Mick Shots: Football Potpourri

emails in one. It's got so many topics. He wants to talk about, whether it's Super Bowl, whether it's quarterbacks being traded in this league, no matter, whether it's Missouri basketball. Now he won't get into Missouri. No, we're not getting into Missouri basketball. No, no, but and so Micky Mickey wants the floor to start off. Okay, Everson, but let's give you the floor first, because Mickey doesn't have the floor right now. Mickey, Everson, Mike, what's on your mind?

Form my platform today? First of all, welcome to Black History Month, guys, right yo, So glad to have you here. I was gonna take over the show, and I think Spags knew that. That's why he sent you that list of subjects and didn't send me Jack. I don't even know what the henk we're gonna talk about today, but I do know I want to welcome you guys a Black History Month. Every show this month, I'm gonna have a there ago a black something on. Even if it's

just me, it's gonna be black something. So that's that's what we're gonna do. You can't see me over on guys, take it away? Do you think ever since you can't see me but I've got a black pull over on today? Oh nice, welcome to the club. I'll wear it. I'll wear it every show this month and even beyond this month. Just blue doesn't count, right, I needed to be in black. Blue does not count. There is there are some blue black people in this world, but no, your blue does

not count. And there's some black and blue people in this world. And I could think of at Mickey, Yah. Yeah, where do you want to start? Well, you had a couple of topics too, so we got a lot of ground to cover, right, yes, exactly right? Uh and uh all right, let's how about we start with the news of the day yesterday. Get it out of the way to start with, because everything else is kind of Super

Bowl and NFL related. But Jason Winton has landed a new job, and how many are surprise that we aren't surprised. I'm not surprised. It is a coaching job, and I'm not surprised that it's at the high school level two at Liberty Christian School in Argyle, which is located north of Fort Worth in Denton County. I think, so it's right here in the metroplex for those of you who don't live in North Texas. And his kids, his four

kids all go to school there. I don't know if the youngest is old enough to go to school yet, but I think the oldest boy is in seventh or eighth grade. Eighth and so he's the varsity head football eighth grade. Yes, And he's the varsity head football coach at Liberty Christian. So congratulations to him. To start things off.

Liberty Christian is about I'm gonna say, five miles or so from where I live, and I'll tell you what for a private school, they've got some of the nicest facilities that I think I've seen at a school of that size. So there's some money in that school, believe me. And that used to be that used to be really good in the taps Um. They've fallen off these last couple of years, but they used to be. But they're

about to get good again. Yes, yeah, And you know what, And I think most people on this missed the boat on well, why would he want to coach in high school? Well? Why not? Number one? That's where his kids are. Number two, I'm thinking, if you're a high school coach, you have more effect on young people than you would in the NFL or even in college at these days, right, uh, next, uh, Now he he doesn't have to recruit. You go to college, you spend the whole year recruiting. Now he may recruit

it a private school. I'm not gonna dismiss that possibility, revol right, but right now, his name, his name will do all the rending he needs exactly. He won't have to do any recruiting. His name will recruit for him. And then and then, you know, you coach in college, boy, that's a long haul year for you. And in the NFL, does he want to show up at six or seven in the morning and work till ten at night as

an assistant tight ends coach. I don't think so. So. I think he's gone to where kind of his family roots are. His grandfather was a head high school coach, his brother's high school head coach. And I just think it's a natural thing. If you're going to have a family and you have four kids that are that young, probably want to be around him because you probably weren't around him as much as you wanted to when you were playing. I just think it's a perfect fit. I

Grease Fast. That's one of the things that we talked about you a call when we first, you know, contemplated with leaving the NFL. We talked about Tennessee like him going back to the University of Tennessee. I never thought that would be a good fit for him. I think I even expressed it at the time that you guys brought it up. You know, it's tough, like you said, moving the kids, moving the family from a place in Dallas where you have been for a long time and

where you've made your name. Why not stay in this area and once against facts, you did all this plane you did all I mean seventeen eighteen years, then you end up going to Vegas, you know, just trying to squeeze out one more year to see what that team could do, what kind of promise they would have. And you know that's enough. I'm sure his wife and his

family were. They were very grateful to know that he was not going to leave the state of Texas because I think as far as his family is concerned, they don't know much about Tennessee. I know they have, I'm sure family there. You know, he's got his legacy there in regards to college, but when it comes to his professional career, this is where Jason Witt has made his home, and this is where his families feel uncomfortable. His name will bring in as much notoriety to the Liberty Universe

or Liberty High School that they can. It's going to be an amazing Like I said, why leave the area. I think he can influence so many high school kids much more than he could some college kids. And let me throw in a couple of other things on this and we'll move on to what's on Mickey's long list.

Here Sean Payton, when he had his exile under suspension from the New Orleans Saints, his kids went to Liberty Christian here in Argyle, and he was a volunteer coach during that season while the NFL season was going on. That is where Sean Payton spent his time during that season with his kids. He was helping coach the football team that year. And the other thing is keep in mind Doug Peterson and his resume. After playing in the

National Football League, he retired at age thirty seven. He went back home to Shreveport, Louisiana, and it was an upstart private school, Calvary Baptist Academy. He was the head coach there right after retiring from the NFL for four years. Did that for four years and then was hired by Andy Reid as an assistant coach in oh nine with

the Eagles. Followed him to Kansas City, and by twenty fifteen he was a head coach in the National Football League and a couple of years later he wins the Super Bowl as the head coach of the Philadelphia Eagles. So just because Jason Witton is coaching at the high school level right now, you know a few years from now,

we'll see it doesn't rule out. In fact, it can be a perfect situation for him to from a family standpoint and stay in coaching, and even if it's at the high school level, there are things you are learning to do as a coach and managing people that will prepare him for any head coaching jobs at a higher level that he might want to pursue in the future.

All right, yeah, and what you want to go to I was going to also add, you know, there's been a couple other former Cowboy players go into high school coaching. George Tigue is still doing it, right, Um, yep, George is more like an athletic director right at JP two. Right. And then you know Bill Bates did it also in Florida when he went back in Jacksonville. As a matter of fact, his Yeah, he wasn't the head coach, but he was a coach there when Tim Tebow was at

his high school. By the way, Yep, that's true. That's very truce bags. I happen to know a little bit about that. Let's not forget about Dion Sanders at his high school. Now he's a Jackson State and he's doing that's gonna be amazing for the Swack, for the Southwestern Athletic Conference. But let's just be real, Dion ain't trying to stay at Jackson State. We know where Dion wants

to go, so let's just be real about that. But I do appreciate him for the time that he's going to spend at the HBCUs because the swack and all HBCUs could clearly use that type of influence, that type of notoriety to help bring a little bit more you know, a little bit more money and exposure to the HBCUs. Yeah,

And and the timing of that, he waited. You know, his kids are now college age, and so he got his son is going to play for him at Jackson State and then and then when the Florida State job opens, he'll follow him to Florida States. At the idea, I believe that is. I believe that is if if Florida States his son, right, be honest, it's a package deal. It's a pack This is the reverse package deal, right,

the son sides and brings dad alone. And by the way, another another recent to Cowboys player, John Kitten, is coaching at the high school ranks. Uh. He's now at Burlison Centennial and coached his son, who, by the way, is going to the University of Florida. I believe to play quarterback. So anyway, there's and he's got about four sons that are all athletes. Got more coming up in the ranks there. All right, all right, Nie, let's let's do this your list,

let's do this. Let's let's uh kind of talk about the big trade, the quarterback shuffle with Matthew Stafford going to the Rams and Goff going to the Lions. Uh in that trade? Uh, anybody surprised by that? I think the only thing I was surprised is how much Detroit God trading Matthew step not only a starting quarterback, but two first round picks in the third round pick? Does that let you know just how disappointed the coaches were

in Jared Golf playing with the Rams. I mean, even though he tried his best to go in that playoff game. You know, he's a little bit hobbled with the thumb on his throwing hands. I think it's clear that the playoff game had nothing to do with them releasing or at least trading for Matthew Stafford, because Jared Golf at one point during the season, I said, about halfway during

the season, the Rams were looking good. They were the favorites to win the NFC, even over the Tampa Bay Buccaneers, and they were even talking about how this team's offense was doing as just as efficient as Aaron Rodgers and the Green Bay Packerd so early on, even after they signed Jared Golf to a big contract, if I'm not mistaken, and then for him to lose favor like that, to me, it's I'm not surprised that they got rid of him, but that not only did they give up a lot,

I'm also surprised that they that they would get rid of him so soon. It was just last year they showed this guy up, you know, with some good money, thinking that this is going to be the favorites to go to the super Bowl, with the coach being an amazing coach, having every surgence as a player. All of a sudden he's out, just like that. With this amazing, amazing defense that he has to play alongside with, he was clearly a disappointment. And I'm sure somebody like a

Dak Prescott, what do you think Dak Prescott's thinking right now? Well, I'll tell what do you think he's saying? Well, I'll tell you what the Cowboys are thinking. And this is what people out there. I wrote about it on Friday. You know it's like, well, why having the Cowboys signed back? Just sign him. You know, he deserves the money. The

Cowboys know he deserves the money. But these quarterback deals are are really fickle sometimes right, and they're tedious, and you better be right and not only right, but you gotta structure it right too, because there was a cost to both teams to do this switcher roof. If you look at the ramifications of the salary cap. Now I understand that the Rams wanted to don salary cap money, but they also uh inherited salary cap structure by by by releasing Jared Goff at such an early time, they

incurred to do this. Now I had gone back and look, if they had just released Jared Goff, they would have incurred sixty five million dollars in dead money. As it stands, because they traded them and so they got rid of some of the guaranteed base salaries. They incurred twenty two point two million in dead money, and by trading for Stafford,

they inherited his contract. Now this can be reworked, and they've got time because none of this is official to March seventeenth, but they also if they just inherit his contract for the next two years, it's nineteen million dollars in base money, So that means almost forty two million they stuffed into a salary cap that they don't have room for. So they're gonna have to work on doing either a rework contract or signing him to an extension, which is going to put more money into their salary.

And the same thing for Detroit, they suffered nineteen million dollars in dead money. Now his cap number was thirty three million this year Staffords was, so they saved a little bit money there, but they also have nineteen million and dead money. So I know when teams say, well we saved this and this, I don't care what you saved. You just spent nineteen million dollars to unload your quarterback for a quarterback that the Rams didn't want anymore. So

I don't know how you guys look at this. But the Rams, assuming that nothing changes what Stafford's contract, they're gonna be thirty million dollars over the cap and they've got to start doing some cutting before in March seventeenth. So my point is this is why the Cowboys look at Dak's contract and go, okay, we gotta be careful here.

We can just be cavalierly throwing around all this money because you never know what these quarterbacks uh and and boy it it'll you know, it'll bite you if you're wrong. And even if you're right, it's gonna bite you somewhere else against the salary cap. So that is why this is taking so long for the Cowboys to figure out. Now, maybe Annheuser Busch has just helped the Cowboys by signing Dak to a new endorsement contract. I see is being reported, right,

that's gotta be worth subted, right. Maybe he doesn't need as much money on his football contract. So that's why Annheuser Busch is not doing any commercials at the Super Bowl. They had to pay Dad and all have money on Dack. They have to save them money. They have to save them money for the future contracts. Hey, so Spags, all right, I'm gonna I'm gonna this is gonna be my wall shot right here, because this is just what the NFL deserves.

Ye know, I was a union rep. We fought for players to get all the money that they need and that you can the teams can afford to pay you. But what happened along with the Union trying to make us rise up was all these smart agents who you know, were drafting these quarterbacks, the Lee Steinberg's, you know, all of those guys who really start to influence the league a lot with their clients and the signings that there

was clients began to receive. I think quarterbacks are extremely overrated and overhyped pretty much on every team in the NFL. Not only are they overhyped in regards to the league, I think we give them too much preference in regards to a what it's supposed to be a team game. And I'm getting a little pissed off when all we hear about is Okay, super Bowls coming up, our playoffs coming up, this matchup is coming up. Well, who's the matchup between or It's not between the Cowboys and the

Washington team. No, No, it's against the quarterbacks of those teams along with the other guys. You know. To me, when you have a team that's powerful, that's powerful enough to get into the super Bowl or team and make it into the playoffs, you can't do it with the one man band. You've got to have those guys stepping up for you, and we seem to as a nation and as a narrative for this league, we seem to

put so much emphasis on these quarterbacks. So therefore, not only do they garner sometimes unwarranted leadership, unwarranted endorsements, unwarranted huge contracts, and you have brothers on the offensive line, defensive line, defensive backs, linebackers who are bawling out. Let's me say it like this. Average quarterbacks can ask for way more than they deserve just because of the position,

not how good they are. So you have the emphasis on this particular person and this position, and yet you got these players that are balling out around you, pulling you out of the fire as many times as you have been successful. So to me, I think we have gotten into this culture of well, that's our leader. Hell no, that's not money I had. I had quarterbacks on my team that were good, but I wouldn't call them my leader. You understand. I had guys on my defense that led me.

And I think that when we have started with this quarterback club thing that they started back in the eighties, late eighties and early nineties, to our quarterbacks are garden and I know, it's just quarterback club, and you've got other positions in quarterback club. It started off with the premises of quarterbacks getting the preferential treatment on and off the field, giving benefit of the doubt on TV doing proadcasts all the time. Oh well, Aaron Rodgers threw that

ball away. We must have been that wide receiver ran the wrong route. That's not necessarily true. So I get kind of upset that we are changing the narrative of a team game into a popularity contest, which really sides quarterbacks to get more money than they really should be getting. And this is coming from a former Union rep. And Bill, let me make two points before we he go to

a break and just talking about what Everson said. You know, I understand Tom Brady, I understand his value, right, but that Tampa defense pulled his butt out of that last championship game in the conference. He threw three interceptions right, Todd Bowl Todd ball right exactly. And then my other point is when you got to be careful with these these these quarterback contracts. Looked what's going on in Houston

right now with Deshaun Watson. Suddenly he's upset and he wants out right, well, to cut him it or release him now before June one, it would cost Houston sixty seven million dollars in dead money. Do you think it's any coincidence that the new GM said, no, we don't want to get rid of them, and if they trade them, it's twenty one point six million in dead money. So that's why the price for trade in one of these quarterbacks, you get so much back because of the money dump

that's involved in this whole thing. So that has a lot to do what's going on with some of these trades. But you gotta be careful with these quarterbacks because they get upset and then they they they basically hold up the entire franchise. Right, It's like, Okay, I gotta have my way. I want to pick the GM, I want to pick the head coach. And if you don't acquiesce to them and you give in, I'll guarantee you. And Everson knows this. The line starts out the door at

the owner's office. Right, Okay, I'm next. I'm not happy. J. J. Watt. I want to go play for somebody that wins. This ain't the NBA, right, You cannot manipulate the salary cap you way you can. In the NBA, it got a lot of you are right on the quarterback and how you structure the deal. Okay, so Nette, let me tease the rest of the show this way. All right, all right, we've got a big news story of the week. Jared Goff traded for Matthew Stafford. We've got Patrick Mahomes versus

Tom Brady in the Super Bowl. See that. Listen to that? What I just say? All right here, you're killing me a little comparison Jared Goff. Jared Goff against the Tampa Bay Buccaneers Sunday before Thanksgiving completed thirty nine out of fifty one passes for three hundred and fifty yards and three touchdowns in a twenty seven, twenty four Rams win that made the Rams seven and three on the season. What Everson was talking about earlier, The Rams were actually

playing very well at that point of the season. Okay. The next week, Patrick Mahomes in the Chiefs go to that same stadium at Tampa and Patrick Mahomes was thirty seven out of forty nine for four hundred and fifty yards and three touchdowns, same as Golf in a twenty seven, twenty four Kansas City win over Tampa Bay, the exact same score as the Rams win the week before. Here we are two months later. Jared Goff is headed to Detroit.

Patrick Mahomes is headed back to Tampa for Super Bowl fifty five, a super Bowl that is being called by CBS analyst Tony Romo a generational matchup of quarterbacks, Everson This would be like Michael Jordan against Lebron James in an NBA Finals. We've got much more to come here on mix Shots, including a trip back to Tampa nineteen

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you're still there. Let's go back in time, Mickey, to a time. Oh, it was a little while ago, but it was the good old days when we weren't talking about quarterback matchups in a Super Bowl. We were talking about cornerback matchups in a Super Bowl in Tampa nineteen ninety one. Take us back in time, Mickey, Yes, absolutely so. If my math is right, that's thirty years ago, right, kind of an anniversary here. It was Super Bowl twenty five.

I believe it was January twenty seventh and one. Everson Walls, playing for the New York Football Giants, went into Tampa Stadium against the Buffalo Bills in in that Super Bowl,

and I just kind of stumbled across this. It was a twenty nineteen victory for the Giants, and for some reason, I don't know what I was looking up, but I found this quote from Bill Belichick after the game, and he would have been the Giants defensive coordinator in that game, and Belichick was quoted as saying, we wouldn't have won the game if Walls didn't make that tackle. And I was at the game, by the way, I was covering it.

As a matter of fact, when Scott Norwood was kicking the field goal at the end to try to win it that he missed. It was right on deadline for the newspaper for the Times Herald and everybody else had time to go down right to go do interviews. I was right on deadline, and I remember standing in my seat leaning out the window of the press box to watch this field goal to see if it was gonna be good or not. Right, That was my memory of

that game. But what Belichick was talking about was with a minute forty eight left in the game, Buffalo was on their nineteen yard line. It was third and inches, and they tried a kind of counter handoff to Thurman Thomas, who went twenty two yards and had not one Everson Walls made the tackle on that play. Thurman Thomas looks like he's going for a touchdown from the video I saw. When you see the play, there is nobody behind Everson

Walls if he doesn't make that tackle. And Belichick went on to say also afterwards, that was the play of the game, and I think we have video of it. We might be able to show at least the tackle along with uh Afterwards, after Scott Norwood miss the field goal, Everson Walls making his celebration that ended up on the cover of Sports Illustrated, by the way, and as a matter of fact, I want to show you what I

got here. This is the game program from that Super Bowl, and so I'm looking through it to see where's Everson Wall's picture and everything. Well, you know what, I've got two of them if if and when we show together again, right. But the weird thing was is if you remember there was a week there was only one week between the game. There was not two weeks, So everything in this program had nothing to do with either team playing in the game. I'm looking through it, I'm going, what the hell? Right?

And then I got I reminded myself that they won in San Francisco on a Sunday and flew all night to Tampa and guy in early on Monday morning. So I just thought we'd asked eversonce. So do you remember the play the way I described it and what was going where did you line up and what was going through your mind on that snap? No? It was you know at that time, Buffalo was the greatest show on turf, right, Yeah,

I mean they were bawling. They had blown out Miami and Oakland the consecutive playoff games like fifty something to something, forty four to nothing. I mean they were bawling. I think that year we were the only ones to keep Buffalo under twenty points all season. I could be wrong about nineteen ninety, but they beat us. They beat us seventeen to like fourteen in Jersey, and so we knew

what we had in store for us. So here we are two minutes to go, basically a two minute drill, and what we had done all game long was to keep them at bay. You know, no big plays because big players are gonna kill you, and they're gonna kill you morale. So Belichick had us play in that fashion. The only thing that surprised me about that game was the fact that he had me calling the plays the entire game they played. We played pretty much Nickel and

Dime the entire game. So I was back at safety, which is what I usually am on Nickel and Dime. So they're going no huddle on Buffalo side. We needed someone to be in the secondary to make those calls. He chose me. I think I was the oldest one back there at the time, and so during that play, during that drive, the handoff was easy to see. Backs the beginning of that Amba defense, right, we talked about

that Amiba defense. Belichick comes up with, well, we only had one defensive lineman in the game, so when the handoff was made, the hole was easy to make. We only had three lines, three down players, only one was a lineman, so he's coming right at me. I saw it right away, so I never took my drop to go to cover two. When I recognized what was happening. I wanted to make sure it wasn't a fleet flicker, so I just go running up. But I saw where

he had already crossed a line of scrimmage. I'm coming up, and according to Thermon Thomas, I talked to him like almost ten years after this play, he said he never saw me. Spags. He said, he never saw me. And that's one of those things about football to where you can be too smart. Sometimes he didn't. He didn't expect me to be there because they knew what the defense would be. We were predictable. It's to cover two. All he's thinking is, once I get by those linebackers, my

eyes are going to work. I can score a touchdown because the safeties are gonna be half to field. Well, I wasn't half to feel. I chose not to because I recognized it. And when I came up and made the play, although it was twenty two yards down, the field covered that ground very quickly. I did not know its twenty two yards Fags. He covered that ground extremely quickly. Next thing you know, he's on me and I make

a pretty unspectacular tapple. It's just the fact that we were able to bring him down and so I didn't know what was behind me. You mentioned that Parcels was asked, what would happen if Everson Walls misses that plate and h he's They asked, what do you think mil and Gotton would have caught it? And they said, yes, maybe in the parking lot. That's what parselves response was. So he was thinking about how you would think his fads in regards to that game, in regards to that place.

So how fitting it? How fitting is this you guys for for Everson Wall's career, you know, not recruited to college, wasn't drafted in the NFL, had to fight for everything it gets. So I read about the play and I said, Okay,

I gotta go find it. So I found the official play by play of the Super Bowl and I'm I'm going through here looking for the play, and all I was looking for was a Thurman Thomas run and an Everson Walls tackle right, and I'm going through and going through and the game's over and I where's the tackle? So I'd looked and they credited the tackle to not twenty eight fifty eight Carl Banks. He's on the other side.

He wouldn't even in the place that well maybe he jumped in and head an assist and they gave no, it wasn't. It was a solo diving tackle. But Everson Walls, if you ever go back in history to look for your tackle, it is not on the play by play sheet. I got one more thing forace bags, because you've got the official play by play. I think it was Dan Diodoff, Yeah,

was the color commentator. And you know, once again, this whole quarterback thing, there was never an emphasis on how important for tackle was during the play because all they wanted to talk about was how Jim Kelly was in the in position to leave them down the field. So just the tone deafness of some commentators can be, you know, different ways. Dick Lynch, the former Diglitz, the Great Diglitz, the commentator for the New York Giants, he ended up

actually giving me way. If you go back and listen to his broadcast of that play, he literally calls it out right there. He said, I might have saved the game. He said that right there. So it's just funny how you have different commentators looking at these games. But that was old school. When you're talking about Bill. There was no Jeff Hostetler versus Jim Kelly. Necessarily in that game,

the hight wasn't the way it is right now. And if you want to go back to where how the mentality was in New York MVP of by season and the MVP of that game was a running back in O. J. Anderson. So that's why I know I know this is that was nineteen ninety one and it is what it is today. But nothing to me has changed. Defense still wins ball games, and that's how we ended up dominating that entire season. We got more cheers for an eighty yard touchdown, I'm sorry.

We got more cheers for a sack on third and two and turning the ball over then we would get for an eighty yard touchdown. That's the mentality that they had in New Jersey at that time. And you know in the video the video I saw and I wasn't. I couldn't. I thought it was Dan Dear Dorri's voice. It might have been the it was pieced together, so it could have been the radio guy for the Giants of the time. But they did say a great open field tackle by Everson Walls. That's dig Lynch. That would

be dig Lynch right there. That's right. And then of course what I remember from that was Scott Norwood missfield goal. Okay, but the twenty to nineteen game, and then from that season two, Everson, you talk about defense. It just here we are thirty years later, and what sticks in my mind is the fifteen thirteen win in the conference championship game over San Francisco, you know, and they kept Joe Montana off the field, by the way, and that was

the difference in that game. Mother knocked him off the field at the time the game was over. Yeah. And one other memory from that Super Bowl covering it. It was during the Gulf War, by the way, and I remember before the game, those Blackhawk helicopters were flying over the stadium. They had cleared the airspace. They were circling the stadium and they had the side doors to the helicopter open and you could see open. You could see the guns pointing out that door. Uh. And it was

like it was it was chilling to see that. And I remember the national anthem was pretty emotional also, uh that game. And the other thing I remember, I was able to get two tickets to the game and my sister brought my dad to the game. And he got to watch a Super Bowl in the stadium. He had failing eyesight, but he could hear it and he could my sister can interpret to him. And it was a pretty neat day. That's Sunday for me. That's nice facts, that's good stuff like that. Brother, And he got to

see the Jiant. Well he can't possibly see the Giants kick ass, right, So that's that's a that That was a great, great day for everybody all the way around. I was saying, And now we go back to Tampa, a new stadium U for this Super Bowl fifty five on Sunday. Hey, guys, we gotta take a break. I don't know, I've lost contact with you, and so I am going to toss it to break. Okay, I've lost contact. But now when you think about it, it's facts that game. The way the security was in that game, that was

the first game where we were. It depicted how we had our security evolved in the in consequent games. Yeah, long lines, you know, extra security, extra wanding and everything. I remember my family was there, came for the game, and my sister was sick, my mom was sick, and my mom decided not to come and my sister. She braved it out and she almost painted in line because it was hot. It was hot, and it was a long, long line. It took a while in line in that long line, and she was she she was able to

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before the game. They spend all day discussing the candidates and in person of course, in the Super Bowl city, and then on Saturday night, on what has now turned into Super Bowl Saturday Night, the Hall of Fame class is presented. But late that afternoon, David Baker, the President of the Hall of Fame, will go by the hotel rooms of the finalists and inform them that they have made it into the Hall of Fame I think there's a one hundred percent chance that Drew Pearson is going

to go into the Hall of Fame and find out Saturday. Please, man, we had enough trauma these days. You know, they did a virtual discussion a couple of weeks ago. There was a fan vote that ended on January thirty first, and Mickey, I'm unclear on whether how much discussion they still need to do on Saturday, if any. I think I think that they went ahead and voted at the end of

that discussion a couple of weeks ago. But I may be wrong, but I think, you know, David Baker has made it a habit, even last year when he surprised Jimmy Johnson on the set at Fox, where you know he wants to make the presentation to people. I just would not be surprised if David Baker winds up at Drew Pearson's doorstep here in Dallas and uh and makes

a presentation to him at some point later in the week. Well, I would imagine it's gonna be a virtual knock on the door, because I can't imagine they're flying all these guys in the Tampa to for starters and that probably they're not doing that. Yeah, they'll virtually hook up. But he's the lone senior finalist, and normally those guys get in.

They just kind of rubber stamp it. But as you know, Drew knows, the year before when they were inducting the centennial class, it looked like he was going to get in, and he didn't get in after a thirty seven year wait and check out these these stats on Drew who played from nineteen seventy three through eighty three with the Cowboys. We know the history, we know the big plays he made at eleven year career, but here's the background on this and and and how he didn't get in yet

is still astounds me. There were twenty two First Team All Decade selections in nineteen seventies. Twenty one of them have a bust in Canton. The only one that doesn't, it's Drew Pearson. He's also the only first teamer that had never been discussed as a finalist as a finalist after all these years, and check this out. From nineteen thirty through twenty ten, a span of eight decades, there

were seventeen wide receivers selected First Team All Decade. Sixteen of them they have busts in Canton, and again, Pearson was the only first team wide receiver not enshrined. And there were second team All Decade receivers from seventies, eighties, nineties. They all have busts in the Call of Fame except for Drew Pearson. So this is a long overdue award

for for Drew. And I heard an interesting comment and I don't know Everson if you'll agree with this since you been close, but Chris Carter was being interviewed on NFL network. I believe it was, oh, maybe it was Friday, and he was another guy that waited a while to get in, and so they asked him, you know when you finally get in, did you feel vindicated? And he said he said, no, he goes once you're in, and you know you were in this exclusive group. It doesn't

matter how long it took you to get in. You're in, and he goes in, and you have a justification that you were one of the greatest players in the National Football League. And I think he mentioned something like there's been twenty five thousand guys to play in the NFL over all these years, and there's only three hundred. I don't have the number, off top of my head, three hundred and fifty people in the Hall of Fame, so

it's in a pretty exclusive group. And as mad as Drew was after being eliminated this previous time, I would think once he's in, he's gonna be very grateful. I think he was already pretty grateful even when he realized he was the only senior guy that was up. He was even smiling then. I think that was around a month ago or so, and it was good to see him smiling in regards to Hall of Fame as opposed to what we would call you know when you look at this stuff and it's it's always you know more

than I would spags because you're reported. I don't know if you're a voter or not. But when you have a team like the Cowboys, is where does the failure come from in regards to recognition Drew Pierson not only and you may have brought this up. There's a lot of statue brought up spats. Drew Pearson was the last, not just first teamer all decade. I think all the second teamers got in before he did, at least from

the wide receiver position. Because Harold Carmichael was the second team All Decade wide receiver and he got in before Drew Pierson just this pastime. So it was almost as if it was so glaring of an admission, it almost seemed to be personal. Of course, as a former Cowboy and Cowboy fan, I think you think it's personal by

the other Hall of Fame voters. We've always had this rumor that the Cowboys were getting snubbed because the other Hall of Fame voters never liked the American team Moniker that was placed on us by the by I think textum or whoever they have. Always there's always that that that belief by Cowboy fans and former Cowboy players. You know, you're looking a guy like t O, would you say that, no matter how long it took to to get in, is he actually happy to be in now? Is he

a participant? Because when you have your own ceremony separate from the Hall of Fame ceremony, I think you're making a clear statement. I don't think that has ever happened in the history of voting and accepting Pro Football Hall of Fame bus. So I don't know, man, I think that Drew's omission is glaring. I can go down the line you're looking at how we long in the Hall of Fame versus Harvey Martin not being in the Hall of Fame. You know, those type of glaring emissions. Omissions

are just too much for me to ignore. I can start fussing about myself, but I'm not because I'm still upset about the other guys that came before me that should be in the NFL Hall of Fame. It took mel Renfro, It took Ray feel Right to the end of their tenure and my rights, Bash yes, to be voted into the Hall of Fame. Mel Renfro was Hall of was All Pro almost every year, not to mention the fact that he played in at least four Super Bowls.

Ray Feel Right, if I'm not mistaken, was hall of He gave up maybe ten sacks to Roger Starbucks or whatever quarterback Cowboys had to their blind side. That's the toughest position, and yet he has to wait till his tenures almost up. So I don't understand Bob Hayes. I was gonna bring out Bob because you know what that was that occurred. I want to say it occurred the year the Super Bowl was in in Houston. And he

made it to the final seven. Uh, it was and and and and he he made it to the finals and they could even ducted seven guys, right, and he basically got voted out. That he didn't get voted in, and he didn't go and excuse me for going down memory lane again, but he didn't. He didn't get in until the Super Bowl. I believe it was the year the Super Bowl was in Tampa. The next time, it was the two thousand and nine January of two thousand

and nine. And the reason I remember this is Thursday night before the game, I wrote this column on all the reasons why you want Bob Hayes in the Hall of Fame and how injustice it was that he wasn't in. And it was a Thursday night, and my mom passed away the day before the game. She lived in Florida, and I was fortunate enough to be there. I went to I was with her when she passed away. Then the game was on Sunday, but Bob finally got selected. He last played I want to say it was nineteen

seventy four. Nineteen seventy four, This was two thousand and nine. Bob Hayes changed the game and change and the way I looked at the Hall of Fame. It's not all about stats. I can tell you Drew Pearson played eleven years, had four hundred and eighty nine receptions, forty eight touchdowns, all this stuff. But the job of the Pro Football Hall of Fame is to preserve the history of the game. Not the statistical history, but the history of the game.

In thirty years, will anybody remember or we won't be here to tell the story about the Hill Mary, about him catching that pass. So that needs to be preserved in the Pro Football Hall of Fame. The same thing with Bob Hayes. He changed the game, his speed changed the game, but there's going to be a point where people that saw him play know what he did, won't be here to relay that story. It needs to be preserved in the Pro Football Hall of Fame. And I

think what happens these days. Everson is number one. You're right about the East Coast bias against the Cowboys at number two. The voting committee has turned over so greatly that people voting now did not see guys play in the seventies. They didn't see guys play in the sixties. They might not have seen you play in the eighties. Let me let me interrupt you on that. Let me interrupt you on that, because that is a factor. Correct.

But my thing is this, if you accept and I think I may have said this on the show, if you accept that position as a younger player coming in, a younger writer, reporter coming in, and you're going to be voting on this, you do a disservice to your job and all the voters around you. If you don't do your job, if you don't do your research, that's what you're there for. Oh well, I can only vote on guys that I saw play. Well, how stupid is that?

Then you shouldn't be a voter. We have access to almost any type of information that we need on this little box thing I got right in front of me, and you're telling me you don't have the ability to go back and do your research. You don't have access to all of the NFL films that you need to have access to vote on a Drew Pierson, to vote on a hell call, Michael rayphel right, even go back

further than that. That's your job. If it's too much for you, then get out because you've got a lot of work to do when you're talking about salvaging these guys relationship that they fought tooth and there for that they shed so much blood for not just for themselves and for the family, but for their teammates and for this league that the Hall of Fame voters are supposed to be representing. So it's a connection that you can't break. And even I say this, fag, I maybe out of line.

I usually am. When you've got tex Shram and guys like that controlling not just our negotiations and our salaries and our reputation, but you've also got certain Hall of Fame voters for the cowboys back in the day that was colluding. I guess with the owners sometimes that memory that text has because he had one like a fricking elephant. Those grudges are sometimes displayed through the lack of Dallas cowboys in the Hall of Fame. You talked to I talk.

I don't even want to say their names, but they have actually said to me that they have been informed that the pushback from some Hall of famers comes from within. So we're being cannibalistic as cowboys. We're eating our own. Let the rains go. Talk about what Harvey Martin did as a player, how many sacks he had, the fact that he had so many they took away too. If I'm not mistaken, all of these things, to me are a part of a legacy that is really a shame

here in Dallas. And it doesn't start in New York and East Coast necessarily, Spags. It started right here before we even got to Valley Ranch. That was over there in Forest Laying Abrams, where I used to drive my raggedy car down to practice every day, which was a little bit better than your Yes, hey, we got a minute left. We got one minute left. I got one more thing. Who's gonna Who's gonna win the Super Bowl? Brady or my Holmes? Can I just say the Kansas

City Chiefs? Please? Can I just say that? Can I? Can I be politically incorrect and just say Chiefs? Judging from the first time Mickey, the first time they met, judging from the first time they met, Tyrek Hill is gonna win the Super Bowl? That's exactly right. In fact,

that leads me to my parting comment. Do yourself a favor if you've got NFL game pass and go back and watch the Week twelve matchup between the Bucks and the Chiefs, I mean between Brady and Mahomes, and I mean that that is a great way to prepare for this game. And it's going to be very interesting to see what Todd Bowles has up his sleeve this time instead of maybe the single high safety that Mahomes was

facing last time when Tyreek Hill in that game. He had over two hundred yards receiving in the first quarter of that game, which went round up being Now Bulls made adjustments as that game went on and it wound up being a good game. Twenty seven twenty four Kansas City one. But I'm so you're taking the Chiefs, Everson Nicky're taking the check who the chief Chiefs? And I'll take the Chiefs also, So there you go. We're in agreement. We're picking against Tom Brady. Go no, no, we're picking

against the Bucks. Damn it. Everybody's all right, that does it? And I got to score. It's gonna be twenty to nineteen. Ryan suck Up's gonna miss a field goal on the last play of the game, thirty years after. Scott Norwood. All right, we'll talk at you again next Tuesday. Here on Mix Shots Go Cowboys. This has been a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club.