Mick Shots: Press Coverage

and that can mean only one thing. It is time for Mick Shots on a rainy Tuesday morning here at the Star in Frisco, inside the s to BBC Mortgage Studios inside Ford Center at the Star in Frisco, Bill Jones, Everson Walls, and the star of the show, Mickey Spa of course, who just a moment ago informed does he

won't be here next Thursday. Nicky the show on Tuesday tell us that I don't know why it is a rainy day here, and so it's a disappointing day in that I came down the stairway here in the atrium at the Star in Frisco, looked out across the playing field and did not see any football players out there. Now we're inside, I guess strength and strength and conditioning

moved inside. That's what they're still doing. And then the coaches now can actually be on the field and do some position drills with the guys this week before they start OTAs next week. So hopefully the rain goes away and we'll get to watch uh some OTA practices that will be good, and they're only going to have six of them, by the way, they're allowed nine or ten.

In the past, it's been ten OTAs and the way Jason Garrett would do it, and of course we didn't have OTA's last year with Mike McCarthy as the head coach, but the way Jason Garrett would do it, there would be nine OTA practices and then the tenth OTA quote unquote practice was when they had the high school kids come out here and they and the players would coach

the kids. It was a great day, but organized team activities for those of you who don't recall what OTA stands for, So that was that was the final organized team activity. But they cut down on him this year, only six. And somebody asked Mike during the press conference on Saturday, why only six, and he goes, no, I've got nine days. Well he was counting the three mini camps.

So after the OTAs, they're going to have mini camps and I think what he was thinking was, because they're going to have to start training camp a week early because of the Hall of Fame game, that he wanted to give the guys that much of a break, So give them almost a month off before they I think there was another factor in there too, and that has to do with the players Union and how much voluntary or obviously it's the mandatory three day minicamp, but how

much of the voluntary offseason program that they are going to participate in. I think it was sort of a compromise for because there are a lot of there are some teams in the league where players are not reported back in mass like they have here. H and almost in en mass Yeah, and right, and so the Frenchman, the Frenchman, that's the only six years of French That's the only thing I think I remember. Dmos had something to say about that. There you go, that's exactly right,

and I'll see if I can find it here. But there was a letter that I was reading just a couple of days ago that was tweeted out from the players Union, one of the players reps Um explaining why, uh, you know, the player's position on it, and part of it was they felt like last year without a that's a bunch of bos you don't have at no, no, no, no, well we we now they're going at it now that I got a play that the play was better last year? Did he watch the Cowboys defense here? It was a

couple of weeks ago. We talked about that, We talked it out. There was a new one that came out this week that an explanation I gotta find it talking about one came out talking about yeah, ever since and I talked about it about injuries had been reduced, and it's like, well, they sure didn't count the Cowboys injuries, nor did it stop any in infections from Corona either. Maybe seems like, yeah, the guy still got it regardless.

So I don't know. Did the letter point out that they were going to take care of the poor guy from Denver that was working on his own and tours Achilles and then now they're now they're offended that Broncos would have the nerve to say, well, we're not covering this contract. And then they released the guy, They released John James, and then not only that, and then they had another guy get hurt. Well about the week they had no quarterback playing at all right during the season.

During the season. I mean, so when you're talking about it didn't affect the teams at all. I mean, I don't know about OTAs and doing the regular season, but I'd say everything was affected last season. You can't say that anything really whooked to our satisfaction. Injuries and infections. This was JC Trenor yeah, oh yeah, oh yeah, he's got a job and did you but this he wrote this,

It was published yesterday day. It's a new one, May seventeenth, okay, as we begin phase two of the off season today, okay, And this, of course is phase two Mickey alluded to off the top, where the coaches can actually work with the players and so forth. It's important to view the program from the player's perspective. The end of the regular season to the beginning of training camp spans twenty nine weeks.

Many people suggest that players should participate in their team's off season program to avoid any risk of non football injury. But if players were truly to eliminate all risks NFI during the off season, it would mean only training for those nine weeks when we have protection at the facility. I'm going to move on down here as it relates to what you were just talking. Last year was the first time most players got to experience not attending in

person off season programming. For many, it was eye opening. This is gonna get this is gonna get this is gonna get going here players felt better physically and mentally in the injury data supports those anecdotes. Now, as we stare down the start of the twenty twenty one season, players are realizing they do actually have a choice in how they prepare for the season, and that the voluntary

offseason program truly is voluntary. One might say more players than ever are making business decisions about this nine week period in a way that they never have before. Less than half of all NFL players showed up for Phase one, and players and players on more than half the teams in the league of negotiated new rules for the remaining voluntary workout periods. When the public starts taking attendance today meaning yesterday, I hope it's noted that players who are

attending will be doing it on their terms. Our player leaders proposed changes to their team's programs, such as shortening the number of weeks of the offseason program and decreasing the number of practices, as well as decreasing intensity by converting practice to walk throughs and removing eleven on eleven periods. These are significant improvements for our membership. Players are now

viewing the offseason the way our union intended. Each individual player has the right to decide, is my team's program a valuable enough experience to me that it's worth volunteering my off time to participate, considering the CBA to find offseason The majority of players answer that question with a resounding no. The onus then shifts to each individual team to create a new offseason program that will cause a

player to answer that question with a yes. The league office has shown zero leadership on the subject, so there is no uniformity across the NFL, putting gms and coaches in a tough spot. There's one more paragraph here. The NFLPA will continue to support our players and exercising the rights our union has earned for them, even when it's not popular among the public. It is a win in itself that for the first time in a long time, players truly like they have a choice as to whether

they attend voluntary offseason practices. Um I do recall us making many jokes back in the day about OTAs or we call them just many camps back in the day, mandatory or not right, And Tom would always say, well, it's it's you know, voluntary, but you should show up, and you're gonna show up. So if this regard, I can see how the Player Association is saying, Okay, we finally have a chance to flex our muscle and have

some decisions. As far as some decision making power in this situation, I can see them using this as an opportunity for that. However, would I beg to differ. Injuries and infections still ran rampant last year, and I don't know if the OTAs had jack to do with that. I really have to say that, you gotta I think that OTAs and injuries, I don't think it had anything to do with how it ran out during the season.

It was just a kookie year, and this is the Players Association's opportunity to flex their muscles and get get a foot in there as far as decision making this concerns. As far as having the six OTAs rather than the ten, I think that was a part of the compromise that he talked about. Yeah, and we'll see then how many guys show up? What do voluntary mean? Darren Hamburg. So

that's an opportunity for the players Association to flex their muscles. Yeah, and they're trying, they're trying to curry and they're trying to curry favor with the players of course for having a seventeenth game. And it's like, you know, well we got stuff, you know, we got more financial uh considerations for giving them the seventeenth game. And now everybody's seeing the seventeenth game and it's like, oh what what what

do we get? You know, and it's a big pool of money, but it doesn't show up probably in your paycheck, so to me. So where do they think these guys should do their strength and conditioning? They just don't need it. You know, we're going to go back to the seventies when guys did nothing in the odd season, did it

on their own, Yeah, came in on their own. So now doing it on your own is better than doing it here with under under jurisdiction of the trainers and here as you know, Everson uh and you know, Mickey, it's a whole different deal than a lot of other places around the league because it's a great place to live, and you know, and and players will come here and stay in the off season here, and so it's really convenient for the Cowboys and the facility with the facility

here too. But if you're someplace else, you know, other cities in the league, so you don't have to fly in. I get I get that in I get that part. But again, you're telling the whole league to do this. You know now now they want to they want to file a grievance for Juwan James after he tore as Achilles because basically they released them and said, you're on

NFI and we're not responsible for you. You could have been here working out like you were until this stuff came out and the guys decided to stay home and work out on their own. I just think you don't the days of showing up for training camp and getting ready for the season are over right it that's your job. I don't care if it's voluntary or not. For your

own good. You need to be in tip top shape when you report the training camp, not go to training camp like the old days and all of a sudden start. I don't think it's gonna be like that. In regards to that the onness is on the players. If you're going to use this letter as ammunition for whatever your offseason schedule is going to be, then you really have to You have to get your workouts in and it's up to you. I think I could do it if

I played. You know, I would love to come and work out with my guys, but if I would be serious about my workout and I'm gonna be in shape when I get to train the camp, I always was. But I'm a defensive back. You know, wide receivers. We're all about the same running backs. But when you start talking about big guys, start talking about linebackers in linemen,

that's a whole other story. I don't know what it's like to go through an off season without being supervised on your workouts and you're like two hundred and eighty pounds at six feet four inches. To me, that's a different ball game. For small guys like us, we can come in and shape all the time. And I always did see. And my point is the strength and conditioning.

I get backing off on the intensity of the OTAs because I always thought, you know, you put your helmet on, you got a jersey, shorts, you got your cleats on, and you're gonna go out there and you're gonna end up competing, right, and boys will be boys. Right. If I'm out there competing, I'm gonna dive for a pass, right, Well, I ain't got a shoulder pad on, and I'm gonna hurt my shoulder. Or if I'm a dB and I'm gonna try to go up and knock a ball down and I fall, I ain't got a shoulder pad on.

I get backing off on that. There's ways to do those OTAs, and I think Jason Garrett did that last year. They the competition part of it, the physical part of it. Yeah, two years ago. Sorry, they backed off and again you know you're okay, you're supposed to come off the ball, touch and then stop. Well, okay, I'm this undrafted free agent. Well I'm gonna probably give it a little bit more because I got to impress somebody. Right, I get that part.

But you can do the OTAs as almost a walkthrough or a little bit better than a walkthrough without getting physical. But the strength and conditioning thing, I don't stamp because you're gonna go to the health club. Now. Is that safer? Especially if you haven't been vaccinated, Is it safer? Probably not, because you're coming here and they're still kind of testing guys, right, So uh yeah, Well we'll see how this whole thing out. I would call before the pandemic, you had quarterbacks and

other leaders of teams. They would fly in groups of guys and they would all work out together, sometimes on different teams. Well, we'll all work out there, like if they went to the same school with the same college, like UT guys get their workouts, you know, cal Berkeley guys, they will all get together in Oakland get their workouts and things of that nature. Which that's very, very beneficial for specialist guys. Once again, we're talking wide receivers, running backs, quarterbacks, dbs.

But when you're talking about the center, when you're talking about a middle linebacker, when you're talking about the defensive end, I don't know where they're going to get that kind of work. And if Back has done that, you know in that month long period between the end of the mini camp and the start of training camp, Attack has gotten his receivers together last back last year, right last year, but he's done it even in previous to last year and that month before just to because I mean, you

got a month off in between. I've never really totally understood why. You know, you've got training camp starting on July twentieth, Why are you shutting it down on June twentieth and giving him a month off to get out of shape period? Until it should be the other way around, you know, you know, I understand, given some time, but give him a couple of weeks. You know, the thing always took a couple of weeks before training camp has

always taking least a week or a couple of weeks before. Yeah, So I could see the whole offseason program getting pushed back to the point where you're leading up more to the season. You know, maybe that would eliminate and then that would eliminate the slower start to training camp because you remember last year or the year before, you had to have those three or four kind of acclamation days

before you actually practice football. Have you ever heard of a big, a group of big defensive linemen and linebackers getting together having them Yeah? Who leaving no backyard work? Who's leaving that sack Martin's place? Come on, guys, I got a football field back I got in ten yards. That's all we need. We can just dig up a

bunch of dirt and have something. But I think we saw an example of it last year on this team, the lack of the offseason program with a bigger guy like Don Terry po I think Don Terry Poe would have been in much better shape to start the season if there was an offseason program. Now he was. He was terrible the year before. Don't bring that, it's just

to kick somebody else, pick somebody. I agree, though, you you have to um, you have to know that the different positions, they have to be treated in a in a certain manner. And like I said, the big guys, they're the ones that are gonna suffer. The are the ones that suffered here. I don't know about the round the league, but we know that we had major problems with our big guys, especially offensive lineman. You know, we're

still worried about our offensive tackle. Hopefully they look good, you know, they look coming up, they look real good. They look good. They look good now. And because now they're together, you know, I don't know what it would have been like last year at this time, you know, considering that they couldn't get together that much. So this year is going to be different. Uh, you know, protocol is being laxed a little bit more now. And I'm very surprised that this letter came out and that it is.

It helds so many restrictions for the teams. It changed. It changed the tune because previously it was worried about COVID. He didn't mention any Now you noticed that that was very carefully worried letter. Yeah, it was now about you can see this is their opportunity to flex the muscle. They're just using this right now as just a starting point to where, hey, we got your players backs. You know,

this is why you pay your your dude union stuff. Well, and it's also trying to uh provide some points that see the owners didn't win on this, right, right, we had our way. What's important? Ever, have you ever been in a I know you have. Have you ever been in a union? So summers when I was in college, I worked at a factory and we had to join the union every summer because it didn't carry over to the next summer, right, And the union was pretty strong. Yeah,

And it was like a steel door factory. We made steel doors, and I saw guys just jacking around, right. Well, the union would support them. They couldn't, you know, they couldn't suspend them, couldn't fire them. And it's like, how come this guy's not working? And then something had happened. They go run to the union, right, right, So my last year before my senior year in college, they go on strike, and I'm going, I need to make money.

I don't need to strike because when you return and get better pay in September, I'm not here, right, And so we had to to earn strike pay, and I think we got like one hundred and thirty dollars a week. We had to go out on the picket line, right and sit out there for however many hours, and people are driving by. Yeah, you lazy bums go to work and I'm sitting there going like I want to work.

They won't let me, you know. And when they went on strike, when they went on strike, and it was like a midnight thing, it was it was like a party. They were celebrating and everybody who's drinking beer sitting on didn't have a barbecuegree all out there. Oh yeah, yeah, it was like an episode of the King of Queens, just like but even when we did it, Yeah, there's a difference between I've been through two strikes, right, and so in eighty two, yeah, I'm still twenty two years old.

You know, I was still on my little free agent contracts, still living the home of my mom, the home of my mom in Hempton Park, and so you know that's strike. That's why you had fourteen inners. Oh mom had. It's very that's very true, Bill. But what what I had was it was a casual, you know, strike for me

because I'm still at home with my mom. So it's not like the bills are just you know, in the dating me, I'm not even thinking about what Drew Pierce is going through, Harvey Martin's going through, Bob Brune is going through, you know, Danny White's going through. These guys have families and bills. Well, I found that out in eighty seven when I was the union rep here in Dallas. Now I got my two kids, you know, I got a a house, note two cars, you know, and it's

a different story. Your mentality going into a strike is totally different than when you're just a twenty two year old just kind of at that channel. Oh oh, we don't strike. To me, it's a break, it's a vacation. Yeah, I'm still living house people. I'm going hanging out with my boys. You know, I have no bills. Mentality its totally different anymore. Eighty seven, you missed three or four paychecks.

Then in eighty seven, yeah, we went. We we went three games, yes, and there was one week nothing happened, right right, Yeah. And then in eighty two I was called after we came back from the strike. I believe we got a check when we came back for missing Yeah. Really, yeah, we did a small check. It wasn't it didn't cover everything, but it was a small check for that. We got nothing like that in eighty seven. And you talk about union meetings back then, could you imagine trying to say

something against Gene Upshaw. You know he wants to fight you right there in the meeting. I don't know if that was going on with you guys, but you know, it's like football practice in the meetings. You you say something out of line. Hey, hey, wait a minute, I'm a union I'm a union guy. Can you please ask the question? You know, it was it was still the wild wild in the newspaper reporters union. There wasn't a Gene up show. We had a guild that we didn't

have notice. Yeah, I don't know what's worse there. Yeah, and they did nothing, I guarantee you, and I'll never forget the day when when Techs walked out there where the guys were picketing, and he wanted to argue with you guys about what do you do? And he would try to talk sense in every or his sense and to everybody. It was the funniest thing you ever seen. It was like Winston Churchill came out to make this speech, you know, and these guys were naboy throwing stones at

the bus when the replacement players came in and rocking it. Now, that was that nineteen eighty seven strike was the most unique moment. I mean it was you know how it is if it drags off for a long time, you know, the enthusiasm kind of wanes a little bit. So you went, we went out. We went from like you said, you know, everybody out there a party and having a good time, and the energy levels up and you know they're scabbing And remember Tony Dust, said Captain Scabb to Randy White

next day. The next day he asked the crossover at the other captain's camp because of his contract. Yes, well, let's be real that that had nothing to do with it, because I had the same contract, did you. Let's not get into that. I'm set that spect. Let's not get into it. We're not getting into that contract, No way, not doing it. Was such a great theater too well, and they they they they incorporated the neighborhood. People came in and helped carry signs that were living out there

in those apartments that lasted. Next thing you know, I'm out there by myself. I'm selling cigarettes or something. TV TV cameras were gone, and they were gone. Everybody was gone. And the only phot the only confrontation I remember was Randy White pulled into a Don's Smerick right in his truck and they uh, door set and I don't know who that got in front of the truck. They were

going to stop him from going in, right. He he he puts the thing in neutral, right, and he starts reving the engine and all of a sudden he pops the clutch. That big old truck. Jump stop those guys, scatter. I just saw yesterday the golf. We had some good, good talks, but now those weren't the good times. At all, not at all. All right, Hey, we have to take a break. We have to take a break. And what do you think about taking phone calls for the first time in over a year? The ones like a year

and a half. Well, let's new shots. Okay, it would be the first time ever on mix shots because mick Shots became mix Shots last year, right, I think we maybe maybe we had no No, we didn't leading up to we were all virtual everything. The first ever phone call on mix shots coming up eight eight eight eight five five two two nine seven when mix Shots continues, relatives, Yeah, and guests who forgot big news? Scary you? Okay? Oh

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home Monday, September twenty seventh against the Philadelphia. You've got a printed up schedule right there, all right, you need one, I can get you. I don't have mine with me right now. I don't have it memorized, So okay, I'm looking Cowboys, okay quickly, since it's already been hashed and rehashed.

What sticks out to you on the schedule um the fact that they've got to do that three games in twelve days again around Thanksgiving and and starting and then starting with that away game the Sunday before Thanksgiving in Kansas City. They've got to play four away games in five games. That is it, Spags. I'm looking at it right now. I saw it this morning and I'm thinking that's gonna be a problem. I mean, you got the home game versus the Raiders. Great, that's Thanksgiving Day, but

that's it. That's it. And you got to play a dark night game in New Orleans, the worst place in the world to play a night the worst place in the world to play a game. That doesn't matter who's playing quarterback, not the Saints. That that I told you guys. It sounds the people start to sound like an engine. It's like they just transform into some some engine that just you can get louder and louder. It can have John four Cade playing for him. It doesn't matter John

four Cade. Remember that. At first I didn't, but now it's coming back to me a little bit. What era was John four Cade? So he was at Old miss when I was in Jackson, Mississippi. He was the quarterback in the early early eighties. I remember intercepted him and then he ended up being on I don't know if they had practice squads or whatever. And then at the one year he had to be the quarterback there for

the Saints. And honestly say, as this day began, I didn't he didn't think up well, I got a name that I want to bring up before we get to the mini camps. Did anybody watch the FCS Championship games Sam Houston State against Sale of the game, I saw the game winning touchdown, all right. There is a wide receiver at sam Houston State that transferred from Howard University, Jaches Ezzard. He was a player of the game. He was the MVP. He was the MVP of the semifinal game.

The semifinal game, I think he had two receptions for touchdowns and he had a kickoff return for a touchdown. And in this game he had two catches for touchdown. Ten catches for one hundred and eight yards. Uh two were for touchdowns in the game, and he returned a punt for a touchdown that got called back by a BS block in the back. This guy, he's he's five nine one ninety two and he runs a four four three and they can't cover him. They had to double him.

And that's why the guy that caught the touchdown, I think, day a day, that's why. And he the quarterback. Schmid drilled it between three guys, right, but they're worried about this ball going going to dezard Uh. Even before they got into that, he could have scored. The quarterback Smith went to the wrong receipt right because he was wide open the back of the end on the end cut. I don't know what he was looking at. You know,

that's the guy you gotta look at. Right the quarterback anticipate that he would be double and the safety went with the other guy right there. And also and also on that last drive to set up the touchdown, he caught the pass on fourth down coming back diving on that past he's diving here. The ball comes this and he almost had another touchdown with a one handed behind the back catch that he didn't hold on to quite long enough. Although the coach exhausted, right, he was exhausted.

So I checked I checked him out. He's he played this year as a grad student student assist. He's got an eligibility a grad transfer. Uh, he can have one more year of eligibility, can they all can? Or if if he decides not to and looks like he would go into the supplemental It was my question yeah, so he could not check that out supplemental draft or what he also could do he could transfer to Alabama and

win the Heisman troll, right and get another year. Yeah, so I don't know if you can do that second transfer like that, but he's got another year of eligibility to do that. So, I mean, they just change the rules where everybody can transfer, and this is a guy that he's a graduate student, he's immediately eligible. Everyone can transfer. This whole transfer portal has just changed the whole So

check this out. In twenty seventeen at Howard, thirty four catches eight ninety five, he averaged twenty six point three yards a catch, and in twenty eighteen, forty catches for one thousand and sixty four average twenty six point six yards a catch at twelve touchdowns. Twelve touchdowns. So the question is, and nobody recruited him from an SBS school, all right, nobody? So what would you do if you had his choice? There? Okay, you can you can go

make yourself eligible for the supplemental draft in July. Okay, And obviously the rules on the supplemental draft to team, it's the same draft order as this year. But teams would you would give up? Like, for instance, if you wanted to draft him in the first round, you give up your first round pick for next spring. Okay, would Jacksonville do that and add him to the Arsenal for Trevor Lawrence with the top pick? I doubt it. I

don't know if Jacksonville will do it. But if I'm the player, if you're the player, do you think you were the first championship and I was the VP? You gotta strike while the iron is hot, yes, and you can't wait for another season like this lightning in the bottom again to happen. I don't know what's going with the quarterback. Is he coming back? How many players are coming back? How many would turn it? Can they repeat?

I'm not going to back any that al I did. Right, Well, you need to go down to Sam Houston State and advise this kid. Should he should come out right now? Strike while it's hot and regardless of what happens. Don't you know I went undrafted free agent. If I'm bald him like this kid, I'm going to come in and make somebody's team. That's just all this to it. So so I'm thinking if supplemental draft I would give up a third for him, I'd take a chance on a third. Oh,

I was definitely, he's definitely. What about the teams that have multiple first and second round draft picks? And if you have that, yeah, absolutely, And who who did the trade to got all the draft picks? It wasn't Miami, was it Miami? They traded around? Yeah, yeah, yeah, Miami did, because that's who San Francisco traded up with. And then they moved back up to six with Philadelphia, but they

still have probably multiple picks for next year. And then the quarterback trade um with Darnelda right vitud So if I had, if I had an extra one, I'm telling you what they were comparing him to Steve Smith Senior. It's kind of like strong legs, you know, a great balance. It's kind of like what the Cowboys were looking at when they traded for Amari Cooper. Okay, you're giving up your first round draft pick next year or for now. This is an established player, already established as a Pro Bowl.

But on the flip side of that, you knew within just over a year's time you're about to have to pay him one hundred million dollars. Now with this guy, if you use a let's say you used a first round draft pick on him. You have him not only for this season, but for four more years at a relatively decent price. It's not free agent money, you know. And if you evaluate him as a guy that he's your first round pick, you're getting him six months early.

You're getting in a season early. Yeah, no, absolute, why not use it for if he if you evaluate him as a first round pick, then why not use your first round pick next year? I was just, let's be real impressed. They put the best defensive back on him, yes, all over the fat, yes, and he made him look pretty bad. So if you're the Cowboys, Michael Gallop is a free agent after next year, I don't think you can afford a first or a second, but I do a third. You know what I would do leave Michael

Gallup alone. I would do, you know what, even with this guy's my special team's returner, right, and I got another special team's job that that should be filled. Michael Parsons should be the punt protector because I'm gonna snap

him the ball and let him run. They were stuff, So they were doing a drill out here, and it was kind of a special teams deal where they were trying to simulate tackling, and so once you did that, then you had to go to the other line and you had to take the ball and run and the guy had to try to raise up with you. Right, he put a move on one poor guy. No paths, right, but he put this move on this guy. And I'm going, well, that's why in high school he ran for twelve hundred

yards as a junior. We'll see. Now that's not fair either. I must say my first drill. Okay, as a Dallas Cowboy, we're working on covering out routes his defensive backs. I don't know who swipp flip the switch. But when I get up there, all of a sudden, instead of ain't going down and out like the other twenty five other guys did, they want to come out and up? Come on, man,

what's going on? Then Gene stalls in my face, calling me a boy, and all of this, like, okay, it was extremely unnecessary that I bet was No, No, it was should not do that. Whatever it was, whatever they were doing. Do you remember who the receiver was? It didn't matter, he didn't make the team. I'm still here. I'm still here for years. I'm still here, Okay, minicamp, miniamp, tell me about miniamper So, just you know, looking at

the draft choices, the guys they drafted looked apart. Now I don't know how well they're going to play there out there in shorts and whatever, but they looked apart. Michael Parsons looks like a linebacker. He moves like a linebacker. And when they went to very short session of Lebanon eleven, uh and then seven on seven. The eleven on leven was mostly running run game, and he has this ability with all that muck in front of him to see the angle, where to go to find the ball players,

the ball carrier. It was, it was, it was just it was amazing to watch, right, and he was always kind of like in this right spot at the right time the other thing, and maybe this is the way it's supposed to be. But when they were doing individual drills, first one in line, every time you go behind me. The best part about it when they went to their position drills, There's only three linebackers out there, so it was like private lessons, right, and guess who was running

the linebacker drills. George Edwards defensive assistant last year, right or consulted whatever they called him. He was taking care of the linebackers. So I noticed that right away, very vocal running the drills. Dan Quinn was working with the defensive lineman the whole time. Whatever they were doing, he was down there. And by the way, he's got a pretty good nickname that I think he should get some advertisement for it, because they call him d Q. Okay,

I told you that last week. DQ. That's what'd be calling these draft picks, the DQ do Derry Quayenne advertisement right there. Well, the guys and q do. The guys have picked up on him because when they referred to him as yeah, well d Q said, and it's like d Q uh so, yeah, he was running those drills. But the guys looked the part uh Kelvin Joseph. He looks like a cornerback. And and and he's really quick.

Anybody wearing number twenty four, yeah right, And he had the right number, twenty four okay, okay, okay, And and he just runs a lot faster than idea. And he you know, he didn't have the big interception or twenty four. He was covering. He was covering guys. They they didn't get past him. Um, he's running. He's running like what low for threes? Yeah? Yeah, at four two nine. I see that. It's not just the speed though, it's the it's the hip movement right, and he's he's very fluid.

That's what you want. Jabril Cox fourth. I don't know how this guy lasted to the fourth round. I mean he told you what he's like. Uh, linebacker. They had him on the week side Michael Parsons as the middle and when they went seven on seven, Um, they there was a deep pass, the ball got tipped and Cox caught it. He picked it up and they were thirty yards down field, So he dropped that far with those receivers.

Think about where they played. You know, you played in the SEC, right, and you're looking at balls going down the field. You're accustomed to that. This is nothing new for you. You know you're gonna get in the way of plays. And when you have a linebacker that's a customer being down the field the way he did all season his whole career in LSU, playing against all these SEC teams, it's nothing new to him. Ball skills or something that's that's it's something he had to have the start.

He played one year at LSU. He was at North Dakota State before that, playing up the road in Frisco and nationale hip and three years and three years and so he's an example of a guy getting back to that wide receiver from sam Houston State. He's here's an example of a guy who played winning national championships at the FCS level and then during COVID decides, okay, I'll go ahead and transferred national champion. And what'd that do for his draft stock? Nothing? He got drafted in the

fourth round. Well, he looks the part, and the other guy that looks the part is quintin Bohanna. I was looking for some dump truck to come in there, run Terry. Well, yeah, there there you go. And that's said because Don Terry was so good God coming out of college. Please. So he's six four six four, three thirty or three twenty seven whatever. He probably ate breakfast and he's three thirty and it's a good three thirty and he can move.

And we need this guy to be good because he's a great interview, right, somebody at somebody asking him about clogging up the middle and whatever. He goes, Oh man, he goes, linebackers love me, you know. And he was just everything that everything that he that he that he had to say, it was somewhat funny. Uh. And they were talking about, well, what do you need to prove on He goes, well, I got to get stronger. He goes,

I was strong in college. Now I got to get NFL strong and and so he understands it, uh, and talk about private lessons because he was the only like nose tackle that they had to work with, right, oci O Digazuo is a three technique, but yeah, this Bohannan guy keeping and he kind of dinged his shoulder. Uh. And he came out and they didn't have another defensive tackle to go in there. So d Q turns his hat around and goes and plays nose tackle right and always do a stand up and go like this. Right.

They asked Bohannah about it, and he goes, yeah, he goes, you know these coaches, they get older and they still think they go back to the old days. Right. And then he went back in right a couple of plays later and he goes, yeah, he goes, I had to go get DQ and tap him out. Tell me about the kids from Kentucky. How do you look the other kid? Bohannah's from Kentucky. But right, Joseph was a guy I was talking about twenty Yeah, and I'll tell you another

guy who looks the part is the Chauncey Golston. He's long, I mean, his arms are forever. He's tall, slender, and he's pretty quick. They had him working at right right defensive end and you know, he said, I can play both whatever you whatever you want, I'm being on that defensive end side. He's more. I think he's he's a defense the way his legs are built, it's a defensive line. He's too he I think at the at the Pro day he was two seventy. He got down to two seventy.

I think he played more at two seventy. That's good. So, I mean he's kind of Tyrone Crawford as far as what his commensions were coming out of college, you know. And then the guy that everybody was so worried about because they took him in the third round, Nashan. Right, he's tall, he's skinny, but he can move and he was interviews to his interview was great, and he's been having this back and forth thing with Richard sh Yeah, right, yeah,

what is going on? Well, he said he noticed that what the media made a big deal of him, saying, I'm, you know, more more athletic. And he goes, and I didn't mean anything by it, So he goes, I made sure. I don't know if it was Instagram. He said, yeah, he said, m m hey, no offense. Yeah, and and Sherman was evidently okay with him. All I understand, but he could move. You asked about hip hips. Oh my, so he broke up one pass and again, take this

for what it's worth. He's playing against guys that aren't going to be in the league, right. The two quarterbacks were basically here on a tryout basis, And the reason they were here on a tryout basis is they needed a quarterback to do mini camp because they wouldn't let dnut. They thought Denucci would be able to be eligible and he wasn't, so they brought those two guys in. And the receivers you know who know. And the wind is blowing on Saturday. They may have a problem out there

with a wind tunnel away. The new building is there, but anyway, he makes a diving interception and and and I liked what he had to say afterwards, and he goes, yeah, he goes, you know, I make the diving interception and you know, I'm I'm used to being down. He goes, I had to think, Oh, I can get up and run, and he did. So keep an eye on this guy because you know, if if you need a guy to body up any and he can run, that's a tall guy to get the pass over. If he's cover actually

knows who he's covering and what to do. To me, what's as important is just having the mindset and the culture to change. Because they talked about it, cowboys are looking for more playmaking defensive backs. Well, how do we get to this position to where we don't have any playmaking defensive back? And they don't mean tackling, they don't mean making plays on the running back. We're talking about making plays on the ball deep down the field. We're

talking about recognition by safety. Instead of him being caught up on a twenty yard incut, you have to be ready for that post route that's coming behind you. So the recognition of the schemes that are becoming at you, that's what's important. It's not about you know how fast you can run and what you're looking drills? Can you make plays on the ball. That's the culture that needs to be continued. I'm sorry it was continued, it was discontinued.

That's the culture that needs to begin again around him, the one, the one undrafted free agent. Can we save it for the next segment. Okay? Remember that? Okay, that's our tea. I better writing down one undrafted remember three two minutes the next Everson Walls undrafted free agent. Okay, and Gary Jackie Flash requested that we give the phone number again because we were a little quick on it the first time. Eight eight eight eight five five two

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Cowboys dot com slash United for detail. All right, before we forget, we need the undrafted rookie that caught Mickey's eye at Rookie Minicamp over the weekend, and it just happened to be a defensive back. It was a safety from Purdue, Tyler Coyle, six foot two oh nine, undrafted. He looked like he knew what he was doing back there, so we'll keep an eye on him. Also, one of the guys I didn't mention Mukuamu. Is that how I say,

Israel Mukamu you can call him is he is? He six four two twelve and they moved him to safety, and he looked like a safety. I mean he was fluid and his physical presence was pretty impressive. So keep an eye on those two safeties. I like him, And yeah, I don't think many people knew about him because J. C. Horne played opposite him at South South Carolina, right, and so when you watch jac Horne you probably saw him

in practice. It must have had a great defense in South Carolina, right, Yeah, they got a good defense, got a great defensive backfield didn't work out, didn't really work out for them, as far as I was going to say, they weren't very good. Now, the running back that we were talking about for South Dakota State, his name is Davis Isaiah, and he's a freshman from Joplin, Missouri. One hundred and seventy eight yards on fourteen carries and that eighty five yard go ahead touchdown. I had a feeling

it wouldn't be enough. I just knew it. And the way the game was going and the announcers, oh, they backed him up. They got a long way to go. It's like, no, it only takes one place. Now, the eighty five yard was amazing. This is a kid here, he's a true refreshman. If I'm not mistaken. Now, that was a very good runner and a very good ball game. Don't sleep on the I still say one double at a class, guys, that's you got a lot of heart

coming from thost. I finally remember the acronym, so I can say FCS now with you know, because I never knew is a FBS. It's so FCS. I got it. I'm moving on from one double A and I tell you, guys, I have to go back to this schedule. And we started talking about how it was around Thanksgiving, coming out of Thanksgiving, and that that stretch of the three games twelve days. So you're still looking at three NFC East games in a row, two against Washington UH and one

against the Giants in New York. So two of those three games on the road. That part right there just makes me extremely nervous for the last five or against the East. There goes the Eagles, Yes, there go the Eagles as the last game. All right, let's get more in the draft here. In a second. But we've got Philip from France. All right, Hi, how you doing? We are good? Okay. I'd like to say one one thing to mister Walter. I wish to see you soon in Campton. I'm not um old enough to watch you play, but

I do some research and I love it. I just very quick questions after this rookie minicamp, how many UM of our rookies or drafted rookies we'll make the team UM for next season? Thanks for taking Michael, take care and be safe. Bye bye, thank you. What does Philip good for being the first ever caller on BIX shots? Uh? Do we have any awards that we can calls? We didn't know we had listeners lessons? Yes, right, let's come up with something. So how many of these draft picks

make the final roster? Well, I was thinking if out of eleven, if you can get seven to make the team, that's pretty good. And then get practice squads too. Yeah, and a couple of practice squads, I would think, you know, unless somebody they get released and somebody picks them up. You know they think we're talking. Yeah, I think all elevens. You got Tyler Coyle making me too. As the undrafted safety. He's going to knock off one of those veterans in

a one year deal. We'll see how how well he does when se that big boys, we're talking draft picks, but also, like you said, undrafted free agents. One of them might just slip in there. Yeah, so yeah, I could see. We got we got two undrafted free agents going to the Hall of Fame, so come on, yeah, we gotta give them some tried, tried. And speaking of that, the Cowboys opened the preseason against the Pittsburgh Steelers in the Hall of Fame game on August fifth. Man, you

tell me the famers. Oh my god, Cowboys in Steelers. Yeah, man, yea. And your buddy Jimmy Johnson's going into Ja Jaj's going in. You know. We talked man, me and Jimmy. Cool. Yeah, we talked. You got a hold of them. I got a hold of them. Yeah right, that was interesting. Good. We'll talk about that. Actually, he yeah, we saved that for next week. Yeah, next Tuesday. What I'm here? Yeah,

that's right, not the following Tuesday. Thursday, Yeah, Thursday. But the other thing on those drafted players and one of the reasons that the Stephen Jones cited that they wanted to go ahead and use those draft picks is because of where where they are with the salary cap, and so these drafted players have a better chance. There's more of them that have a better chance of making the team this year than in past years because of where

they are in the salary cat they're squeezed. Yeah, and they would have to knock off somebody that's you know, the salary based salary. I mean you could say five thousand dollars if you if a rookie, you know, a sixth round draft Bohannah makes the roster, and you release a guy that's making you know, a veteran minimum of one point one million. Well, and and if you look at it, though, the two guys they signed in free agency, right Carlos Watkins and Brett Urban. Watkins is in his

fifth year and Urban is eight years. But after that, Terrell Basham, he got a little bit of money, he got more money, and then the rest of the guys they might knock off. I might be a second year guy. So it's not really like you're saving who heck of life. They don't have, Like there's no Um Thomas the linebacker, the veteran last year, like he's not Joe's not here anymore. So they already got rid of Antoine Woods and Woods

is gone. So there's a reason that Woods was let go because they took care of their business in the draft getting these defensive linemen, so that that move was made then and then guys like Noah Brown and and Um Wilson, Cedric Wilson, who's would make the same amount as Woods was. If you're the fourth and fifth wide receiver, better be careful because you never know if Hooku can play or he's worth keeping, or if you have a rookie free agent that can come in and take your spot.

And you save a million dollars because when I looked at the salary cap, every millions going to count. You know, it's not like you say, oh, it's only a million. See, that's where the Cowboys are out on the Sam Houston statewide receiver US using next year's first round pick because you have to pay a money this year. They don't. They don't have the money to spend the first round pick. In the third round, fourth round, you will be able to.

But again, those are blind drafts, like you write down I want and we wanted fourth and then however, the order is the you know what's like bidding on a house, right, that's right? All right? One more thing on the schedule, Um, Cowboys go to New England on October seventeenth. Who will the starting quarterback be for the Patriots in that game? The Patriots now have what's the date? A game that's October seventeenth, six sixth game of the season, sixth game

of the season. The Patriots yesterday signed Brian Hoyer. So now they've got Cam Newton, their first round pick, Mac Jones, Jared Stidham, and Brian Hoyer their four quarterbacks in camp. So who's going to be playing quarterback for the Patriots when the Cowboys go in there on Sunday October seventeenth. I still see Cam Newton, Mac Jones. Why they signed Brian Hoyer? Maybe so the Cowboys don't get them? Oh so nicky Nicky says, the Cowboys are still in the

marketing for a backup. Oh, I think they are. I think they should be. I think they're waiting for somebody like that to get released. You don't jump the gun here, but you want them, you want them now. If it's a veteran, veteran doesn't matter. It doesn't matter. You like them for the start of training camp, not the end of training kiss. Yes, And that's when most of those guys will get released. At the end of training Well, Andy Dalton got released this week last it was the

week after the draft, Joe Burrow. But somebody, I would think some of these other teams are going to release. How much money do you have to spend on it at that point if you don't have a job? Two million, a million and a half. I mean, the Cowboys have two million to spend quarterback. They could make that okay,

because they're gonna ask my question. They're gonna have because because I was I was saying, you know, AJ McCarron had a history with nuss Meyer at Alabama, and I thought, okay, a J. McCarron might be a guy that they could bring in. Not that he's got many NFL skins on the wall to speak of, but he got signed by Atlanta for one point two million dollars, So that was the market. That's the market for those quarterbacks now. Yeah, and especially the closer you get the training camp and

you don't have a job. One point two looks good. But the Cowboys are sitting there with four quarterbacks. Yeah, you know, with with Dak and Garrett Gilbert and Danucci and Cooper Rush. Okay, and you don't want you don't need five quarterbacks in camp. No, so somebody would get somebody would go, would get released. If you got a veteran that's kind of proven that you think, Okay, this this guy. While you're gonna say there's competition, he's probably

my guy. So yeah, I mean, Jacksonville has a bunch of quarterbacks now, and they had signed h Blaine Gabbert, who was their backup last Papa Bay. Tampa Bay. I'm sorry, Tampa Bay. Yeah, yeah, Tampa Bay's got a bunch, and they had signed another guy the week before, Ryan I think, Bryan Griffin. I think, yeah, that's it. Yeah, so yeah, they may release one of those guys and you never know. Um and there was another veteran that just got signed um Well. And then Tampa also drafted Kyle Trask, the

rocky second round draft pick out of Florida. So yeah, some of these, some of these guys, they're gonna there's definitely gonna be quarterbacks available at the end of training camp, and I would imagine kind of, you know, betting on that right now and just kind of say, okay, let's hold tight. We got enough to go to training camp. But if something happens, here's what we can do. Okay, that does it for this edition to Mix Shots. I can't wait till next week's show where we get to

hear about Everson's conversation with Jimmy Johnson. Oh boy, that's a great tease. Don't miss this, all right, Remember we get Jimmy to join us and they can. Please, we'll see it and we'll see what kind of what kind of pull Everson has. You guys want it. I did it to make the moves. I'm here. You get Jimmy. I'll still be here, so y'all make the move. Don't put anything on me. Hey, we'll tell him. We'll put him in the Mix Shots Ring of Honor. That's right,

you know, that's right. And Philippe goes into the Ring of and we need to talk about about the Hall of Famer, that's right. Yeah, okay, No, that would be very cool. Yeah, him about the Hall of Fame. Yeah, maybe someone who's recently talked to him could ask you into okay. We continue with more mix shots next Tuesday at eleven thirty, where we will take more of your mini phone calls. I'm not coming up next week. I'm not. Yeah,

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