The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club Cowboys. This is Mick Shot, screening live on Dallas Cowboys dot Com and the official Dallas Cowboys apt now. Here are Bill Jones, Everson Wolves, and Nicky Spagnola and it's time for a Trade Deadline edition of Mix Shots from inside the SWBC podcast studio here at Ford Center at the Star in Frisco, a tamper free edition of the Trade Tamper Tamper Free Edition
Trading Deadline. As we are now ninety minutes away, nine minutes away from the trade deadline. So when we finish, it will be thirty minutes till breaking news, right, is that what you're saying? That's exactly Yeah, there or forty five minutes, I dare say, I dar say, we will have nothing to report. There will be nothing to report after we go off. That I would uh, I would agree with you. Yeah, I think Jerry Jones agreed with So why are your people gonna stick with us for
forty five minutes? You gotta build it up. We've got all we got stuff kind of stuck mixed out rent that's right, we forget that we got the rant called the tse oh TV guy, the TV guy. Everybody don't think anybody else listens to Jerry Jones. But yeah, okay, so we believe it when Jerry says that. Well, like I said that, they're not pursuing anything. But if the phone rang there you go answering. Okay, I did say
that Dak was going to play this weekend. He did. Yeah, he had us all fired though, you know what, You're right, Bill, I can't believe anything else at this organization except here on mix shots. So since you brought up the trade, yeah, I was gonna ask you, do you ever remember when you were here playing a midseason trade like something that just astonished you. No, not necessarily midseason trades, but I'm sure we had some. I mean you had things you
picked up guys. Maybe your last year here, we had cut When was your last year here? Eighty nine? Okay, yeah it was there. Not a midseason trade in eighty nine. I'm thinking back a rather large midseason trade in eighty nine nine mid season Oh well, Herschel, Herschel, yeah, okay, yeah, I meant not on the trade deadline, necessarily met everybody got somebody, Yeah, I think they got more than somebody out of that trade. Well they did, okay, So yeah, we sent him away. We sent him away and got
nine right, one for nine? Is that what it was? Or eighteen? However many you want to multiplied by the draft backs? Well, it was, it was. It was initially from the five players, I think it was. It was, and including the draft, and then and then we found out later that the draft the players were tied to the draft picks, and Minnesota made the mistake of thinking the Cowboys wanted to get good right away, so we're going to give you all these scrap players that we
don't remember used to make mistakes right time. And so and Jimmy was like, no, we wanted to We wanted the draft choices. Uh. And you remember the one guy didn't want to come, the running back, Uh, Darren Nelson. Yes, he refused to come. And Jimmy goes, okay, that's fine, we'll just take his And where did he go? Draft choice? He went back to Minnesota never wound up going to the San Diego Chargers that year. Yeah, okay, all right, can you name who the players the Cowboys got in
the herschel Walker trade? D David Howard, I hold Jesse Solomon, Darren Nelson, And there was a defensive end that was, I tell you the story. I forgot his name. I want me to tell you the name. Yeah, and then you can tell the story. Yeah, Alex Stewart, Alex Stewart do not remember him, so he did nothing here, right, But Edward or I think he wrote this that Alex
Stewart looked like tiz Ed and played like Jay. And a day or so later, we're walking through the locker you know, the outer part of the locker room at the ranch, and here comes Alex Stuart and he sees Ed and he basically confronted him very loudly. But you know what, ed was right? Yeah, I mean he was right. And sometimes if you tell the truth, it hurts. Yeah, I mean you can be angry about it. Maybe ed
should have said it, but what big boys know. We understand that we get into this particular reason and they're going to be certain consequences. And when you play like crap, you know you're a bad player. Sometimes the church just comes out. Because he looked the part as I remember, and the fact that we don't remember him. Yeah, I'm sure you're already looking up the stats right now, see where he ended up? He ended up? What happened to him? I mean, because I don't even remember period. If you
think about it, David Howard was a nice player. Yes he was, Jesse, Jesse Solomon. He his mouth shut, but he was a nice player. That's why he right right, Jesse. We were buddies, man. He would come to my locker and we fussed all the time. Yeah, and then and then and then I coult made it for till through made it through the eighty nine Oh my god, disaster. If he asked right and he ended up? Did he
get he got a ring? He played because he remember early in the NFC title game, Um, Kevin Smith got hurt the first player, second play, and they put Ike in and that's when they threw the deep past to Jerry Jerry Rice. It would have been a touchdown, but there was some sort of holding or something nullified. Next play, Kevin Smith was back in the game. Well, you know, I you know, I know, I had a very unorthodox style that Tom Langer did not appreciate. And I get that,
but I hold his technique was probably worse than mine. No, no, probably it was. He lined up deeper than I did. At least I had a backpedal. I hoped would back up ten yards. He would line up at ten yards and wouldn't move. He let him come him, come to him at ten yards. I mean, you just don't do that. I mean, even the dbs this weekend, we're closer than that. So you were already gone. I think I've told this story before. Ninety or ninety one Cowboys line didn't have
anything of a pass rush. And remember how good the Eagles were at that time with that front four. And so we're in the lock we're in the locker room one day and they're talking about the We were talking about just kind of shooting the bull with him, and there was a couple other guys about their Eagles pass rush and he goes, yeah, he goes, let me show
you how their DB's play. So he gets down in his stance, got his hands on his knees, and he starts backpedaling and he goes one, two, three, Okay, man, I'm good because the play would have been over right. He only had to cover for three seconds Chicago exactly. And it was the funniest thing. Yeah, And so you know, we used to get so jealous with that. Of course, we had doomsday at the time in the in the
eighties doomsday too, I guess you might call it. But there were times when you know, the flex defense holds your d line back. Yeah, And there were times with especially with a play action. We was sitting ducks back then, and we would get so jealous when we would see how Mike Downs was forced because he was part of that run defense. The free safety is part of the run defense. That's the kind of responsibility Mike had. He had to be close to the line of scrimmage on
a lineman he's no more than ten yards. Then you look at the other dbs and other safeties. We can't even see them in those film they're they're out of the pit, ten people on the field because the safety is twenty yards back. And Mike Downs used to hate that because he did not have that lux. Now, Jesse Solomon was good, yes he was. And he cost me. He was fast. He cost me my mustache, by the way.
In nineteen ninety right, he was holding out. Yeah, And we were in San Diego for a week and I had been corresponding to him back and forth, checking the comming. You're not coming. So I called him one day and he told me. He goes, yeah, he goes, I bought my my plane ticket, I'm coming tomorrow. Well, I get in a argument about his status with Mike Fisher and and so I think I've got inside information, right, and it's like, yeah, i'll bet you he's coming. Oh he's not.
And he goes, what do you want to bet? I said, I'll bet my mustache. Right. Well, Jesse changed his mind and he didn't come. He had the ticket and he didn't show. I think that he was aware of that. Yeah, we had a bet. I'll screw this guy. Then when he showed up we were back I think he didn't
show up until training camp was over. When we were back here, and he showed up the first day, and I think we were interviewing Jerry or interviewing him, and the two came together and Jerry was gonna, like, you know, bury the hatchet and say okay, welcome back. And he shook his hand and said good to be here with you, boss, And he called him boss like three times. And I was like, oh boy, I said, this isn't gonna last, okay, just real quick. And David Howard ended up getting trade
with Lockhart right to the New England Patriots. All right, just real quick, I'll run through the draft, I mean the trade. Yeah, okay, yeah, those those players, and here the draft picks. Okay, these are the unconditional picks they got. The Cowboys got Minnesota's first round pick in ninety and second round pick in ninety and their sixth round pick in ninety so three draft picks that were unconditional. All right.
The Cowboys also got Minnesota's first round pick in ninety one conditional on cutting Solomon, Minnesota's second round pick in ninety one, conditional on cutting Howard, Minnesota's first round pick in ninety two, conditional and cutting Holt, and Minnesota's second round pick in ninety two, conditioned met by rating away Nelson, and Minnesota's third round pick in ninety two conditional one cutting Stewart. It's amazing that they still have a team to this day. And who was the GM Who's man,
Mike Lynn? Yeah, well he still has a job. Oh no, he's so. When it was announced, it was announced as those those five players, and one of them turned out not showing up here, and three picks the first and second,
and then the sixth round pick the next year. I'm not even for sure those picks were announced, okay, but but those were the thre those were the end condition, yeah right, And so with those picks, so, and I don't know what the timeline was on when those players had to be cut by in order for the pick to take priority over the player. I think they had to if they were on But whatever the deadline was,
Jimmy was cutting that player to get that pick. And they actually basically actually cut them all and then just brought him back like because they cleared waivers. Because I remember what happened. So this happened. It might have been well, I don't know, say it was a Tuesday, right, Uh.
And I remember Wednesday when Herschel was leaving. He walked out the back to the player's parking lot at the ranch, and uh, everybody started running after him, right to try to catch up with him, right, And I started running and I'm going, you know what, I am too old to be running after a damn player. I am I'll find out what he said. I am not doing chasing
him down like that. Right. So Friday, and I think it was Channel twenty one, they wanted to do a writer's roundtable about the trade, and so we all get on there and we just panned the thing, just just just brutalized. Yeah, this is the best, let's say, only asset you had, right, everybody else is getting old and what do you We love to have a copy of that. And we all thought, we all thought they were getting these players, not the draft picks. That part hadn't come out. Yeah, right.
So the next day, Norm Hitchkis reports that part of the trade was the Cowboys are going to send Steve Walsh to Minnesota at the end of the year. And I had found out on Friday that that was absolutely inaccurate. That wasn't that wasn't right. Right. Well, I get a call from the paper and they go, well, we need a comment from Jerry. I said, well, we don't need a comment from Jerry. I'm telling you I've found out and we've already written it that that's not part of
the trade. Okay, No, we still need something from Jerry. So I get Jerry on the phone, right, tell him what Indeed, Well, he had seen the show Friday night and he let me have it like nobody else has, right, because because of how we criticized the trade. Probably Oh yeah, we were all over right, and I mean, he just went on and on. He was he was he was especially hurt by you because you're his child. No, no, I was not his child, not even close, all right, And you well, it was a long it was decade,
Garrett that I couldn't. I never worked my way back here. And uh and so he just went on its rant and he used every word, you know, not in the King's English, right, because everybody said, Cherry ever chew you out? And I go, oh yeah. And so he got to the end and I said, so, I said, so, do you want to comment, write anything you want? I think he Al would have gave you quotes, yall. You just yeah, you were right. Yeah. So that was that was the
That's the other thing I remember of that trade. So, yeah, that wasn't that. But how but before that, before Jerry got here, were there mid season trades that you remember. I remember just the acquisition of hershe Walker. But that was a trade that just ended up, that happened. It was in trading camp though, yeah, and you know that was it was huge. That was the only thing close to it because at that time you're bringing in Hershel Walker.
You have Tony Dorssett, right, So to us, yeah, that was a big deal, and that at that time they weren't really doing They weren't really trading anybody. They would just cut them. So they traded before the season started. Um so this was before you were there when two tall went to go box, Yes, and they were he seventy nine was the season he boxed. And so he came back back, but they had already traded for um, oh,
the defensive and from the coach, the big guy, Bubba Smith. No, John Dutton very good, Yeah, John Dutton right, and uh, and so that was a trade I remember. But other than that, it was just kind of getting rid of guys, not really trading guys. Yeah, that's right. That were the trade deadline. Now, that was not that. It was all about if they didn't want you, something happened, they would
just cut you. And bringing in Herschel was the exception because we really didn't just bring in anybody like that. Every right, and especially you bring in the guy to replace Tony Dorsett, future Hall of Fame. But this guy's about to lead you his his he I think he had passed ten thousand in eighty five and by the time we got to eighty seven, you know, I mean, he's working on being one of the leading rushers in history. So for that to happen, I just thought that, we
know what, they a bunch of crap. The acquisition as part of that. When the USFL folded. Uh, that got overshadowed was Nate because they picked up Nate off of US the US and he for some reason, I think the Washington at the time Reskins. Uh what did they have to do with that? No, they had drafted. They had signed Nate as an undrafted fres agent as a rookie and eighty three. Yes, so he and Babe Laffenberg were there, and then he got cut and then he ended up in the USFL for what a year or two.
I just remember coming into the locker room. I believe we went thousand oaks. Yes you were, and uh, I remember seeing this big old brother like who hacks, you know, like, and he looks so humble, you know, Nate, he looks humble to he gets out that star whipping right. Yeah. And so he just sitting there just looking very unassuming, and I just kind of walked back by and like, uh, man, who is this guy? You know, I really just didn't
know what to expect. And then if you remember, he got nicknamed the kitchen because he was because he was bigger than the Free and I must admit it wasn't impressive because he was that big. Yeah, so you're thinking he can't be any good a matter of fact, I mean you're just thinking that, right, That's just first impression we were talking about. We were talking about how players can have an effect on the coaching staff, like tell them, hey, this guy can do this, or this guy can do that.
He goes, I might not have been here today had it not been for Randy White and John Dutton and who else? He pointed out somebody else on the defensive line. He said they actually went to coach Landry and said, hey, this guy's got something. Yeah. He said, they saved me because he said I was so big and fat. He goes to you. They saw the potential. Yeah, because at that time, remember Tom didn't want anybody on the offensive line more than two eighty. Man, if they were two eighty,
they were you. And this guy comes in at three forty. Yeah, I meant Tom rafted the Senate. I think he was around two hundred and sixty pounds. Yeah, and little did we know thirty two years ago that on trade deadline day, which is also election, that herschel Walker would be running for United Senate one day. That's pretty gard. That's a huge circle, is a necessary circle. That is very good, William, I gotta admit because that's that's just as ridiculous as
all of this crap. They're talking and Bill what ticket is he running on? The Trump ticket? Everyone can figure that out. Yeah, the guy he played for, he's probably before he became a Dallas. Before he became a Dallas had a personal service. So yeah, you get out there for Congress. Okay, that's a trip down memory lane. Now we're get my god damn done. Okay, coming up next, Honey, big news, scary are you? Okay? Oh? I'm not Gary anymore. I'm Jennie Flash. What see? I want the latest smartphone,
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for tickets and more information. Not just cheerleaders, I mean you know, yeah, players out there too, right you Yeah, I've been out there. How come they don't put that? See? I told you? Whoever writes these it's players as well. I mean, you know, they give us all the slots. I've had mine get autographs from Dallas Cowboy cheerleaders and Everson Walls. No, I'd love to go out there again, but no, I'm just shot they didn't mentioned players because
definitely players to sign all the best. Well, I guess it depends what they're going out there to get autographs. Okay, where are we going? What do you think? We got one trade that came down today that of a notable player, Melvin ingram Is traded from Pittsburgh to Kansas City for a sixth round draft. And I looked at his stats and he was doing up resolutely nothing for the Steelers. And so we saw the Chiefs play last night against the Giants, so he could they could use all the
help they there? Yeah, because the Giants almost could have should have won that game. I was picking the Giants to win the game, win this game. Uh, if they have got out of their own way. We got some breaking news here after what that's two weeks? He played here a month and he played two games. Didn't play this last Thursday night he was inactive and my stat sheet says in two games twenty seven snaps and one tackle. The Cowboys have a need for a linebacker right now.
What's the status on jebral Cox. He is out. He tore his ACL and we'll have surgery. Yeah, oh man, Yeah, so the Cowboys have a need for a lot. Francis will take his place on the fifty three to come back. And Ill I trolled on Twitter, get right, yeah, yeah, we want that guy for It was I'd retweeted Chefter or whoever about Jalen being released and I said, Cowboys need a linebacker or whatever I mean. But when you see something like that, I guess it's justification for making
the move. Right. Initially, it was, you know, surprise to some people, not to us in this room, but also the disappointment from Van Derress and thinks that nature. I get it, man, that's your boy. You know your teammates got But man, if he ain't bawling, he ain't bawling, And this to you, you hate to see him go, but you gotta know you are a better defense without
him in the lineup. Yes, And and I don't know if they were playing him to possibly trade him, uh for somebody to see, Oh look what he's doing, because he did nothing to qualify the snaps he was getting, and he was taking snaps from other people. And as a as a you know, as a human being, you know, we hate to see people have to uproot their lives and yeah, move here and move there and things of that nature. But you know, as much as we make fun of it, it's just a part of the game.
It doesn't make it any easier for the player to have to move. And you know, I was blessed when I when I left, I went to New York. But you know, my my my wife is from here. We grew up together, so it's safer for them to stay home. I don't have to take them with me everywhere I go. That's the blessing that I had that stuff. They didn't have to get out of school and things that nature. Everyone's different. But at the same time, it's a business.
Well you know, that's so this this is for all the people that wanted to make a deal about it. Oh you're messing up the team chemistry. Oh what are you gonna do in the locker room? You know, Well, how are these players? You know? And my response was they got to worry about number one. Yes, they ain't worried about number two, and they also got to know that he wasn't making Yes, they knew. That's it. The players in the locker room goes back to what I said.
Players know the thing about Nate, right, and and they know so film don't lie. Yeah, certainly doesn't a lie. Well, I learned that in Yeah, I know. I learned that with Tom Landry Boy, who were running that joker back and forth on your man, like this is your thumb stuck, Why don't you move on with the play. No, he's got to make a point and that point will be made and everyone in there will know it. Yeah, and that's the thing. He sends a message through film black
and white back then it was back then. So yeah, no, no, Jalen and you know, Jerry mentioned, Mike mentioned, Stephen mentioned that, you know, they weren't going to be active in the trade market unless somebody called, and as Jerry and Jerry said, every time you call, the price goes up. I remember I learned that from Bob Accles because they were in a dispute with somebody. Wow Bob remember, yes, I do.
He was the personnel director kind of managing the cap and all that, and they were in a dispute with somebody, and I said, well, have you talked to him or his agent? He goes, no, I go, well why not? He goes, because every time I pick up the phone, I'm spending money like it's going to get more expensive. Right, that is very good. And so like Jerry said, if they're calling you, oh okay, we can listen. But if I'm calling for something, he goes, Now it's getting expensive.
So you don't want to be that guy. And and you know, and I don't know that they have a serious need to trade something. You know, Bill talked about the quarterback thing, and probably before Sunday, but got solidified, say before the second half, yeah, right half time. You're probably thinking, oh see before the last two minutes of the game. Yeah yeah, I mean think about it. No,
you're probably right. The Cowboys go three and out. Okay on that last possession, Yeah, okay, what are we talking about? After the game and they fall sixteen thirteen in Minnesota? Bat phone the bat phone sitting back, and you're looking for a veteran quarterback, right, So, and he didn't play poorly up until then, but they said halftime the number one scoring offense in the league had three points and Minnesota's defense wasn't all that they weren't and we found
that out as the game progressed. So other than the quarterback position, you know, everybody wants to know, well, what other position do you need? And I'm going, well, I need a defense of it. Oh, but Marcus Lawrence is coming back. I could use another defense tackle. Ok, wait, Gallimore's coming back. Right um wide receiver. You got Gallop coming back, and god forbid, you don't trade positions of strength to get a dark draft choice because the guy's
contracts next year. This team's six and one. You sense something special just might be happening here. Why would you do anything to diminish your roster for the future. There came off of probably the most, like you say, special, This was the most special game this year, right, it had. It had its own uniqueness over the as we talked
about the Patriots game. Patriots game was amazing, but this one was just a specially in its own right because of the backup situation, because of how we could have just gone in there, and also the fact that it caused us not to make another move on this team that we did not need to make, right absolutely, So why would you trade away anything. Somebody's like, well, Tennessee needs a running back that you might get a second for Tony Pollard. Okay, fine, and Emmett Zekiel gets hurt,
right and then what Clement? Seriously, so you would need a running back? So no, why would you do that? You you're you're in the catbird seat right now. We went from being the team that had the worst luck ever to where everyone thinks that we've got this luxury to sit dak until the playoffs start. Yeah, you know what I mean. We went from that team, we were the worst team with the worst stuff was happening to it. I see, it happened to every other team. Now you
saw what happened with Casey last night. I like that looked like the Cowboys last year or two years of the injury, not just the juries, but the goofy play. Yes, you know, he's trying to throw the ball to number one. Number nineteen thinks it's going to him. He reaches up and it deflects my home's pass that was going to number one and it ended up in an interception. That's the goofiness that we were looking at the last think you think to catch that Cooper made on that last drive.
It's a whole combat. It bounces off, the bounces off, a hand comes in and it's a big reception. That would not have happened last night before. Yeah, Yeah, or the last twenty four years before that. Yeah, because this is a special year. Um, all right. The best news though to come out of Mike McCarthy's press conference yesterday that Dak's ready. Dak is going to be a full go when they had their first full practice of the week on Thursday. Well, that's the if he gets the
padded right, right, That's what I mean. Yeah, Because they'll practice all goes well on Wednesday and he'll be a full It's expected that he'll be a full go on Thursday. And I think everybody needs to understand that what he did before the game on Sunday was what he had been doing all week. It wasn't It wasn't like all of a sudden they said, oh no, everyone thinking that
this was a workout. Yeah, it was his rehabs. He would have done that even if they didn't think he was going to play right, And that's probably why they brought him to the game in the first place. So he could work out with brit before the game and also too, and that's what he's also the fooler. Yeah, well, I'm sure. And Jerry talked about that too, by the way,
about the importance of not giving somebody. He said, unless they've got a camera up there watching your practice, you know, you don't need to give them any And I'm thinking, yeah, you're the one that would spill the beans. He's just spilling it now, be quiet. Yeah, so he goes, yeah, we don't need to give them any competitive advantage. Right, So that was pretty funny, but it sounds like he's he is ready to go. So really the only thing
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on that. Yeah, we got that's where Douglas Barriclow comes in. That's right. Speeds up your right, right, make it sound right, that's right, all right. I'm going to continue to check the trade deadline Twitter as we go along. Here. Let's something you want to talk to Randy Gregory. Yes, let's do that. Randy Gregory. Last night there got his fifth sack of the season. I predicted he would get ten, So he's halfway there in seven games. He's got a chance.
He was on Cowboys Hour last night with Bradsham and Shannon Gross and start talking to him about his maturity where he is not only on the team but in life, and talked about him having more of a leadership role, and Randy said it kind of came naturally. It wasn't forced. But here's what he had to say about him becoming a leader on this team. Naturally happened. I think that's
the best way. I know. I was kind of put in a leadership counsel and things like that, but uh, you know, the best thing for me is is kind of let me leave my own way and naturally grow into that that that spot, that role, And I mean I can't say enough about coach McCarthy. You know, Rob Davis a d DQ everyone, Um so are his coaches go and in front office believing in me to to be that type of leader. And I'm still learning every day.
I have to check myself, you know, sometimes when I want to take the shortcut, and I have to realize there's a lot of guys that are looking at me. If they see me that shortcut, maybe they take it too. And that's not championship football. So I'm growing into that role still. There's a lot of guys that are also and um, it's only going to make us better. I really feel like it's it's helping me up my game
on the field. So Randy Gregory and if anybody gets a chance, um you can go to Dallas Cowboys dot com and call up the Cowboys Hour and listen to his interview. He was really good, really good about talking about the team, the defense, his life being in an order, not just and he said, and he said, I finally figured out my personal life was tied to my professional life. As my personal life got in order, my professional life got in order. And as you guys can see, he's
playing awfully awfully well right now. And boy, if he can hold down to fort till DeMarcus Lawrence gets back and you get both of those guys on the field
at the same time exactly. And and the neat thing that I don't know if anybody noticed this, but they've been doing it the last couple of days games m when they've gone into times when it's just an absolute definite passing situation and they know that he's been getting chipped on the edge, they've moved him to a stand up basically in the middle and letting him hit the gaps he and Parsons and they will also stunt him into the gap right there, so they're not going to
allow him just to keep getting chipped on the outside. You know, I guess that's a compliment, but you know, it doesn't feel like a compliment when you're getting hit. He's so fast off the line. Um. When they saw the sack he had on Cousins way, he actually stripped the ball and Cousins fell down on top of it. Came off so fast and he actually passed the quarterback and that to come back. That's just so much speed. You know. What's one of the beautiful things about that.
That allows the Cowboys to do that too, is Parson speed at linebacker, because whether whether it's stunning Gregory into the middle or lining him up as a stand up rusher from there, you could also stand up Parsons. And then Parsons is fast enough to get to the outside in case they were able to break out out of the pocket right and he run down somebody exactly. The center can only help one of the one side right.
He can't get both right and so so basically Parsons can cover the edge while Gregory goes up the middle. So Gregory h after he makes the sack that he keeps going outside outside, outside, then he gets a couple of penalties and which we're bs, and so he's upset. The first thing he does, he stunts inside on his own. Right. He had to know what's coming because he ran right into Cooks. Uh yeah, and and and and guess who was there when Cooks came. I mean, r Randy almost
took the hand off. He almost so fast, man so fast. But you know, as he talked about it, really the best thing about this interview is it's the kind of what we talked about last week. How important this is for him. We talked about DAK and coming back from and you know how monumentous that was for him just as a person to be able to come back and
be successful after something so devastating. Well, Grandy Gregory has had a couple of years where he's had to deal with not a physical injury, but this is all his making, and it's all about his mental making and his mental health, and for him to be able to come on the other side of that is one thing to play as well as he's playing is another thing to be considered a leader. Let's just kind of back up a little bit, right, Let's let him go at his own pace. Okay, let's
let them lead by his play. He says the right things. You know, he sounds very good when he says. You can tell the guy's you know, studying. Yeah, he's not some dummy sitting back there. This guy's contemplative about so many things in life and he's had that time to think about that. So to me, let's just do let's just take some baby steps here, Yes, let him just
be a leader by his play exactly. Just back up a little bit and not put too much pressure on because this is what's more important right now than physical one other thing he said that, and I hadn't heard this before. He said, his mom and dad moved to Texas to be around him nice, to kind of help out. And I remember meeting his dad when he was a rookie maybe or maybe the next year at a preseason game,
and his dad military guy too. Yeah, So he came up to me, introduced himself, and he said, I just want you to know that, you know, my son's not a bad guy and he's not a dummy. And he goes, I know he's got his problems and we're trying to work through him. And you know, it took him a couple of years to understand his personal life and who
he hung around with was affecting his professional life. And he mentioned his girlfriend how she's, you know, his rock now and helps out, keeps him kind of in line when he's and then he said something about it at home and he said something aboudy, Yeah, I've learned to listen, and Brad goes, yeah, that's a good thing for your marriage. Just like it was. It was pretty funny, but it's a good It's a really good interview. Um, and I
think we all know how important. It is in any profession when you have loved ones to support you and and all of that, that's that's major. Yeah, you know, you just you just can't replace that with anything superficial, you know, because that support you have, that love you have in your family, it is real and sometimes you don't want to hear real, you know, but you need it and that's that's what they're there for. I was blessed with I'm sure you guys as well. So you
want to move on to left tackle left tackle? Yeah, And I didn't like that what came out of Jerry during the interview this morning on one h five three the Fan when he was talking about Lale Collins and he kept mentioning, yeah, and there's a spur and he kept saying spur. Well, it sounds like Lale collins ankle
sprain is not really a sprain. He's got a bone spur in there that's been given him problems and normally, you know, if he can get through this, that's something that normally in the offseason you take care of the surgery, you go in there and shave off the spur or whatever you do. So, um, you know they're gonna see now Kellen Moore said yesterday about left tackle. If Tyrn can't play, he said, the game plan might dictate who
ends up playing there. So to me, to me, the only two, the only two real alternatives they have is to put Lale Collins at left tackle, or you move Terrence Steel the left tackle and Colins plays right tackle. To me, now, they got through the game with the Ski in there at left tackle, struggling a lot, and even when struggling and strangling, yes, he's strangling. Got gotta, Yes, I don't know where that comes from. So which do
you do? And you gotta and you do it starting tomorrow? Yes, because McCarthy was asked how well did Niseki play and he said he did better against the run, he struggled in past protection. To me, past protection, that that's an optimum when you got exactly what I tell me. Steele
plays left tackle, Collins plays right tackle. And the reasoning behind that would be when the Cowboys the last half of training camp, maybe more, when they were practicing the second offensive line, Steele had art it off at right tackle. He ended up at left tackle, and the Seci ended up at right tackle. So to me, that was telling me they were interviewing Steele to be the backup swing tackle. It's like they knew he can play right, now can
you handle left. I don't know what kind of grade he got out there, but that's the way they finished. So Steele has played left tackle. They both played left tackle, but in the NFL. In the NFL, Steele has played left tackle right and and Leale hadn't played left tackles since LSU and we we aren't sure in Collins is coming off hip surgery last year, and we say it
hasn't played since one game since twenty nineteen. So I would put him at the most comfortable place that he would be um and since Steele has played in this season in training camp at left tackle, you play and you're not really switching two positions there, right, you're switching one.
You're switching Steel to left tackle. Collins is playing going back where he started off right, so it's not like you're changing two things, right, and he's played next to Martin before, that's no big deal on the right side. So if they think Steel can handle the left side in a game. But again credit to this coaching staff, they've compensated for lack of experience. Yes, lack of talent even right, they didn't do like they did to poor Chaz Green and whoever else they tried out there. And
let me let me qualify what I just said. That comes from someone who has not seen them in practice or this regular season. Just like when I'm talking about, Okay, they got to get an experienced quarterback in here. Well, I haven't seen Cooper Rush in practice to know. Yeah, and so what Cooper Rush did on Sunday Night shows you. Yeah, these coaches do know what they're doing. They see things in practice that you know, they the media may not
see exactly. I may not even know what Kellen Moore talked about the game plan and he said, you know, we didn't radically change it because I've seen what Cooper Rush could do in practice. I've seen, uh, you know, his composure, his poise, his times when I wish they would have changed it. Yeah, because I'm like his dad, we need to run the ball now. Yeah, I'm still with dad. So first and goal at the four, you want run the ball except for Cooper, except for Cooper
and CD right, see he wanted that that play. And we're out of time on this edition already. But there was another trade that happened since we last were on the air. That affects Sunday's game. Okay, all right von Miller, Yes, oh, because Denver m so that was huge. I haven't seen Denver play a lot. He's been hurt though, hasn't he He came back. He came back one game and vowed to play up to his past abilities, and he ended up getting injured in that game. I believe that was
a Monday night or Sunday night game. So yeah, that was recent. That was the last couple right. Here's the report that's out right now on it. A source with direct knowledge of the situation tells Pro Football Network that Von Miller became upset when teammates declined to kick in for his annual Halloween party, a massive affair with a six figure price tag. That is that I do know of because I keyed to lead, you know, used to
be in high school and he's gone to those parties. Yes, that Miller's request for financial help came as a surprise to his teammates. They had assumed they were invited guests to the party, not co host Miller. Anyway, it's out there, but yes, he does have sources say from but but they didn't post haven't commented on his play, right, you know everybody is making a big deal out of all
the Rams. Now they're gonna be unbeatable. Well, you're not getting von Miller from MVP seasons right, same same thing, you know, same thing with the contracts coming up. The linebacker from Pittsburgh that got traded Kansas, he does have four and a half sacks this season, okay, and they's played in one, two, three, four and just got him listed here five six, seven games, so he's played all Okay, I only had thirty three snaps. I thought he only had got injured in the game he got he had
to come out of a game. Okay, Cleveland, he had thirty three snaps. That was their last game, and um he actually was last week's game and prior to that, he had maxed out at fifty eight snaps two weeks before that against Pittsburgh. So okay, all right, well that was probably the game he came out. Maybe he can't help out, but Pittsburgh traded But it's not our problem now now it's Mike McCarthy said, if you fully fully approve that trade, that was a good timing one less
headache to deal with. All Right, That does it for this edition of Mixed Shots. When we come back on Wednesday, we'll talk about all the deals the Cowboys made by three o'clock to Cowboys. This has been a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club.
