Mick Shots: Previewing The 2022 NFL Draft

we are now how many weeks away? Three? Three weeks away from day one of the twenty twenty two National Football League Draft. This is Mick Shots. Bill Jones on the line, you take it too long? Bill? Whose voice is, hey, Hey, if you're not here, you're you're your third out of mind? That's right? Who is that? Bill Jones? Mickey Spagnola inside the s WBC podcast studio and on the s WBC phone line is Everson Walls. Hello, you know you mis me? You know you missed me. I miss you guys too.

I'll say it, man, I'm man enough to say that. You know I had stuff for you, but now I got to keep it for another week. Oh cool. Cool. You can stew on that, you can grant when I get back. No, you're gonna stew on it because I'm not telling you what I had for you. It's but I have something for Bill. By the way, we have our Dallas Cowboys Official twenty twenty two Draft Guide. You think there's more information inside than the Green Green, Well,

we're about to find out. You don't have any pictures in your No, there's no no pictures in my big green notebook. Yeah, but his handwriting is way better than what you're gonna be reading in print. I don't know about. That's the problem. That's why the Big Green Notebook cannot be published. I'm the only person who can read the handwriting inside it. So some type of a William hieroglyphics.

That's right, that's right, that's exactly right. So it's the official twenty twenty two Dallas Cowboys Draft Guide right here. And where can we find these drafts? Well, you would ask, ye, got that information somewhere here in all my notes. Uh So if you would like one, Uh, you can find the direct link for the digital issue. Uh boy, it's a long deal. You can go to twenty twenty two Draft guide. It seems long. I mean, come on, what happened?

So you can get it on email, Facebook, Twitter, Instagram and on the web. And he comes up as b I dot l y slash twenty twenty two draft guide. I told you it was involved. Okay, all right, so do that? All right? So our visit Dallas Cowboys dot com slash star. Okay, Mickey's had his time ever since. How are things going with you? Everything is great, guys. I have been extremely busy, and I think also I almost thought I had, as the young people say, the VID,

the vid. Yes, that's what they called. You got the VID? No, I do not. But now I actually took the test and everything. I was kind of nervous though I had been down for the cow far about a week strong. Oh my goodness, so much better. Nown back on the road and take care of it. All right, very good. How about you, Mickey? I'm good, rare to go, rare to go, twenty one days away from that. Excited about all these moves that are happening here behind the scenes. Yeah. Absolutely. Hey,

the visits started this week, that's right. Uh. They did the Dallas Day on Friday, and this week they started their thirty National Visits. Guys been coming in daily, so have you I've been able to eyeball any of them. Uh no, whatever they're doing, it's inside the Ford Center or it's in the other wing over there. Yeah, but we're allowed on the other side. You need to go

just walk around and see. Yeah, well you know what I had, but you have you haven't looked inside the big green notebook, and so you wouldn't know anybody if you saw anyway, right, I don't know they have the pictures. Yeah, I didn't walk around with the d That's what you did. That's what the pictures are for. In the draft guide. Mickey's walking around the Star with this week with this draft guide, and he's trying to match up pictures. There's

Trey Burkes, wide receiver Arkansas. There he is, you know, Fag used to really be the in the know. He's kind of gotten demoted, you know, as the cowboy picking or the concerned. So he's just like sitting on the outside there. William h starting to get in. It's okay, yeah,

it's okay, Well, what do you want to know. I've got twenty one names here that are supposed to visit or have visited Oh, well, what do you You know, what you can tell what I have been able to tell buy those names in the past, because there have been years where the Cowboys don't draft off those visits, and there are a number of years where they have

drafted players who visited. Uh, I kind of look at and I don't know, I haven't gone back and researched it to see if after the fact, if this is the way the draft played out for but you can kind of get a feel for positions that they might be looking at, which at what at what time during

the draft. You know, because a lot of those wide receivers that they've had in here our first round prospects, which tells you that they could draft a wide receiver in the first round in that right, So you're saying they don't necessarily lean towards a particular position of who comes to visit, you know, I'm saying they you can kind of get a feel that what they're thinking pre drafted. It all changes once once the draft starts and your

guy gets taken in the first round. Uh. You know, Um, but when you've got a number of wide receivers that are projected as first or second round picks, who are making visits. Then you got a pretty good feel that they if they like those guys and some of the guys that come to visit their question marks about him, that that's the reason they brought them in for visits. They need to find out more about him. It's not

that necessarily that they liked the guy. It might be that they've got He's a suspect as much as a prospect, so I can know. So what you're trying to say, Ben William here on mix shot is that the Cowboys are looking to draft the wide receivers. Are we going public with that right now? That you're saying, well, they need to. You know when they went public with that when they led him Cooper went to Brown. I tried to tell you that two weeks ago, and you kept

wanting an offensive guard. I'm sticking to that, all right. So here, this is an unofficial list, and it was projecting guys that either we're going to visit or have visited. They've got three wide receivers coming in and this is only twenty one of the thirty. They can bring in three wide receivers, three defensive tackles, two guards, a center, and three tight ends by the way one offensive tackle. So they're announcing they need a tied in. I think

they already said they needed. They also announced that they need a kicker Blake Jarwin. Blake Jarwin got hurt and then Blake Jarwin got released, and so I mean, it's it's pretty easy. There are no surprises on this list. No, when you look at positions speaking, all you have to do is just follow along with who's left the team and look at my shopping list, and there are vacancies

shot there products that still need to be purchased. And um, I did a little bit of a research here and went and looked in the NFL where the money is going per position? Okay, And I've always said in the NFL, if you need answers, you follow the money, right, And so they had. I saw a list the average pay of the top five guys at certain positions. And obviously the highest paid position is quarterback, right, Well, the next

highest paid position wide receiver. So in the pecking order of importance, the NFL teams think that the wide receiver position is worth spending the next amount of money on average salary. When did you do your research the other day? The other day? So it wasn't yesterday after Stefon Diggs signed his contry. Well, I think was already in there. Stefan was already in there. Yes, okay, twenty six million and this was what there basis. I was just gonna say.

If it was done before Stefan Diggs agreed to his contract extension, the money for wide receivers just went up, right, And this is this is what their average of their contracts is. Okay, and the top five receivers Tyree Kill, Hopkins, Digs, Julie Julio, Julio, Julio Jones. Uh, and my handwriting so bad, I can't read what the other one is? Twenty eight million? Who would have that? Oh? Um, come on, hey, he's making twenty eight million a year. Who did you mention? Hill, Hopkins, Digs,

Julio Jones, Adams and Adams. I can read your legal pan. I'm not even looking at their average average their average salaries together the five twenty six point seven million dollars, and that the most most expensive to lease, the way you most expensive. DeVante went from the record breakers right, well, he'll he'll topped them and then yeah, he's been topped a lot. That's my point. Yeah, he's been topped like

four more times. Whoever signs last usually tops, right, and then and then if from Stefan's not on that list, no, Diggs, I said, oh you did say you did say twenty six million a year? All right, So so that to me, that is extremely revealing. I've really I'm kind of surprised about that and so disappointed. Got well, running back is going to be now back? Are they just gonna be like deal, go kickers? You know what I mean? I didn't even bother them. Okay, but let's look at that, okay,

because I need to. And the next two, the next two offensive tackles they have twenty one point four million the top five, and defensive vans twenty one million, guards sixteen point two million. And this can tell you right now, five, I'll tell you right now, the only thing cheaper than the running back is going to be defensive back. What do I tell you? How much do you want to

bet it's gonna be running back to the bottom. And defensive backs on top of running back, cornerbacks are around nineteen okay, nineteen million the top five top So that just gives you a little bit of idea of who's getting paid in this league. Well, and it's interesting because on the Diggs contract, with the amount of money they're paying for the wide receiver, they've already dealt the money for Josh Allen, the quarterback whose cap hit this year,

I just called it up. He's at thirty nine million this year, forty one million next year, fifty one million the following year. Are his cap hits on his contract that he signed. Right, Davante Adams is with a veteran quarterback who doesn't make that money with that car now, but he Green Bay could not keep him because of the amount of money they're paying their quarterback, Tyreek Hill. Kansas City got rid of him because they've got two, you know, salary cap issues themselves, and he was towards

the end of his deal. And so you're either you're making on a lot of these teams, you're making choices. Okay, Buffalo has made a choice. They're gonna go ahead. They're paying their quarterback and they're paying wide receiver top dollar, but they're going to take away from some other position

on the field. Okay, Kansas City has made a decision where they got their quarterback, They're gonna do whatever they can at wide receiver, and they're paying They're playing Chris Jones a ton of money defensive tackle and others on their team, and so you can't pay every position top dollar.

So the top five quarterbacks their average their contracts Rogers fifty million, Watson forty six, Mahomes forty five, Alan forty three, and Dak Prescott forty And the only one of those quarterbacks who has a wide receiver on that list is josh Allen Buffalo. I was just gonna say that it seems like all of them had to sacrifice someone for that, that's right, which which then explains why the Cowboys made

the decision they made on Amari Cooper. And and you know, and they they got to be right on this that the twenty million or the sixteen million they gained on the cap was more important than having Amari Cooper back on the team. So they made they made to me, they made a talent evaluation that his base salary exceeded what his production is projected to be in their eyes. Right, they got to be right because now they got to

replace him. And that's why I keep saying, you know, in either first or second round, got to have a wide receiver, because right now, who are your top three? Assuming Gallop misses the first two three four games. Let me let's I'll throw this out at you two and Everson. Look at the wide receiver room and we're Cede Lamb. Okay, with the with the players that were in that wide receiver room last year, I'm ARII Cooper obviously the veteran guy.

He's the leader of that group. Ceedee Lamb in his second year last year, Michael Gallop in his fourth year. And just knowing the personalities involved there, Okay, all right, who when you project forward this coming season in the next year, who is the leader of that Who would who would have been the leader of that locker room or of that room, the wide receiver room one more

time today, Like if they'd kept a mari Cooper. Oh, if they'd kept a Mariy Cooper in that room, Okay, he's as long as he's with the team, he's still the leader of that group. Correct. Okay, if it kept Cooper,

you got Ceedee Lamb, you got Michael Gallup. Okay, where were the projections as far as growth, as far as being a leader on the team for a guy like Ceedee Lamb or for a guy like Michael Gallup, and is that growth stunted if you have I'm talking away from Obviously the number one thing is the production on the field, but there are some other intangibles that go into this too, in the making of the culture of

your football team. And I don't know that necessarily you don't see very many teams that have two wide receivers that are the lead dogs. You know, they're there's a lead dog in a wide receiver room. You know. Do you mean in the room or on the field. I got disagree, God disagree. Look at Tampa before god one got hurt, right, And let's say, look at Tampa while

Antonio Brown was there as well. And I'm talking, I'm talking as far as a leader, not not production, but as this is the guy that's that's looked up to

in the room, as he sets the tone for the room. Well, initially, before I heard whatever I've heard from this past season, I would have said that Marty Cooper would have been happy to be that silent leader and Ceedee Lamb, because he's a lot more versatile, would be the guy that he would just really uh let him take that load, the verbal load you know what I mean, And I don't, you know, based on rumors, that's not how Cooper wanted

to play it. But before this past year, I would have said, uh, CD would be easily being a guy seeing Anna and from a personality standpoint, with Cooper gone, I don't know that CD's got the personality to be the guy that everybody fouls. Michael Michael Gallup is kind of quiet, right, and so just and I hadn't met the guy. I just listened to his interview, But James Washington might be the most veteran personality wise guy to kind of lead the room. If you look at it.

Gallop hardly played what two years in a row. At least Washington has played off four years. So to me, now he's got to make his way. You're a newcomer, right, he kind of mine your business until things start cooking right now. But I just think CDs kind of he's kind of quiet. He I can't remember who said it. It might have been McCarthy said, we got the quietest wide receiver room I've ever been around. Me. There's no guys that are just boisterous. Me me, me, you know

what I'm saying. Would you have thought that about CD Bill Um, Well, I think no, I understand where Mickey's coming from on that. He's not He's not the Michael Irvin type, you know, raw raw type guy. I believe, I do believe. But I really thought that CD would

be like, you know, coming up this year. Well that's that's where That's what I'm getting at, is maybe now he can grow into that role, you know, more so whereas before he's always going to um, he would follow, follow whatever, you know, because because because Amari is the leader in the room, because he's got the skins on the wall. So I think I think his productivity and responsibility is going to lead forward probably about another twenty

I agree with you on that. And and I think Mike McCarthy pointed out that with Amari gone, his opportunities are going to increase, and what they're hoping is the production increases along with it. And by the way, what he's done in his first two years, no other Cowboy wide receiver is done. If you look at the production, the amount of catches, he's got more catches in two years than any other Cowboy receivers had in their first

two years. And that's that's after having a being part of a squad that really, like you said, could you always did doubt his potential of the target. And then and the other point that McCarthy made is now he's the flanker, which that's the position where normally the ball was going to the first look and then the outside guy and then the inside guy. And he played a lot inside. Yeah, I also see a lot of him in back in the backfield. Again, I think that's going

to be a steady diet of that in specially key situation. Yeah, I think they're going to really pick up the usage of him. I'll see you land. And you know, if James Washington hasn't lost a step, you know he's got that potential. Also, they didn't use him in that way. And even if he has, even if he had lost the step, but he's still fast, right, and there's no reason why he hadn't lost a step. He's twenty six

years old. Yeah, you know. And the thing, the thing in Pittsburgh, we saw Pittsburgh play the last couple of years and the quarterback could not throw the ball deep and so and that I wouldn't imagine that probably went into the decision making process that the Cowboys said when they were looking at James Washington, what he can do for this offs the deep threat because he's home cooking, right, home cooking. Yeah, he's from West Texas. Yeah, there you go, Yeah,

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six zero KPE postcompany dot com. All right, very nicely done, Mickey Spagnola. The only news of this week. Keyan O'Neil. Yeah, obviously, I don't think the Cowboys had much interest in bringing him back, and Keyan O'Neil did not have interest in playing the same position and he played last year, and so now he's a Tampa Bay buccaneer as a safety safety. Well, no,

I think they said you're a safety here. I don't think that look the Cowboys the way that I think they looked at it is the spot his role and somebody mentioned it, either Stephen or Jerry uh that you know, they've got Jabril Cox to kind of fill that role as a nickel U linebacker to go with Parsons and

you've got vander Ish uh so, I think. And then also the way they used Jay Ryan Curse started reducing the snaps that Neil got on the nickel, So they valued Curse getting him back, I think more so than keeping Neil as a true safety since they tried to play him at linebacker. Yeah, I kind of. I kind of made reference to that a couple of weeks ago, So stop trying to steal my thumb to the bag. I've already kind of attached on that, all right. But uh but he actually said Keanu that he wanted to

play which position, safety safety. I can't see him being a I can't see that. I can't see that. Can you guys see that as a strong safety? Well, that's a different. Now, that's different. I mean that's what that's what he's saying, strong safety. Okay. Well yeah, no, yeah, okay, which is what he's been. He's not taking your spot on. Yeah, I'm still coming bad, guys, I'm not here working out right. As a matter of fact, I also saw that Taco

showed up again. That's right, the Saints. Yeah. When I talked Taco, Charlton uh signed with the new Orleans Saints on Monday, a signing that should have happened on Tuesday. What do you think about that? I could even touch it. It took like it took like three seconds for Vicky a register in Vicky's mind. But anyway, Yeah, you got me though, Taco Tuesday. Taco Tuesday. But I don't know that they eat a lot of tacos in New Orleans. Yeah,

so Todd Bowls thinks thinks a lot of Kean. Yeah, and you know, they probably had an opening and the price and his deal was he was on a one year like five. It wasn't a two year deal that voided. So he's got some dead money this year because they gave him a little bit of a signing bonus. So there's a I think maybe a million or so U that had to go into the cap this year. His I want to say, his money last year was more than what jay Ron's money was last year. Yeah, yeah,

that's what I mean. Yes, yes, yes, so, meaning that his price tag was going to even though he didn't have the same stats here as jay Ron did. Jay Ron obviously had a better season stats wise, Keanu Neil's price tag was still where he wanted it to be Yeah and absolutely so. Yeah, it was so the market was not there for Keyoni. Yeah, that was another one they lost that they weren't going to bring back. You know, I keep reading the Cowboys loss Connor Williams and Lale Collins.

They weren't bringing Connor Williams back, right, And it was their choice to get rid of Lale Collins. I would say they weren't bringing Lale Collins back either, right exactly because they would have been. I mean, they couldn't trade there. They're taking a bigger hit on Lale Collins as far as their money situation goes. But it was there. It's

their choice, their choice. Yeah, that's why I said where I started with this with Amari, those are two more they better be right, like you better be able to replace them with somebody that could at least play as well. So they made the decision on Lele Collins that for what he was going to cost, they were better off with Terrence Steele starting at right tackle. Okay, so by by them getting rid of Lyle Colin and Connor william So what do what do the tea leaves say about that?

People somewhere in the first two rounds they need an offensive lineman. I think I wasn't. I wasn't that far off. I'm just I'm tipped around off then in regard so salary cap guru, how are they sitting at the cap right now? Um, they're fine, And they don't get Lele Collins based salary until June one, right, so, but they do have dead money for him this year and next year.

I think it's five this year, eight next year. So reading the tea leaves I expect a veteran interior offensive lineman to be signed yes free agency at some point, and it might it might be before the draft, it might be after the draft. I was going to say, at one point, you do you think that's going to happen. I think I think like tight end, it might look at it and say, okay, let's see what we get

and then what we can do after the draft. But I think to not cause yourself to reach at the guard position, you bring in a veteran beforehand, somebody on a one year deal, no more than two years, that is capable of starting, but doesn't have to start. If you get somebody that beats them out, and you don't have to follow the money and say well, we paid

them all this, he's got to start. See. I think that there there are probably two three veteran offensive line interior offensive linemen out there in free agency that Joe Philbin likes, and there may be at different price rangers right now. And it may be if one of those guys has an offer from another team before the draft and they and they say, Okay, we like him this much. It's not going to cost us that much. We'll go ahead and make this signing before the draft. They could,

they would do it. But if they're good, okay, go sign with Green Bay or wherever you know. Right, we'll wait and there may be somebody at a higher price range that they see what they're doing at the draft, what they're able to get at the draft. If they're not able to fill that position in the draft, then they go get that guy after the draft. So look at what they did at defensive end. They brought in Dante Fowler on a one year deal, not costing him

much at all. So you that doesn't preclude you from drafting a defensive end. So to me, when they get to twenty four and if they're not moving around wide receiver, defensive end, offensive lineman. I think those three positions at this point have to be their priority. Depending on the talent is what is their bigger need on the offensive line in the draft, which I'm talking if I have my druthers. My druthers are an offensive tackle who can play guard and eventually move to tackle in a year

or two if I need it. And again that's why I did the little thing on following the money. You know, the difference between what guards get played and what offensive tackles get paid is significantly different, five million dollars different in the average. So that tells you where the value is. So to me and I keep seeing the center thing. I don't know. If the guy is a can he play guard or center? Most of them can, or I

mean most of them. You if you're not playing, I mean you're you're you're not the same player, but you can fill in and you know, and they can live with. He's under size, I would say he's a center. I mean he's under three hundred pounds, right, and so that's very small what I read about, it's small for a center with that he had trouble with big defensive tackles. Well, are you going to bring him you're already got that.

You got that at at center already, right, So don't bring in another guy that's going to have the same thing. You know everybody's talking about. Way he was the Rimmington Award winner, well so was Beadih by the way, and he's only played two seasons and he started full time one. So to me, I'm willing to give him some leeway as another year as the starter. But I gotta find in. If somebody's better than Connor McGovern, then I got to find somebody that can play guard. But I just don't

want a guard guard. I want a tackle who can play guard because I need him. Sort of the way Lele Collins did at the beginning of his career, the way Flozell Adams did the beginning of his career, the way Solomon Page did at the beginning of his career. These guys went inside before they went outside, and they were extremely inexperienced as well. If you look at it right, you're exactly at the end of the season, big time we're getting You know I was fussing about it, isn't it.

We know, poor man Rush giving us credit a pressure, consistent pressure, especially towards the lady. Part of the season where we really needed them to come through and give us some time and give us that luxury of even mclock and I advantage. We just never could do that. And seeing the other thing that stuck out to me, and I'm probably going to write about it tomorrow in

my column is Stephen Jones. When he was talking about drafting offensive linemen, and I can't remember if I mentioned this last week or not, so stop me if I did. He pointed out that it's very difficult these days to project college offensive linemen into the NFL because of the way college offenses are run. And so to me, that would give you pause because they're not running the football

in college. They're basically throwing almost every down. And when I start reading about some of this stuff, these guys are good pass blockers, but they're weak against in run blocking. So when he said that, to me, that almost seems to give him pause on taking a first round offensive lineman and maybe waiting to the second round. So if it doesn't work out, your loss is not as big as failing. I mean, think about all the offensive tackles

that have failed lately in the first round. Right, there's a bunch of guys that they drafted and they haven't done anything. And it's because the game is so different on the offensive line, even a few experienced offensive lineman themselves tackles. I was I was disappointed with the signing of when Kansas City picked up the guy with the brown and they that's the left tackle. Remember after the Super Bowl when Tample just really rough shot over the

whole offensive line. Yeah, because it was all backups, right, Yeah, Well, I don't think he did much better. Uh, I think they signed Uh, I can't. I just can't remember that. It was that they signed a Brown and they brought him in at the free the signing the next year, um to help protect my homes backside. It didn't. I don't think it wasn't much Orlando Brown. Orlando Brown, good piece. Sooner which, by the way, speaking of the Sooner, I see that on this list I found online of people

visiting here. Yeah, Perry on Winfree. Oh really, yes, I would love him on this team. That tells you a lot. Talk to him about who that was the guy we saw last week this highlight filed when he made that tackle? Was it last week here? Yeah? Yeah? Yeah? It was with us? Yeah, right, that was on the Blitz. It was on the Blitz. Yeah. Perry On Winfrey, defensive lineman from Oklahoma. He was a Senior Bowl MVP. He he

just ate everybody up at the Senior Bowl. I mean in workouts, drills, one on ones, in the game everything. I think he had a couple of sacks in the game. And it's a testament to why I'm elated that there's a new coaching staff at Oklahoma because they didn't they didn't even use this guy like they making a tackle. First round talent and go ahead, I was gonna say. They showed him making a tackle when we were taping and he comes out of nowhere and just it was

like a mack truck ran into this guy. And I'm going that had to And I asked Bill, I go where did he played linebacker? And he goes, no, he's a defensive tackle. I think I saw that, guys, I think I saw and I think he had a really good Pro Day workout. Also, by the way, well he's one of those guys that you know if he if he actually hits you, actually like flight you and half if he goes he is he's a decleaner. He is there you go there. He's six or two hundred ninety

pounds with thirty five thirty five inch arms. Ran at two hundred ninety pounds, ran a four eight nine forty with a one sixty eight ten yards split. Last year at Oklahoma and eleven games, he had eleven tackles for loss in five and a half sacks twenty twenty nine games, only half a sack, which is to my point. That to my point, okay, why aren't they using this guy?

He was a juco transfer from Iowa Western Community College his first two years of college, but he was anyway, so he's kind of a late bloomer type there, but only twenty one years old. He didn't turn twenty two until August. And this guy, he will not only light up a running back or a quarterback, he will light up a room too. He's got that kind of a personality where he is really fun. I mean, his enthusiast

climbed up. You know, Daniel Jeremiah has him as his forty fifth ranked player in the draft, So that's middle of the second round. Hold it right there, Y gil Brandt just came out with his top one hundred and he had him forty eight Okay, so middle of the second round is what they're saying. And so we'll see Gil's description of him was another big defensive lineman with good speed. Mentioned the four point eight ninety Winfrey finished second among sooners and tackles for a losses eleven, and

third in sacks with five and a half. So anyway, when I saw his name come up on that list, I've gone, yeah, bring that guy on. All right, So defensive, Okay, the Cowboys have drafted the last couple of years. Well, Neville Gallimore out of Oklahoma two years ago in the third round, last year in the third round, OsO Digga Zua. And they are three technique types. Okay, So where does

Winfrey fit in then? Well, I bet he could play at that size, he'd be a nice one technique and they kind of played both of them kind of the same. I mean, he's got I think he's got enough athleticism he could actually play a strong side defensive end kind in a run situation whatever, in slide inside as well. I think he's I think there's probably from five technique

to zero technique. He could play all along the defensive line myself at that size and the way he ran I'll give you the same answer I did when I was promoting Parsons and somebody asked me where does he play? And I said, on the field. Just put him out there, let's go. You know, when we were at our best, though we have looked like a bunch of hybrids out there. You know, we were at our bet Uh that worked for so a certain situations. It's good for you. So

I want to start running the ball. You know, obviously we started getting isolatedn't that's where you you know, your your words reigned true spec Nola. You know, yeah, but then you got a three hundred pounds out that. Yeah, you know, all right, and you're basically you were right in the end. You were right because all of those guys that we had on that line, they never could stand up to the pounding that the eventual you know, kings late in the season. So we've we've mentioned the

importance of a wide receiver. We've mentioned the importance of an offensive lightman by the way, for sure bringing in uh. They brought in uh Trey Line Burke of Arkansas the wide receiver, and also Chris is an alive UH. He came in also for a visit and with offensive guards Kenyon Green and Zion Johnson Boston College. I believe it is. And they did bring in Jordan Davis, the defensive tackle from Georgia who basically disrupted that game. Right, Oh wellie,

he ran forty eight two six six three. I got him down with a four seven eight at the combine. Jordan Davis, Okay, four seven eight was his best. Yeah, all right, all right, get this, Everson, This guy, Jordan Davis, number ninety nine for Georgia, first team All American and by the way, Daniel Jeremiah has him as the number one defensive tackle and number seventeen overall. All right, six six, three hundred forty one pounds and ran a four seven

eight forty three hundred and forty one pounds. I ran a four seven eight with a thirty two vertical and a ten three broad. Jem, I thought I should somebody somebody wrote it by him. Yeah, at three forty one. But you know what he's played at three to sixty. Okay, So let me ask you this. You look at that Georgia defense and Kirby Smarts defense was so good. Hey, that was that was lunch back, all right. They not

only have Jordan Davis as an interior guy. But Devonte Wyatt, right is another guy who I love, and he's gotten this Gil Brandt list too. Right, and Devonte Wyatt Jordan Davis number ninety nine, Davonte Wyatt number ninety five, and Jeremiah's got him listed as the number two defensive tackle, number twenty nine overall. He ran a four to seven seven at three hundred four pounds, and he had twenty seven quarterback hits, thirty nine tackles, seven tackles for loss

in fourteen games at Georgia this year. All right. Then they've also got Treyvon Walker, who number forty four, who's probably going to be the second pick in the draft as an edge. He's sixty five, two hundred and seventy pounds and he they reused him at Georgia all along the defensive line. He played on the edge. There are

times where he ran. He played as a nose as well. Um, all right, And then it gotten to Kobe Dean, the linebacker who if if if teams valued line inside linebackers more, he would be up there in the top half of the first round. I mean, he may be the best player on the team all right. But you look at the Georgia defense and I go back to the Cowboys teams of the nineties. What was the strength of the Cowboys defenses in the nineties, Mickey, The defensive lineman, position,

what positions? What what position group? Was the best on that defense? Tea line? Because they can rotate exactly. So why is that? Why is that, George? Why was that Georgia defense so good? It's what they had up front on that defensive line. Does that translate anymore with the NFL out? I believe it. I believe it does, especially when you can get big guys to move like that and they don't have to be just two down lineman,

they don't have to come out on nickel. You leave them on the field and you don't get pushed around, and you know, we can go back and and remember that, you know this defense was not solidified last year. I mean, they got room to grow. So you'd be fine with drafting number ninety nine, Jordan Davis, number twenty four overall or number ninety five. Devanty I no. Number eight. Perry On Winfrey, Yes, number eight. He ever said he wore eight.

That's why I thought it was. I just thought I just thought he looks you know, it makes them look small. It's really weird. Just bring me a player, you know, and don't get carried away with this position. I'm yeah, you're talking my language. Right. There's enough knee on this team. Get the best player there that you can use exactly, all right. We continue with more mixed shots. In a moment before there was a draft, you could size up

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And what's that phone number again at eight eight eight five five two two nine seven. For those of us who are slow, say it again eight eight eight five five two two nine seven eight five five still works with Troy Aikman and Star like Leroy Jorde, We'll go, Leroy Jordan King, We'll go. So twenty two ninety seven, what do you want to go with? You want to? I mean there's there's there's a couple of twenty two. Bob he's a Rimmett. Yeah, okay, And then are you

going with ninety seven? Uh, come on Jones, right, Jimmy Jones. Jimmy Jones, Jimmy Jones, or Leroy Glover, Jason Hatcher, Jason Hatcher. There, Oh, there you go, there you go. So so everything's going with Jason Hatcher. So um by the way, Uh, I looked at some of the top signings the Cowboys had DeMarcus Lawrence being not in this group. Okay, that was one they had to get done, right. Uh. Jerry Jones said that was a pri already bringing back to Marcus Lawrence.

And they did so and save money against the cap. They saved thirteen million dollars against the cap. The way they structured his contract and the reason he did it, everybody says he took a pay cut. Basically, they guaranteed him thirty million dollars more than he had guaranteed on his original previous contract, and the thing was worth thirty million, so they basically guaranteed he was out of guarantees on his other contract. So that's what enticed him to sign

the deal that he did. But I looked at they ended up bringing back eight guys and in no particular order. Dalton Schultz counts in there, okay, and his cap pit for the franchise tag, which still can be adjusted, was ten point nine million. Then they also brought back Layton vandrus Dorrence Armstrong. They signed h James Washing to the veteran exception deal, brought back Jay Ron Curse, They signed Dante Fowler, Brian Anger, and brought back Carlos Watkins on

the veteran exception. So if you add up those eight cap hits, they ended up with eight guys for a total of twenty six point three million dollars. So that's people said, what did they do in free agency? Well, that's what they did in free agency. Now did you include Watkins on that? Carlos Watkins? Noah Brown? I didn't. I um and so nine guys and you just add another million dollars to it? Yeah, I did, say Jay run. So here we're Chip McQuaid. You have to have a

long snip. I know I didn't include I took the eight guys that I thought were important that they brought you. You don't think LP was important for seventeen years here or whatever. Okay, I didn't throw that one in there, Jake McQuay. Uh Ever, and if I had put him in there. Everybody goes, well, it makes it would make it a nice even ten ten. Why why you stop at eight? Right? Okay? And ten? And it would add another two million, okay, right, okay, So the most expensive

one obviously Sprinkle cap hit. No, he doesn't make my list. I'm sorry, why not? Because he's on the team. It's another veteran. I mean, you got you need a third tight end, right, He ain't gonna be the third tight end? Third tight ends in the draft? You don't think so? I think there would be a third tight end. Yeah, okay, So anyone's between Sprinkle and McEwen for the third tight end.

The most defensive cap hit of all those guys they signed other than Schultz was jay Ron Curse at three point seven two million, and then Armstrong at three point three eight million, and the rest of it. They just kind of nibbled against the cap, bringing guys in in necessary spots. Where does Michael Gallup fit into this equation? He he was a necessity. They don't fit the narrative.

I wanted to show what they did with some of these guys and how they spent their money, like basically eight guys, you know, and everybody's like, well, why didn't they signed Bobby Wagner. Well he was five years fifty million with a five year, five million dollars signing bonus and twenty million dollars gart Well, okay, so there it is there, it is right there. Do you want Bobby Wagner at five years fifty million or do you want Michael Gallop at five years fifty seven million? Right? And

I agree with that. Yeah, So there there's yeah, and Michael Gallops what twenty six? This guy's going to be thirty two the end of June. And basically, if you look at his contract the way it's structured, they can get they can turn it into a three year, twenty eight and a half million dollar deal and get out of it after three years with two million of dead money. And you're right, Bobby Wagner's a Hall of Famer. And if Bobby Wagner were twenty six or even twenty eight,

then yet you would take Bobby Wagner. But you wouldn't have been able to get him at twenty eight because Seattle would have kept him. Yeah, so he's averaging nine and a half million a year plus plus he's got incentives that he can make and and earn another million a year each year in incentives. So just to show you when see why didn't they signed Bobby Wagner, Well, they basically signed eight guys and it didn't cost him that much. All right, Before we go, I want to

ask Everson, Hey, what do you Everson? What do you think you know? Tyron Matthew visited the Saints this past week? Okay, what do you think of Tyron Matthew as a cowboy? If he fits salary wise, if he came here on a you know, economical deal one year, seven million something like that, I would I would like that because he's that guy that can make those he could decipher those plays that in that key situation you say, you know what, this is why we bought him here for that moment

right there. You see. I think he would be one of those vestans that could play solid all year long and if he had, if he had to, he would know exactly what the what the opposition is gonna run before they run. It's a lot like U ty Law. Did you know when he went to the Patriots US A lot like I did when I went to the Giant is nothing can substitute someone who's still capable and yet has that experience hell varn Miller and for the round.

You know, when it was time, he stepped up and did what he was supposed to do it and did what he was brought there for. Okay, and be great. Everson didn't get seven million when he went to the Giants. It was it was more like seventy thousand. You know, everybody asked me that question. I go, yeah, just how much does he want? You know, how how much does it take to get him? And he's getting up in age now, isn't he? And now, like Bill was saying, one of you guys just said, doesn't one year so

much something millions offer? But look at uh barn Miller end up getting like six years and Bobby Wagon. I'm sorry, I did not see that coming for guys who's still are still good. But dang, that is a lot of money. That is a good luck with that, you know they ain't good luck. Okay. So then as far as what Matthew,

where Matthew fits into this defense? You've got you've got at Safety, You've got Curse, and you've got Malie Cooker, and you've got Donovan Wilson, Demante Kazy has not signed anywhere, and so that there's a vacancy there at your in your safety room. Kean O'Neill has left. Obviously he was a linebacker slash safety here. Uh, and then yet as a slot corner to be your slot corners. Jordan lewis, So, so, how does how does Matthews? You know, I gotta look

it up here? You keep talking because he how can I put it? A guy that has put it all on the line, like to have a bit on the side. Sometimes he has taken out to hit and you could kind of see, uh. You know, he turns thirty in May. He's an old he's an old thirty. Yeah, he's been through a lot. He's been through to his credit, but that's when you really have to draw on more of your U was the word guile? Wow? No, I like that word gu I l e that. You know? Hey,

do y'all play wordle? No? You know what I'm talking about? Word? That would be a great good word. It's a five it's their five letter words. Guile would be a great one. G U I l E this morning? What was the word? I can't remember what the word was. I got it on the first try, well, he's bragging out himself in fact. No, no, here's what No, No, here's what I do. Here's what

I do. I do it with my daughters and my wife and so my youngest daughter Jordan, you know, because what you do is you you you figure it out and then it says how many trice it took for you to to get the word right? Okay, and so Jordan's uh text first and it shows what her guesses were, basically how many you get right in her first guest And then my second oldest daughter, Jessica, she did hers well.

They we went on a family trip to Broken Bow, Oklahoma, and they revealed what were what their first word is that they use every time, Like, um, I can't say what Jessica what her first word is, but uh, Jordan's first word is ghost, and so I could go off of I can go off of what by studying there what happened on their guesses that there's a couple of times now I've been able to get it on the first guess just based on what they missed whatever. So

this is like talking about fantasy footthall. It's actually pretty fun. It's a great family thing to do. Okay, all right, what do you think Tiger is doing right now? Is he still even part? Oh yeah, let me see what the heck is going on, Tiger? That would be another five letter words. Great, it would be very timely for tomorrow. Let me suggest that to the New York Times for your next work. Going back to going back to wait, wait,

what about walls? Come on? Yeah, that's I've noticed. Yeah, I noticed they don't do plural like like Rhodes with an S on the end of it. There, Apparently they don't do they don't do plurals. So and some walls walls would not qualify then. And I haven't seen a proper name yet either. Yeah, what about Jonas Jones? I have not. I was talking about the commercial. I got

one that went right over your head. All right, let's see, Oh whoa wow, tight, right, before you go on, before you go on, before you go h called some people at Grambling to get some information, and a lot of people down there listen to our podcast. All right, black people are into that's why we need you in studio. That's right. Ever, since that's why that's why you're we can't have you on the phone. We got to be

able to see you in studio. So wherever you found that out, make sure they know eight eight eight eight to two night seven. Okay, So so look I brought, I brought all of was it was it? What was that Bakla Baklava? Remember I was in baklover, New Jersey? Or uh about Buffalo? That was about bad chast I told you about that place. Yeah, yeah, and people that's right there, that's right. So yeah, man, that's that's only

because of me. Guy, Let's get that straight. It was the dry Fish you were talking about Italian restaurants, Baca of all. Yeah, and yes, who guess who is tied for third at the Master's right now? Wow, let me look at this. Through seven holes Tiger Woods is one under par and he's tied for third at the Masters. Come on, guys, what do we do? We dare speculate? I mean, come on, I heard the guys on the

radio and I was driving in. He hit his first shot and he wasn't happy with it, and I think he kind of sliced it and it wasn't on the fairway and they were all going, oh god, look at this. Well he ended up paring the hole. Right, he was in trouble and he parted. He was even par after three, I think I saw do we dare? Yeah? No, come on now, it's a matter of this can't be real. This can't be He birdied six. He birt like, this is like Will Smith slapping Chris Rock. It was this

is this is fake? Come on, the accident was fake. Which Gronkowski had a funny line last night on Jimmy Kimmel. Uh. Kimmel said something about, yeah, what's your personality? You could you could host the Oscars, and he goes, yeah, and he goes, I want to see somebody come up and slap me. He goes, they ain't getting away with it. He'll meet them. He'll meet them halfway, meet them halfway. But it's pretty funny, all right, So that doesn't for the special two hour version one under Now the question

is can he walk eighteen holes two days? And that's what I'm thinking, what I'm thinking fu on these practice rounds as well. Yeah, he's been really trying to yep. All right, So that's what you're doing for the next couple hours there, Everson, keep an eye on. No, no, you know I don't want Okay, that's you guys, you can have it. You had to do something. You had

to do something I couldn't do. Hey, if I was the PGA and he was playing in my tournament and I knew all the eyeballs were going to be on it, it's like, if he makes the cut, I give him a golf cart. Just keep keep keep playing, just keep playing. All right. That does it for this edition of mix Shots and more of our draft preview, and Everson is going to do his research over the course of the next week and we'll get his take on some of these draft prospects next Thursday at eleven thirty here on

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