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Next guy up at quarterback? The crew sifts through the next starting quarterback for the Cowboys this season after head coach Mike McCarthy said the team’s fourth starter this year will come down to either Cooper Rush or Garrett Gilbert. Also, Hunter the Punter.

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The following. He's a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. This is Mick Shot screaming live on Dallas Cowboys dot Com and the official Dallas Cowboys apt Now here are Bill Jones, Everson Walls, and Nicky Spagnola. Well here it is one thirty on Wednesday afternoon, and it's time for another edition of Mick Shots. Bill Jones along with Mickey Spagnola inside the SWBC Mortgage studios here at Ford Center at the Star in Frisco.

And Mickey are all decked out with Cowboy a Cowboys star. Yes, absolutely, all right, get in the swing of things. Here you go. And we've got Everson Walls inside his very own s WBC Mortgage student videos at the Everson Walls estate and he's getting all set up there. It appears, and Everson this morning, and look very much, I'm wearing some of mixed shot stuff. Baby. Hey, I had something on yesterday. I had something on yesterday. Spags brought it to me.

I think it was out of his own personal closet because it was a bit tight. Uh And and yesterday it was a bit chilly in here, and you could kind of see it. So I had to wear something bigger because I was being exposed because it was too cold to name. It was almost see through. That was the bag that had your name on it, and you must have put large on there. And I said, oh, this is not gonna fit him. I should just keep it. But I did the right thing, gave him the bag

to my teammate, even though it didn't. My wife filled that out. She likes me in tight stuff. My wife in tight stuff. Well, as we closed out yesterday's show, I made the comment that maybe by one thirty on Wednesday afternoon, we would know who would be starting at quarterback for the Dallas Cowboys. I also say maybe we

would know who would be president. I think I agreed with you on both of those things, and I had a feeling it might be the quarterback, but were You're not going to know at least until tomorrow, and maybe not till maybe not until day, until Sunday afternoon. Maybe maybe Hey, And as far as the presidency is concerned, I just heard the purge horn outside, so I'm a little nervous about what the heck is going on. Well, we'll leave back to other talk shows, okay, and So

let's talk about the Cowboy quarterback quandary. Or is it a quandary or is it a quagmire that they are in at quarterback? Well, it's a it's a decision they have to make. And as I said, just taped something in the ever changing world of the Dallas Cowboys. Now they've got to decide. As Mike McCarthy said today, between Cooper Rush and Garrett Gilbert as their starting quarterbacks, it sounds like that they're gonna go with the guys that have been in the league longer, but not necessarily have

the most snaps of experience in the NFL. And I did myself, you guys a little research here, all right, and uh and you've mentioned what the guys have done passing the ball, how many games they've regular season? So regular season. Cooper Rush, who the Cowboys signed last week, cleared COVID protocol uh and then was eligible to practice

for the first time today. He'd been with the Cowboys for three years twenty seventeen, eighteen nineteen, and went through the virtual workout or if you call him workouts, the virtual meetings uh. And he was released after the Cowboys signed Andy Dalton. So the first week in May, he was released. The Giants ended up picking him up. But in three years with the Cowboys, Rush played appeared in

five games, but only through three passes completed one. But I figured out he had twenty six snaps in all his appearances, which means ever since he was basically mop up duty at the end of the games. And then I thought you were gonna give me a I thought you're gonna give me a passer rating on that. Now, No, no, no, not, we stopped short of that. Uh. And then on Garrett Gilbert, you know he's he spent. He's played six games in the NFL, five with Cleveland, uh and uh. He had

a game appearance with Carolina. With Carolina he completed two three passes for forty yards in thirteen snaps, and then with Cleveland he ended up with eight more snaps. So his NFL career is twenty one snaps total, while Denucci in a game and a quarter in a little bit more, ended up with ninety one snaps and completed twenty one to forty four one eighty. So, but Mike said he was going to go with the guys that had the majority of the experience in the NFL, and he was

including time spent in preseason games. Uh, those guys have been you know, since they've been in the league several years. They were able to play in preseason games. So he said, both of them are smart, and he would decide who looked like they could manage the game the best. Cooper

Rush just got here. But he has familiarity with Kellen Moore, been around him Bill and actually you know, and even in their last year and even with this new coaching staff, at least through the virtual offseason, they would have been about a month's time that he would have been taken part in that. Yeah, And they basically kept it a secret today because when the quarterbacks came in from what they call quarterback school, they warm up on their own

away from the team. They had practice indoors today. I guess Mike wanted to make sure that he kept it a secret as long as possible. When the quarterback showed up to join the team, that's when the media was released. So expect that the rest of the week there if you would also expect that tomorrow because that's the padded practice and I think between today and the practice tomorrow will determine who's the starter because they don't practice on Friday.

They do on Saturday, and I would imagine you want your starting quarterback to work Saturday when there's no access to the practice, by the way, and I will add that to me, go ahead, go ahead. Ever since I was gonna say Bill, thank you to me, this sounds like, I don't know. It sounds like McCarthy may have deferred to Kellen Moore in this situation heavily, because when you look at you know, of course, what Denuci did in the game, it was fairly good. I mean, considering the

especially the play calls. He was up against the offensive line decimated with injuries his first start, I have to say that they I thought, except for those in the rounds and untimely play calls, I thought we did a good job as far as Denut was concerned. I think Keller Moore feels more comfortable with Cooper Rush and Gary Gilbert because he's had more time. He alone has had more time with him. He feels comfortable with Cooper. Cooper's

been there since seventeen. Even though he was cut, he still has a better relationship with Kellen Moore than de Nucci does. And I guess Gary Gilbert has some type of relationship as well. I'm kind of surprised at this move. Guys, I don't know about you. I get it you want to go with guys who are may be old or have more experience, but what kind of experience preseason experience. You know, you got one guy with one one completion, nothing with two. Denucci has twenty one. Like I said, decent,

decent performance. I think this is all Kellen Moore and his comfort zone more than it is McCarthy's. I think that that McCarthy is not out on Ben de Nucci. I think that McCarthy just believes Denucci isn't ready for it yet and and so I think that's why he wants to go with someone who's at least been in the league longer, even if they haven't had more snaps

technically than Denucci. And I think one of the things that McCarthy is very concerned about his ball security, as he should be, and when Denucci cops it up a couple of times, when he says, it's one thing taking a sack when you're not expecting, it's another thing coughing the football up, and that has been I mean, I think I get the feeling McCarthy's at a breaking point on that as far as he's never been around a team that has not held on to the football like

like this one has. And so I think he saw enough of Denucci from that standpoint. Just if he's going to get sacked against a team, and you know he is against a team like Pittsburgh, I just he just doesn't have confidence that'll be able to hold on to the football. I think that factor in. Let's see, there was two fumbles this pass game, and then when he came in for that quetry and a half, there was a was it two more yep or at least one three sacks and may have lost the ball on a

couple of my camera so I think. And then the other thing McCarthy pointed out that his concern was was basically managing the cadence on the line of scrimmage, and they had a couple uh off off scheduled snaps. I think there was one that everybody moved except Beardish and it sounded like he was putting that on the quarterback. So they had a couple uh snap management problems that he kind of put on the quarterback. I think, so,

uh yeah, We'll see how it works out. But all I know is my man Dunuch got ninety one snaps in the National Football League, and that's more than these two guys combined in games that actually counted souvenir preseason games. Probably didn't get that many in preseason either, right, unless unless they got ahold. You remember Cooper Rush though in a preseason Yeah, and in fact, and I don't have his preseason stats at handy, but it was it his

second year in the preseason. He really showed some promise in preseason games, and you know, it was kind of how he won the job. Yeah, he was competing with Kellen Moore. Yeah, for a backup quarterback position. And in fact, I looked up I memory didn't serve me, right, although I broadcast these games, I was the only one page attention because I was broadcasting you, um, let's say, against

the Raiders in the preseason. At one point he was twelve out a thirteen four, one hundred and fifteen yards and two touchdowns in a comeback win over the Raiders. Had a total of thirty eight completions in fifty one attempts for three hundred ninety eight yards and six touchdowns with no interceptions in the preseason that year. So I mean that's yeah, that was that was a tough Raider. That was a tough Raiders second half team in the preseason. Yeah. Yeah.

You compare those guys to this the Steelers. Traine of Hell coming in here from the Pittsburgh Steelers, and we'll compare and see how that goes. Yeah, but even from a physical maturity standpoint, you know, you can just look could have been to Nucci and see he's a twenty three year old rookie who hasn't filled out really, you know, he as compared to a twenty six or twenty seven year old like Rush would be, or Garrett Gilbert's in

his late twenties. Now, shoot he's he may be thirty years old now and so and just the fact you're being around the league and being in quarterback rooms for a little while, I think gives him a little bit of an advantage. As I said after last week's see, I thought I agree with you, Everson. I actually thought Denucci played great considering the fact that he had he was a seventh round draft pick out of James Madison

who had no practices in the off season. On the field, and he had virtually no practices himself during training camp because they were trying to get the first team ready. They were worried about the third team and no preseason games. And he literally had three practices last week with the first team. And so considering all that I thought he did, he had a tremendous job in the game. But now, and see to me, if you start going back to you know, Garrett Gilbert, like you say, it's almost thirty

years old. He's had two completions Cooper, you know, twenty six, twenty seven, one completion. Yes, you're playing behind Dak Prescott. And and I think maybe Romo. I'm not sure if he was there with Romo, but I think, you know, I wanted to go with a guy that's already been there. You know, he's already dipped his toe in the water. As Bill Passels always said, he always dipped it. He's

already dipped his toe in the water. I say, the momentum that he built, you know, even though made some mistakes, we lost the game, I get it, but the momentum from a personal level that he had attained, I thought we could build on that. I kind of think, you know, I don't want to say we're taking a step back, but it's definitely at best a lateral step when we're

talking about going forward. In regards to the quarterback, and having said what I just said about Denuccia, I thought he played great considering the fact he only had three NFL practices under his belt, I would myself, I would go with either Cooper Rush or Garrett Gilbert this week because I think he might get killed this week. Well let's just lets you don't want the young man to get hurt. Yeah, that's right. Let's just fill that out there.

Because Pittsburgh comes in as the fifth ranked offense and I mean defense, excuse me, and they've got a front of t J. Watt, Stephan to It and Bud Dupree. Those three guys have eighteen and a half sacks among them, And just put that in perspective with the Cowboys as a team, the Cowboys have seventeen. Those three guys got eighteen and a half sacks. So yeah, they're gonna be coming after and I believe they're ranked first in sacks

Pittsburgh is they got thirty? I think yeah, so, and that's not even including a guy like Cameron Hayward, who's a three time Pro bowler on their defensive line too, doesn't have that many sacks. But I mean it's it's a veteran. Did he get hurt? Did he get hurt last week? We get hurt last Hayward? He played seventy five snaps last week. I haven't heard seeing their injury reporter or anything. I thought I saw him laid out. I thought I saw him laid out in the game.

I could be wrong, all right, So it's a tall assignment. No matter who is playing quarterback for the Dallas Cowboys this week is true. So here's so here here may be the bottom line on all this um In Mike McCarthy or Mike McCarthy Mike Tomlin's conference call, I think someone asked him something to the effect, so, when you don't know who's going to be the starting quarterback for the Cowboys, how how well can you prepare? And Tomlin said,

I'm preparing to stop Ezekiel Elliot. So I think I think that tells you where his priority is and maybe where the Cowboys priority needs to be. I think he and let's face it, Kellen Moore through he went deep into that playbook against Philadelphia last week with the and a lot of that going deep in the playbook was

wildcat stuff with Zeke running the football. But I also think that Tomlin probably looks at that third quarter drive when the Cowboys had seven carries for forty two yards with Zeke and Tony Pollard running behind Zack Martin, and he thinks that they're gonna see a lot of that on Sunday. Yes they will. And the other thing. The other thing I want to point out though, on Cooper Rush. All right, Mickey, why was Cooper Rush cut because they

signed Andy Dalton? That's right now, But if Cooper already drafted, they figured he was the young guy that they were going to groom and if they were going to have a backup quarterback, and they spent the money on Dalton, that Rushed going into what this would have been his fourth restricted free agent money. He was over two million dollars salary, And so that was Had Cooper Rush been a first year, first or second year guy and they had him into New Cheat, they would have kept both

of them here. But it was because Rush is contract. He was he was due to make two point two million or whatever it was. And so once they signed. It was a wash basically, and then he got the experience of Dalton coming in at three million dollars base and you're you're just you cut Cooper Rush. Obviously, he got picked up immediately by the Giants, and he was picked up on waivers and uh. And the other thing I think that's interesting on Cooper Rush is that he

was let go by the Giants. Okay, he went through training camp, was signed to the Giants practice squad when they set the roster, and then he was let go on September twenty nine. So he was out there on the street at the time that Dak got injured. And so I'm surprised that the Cowboys didn't just sign him off the street then to their practice squad, you know,

when Dak got hurt. And in fact, they could have signed him and Garrett Gilbert if they wanted to well, and they had um oh, I'm gonna blank out Clayton. They ended up keeping him as right the fourth guy right in the off season. But I'm saying, but I'm saying, once Dad got hurt in early October, why don't you sign Cooper Rush at that point? Because he had been he was he was not even on the Giants practice squad at that point. So anyway, and he would have

been here at least a week earlier. Uh So there we are at The difference is not the difference. The difference is not between what they are physically in regards to to why they kept them, or even experience or ability. It was all about the set the salary cap. Correct, Is that what you're saying as far as letting him

go in in early May. Yeah, as far as as far as as far as making a decision between Denucci and Cooper Rush, I'm talking about signing, I'm talking about drafting, I'm talking about even what involved as the season went on, because physically, there's not much of a difference between them, right, Because so the decision that they were making when they let Cooper Rush go was not comparing him with Ben Denucci,

because Denucci was a developmental guy. Rush is already in going into his fourth year in the league, and so he is in a different salary scale, and so they were comparing Andy Dalton to Cooper Rush and so for basically two to three million dollars as a backup to Dak Prescott, Well, heck, yeah, we're gonna take Andy Dalton and his experience over Cooper Rush, who hadn't done anything in the lake. All right, So we're just getting started on this edition of Mixed Shots. We got much more

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on from the game the other day. Although Mickey, you got something else you want to spot out about Rush, just give you an idea. Everson his rookie year with the Cowboys in twenty seventeen. In preseason games, okay, Cooper Rush preseason games, he appeared in four games. The the Houston game got canceled. Was that the cane right? Yeah? So they actually played Arizona the start in the Hall of Fame game. So in the first game he was nine of eighteen one hundred and eighty two yards, a touchdown,

and an interception. The next game nine of eleven for one hundred and four yards and a touchdown, the next game eight of nine ninety two yards, two touchdown, and then the final game in preseason he was twelve or thirteen, two touchdowns and one hundred and fifteen yards. So that's what made the impression on Jason Garrett at that time. He was awfully, awfully accurate and made the impression on

us guys too. Watching the preseason, it's like, oh boy, this guy's this guy's not all that bad, and so they decided that, you know, he would he would be on the team that year. I'll continue to look at twenty eighteen and twenty nineteen, but he's got that much experience in preseason games that Denucci doesn't. Now do you know why? And once again, I'm with you on that, and and I'm not trying to start any type of back and forth here, but but the obvious is, you know,

you're looking at preseason games where he played the entire game. Obviously, those games are usually gonna be either in the second half of a game, or you know, if you're playing the entire games and it's going to be one of the last preseason games where you've got a lot of guys on the field who are not starters. Pretty much looking at guys just on his level at that time. So as you go forward, we're looking at what we're

facing here. I'm wondering if Cooper rush first NFL start, would that be any difference from de Nucci's first NFL start last week? First of all, you gotta I think a stronger opponent defensively, and so that's something that you're gonna have to get accustomed to. Not only the fact that not just that, but the fact that it's his first game ever as a starter. That gives me great pause. And I don't know if that's going to be an improvement on what we've already seen from de Nucci in

last week's game. That's my only thing, and I agree on thing, agree with you on that, but remember who he had on his side of the ball too at that time with the game true, but yeah, that's trying to make the team as well. I guess, okay. And one other note on Cooper Rush. Do you know who? Okay? I said that he was with the Giants on their practice squad until September twenty ninth. Do you know who the Giants signed as their practice squad quarterback on September

thirty over Cooper Rush. I do not. Clayton Thorson. No, they did not, so Jason Garrett. Of course, Clayton Thorson was here. So Jason Garrett, after having Cooper Rush on this practice squad for a month, he opted to go with Thorson. Now we don't know for sure, you know, he could be also, it could have been and he's trolling. He's trolling out roster. That's what he's doing. You know what.

The other thing, Cooper Rush might have had some deal with the giants that said, hey, yeah, i'll sign you with you with you on your practice squad for a month, but then if I'm if I'm not making any progress a month into this, will you release me? And they

may have just released him for that reason. He was banking on himself that he could catch on someplace and not get lost on somebody's practice squad where teams don't realize that he's even uh, you know what he's doing, or he could go work work out for teams or whatever. Here all right, now, let's move on to Garrett Gilbert. Here, Garrett Gilbert for those who are not familiar with him, and there's a connection that Mike McCarthy with Garrett Gilbert. Okay,

do you know where Garrett Gilbert went to high school? Everson, It had to be in Texas, at Texas Lake Travis High School. In fact, Garrett Gilbert, I mean his high school career at Lake Travis. It was. You can put that up against virtually anybody this side of Kyler Murray, and he's right up there as far as being the Gatorade National Player, every five star quarterback. And don't forget his freshman year at Texas, Everson. Don't forget his freshman

year at the University of Texas. He played in the national championship game against Alabama as Colpe McCoy got hurt in that game. And it was Garrett Gilbert, of freshman out of Lake Travis who came into that game against Alabama. So that was two thousand and nine and Alabama one. Yeah, there's a lot of long horns out there that will tell you, mister Walls, there's a lot of long horns that will tell you that if Colpe McCoy hadn't got hurt in that game, it would have been a different story.

But instead it was Greg mceloy and Alabama that won over Garrett Gilbert and Texas in that game. But the point being, Gilbert was a five star guy coming out of Lake Travis. And here's the point as it relates today to the Cowboys. Mike McCarthy's daughter graduated from Lake Travis High School. I believe she was a year We're gonna win, so there. That's it. We're gonna win. That

means we're gonna win. There's Yeah. It's funny because when I asked, we taped the McCarthy Show last night, and so I s asked, him, Uh, you know, he told me that we were gonna go with the Gilbert and Rush during practice this week, and so I say, okay, well tell me about both of them. And he talked about Gilbert first. Okay, so there you go. Maybe that's a tip off. I don't think it is. Maybe it was because I I worded it that way. Tell me

about Garrett Gilbert and Cooper Rush. And the first thing he said was, well, he went to Lake Travis High School. So there you go, little insider information. Yeah, So any I wouldn't I wouldn't be surprised if they go with Gilbert over Rush. I wouldn't. I wouldn't be so pc if I go there, I wouldn't. Yeah, And he's been here longer, been here, you know how many weeks? He probably has been here in three weeks at October. I can tell I might even have it right here. Um

you know, yeah, I can't. I can't wait till. I can't wait till next week when you bring up another underachieving Texas high school quarterback that made it in the NFL, that would you like about Gilbert. Gilbert was on the practice squad with the Rams in twenty fourteen. Then he moved on to the Patriots practice squad in fourteen and fifteen. He was on the Lions practice squad in fifteen. He was on the Raiders practice squad in fifteen and sixteen, and then he was on the regular roster with the

Carolina Panthers in seventeen and eighteen. He was with the Orlando Apollos in twenty nineteen, and then this year he was back and forth between the regular roster and the practice squad with the Browns before the Cowboys signed him off their practice watch. He's got a lot of practice in order to make his debut. He was signed October sounds like the new offensive coordinator in the making, that

ave coordinator in the making. October thirteenth. He's been here three October thirteenth, three weeks so, and one of those weeks he had to go through COVID, so he did October nineteenth. So October nineteenth probably he finally got on the practice field. Yeah, all right, it's the top of the hour. I could definitely see him. I could definitely

see him as an offensive coordinator in the future. Okay, yeah, you're saying that, I might as well have just read Kellen Moore's resume to you, is that what you're saying? That's right? All right? Just go prop yourself up behind the great starting quarterback and hold you hold the paper

for the rest of your career. We know where you headed straight up to the oct And I doubt McCarthy actually ever watched Garrett Gilbert play a high school football game live and in person because he was coaching the Green Bay Packers, unless it was maybe on a bye week or something for the Packers. But he might know his dad, Gail Gilbert, who of course played in the NFL.

When he made his trips down to Lake Travis, probably played golf with g Because I knew I was going to make that mistake, I had to make a reference to him on one of the things we were taping, and I did say, Gail Gilbert and okay, here's another thing as we go to break that may will this sell you ever soon? On Garrett Gilbert. He came to

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There you go. That's exactly right, all right. M the Cowboys Eagles game, the the fumble return for a touchdown that basically clinched the game for the Eagles. Yes, all right, you got a problem with it. I've got a problem, and I had a problem at the time, and I think everybody had a problem at the time. The head

coach had a problem with it after he saw it. Boy, I'm not at liberty to say exactly what the head coach said about it, and so I will not talk about what the head coach might want to say about it, but I will say what I will say about it. And obviously there was the off sides to begin with, yes, all right, that would not be reviewable, although maybe it should be reviewable, okay, and on a play like that and an obvious off sides, But anyway, that's why that

sky judge is supposed to be over there. That's beside the point, all right. As we all saw, there was a scrum in the middle of the field, and it appeared that Vinny Curry had the football and it got ripped out, and it appeared on replay that perhaps he had it long enough to be down by contact and the Eagles would have taken over at that point because it was a fourth down play, right right, Okay, And I still remember the play started at the Cowboys twenty

six maybe something like that. Okay, that's all. That's all beside the point, Okay, that's but okay, there's about three minutes left in the game, all right. Roddy McLeod picks it up goes for a touchdown. We're all thinking and the NBC commentators Al Michaels and Chris Collins weren't their review and it's and we're and then all of a sudden, we come out of all the as we're watching on television, We're come out of all those replays, and they're running

the two point conversion. And so I'm sitting there going, what did they review it or not? Okay? Apparently they were all out to lunch on it. They had no idea that it was even going okay apparently, I mean obviously whether in the booth upstairs. Maybe they don't have the all the they don't have all the replays that

we see at home on TV. Maybe they should. They get supplied about five angles supposed to have them anyway, regardless, they're supposed to have more than we're Apparently they didn't look at it as closely as what the NBC crew did, because we got a much better look at it, and it took it was going to take longer than what they reviewed it for all scoring plays are reviewed, right, Well,

here's my proposal. I think that you ought to be able to challenge all scoring plays because in that situation because McCarthy could not challenge the play because it's a scoring play, right, Okay, it's penalty, isn't it used to be a penalty. It is delay a game penalty, all right.

So the rule needs to be that you can challenge a scoring play because there may be something that your people up in the booth, what you see on the big screen in the stadium, maybe something that you wanted an aspect of the play that you want to challenge, especially a more complicated play like that that they may not see and may not even be aware of to look at. And so that way you can stop it.

You can challenge it. You run the risk of losing the time out and losing whatever, you know, if if it's no good you know, if you if you fail on the challenge. But at least they take a look at it, because that was a game changing play. That guy had reservations at PA. That's what it felt for a people after the game. I mean even the NBC crew after the fact. Oh and runner the two point play, they dropped it. There wouldn't even anything talk about it after that. And I think I told you guys what

I did. I remember writing down sack fumble, and then I saw the play going down the field. You didn't even write down touchdown. I did not. I say that, well, this was coming back. He obviously was down. That ball was down there on the ground for all that time. There's no way he wasn't down by contact. Then all of a sudden, I look up and they're showing the replays and it's like, yeah, he's down, So I'm writing, yeah, down, you know, next down. And then I look up and

they're lined up for a two point conversion. Fast. But if you allow a team to challenge a either a scoring play or a change of possession, which obviously are huge plays, they ought to be able to challenge it because there could be a certain aspect of the play that the officials or the replay booth aren't even aware of. Well, you don't even get it. That didn't even delay long enough for them to look at it. In New York, right,

what they're supposed to do. Right, everything's reviewed. And I think if the if the head referee had got his little tablet out there, and even if it's this big, he could see what happened that Vinny Curry had the ball.

He was laying his on it right on his chest, and even and even if they decided there wasn't enough evidence to overturn it, and fine if that if, but at least look at it, and that way, if you know that you got a fair shake on it they did, at least look at it if you can challenge it. So I'm taking that to the competition committee. Uh in the offseason, right, I'll go with you, bell like that.

All right, Yeah, here's the thing, guys. I mean, it's nationwide TV, right, This is not like it's some regional games. This is the only game that's when that's but that's when the NFL is supposed to show just how competent they are. Just like it's prime time for the teams, it's also prime time for the NFL itself. So these are guys that are paid by the NFL to show just how we've got this entire game under wraps. There won't be any controversies. This is why we're prime time crew.

So that prime time crew has to be on point. Hell, a host, referee, whoever the guy is on TV, he's dressed up in his soup. He's part of the crew, and all they ask him, what's going on and he as he's explaining it, I think they were lining up for the conversion, so it caught. It caught everybody off guard, which should not happen if you're on the field reviewed the scoring play. No one's in a hurry. Okay, the game is still good, so let's just do the right thing.

I thought, that's the most amazing thing I've ever seen, and very frustrating because and I know when on his whiners, but this crap only seems to happen to cowboys. Okay, it just only seems to happen to the Cowboy players, therefore the fans. So that's just another beef we can strike up to me, all right, not that not that the Cowboys will have the need to punt against the Steelers on Sunday, but that we haven't going to turn the ball over. We're talking optimism here. I'll go ahead

Bill for MEAs he was being very facetious too. Should the putter make his way onto the field on Sunday, Yeah, against the Steelers, who might that punter be? Punter will be Hunter Niswander Hunter, the punter Hunter Hunter, who, by the way I found out, not only can punt, but he also can kick off and he can kick field goals. Can he hold? Uh? That's what I think was the last straw that he had to prove he could do that. That's why they worked out indoors today and they kicked

the media out and had practice indoors. Yeah, they didn't want you to see that whether he can hold or not, well, he better be able to unless one of these quarterbacks is capable. Because Chris Jones is gonna have surgery on Thursday to repair a torn core muscle which was bothering him last year. And I was told that he he just was at meant that he can do this. He wanted to punt through it. He didn't want to have surgery, and I think he tried to rehab it during the

whole off season and it flared. It was evident. It was I thought, it's been evident all season. Oh yeah, absolutely, he been starting with the Rams game exactly. I thought. I was like, it was not you know what, you know what I thought. I thought it was some strategy that that Fossil had that like, okay, shorts, punch short. Maybe he's apparently I haven't followed Fossil. He's got this this great reputation as a special teams coach. Oh no, I see he punts it real high in the air.

He goes that way. They don't have return no returns, right, so we don't have to cover and make a tackle because we didn't get a lot of practice at that. But yeah, I like Fossil. I love Fossil. I love the way he's not throwing in the town. You talk about going deep into the playbook, right, he's doing just like Cooper Us. He's going deep into it. I love it. So he's gonna have surgery on Thursdays, so I would

have imagine. I mean, that's sort of what Sean Lee had and he was out five five weeks at least. So who could be the season? Right? I think we're probably done. You better. You're gonna hang your hat on, Niswander. Is that how you say? Did I say it right?

I don't have no idea, but we're gonna go with for now until we hear differently from Jim Nanson Tony Romo on the Game on Sunday Afternoon on CBS, it's Hunter Niswander, who was signed to the practice squad in October twenty sixth, that he is your new punter for the Dallas Cowboys and maybe the new holder Chris Jones. Chris Jones and underrated consistent player on this team. He will be miss trust me well. And the pronunciation guy doesn't even have his name listed because he wasn't on

the fifty three man roster to stuff. And how about what Chris Jones has done in his career. I mean when you consider the fact that he was a college free agent in twenty eleven, yeah and so, and he's had a really good career year and this this injury bothered him last year and you could tell it was

bothering him this year. And you know, and I was thinking, I think I said it yesterday when we were talking about it, when they decided to take the safety, I was thinking, well, if he punted from five yards deep in the end zone, they're going to get the ball at the thirty five yard line, So maybe just we better off doing this and kick it further and we

give up too, but we don't give up seven. But more importantly, you had an opportunity to kick, yes, And I understood that, but that's when first went through my mind. It was like, because he's struggling kicking the ball, and I didn't know which way the wind was going, So yeah, I was thinking, okay, that makes sense because I didn't think LP snapped the ball that poorly. That looked like that looked like that hike against the snap against the rams that Tony Romo had to run back what thirty

yards to pick it up? Oh? Wow? Yeah, and now and then he ran forty yards back the other way to get the first down. Yeah. Oh, one of the great moments in Cowboys history. All right, that does it for this edition of Mixed Shots. Anyone to have a parting shot. We don't know the Cowboys quarterback, and we don't know who the new president of the United States is, and so maybe by one thirty tomorrow afternoon. All right, that does it. Ever since, enjoy your the rest of

your Wednesday. We'll see you tomorrow. We'll see all of you tomorrow at one thirty. This has been a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club.

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