Mick Shots: Madden Memories

canceled flight this morning. So shocking, right, not that he's in transit, but the canceled flight portrait of that is not shocking. And so no Everson today. He will be back tomorrow. But the football team is on the football field and they just dallous. Football team is on the football field. And they just finished practice too, by the way, all right, And I did not notice any pads today,

No pads. It was another light practice. McCarthy said that they would put on the helmets and shells tomorrow for their more extensive practice. But he's still trying to sort of restore energy or preserve energy this late in the season. And not try to wear his team out in practices. So they've been going light like this for the last couple of weeks and continuing virtual meetings. Well, they got plenty of exercise on Sunday night when you score fifty

six points. Yeah, but they only had to play three quarters too, so they preserved more energy in that game too. So yeah, and I think they got some good. So here's what I got here. We have a pool report because of the COVID protocols. Are you the pool reporter? Dave Hellman and Nick Eatman I think combined to do it?

So how do we know? You and me know that they weren't in padgs today without having seen the pool room because the pool report says practice was outdoors, also overcast, with no shells or helmets, jerseys in caps, similar to last Wednesday's practice. Okay, and I'll pull back the curtain a little bit. Our s to BBC podcast studio happens to be about twenty feet from the practice field. Now we are not allowed to watch practice or go out to the practice field, but the windows are there there. Yes,

we do see it. I purposely do not stop and watch practice. I'll say that, but I can't help but see that they didn't have pads on today. Yes, and as I said, it's a pool report, so hopefully nobody because I heard somebody say, well, Kelvin Watkins reported, well, no, he read the pool report, so he didn't have anything

anybody else didn't have. So in order on the practice today, Tony Pollard spent the first fifteen minutes of practice off to the side on the chords with trainer Britt Brown, and that's what he's been doing since he suffered the foot injury. Did it all last week for the first portion of practice and then went into practice and as we saw in the game, they seems to be handling the plantar fascida just fine. Also, Tyrann Smith was participating

in individual drills. Both McCarthy, Jerry Jones Stephen Jones say they're very optimistic that he'll be ready to go in this game. And do you rely if indeed he starts with I think they're planning on it. It'll be the first time those five guys have all started in the same game. Interesting, and I went back. I doubted that when I first heard it, and so if you think about it, um Lele Collins, Zach Martin missed the first game, right, I thought the New Orleans game, they were there. Let

me check, I mean checking, I'm checking out. Check. Don't think so, because they hadn't made the change at the guard position yet. I don't know. Oh yeah, because yeah, those five meaning Connor Williams in for Connor McGaugh. Right,

that's right, And now Connor Williams was available. That was one game they had all of their guys available, right, And I think maybe Connor Williams in that game played a little fullback, I mean Connor, Yeah, Connor william played a little fullback I think, and then they went back. Actually he only played one play on offense in the New Orleans game. Well, in that game, Terr and Steel had COVID that game, and so it was the following

week at Washington Is where they had everybody. Everybody and that was Connor Williams had thirteen snaps as a fullback in that game, as Connor McGovern was the starter at left guard. Right, So it looks good for those guys. Also good news on the COVID front. Malik Hooker and Treston Hill were both activated from reserve. COVID were in

practicing in the portion open that's regularly open to the media. Also, Chiquon Hardy and Brandon Smith were also participating after being restirreed, restored, restored to the practice squad, so they are off the COVID nineteen lists. Noah Brown, remember him, the wide receiver out with a groin He was practicing too, so they have moved him off of well, he was on IR

now he's on IR designated to return. So that opens a twenty day window, twenty one day window along with Jay with Vasher and Josh Ball who already had been activated and because of Bernard Francis Bernard's injury. I believe it was a groin injury. Uh, they've added DeVante Bond to the practice squad, so they needed another linebacker to kind of help him out through practice on the designated

to return rules. Because we talked about it last week on Ball and who's the other one that they activated or they well vashera and um, where was the other guy? It was Josh Ball. Josh Josh Ball was the main one I was talking about, right, and we surmise that were three weeks left in the season, that would be a three week window where that he could practice with the team exactly. So my question is how does that extend into the postseason or done? Part? I don't know that.

That's what I'm wondering, is with this he can continue practicing? Well yeah, and because what they've done now with it was Noah Brown. All right, so your three week window obviously that takes you to the first week of the playoffs there. Yeah, So I'm wondering if do they have to then make a decision on Josh Ball after the end of the regular season whether he can still practice

with the team in the postseason? Right, yeah, I don't know if you But the thing you can do on that too, you just the window expires and you can start it anew or has he gone done or I think you're just done? Is he done? Then you revert to injured reserve. Okay, he does, and he cannot and it cannot be exercised. Again, Let's say the Cowboys had a need two weeks into the postseason, they he would not be an option, I think, I think, Okay, I'm thinking that's the way that one goes. So anyway, that's

your update. So Malie Cooker and Tristan Hill both back in practice or at least the portion that the pool reporter was able to watch. And just understand there was a pool reporter. The media is not being allowed into

the building and various protocols going on. That came out yesterday and NFL sent out a notice that for those media members that want to cover playoff games, they have to have proofs proof of their booster shot by j January twelve, which is the Wednesday prior to the wild card games in the postseason as it stands right now, and I would assume it's going to continue into the postseason.

And the reason there is a pool reporter is across the league, the NFL is not allowing reporters basically into the facility these unless you work for the team, and even if you work for the team something, you don't have access. Yeah, and you don't have access unless you're a pool reporter to the practice. So everybody understands. Mike McCarthy's daily interview is now a WebEx interview and at least they've got him on camera and it kind of looks like he's talking to us and you could see

us too, so that helps out. And the same thing's going to happen with the players and they're doing those right now, and those are going on right now. Yes, So anyway, that gives you an update of what sort of is going on around here. And I would imagine we have a heck of a lot to talk about, Yes, we do. And of course one of those things that we will talk about was the news that came down last night about the loss of John Madden. And we'll spend some time here talking about John Madden and his

impact on Cowboys fans through the years here. Maybe we'll do that in our second segment. Okay, do that time to it. Yep. And of course passed away at the age of eighty five, and the NFL made that announcement around six o'clock last night, said he died unexpectedly yesterday morning, but he had the family he had been. Um. I don't know what exactly was, but for the last three or four years, he's I think you've probably seen him sort of disappear from a public person. I should say,

he wasn't doing interviews anymore. Um. And uh so he had been battling something for for quite some time. Um. It sounds like the family didn't expect the time to come when it did. Yeah, yesterday morning, which is and I know we're going to get into this, but to set it up, he ends up passing away two days after Fox Sports ninety minute documentary that showed on Christmas Day. I guess three days. I guess, I said two days.

And they acted and that was the first thing I've seen him do, because they did a really neat thing. I haven't seen it yet, so for those of you who have not seen it, watch it. It is really riveting, really well done, one of the best I think I've

seen in quite some time. But one of the elements they used was they allowed John to sit in front of a big screen and watch it, so he got to see the and you got to see his reaction to some of the things they had on the and that's how they used him in the In the video, you know, they had old interviews, old video stuff like that, but that's how they basically used him in the documentary, him watching what other people were saying about him, and he did make a few comments. All I'm telling you

is you gotta watch it. It was John Madden, This is your Life, Yes basically. Yeah, all right, So we'll talk more about Madden coming up here in the next segment. You know, as I like to do, I like to go behind enemy lines and listen to talk radio in the opposing city each week. I've tuned in a little bit to Phoenix Radio in the last couple of days. And that is a team, the Arizona Cardinals that is reeling right now. As everyone knows, they've lost three in

a row. They're three and five since starting the season seven and zero. It's going to be a motivated team coming in here on Sunday to play the Cowboys because they've wrapped up a playoff spot. They do want to win their division obviously, and they've got this game and then they close against Seattle and they got the Rams that are the division leaders right now. But more than anything, they need to get to play in football better again. And so that's that's their main motivation coming in here.

And by the way, uh, this will be of interest to you. They're gonna go behind enemy lines because our former teammate and I was wondering, sat in with us many times on Mick Shots. Danny Sereku is now working for the Arizona Cardinals kind of running their production department, the video TV. She went their mid season yeah about the earl. It was I thought it was about the time they were seven, And oh, I was gonna blame Danny for I think she started. I think she started.

All it was light at the beginning. All right, So we'll give her. We're gonna we're gonna do a little zoom things and she's going to interview me. How about that? All right? So uh, and she's doing well and loves it, so good for her. Of course, she's from right here in Dallas, and so I bet she can't wait to come back here and another great universe in Missouri. That's

exactly right, that's right. And of course Kyler Murray, you know, you look at the Cardinals and we'll get into more of them in the next couple of days, but you look at where their season kind of went sideways here in the last couple of months. He got hurt, missed three games. Colt McCoy came in for him and actually was two and one as the starting quarterback, and so it's kind of been since then. It's you know, they lost DeAndre Hopkins to an injury, and so things have

gone haywire for them. But when he looked back to last year, I think Kyler Murray continued his streak of being undefeated at AT and T Stadium. Yep, and here he comes again, yep. So it's well, it'll be even a newer year come right, That's right, And so it's time for the Cowboys to do to break that streak that he started not only at Alan High School, but at Oklahoma and then with the Cardinals. You know, he didn't play all that well against himself against the Cowboys

last year. He was errant with some passes early, but he had a big bomb to Christian Kirk and you know that got the Cardinals going in that game, and the Cardinals had their way with the Cowboys. But that was a totally different Cowboys team of yeah, and a totally different defense too, by the way, and dan Quinn

had done a wonderful job. And by the way, we probably I don't know if we had a chance to mention that yesterday that Jacksonville had contacted the Cowboys for permission to interview Dan Quinn and Kellen Moore for their vacant We did talk about the coaching job. I think what we didn't talk about was all the other guys that they are either have interviewed or will interview. They're

interviewing six coordinators, so I gave you two. And then Tampa Bay's offensive coordinator Byron Leftwich who played for Jacksonville. Also Tampa Bay's defensive coordinator Todd Bowles. Again shows you when you win a Super Bowl, everybody's trying to poach guys that help you win that Super Bowl. Also former Cowboys linebacker coach now the Colts defensive coordinator Matt Eberflus, and also Nathaniel Hackett, the Packers offensive coordinator. Paul Hackett's son,

former Cowboy assistant offensive coordinator. He will be interviewing. And then they's also been reported that they have shown interest in Doug Peterson and Lyon's former head coach, Jim Caldwell. And I understand. I think I saw on Twitter just here within the last hour that they are interviewing Peterson tomorrow. Tomorrow, that's when his Have you heard anything about the timeline on when they might interview more so, and any clarification on does that need to happen prior to the end

of the regular It? Does that need to happen prior to the end of the regular It can happen, Yes, just because it opened yesterday to at grant permission, and just listening to McCarthy, I got the idea that you know, Friday Saturday once basically, as they say in the business, the haze in the barn, that they would have time to be able to do that and still take care of whatever business they have with the Cowboys. But if I'm looking at all those candidates, I don't know Byron

Leftwich's name comes out to me. Yeah, played there, people know him. It's done a really good job in Tampa Bay. Although I don't know that he could bring Tom Brady with him, but he's got a young quarterback that you know you could work with, and you bring in a good another good quarterback coach, and you've got an offensive quordinator who played in the league that certainly would help him out. And they should have a whole lot of

draft talent capital capital. That's what I was looking for, and I would imagine still have a bunch of free agency capital too to spend. They always seem to have a lot of money, so um, you know, it's not a bad situation when you think you have your franchise quarterback and uh, there's an Ian Rappaport report. Uh, let's see that. Just getting this from Chris Beam, it sounds sounds like Quinn will interview after the regular season. He

turned down during the season. During an interview than these two weeks, he says he'll do it after the season is over. And he does that mean after the season's over or after the regular season's over? I bet at him after the regular season is over, Okay, not during the during the byeway. Yeah, yeah, very good. That's that's what I would do it during the byeway. All right. When we come back here on mixed shots, let's remember

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possibility that he would interview with Jacksonville. They've requested permission and he has indicated, according to reports, that he will not interview with them until the season is over, and that means the season is over, not the regular season is over. It is a two week window that leads that gives teams that have a head coach vacancy here but prior to the start of the playoffs opportunity to talk with an assistant coach with other teams with permission.

So the other thing to point out is just because you're getting interviewed doesn't mean you know you're dead set on getting the job. I can remember when Sean Payton was interviewed by Al Davis for the Raiders' head coaching job when he was with the Cowboys, and that would have been two thousand and five, I believe, and I think he just had a few misgivings of taking over the Raiders at that time, not knowing who the quarterback

was going to be. And I remember he turned the job down and somebody in the national media said he just committed professional suicide because if you turn down Al Davis, you know who else is going to come after you. Well, the next year, the Saints came knocking at the door. And how that turn out. He's still there. I think, yes,

I think so and uh. And then Mike Zimmer had an opportunity to become the head coach at the University of Nebraska and went through the Inner forty practice and US process, and he's he ended up turning that down and ended up being coming defensive coordinator and then a head coach, So you know what and and sometimes you know, from from Zim's standpoint, he just didn't want to go back and recruit, you know, go on the road and deal with eighteen year old kids and um, you know

it's one thing to recruit free agent. That does not seem like something that he would enjoy, no, right, because it was he was at Washington State nineteen ninety four ninety five US when he came here. Zim was he at Washington or Weber State. He was at Weber for sure, with David Campbell, and that's out of campell O think I thought he might have been at just prior to

coming here, But it was ninety four season. I believe ninety because he came as a defensive assistant and then he became the secondary coach after Campo was named the defensive coordinator after Butch Davis. He was in his thirties then, and it's a lot a little different recruiting college kids

when you're thirty two instead of sixty two. So interesting note on Zim, as we're getting off track here, but he was a grad assistant at the University of Missouri when I was there covering the team for the Columbia Tribune. He's older than I had him then, and I got to and I got to know him then. And when he showed up here, he looked and I looked at him, going, no kidding, you're the guy, the young guy that you know. It was basically sort of my age at that time.

He would still be sort of your age, and he probably still old at that time. He was all right, let's talk John Madden. There's so much that I mean, you could, as we talked about with the documentary on him, there's there's not enough time in the day to talk about all the John Madden stories. But let's you know, especially his impact as far as cowboys fans are concerned. You know, you look back at his career and he what people may not realize at such a young age.

He became the head coach of the Oakland Raiders and ten years as a head coach throughout the decade of the seventies until seventy eight seventy nine, and retired at age forty two. Went right into the broadcast booth and the legend continued from there. Yeah, and I was fortunate to have a couple brushes with him, the ones that stick out. I was at the two thousand and six Pro Football Hall of Fame induction covering basically Troy Aikman.

That's the year he was inducted, and that was the year John went in and I think everybody remembers his speech, his induction speech, and the thing that always hit me and still does every time I walk into the Hall of Fame rotunda where the busts are as, he basically says, I'm convinced that when the lights go off in the building and everybody leaves the Hall of Fame, that the busts,

the busts talk to each other. And it just I don't know, but when I walk in there, I could visualize what he was thinking, right, and I just thought that was just a wonderful thing, way to put things right. And then that the year before two thousand and five, when the Cowboys played back to back games at San Francisco and Oakland, and Bill kept the Cowboys team there. Didn't want to travel back and forth, so we stayed

in San Francisco Oakland area. John Madden had Rich Dealrymple, the Cowboys executive vice president of public relations, put together a group and we got bust to his town where he was living Pleasantonalfourgnia, and he treated us to dinner at his favorite steakhouse, and it was like, are you kidding me? We're doing this with John Madden. And then the last thing from a personal standpoint, and you know

when you do. You've been in the business as long as we have, you've met people, you don't get star struck. I think it's only happened to me. I think I told you this story twice. Maybe. The fiftieth anniversary of the m B All Star Game was at Comiskey Park, and you know, my guy growing up as a White Sox fan was Louie Apparizio, and they had the old timer's game and interviews in the locker room or whatever they call it the clubhouse, and I just couldn't bring

myself to ask him a question. I was just like, no, this isn't right. Right. When I was ten years old, I wanted to be Louie Apparizio, right, we were about the same size. And then that time in two thousand and six at the Super Bowl when I interviewed Bart Starr, who I idolized growing up a Packers fan, And that was when Troy they were We were asking questions about if Troy deserved to be in right, and that's when he poked me in the chest when he answered my question,

going Bart stars hit me in the chest. Right. But you know, when the Cowboys got good, it was summer, all in Madden doing the game games right, and they were always at the ranch, always around in the press box. And I don't know how it happened, but I remember passing him and he said, hi, Mickey Well and I said he knows who. And it's like, oh my god, And I thought that was like the coolest thing ever that John Madden knew who I was just from covering

the Cowboys being right. He got on Dallas Cowboys dot com. This might have been before Dallas Cowboys dot com too. I can't remember exactly the timing of it, but well, he got the clips. Yeah, he was doing research, right. Those guys do the research they know. As a matter of fact, that time, I think I told you when the Cowboys were playing the Eagles, and this was just a couple of years ago, and one of their former players,

was doing radio for him. He was the analyst on radio, and ended up in the elevator at AT and T Stadium with him going up to the press box before the game, and uh, and I knew who he was and I said something to him and he goes, oh, yeah, he goes listen to talking cowboys all the time. That's so he was doing his research, right, figuring out if he can find stuff out, probably for the head coach.

So I don't know, you know your memories of Madden, you know, and for us, you just need to understand we remember him as the head coach right where you remember him as the TV guy, not Madden. And that's why I yeah, that's why I thought it was cool that they named the documentary all Madden. It was pretty neat. Yep. And um, you know, as you alluded to earlier, he here in his latter years at reclusive lifestyle. He wasn't

in the limelight out in public much at all. I don't know if this this may have been close to one of his last public appearances was at Pat summer All's memorial service. Pat passed away. Of course, Pat lived here in Dallas and South Lake and he passed away April twenty thirteen, So that's now been more than eight years ago. It's that long. Yeah, and um and and John Madden delivered the eulogy at Prestonwood Baptist Church here and I was I was here at the memorial service

as a moving tribute. You can I'm gonna I'll find it and tweeted out the link on YouTube. Uh. He talked about fifteen minutes about Pat. But um, it was really great and um just telling stories and stuff and and and how much Pat, how close they were, how you know, they worked together for twenty two years and but beyond that they were they were close friends. You know, there are some people you worked with him for twenty two years and and you know you just, uh, you're

not necessarily close friends, but they were. And you know, I had the opportunity. It was the last eight years of Pat's life. Pat was in a Bible study that I'm in and it's still going out eight years later. Pat was always the first one there. Apparently I wasn't always the first. I was usually the last one there. But I'm told that, you know, Pat would would get there first, and he would tell stories. One of the stories that he loved to tell about John Madden was Thanksgiving.

Whenever the first CBS and then Fox teams were here doing a Thanksgiving game, Pat would have the whole broadcast crew at his house in South Lake for a dinner on Wednesday night, and Pat said, the only time that he ever saw John Madden speechless was the time it was a Wednesday before the Thanksgiving game and they were about to have dinner with the whole broadcast team there. I mean we're talking production crew, everybody there, so there's

probably dozens of people there. And so they were about sitting down to dinner and Pat said, you know what, it'd be nice if John, maybe you could say grace and give thanks before before we sit down to eat. He looked at the direction of Madden and he said, Madden turn beat for the first time. It was a bit about that time. John Webber, the Cowboys late the team chaplain, who was standing behind Madden, started with our father in Heaven, we want to give Summer always was

looking in the direction of John. But it wasn't Madden. It was Webber that but he always he would always tell that story at Thanksgiving. Tied the time that that John Madden was speechless. He asked him to say grace. And one of the things you also need to do is go on Dallas Cowboys dot com. Jerry Jones had a statement and it's pretty long. I'm not going to read the whole thing, but I thought this paragraph really summarized John Madden. He said, when he walked into the room,

it was a better day. When he talked, you listened and you learned. When he laughed, everyone in the room laughed. And when he got back on the bus to leave, you always wanted more. You were always looking forward to his next visit. And I think he's He's absolutely right. And if you if you remember, you know he hated to fly, which was one of the reasons he quit coaching. And then he gets into the TV business and he

started on the train. He was mister Amtrak and that was taken too long with the Madden cruiser idea on the bus, and you know what, because of that, we came up with that idea to do the Cowboys bus going to training camp for several years to Oxnard. Also Emery our bus driver, Emily Tyler, we did the roundabout trip to San Antonio. We didn't just take the four

and a half hour drive down I thirty five. We went through the hill country, we went down to the valley and came back up through Corpus Christi to San Antonio for training camp. But it was because of what John was doing that was like, oh that sounds pretty cool, and it was you got to see America and he did too. Here's another story that Pat told about him. You know how they became the voices of the Madden

video game. Okay, they so when the video game first came out, they came to Pat and John and wanted them to be the voices. And then they so they started talking compensation, and so they had a choice. They could Pat, you could you can will pay you a fee for it, or we won't pay you a fee, but you get royalties, right, okay for the game. And so Pat took the fee. No, okay, yeah, he pay me the X amount of dollars. I'll do it, Okay. Madden didn't want the fee, he just wanted the royalties.

Oh my, you know that town Pleasanton, California, right, The Madden family basically owns all the real estate and it's a it's a very nice area there by Oakland there in the Bay area all the Madden family. Basically they own all that land out there. And by the way, that's since been developed in the documentary. And this is kind of spoiler alert here, but when you were talking about Thanksgiving, obviously there was a section on the tre Ducan.

They interviewed the guy who came up with the idea for the or initially made him for John, and Nate Newton was part of it. They showed the boys in their Turkey lad and he always credits John Madden for getting him in the Pro Bowl. That you know, John was the one that kind of noted him had his name out there, and I also have since Everson couldn't be here, he said that he wanted to point this out.

He said, John is mostly known to this generation through video games, to the generation before that the premier sports TV analyst, and to the generation before that championship NFL coach. He was the best to do do it in everything he ventured. So Everson wanted to make sure people knew that he also had some things to say about him.

By the way, I've just said a note on my phone that Bill Belichick apparently spoke roughly seventeen minutes on John Madnett his press conference today, Well, he was he was a big you know what. It didn't surprise me that he was on there in the documentary Bill Parcels was on there. Lawrence Taylor. Lawrence Taylor had a lot to say about John Madden. It was it was riveting and part of it at times kind of a tier jerker too. Yeah, I mean it really was to hear

what people had to say about him. Yea. And again I will tweet out I'll find that eulogy that he gave for a Pat Summer all because you know, if I think Pat would probably say the exact same things about John Madden that you'll hear in that you talk about tier jerkers. It's something that you got to see. All right. We will wrap up mixed shots here in just a moment. The Medal of Honor is our country's

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in the app or Google Play stores. All right, last few minutes here of mixed shots, and we've got an honor for a Cowboys quarterback that happened earlier today. Yes, and it's the second time Dak Prescott's been named the NFC Offensive Player of the Week. The first time was after the New England game, and after this performance it

was probably not a hard decision. Through for three hundred and thirty yards against Washington, four touchdowns, completed, seventy one point eight percent of his passes, finished with a quarterback rating of one thirty one point four. Pretty good performance. So he basically won that in one half of play, and he because he only completed i think one more for nine yards in the second Yeah, for the second

half and then retired. And we don't get to see that often with cowboy quarterbacks, by the way, over the last several years. Doesn't matter, it just doesn't happen in the NFL. So that's five times he's won the Player of the Week awards twice this year, okay, Yeah, rather amazing and kind of tells you the level that he

played at. And they're hoping to continue that against Arizona, which, as we pointed out earlier, it is probably a pretty desperate team right now here, although they've played desperate teams before, right. Washington needed to win and they didn't. The Saints needed to win and they didn't. So now I'm thinking Arizona might be a little better, better team. Yeah, yeah, So we'll see what kind of effort they are able to

muster on Sunday afternoon. All right, Gil Brandt all all Rookie defensive team and obviously Michael Parsons on it, but he also at defensive tackle OsO Diggi Zuoa. I like that, Yeah, And he just basically pointed out how well the rookie played. With Neville Gallimore being out. Who would have started at

that spot? You know, Carl Watkins missed a game or two with covid as I remember, and uh, you know, Ohsa probably played a heck of a lot more than he would have had Neville Galler more have been ready to start the season. And that's why one of the things that's going on with this defense now is they don't have to play Neville Gallim or fifty snaps a game. He can get in thirty and this guy gets twenty five. And the rotation that dan Quinn has going is rather

remarkable at this time. And then you get everybody else healthy. With DeMarcus Lawrence coming in, Randy Gregory, we knew what he could do once he got back. Yeah, that front has been pretty potent. Also knowing that Dorence Armstrong got to play a heck of a lot more than expected because of Lawrence's injury, they exposed Parsons to various positions.

So yeah, this will be a good test though for the defense because Kyler Murray's one of those quarterbacks that he will extend the play, he will create plays, and as Bill pointed out from the game last year, he will throw one up that's a fifty fifty ball and sometimes he completes it, and that's trouble for the defense.

You know, back on Odgazoa, this is now two straight years that the Cowboys in the third round have taken a defensive tackle who when you look at him, where they are right now, dig Azoa at the end of his rookie season. Neville Gallimore. Of course you had to overcome the injury, but the level of play that he's at here in his second year that they've taken a third round pick that probably should have been a higher draft pick. Yeah, you know, if there was, if there

was an All second year team. Now, I understand Gallimore hasn't played enough snaps this year, played in enough games to make that team, But if you just went on football playing ability, I'd put Gallimore and Diggs on a second year All All second Yeah, and and Gallimore missed almost the entire season, right this year, but you see how good he is. And then because of some other injuries,

their other third round pick, Chauncey Golston, got an opportunity. Uh, and you know he's starting to play well at at defensive end. Look look at how well this team has drafted the last two years with Ceedee Lamb, Treyvon Diggs and Neville Gallimore last year in the first three rounds and this year with Michael Parsons in the first round. Obviously, and uh and obviously the way O Digazoo has come on.

Now we'll see what happens with Kelvin Joseph. It's you know, he's more of a project, but it was got an opportunity the other night. It was encouraging. Yeah, and then Chauncy right and Sean Wright was the other third rounder and he's a probably and he's a project, but he's been Josh Ball in the fourth round is you know, and who by the way, is practicing, so he's he's on that. He's the other guy that's on the twenty one day our return. Okay, we're out of time already.

One thing for tomorrow. We were going to do today, but since Everson wasn't here. Our little zoom interview that we did that aired on CBS eleven last night, Everson talking with Trayvon Diggs. We're gonna rear that tomorrow on the show. And we and I turned into what Everson had to say the other day on Mick Shots about Diggs in his excitement for the kid. On Dallas Cowboys dot Com. There's a story about what Everson had to say. In case you didn't hear it, you can read it

all right. So that does it from Mick Shots for a Wednesday, and we will talk at you again tomorrow at one thirty goal Cowboys. This has been a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club.