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Mick Shots: Free Agent Primer

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With NFL free agency right around the corner, the guys take a deep dive into some of the dilemmas the Cowboys are facing with 19 unrestricted free agents and two restricted guys.

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The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. Cowboys. This is nick shot screening live on Dallas Cowboys dot Com and the official Dallas Cowboys have now Here are Bill Jones, Everson Walls, and Nicky Spagnola. Well, it is not high noon on a Thursday here at the Star in Frisco. It is in Rocky Mountain time, but not in Central Time zone. We're inside the SWBC podcast studio and we miss on

President's Day on Monday. And Mickey's excited about his Missouri Tigers, Everson's black and gold banks about his Grambling Tigers. I'm not excited about my Oklahoma Sooners, but we are excited about the NFL off season which continues now. I thought maybe you were gonna talk about Missouri women's gymnastics. Oh did they do something? I happened to run across the mead on TV? These girls are they were playing Auburn or how whatever the match was against Auburn. Do you

play them in gymnastic competed? Yeah, I mean I'm trying to move along. What these what these young ladies were doing from both teams? Yeah, it's unbelievable. It's crazy, man, I can't believe in human bodies can can do the things they were they were they were like doing during their floor exercises and they're running full speed, jumping up in the air and doing double forward roles and landing on their feet. How do you get up that high?

It's like watching it's like going to Beal Street on steroids. It's unreal. And I and I must admit, you know, I watched the Olympics, but I hadn't watched the College. I mean you to cover that. That's where unbelievable. They come from the college and they beat Auburn too, by the bag. All right, So there it is your gymnastics reports, just the lead off the show. Yeah. Well, it's been a while since president each other in the week man, right,

I mean the last time we saw each other. And I don't remember if even if Everson was here, I was not Monday after the super Bowl was not here until they at this pace. This off season is going so fast it'll be training camp before you got too much shows and there would be well, I mean, you know the the you know, the franchise tag open this week on Tuesday, and for two weeks, so that's already taken place. Yeah, and no franchise tag has been administered now,

not in how many days to three days later? I told someone this morning, it'll go right down to the wire. Well, obviously, negotiate until they need to make that decision until they have to, because they would like to whoever they think that they would tag, will try to negotiate a long term deal. You don't want to tag anybody. It costs too much from a cap standpoint. And then you've got, you know, for the Cowboys, several candidates that you know, you would say, Okay, I could tag him, I can't

number one spas. Who would that be? Well to me? Um? I mean everybody's talking about here? So whatever from the oh no, my decision, okay, right, I would rather not tag Tony Pollard if I don't have to, to reserve my right of first refusal. Uh. And if not, even if I do, I still want to use that time period to sign him to a multiple year deal. Um My, my reservations on him, and I don't know if anybody else has reservations is if I'm paying him ten million

dollars on a guaranteed franchise tag. He's got to be my number one back. He's got to carry the ball twenty twenty five times a game. He hadn't done that yet in his career. And I have to carry the ball twenty to twenty five touches right with him, but he hadn't done that. Um. And then the other part of this is who's going to sign him to something when he's limping the wrong trying to recover from surgery. That was always concerning, right, but if he's not the

same guy, and that puts us in the quandary. So it's hard to do a long term deal on that. So I guess the safer thing is the franchise tag. But it's still ten million dollars. And if I give him ten million dollars, then what am I doing with Zeke? That's my point. And there's this assumption all around that he's gonna get cut. Okay, fine, who's replacing his twelve touchdowns? Who's replacing the short yardage things and all the dirty

stuff that he does? Mcgovernor, he's a free agent. We just lost out full back all right before we moved to Zeke? Yes, okay on the Pollard one okay, Um, Yeah, it takes two to tangle, even on a franchise tag too, because there's no guarantee he's going to sign it, you know, and he would wait. So if you if you were to use it as a placeholder, well you figured out where he is health wise, where he figures out too.

I mean, I don't know what their strategy will be on their end, depending on where he is health wise. If Cowboy put the tag on him, and will he sign it immediately or will he let it play out on his end? Well, I'll tell you if I was his agent, I'd sign it to media. I think I would too, well, simply because he's a little bit compromised, yes, with himself. They don't know that, and he he's not coming from a position of strength right now, and the agent has to know what the rest of the lead thinks,

right like as anybody else interested. Even to the point if he doesn't get the tag and he goes into free agency, what is somebody going to give a guy that had a fancy repair on his um on the two bones he broke h and then did a surgery to repair the ligaments in that ankle. So what because if you played it out through the offseason and you know, the free agency starts whatever, and he has it signed that franchise tag and of course this is all just

speculation here. And then you even get to the draft, and okay, then what if the Cowboys drafted a running back? So um it would I think behoove the player to go ahead and sign the right tender and and and even if he signs it, you can still negotiate because they can because the point is they can pull that. Yes, if if he doesn't sign it, well, no doctors in this room, but we we've heard of a lot of speculation. How tough is it to come back from the injuries

that he has? I mean, what's the history on that? You know? Is it something that's uh like a tip fib We're just talking, you know, something that can be fixed without such rods being put in your you know, like like the iron rods being played. Yeah, because they did. They did a fancy repair on the two bones that it was called a spiral doesn't have My thing is what doesn't have what's the precedence on it? I mean the surgery on his ankle was was significant because it

was a ligament. The bones will heal right? Six weeks or so. But again, is he the same guy? Right? And speed was his deal? Does he still have it? And there's no way to test it? Um? It was just not the semantics, but it's more the quickness. Yeah, and the burst that he had when he called upon it, right.

You know, speed is of course one thing, but that quickness and that burst through there, it's got to be You don't want it to be affected, but you wonder how much it's going to be affected by the surgery. And you've got other guys that if you didn't get a deal done, do you use the tag on them instead? Like if you use the tag on Schultz a second time? The next guy? That's fourteen million guaranteed um, And what's what's the market value for him out there? You know?

Is it? Is he going to sign a multiple year deal that equals fourteen million a year? That's forty two forty five million over three years. I don't know. I don't know if he's the tight end that Kelsey is or Kittle or the guys that are making based on the based on the new offensive coordinator. Does he? Yeah? I like to look at all of these things. Yeah, is he tight end friendly? In his offense. Well, you got to ask. You're talking about McCarthy. Yeah, he's basically

the offensive coordinator. No, no, they got there. Yeah, I know they got a name, Brian Shot. Now see that. I knew he was a good company man. See McCarthy told you that, didn't he. I hadn't talked to McCarthy in four weeks. He started, I'm assuming if he's calling plays, but is he not going to be Oh no, he's calling plays. Bill, Do you agree with this though? That's my understanding. He's calling plays? Why bringing? Why bringing the NEWFC? We saw those unnecessarily coaches we saw on the picture

out there? Can we just like not having no se Then if he's calling plays, it's a title? Why why you need a title? If I'm calling plays? Well, Bill Parcels had an offensive coordinator. He was calling plays, and if you remember what his deal was if if if am I'm using the players, I'm shopping for the goods, right, if I'm cooking the meal. I would imagine if I'm calling plays, I'm kind of designing the offense. I'm not letting you this conversation as the season goes. Alright, we'll

see you like that. Well, I mean, why did you think Bill Parcels had a heads I mean Mike McCarthy had a headset on and the playsheet in his hand on game day. It looks good, yeah, right, like he's in charge, you know. So I mean what if he had a clipboard? Didn't make him look more major? Even better? Plus who knows, maybe Kellen Moore wanted out. I mean he got hired the next day, didn't he. Oh he knew something right, There's no doubt he knew something right.

And it was called quote unquote mutual. Uh. And now he's someplace where he is the offensive coordinator because the head coach is a defensive guy at the Chargers, right, yes, so he doesn't have this guy sitting there. I mean, why do you think it took so long for Eric Bienemy to get a job as offensive coordinators? It was offensive coordinate and yeah he got something. So it wasn't totally a lateral move, right, but there was a reasoning

because they knew Andy Reid was running that offense. So um, yeah, I don't think that. You know, they hired Brian Schottenheimer and he's going to come in and revamp the entire offense. I like the style. Yeah, pretty good style of offense. Yeah, but they weren't always totally successful, didn't have good players.

But again, how many offenses are totally successful? Well, I guess if you win the Super Bowl, you're successful because if you you know what, if you look at the some of the stats this offense put up, they were pretty good except for one game, right, the playoff game and that and one stat that colored colored everything. And yet yeah, and the offense hurts maybe one that that one stat and they cost the game. Offensive coordinator responsible

for interceptions. I don't know, offensive coordinator. I could you could say, you could say that they have a hand in. It depends on if you put your quarterback or your offense in certain situations unnecessarily. Yeah, yeah, they are part of the plan. They put them in situations unnecessarily by not having another wide receiver that they could count on. I looked. I looked. They had a stat of the number one the top ten UH wide receiver combinations in

the league. Very good combination. You know what? Mickey did not sound like a company man just now. Now now he's talking to trash, right, because I'm asking the questions. I can dig deep down off in there. He just doesn't read enough. I see, I'm getting information from you. I don't need to read you. No, I mean read what I write. Oh, that's very true. I do not see that. There's your downfall. You would get educated sometimes when I come in here and talk about something you've

already said. I wrote that in my story today, Right, what's some patricole anyway? So going back to this offense, Um, yeah, they were They were pretty good. They just didn't perform well in a playoff game. And you know what, the team that won didn't perform that off that well either. And once again, it's about moments. We can say all we want. You want to have the team you want

to have. The players are going to keep in position so that when that moment comes, you can capitalize, capitalize on it because you've practiced it, you've been there, you anticipated it. And there's a lot more that goes into that offense. Right, how well did the offensive line play? And is there a reason why they switched out offensive line coaches? Okay, you started on Zeke a second ago, Yeah, and then I got you back on Pollard. Sorry, so do you want to continue on ze Yeah? Because everybody

talks about Mishot coming. Yeah, granting, everybody talks about that. He's got a ten point nine million dollars base salary. Now, what they don't tell you is that if they just outright cut them, not June first, cut them, it's eleven point eight six million in dead money, all right due now do now the day you cut him. Now if you if you say he's a June one release, uh, then it's five point eight million this year and six

million next year. So there's a penalty to pay for not having him, other than not having his twelve rushing touchdowns. By the way, and we talked about that, like seven of them were one yard runs. What it did to his average his average per carry would have raised from three point eight to three point eight five. Oh yes, yeah, but he didn't. He also didn't count all the third and ones he picked up as not that were touchdowns, right,

because he was at a pretty high rate there. Let's be real, we don't have that guy if Zeke leaves, right, because you're drafted because Davis was Davis a bug eighty five? Maybe, yeah, I mean he's he's he's got that same style that Polot has. But we don't need two polots back there, right, we need we need a headbanger, and you saw him come in a lot of times in passing situations because they knew he could pick up the blitz or the loose guy, which Malik Davis missed we talked about in

that game. So then, what's what is your suggestion on what to do with the Zeke ze Elliott. My suggestion is they do something similar to what they did with DeMarcus Lawrence, when Lawrence had like a seventeen eighteen million dollars base salary and they basically said, Okay, here's what we're gonna do. You're out of guarantees. Zeke's out of guarantees, right,

we're going to sign you. And what they did with Lawrence they signed him to a three year deal guaranteed him thirty million, but they were able to spread it out over four years on that deal with a phony void at the end, and then it brought his average down to ten million. So with Zeke, if he's supposed to make eleven million, all right, we'll just say, okay, we're gonna guarantee you eight million over two years. Will

you take it? Because you don't have any more guarantees and if if I'm an aging running back and I get rather than an aging journalist, that's right, because I don't have any guaranteed money either. By the way, my bargaining power is not that high. His guide's got to know what market value is out there? Right? Can you get a better deal somewhere else? So what can they do with his cap number? Well, the cap number? Do with his cap number? If let's say they he was

agreeable to what you're suggesting the cap number? Can you get his cap number? Two? Is like and it's like I want to, I don't have it exactly. It's like ten point nine plus the five point eight. So it's like sixteen seventeen million, sixteen point seven two million right now. And that's because of restructure bonus and signing bonus. Right, you still got account for that because you already paid

that money, so that doesn't go away. So maybe if you signed him to a guaranteed four million dollar deal with incentives that he didn't earn the year before, then you can reduce it to about nine million dollars. Okay, So and what would he see this year? You said, Well, you would give him you would give him a signing bonus or it would be guaranteed, so either in base salaries over the next couple of years, or you pay him a signing bonus and reduce the base salary to

one point five millions something like. So you're looking at how much in his pocket? I think that's what I'm saying, Money in my pocket. I think at that point in his career is more important than the big picture. That's not guaranteed. Now you want to bet on yourself, Okay, go do it. So you then just lowered his cap hit from sixteen point seven million to around can I get it to nine or ten nine and a half million,

let's say. So, now that leaves you with Pollard, right, okay, and what as far as a franchise tag on the running back. The franchise tag on a running back or for him is ten point one million. Okay, So now you are paying roughly twenty million dollars for your two running backs. It's complicated. But if okay, you let Zeke go, and as you said, if you made him a June first cut, he's still five point eight this year, six million next year, and so it's still let's say, even

with a franchise tag on pollar. That would be fifteen or sixteen million. You're spinning on one running back rather than two runners rights. Yeah, so it's not easy. And and and do you just want to let Donovan Wilson walk into free agency? Do you want to let Layton Vanderish walk into free agency? Now? The tag on Vanderish

I looked at for linebackers like twenty million. Um, they're probably not going to do that, and they don't they don't have them uh specified in inside linebacker versus outside linebacker. I think this as linebacker and edge rushers, I think is what it comes down to. Edge rusher should be. Yeah, that's like twenty million probably right, and more and then but the least expensive one is if you franchise Donovan Wilson as a strong safety, it's only like six million

dollars for a strong safety. Now the free safeties near twenty million. Where you are free or strong I'm scared to say, Okay, all right, I don't think I even know. Okay, this is not complete, I don't think. But I've got linebackers twenty point and it just specifies linebackers. Yeah, I'm so how did they come about this? This? This uh formula of linebackers versus for a franchise DAG. It has to do with the average of the top five or ten guys at that position, So we don't have any like.

So the safety, the safety is fourteen point four six million, and it just says safety because I saw it was broken up to strong and free. Well that what I'm reading right here is which was from field yates U for twenty twenty three. Just as safety fourteen point four six million, cornerback eighteen point why do you go, Yeah, linebacker twenty point nine, defensive end nineteen point seven. Wow.

So the linebackers in general are more. But what happens some of those linebackers are three four linebackers, right, And that's that's what I'm saying. A three to four outside linebacker right is more valuable than an an inside right traditionally right, exactly. So So again, now Layton Vanderesh wouldn't agree with that, Yeah, I'm sure, And you know, as far as I'm concerned, he won his bet on himself.

I mean, he played for two million dollars and would have led the team if he didn't miss those final three games, and he probably could have played the least the last one um and then played well in the in the playoff game. And again the running back franchise tag is Mickey mentioned is ten point zero nine million,

tight end is eleven point three million. But in the case of show more, yeah, so it comes to fourteen yeah, which, by the way, fourteen and what he made last year, which was ten, comes to twenty four over two, right, And basically, no, I take that back. He was he was nearly twelve, so now it's fourteen twenty six. He would have averaged thirteen million a year on a long term deal, and that those guys that got paid that

were tight ends last year averaged around fourteen million. So it almost became a push if you've franchised him two years in a row. So an answer to Everson's original questions, franchise tag candidates for the Cowboys are Tony Pollard and Shultz. And I think that's it, okay, because because I don't know that you're going to do the franchise tag on on Layton, right, that's not going to happen, not at twenty point whatever million. Now, the other decision they need

to make, by the way, it's restricted free agents. Terrence Steele because there's three levels to that. You guarantee yourself write a first refusal if you don't sign him, if he signs with somebody else at a first, a second, or original draft which he was drafted the same round Everson was. That's right, so there's no there's no compensation, uh, if you don't tag him for a first or a second. Right. In fact, let me rephrase them. He was drafted the

same round Everson, Mickey and Bill work. That's right, right, and you know how hard that road was Avante Turpin two by the way. Anyway, so he's a pro bowler. He's ready to be the deep threat wide receiver. There you go, paid attention. He's been ready to interview. He's been ready. Yeah, that's time. Why that offensive coordinator is offensive coordinator? Isn't here anymore shots to Dylan the battle of that guy more. You know, he said he's ready to go. He's going to show him what he can

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big matchup coming up on Sunday. That's when Bob Stoop's uh Arlington Renegades head down to Houston to take on a way to Phillips f l on Sunday, I believe is that game? Do you watch any last weekend? I did. I must admit I saw highlights. I watched parts of the game I didn't watch. Still got problems with the offensive tackles in that league. Ball well. I watched a

majority a lot of defensive touchdowns of the Arlington. The Arlington game which they won because they had two defensive to pick sixes and then a big on the two point conversion attempt to end the game. A big six, seven, three hundred sixty four pound T. J. Barnes sacked. Who were they? The Vegas Vipers? Quarter Vipers? Um poor until the possession that Arlington had to go down and win the game. Um with a field goal? Um? Is it? AJ McCarn t A J. J. Mccaren wasn't in that game?

He was? Was it? That wasn't his game? Watch too many? That's right, that game, that's the one I was talking about battle Hawks. I thought that was the one that he was getting just blasted. He could not set up in the pocket. Finally on that last drive they blocked him just enough where he could throw the so they could drive down and score. The offensive lines are just terrible. Was his girlfriend in the stands? Uh? It's his wife? Now, I don't know, Yeah, I don't know. Or maybe since

he's Nysberger liked, might have traded her in. She might have traded them in since he wasn't in the NFL, right, But anyway, it was crazy. It was It was a little craney watching Hi playing for Seattle. I think he had a nice little a little flip for a touchdown. That's what it was. Kind of one of those push pass. Oh, it's tough, tough to watch. Did it look like the Washington game they did? Yeah? I did. No, there was something in those games I liked and I forgot. I

was going to tell you, guys, kick off. That's weird. I felt like we were back playing flag football or something, you know, and inner murals where everybody's watching where the ball is. Oh, he can't Okay, no, we can't take off. Yeah, like the runner cannot leave the base and it's like a sack fly. Yeah, baseball. That was That was strange.

I like how they handled the replace uh that you know they heard we heard the discussion right, and transparency yeah, and and a lot of immediate decisions not having to challenge things. I finally got to see the uh, if you wanted to on side kick or take the first in fifteen from the twenty five, I saw that happen and they converted. Was that the Saint Louis I think it was. I think it was the Saint Louis scheme. They couldn't too long. I'm sorry. Yea. By the way,

we have some breaking news from the producer Supreme's booth. Okay, it's producer Supreme breaking it. Okay, by the way, it's it's Catherine Webb mccaron. That's his wife. Now, yes, Miss Alabama. So they got married. They did getting married, Okay, all right, much to the chagrin of Brent Mussburger. It was in the BCS National Championship Game for anybody once a week. Yeah, okay, So what's on your legal pad, Mickey, I'm sure there's

no XFL notes on there. No. I just wanted to point out there was that Wade Phillips using roughnecks or taken on Bob Stoop's Arlington Renegades on Sunday. I was trying to I had written this down. It's not on these pads. Something I liked about the XFL. But that was a week ago, right, was that? No? That was it? Was it the extra points mac or? I mean, I mean after the uh two or three play basically, yeah, that's six, and then went for three and then the Yeah.

I thought that was jacking it up too much. You can go you go for one point from the two yard line, correct, two points from the five and three points from the tent. Correct. Okay, it's Stoop almost blew that because he opted they got up twenty to fourteen, and he went for the two points to go up eight, or maybe he went for one. I can't remember. I think he went up eight and which left the door open.

He could have put them away. In fact, he was roundly criticized in the booth by Greg McElroy whoever was in the booth with him, like he needed to go ahead and put this game away, but big game Bob decided to trust his defense. Yeah, but if you don't make it, then that's right a touchdown in it was a seven It must have been a seven point lead, and he went for one to give it an eight

point because it was a six point lead. If he missed it, I thought, okay, well maybe so, I don't know anyway, Yeah, that was San Antonio lost their game. There were a minute and a half left. They were down there, up by thirteen and lost. Unbelievable. There's always a way to come back in that league. You like the non on site kick in the fourth and fifteen, Mick, Yeah, that you know what they that came up in the NFL, and they decided not to even do a trial at it. No.

I don't like that. It's like it's too it's too jacking up the integrity of the game. You just can't keep messing around with things like that. Do you like the kickoffs, Mick? How about that? No, I already said I didn't like kickoffs. No, I kind of like the kickoffs. You don't like that they line up for the kickoff like normal, but the kicker kicks it like they don't line up normally. Well, they line up. Everybody lines up on the line where the front guys are, so all

ten of them are up there. Yeah, they're only like what Chris ten five yards apart, five yards ten yards apart something like that, like the thirty yard line, I believe. And then the guy kicks it, and when the guy catch the returner catches it, then everybody takes up. Yeah, I got you. And if you kick it short, it's a penalty. So it's like a fifteen yard penalty from the spot of the foul and it has to go at least to the past the twenty yard line. They

just did that. They just started that this year. Yeah, and then the l yes in the XFL, they just started this year, right, Because I was just wondering if we got Turpin, is that why he'd be so good because well it makes them return as they can't kick it in the end zone. I don't think they have to kick it between the twenty. Yeah, you can't. There's no catch back, there's no touchbacks. You'd probably get pedalized for that. Yeah, so okay, next up on your illegal pad.

Uh here here's well we we we never got finished with steel, Yes, Terence Steele, what would you tag them with of writer first refusal? If you didn't uh take it, then you get a first or a second or you continuing to try to a long term deal. You have the numbers on the six million four million, I think it's either. So if it's a first round tender, first round year. Yeah, first round tender is six million, right, as a restricted you have you have to tender him

with the first don't you think? Yes? Would you agree? Every yes? Now? A lot of times what the Cowboys have done, and that's six millions nothing they tender tackle for a guy that's going to start for you? Right.

Um again, And that's another one where you got to know market value because a lot of times to reduce that that salary cap hit because it's a one year guaranteed that you sign him to a two year deal, give him some signing bonus up front, and then say I'll I'll sign you two years eight million or not eight um twelve million? Say double it, and then pay him a signing bonus twelve million a year. No, no total? Oh taking that two years for two years for twelve No,

there's no way. Well, if you're getting one for six, that's doubling it. You go out. You're a restricted free agent. You go out, But he's restricted, that's right, And another team can come back with an offer, and all they gotta do. They gotta give up first round drafting. You're gonna do it a guy. Teams that are giving up giving up first round very good on a guy coming off with torn ACL that's not gonna be ready into with him. I mean see, it's not an easy decision.

That's an easy decision to reject two years, twelve billion dollars. If I'm terried Steele. Okay, see, he's got a little gil brand in him. He got a little gil brand in him. You kick him while they're down, you know what I mean, he's hurt. Yeah, let's just let's just ring all of it. We can, we can. You gotta you gotta look at it like it's your money. There's no doubt that's how they looked at it, That's exactly. And the Cowboys have to look at it as it's

not Jerry's money, it's the team money under the salary cap. Yeah, but you still got to treat your player right, you know, well, as right as you can m as right as you want to. That's what it is, as right as I could afford. So so yeah, that's that's another complicated decision because he didn't have I mean, nine months removed from az ACL would be like August September, right, And you want him to be ready to go, want him to be ready because when he's ready, though he's one of

the he's a good one when he's ready. Because that that's why you don't want to You don't want to piss him off, you know, you don't want to just disrespect him with with two years twelve. Yeah, but what if I gave you eight or ten of it when up front, up front as a signing bonus. Okay, that's what I'm saying. Okay, if you can do that, then let's talk on the other end. I'll give you eight. You would make six, but you have to work for

it week by week. There you go. I give you eight from the give me eight, but I'm only gonna make four next year, That's what he's saying. Well, you're only gonna make four over two uh two base salaries. Yeah, but you're guaranteed eight, all right. But if i'll play for six, I'll play for six. Okay, I'll play for six, and I'll take my chances on a three year, fifty four million dollar contract next year. And I'm gonna have an attitude. Yeah, I'm not. I'm not. I'm gonna be thinking.

I'm gonna remember this year. I'm gonna remember. Then I will bring out so Everson, would you Okay, let's will play that out. You've run one second. Don't ask me because you know why if I get hurt, okay, if you got hurt again, okay, and now you're a free agent, I can't go on that. Any player can get hurt anytime, So don't give me that. I'm not going with that. So you wouldn't take guaranteed money to bet on your self.

So what about next year? Let's say, and I would bring out the example of Dak Prescott got very lucky. So what are the Cowboys gonna offer next year? Let's say he accepts the first round tender at six million this year, and now he's an unrestricted free agent next year. So what are the Cowboys options next year on tranche? And the franchise tag is offensive tackle? It's got to be fifteen to twenty billion, right, I just had it, so I might as well google look it up. It's

got to be. So you guys act like there's just an unlimited amount of money to spend. No, you act like you a Gail Brand. I'm not to like you no more. Man. You know you can see offensive line? Offensive line? Why aren't tackles specified? Offensive line is eighteen point two million? So okay, mickey, here is my starting point. Okay, okay, And this is exactly when you said two million, two years twelve million, I said to twelve million a year,

and you said, no, that's for the two years. Yeah, because my idea was no, I will consider two years twelve million per year, which is two years twenty four million. Okay. Because if I just sit here and play for your first round tender this year six million, and then you tag me next year, it's eighteen point two million. I've got two two years twenty four million sitting here right now, and you want me to sign think that you think you want you want me to sign Yours is not

gars twelve million years is not guarantee my mind. It is. I'm guaranteed my mind. So and so, then you're gonna pay Pollot and he could get hurt again on a one year deal. Yeah, I mean you want to pay him. You want to pay But that's why I don't. If I'm the player, I don't want a one year deal. I didn't say one year deal. You want to pay Tony Pollot. You want to get him on your team. You want to sign him to that deal. You want to sign him to the real deal, not some franchise tag.

He wants to sign him to a long term deal. If the market value allows me to do that. Yes, but he could get hurt again, that's the yeah, But that's the chance I'm taking. But I gotta take it at a reasonable amount of money. So you don't think the Terrence steal is worth more money because he might get hurt again. No, No, you said you didn't want to pay him his money. You didn't want to pay him what he really deserves because he's coming off an injury and he might get hurt again. No, no, no, no,

you confuse that with the one year deals. H I was not saying that I wouldn't pay him on a multiple year deal. I will pay him a multiple year deal two years. I'm saying he's taken a chance on himself. Okay. And what I tried to point out, you cut me off by the way. Dak Prescott did that with the first franchise tag, right, he was getting guaranteed like forty eight million dollars and he goes, no, I'd rather make twenty million or whatever it was, and then I'll take

my chances next year. And what happened to him. He suffered a season ending injury in Game five? What if it was career ending? If you want to talk about Dak Prescott now, I mean now he won because they because they resigned him. What if that injury was career ending? Yeah, all these what ifs can't go by that. Well, I don't know. I guess I treat my money differently than you treat years. Yes, you're waiting on something to happen,

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free agency looming here, it'll be here before you know it. Yeah, I've what did March thirteenth? Is the negotiating period starts right right now? It's fifteenth, Okay, we're worried. Twenty third, twenty day, so I mean we're two weeks away basically, right. So let's give a little overview of those Cowboys free agent and I got another one that's complicated, all right,

Anthony Brown. There you go. He's at the top, at the top of the defensive free agents coming off a torn achilles um, which is difficult for right, Yeah it is, Um, we saw what is it like without? Maybe I think that's he came in the league in twenty sixteen, so we're going he's still going into his eighth year. So how do you, I mean, what's he looking for? Because he's probably with my history with torn achilles, he's probably

not ready for the start of training camp. I'm thinking, Um, well I'm not ready for the season, and what kind of what kind of free what kind of thirty December fifteenth, So what's his market value out there with another team torn achilles? I mean, we saw what happened what Malie Cooker, right, Cowboys got him basically for a song and a dance

on a one year deal. Um, I'm thinking unless he finds, you know, a multi year deal somewhere to continue your rehab here I think would be valuable, right uh, and not go into free agency and then they're like, okay, well you're not here, you know, uh, one year deal to kind of re establish yourself, so maybe you can get him back. Um, now your chances are at old Jordan Lewis will be back ready to go from his list franc injury and he's got one year left on

his deal. Yes, um, you like Bland, but after that, what do you guys? The Cowboys played two quarterbacks against the forty nine ers of the playoff game. There were two cornerbacks that got on the field that day, right, because they were using safeties as the third guy. That's right. So I'm pretty effective though, by the way, I mean, I'd love to have Anthony Brown back. You know, is he a great corner No, but he's a good one

and I could win games with him. Um, so you know, maybe they can get him back on a you know, like a one year, one point five million dollars deal with per game bonuses if he gets back and he's playing. But that's another one. It's complicated, right, These all these things are so complicated. It's not cutting dry because you have all these guys coming back from injuries, but you also have the luxury in that secondary with some pretty

talented safeties that you're dealing with. Some of them have compromised their whole game to come down cover that slot and play positions that they are not accustomed to playing, right, And I think they adapted very well, especially in a playoff game, the way that they did. But twenty four number one Donovan Wilson is free. Yeah, so Israel mcquamo

is one of those safeties. Um Jay Ryan Curse, he'll be he's back on the last year of his two year deal as his hooker, and mcquomo is probably this is his to be his third year, so it'll be his last year two right. He was a fifth round pick maybe seventh. Oh yeah, you're right. So yeah, and then you know Nashan right. I don't know about how that one's gonna work out. Um so yeah, the safety

position kind of persevere. You got one cornerback, baby, but yeah, we got another cornerback though, waiting on you number one. Come on, fags, How do I have a hard time wrapping my head around that? Got one out there? Baby, he's still there, made some plays in the game. He did. He's there, Athlantic, He's very athlantic. You trust him. I didn't say that, but he's out there. And then you have another cornerback who's going into his free agent year. Dicks.

Oh that's right, who probably wants hundred million dollar man. He probably wants too. Oh yeah, he wants good luckily that yeah, so yeah, I see in By the way, you got to do something with dex base salary. It's what is it like forty ninety five goes up. Can't you got to do something there? And he's this is this third year on that new deal, so that means one out of four. That's why they wanted a five and they kind of gave in. See Gil wouldn't have gave him. And what are you gonna do as your

backup quarterback? Your backup quarterbacks at free age? That's right, Hooper Rush who went four and one for you this year? He thinks somebody who's going to be the backup quarterback this year? Somebody might think he's worth more than a one year whatever. He didn't make much this year. I think it was nine hundred. I think he's worth keeping. Yeah, I do too. I think he is definitely worth keeping. I mean, with all whatever flaws we see in him,

it worked for us and that's all that matters. And by the way, you need a kicker and you need a well, they they finally made kickers, miss Kayano. They finally, I mean that finally is official that they had signed him as a future You need a deep snapper, by the way, because both of them are free agents. Um, what does a deep snapper? I mean, well, until he

doesn't deep snap it accurately. So I mean those guys you don't have to pay a lot, but you need to spend money doing that right, and then you need they're just that's a nuisance. The problem is when you have a deep snapper get hurt like the Cowboys did this year, Now you're paying two deep snaps. So this year they paid two veterans, two kickers based on the

way I hear so Jake McQuaid and Matt Overton. So McQuoid gets hurt, Well, whatever point in the season, Now you got to bring another veteran gay and now you just increase the pay for your deep snapper and your your rookie pools nine million dollars dollars, so they're already if they take they're already like at the cap and they hadn't signed anybody. So that's why managing this whole thing with all these guys. You know, we didn't even

bring up Tyrn Smith. What's going to happen there because he has dead money too, by the way, that you have to account for. So it's it's just not easy. Said like he's sounded like parcels what he said that what he's got dead money too? Five I take that, take that because his base salary is thirteen point six million TYRN and eight million dead if you just outright cut him. And I think there's a isn't there a limit on how many guys you can designate June one?

Release like one? Two? I think maybe two? Now that's it. So eight million dollars there, everybody's like, well, you gotta cut them. I all right, Well, now you're gonna spend eight million on nothing. It's complicated. I'm telling you, you know, I miss Nate from Frisco. Yeah, I really do. Yeah, he always has great insight on these things, but not when it comes to salary cap But he can tell he can, he can. He just wants to spend. He can.

He can invoke all types of you know. So, by the way, I see Da Dak's cap hit his forty nine million, his base salary goes to thirty one and it's all guaranteed. So and if anybody wants to cut him, by the way, which people were ready to get rid of him, because fifteen interceptions, he has eighty nine million in dead money, madam. By the way, in my big green notebook, yeah, I'm looking at a FAMU linebacker and he combines next week by the way, the HBCU one

the regular. The HBCU won this week it was already or is it this week this weekend, this weekend, this weekend? Yes, they're because they're down there now. So they're working out. They're working out, and now, okay, all right. I heard an interview with Isaiah Land out of Florida, A and M and I love this guy and another linebacker twenty twenty one Buck Buchanan Award winner, And he's he's a

linebacker slash edge rusher type. He's Michael Parsons type. Which, by the way, did you catch any of Micah's interview Friday night on ticket Stock? The question was, what do you consider yourself a linebacker? Uh? At defensive end or a hybrid player? And he paused and he goes, I consider myself mister football. Of course, of course he's gonna say that. Oh you gotta love the kid, so uh before we go, And I got another one, Marquis Bell. What's up with him? Uh? I think they kind of potential,

but they liked him. They had they know they had him in some backup roles. I saw him getting on the field, didn't I. Yeah, A couple couple of snaps um kind of playing that hybrid uh safety position that Curse did. Yeah, um, I think that they think he has something. You know, we'll see they still they still think yeah, yeah yeah, they still still yeah yeah I think so. And then you know, Mom's his Auntie's gonna be calling me pretty soon, oh to see what what's

up all that? Um, And then ever since, I'll appreciate this one and this is my public service announcement. On NFL dot com, they did a fifteen minute documentary on the Titanic clash between Elkhorn State in Mississippi Valley State in nineteen eighty four that pitted one Jerry Rice against and they were the two main guys they interviewed for the piece. It is really good, I mean really good. The unfortunate thing is it was nineteen eighty four, so

the videos kind of cloudy. It's not kind of grainy. But those two guys, they got them together, interviewed them. They actually went to Levi Stadium and interviewed both of them, going back and forth, and Rice was talking about how Ike held him the whole game and I was saying, not only held you once, right, And they actually had to play it he always pulled his jersey off right, and there was no flag, but the cool thing about it.

And so that game was took place two months after I left the paper in Jackson to come here, and I had dealt with both of those head coaches, Marino Cassim at Elkhorn State. Uh and uh uh oh, I'm gotta forget his name, the Mississippi Valley State coach. Um that was, oh, my god, the Gunslinger. So the name of right right, actually cool. So the name of the of the documentary is Gunslinger versus our Godfather versus Gunslinger.

And that game was supposed to be played in it Abina, Mississippi, which probably had enough room for I played that three thousand May. They decided this was game was so big. Both teams were undefeated in the Swack, and they moved the game to Memorial Coliseum or stadium in Jackson sixty five thousand, right, and my buddy got interviewed from it. I worked with him at the papers about Grambling owns that stadium. Right, Okay, you win all the time, yes, sir,

thank you very much. And they moved it there and in that stadium it was a sellout, right of course, it was standing room only, so they said sixty five, but there was more than that, and it showed on statewide television, right, and that's unusual for eighty four. That's very un right from nineteen eighty four to get that kind of coverage, right, and Elkhorn ended up winning. They

beat Jerry Wise. Willie Totton was the quarterback. Yeah, yeah, And so it's it's well worth just seeing Rice and Holt go back and forth and black all is how the famous I was one of my favorite guys. You know, that's good stuff. So anyway you watch it, it's fifteen minutes. And then they had UH and it was on NFL dot com. It was part of their Black History Month celebration and it's probably gonna be yeah better hurry on.

They also had a little nugget and I guess this probably was well known, but it was on Bob Hayes. Bob Hayes being the only UH player to have won an Olympic gold medal and a Super Bowl title. Yeah, definitely, Yeah, it was pretty good. That's why I was such a shame that it took so long to get him into the Cowboys wing of So one last thing on the game, the year before they had called it the showdown, right, and it was the gun Slinger against Marino Cassim, who

passed away I think a couple of years ago. But we took a picture of them and they were facing each other. They had their big ten gallon hats on or whatever, and they each had a had a pistol and they were like blowing the smoke. Guy only l Corn Mississippi Valley State, right, But they would do anything to promote their programs and you know some pretty darn goodness the same way he promoted any way he could, and they knew what they had to do with at

that time. So anyway, check it out, take my word for it. Very good. And so we meet next week at what time I believe, Monday, Monday eleven am. Monday, thank you, Monday eleven am. I was gonna say noon, but that was our old times. Well, maybe I can reveal some contents in my big green notebook. It's about time. Well, he doesn't really get started till next week. It will be a little combine preview. Un because the combine starts

next week. Next week, that's right, we can be watching them work out while we do well, No, I think it actually the televised port the workout portion later in the weekday and they got it in primetime. Now you know they changed it where I remember when the primetimes everything makes it difficult to watch because the wife is not as into it as I am. That's why you got to have two TVs in the same room. That's right. No, when I get sent to the y, I get set upstairs.

All right. That does it for this edition of Mixed Shots. Make it a great week And do you root for Big Game Bob or Wade Phillips on Sunday? Well, well we'll have a recap on Monday. Let's do that. Go Cowboys. This has been a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club.

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