Mick Shots: Going Deep

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It's Christmas morning here on Mickshot. We open the presence later today, but we do know that the Cowboys will be playing in the Everson Walls Bowl just kick off the twenty twenty four season. Both question marks, question marks form over the heads of everyone the Everson Walls Bowl. Well, yes, of course Everson Walls was a Dallas Cowboy, but he was also a Cleveland Brown. The first iteration of the Cleveland Brown remind me. And welcome to mix Shots inside

Stars in five can we get it done? There you go, I'm so excited.

As they have to go on down.

Oh two man, Well that was the other Now again.

No, I didn't think they'd be here at all. Oh yeah, I didn't think they'd be here at all. I'm like, oh man, yeah, they're gonna be like the Cowboys.

I love it.

They have the chance to close it out and we'll see if they get it done and then have a little time off before they play Vancouver or Edmonton.

We're gonna find out.

And that game starts at seven o'clock tonight and what else happens at seven o'clock to night?

Schedule movie gets revealed.

So make you are you going to have your focus on the stars or on where you're going to be in the fall?

Both?

Okay, you can multitask.

That's right.

Great, game will be on and finish my mix shots for Dallas Cowboys dot Com. Can't ignore the schedule.

Right, No, that's exactly right.

You don't have a heads up on the schedule. Yeah, you can't early release now.

Yeah maybe six forty five.

No, that's that's not but we can't.

Do anything with it until seven.

So, so how is everybody doing. It's been a busy last week or so, as we had rookie mini camp over the weekend and an opportunity yesterday for Mickey Savannah.

Were you there?

I was to talk to some coaches to probe.

The new coaching staff, the old guys on the staff, the new guys on the staff.

And Savannah was there for the mini camp too. Yep, rookie mini camp over.

Yeah we can.

We'll get into it, but I first want to ask ask, how is ever since because you've been I an.

I missed you, guys, We missed you, guys. I was gone last week.

What was that?

You're playing golf?

Playing golf? Yeah?

What was I?

I remember, well, I've had too golf turners.

That's why we moved off of Monday this week so that we can.

Exactly thank you so much. But can you give me a range?

Then?

How about that since I was just so accommodating. Now I had a good time. I have actually learned to play golf better.

You know.

I played better than I used to play like Mickey. Now play a little bit better than that.

All right, So and we play at Cliff's golf tournament.

You're going to kill you.

You can give me tips. You can give me tips.

Can't you never play?

You always riding?

I know now I played that. I'm telling you, I'm getting better, getting better.

I'm going to the driving range this evening, and uh no, I've actually gotten better. I couldn't believe I actually hit some shots that you know in the scramble that they use. So now I'm starting to to like hanging around with you guys. Otherwise I just sit around top trash man, you know, messing with people's game.

My goal telling jokes, My goal.

On those scrambles is to try to have them use five of my shots.

That's not gonna happen. Not five.

I've gotten to five before.

Okay, that's well, put it don't count.

Man.

I need you. I need that approach shot from one fifteen hours.

Now you're asking for what I'm saying.

I need that six for one fifty five.

Where I come in handy is on the drive. Everybody screws up their drive and I just hundred yards right down in the middle.

He rolls it right down the middle.

I hate those guys. You're only there because everyone else messed up. That used to be. That is not me anymore, I feel.

So it's like, go ahead, you guys, go for it.

You know, we talk about you behind your back right when you do stuff like that.

Why is that because you suck? I mean, that's what I was.

That guy I played, How did you improve your game?

Just nuances until he has tooke lessons first.

No, no, I actually I played the guy uh at Thorn Tree and he taught me some shots, but I had already come with some some improvement. And uh, trust me, boys, I know about the six.

R from so far out. Come on.

I'm on it, all right, I'm on this baby, Damn right, damn man, I'm on it. I played this weekend, So I played this weekend at Bear Creek. So I'll take some videos for you.

Well, and we've been finding out along how athletic Savannah is, and we can add one more skill.

Horse there you go? All right, did you get it?

Yes?

We had?

Okay, So just to paint the picture here, we had our Cowboys brand retreat this last Monday.

So a whole bunch of us, me and Mickey had signed up for the horse back riding.

They took us out to a big mega ranch past Glen Rose, Texas called Rough Creek, really really cool. So we went on a big trail ride. And I know we sent you guys some pictures of Mickey and I on the.

Horse, but it was it was quite an adventure.

Scare the horse, and savannahs sent that picture. I thought Mickey was training to uh for the Preakness this week.

In I might have been, but the horse wasn't. I guarantee that.

I thought Savannah lost the bed of something.

At least at least Savannah.

Savannah line was a little like to gallop a little bit.

So Savannah's horse listened to Savannah. My horse didn't listen.

What was your name? What was the name of your horse, Jeepz.

Mine was Rea, my girl. She was the best.

She was the best.

Mickey. Mickey had a slow start on his horse. He you know, he was back at the trail.

I don't like the horses, man. They don't listen.

No, they don't.

They don't.

They're worse than.

Their heads are so big. Bro. They scare me, man, they scare me.

They you try to pet it and then they, you know, might move their head around and hitching the face.

I'm not dealing with horses, bro, thin could have that.

Mine wouldn't go, and it was like, come on, let's go, and it wouldn't go. And then somebody goes, wait, it's going into the bathroom.

It was going was going.

But the best part was just there was a point where.

It was like a faucet.

That's funny.

The saddle it was like lopsided.

So Vicky was like hanging on at one point for like, dear life, lean into the left, you did just so.

But we made we made peace though he finally got us.

You know what.

The funny thing goes when we were coming back and we were within eyesight of the stables, them horses started going really like, this is almost over. We're getting there because we're going to rest. Yeah, yeah, it's pretty funny.

That's all right. Had a time.

Yeah, speaking of Riba Riba McIntyre football players on the no there are I can't see the football players on the football field because it looks like you know what, it reminds me.

Ofde that's right.

There's there's so many r v's out on the practice field right now. It reminded me of Barnhill South. Remember Barnhill South, which was Reunion Arena in Dallas, the old Southwest Conference basketball tournament when the University of Arkansas was in the Southwest Conference and they there would be so many r v's. Arkansas was always dominant basketball in the

Now, tomorrow right ay, CMS Awards, Reba McIntyre. They're already got the plaza going outside, food trucks, bands playing all day. We'll starting now, but the ceremonies tomorrow night.

So they're doing like live music out on the plaza. They did it all day yesterday, all day today, tonight, and then yeah, tomorrow's the actual awards show.

Yeah, okay, okay, the Academy of Country Music Awards, hosted by Reba mcintile. Wow, the fifty ninth ACM Awards. Uh tell me, Everson, how many of these artists do you have on your playlist? Jason Alden, Jelly Roll.

Yeah, I don't have it, but I know who you.

Cody Johnson, Miranda Lambert, Yes, Thomas Rhett, Chris Stapleton know all those?

Okay, No, none of them sounds like a rapper.

Before we get into this schedule, give a shout out to Bill Jones with The Mavericks, with everybody talking about how they melted down in the last game when they lost to Oklahoma City. Well, two things. Number One, when you're only winning by six or seven the most points in most of the fourth quarter, you didn't melt down. You got your ass beat. Number Two, the reason they melted down is their professional football player basketball players that

They were like, twelve twelve three. How does an NBA basketball team make that doesn't have shock on it make twelve out of twenty three free throwers?

I bet I.

Could go out there right now and hit twelve out of time.

I guarantee. Well, I don't know you can, but I can't.

I think I can.

I can't.

I wasn't that great free throw sho.

You know what, I was a great free throw shoot Whenever there's a technical foul, I.

Believe it.

I was so bad and wrec league when I was missing so much, I'd go and do it underhand. See if it changed.

You know what. You know what's pressure. This is my sophomore year in high school. This is pressure. Okay, you're playing in the JV game, and so now the varsity crowd is in the gym. Now I'm getting ready for the varsity game. And you get fouled at the end of the game and you're trailing by two and you have to make two free throws with no time left on the clock to force overtime.

Is there anyone on the courts.

And nobody's on the It's just you.

It's just you. I love that.

Yeah, that was my greatest claim to fame. And hit hit them both?

Did win over time? Did you win it?

I don't even remember if we were in the game or not. That's all I remember.

You should have gone on and shot for Luca with ten seconds left.

I mean, you know what what's going on with Luca?

Well?

First off about the free throws? How do you shoot a free throw?

What do you mean?

I mean, what's your form? What what do you do on a free throw? Okay, the ball is getting exactly Derek Lively, he gets the ball and shoots.

That was it. You can't shoot a.

Free throw with out You gotta.

Get your rhythm, you know, and maybe get that seems right.

Throw.

I was taught at a young age by an old Dallas Chaparral named Cincy Powell.

Oh, come on, man, you don't know anything about Cincy Powell, do you know?

Since of course I know him, since Cincy Powell Clinic AB at the Lee Park Recreation Center in Irving, And and what I remember from that as an eight or nine year old was you dribble three times and then shoot the free throw and elbow in shoot the free throw.

I taught it to my girls, and I need to go out there and teach it to the Dallas Mavericks.

Sin Hey, So my country guy is Kenny Wayne Shepherd. That's the only song that I have. That's the only country I was.

Trying to find.

What's the song?

Uh? Trust?

Okay, it's called trust Trust. Not a bad song at all. Love, I love you. I love guitar solos. That's one thing that white people brought to my to my attention when we integrated, because I was just you know, r and bright soul. Then all of a sudden, here comes freaking Jimmy, you know, it comes, you know, led Zeppelin, and I'm falling in love with the with the lead guitar. I love the solos. Kenny Wayne Shepherd can play a solo.

Okay, One one more basketball note? Okay, Hamilton Park I texted to you the other day and I said, who's the second greatest athlete out of Hamilton Park?

I said, lot Fider Lockhart.

Played for the New York I said, I was first, and you're yeah, That's why I asked him the second. You know there's a player in this then this Mavericks thunder series, it's from Highland Park, Hamilton because yeah, Casey Wallace, come on, who bought the Kyrie Irving shot the other night too?

A player?

Yeah, and for a rookie to be have such a strong role on this team, it gives us a whole lot of pride.

And bottom line, on the free throws Oklahoma City, yeah they made twenty three or twenty four.

Come home.

Man, that's coaching though, right to me, that's coaching. You got to know what to work on. The Mavericks are missing free throws because they are not hit there missing free throws because it's not emphasized.

You know.

But Jason said in this post game press conference that the Mavericks they're human, and they practice free throws, and they practice putting on their uniform too. They practice putting on their uniform and they practice.

Well do that.

They got the un.

Which By the way, why aren't you in.

Oklahoma City because the Stars are going to win the series tonight. No, I'm got to because the schedules coming back.

I forgot schedule. Yeah, the schedule show.

So speaking of the schedule, yes, we know who they are playing. I will find out the order.

Do you want to review who they're playing?

You ought me to real quick home games? NFC East, Detroit, New Orleans, Tampa Bay, Houston, Baltimore, and Cincinnati.

What's the easy way to remember that they're playing against?

Oh, I see the first place, well, the first place finishers in the division. That they don't play the whole deal and then they play the.

That's why they're playing Detroit.

NFC South and the a f C North.

So they've got Tampa Bay and New Orleans coming here from the from the n f C South and from the a f C North. They've got who coming here?

A f C, a f C.

North. Yes, they have coming here for the a f C North.

No, it's not the a f C North, is it?

Let me see Baltimore.

It's it's schedule. It's Houston, Cincinnati, Pittsburgh, and Cleveland. Is that the North?

Wow, they're playing Houston here here's the reason they're playing Houston here, Pittsburgh, Cleveland, Baltimore and Cincinnati.

But which are the home games from the a f C North was my question.

Baltimore and Cincinnati. There you go, Okay, sorry, all right, now he is the first place A right south.

Or whatever.

Now the road game road games from the San Francisco and.

The reason they're playing San Francisco they were a first place team from the West.

At Atlanta and Carolina, they're from the NFC South, and then Pittsburgh and Cleveland. It's very simplified how the NFL does it. So it's AFC North and NFC South for the Cowboys. Well, here's what you need to really understand, because the Cowboys, the Cowboys supposedly, well not supposedly technically, are tied for the twelfth most difficult schedule. Their opponents finished six and one forty three last year. But the

So the Cowboys helped Cleveland has the toughest schedule.

Yeah, yeah, So the Cowboys play the top one, two, three, four, five of the top six teams with the hardest strength of schedule, and that's because their twelve and five record helps that out.

Got that, got it, got it, and go my mind is mush now after all that.

Well, you just need to remember it's not easy. It's not easy.

And the Cowboys had like the easiest schedule last year.

Yeah, supposedly, and they didn't take advantage of it other than to finish twelve and five.

That's taking advantage of it.

Yeah, I know. But you've got to take advantage of the.

Playoff to be able to when you got to take advantage they did for the season.

Yeah, which means nothing.

Yeah, what's their strength is scheduled in the playoffs?

Well it was nine.

Eight, all right, we got plenty to get to. I want when to get your impressions on what you saw in the freshman orientation over the weekend and talking with the assistant coaches when we come back here on mix shots.

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That was impressive, very nice bill.

That was just made up off off the Academy of Country Music website.

You should do that for let's say he seemed too eager.

I didn't say what time it starts, though, it starts at seven o'clock Central time.

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All right? Back to football guys, how about that? All right?

Rookie Minnie camp last week, Mickey was not here. I was here, so last Friday Saturday got to cover some of the portions of these rookies coming in and I just got to say, these guys were the most enthusiastic I have ever seen that, just smiling out on the football field, so happy to be there. Tyler Geiton just bride eyed, butchy tailed, ready to go. I guess he was like just really going at it.

Like.

Wow, why they were smiling because the veteran's worn't out there?

Oh that's this week exactly, That's right, yeah, exactly.

But very very impressed with a few guys who we talked to, Uh starting with Cooper Beebee and when Mickey had started talking about how much he really loved him, I think after talking to him, I realized why he really is just a no nonsense like down to it. So a lot of people were asking him, how are you making this transition to the center position, and fundamentally he was saying, I'm already starting to work on it.

So I have some audio from.

Him as far as where he starts in this process learning center.

So right after Draft called me and said, you start working on center. So ever since then, I've been working.

I need a little volume there. But yeah, I'm sure he's a guy that will take this very very seriously.

He One of the questions that was asked was how he prepares fundamentally for this position. So he said a lot of it's self discipline, looking through the playbook, watching film, getting with coach Solari to visualize the kind of thing. It's really doing all that stuff on your own time to get you mentally prepared. But one thing that I really liked is when he was with the rookies at

Got down there. Yeah, he's right to roll carry a football with him at all times.

Right, try, that's good.

How are we doing there, Chris, give me a second? Okay, So anyway, anybody else make an impression on you other than BB and understand folks that they really don't play football. There's twenty seven guys or whatever out there, first year guys that didn't really play, and then the rookies and rookie undrafted rookies, which, by the way, they signed twelve undrafted rookies. How many undefted rookies did you have in eighty one, twenty five? Twenty five that made it to training camp?

Yeah?

How about pre chraine one.

Hundred and twenty five rookies? Overall, there's twenty five dbs.

Oh you mean DBB.

One hundred and twenty five When you went for the two weeks before the veterans got there.

I was twenty five. I told you I didn't. It was certain times I didn't get to a drill. He didn't even real Yeah, like, oh that looks good, Okay, I remember that because we didn't get a chance to play it.

Did you look around and say, why is this guy here?

Oh, yes, I should did, and that's what got me pissed off a lot.

Uh huh.

So yeah, when I was I was always pissed off before I got there because you know, I went undrafted, so you know, I was all I was just looking for reasons to be pissed off at that time.

HBCU. You know it's a black thing. You know.

You know a guy Kevin Miller from Michigan State. You had a guy from Ohio State who ran track. Hey, well come on in, Like, why do.

You have to this right after the draft? Or was is a training camp? This is after the draft, right after the draft. So it was right in your camp camp, right the street from Hamilton.

Oh yeah.

And then I was I was searching to see how many draft choices and undrafted free agents made it to the start of training camp. I couldn't find the number. But the story that kept coming up was this guy really standing out that no one knew anything about. It was Everson Walls, and they wanted it was It wasn't a local story. And one of the things they asked him was, well, what kind of forty time do you have that everything goes four point seventy one.

That's what they all told me. So that's what I took with me. I should have put it on my damn chest.

So but yeah, I should have worn number forty seven.

No, okay, So, yes, yesterday we got we got back in time for yeah, right, we got back in time yesterday for the assistant coaches interviews, both coordinators, and then the defensive assistance and the offensive assistance and uh top of importance, I guess ended up being and BB moving

And then yeah, so Lari also was talking about how comfortable he has seen Geiton already like process that position. So I think he said it's kind of a smooth transition right now. But overall, the O line room is so great having the vets now in with the rookies because you have Zach Martin out there as the lead and then you have guys like you know, brock Hoffman and Terrence Steele and Tyler Smith that's in there. Finally in the room with these guys to give them a little bit more mental reps is.

What he said.

Not necessarily physical, but you start getting those mental reps of what it takes.

And then another top of discussion was running back by committee. And my question is how big is the committee, right? And who's on the committee? Because you got all these guys right, and let's not forget Hunter Lipke. Does he part of the committee because he's a full back? And then are we assuming that Rico Dondele, you know, who's the lead dog. You know, you can't send them both out there at the same time. They're really happy what

Well?

All I know is he could hit home runs. In the home run without taking batting practice, right, So I and it was like, Okay, you come out and say running back by committee, Well what does that mean? Because if Zeke's playing well, you're gonna say, now you get ten carries a game and Donald gets fifteen. And what about Deuce Vaughn, what about Royce Freeman? You know, does he fit in? Does he make the team. So there's

And we lost big Man. So then he's going to be the guy Jonathan Hank, Yeah, he's going to be a new guy.

They asked Zim about his temperament. He goes, what's that supposed to me? Just like he didn't know what they were talking about, and so he said, you know, da da da da. And then he got to the point he goes, I don't like mistakes, and he goes, and he's going to be on the sideline. That's where he's always been. And he said, and basically, I tell the guys, if you screw up and you come to the sideline, you better go to the other end of the bench

He said.

Basically, he said, put your hands on the center and be violent. That's all you got to do. So they feel like they're asking him to do more what he was doing at Michigan. Than what they were asking him to do this past season as a rookie.

When he came out, he was considered I think they had a category.

He was like the stud of the year or something.

Right, the Bruce Feldman spreaks list three college football.

Players when you have that kind of a you know, mantra going and you can lift all these weights and all of that.

Now to buy new equipment in the Michigan the weight room for Mazi.

So they should be this should be they want him square to the line of scrimmage.

If you have that kind of a reputation, right then this should be simple.

Yeah, I mean not easy, but simple. Yeah, he turned it out.

Is one thing, put your irons on the center and be violent.

And so the assignment that Zim gives Mazzi is as a one technique is hold the fort.

In there exactly exactly.

And by the way, they drafted a guy in the seventh round out of Auburn, Justin Rodgers, who fits that description to at six two, three hundred and thirty two pounds.

Yeah, and evidently he was pretty good at that at Auburn. He had been at Kentucky first, is that right? Maybe he transferred to Auburn.

So him losing weight, that was.

I don't know if he did it. I don't. I have no idea.

Because it's counterintuitively. Yes, exactly, so.

Yeah, he lost over twenty almost thirty pounds.

It's not.

Over the course of the season. So so anyway.

He started eating better, more potatoes, I guess, huh.

And the other thing is when when So they're talking to Zim about Michael Parsons, and you know, is he a linebacker? Is the defensive end And the most Mike would allude to is he'll be in different spots.

Smart, So I wouldn't give him anything.

The idea, and I think he said this a couple of times. He goes, we want to make sure they have to turn their protection away from Michaeh Parsons. So the way they line up, there are protections going to have to go somewhere else. Whether they're going to be in trouble, well, we need.

To word not necessarily worry about fooling them, but make sure that we don't get fooled. Right, So he has to show up on his recognition talking about Parsons, he has to recognize better we're depending on him, not just for sacks. There are times when he gets in there, Yeah, we need you to stop to run now, And when he goes in there, his mentality seems to be one sided.

Am I right?

Yes, he needs to show that he can be more than one trick, more than one trick fourth year, fourth, fourth year. Wow, it's definitely time for him to show something better.

Three years of thirteen thirteen or more sacks thirteen.

Thirteen and a half, fourteen sacks look good, good for stats, but you got to do.

More to run And as then pointed out, we all we all know this. He goes if you got him on the line of scrimmage, chances are they're going to run right at him.

That's right.

If that's what you know, his responsibility is. You don't want you don't want him to track down from behind. You go right at him and at one hundred and fifty one hundred and fifty, two fifty or two fifty five against three thirty. Right, it's a bad mismatch.

But you got to be smarter.

Yeah, I mean Freenni Dwhight Freennie about the same size. I mean, he was a force to be wackoned.

But his body was different than Parsons. Parsons not built like a defensive end. He's built like a linebacker to me.

But you gotta use what's good for you. First of all.

He's got to be smart enough to be in position. That's number one. Second ball, that's when you use your your athletic ability after you mentally put yourself in position. That's just football, right, And he's not. He's not developing quickly mentally as as I would like for him too.

And even if they run at you, that's fine, Just don't get out of position right now.

He's like you said, hold down the edge. Yeah he does not.

Sometimes he just opens up the door, right because he's looking for that sack. I'm sure that.

I'm sure Zimmo is going to work work on him with that. I'm sure.

Yeah.

More of the focus of what Yeah, we can I continue with this right.

We started this segment with Tyler Bebe, the third round draft pick out of Kansas State, and I understand from producers Supreme that we might be able to actually hear from Cooper BB.

Now, so right after draft, coach sorry called me and said, you know, start working on center. So ever since then, I mean I've been working on my snaps that kind of thing, and doing doing different zoom calls and stuff before this, just to get ready and just preparing myself, you know, doing the stuff at home, just to get ready to you know, make sure I know myself.

It just depends.

I mean, just I mean, anybody that'll that'll catch I mean, that's really the biggest thing for me is I mean just any time, like I'll be in the hotel, I'll be taking snaps, you know, in the ballroom that kind of thing. So just anytime I can just oh yeah, absolutely yeah. I had my dad out there catching my little brother and just you know, whoever was available.

So fun fact about Cooper BB. His younger brother plays at Kansas State now, so he Cooper BB he wanted to stay a fifth year to play a season with his brother.

And then another fun fact.

About Cooper is he's actually getting his master's degree right now in education. So he's gonna have quite a year being a rookie and getting his master's degree.

Could you see the kids. Hey a teacher, he's huge.

All right?

We continue with more mix shots in just a moment.

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All right, nickey, we're running out of time here. On this edition of Mixship, I found my quote from Zim J. Mozzi Smith.

He said, obviously he's a high draft pick. I heard that he kind of struggled last year. I loved what he said, I heard struggled. He said, we're going to start with the basics. Get him in a good stance, get him using his hands the right way, getting his footwork the right way, and kind of go from there. I talked to him a little bit meaning on Monday, and I asked him what weight do you feel comfortable at? And he said that I'm told that he's three oh five.

So what I mean, I think it was.

Labor hom or whatever in your shoulder that he had it after that after the he and uh schoolmaker schoonmaker.

Yeah, top two picks from last year.

So yeah, both had shoulders repair now. So so anyway, that was kind of what Zim said, and he goes, you know, he has to be in a He said he was trying to be an attacking three technique to get up the field. We're going to be able to play blocks a little bit more than that and try not to get reads, so linebackers know what gaps they're supposed to fill instead of the offensive lineman getting through where the gap was supposed to be.

So that's h I recall when I was with the Giants, one of their strengths was attacking the bubble break, busting the bubble so that guard, when that guard, those guards come off the line of scrimmage, you're going to be met with a linebacker and his head's going to be

One in defense.

They he made sure and eliminated that guard's released down the field.

The other thing I noticed I got my first chance to see Jeff Segon. Is that how you said, defensive line coach? And he looks like a defensive line man and he's got those defensive lineman eyes. And he walked in and somebody asked him kind of an off the cuff question, just trying to be funny, and he looked at him and stared, he goes, so that's how we're gonna begin. And I said, oh, okay, this is a sense, dude.

When at rookie minicamp, we could see him in the backfield with the d lineman and he I mean, he was down with his hands on the field, just like walking him through every single step. So he has that player mentality and.

Him Well, you got two former players coaching the defensive line with Greg Allis and him going about their business.

Greg's guy.

Yeah, yeah, he's a nice guy.

Yeah.

Yeah, worked out pretty well when he had a former player coaching the defensive line back in the sixties and seventies. Here Ernie Serietner.

Yeah, hall of.

Famer, the youngest Hall of Fame in history.

He was pretty no nonsense too. You didn't want to mess with Ernie.

Yeah. I don't ever remember him smiling that much, that's right. Yeah, there.

Actually, you had a bunch of guys that didn't smile. I don't think Gene Stallings was smiling much now.

But Jimmie was the coolest. Jerry was the nicest guy.

Remember Dick. He was that my rookie year. I was I had too much going on. I don't remember a special team.

Yeah, they didn't make you play special teams.

They did, But I don't remember the guy. I don't remember him.

One year.

Yeah, I should have remembered that eighty one, right, he was there. Yeah, I don't remember.

I hadn't yet. I should I should remember that. That's crazy.

Coach Myers was pretty serious.

Yeah, please don't. That's the least of what you call him. He was not fun.

Yeah didks last year as a coach here was in eighty one.

That's crazy.

He was his system head coach and special teams coordinator.

Life, Man, tell you, I haven't really been busy all right, final minute or so?

Here?

You got a mix shot for us? Give us, give us something to close on.

I got a mixed shot. Brady's making all this damn money. He's going to be the announcer for the Cowboys yep so and seventy five million dollars for ten years.

So do you think Tyler Goyton still had the smile on his face at practice after the schedule release came out that the Cowboys are opening at Cleveland and Miles Garrett.

I don't know about the smile, but he's probably like, let's get to work. He moved down here two days after he got drafted and was like, let's start training. So he was over at the sports academy next door just keeping He's like ready to roll.

Did he have that much enthusiasm at you? I don't recall, Okay.

Well, he wasn't there that long. He was just I mean he started five games is second to last year there.

Bill can be kind of a joke when it comes to his alumni. You know, he really expects a lot. He is still just disappointing Jalen. You know, he's not crazy about guy. I don't understand that was you were like I thought you were like boom of Sona.

I think most people are like that. Mickey. Are you crazy about all of your Missouri players that come out?

I'm objective about it, That's right.

That's what I am. I'm objective about.

Him because they they the Cowboys signed uh Pete, the Missouri running back. Yeah he was a backup. Okay, so they let the best one get to San Francisco who led the sec and rushing and didn't get drafted. So don't feel too bad.

But maybe Nathaniel Pete was just as good. He just didn't get the opportunity that Trader did.

Know he had the opportunity of the year before and struggled at times, let's put it that way.

So he started his career at Stanford, yes he did, and then about on special teams.

He was a local guy.

Oh you shaved. Oh my god, thank you jeez. He was looking like a bumma out of here. Man, you say you look good.

Your hair like there's something different.

I want to tell you though, at least you're in the top three, because only three people noticed that I had shaved, or at least said something yeah, yeah, yeah, you're number three. Well good, all that grade is going right. So so I'll leave you with this. When Jeff Blasco was talking about Zeke and they asked him about, you know, short yards and stuff like that, and he goes yeah, he goes, uh, he's a can of kick ass in that department. M So Zeke will find his way on

Gonna be a year grinding. This is gonna be a grinding year. It's gonna be a tough grinding.

Well, it's gonna be a to schedule.

We'll be off for.

Trust well Monday, Yes, that's right, and that's when we reconvene here on mix shots Monday at eleven am and enjoy your scale to release stars clinching MAVs getting a leg up on the Thunder Wednesday night and we'll see on Monday.

Go Stars, Go MAVs.

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