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Mick Shots: Open Season

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Here we go, breaking news on the franchise deadline for Tony Pollard and possibilities for long-term deals. The restricted tender for Terence Steele and potential long-term deals. Plus, other unrestricted free agents the Cowboys must consider.

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The following Here's a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club Cowboys. This is Nick Shot screaming live on Dallas Cowboys dot Com and the official Dallas Cowboys at now Here are Bill Jones, Everson Wolves, and Nicky Spagnola. And this is the second most wonderful time of the year that we're inside the SWBC podcast

studio and we're all in agreement. I think that the holiday season is the most wonderful time of the year, but I think this is second best because we're in March and free agency is about to start, and these teams are about to get as symboled and we got so much to talk about on this week's Addicks edition of nick Shots. Additchen it is It isn't somebody here. Don't you just love this time of y Oh? I hate it? Why no? You don't you love those guys

out there on the combine. You love watching the youngsters coming up trying to make a way. I mean, in the next week or so two weeks, right, these teams are going to be put together. We had breaking news this morning. We got a new quarterback for the New Orleans. Yes, we do did they finally get it done or it's there the official it's aficial official, Yeah this morning when I love it? Pends on who said it NFL network. Okay,

that's that's a good source. Yet out all right, it says right now Saints closing in on deal with Derek Carr. There you go, So that's not official. That's why I don't ye stars on both sides of the You gotta figure out who you believe. Now. Next Monday is going to be the day when all of this happens because that's when the negotiating period opens next month. So how are we gonna do the show next week? I mean, we do the show right when the negotiating window opens?

Is that what time? And basically I think, yeah, yea, we miss everything. It's like we're gonna be right on top of this time because all the reports are gonna be coming out. That's right. Oh man, that's gonna be a great show. Now, nothing official, but it's not that this show won't be a great show, that's right. But got a deadline tomorrow I have since this time of year. Yeah, we going back to last year, who did you have

your eye on? In the combines when he had Michael Parson before it's going to be the gas here before Michael Parsons two years ago. I retired after that one. Yeah, you got that right, retire? Yes, yes, I had my eye on that offensive tackle from Tulsa Tyler Smith kidding. Yeah, well, I mean when you look at it, it turns out I should have had my eye on everybody. Shut hell up about him? He was he your guy? Was he one of those guys? Who'd you have that? I have

to remember the book. He's got this book, You got your stuff. You can't remember from last year. I remember better from twenty ten than That's why I to talk to younger people. So yeah, and all the younger people nobody had Tyler Smith. So they didn't. Oh did all this studying for three months? Right, and Tyler Smith probably never passed their leave. He wasn't on anybody's especially sixteeth on anybody's draft. When we chose him. Everyone said that

was a mistake. Yeah, they really did. They didn't believe. That's why they're called so called experts. That's why that's not what they called themselves. That's why this is not the greatest time of year. Well, if you're going with predictions. No, you're right, it is not the greatest time of the year. So who's the who's the Who's that person we had the guy from from Georgia? Was that two years ago? Last year, the last year the first pick in the draft was from Georgia that was Big Walker as Big

then went to Jackson and it might have been this year. Yep, selling Carter some issues could be Yeah, a little controversy. But and I heard maybe not the sharp because well, that's probably why he's in trouble. I mean hopefully it's because he's you know, that's all part of this process is trying to figure out who the sharpest is. So when you look at him, if I'm not mistaken, I saw him doing caught wheels and flips then I see that maybe I'm pretty sure I saw him doing and

then and then make a tackle. No, No, he was just coming out for one month. Now he's Wow, that would be amazing. He's pretty good. He is. Yeah, as a defensive backle Now you got to understand or is he I think he's a three down guy. But is he a three down guy to take at the top of the draft? Um? He said number one overall? Yeah, every every It's not like the car story. No, this is legitimate. They said number one because of the issues

that he had. Now he was gonna be it was just going to be the top four or five teams in the draft. We're really gonna have to study him because he's gonna be long gone. Now, everybody's got to study him because who might fall. That's right lyle Collins, right right. The troubles uh that was, but that the difference on Collins was that it was so close to the draft when it happened that everyone panics. Yeah, and

and teams didn't have time to do their research. But one thing on this is they have time now to figure it all out. So, yeah, we shouldn't talked to him. I'm going free agent, right, Yes, the boy signed him as a he'll he'll never make up that money that he could have had. Which, okay, you bring up loud Collins. Let's get to the news that the decisions that the Cowboys have to make here in the next twenty four hours with franchetline looming with the franchise, tag and Mickey

give us an update on what they're thinking. Well, I'm sure they're thinking that they would like to sign Tony Pollard to a multiple year deal, but it sounded like, after listening to Jerry on Friday from the Combine, that if that doesn't get done, then they indeed will franchise him one year, ten point zero one million dollars guaranteed is the franchise tag to reserve his rights for a running back for a running back, and then they're going to have to coordinate that with what they do with

Ezekiel Elliott, and Jerry said, if he had his druthers both guys, they will resume just what they were doing this year with both guys that he wants them back. Um. You know, Jerry talked about how he gets accused of hanging on to his stars too long. I think people forget he cut Troy Aikman, he cut Emmett Smith. Um. Now, he may have signed guys to an extension maybe too you know, too late in their careers. But but he did cut these guys. He moved on from DeMarcus Ware,

moved on from where. So yeah, somehow he's got this reputation that he hangs on too, moved on from Everson Walls. I was like, hey, Browning over here, Jerry, come on, say me started playing the horn. Good to see you go did well so so But anyway, I think those are you know, the things they've got to decide. And you know, Stephen made it sound like they would use the tag if they have to, uh and if it's not um, if it's not Tony Pollard, they you know,

have other alternatives of what they could do. Although Jerry said, um, you know, I got to decide how important this tight end is going to be in this offense. And interesting Juck supposed that against what those young guys did and what they might be able to do to decide what market value is for Dalton Shoulder. That is that that is to me, that's the most interesting uh story right now? I mean to me and speaking as if I was going to if I was in the owner of the team,

and I see what Polard's going through right now. Franchise, I mean, I'm just gonna be quick about it. I wouldn't think too much on it. Franchising and speaking as a fan, though, it's hard for me to give up Zekiela Elliots. It's hard to me to give zup, not just you know, sentimental value. He had value on this team, still has value in the way he was able to

run the ball and help us move the change. And Jerry, by the way, emphasized that towards the end of the year he was playing through an injury again, so he didn't he's not devaluing his talent like what he's capable

of doing. But they're likely needs to be adjustment on the base salary, which I think they could come to a equitable conclusion on that one on both sides right to not have him with a ten point nine million dollars base salaries, say everybody says he costs him sixteen million, Well third of that is basically the leftover signing on us that and restructure bonus that still needs to be accounted for it. He's already paid him that. It's the

ten point nine that they have to restructure. I'm gonna tell you what's gonna happen, because it's the way the fans are and the media as well. Once Poler starts making big money, then the criticism it's going to be much more hard. And they draft guy this year in the fourth or fifth round, Okay, and now all of a sudden, that guy's gonna be right right. Yeah, they

love us when we're not making any money. You know, we're that hard life story, you know, where that person's fighting from the bottom, he's trying to dig his way out. But once you start making the money, now all of a sudden, you're bougie. You know, you're you're too good for us. You're not You're not that you're not good enough for us because of what we're paying you. Well, I'm looking forward to that changing attitude. That changed the

whole landscape of the NFL. Probably around what would you say nineteen ninety when salaries became almost who was the first public Who was the one to kick it off? Like back in free agency with the Baseball's Mester Smith or somebody like that. Who who would you say kicked it? Or what salary? My butt? That gonna go? Kurt Waters? Well, I mean, come on, as started, but Messter Smith ended

up capitalizing off of it. But when when NFL salaries now they're almost becoming public knowledge, I think that changed how people were at at players because now it wasn't how much you make, it's how well are you playing for? How much you make? I do recall you know when they put it in USA today, but they were they already knew about the salaries, but mis Gary Minds put it in the USA today, and I supplied them with

the with the salaries because there's a union rep. What you had was teams and players were being dishonest about what they were making. You know, if I'm one of the one of text Ram's guys, you know I'm gonna text and I are gonna agree that I'm not making as much as you know everyone says I'm making. I'm

making a hundred thousand less than that. But they went coots and it damaged the relationship with future teammates because now you find out that he's making more when you were negotiating and making less, so that you can, you know, be right there with him. So it probably started then. That was around eight how about eighty six when they signed Herschel too. There's always that's that that one moment kicked everything off. What was it? I want? He got

one hundred thousand? That sounds silly right now, right, That's why I checked myself. Was it a million? No? It was one hundred thousand, right, And they asked Tony Dorset what he thought about it, and Tony Dorset promptly said, I feel like one hundred thousand dollars man, Like, if he's getting that, that's what I does. Yeah, but they that's not what they got. Yeah, it was just a sign to come things to come. So but yeah, you're right, it's it's not how much you make, it's how well

you played with how much. Yeah, that's certainly started that. So we'll see, we'll see what happens. Tomorrow's the deadline on the on the franchise tender. Uh And like I said, and then if they happen to get something done in time with Pollard, then um, you know you could use it elsewhere, although it's pretty expensive to use it on a safety. Fourteen million. I don't think that will sent

that much on a safety. Yeah, Donovan Wilson. So the toughest sign you think would be Wilson versus Sheltz because what you just talked about, what those tight ends is going to be about the same price on a one year deal. Now. Yeah, but he's got a twenty percent increase over last year because if he was the franchise player. But I think what makes it more titilating is you've got two other guys at his position, right the extreme to me extremely valuable to the Cowboys, and Jerry talks

extensively about Okay, you can't have everybody. Now, what do I have with young guys that we have to count on stepping up? Somebody to move in. I guess he could have used Tyler Smith on that after he struggled his rookie year and then when he was forced to start the next year when Lail Collins got hurt, he stepped up and played by the way. I hadn't seen this anywhere else, and just doing research while y'all are talking, this is the thirtieth anniversary of NFL free agency. Wow,

nineteen ninety three is when it started. They had to plan B free agents prior to that from nineteen eighty nine, but the salary captain's start till ninety four. Okay, so that's what changed everything. I think guys ended up. There was a form of free agency in ninety three, right right. Well, Plan B actually was, because that's how Nova, Nova Check and Rob A Walt where the big Plan B free

agent signings. Otherwise I thought this sucked. Well, I think they also so ninety three when when free agency or ninety four, I mean, you were just you just missed it once again. I came along too soon that summer. All all came around, well, James Washington Plan, if I remember correctly, I think they brought in like twenty guys that year when Plan I started. And back then you could protect a certain number of players thirty some thirty seven or something like that, and then the others were

subject to which also caused problems because feelings got hurt. Right, Oh, you didn't think I was good enough to protect and then and then no one picked you up. And okay, glad to be here. He's always watch what you wish for, right, you just might get it? Yeah, absolutely? And the other the uh landmark when you talk sports contracts, the landmark milestone contract was Kirby puckets uh in about eight he was the first three million dollar player. He's climbing the wall.

Three million dollars a year. That was It wasn't a Yankee, Yeah, that's usually. It was especially surprising a Minnesota twin would be the one of all time. All right about Terren Steele, Yeah, and it's been reported that they will use the second round tender on Terren Steel as a restricted free agent. That'll cost him four point three million on that one

year deal. But again you can negotiate out of that. Uh. And you know, still there's no restriction on signing those guys to a long term deal, so you can always do that with the restricted guys. So we'll see what happened. So are you surprised they went with the second round tender instead of a first round tender? So I thought that was yeah, because I think somebody said they went with it is an official. Yeah, that would somebody give up a second round pick to sign him to a

long term deal. Maybe, But again, he's coming off that ACL and they can say, oh, he's ahead of schedule. How do you know it's two months right? Where are we at March sixth? His surgery was mid December, two and a half months. They're trying to get him back

for the beginning of the season. Correct, Yeah, that's what they're But since he is a free agent, a restricted free agent at that a team would bring him in and check him out and see he is doing some team with a gob of money, and then of course the Cowboys would have the opportunat Yeah, he might receive out there and if they let him go, then they get a second round draft pick back forth, and I figured out that how about this, with still starting the

first thirteen games last year, the Cowboys at least averaged four yards a carry in each of those games, or in those games at ten times ten of the thirteen Okay, in the final four regular season games with him missing, they never averaged more than three point eight and in the last two games two seven and two four. And

that continued in the playoffs. So I don't know if this is coincidence or not, but in the playoffs it was three to seven against Tampa Bay and three to five in the loss to San Francisco, and they got to three to five against San Francisco. Thaks to Dak carrying the ball four times for twenty two yards, so he averaged over five yards to carry. So they struggled to run the football when he wasn't in there. You started,

but you had Tyrn Smith. Okay, well, Tyrn Smith hadn't done anything for what thirteen thirteen weeks and playing a position he hadn't played since twenty twelve. The other thing that I think people forgot during that stretch when they struggled to run the football. They lost Beardish in game sixteen and didn't play in Game seventeen, and that meant

they had to start with the line shuffle, right. McGovern goes to center Tyler Smith to guard Jason Peters, at forty years old, is now playing full time at tackle until Beyotish returned for the playoffs. Thank god, because my hip it is killing me. Yeah. So so anyway, Tyler Smith I thought was pretty darning. I mean, Terren Steele

was pretty darn important to what they did. And so you know, this this perception out there that they didn't run the ball, or to me, I went back and looked, you guys, they were and I know it's seventeen games, Okay, they ran the ball five hundred and thirty one times. You got to go back to nineteen ninety four to find the last time they ran more in a single season.

And even if you take away the twenty seven carries in the seventeenth game, they're at five o four And there's only been four other times since ninety four that they ran the ball more than five hundred times in a season. So that's that's kind of surprising. So all this talk about well now we're gonna change or we're gonna run more, no better, run more effectively. Right, that's the problem. You can run thirty thirty five times a game, but if you're only averaging three and a half carries

a game, it doesn't seem like you're getting anywhere. So to me, this whole talk about you know, McCarthy wants to run the ball more, you know Kellen Moore was all he wanted to do was throw was misleading because they ran the ball more than they had since McCarthy got here. If you try to put it together and maybe look at some different scenarios on why they ran

so much. Could Dak's interceptions be a factor? You know, let's say he wouldn't have thrown so many interceptions, then we'd be we'd have more success with our passing game, therefore run the ball less. So do you think it's because we had to tone it down during the game, like we're killing them with the pass. All of a sudden, Dack throws an interception, Like okay, we either back it up back right. I wonder if that had anything to do with those numbers, because his interceptions were unusual in

the right. Yeah, so did we react It was that the reaction too, those on time return overs. I think it's not that we could look at I don't have an answer for that. That's a tough one, A tough one. All right, it's time for a break. Okay, I got a trivia question for you, all right. Franchise tag deadline day looming on Tuesday. Who was the first player that the Cowboys used the franchise tag on? When mix shots continue in a moment. The Medal of Honor is our

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where was Kate Post when I needed him? All Right? I remembered I asked a tribute, Yes you did. Would you remember what the question? It was? Mickey? The first franchise first time the Cowboys used the franchise tag? Was when? And who was it on? He stumped, I want to say, and he didn't turn it off? Is not going to do it myself? Um, it's one of two people, Anthony Spencer or flowzell Adams. Yes, no, it would be one of those two. Now, which one I'm trying to think

of the years? Well, Anthony Spencer was much later than flowzell Adams, so I think I would two thousand and two Flows zell Adams. And how much was the franchise tag for an offensive tackle in two thousand and two? Now you got me on that one. First of all, let's talk about how unique that name is. Flow I've never even thought about it today. I mean flows Out, which,

by the way, was a draft day controversy too. By the way, why the Cowboys took him in the second round because supposedly he fell out of the first round because he was deaf in one year and he couldn't hear the play. Well, he didn't really have any problems getting to the Pro Bowl, right, but did he I don't think he played with a hearing aide or getting

to a second contract. Yeah, they couldn't hear. That was one of those things that came out this time a year, right, okay, all right, And it was four point nine million dollars for a tackle in two thousand and two, twenty one years ago, four point nine million, and now it's twenty something like it. Yeah, you got the numbers somewhere in your somewhere. Breaking news. This just into the SWBC podcast studio. According to media reports, the Cowboys are exercising the franchise

tag on Tony Pollard. Yeah. See they they listen to me. That's breaking on data. They don't have to when I said it, then they say, you know what, they don't have to turn it in until what three o'clock tomorrow? That's right. So that could be a negotiating employee too. M all right, you didn't want our long term deal with upfront money. Okay, you work every week for your paycheck. Now see it's guarantee though, Yeah, but you don't get it ahead of time. I don't, No, No, you get it.

You got paid. What is guarantee? Yes, it guaranteed, But what if I gave you ten million today by the first of January, what would that do in some sort of savings fun I'd say you were crazy, because I'm not worth ten million dollars. I mean, so if you're Tony Pollard, if you're Tony Pollard, what contract would you agree to? That's not that's a multi year contract. First of all, he knows he's coming from a weak position. I truly believe that. Will that humble him? I don't know.

But or you bet on yourself because you're coming from that weak position and say, okay, let me re establish myself and make eleven million dollars. And that's frustrating as a player, right because you can. You can be a frustrating all you want. The team is still gonna say, what do you expect? Man? You're coming off an injury. And he knows that's what they're thinking. All right, So is there a way to do a contract because you got the Zeke situation there to do a contract that

guarantees him ten point one million dollars this year? You give it a signing bonus. But but he becomes a free agent next year, unrestricted unrestricted free agent next year, like you do a two year deal, and you give him a signing bonus, what to relieve the impact on the cap, see what I'm saying. And but he's still allowed to reach free agency next year. But the benefit for the team right now is he doesn't count ten million dollars this year. Instead, you spread that over two years. Okay,

So let's say five million this year next year. Yeah, right on the start of the league year next year, I think he probably that would be with So that would be the team beating on him, you know, as opposed to him beating on himself and that And for what that does for Pollard is it gives him. But you gotta have a base salary. He gets. He has a base salary, and so I mean, I say roughly five million each each year or whatever you the base

salary is the minimum. So you're bait. You're giving him the signing million ten million dollars which he gets now, okay, okay, and he still can there's an avoidable second year, right, and so it's spread over two years. The length of the contract is two years, or you can spread it over three years or whatever, and you just make it voidable March fifteenth next year. Yeah, there's probably some sort of there's probably some sort of rule on Okay, let's

just say but now, let's keep it simple. Let's keep it simple. And you're basically cutting that ten million dollars in a half where I know what you're saying, and he so he gets the benefit for Pollard is he gets the money up front and he becomes a free agent next year. So that doesn't change whatever. Is there any value from both sides on doing that? And that's only when when you realize that he has been franchise

tagged because otherwise he wants them a long term right right. Yeah, So what what you would do is continue negotiating after you tag him, right, make sure he doesn't get out there and free agency, and then you can work on something. But yeah, whatever, they have to trust each other. Whatever you do. He's got to make eleven million dollars this year, guaranteed, right, right. And even if you did a three year deal and

you said, okay, but your signing bonuses eleven million dollars. Yeah, but I was saying, do it over three years and then give him reasonable base salaries in the next two years. But and it doesn't take away his ability to become a free agent next year. Right, So I mean that seems like a way that you can lessen the impact on the salary cap this year, which will allow there may be some rule on how many years you have to sign somebody to get avoidable, but you might be

able to do that. Well, go ahead, Bill, all right, that's why that's why I graduated from law school in one month. Got the hell out of there about Terren Steele. What are you gonna do? What about Terren Steele? And how it? Let's say, obviously they want to they want to get a long term or a multi year deal with Terren Steele right now, right, I'd love to. So

what would be a workable contract there from both sides? Well, once again, somehow he's got to make four point three million this year, yea, So now you got to give him something up front. Now, they've done this before with other guys, and I was thinking that they did it with a a safety one year. Instead of making two million over the tender front restricted ten ure in one year, they gave him like four over two and spread it

out where they gave him some signing bonus. We played this game last year, last week or two weeks ago, and did it like my idea, which was did I say it was for steel, Yes, for steel, like sign them to a three year deal for twelve million dollars y like that and give them six million up front. Yeah, and it spread it out over keeping Lyle Collins. Last year it was reported as a three year, thirty million

dollars deal with Cincinnati. It was really two years twenty million. Okay, So that was the going rate last year for a right tackle, so ten million dollars a year. So would you do two years twenty million dollars some other tarring? Would some other team do that? Or they would probably I think the Cowboys would for a secondly match two years twenty million. But would another team go three years forty five million? Not coming off an a cl Yeah,

that always complicates thing. And that's exactly why players don't like playing the final year of their contract without anything guaranteed going forward. That's why they want to negotiate. And that's what's going to happen with um CDE lamb right, Well, they'll pick up is fifty right, so that will be next year's problem. But tray Bond Diggs is going again into the final year of his contract and don't. I don't like going into it either. I wouldn't at this stage,

you know, because once that contract is up. First of all, it's very tense between management and player when you're in that last year of your contract. I just don't like that kind of drama around the locker room. If you can get rid of that right away, then get rid of it. You did it with Romo, you did it with Troy, You did it with so many different players that you feel comfortable with it. You know we're going to be your guys. And if you if you let that go out to the last year, then yeah, you

look at it. Lamar Jackson thing to where now I'm feeling unappreciated and now the pressure is on because everyone knows I feel and appreciate it, and Maasmin is ducking from answering questions. I'm saying, I'm, you know, powering because my lips dragging the ground because I don't have my money. So if you think about it, it it happened to how many guys this year? It happened to Steal got hurt

final year of his contract. Happened to Pollard got hurt final year of his contract, happened to Anthony Brown, got hurt, final year of his contract happened to Donothan Wilson, although he didn't finally the same extent. It wasn't the yeah he played through. I mean that was the most games he started in a single season, but it could have. And then look what happens. The last thing you want

to do is be unrestricted free agent coming off. And that's it, man, because you've got no It's like trying to sell a house when they're repairing something, right, and it's like you got us for sale signing. Then you've got a construction guy doing something thing back a year ago, Michael Gallup and Michael Gallup the same thing got a contract here. Yeah, and so that's why that's why, um

now Cooper's gone. Yeah. Right, Well Jerry, Jerry talked about that for five minutes at least, and everybody but no one asked him the question it was if he knows? He said, yeah, I heard I heard Steven answer that question. He goes, and I don't have to speak for for Steven. He goes, but I think, but I think I am. It created some things that just weren't accurate. So I thought i'd clear those up without you asking me? Did uh yeah, because he made he made mention by doing that.

Then they saved money for this year and next year. And you gotta rely young guys to come through you Still, it's like what the snake eating his own tail, you know. But he didn't. But he did not rule out. He did not rule out signing a prominent free agent if it fits right, and he would spend whatever that needed to free agent work to make it. He didn't say the position better than not say the position? Well, what

do we need? Wide receiver? Okay, come on, cornerbacks, the tail right, cornerback right there, cornerback okay, um, safety right all right? Bright bright Chris to territory. That's a tenuous nope right, m hmmm. We paid how much for those lessons? She's doing great? Oh yeah, totally. Can you pass me a pepsi's zero sugar? Great job, honey, Oh look at that. That's not the end, no way. Now it's time for

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That's the first time. Okaya. The last few minutes here of mix shots, and we had the breaking news earlier the Cowboys are placing the franchise tag on Tony Pollard. B Jean Robinson had a pretty good combine weekend. It appeared he Texas running back who won the dok Walker Award four four six. I saw that. Yeah, that's running back. Yeah, I mean that's that's a true time. Yeah. I think somebody won. Somebody else ran faster among the running backs.

I think so. But um, Daniel Jeremiah, the NFL Network has him ranked as the number his number four overall player in this draft. Bijon Robinson not the number four running back, Number four overall player running backs these days, so behind Carter. I didn't look at this list, okay, but I just know he was number four, So I to your point, all right, not supposed to draft running backs that high anymore? Right, No way makes it to

twenty six, right, I don't think so. He said. He gave him the same grade as Christian McCaffrey, who went number eight to Carolina. So's he's that good of a receiver as a running he is a good receiver. I thought.

Stephen Jones had an interesting comment on that early in the week last week when he was asked about drafting or running back in the first round, and he said, well, normally you have eighteen to twenty first round grades in a draft, and so by time you get to twenty six, chances are you know you're not going to have one there, So basically what he's saying, if he took a running back at twenty six, it's almost like taking a second round a second round guy, which you could you can qualify.

But he prior to that said that your first round picks, you would like them to play on their second contract. And he said a lot of times running backs don't last that to play through two contracts, which is unusual because they don't use him as much as they used to, right, so you would think they have the more longevity. And so that, you know, I'm sure that got everybody thinking, okay, but Zeke got his second contract and look at him. I still don't think he's fallen off. I think number

one he played through something. In number two, the running game just broke down, meaning what was went on on the offensive line now we'll see because they've changed running back coach and they changed offensive line coaches, So and who's setting up maybe the run scheme with McCarthy now kind of the offensive coordinator slash play caller. So that goes back to what I was talking about earlier about it wasn't their inability to run the ball enough. They

just didn't run it well enough. And that's what's got to improve somehow, some way. Fastest running back was man from Texas A and m oh that's right, h che eh Chaney three two wow. Like ever since reaction, I went to wish that you be able to you know what, and I finally got to see him play in person because I went to the A and m LSU game. He's faster than that. I mean just watching him in person. Boy, when he gets to the edge or gets a crease, he's like a jet just shot right out of a cannon.

And even the quarterback from Florida ran well, yes, he did. Richardson four four and he uh, he's six four, two hundred forty four. I saw Vince I thought he was and a half and at ten too in college record setting. So you think Bryce Young's gonna get knocked down because he's only five ten and a half or five ten and a quarter I do. I do. It's a shame too. He'd looking good well, I mean, like you think of Drew Brees every time I see him. I think of

Drew Brees. How tall do you think the tc By the way, the TCU quarterback Max Duggin ran a four or five two, No way, yes, sah miss that one. How tall do you think he is? Five eight? No, he looks very six six six one, six one and a half. Yeah, this bild up was like five eight. That's doable. Yeah, you can go six one and a half, I said, Drew Breese did it, and he threw down the mahomes can't be much taller than six one. Huh,

mahomes about about sixty three? Is he that tall? Okay up, I'll look him up, you vamp and I'll look him up. I was, and we get the official number at the combine when he But again with with with these, with these guys, it depends on what offense you're gonna Are you gonna run an offense conducive to a quarterback that side? It has to right. You have to come right. You have to you have to change your off six two six two and one eighth two hundred and twenty five pounds.

That's the other part of it. Much taller than that, that's the That's the other part of it is how much weight are you carrying? Dirty? Yeah, that's what I like about Anthony Richardson two hundred and forty four pounds, the kid from TCU he's he's pretty stout for a Well, what about Hurts Hurts is? Yeah, how tall do you think Hurts is? I was gonna say six one, I was gonna say six feet he's I think he's six one, six one two twenty three. No, you can do it

anytime over six feet. Yeah, I think you're good. You just gotta make sure if you're taking the guy, then you gottajus to have to just how you don't say, Okay, I'm taking this guy and I'm running Troy Aikman's off right, can't do it? Okay, producer Supreme just inform me and I'm now looking at it. That What do you think Mahomes ran his forty time at the combine? Four seven? You said, yeah, four six, you got four seven, four eight. Yeah, he really don't play four. I've seen him. No one

has caught him from behind. They have not. Here's why you do the other drills. Guess what is three cone drill? Was I have? If you're under seven, that's good Like for DeMarcus ware was a was a six eight six or something like that, and Mahomes was six eight eight. Wow. That shows that little quickness, you know, scrambling around the pocket. That that is a sign of that right there. Yeah, you don't want your quarterback running forty yards, but you

do want him to be nifty in the pocket, right right. Feet, Yeah, let me see the feet. I thought about that. Yep. My great uncle told me when here's a wide receiver for go ahead. I was just gonna say. My great aunt had really bad feet towards the end, and he told me, when I go look for a wife, make sure she has good feet. So I was thinking about quarterbacks, make sure they have good feet. He just did want to have to help somebody out, like he had to help her walk at the on and age you want

to end on that, I don't know. We could get into Michael Parsons, Jackson Smith, and Jigba wide receiver, Ohio State from Rockwall. Yes, okay, he was injured this year at a hamstring injury. Missed most all of last season. I mean he just went off at the Rose Bowl the year before. Whatever. He's a guy to keep an eye on his three cone six to five seven. Wow, Yeah, I'm and he's put together. I'm bigger before we go.

Bryce Young five ten, Kyler Murray five ten, Baker Mayfield six feet, Russell Wilson five eleven, Drew Brees six feet. Pretty good quarterbacks. I love him short, except for the Oklahoma ones. I know you're gonna I almost left him off the list just to rid us a smart as comments I was being negative towards Oklahoma. Yeah, all right, doesn't end with that. Okay, you know what next week is. It's the start of NFL free agency. You have to

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