Mick Shots: Reacting To These Crazy Times

June fourth, ju twenty, Bill Jones, Mickey Spagnola, Everson Walls, and Big News coming down this morning because things are starting to open up at the start in Frisco. Of course, it's been opened up a little for a little while now, but coaches can be back in the building starting tomorrow. And I would think Mickey's Bagnola that Mike McCarthy, if he's not already in Frisco, Texas, he is on a

jet plane headed back here from Green Bay. And we don't have Mickey just yet, So Everson, I would say, Mike McCarthy is on a jet plane headed to Frisco, Texas as we saw. Well, it's about time, man. I'm just like you. Bill I'm ready for the season to start.

I'm ready for the offseason to really get get going right now, and right now with the Cowboys and the NFL trying to figure out how the season is going to get started this year, all kind of decisions are going to be made, and I think they're gonna be changing even up until the last minute of some of these events, because everything just seems to be changing all

over the place in every sport. So I think there a lot of the sports are learning from each other and they're taking queues from each other, trying to figure out the best way to go through with a safe ball game and still be socially conscious. I guess yep, it'd be nice to get this offseason started for a change. Here. It's been a long wait to get to this point. And of course, the other news that came down earlier in the week is the fact that Cowboys will not

have training camp in Oxnard, California. We'll see when training camp start, but ever since we would be right now, precisely forty eight days away from the start of training camp, assuming there is a Hall of Fame game, and so we're inching ever so close, and it's going to be very interesting over the course of the next days, if not weeks, what decisions are made as far as when this thing is getting started for sure, Well, if nothing else,

you talk about training camp, that's gonna be a big change. I kind of wish I could have gone through that training camp. I never enjoyed leaving to go to Thousand Oaks. I never enjoyed leaving the city to go out to the rural areas and be on lockdown. I think this is gonna be a welcome change to me for the entire NFL. Let's just be real. This thing started, my god,

forty fifty years ago. Sixty years ago, Vince Lombardi thought it'd be a good idea to take his team away from the family where they can really concentrate on being champions. And because they had the blueprint with all this with a couple of Super Bowls early on, everyone followed suit, and so to me, I think it's a good change to get back to me, it's unnecessary to travel. It really is being at home I think is more comfortable than being on the road and being away from your family.

I would rather they do it like this all the time. To tell the truth and I'm pretty sure I'm in the minority in that regard. It would be interesting if changes are made in the future as far as the way the off season is conducted, depending or as a result of what's happened here over the last few a few months, and also as we go forward and what the schedule is going to be as far as this offseason program. Whenever the facilities are opened up for the players.

It might not be until training camp before the players are allowed in there, but it may turn out to be a better schedule to have more time maybe on campus at their practice facilities in July before training camp starts,

less time on campus earlier in the off season. We'll just see how it progresses and see what they gather from this, what trainspires over the next month or so, to see what happens, you know, I have to say, I'm always surprised that the NFL owners are willing to spend more money and go out to a training camp and get prepared for the preseason, then staying home and putting that money in their pockets. I always thought it was kind of an unnecessary expense and unnecessary process in

regards to going to training camp. So I'm very surprised about it. If you recall, the cowboys were in Thousand Oaks first, and then when Jimmy and Jerry came they went to Austin, and they went Austin for a few years, and for some reason they decided to go back out to California and ended up being in ox Nord. So they obviously have some type of connection in the southern

California area. But as far as I'm concerned, it's still money that could be spent somewhere else, as opposed to going all the way out to the West Coast, as opposed to staying here in your own facility, which is an amazing facility. To me, It's made for trainee camp to be here. They can go stay in the hotel which is right next to the Star, and do it

in that manner. I'm just very surprised that they're willing to steal with I'm sure with much disregard, they wanted to still go out to Thousand go out to oxenhow as opposed to staying at home, And I still don't understand that. Tell you what, We're going to clear up a couple of technical glitches that we have on Ari end right now, how about we taking a little break here. Maybe we'll established contact with Mickey and we got much to get to as mix shots continues in just a moment.

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In the meantime, it's Everson, Walls and meat. I'm sorry, buddies. Yeah, no, no, you're You're just fine, evers as we talk about what's going on, and the big story around the league right now is the fact that coaches can go back into their facilities starting tomorrow. The commissioner sent a memo to the teams this morning and opening the door for the

coaches the coaching staff to be there. There's still a limit the number of people who can be in the practice facility, which numbers at one hundred and so it'll be interesting to see how the Cowboys handled that. But I would imagine, of course, the coaches Everson had been working. You know, they're established in their home offices doing everything

right now. Unless they had some lead time on this, they're probably comfortable where they are right now, and they may not be back in the office exactly tomorrow, but the doors are at least open. They can be in the office tomorrow. Can you imagine what it's been like though for them and for the players throughout this the last six to eight weeks, you know, the Cowboys were able to start communicating with their players back on I believe it was April sixth, since they had a new

coaching staff. So we're right that basically the two month mark of these zoom meetings or the WebEx meetings or whatever they're using to communicate with the players. And it's got to be just a strange thing trying to learn on the fly like this. Yeah, I have to give these guys a lot of credit in trying to push through. This has got to be one of the more unusual

moments in sports history, no doubt about it. The good thing about the Cowboys is, first of all, they've got an owner that spares no expiss in regards to their comfort zone. So if you're gonna be confined to a facility, the Star is an amazing place to be confined. It's beautiful out there that the development out there is. It's still going strong, even though there's no one in the

facility but them. You can't help but think about those that are in crappy facilities around the NFL, how they're feeling about being locked down, so to speak, in a particular facility. Cowboys don't have that problem. I've been there to the Star of an office at the start. It's an amazing place, very comfortable and airy. You gotta love it. If you're gonna be locked down somewhere, that's the place

to be. You know. You're alluded to the fact that the Cowboys, of course early on when after Jerry Jones bought the team. Of course, the first year they had training camp in Thousand Oaks in nineteen eighty nine, and then they moved it to Austin starting in nineteen ninety. Jimmy loved the heat of Austin. Uh And of course after Jimmy left, Barry Switzer the coach, and they were

still in Austin. Then they moved to Wichita Falls and finally wound up in Oxnard, and then back and forth Oxnard in San Antonio over the last twenty years and really the last ten years in Oxnard. But when you talk about the Star, I mean the biggest thing about training camp in Texas is the heat, obviously, and it was just it was horribly hot and humid. In Austin, it was maybe it was a dry heat in Wichita Falls, but it was hell that what you call it is

that what you called wiche Falls all did hell? Bill, I'm well, there's a there's a bike race in late August in Wichita Falls called the Hotter in Hell one hundred. So it wasn't just hell. It was hotter than hell in which let me let me say this. I was working with another TV station and I was a reporter in Thousand Oaks, I'm sorry, in Wichita Falls, and I drove up and I brought my bike with me, so I would go from the hotel to the site, to the practice site or my tent speed and it is

hotter than hell out there. Okay, that's for real. I don't care what time of day it was. So let's think about this. You go from Dallas heat to Wichita Falls heat. Okay. If the facilities weren't all that great, there was nothing spectacular about it. I don't understand that move alone. I would have rather stayed home in regards to that, and not even worried about going to Wichita Falls, which I thought was just such a meaningless training camp site.

You could have stayed home and suffered in nothing. Just you could have suffered enough from the heat that they had in Dallas that year as opposed to going to Whichta falls. But you know, heat is heat, and you're only driving. I think it was about a two two plus I will drive and you know you still feel the same way. So I just thought that was just so unnecessary. You know, we're having difficulty establishing a contact

with Mickey. But if Mickey were on here right now, and maybe this is the real reason Mickey's not here right now, I think he is in mourning the fact that he's not able to go out to Oxnard, California for three weeks. You know, there is there's some great value going out to the great temperatures in august in at late July and August in Oxendard in California, and you were out in Thousand Oaks. It's a little warmer in Thousand Oaks than what it is in Oxnard in

the summertime, but not much. And especially in your time there in Thousand Oaks, there was not much to do there. But even in Oxnard, the facility there at the residence end,

it's secluded. Uh, there's there's really very little chance that the players can get out, of course, with even on their off days, you know they can they can go with a with a v they can go places or uber someplace, but really at the Star in Frisco, they've got everything that they need to have either an indoor training camp, which they have done after they've come back from Oxnard the last couple of weeks of camp the last few years, but also they can go outdoors if

they want to. They got a grass field and a turf field there. But if they want to go with two grass fields, as I think Mickey pointed out on his mix Shots column this week on Dallas Cowboys dot Com, they could go right up the tollway to Frisco. There are some great soccer fields there that FC Dallas has. They got all the grass fields that they want up there. If they want to go out on the grass for

a morning practice or whatever. And let's be real, they have access to that, Bill, They do have access to that. I'm sure Frisco will be willing to give Jerry and the Cowboys. They will afford them any pleasure that they want. That's funny that you brought up a thousand oaks and Oxnard. Let's be real, Bill, anything that's close to Los Angeles, we're gonna get there, all right. We're gonna find it as plays as players, we're gonna find the way to Frisco.

I tell the story all the time, players sneaking out of the dorm in thousand those California, and we felt like wiley coyote, tiptoeing from bush to bush, trying to find cover to make sure that we weren't busted as we as we went out to our cars that were placed strategically off campus, and all of a sudden, you know, we're the Magic Johnson Party. Okay, so now we're gonna

find our way to to wherever the fun is. So as much as you like us being out in California, great weather, to me, that's what the temptation is, to bid to find a way to leave, and always worried about how we're gonna sneak out this particular weekend or whatever. And when you're at home and at the Star, you don't really have to worry about that. I think I think it's easier to monitor players in Dallas at the Star as opposed to trying to keep up with us as we sneak out and go to different spots in

the LA area. Trust me, well, and even when when you compare back in the nineties when they were going to either Austin or Wichita Falls. There's a heck of all more to do to find in Austin, Texas than there is in't Wichita Falls. There's no doubt now Wichita Falls, that was a true prison. That was Antrue prison training camp right there. That that went even further back than than the Vince Lombardy training camps. To me, the facilities

were pretty tough. Although it was plentiful for the Cowboys, it wasn't the most ideal picturesque, picturesque a site as well. All right, it's time for our normal break here on mix shots. So let's go ahead and take our normal break and we will come back with more of mix shots. I'm Jay Novachik, former tight end for the Dallas Cowboys back in the day. I was a guy who always got the tough yards, and that's why I run with

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down based on GWS one course. September twenty nineteen. Back back to Mick Shuts shots continues here and look you there, we got Mickey spag Millow joining his own show. Now I'm ready to shoot mill I'm thinking, I'm thinking you're ready to get back to the Star in Frisco enough of this home office stuff. Well yeah, and you mentioned maybe I didn't join the show because I was bemoaning the fact we're not going to Bard for training camp. So that's why I've got my last year training camp

shirt right. Well, why it's an ode to the West coast and we're not going back there. And I am saying we're not going back there, But I certainly understand the reasons why no sense having any unnecessary travel uh these days, and I think the Cowboys have a better opportunity to control the environment themselves at the Star than trying to go on the road and control it somewhere else. I thought you were wearing that shirt, SPACs because it was the only one you had downstairs in your basement.

This is classy from last year, by the way, so we wore him when we went to the Why you know the other thing about you know, you guys were talking about upside downside of braining camp at the Star. The downside is you only have one grass field, and if you're going to practice on the grass field, you're probably gonna have to do it in the horn. Although I did hear that Mike McCarthy didn't want to flip

the practice schedule. He likes having the big practice in Padge in the morning and the walkthrough afterwards in the afternoon, opposite of what the Cowboys have been doing. So if that's the case, you know they can get on one grass field. Obviously they have the artificial turf. The Cowboys used to practice that way on Wednesdays and then moved inside on Thursday and Friday during the regular seasons, so you don't have you know, two grass fields to work

on it. But technically they may not even be able to use FC Dallas because the membo from the league boys they can practice at their own facility, right Lundering.

I'm wondering if you do everything and just say okay, but we're just going to use the the practice soccer fields over there, and you would and you would think that there are probably teams around the league that, yeah, instead of using their practice facility, there might be a high school down the street or something where they use their practice fields instead, something like that, or a or a college or something when you can you use the

different practics field. I know we used Lows. We used Lows Field over there in Addison, and that was we never went inside the facility. We went straight from the bus to the field. So I really can't see that being a major issue in regards of regulations from the NFL.

And along those lines, the Cowboys used to do that when they were at Valley Ranch and they would go over to the Carrollton High School football stadium and had OTAs and so forth over there, so they as far as OTAs go when the fields were too muddy, rain or whatever, they went over to I think at Standridge Stadium and practice and think about this a couple of years at least one for sure in San Antonio, I believe when Bill wanted to get out and remember remember

the year and they tried to grow grass in the parking lot. Lasted for about ten minutes. As soon it was beautiful, right until two hundred and fifty pound guys got on the field. That grass ripped right up and they emmett went down and it was like that's it ground over. So they ended up getting bust over to a junior high field that was close to the Alamodome. It was about ten minutes away, and they would hold practices when they wanted to get out indoors because indoors

in that great Alamo Dome, oh God had got depressing. Uh, And you got to wonder who came up with that idea, who was paid to Then somebody convinced them that we can grow a grass field in the parking lot. He grew us as field, but you can't play on that grids. It was pretty by the way, and so yeah, you know, you got spoiled being uh you know, you were talking about being in thousand oaks and uh, you know, my

my funny story. And I know you guys all whenever you were talking about you know how you were sequestered there and you guys tried to get out all the time. Well, if you think about it, that media dorm was right across from where the guard gate was when you pulled in, right right past Tom's dormitory, and so we could see who was coming and who was going. Right. Well, at night, there was a patio behind our dorm and it opened up to a field, and on the left of us

was the women's softball field. And to the right, a ways away, probably about now fifty to one hundred yards, there was another dormitory with a parking lot. And we'd sit out there at night when we get done working and drinking a beer on a patio and it's pitch dark right and the moon's out, and all of a sudden we could see somebody running from where the softball field was to a waiting car. So the car would

flash its life like hey, I'm ready. That some guy would go under the cross to get out to escape, and we sitting there going hey hey, we start screaming at him. The guys start running faster, the door would open, they would dive in and then take off so they could escape trading camp without past the garden date. That that was our blueprints bags. Okay, that's our the fault. We indoctrinated guys like Michael Irvin and all the younger guys were talking the game. So did you blame anyone?

Blame us? Okay, I'll fall the sword the other. The other funny thing I used to see is when somebody had pulled in the garden date and one of the guys would come out right, he would come out with his Bible like he's going to Bible study, but he also had his toiletry. Kid, all those the days fast we were all politically in correct. Oh, how did we survive? Yeah, he knew he could get into the coach Landry's good

graces if he carries his Bible around. Hey, But then we should have monitored the practice habits after those nights out to just see how effective we were ineffective. I'm sure we were more ineffective than affective. Well you remember that that that that summer in Austin, Jimmy gave the guys a a night out and said, okay, no curfew, just feedback. We got a morning practice while they went out and tore it up right, and Jimmy found out about it right, so the next morning he practiced them

till their tongues hang out. It was the hardest practice I ever seen. Guys were shooting on the sideline and got done. It's like, okay, Uh, anybody else the night off tonight, we'll see that. That to me, that should prove that you shouldn't have just a one night to go out and just tear up to town. You should give us scheduled nights that would tear up to town. That way will be more accustomed to. Uh, that's the

late yourself, right. Well, then that's why the CBA is originalized it is now the CBA gives them scheduled nights off. You know, no, absolutely, and you know, and I mean, look, we've all had to be flexible. So you know, they'll they'll make it work. And the unfortunate thing is, though, if they're practicing outdoors at the Star, there's no room. Heck, there's hardly any room for the media to be there at the same time, let alone there wouldn't be any

fans for sure. You would have to practice indoors, and I don't even know if they would let fans in it these days to watch practice. So that's a discussion for you know, down the road. Imagine if they're going to do it, it would probably be limited, limited amount of fans in the stand. So I can see that coming, just like they're trying to do it at some ball games or trying to do it at some events. I could see them being socially distant in the inside facility

at the start. I could see that being a very realistic thing. Well, we have not heard from Dak Prescott through virtually the entire offseason. We were doing some research over at CBS eleven trying to figure out when was the last time we saw an interview from Dak even and I think it was maybe during Super Bowl week. Maybe he stalked since then, but for sure since the pandemic began on March eleventh, so nearly two months there.

But he made a statement in a very big way yesterday with a post on Instagram about what's going on in our country right now as very well as stated not only a statement with his words, but with his actions too, as he's pledging one million dollars to the cause and police training and uh to try to eliminate systemic racism in our country, and just a beautiful move by Dak Prescott yesterday. I thought, guys, it was well thought out. And as I towed Everson when my stuff

was working, we could speak the show start. I thought it was a very balanced response. Uh. You know, he talked about supporting the protesters, supporting the cause, but also supporting the police too. And you know, this has not been an easy off season for him, the fact that his brother passed away at thirty two years old. You know it was during the off season. Was it March February? I think it was twenty four Yeah, not in the draft, not that long ago, so uh, and then you know,

having to handle the negotiations for a new contract. But you know, obviously he probably needed to say something, and I thought it was I thought it was well said about kind of including everybody in the message, not just coming out against the police or anything like that. So yeah, I thought he did a nice job of being very inclusive in his comments. I read the comments and I'm

so glad he came out. I was just talking yesterday and I was wondering when he was going to make a statement because you know, this is something that you really just can't ignore. You can't just say, well, we're going to just be guys that throw the ball and just bounce the ball and shut up. And we've heard that before, and I think that's how we got into this position to where we try and separate ourselves even

though yes, we are all human beings. But if you're African American, then there are times, especially these days, when you can't ignore what's been going on for obviously centuries, but but now we're just talking decades in regards to police reform, and really when you talk about systemic racism, you can you can give money to the police station, to the to the police officers, and hopefully they do well with those funds. But some of these things are

just common sense. I don't think you have to change the way you your practices in regards to how you arrest people and how you subdue people, as long as you have some type of common sense about it. You know, what we saw in Minneapolis was a totally different thing that has nothing to do with procedure, not at all. That just had to do with hatred. And when you see that being repeated over and over again, and it happens to young black men, then yeah, you could say, yes,

all lives do matter, It's no doubt about it. All lives matter. But when you see that it's happening to a particular group of people, then you have to we have to single ourselves out and say yes, black lives matter, because it doesn't seem to matter in regards a law enforcement not the entire law enforcement, but there is a problem within law enforcement to where amongst all of those good cops, all those good cops are trying to do their job, those bad apples are the ones that are

giving you a bad reputation. So it was just good to see Dad come out and say something because it needs to be said. And also the Dallas Cowboys need to say something as well. If you're talking about being America's team and you want to use that moniker to spread joy or whatever you want to spread all over the world, and this is all over the world. If you're going to be America's team, then you need to

say something. I think as an organization we can't sit back as Dallas Cowboys and just not say anything as an organization. So I'm glad Dak put the illness on the cowboys to say something. I think Jerry Jones needs to be next, you know, and the other thing and build up I thought with Dak donating the one million dollars, and part of that was for and this addresses what

Everson said, it was for upgraded police training. And I think that's key, right because as he said, you know, he had one guy, one guy, and I know the other three stood there and didn't inter se, but one guy turned the whole world upside down by what he did. So not only does the training have to improve, but to me, the vetting has to improve. He can be a policeman, right, And we can start first by paying

them more. And I think if you pay them more than you get the higher quality people to be able to react to things that are under pressure. And believe you know it's pressure. To look at those guys that were trying to control the violent protesters over the week. That's a lot of pressure now, and what you got to do? You know they call in the National Guard. Well sometimes the National Guards got eighteen to twenty year old people in it, right, yes, and you're asking them

to have a lot of composure. But I think the vetting and the training is what has to improve to be able to get away from some of these things that we continue to see. And as Everson Villain, you know, we know we've lived a long time and this all

has been going on for a long time. I was talking earlier about before we came on, and I just think it needs to be said that athletes have the right and sometimes the obligation to speak out is just the way it is the reason that we're in this position hours because everyone tries to stay in their lane

because you're an athlete. You can't speak out on something that's going on to people that look like ear So that's been going on for decades and decades, So let's let's get out of this mode of athletes just be athletes. That's not true. You've got owners that have contributed to particular campaigns, so that lets you know what their mindset

might be in regards to how they are politically. So as an athlete that's an individual citizen, you have that right as well to show where your duties are, and your duties should be for fairness for anyone that's confronted with police and who might be abused by police. You can criticize the police department and still love that police department. You can criticize America and still love America. And I

think that's where we've lost this connection. We love America, but we want America to be better, don't you know? You can't You can do both. You can criticize it but still be proud of you know. And I love what what Dak said about his brother Jays, who he described as his idol, and that they've both had a shared mission in life is to find a bigger purpose.

And I think it's a good message for all of us uh in these times, is to find a bigger purpose in our own lives as far as loving one another and um, and that's it took what it all boils down to, you know, and h M. So hopefully all of us can learn from what's from what's going what's happening right now, Bill and Bill. That almost echoed what I heard former President Barack Obama say about being able to step up and figure out your purpose and what you need to do, uh to basically help things out.

And I thought that's where Dak would what he would right on points. Maybe he wasn't the first to speak. But when he spoke, uh, he spoke. Well, that's the thing. By the way, I wanted to add this, So he doubt donated a million dollars because he assuming he's gonna get a fifty million dollars bonus when he signs that long term deal, sign that that long term deals get happen. Let's be let's be real. That was not cowboy money

that month. Dost with money expects Let's be real, and it was taking the preemptive strike there knowing that that money's coming down the road. It was a pledge. So we're not we're not sure to win that. Yeah, let's see how the next month plays out. Come on, don't be like that man back from his dead where it is good. I'm not doubting that we're getting closer and closer to that July fifteenth deadline. Looks today it's at the four. Yes, so we got twenty seven and fifteen

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like you and say it might start on time. Now the question is when will it start for the Cowboys and the Steelers. Because one thing dawned on me is when they're talking about unnecessary travel for teams, is it necessary to play the Hall of Fame game, and I think that has to be talked about. I saw where Baker, the head of the Hall of Fame, said, We've got five different contingencies, and it made me go back to twenty eleven. Remember when there basically was a shotgun start

to training camp. That year on Monday they ratified the CBA. On Wednesday, we were heading the training camp. And that year they canceled the Hall of Fame game. They had the induction, but they canceled the Hall of Fame game. So, you know, with no if and I'm going to assume there's probably no off season, right, and if there is, it's conditioning, weight training, and conditioning in their own Yeah, do you have to play five preseason games? Uh? If? And will they even if you play the game? You

know that game sold out? I read where in ten minutes they sold out twenty thousand, right, the Cowboys, Steelers? Right? Uh? And so are they going to let people in the watch to get it? Because if they're not letting people in the watch, the game is there? Is it just TV? So I think that's one of the things that probably have to be discussed between the NFL, the NFLPA, and the Hall of Fame well, and the interesting thing on it. Thing on it is okay, and I think it's probably

contingent as much as anything. Are they going to have the Hall of Fame induction ceremony as scheduled that week? Okay? I saw one. I saw one alternative was to basically push the induction back to when they're going to do the guys that were inducted, you know, because one hundred year anniversary group and September. Yeah, in September, midway through that September, and they could do that. So the interesting

to see what they decide. And so what the decision there is affects the Cowboys because they were supposed to be able to start with like July twenty second or at least report to training camp right around there, and they would be ahead of the rest of the teams

because they're going to play that early preseason game. Now will that still be the case, And that's one reason the Cowboys wanted to play that game before all this started with the pandemic, because they were going to get an extra game with a new coaching staff and a longer training camp to help the new coaching staff. And yeah, we've seem to forgot that this is the new coaching staff.

And if we thought they were kind of behind the eight ball along with the other four teams with new coaches, now they're really behind because you know, Mike McCarthy still hasn't been able to address a ninety man roster. I was I was thinking as I was watching these last few days, how this these protests are going to affect

uh the outbreak itself. Uh, if it will have some type of us uh spike in cases, and if that will affect the owner's way of thinking in regards to having this game, in regards to how you prepare for this game. And then you start thinking about the Hall of Fame induction as well. Uh could that be virtual?

You know? Could they do it like as they did in the draft, just you know, go to each person's home, be prepared for them to make a speech and the presentation, uh, and do it virtually a virtual Hall of Fame induction ceremony, just like you had a virtual NFL draft. To me, they can go to it. I'm sure, Eddie Guy said, Texas Motor Speedway is already put a proposal, man, where where the inductees can be there on the racetrack and people can drive in and watch it on the big Street.

The inductees will drive by in the all cars. That's what they do. You go right, keep it all out indoors. You know. I think the thing that probably they probably have to take in consideration is, you know that Pro Football Hall of Fame is basically subsidized by that week the money they make, the participation from fans. And it's not just the induction and it's the game, it's the parade, Uh, it's the Almo Jacket presentation. Uh, it's the breakfast lunch

the next day. Uh. People spend a lot of money and that money goes towards supporting that Pro Football Hall of Fame. So you got under consideration they have, they are on the going and eight hundred million dollars renovation in my rights bags absolutely they're making a renovation is Uh. They have HBCU section there that I think is going to be around ten thousand square feet, so that's also part of the part of the funding is going to go there as well. So yeah, it's it's still very important.

They've got some things going on to what they want to change the whole culture around the NFL. Hall of Fame in Canton. So, yeah, you're right, it is pretty important. But I think that's gonna suffer a little bit this year, I truly do, even with the sellout of the Hall of Fame game. Well, Mickey, you wrote about Anthony Dickerson and on mix Shots your column this week. I can't believe I missed this. So one of our average listeners readers on Dallas Cowboys dot com sept me an email

and said, boy, we missed this. You guys sure missed this, And so I clicked on what he sent me and it was about Anthony Dickerson passing away. And I'm reading the story and it was dated in March twenty first. Yeah, and then I kept reading and it was like exposing two months ago. This was a year ago, March thren

twenty first. And Everson, I can't believe that just kind of passed for a guy that you know, he was with the Cowboys five years most of the time, well all the time you were there, right, no doubt he came in. Yeah, Dickerson came in. We just we just called him. We just called him dick like he came in year before we did in eighty one. He came in eighty. Uh. He was a Texas kid. He was one of those very intense practice players. He didn't really talk much doing practice, but off the field, he's a

great guy. Of course, I know his his his widow, and she was the one that had informed us about it, of course over a year ago when it had happened, because we're still close to her in her family. So yeah, it's I was surprised when you sent me the articles bad and because I'm thinking, uh where, I mean, something did I did? I killed dick Off in my sleep? I know you know what what happened. I did I dream it? But no, of course I was aware of it.

He had really fallen on some hard times. His health had failed him, uh at later on in life, like and he was pretty much a you know that uh that tale of of you know, a guy that that had the injuries and then all of a sudden you got the medical condition that comes with that. The medic the medication itself became you know, a little bit too much for him to take, uh, and eventually his his quality of life before he passed on was not good

at all. And so that's pretty much the standard of what you hear from guys that played back in the age UH. And that's why the collective bargain agreements are so important for retired players in regards to taking care of of us as we get a little bit older, because all of us are not in the same position to take care of ourselves. And if I'm not mistaken, Anthony Dickerson when he passed, he was in a care facility. And so that's that's the role of many players that

come to the NFL. We hear about the Hall of Famers and things of that nature. But then there are guys like Anthony Dickerson just came along, played a few years, did the best he could and ended up paying for it in the end. Just one of one of those things. Sad. It was so sad, you know. Comer smu point player also red wad He against Ohio State one year, made thirty two tackles in the game. And you know, I

was undrafted the Cowboys very fast. He was a very fast under under underneaer over for D. D. Lewis on the nickel for a while and then started his last two years UH eighty three eighty four for the Cowboys as a matter of fact, and when I mentioned it to some other people, there were big cowboy fans. They remembered his play. Uh at the end of that eighty three game against the Saints, when it may be the only game that's ever been won on a safety right

with one fifty the game. Oh my god, even Randy White was jumping up and down like a little girl. You were, you were, I think it behind like or a head twenty six ten and turned the ball over the second half like six times or so. Uh. It missed the next right, absolutely, and so he ended up winning twenty one twenty. And the thing I saw about the story was they asked Tom Landry did he think his team was motivated, and he goes, well, obviously not. I hope not, because if we were, we were really

a bad feel because the Saints way bad team. So yes, what Tom said was as accurates can be, we were not ready for that game. And then diarny of it.

The next year when you played the Saints that Sunday night game after the presidential debates, it was another sack that Jim Jeffcote recovered the ball in the end zone I believe tied the game, and then you ended up winning it in a late field goal after trailing that game like twenty six to ten, I think it was, and made this miraculous comeback, which was a funny story because I think you guys maybe at that point were

four and three. Things weren't going well. And that morning on the Sunday paper rangon Galloway and the Dallas Morning News basically said the Cowboys are dead, you know, and this is a must win. So they were trailing Trailey

Trailey and everybody, we're on deadline. We're past deadline because of the game started late because of the presidential debates, right, so when they tied the game up, that game went into overtime, and everybody started banging on the desks, right because I had to basically story starting right and used to sit in the press pots and he git right

behind where we sat in the front row. The guys in the Dallas Times Herald and text got up kind of looked over and so everybody pissed off, and he in his gruff voice, he goes, hey, Randy, you look dead. You know what. That little matchup between text Ram and Randy Galloway was the best. Randy Galloway, I'll call him the eternal pessimist, right, But that's what I liked about. He was my radio. He was my radio pot in for a while in nineteen eighty nine when Jimmy and

Jerry first got there. So he didn't he uh, he always gassed me up. Anytime Jimmy saying something bad about me, Randy called me before the show. Hey man, Jimmy said this. Jimmy said that, what are you thinking? So I was like, Okay, we're gonna get them. So we I mean we were one or fifteen that year, so it wasn't like we were looking forward to going to the playoffs. So Randy was feasting on that all seasons long, and I was right there for it. Uh as his as his radio apartment.

I know, I know you guys, you know getting along with Tex wasn't wasn't great all the time, But for us, it was time time entertaining as could be for us. I'll tell you that the stuff he used to say in the press boxes he puts out the officials today. Could you imagine an official of a team sitting up there in front of the entire media and calling the guy you so me and God? He was entertaining. He

was I'm saying you guys were complicit facts. You guys should have dropped a dime on him a long time ago. You know what, your conversation about text is very timely because if you see just a few days ago it was the it would have been his one hundredth birthday text. Really yeah, yeah, that long many and Bill, I know we're running our time. But one of the kind of a current note for the cowboys, they'll they're expected to do this, and so if they do it today, they're

expected to finally turn in the retirement papers. For Tata's Frederick, it'll affect a salary cap. It's almost like a salary cap stimulus because they'll get back his seven million dollars base salary. Now he'll count almost five million dead money this year and another six million next year. But they wait until after June first to turn in the retirement papers so they could spread out the dead money, which was over eleven million dollars. But they'll now that they

were supposed to do it today. I mean, there's no deadline anymore, you were. Whenever they do it, his base salary is seven million dollars will go back into the cap and that'll just about cover what their rookie pool is for salaries this year. I think the pool is seven point three million, so they'll be able. It was almost like you had a savings account there and now you tapped into it to be able to use it.

So the way we're running out a salary cap money too, or that just frees up enough money to go ahead and make that Jamal Adams trade. I don't think that covers a first in the third round kick like the way you fig I likely wig to renegotiate a contract for somebody that once about fourteen million in a year. Oh okay, all right, okay, we good good thinking though, Okay, well Mickey only gets half his pay this week is like the NBA players, right or MLB? Right, we just

we just we just tapped in. We just tapped into spags. Wee can we pay? So we get to right here you go? All right, So we're gonna do this again next Thursday. Right, Well, we're gonna try and work it out. Otherwise we're just going WebEx just the way, all right, And that does it for mixed shots for this weekend. We will see you again next Thursday at eleven am on June eleven, moving on. Yeah, this has been a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club.