Mick Shots: Football Activity

podcast studio. And ah, there's Everson's favorite song right there, right, Everson Baby, that is bit there it is. It's a victory Thursday here inside the st we're playing it, but I'm gonna go with it for old time, same football. There are football players on a football field here at the Start in Frisco, and we have all members of mix Shots here right. So ya were here last week? Last we were here last week? He was better watch out because Chris Hall took your spot? And oh did

he really? I got I need to go back to compliments for having Chris Hall on. He did? He welcome and get compliments from about having Bill on or ever I was here last time. So though that's like when you bring somebody new it, right, they're used to the old style. Okay, okay, I thought you so I'm only pit be careful, so Chris, no, you're not because I had to take your players. Okay. Yeah, so there's never any danger, no, no, whatsoever. That's why Christians run with it,

so spags wouldn't have to talk too much. Well, I can't wait to go back and listen to it. I was kind of busy last week. Yeah, where were you? I was in San Francisco, you were in town. Well, it's um, we had to have you know, it's it's a little where's the last time you were in San Francios Well two years ago? Okay, yeah, all right, yeah, I won't bring up the other times that you've been there. Uh I went to the Super Bowl, come on, yeah, yeah you did. I will go about Cowboys here. I

was telling the story. Uh you know, of course, the Mavericks are playing the Warriors in the Western Conference Finals. And the first time that I was in might have been the first time ever in San Francisco was when the Cowboys played the Niners in the NFC Championship Game. Into the ninety two season, I spent a week out there, uh previewing good time and in fact, Everson we went to Dwight Clark's restaurant there in San Francisco as we led up to it is still, in my opinion, the

greatest football game I've ever gone to. NFC title thing in a NFC championship game in nineteen ninety two one, that's right, that's right, that's right. But he had an NFC title game. Yeah, that's right. So anyway, did you eat well? Uh? Actually know we were. We hit the ground running and we never stopped running. I furty okay, queen game. At the hotel we stayed at in downtown San Francisco, it was probably on Thursday morning. For breakfast, I got an orange juice. Um what else did I get?

I got four things like a it was a uh some sort of breakfast something I can't remember exactly you spent let me guess you guess how much. That's my point. I got an orange juice, water at the hotel, a cup of coffee, and something to eat like a like what it was was a fruit little thirty thirty at least thirty. You didn't even get like a breakfast. No, it wasn't even a break both it was no, and it was thirty five dollars. Bro Yes, come on, man,

thirty five dollars. The guy in front of me in line, he got one of I oh my water was a sixteen ounce water. Oh wow, yeah, you're being gleed. Yeah, it was an extra SI. It was five fifty. It was five fifty. So the guy in front of me had just finished a workout and he got the big the big bottle of water. Okay, I guess it's thirty two ounce. It was eight dollars and fifty says and he said, I'm sorry, I'm taking it back. I can't get this. Just a matter of principle, I could drink

out the foss That's right, that's right. So anyway, that's what I was doing last night. Now, don't get me. Let's let's go. Let's keep keep down this old man path with going here. Uh went to DFW eight of the bar. I had a just a beer and some chicken fingers. Twenty seven bucks for beer and chicken fingers dinner. It was just a few strips. Yeah, twenty say how much? Twenty twenty seven? Come on, man, that's been every everything

that I ate there even at the game. I just went to concession stand whatever, and it was thirty dollars. And so that's my stater. When I turned my expense report, you know, it's everything's thirty to thirty five dollars. So wow, welcome to the big city. That's right, that's right, yep, and I get off my lawn. Meanwhile, here OTA's have begun this week and it was an open session for the media yesterday, and I know Mickey Spagnola was in there. Oh look at that legal pad. It is full of

notes from observed yesterday during OTA's. Yes Uh, it was our first chance to actually watch him practice. Thought we'd be able to peek at him on Tuesday, but it rained and they they were indoors, go indoors, and went indoors again yesterday. Um, but yeah, it was good to see a little football action. Um, although um, you know they don't. I think everybody needs to understand anything you read about whatever anybody did. Tristan Hill beating Tyler Smith.

No pads, okay, it's helmets, jurybody, calm down and shorts okay. And when they were going team most of it was half speed. I mean when they were running routes the DBS were. You know, it wasn't like a hotly contested thing until the end when they were they were actually running routes hard and the DBS were uh covering. The half speed reminds me of the story from Cowboys training camp from Jimmy and Austin and Uh, I guess I

won't say the sportscaster's name. Um, and he wasn't here for very long, so it wasn't Dale Hansen or Mike Doocey or Bill Jones. But they were running like a three quarter speed goal line drill and the offense, ever so, the offense scored on every place, So I remember that. It's so Ted Nobson asked Jimmy after after the practice. He said, Jimmy, are you concerned about your goal line defense? Ted? That was half speat, Hey, I and it's it's camp. For the ninety one season, I did a Sunday Night

uh segment with him after every game. Oh my gosh. He would ask where you got this mick rant from. He would talk to Jimmy, he would ask me. He would ask me what I wanted to talk about ahead of time? Right, and so I kind of give him all this stuff then we can get on the air live. And we go on the air live, and he would not ask me anything we previously just other stuff. And

I had never done TV before. And the lady that was came here with Jimmy to do some of the TV shows, Brenda bouchell I told her, I said, what do I do? And she goes answer his question and then say what you want to say, like what you told him you were going to talk about, and then talk about that. Okay, So I digressed, and so take it from there. So as far as what you saw yesterday, yeah, I just reminded that. Well I had another one for

you too. But watching a training camp practice where the first team or the scout team offense was going against the first team defense. And you know what happens, right, You're supposed to run the play, throw the pass, and the defense intercepts. Right. So the poor third string quarterback was running the scout team, he got intercepted like three or four times, and somebody reported, yeah, thumbs down for whoever it was, because he got intercepted for a time.

So anyway, or they'll have drills, you know, parcels would do the situation drills, and the idea of the drill is to throw the ball. Throw the ball, throw the ball in the stands. Basically, you're you're killing the clock. Basically you're in San Antonio and they decided there's five seconds to go in the game. You're winning. You got to kill the clock. And Quincy Carter drops back and throws it way high and out of bounds, and all

the people started booing, like, you missed the receivers. The crowd starts booing, yeah, the drift right, but he was doing it is throwing it out high and by time the ball comes down the right. But there was now maybe the play of the day. And this is what we talked about quite a bit last week because of Everson's sort of connection to Marquis Bell because undrafted rookie mom and dad have both called me to make sure

looking out for them. Boy. So, so they're in goal line, uh and it's fourth and goal at the one, and Cooper Rush drops back to throw a quick out to his left to do Ontario Drummond, rookie wide receiver, and Bell is covering him out of the slot. He jumps the route for an interception and he basically goes ninety nine yards through the touchdown? Right, he didn't want to quit and run it? Right? Did he ran all the way all the way right? At what he what he

got there? He had to come back all the way right, he didn't get it. He didn't give up the football. I said, oh, he's going to keep it as a souvenir, right, And then when he got back to somebody that was you know, he handed And so when McCarthy was asked about it, he said, you know, he goes, he was pretty impressive during the rookie mini camp and he continues

to stand out. And somebody said, Yanni would have had a touchdown, right, he goes, well, I think he stepped out of bounds and it's like, let's not worry about the small stuff. Right. But I'll tell you what when you saw him jumped the route and take off. We talked last week about his four four one speed. He's got four four one speed for a guy his side. Uh, he's been pretty impressive. So is he as big as Jay Vons? Not as tall? He's six two, but he's two yeah what is he now? Because we talk about

the variation in his weights. So he's six two and I want to say two twelve, but he looks bigger. He looks like a linebacker. Um, yeah, six two two twelve, okay, but more like Wilson. Well got safety Wilson, right, yeah, but just I don't know he's he's taller and he just when I saw him, I said, God, he looks like a linebacker. And then when they were and when they were talking about him, dan Quinn mentioned his name

and he goes, yeah, when he goes. When I first saw him work out, I look at guys and I want to see them on how I would use him on my team in my defense. And he said, when I saw Marquise, I said, well, he might be able to play linebacker, be that j Ron Kurtz type guy in my defense. And he said so when he came here the first time I had him meeting with the linebackers,

I wanted to see what how he would develop. So he was one of my guys that last week last Friday, when I wrote my column, I said, okay, keep an eye on these two guys, Marquise Bell and t J. Vasher. The wide receiver six six out of Texas Tech. He spent all last year on non football injury. He had knee surgery and you just look at his Look at him. He's always open, right, he's six six, Just throw it up, and he had a catch yesterday that got a couple

of wiles from from everybody. Wouldn't you think that, God he could do. I think he could really control things a bit better if you're looking at that size, yeah, and looking at that speed and his agility, not not just straight line. I'm talking his agility. You seem to I haven't seen it. You seem to talk very well as Wes dan Quinn about his agility. I'd rather have him at safety. Yeah, when you have that kind of agility. Well, when they lined up with the second team, he was

one of the two safeties. I'd like to see him playing the ball in the air down the field. You know, how well do you play that? I mean, we can all look good, but when that ball is in the air, you have to know how to attack it. You don't have to necessarily make the picks, of course I love that, but how to attack it in the air, catch a highest point. Those the kind of things that alongside the amazing stuff that you said he's doing, that's kind of things that you kind of want to look for so

you weren't here. But Everson points out that his roommate in college, mar uh is my roommate in college. His sister in law, that's her nephew. Okay, okay, that's basically it. Okay, Yeah, so he had some insider information and mom and dad all call him, like, look out for my baby. You know you can tell him about the interception. Yes, yes, yes, And I've been trying to catch up with him. I called him and he was on the elevator and he couldn't hear me. And then once he got down, I

tried to call him. You know, we just send some clone. No, you're gonna have to come out for a practice. There you go, there you go. Maybe we can finally meet. So anyway that, um, you mentioned Tyler Smith, and so I'm not sure when the last time he lined up against somebody at guard it was against uh, it was

probably against Arlington Martin. Yeah, now, Arnington Martin has some really good talent though, I mean, Miles Garrett bladed on to Martin when he was in North Since you mentioned the offensive line when they first went out there, Uh, Tyrn Smith, you're not gonna like to hear this, but he evidently had some back tightness. Tyrant Tyrant, Yeah, and uh so he wasn't out there. I'll go over some

of the guys that were out there. Yeah, but anyway, uh, Matt Molets go, uh there, let's fourth round, fourth round, while let's go yeah. Uh, he was and Ball were kind of sharing that left tackle spot. Connor mcgovernn was at left guard, Tyler Beatis at center, Zach Martin, and

then Terrence Steele. So this is what normally happens, right when when they start these types of practice, there's a deference to guys who are veterans, like you get to go out first because the rookies got to earn his right. So so Tyler Smith uh went out with the second team at left guard. I like the fact that they're working him just at guard right now. Yeah. I mean he's twenty years old to just I'm sorry, I was looking at I was looking. He's exactly what I told

the guard first round draft pie guard. And yes, and if that we draft a guard, that's a first pick. I'm still trying to get over there. And if that back tightness continues, he'll be we'll be trying to make sure you say Tyler and not not Tyrant. Tyler Tyrant. So anyway, so that would be that's when we get concerned about Tyrn's Tyrn Smith's back tightness. If they start working Tyler Smith at left tackle, although they want, well let's go to be the swing tackle. They think he's

got the ability play left and right. Uh, they're looking at balls a backup right tackle, Terrence Steel. I'd love to see this guy get in and play man ball. Just get just to see right quality time. I want to say, some quality time. Well, you'll get it in preseason. And you've got you've got two tackles now that are both six to eight right balls. If I remember correctly, that was that was his size. Um, I don't want

to be too big. I want to make sure that can see I mean he's going the ball and that they can move well enough they're both get out the way they're both Yeah, well that'll that'll that'll take care of your blind side because you won't be able to see over there. So anyway, I have a I have a question. You know me, I'm a YouTube guy. If you don't know it, now you know it. Now say the Cowboys signed Quandre Mosley. Is that true? Tell me about this guy? Yes? That talking about the guy defensive back.

I don't know if Chris number thirty seven, thirty six four point three forty year, thirty nine, number thirty nine corner yesterday I was asking, Yes, I was just asking if if spack Nola saw him out there. Obviously you didn't. He's looking at his notes. But a Kentucky Yeah, they talked about another one out of Kentucky. It's a rookie free agent. What the hell's wrong with that? So it's Mark, you got you gotta go. You gotta show up for you before I'm gonna re memoriz. I thought, I thought,

maybe with a point. Here's the difference. Here the here's the difference. Markispell got a little bit of money when he signed as a rookie free agent, right and Quandre hasn't. He got fifteen thousand dollars there you god, yeah, was there going to guarantee? They guaranteed him a full year's salary on the practice squad. Okay, So basically it's like, Okay, we think you're good enough to at least make the p actor squad will give you eighteen weeks of pay,

which comes to about now now eighteen weeks. Well you thought about eighteen times. What it's like almost two hundred, two hundred thousand nice things. There you go. Yeah, so every soon, would you like to just be a practice squad quarterback? I've been saying that for a long time. Sure, I said that last season. Remember I was upset about what they're getting just to be on the practice squad.

Give me a break. They can have a fifteen hundred dollars get about his signing bonus last fifteen hundred Gil could take that. But my boy, Mosley that I have some good stuff on him. He's okay. Six career games. I'm gonna keep an eye. He only started like four starts. Three year career in Kentucky. Sixty nine tackles, three tackles for loss, He got sacked, ten breakups. So yeah, you could just see he's just one of those young guys. Came over from wide receiver and decided, you know what,

maybe I can play defensive back. So we'll see Kentucky Pro Day four three two forty. Oh there you go. Yeah, thirty six inch vertical uh, and he's about six one six two. But he didn't get drafted. Huh didn't I get No, he just didn't have He just didn't have enough time because he comes from a wide receiver. So I'd just like to keep out this young man. See what the heck he's doing. You never know where those

diamonds in the buff come from. So the other thing I think that stood out was, Uh, you know, I think everybody's somewhat worried about the wide receiver position and knowing that Michael Gallup is not working out. They lose Amari Cooper, they lose Cedric Wilson, so it's assumed that ceedee lamb number one guy. And Uh, I like the way he talked about it with a lot of confidence, saying that's always been my goal to be the number one receiver. Uh. Now without Gallop there, James Washington shows

up with a walking boot on his left foot. Great, and he's not practicing. Turns out he's got a strained tendon in his left foot. Uh. They don't think he'll be out too long. But he wasn't out there. But at least you got to see the third round picked Jalen Tilbert making lots of plays out there. Fortunately, Tulbert was working with Britt Brown doing rehab on the chores. I know he helped me out transition there. Right, So when they first went out, it was Ceedee Lamb, Noah Brown,

and Semi Fijokow Semi looking. He caught a couple of passes. Okay, I have high hopes for him, but he didn't get to play last year, and so I want to see what he's got the other So the rest of the receivers that were out there had a total of sixteen catches. Well, you hope you have enough up that your fifth round

draft pick doesn't have to play a rookie year. But apparently, as it stands right now, if they were to play a game this Sunday on Memorial Day weekend, your starting wide receivers would be Ceedee Lamb, Noah Brown, and Semi pe Hoko. That's right, if they started to tomorrow. So it didn't sound like sound like Jalen Tilbert would be Mike McCarthy said he'd be back next week. So but yeah, it wasn't a good visual at the wide receiver position, knowing what you had lost and what you were hoping for,

and then Tilbert's not practicing and James Washington. It's not practicing. Washington evidently didn't seem too concerned about it, So we'll see where that one goes. So you're good with the depth that's at the receiver position, buggers or a need to go get someone who I think them playing experience. I think they're going to keep an eye on it.

Is there a history of Washington's injury that particularly injury now I don't believe so, or at least I didn't hear about it, So it didn't seem like they were overly concerned. But you would like him out there, were working as much as he can at this time with Dak Prescott, who last year at this time, you know, they were keeping close tabs on him because he was still rehabbing from his surgery, his ankle surgery. But he

was moving around a little and moving pretty well. But again, you know this will be you know, he hadn't had an off season like this, so that certainly helps him out, uh, to actually be out there or working with these guys that that they you know, didn't have that opportunity much last year. I know, if he's up to him, he worked the hell out of him and this offseason you know, just ing sure, we have timing you just I mean, he's got to work with all the wide receivers considering

the many possibilities that they're out there. You know, they had a couple other guys not working out, Carlos watching Osa, Odigi Zua had a quad strain, and then you know Jaquon Hardy and ric o'dowdell were working with Brits, so they had some sort of sprains. Davante Bond, a rookie free agent back Glahoma, he wipped off at one point he was kind of holding I think it was his right knee. And Alex Lindstrom, another rookie free agent offensive lineman,

had an appendectomy. And then we know Jabril Cox and Damon Clark are still rehabbing from their surgeries. So there it is. There is your first Open Ota injury, which when Mike was asked about a couple of the injuries, he goes, what we got to do injury ports for jeez? All right, we continue with more mix shots. In just a moment, brace yourself for an existential question. Has your butt been having enough fun lately? Have you been treating it well? Has it been going place? Is if not,

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Chris Hall do the reads? No, Everson Walls stepped to the plate. Did now knocked it out the box? Base? I bet you did right slow motion, but it wins the race, thank you very much. I would call that from winning the watching cartoons. Don't don't, don't don't mention that to Rich Rich strike. By the way, now I'm looking at these roosters here, this this jersey, So all these guys. Kelvin Joseph's got number one, Jordan Lewis's jersey. He was your number last year. Yeah, I know. And

now you've got some guy named Israel muh number twenty four. Yeah, he seventh round picked last year. He was in his I think a thirty. Where do you come from? South Carolina? South Carolina? Yeah, he played corner in safety in college at South Carolina and they moved him to safety. Yeah,

all right, I'm looking at kid, big guy. But yeah, okay, So Kelvin Joseph's wearing number one, Jordan Lewis is now wearing number two, Anthony Brown is now wearing number three, and other dbs of course, Donovan Wilson last year War six and Treyvon seven. So what do you think about the single digit dbs. I love it, I really do. I call I called the corny earlier. But anything that

can confuse quarterbacks, I love it. They don't know where they're coming from, they don't know whose numbers who I think I'm more I'm more happy with the linebackers having these small, low numbers because that really confuses a lot of quarterbacks. You got Michael Pauses up there, is he gonna be linebacker or a defensive end? Then you got uh Wilson Dophin. Wilson might come up and show in a blitz, then he might be back in the middle

of the field. You know, you've got Jabril Cox number fourteen. You know what linebacker was? Number fourteen? He can't be a linebacker. Oh there's the blitz. You see what I'm saying. So that's why Tom Brady was complaining. I love it. I love it. I love it. I really If I would have been able to do that, I would have kept my number nine from Grammy state you are number nine, number nine? Who had nine when you were here? Uh? Anybody no Mitch Hoops? Yeah, beat somebody like Mitch. So

this was this was. This was funny when we were talking to Cede lamb Uh. His locker now is next to Das at Dak's request. Uh. And so somebody said, well, where was your locker And I was thinking, yeah, where was it? And he mentioned, oh, it's over there where Braylon Jones is. And I'm going, I don't remember seeing him there. It's like, no, because I wasn't in the locker room his first two years in the National Football All. That's right because of COVID uh in twenty twenty, right,

so I have no idea where his stuff was. And may Cooper, Ah, so he's replaced you and so did they have a ceremony? Yeah? So, And then I was looking for Dalton Scholtz. Well, the last time I would have talked to Dalton Scholtz in the locker room, he was next to the little walkway that goes into the showers stalls, right. I looked over there and it's like, well, where's Dalton Schultz. Well, he's way down the other end

of the of the locker room. And then dawned on the other side of that, and then it dawned on me. It's like, yeah, you know, other than when I was here with the rookies. I hadn't been in the locker room with the veterans the last well, it had been the day after they got beat uh in the playoff game after the twenty ninth was twenty. No, it was the last game of the season twenty nineteen, right when they finished eight and eight. That was the last time

we'd been. Because all the other interviews have been outdoors. Basically one person comes out, everybody interviews them. So you actually had an opportunity to walk by and like talk to somebody without twenty people with you. Uh. It was a little different, but it felt right at least. So what did it did? Did look any different? I mean besides people getting moved in dinner, just moved around. Yeah,

Dak was in the same place, you know. And then a lot of the early conversation, especially with Dak and de Marcus Lawrence, Uh, it was about the tragan and Uvaldi Uh and uh, you know, somebody somebody asked, Dak, is somebody going to tell you, you know, stick to sports, don't be talking about other stuff? He goes, I don't think anybody's ignorant enough to say that to me. Just like that, I thought that was pretty good, and you know, and and the other thing he said that you know

it was I mean, it stuck out. He was talking about, you know, gosh, we got to be scared to send our kids to school. He said, I'm almost fearful now to have kids. You know, I don't have any right. Um, and DeMarcus Lawrence talked about how tough it was to send his kids back to school. He's got three four something like that, and uh said he'd you know, he'd

get into the locker room and call his wife. Everything okay, everything good, you know, so uh yeah, there was a lot of talk about, uh, the effect of what happened there with the nineteen murders. To this point, you don't have to twenty one nineteen kids kids, right, You don't have to have kids, just like Dak doesn't have kids to empathize. Of course, people always talk about how, you know, you can relate because you're kind of in a similar situation,

but you really don't have to be. You know, the tragedy is the tragedy itself. So well, we've all had kids exactly, and you think back, I mean, you know, if you're a parent, I mean, gosh, and even Mike McCarthy told us afterwards that, you know, they had talked about him giving an opening statement when he did his press conference, and he said that he said, I can't. I don't think I can do it. He said, I'll

get too emotional. Well, he got asked the question, and he got about thirty seconds into it and he started getting real emotional, talking about yeah, I've got, you know, a daughter of fourth grade or whatever, and he needed a few moments, and two or three times he stopped, and he was he was he was pretty broken up just thinking about it, right, And then I think towards the end of when he finished it, he goes, well,

I'm irish, and when we get old, we cry alt. Yeah, and I said, Italian guys say, we all kind of cry more at this age. Yeah, you know, it just not just the kids, everybody. I worry about that. Like my wife works at them all, you know. I mean, you got people shooting up grocery stores and churches and and all of that. So you know, just to be in to just think of that in any situation, it's really kind of tough, you know, Like you said, call

your wife. I mean I talked to him. I called almost every day at work, you know, just to check in, especially when I'm board and see what's going on. But otherwise you worry about any situation where a lot of people in place and can't be hurt. Uh, and being this this precarious situation just from going to work, just going to school, and I think the church and for these guys, I think the door opened Tuesday evening when Steve Kerr stood up there before the game. I don't

know if you were there. He had to cover it, but he opened the door and just you know, went off. And and people need to understand there's no division between reality and sports, right, it overlaps. These guys are living lives, right, not just playing sports. And and I was glad Dak said that it's like, don't even you know, insult me that I can't have a say. I think when with fans, fans often come to a sports event to escape, right, They watch it to escape. Well, the people that you're watching,

they're not robots, they're people as well, So what's their escape? Yeah, you understand. And when you're talking about Steve Kirk with the history that he has, if I'm not mistaken, his father was killed in a terrorist accident or something like that, so assassinated. I mean, so that has never been with a kid, that's his dad, and yet he still can feel it. So, uh, you know, the kids. Of course, that's the main tragedy of it. But you know, I think the other tragedy is where can we be safe?

That's the problem. It's like I was at the ac getting ready to do a live shot at four o'clock on the Mavericks Warriors game, and I'm sitting there on that Tuesday, on that Tuesday, and I'm like, and it And I think everyone once you when you hear about it, and I just heard about it. Probably I was driving to the arena heard about it, and it's like, you got this such a sick feeling in the pity of your stomach. You don't even feel like doing whatever it

is you're assigned to do at that moment, you know, stop. Yeah, I mean it's just like and Neui scrugs, and I and uh, Mike Leslie, We're all on the side on the sideline getting ready to do and fortunately they didn't come to us, obviously because they were covering that event. And we're like, why come does anyone I mean, this is so trivial compared to what just happened. It what Bill Jones had said, right right, and we're supposed to Yeah,

I had to do a radio segment. I have one every Tuesday late afternoon with the radio station and Tyler KTBB, and I was like, I don't want to do this. I don't know if I can. Fortunately the subject didn't come up because I don't know if I would have been able to talk about well. And that's the way I'm handling it right now. I'm not watching any of it because I'm I'm sitting there. I don't want to put my brain around this evil that happened. You know, I don't want to and so it's too sickening to

even hear the stories about it. Yet. Well, they when I was watching the news that night, UM one of the stations had a very young, a female female man that I was going to bring that and I was like, she doesn't have enough experience to do this, and she she got fifteen seconds in two yes, ready to break down. She kind of did. I mean, you're in there, you're seeing, you're around all these people that are mourning, and it just gets into here. You could just feel it around.

You could see it around her, and there's no way she was going to escape that. I saw that, and to me, it just kind of lends to the tragedy, you know what I mean, just how bad it is and how much it effects everyone. I mean, what was she probably twenty five years old, maybe she's just out of high school seven years and you know, she's looking at this and yeah, I thought that was very poignant

because it showed the emotion. I'm glad she broke down like that, because sometimes you can't just be you can't just do your job. Yeah, you know, sometimes showing that emotion was her doing her job. That to me displayed the tragedy itself. That was a mirror of what the tragedy was. So I was and she got herself together, she pulled it together. She did a good job, and she passed it onto somebody as they came back to it, you know, and she was a little bit more steady.

And the good thing was when they passed it on to the veteran report she covered first. That just shows you the emotional and I thought that was pretty perfect. I don't know if a female would have done that, but a female reporter I remember when you know. I was in the practice facility when the roof came down and I had just started doing stuff at the fan, and they immediately called me and they wanted, you know,

go on the air and talk about it. I said, you know what, you're gonna have to give me a few moments. I don't think emotionally I can come out there and speak without making you know, and it's a full on site on site. Your dreading was too going. So we waited an hour, right, and then I went on and I was still saying a little bit of problem talking about it, knowing you know, what had happened and what could have been and so yeah, it's a

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you're watching from home or cheering in the stands. With lenses, you'll see every exciting play book, an appointment at your local SLAR experts, and find the perfect SLR lens for you See more, Do more lore. By the way, you want to look at the number ninees in Cowboys history. I was trying to think back quarter quarterback head. I

mentioned Mitch Hoops, Did you did yes? Nineteen seventy five, Mitch Hoops wore number nine, putter so and when you became a Dallas Cowboy, number nine was available if they let cornerbacks wear number nine back then, Because the next number nine in Cowboys history as far as a regular season now, they might have been a number nine in the preseason, but the list in the media guide is

just the guys that made the regular season roster. Roger Rusick kicker nineteen to one, of your teammates nineteen eighty seven to eighty nine, and then Cooper Cup's dad or number nine nineteen ninety one with the Cowboys very briefly, and of course Rodney Pete right, and then Daniel Gonzalez in nineteen ninety eight. Now my number before twenty four, they just threw me anything. I think they actually had a whole in the dawn. Jason, twenty four should have

been a wanted number. That's I mean, that's very cool. They didn't ask me what the hell I wanted. Look up, you look at me, SAgs undrafted free day, just say we're at the crap and they threw me on number twenty seven. And I had number twenty seven. Ron Fellows almost all through training camp. Ron did not have twenty seven. I don't know what. I can't remember what he had in training camp. It wasn't twenty seven. I had twenty seven. He ended up with twenty four and twenty four, I

had twenty seven. Remember he was a wide receiver, well so so did he come in a zoo wide receiver? Came in as a d was a wide receiver at Missouri. Right, They drafted him and said we're gonna so he would have had a dB number. He would have had dB. I can't remember when he came into They didn't think he was gonna make it, and so they gave him thirty eight. He was a draft he was seven. You

didn't drafted out of Missouri your name? He was seven eight? Yeah, and Ken Miller from mister State was seven bat that's what they called him. Seven seven first first, seventh round, thick seconds. And by the way, he was a pretty good wide receiver in college, was he really? Yeah? Yes he was. He was, you know, one of those things speed. He's got the uh. I told him he got the inverted thing because hearts on his right side. I did not know his heart on he's got there. I saw

it on the TV. Really, yes, he legitimately has his everything is like reverse. I guess you know. It's it's rare, but no big deal. There's no uh, you know danger. As long as it's work, it still works. They don't know how, but it still works. By the way, that year the two Missouri guys got drafted first round. Party Howard Richards. That's right, how Richard. He was doing, by the way, analyst radio. He's the radio network analyst host for Missouri now and he was he was working with

the FBI at one point, if I'm not mistaken. Yeah, yeah, he was a big time. He was pretty sharp, he was. He's still a good guy, still a good Eric. Eric Wright got drafted in eighty one. Also, now that guy there, that's the that's the savior of the San Francisco game, right there, got Drew from behind. Drew that's the savior with the finger a finger today it would be called the horse sky to tackle. Yeah, that's just how close. It was very interesting. All right, all right, so um

to two more things I got on your legal pad. Um, we're empty. You know we were talking about we were talking about how they were kind of looking for tight ends, right, they needed help at tight end. If you look at your list here there are six tight ends that were

on the field. Uh last wow, yesterday, not only Dalton Schultz, but you know, their fourth round picked Jake Ferguson, Jeremy Sprinkle came back, actually had a couple of catches, uh yesterday, Ian Bunting uh and Sean McEwan and then Peyton hender Shot was a rookie free agent. So wait, wait, wait, you can't mention nine. Very nice, you're not explaining from Indiana. Hayden is so uh yeah, they're they're, you know, making sure And Ferguson looks the part. Now they gave him,

they gave him forty eight. But I give him credit that he in his rookie interview, or maybe it was last week in his interview, he knew that Darryl Johnston had forty eight. So sharp kid, right, he knows it's cowboys here. So so uh yeah, you hadn't even seen these guys do anything, have you? Now? Now you don't even know anything about these guys at all. I mean, I know, you know a couple of guys that I might have looked up. But Hendershot had forty six catches

and four touchdowns for Indian last year. Right, Well, there we go. We'll keep an eye on him. They had a decent season last year, didn't they. Yes, they did. Um. The other thing I think of note in the Cowboys haven't done this in a while. Um. This training camp there we have two planned scrimmages. First with Denver. So the first preseason game is at Denver and they're gonna go a couple days early and have a scrimmage two days before the game with the Broncos. And then the

second preseason game is uh they break in camp. They're going to La No La to play the Charger play the Charge the camp in uh, California, the Raiders, Oh no, I'm sure not okay after moving there, okay, uh, And they're gonna scrimmage the Chargers twice, uh, and then have a day off and then play the final preseason game or the final road preseason game, and then head home. They don't play them in the regular season. Correct the Chargers not this year? Good? But they did they did

last year. So so H McCarthy said, he really hasn't done this before, but after they did it with the Rams last year, and he said, talking to some of the other coaches felt like it was a good idea. He well, you mean they haven't done this. He hadn't scrimmaged teams before. Really, Yeah, he did back in the nineties, Yeah, he said, but not as a head coach. He did it when he was in Kansas that recently, but because

I thought that was the norm. I mean, they had been doing it, but not since he didn't do it is his first year. I guess, well the pandemic. The Cowboys had did it with the Rams, remember that that year they called off the second one because of the I was going to call it a riot. It was like a rocket Jeff Fishers Rams. They had a melee out there, right. Yeah. That and the footy thing about that is so I was over on the field that

it didn't start on. I was watching the Cowboys offense, right, and it started, and they were in goal line, right, and all the Rams, all but one guy, it was a veteran linebacker, all but one guy. Their whole defense ran on the other field. Romo brought the Cowboys to the light of Cerramids and hiked the ball and went in for a touchdown, right. And then we were running over into the other field, and I remember somebody yelling at us to get back. I said, don't be worried

about me. I said, you got sixty guys out there swinging at each other, right, Uh, that was that was scarydown against no defense. There was one guy it was a linebacker. Yeah, it was funny, but I don't think anybody saw it because everybody was running to the field. But you know the bad part was is it spilled over to the fence on the side of the field where the fans are, and the fans were standing there and all of a sudden they started like swinging at

the players. Why that Raider fans are Rams fans? I should say? So? Wait, you know the way Bill gave me this little notation here, you said, Jeff Fisher's rams. Uh huh? What does that mean? You trying to chest versions? They were? They came not they came floated for bear, It's it's a it's a training camp practice. What is the deal? Right? Is he trying? Was he trying to prove something? That was that his first year with no? No, No, he'd been there for too late. I think it was.

I want to say I think it was his last year. He probably was well because the case point that they were recorded to the coach that replaced him, he's done pretty well. And yes he had, Yes he was. And by the way, Eric Jeferson is still coming to the games. But if you would call, he's still gaining yards on the Cowboys. Stop stop. I still have nightmares. Okay, but I think I had the year wrong. I said it was like twenty seventeen. That's why I said it was

Jeff Fisher's Rams. Well, he ended up going off on Eric as well. He said, Eric, should you know Eric was trying to criticize him or whatever, and he said Eric shouldn't be on the sidelines. He said, hey, can't get the ticket to the game, and he said, Eric doesn't belong on the sidelines. And next thing you know, Fish is gone and I think Eric is now in the front office. So amazing how that happened. Then, So anyway, the Cowboys are going to have two scrimmages m and

they're both gonna be away ones. Last year was a home one against the Rams. The other thing is is the UH. The NFL and the NFLPA made a change to UH injured reserve. For the last two years because of COVID, guys only had to spend three weeks on IR and then they were eligible to come back UH.

This year, it's gonna be four weeks and you're only eligible to bring back eight guys off of IR, and you could bring back the same guy as many as two times, but he both times count against your said again, okay, so you there's a limit now on how many guys

can return from injury reserve. Interesting, So, and that was it was too previous to COVID, right, and you had to designate them when you put them on IR that they are IR return And during COVID it was unlimited, unlimited, they set out three games, but they can come back after three games exactly. Now it's limited to eight and but you have to miss four weeks, which was you can make eight moves. Eight moves, okay, our return moves

and four weeks is what it was when you were playing. Uh. And then the team started taking advantage of that, coming up with phony injuries to preserve a guy's rights and figuring, okay, in four weeks, somebody else is going to get hurt and I could bring this guy back, right, And they actually started bringing the NFL would bring independent medical person to view practice to make sure guys on IR weren't practicing and make sure that they actually had an injury.

Because there was one year, I don't remember who it was, there was a quarterback. They wanted to keep his rights. And they were playing a preseason game against Denver and they basically told this quarterback, when you take this snap, we want you to roll out towards our sideline because our cameras are going to be up there on that side of the field, and grab your hamstring as you He forgot to grab his hamstring. And I'm going Okay, if he can't remember that, plays aren't gonna work. Plays

aren't going to wow. Okay, now you're talking about IR. Like during the season, a player gets hurt and goes on IR. And now it is four games four weeks, not games four weeks from the from the moment you

put them on. Okay, what about PUP? And and this this relates to Michael Gallup because in the past, if you went on PUP prior to the season starting, right you, it was six weeks six weeks, and so Michael Gallup would have to miss six if coming up an ACL, if you put him on PUP, he would be it would be he would miss six weeks to start the season. What is it now? It didn't say PUP. It said I'm non football injury. All right, here's five. Here's here's

what I've got. I just I'm I'm just seeing a memo that's been released to the clubs or whatever sent to the clubs players who are placed on reserve physically unable to perform or reserve non football In mine didn't say or at or after the roster production to eighty players, right, So that is back in preseason because I can't remember what the date is, but I'm not that's not the last it's not the fifty three man but so it's prior to the fifty three man roster, which is equivalent

to what the what has been done in the past as far as PUP goes will continue to count again. Such players may begin a twenty one day practice period or be activated after four regular season games. So not so it's reduced. So in the case of Michael Gallup, the new PUP rules are that he doesn't have to sit out six games and be active on the seventh game.

He can be ready on the fifth game of the season, which is the Cowboys opened against Tampa Bay and Cincinnati, then at the Giants Washington, and then October ninth at the Super Bowl champion Los Angeles Rams. But if Michael Gallup is placed on pup and he will be four

and I can guarantee you he will be right. But you also have that twenty one day window to decide if you want him to start practicing, and then once he starts, it could extend eight weeks into the season and you start that twenty one day win can actually extend I just threw that out seven. You could extend it nine weeks. So what I'm saying is the earliest if they put Gallop on pup, the earliest he will be able to play in a game is week five at the ramp, right, And you wouldn't do that because

you can't practice when you're on pup. So chances are if you're coming off a torn acl and you're out the first four weeks, you can't practice, right, you can't practice in training camp, So he's not going to practice three times and go play a game. So you have twenty one days to decide when he's going to start practicing, and then after that you get another two weeks to practice before you got to say, Okay, we're either putting him on the rawster or he stays on for the

rest of the year. I want to hear that Lad so you can stretch it out to like ten weeks almost before you have to make a serious decision. Uh. The other change they made, and it was, uh, sixteen players on the practice squad during COVID, it's going to be fourteen. And now you can elevate a practice a person from the practice squad a maximum of three times. Prior to that, it was only twice, so you can move them without having to go back through free agency

or waivers to get back on the practice squad. So that's another one. And now they've even come up with ramp time periods during training camp, those first three or four days where you're not allowed to put pads on and you were supposed to only get two hours on the field. Now they've reduced that to ninety minutes on day two, one hundred and five minutes on day three, and two hours the final two days. Oh man, that's crazy. So let's practice now, huh yes, wow, this must be tough,

and then you can put the pads on. Yes, that's so cool. And practice squad same sixteen fourteen? Oh no, what would I say? Sixteen? It was fourteen before COVID now and then it was sixteen and they're going to keep it at six and you can and a maximum of six veteran players can be on the practice squad. That's the key on there, where you can actually have veteran players on the practice squad. Of course, they're subject to being picked off by another team, right, just like

any practice player is. So yeah, I'm sure if you're putting a veteran there and someone comes to try to poach them, it's like, okay, you can go, but we can pay you the minimum for three weeks. It's so much better having the four week ir yes, rather than the old I mean for years it was just you could only go one guy on right, Then it was two, and then it was two. But before that it was made. It was the season. And I understand the stashing part of it whatever, but there it made no as much

money as invested in these players. And a guy gets hurt week one could come back ten weeks later. You got multiple guys that are in that category. It didn't make any sense, you know, as long as the season is, especially now. So the other point I was going to make also the Raiders working out Colin Kaepernick, ah saw it. Yeah, So here's what's changed Prior to this. I'd never heard him say he was willing to be the backup quarterback right now, or make the backup quarterback now. And that's

my next question. Now he's saying, I'm willing to be the backup quarterback. Do you want to make backup quarterback pay or do you think you're coming back and making nine million dollars a year. Well, that's a big difference between two thousand and seventeen and twenty twenty one, twenty twenty two. Right, you know, things change, I mean everything changed for him, you know, no, you know, no luck, no, no, look, you know, no opportunity. Yeah, you're gonna change. That's just

the way. That's the way it is. I mean, if you want to stick to the same script, then you probably wouldn't get that workout. And what the Raiders have They've got Jared Stidham as a backup quarterback. Nick Mullins is another guy that they signed. Whatever they've got, there's an opportunity there. Marcus Mariota, of course, was there last year and now he's Atlanta, and so there is an opportunity.

The question on Kaepernick is you can structure a deal for him that because he hasn't played in the league in so long. He wasn't in the league last year, and so you can structure a deal that take it has an incentive latent contract where he could have a base.

The question is for him, is he willing to play if he doesn't get in a game at a veteran minimum base of whatever it might be, whatever they agree to one to two million dollars, and then he has based on number of games he plays, he could get paid a million dollars a game, whatever they can handle or whatever they negotiate. Is he willing to do that kind of a deal? Start of what the Cowboys did with Andy Dalton basically gave him a you know, three million dollars deal to be the backup, but then it

was so much poorer game. How long he was How long was he out? How long was Andy ad No, he just came when he got released by a Cincinnati The Cowboys signed right now. This guy hasn't taken a snap in the NFL since was a twenty sixteen I'm not sure, he said, twenty sixteen. Yeah, twenty sixteen. That's the last time you played. So that's a long time for the quarterback not to see the field. Right, and that's why the song changed. That's a long time he hadn't.

He's a different I mean we're different from twenty sixteen to now. You know, it's something different about us, and especially if you used to be a professional quarterback. Yeah, everything changes quickly, and then that's for a long time. This guy waited. This is six years now because I remember everybody saying, well, this guy's better than backup quarterback.

This team's got or that, or the Cowboys have right, and it's like, but does he want to be the backup or does he want to go someplace and actually compete for the starting job, which when you've been out there, actually I don't think it really would have mattered. I think the stance that he took that pretty much that sealed his fate. So it didn't matter what he said.

It was going to always be something well, oh well this is what I heard, and then this is what I heard, so you know, when it comes down to it, all those you know, trivialities, it didn't and the team had to be strong enough to say, Okay, we're going to accept the backlash because exactly there's gonna be a backs it is right, yes, it and all of a sudden,

that'll be center stage. Do you want to? And now all of a sudden things once again, not only are we different, America's a little bit different from twenty sixteen, right you see. So that's the main thing as well. Hey, I got something for you guys. I had a little reunion. I know, we gotta go in a little bit, a little bit union reunion. Yeah, with said Cliff Harris, got DDE, Lewis, Leboy, Jordan uh and Charlie Waters. We were all at the Stallings Awards, all right, Yeah, it was it was hell

of the Dallas Country Club. I was out there the Stallings Awards. Stallings Award. Yeah, let me get some's old gene with me and Chuck, Me and Charlie Waters. That was nicely moving along. Both are moving pretty slow slow. Yeah, but Jean's gotta got a cane. Chie doesn't. That's the only difference right there. So Charlie's close to happen, Yes he is. That said, that's the only difference. But I saw he and Cliff and we all sat together, our wives talked to each other man and what was the award?

The award went to the award went too. I'm gonna see if you recognize Shut up. Sorry, I wasna like tease you with this, and can't you recognize that guy? Well, I guess you can. Then that's I took a better picture with him myself. And and that was pretty cool because he and Sean Springs were teammates. So we talked about about Ron, talked about about the kidney donations and things of that nature. So who was teammates with run Fickle Sean with Sean Springs son, Ron Springs Son Sean Springs.

That went right, Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's okay, that's okay, Well, that's cool. I didn't realize they had one of those. Yeah, you weren't invited. That's why I should have been. The rest of the world would have known about it, right, So that was good stuff. Man. We had just past Tuesday. You know what it was. Gene has not changed, not one bit. It was it was four or five years ago.

We did a legend show on him and we went out to his place in Paris and um, so he it's got a big sprint, yes, and there's fences up and he was talking about and I said, so who rides out there and repairs those fencers? Why do you mean I go, he goes get on my horse at our ride out there, So he had to be in his eighties. See that reminds me of when Wade Phillips got the job here and we went to Wade's. We went to bum Phillip's ranch down south of San Antonio.

I believe Goliad Texas. Yeah, and I mean you there is no more hospitable There was no more hospitable person in the world than Bum and his wife. I mean they offered to even put us up for the night. We were just going on a day trip down there to do a story on him whatever. When we got there, Bum Phillips was out on his horse out I mean he would I'm looking up now how old he would have been then, but he was probably in his eighties. And I'd be remiss if I didn't mention Ruth Anne

as well. Jean's wife still looks. She was great when we did the interview. If there was any lapses in memory, she piped right right. And Bum was born in nineteen twenty three, and so he would have been eighty four years old then. Now look up stallings and and so when we finished, and we must have spent two hours in his house. I think Chris was Chris was with us. I think I don't think so, Oh, you weren't, okay. Jean is eighty seven. Eighty seven turned eighty seven in March,

so this would have been at least eighty okay. And we got done with the whole thing and giving us directions on you know, how to get out of here or whatever, and he goes, well, wait, let's let's go to lunch. And he took to the place that he goes to lunch probably every day, right, And we had lunch with him, and I'm sun just some some company and yeah, some visitors and show them off to the to the old school people in the neighborhood, you know.

And you go into guys' houses like that. It's almost like going into museum because they've got all this memorabilia, right, and all this stuff from Alabama. They put up only the best and most impressive things. Of course. It's like I gotta say, it's like when we and now Chris went to this one, we did Walt Garrison, yeah, in his place, and uh, it was like going in the museum. He's got cowboys stuff, and he's got cow cowboys stuff and real cowboys stuff, stuff that he's whittled. We went

into that. I've got like three or four of those. He keeps every time I'd see him, he give me one. Right, I've got all this mean works of art. That's right. Yeah, it's by the way. I had. I spoke for like to minutes just talking to Jane that was, and he couldn't understand the word I say it, so I was in the wrong ear, so I had to repeat myself all over. Garrison's front door was impressive in itself. The

whole house was his front door is is um. It's all his friends's brands, like you know, like they're they're they're farm brands, Iron Bank brand. So it's all pressed into his door. So it's all these brands on his It was a log house. They build remotely, take it apart and then bring it and restructure it. Wow. And you know how he got that. You know how he got that house. He wasn't from Mike making money. If it was from Skull Skull Skull, the skull commercials he made,

he made more money. He said, Oh, I'm sure he

was American Tobacco. Then the American tobacco or whatever. It was he hit and he told the story, and I know, we gotta go about when they were at training camp in Thousand Oaks, right, and they they needed some extras to ride a horse for some John Wayne movie, right, And he said at one point they came, they were close, and they came ride into training camp in Thousand Oaks on their horses, and uh, he had a rifle that John Wayne gave him, right, and it was like a

real not a replica. It was a real deal. And he's got it in you know, this case and everything. He had saddles on these wooden horses and it was amazing, just absolutely amazing. And he was he's a one, one of a kind. I'm sorry, that's all right. That's good stuff, all right. So that does it for week one of OTA's no telling what Mickey will have on his legal pad after he observes another practice next week. Here on

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