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waiting for. Yes, this is NFL's schedule release day and we're gonna preview that over the course of the next hour. And there's so much more to get to as well. Mickey, how are you are doing? I'm doing fine, Bill, And it was good to see Everson there. Take a big last gulp of his coffee drink, sir, all right, Yes, yes, the drink of champions. The drink very good. And he is a champion. Everson Walls is a champion. That's exactly right. Are you sitting at the edge of your seat just

waiting for that schedule to come out? Yes, I am, I am. I can't wait for it. U for a season that we probably won't even play, you know, come on, come on now, be optimistic. Can somebody give me a vaccine? We got vaccine, And hey, this is the most optimistic day of this whole We're entering week number nine of our nation being walked down. Basically, this is day number fifty seven. And by the way, speaking of the number fifty seven, I do believe that is the number of

interceptions that Everson Walls had National Football League career. But this is the most optimistic day because we are looking ahead to what will be a season this fall. So do you say, Okay, I'm gonna down the guys, I'm gonna do it down. I'm gonna be We're gonna We're gonna intercept. We're gonna intercept COVID nineteen. There you go, There you go. But we got a lot to talk about. The Cowboys have been making news left and right, and they just continue to sign these former first round draft

picks in free agency. Well, Bill, they uh the last one they just signed Cameron Irving. Uh. And I thought this was pretty good. And I'm gonna brag on myself because last Friday I talked about I am yes. So just no, no Everson, no one else will. No one else will brag on Mickey, so he's got to brag on him, that's right, no one else will. So on Friday and my column I talked about all the things the Cowboys accomplished, but they had three more things to accomplish.

One was signing a backup swing tackle. One was to find an inexpensive, experienced defensive van for the edge on the right side. And the other one with all these veteran quarterbacks out there floating around, why not sign one of those guys to an inexpensive contract as a backup. So what did they do? The next day? They signed Dalton Andy Dalton to be the backup quarterback, and then yesterday Cameron Irving to be the backup swing tackle or at least compete for it. So that one more step

to go, and they go to Daylowney next. Maybe if he wants to play in a one year prove it deal, I bet he doesn't. Yeah, you know, um, And usually it comes down to what his salary demands are. And that was the That was the beauty of this Andy Dalton deal, Mickey, when you look at what Dalton was willing to play for, you know, and when you look at his whole contract situation. UM, you know, I believe

he was due to make around seventeen million dollars. Obviously he was not going to make that this year U with with Cincinnati. Um, but I thought it was very prudent on his part to go to the Bengals and say, hey, you're gonna let go of me eventually, anyway, do it now? And uh. And it only took a couple of days before he had to deal with what is essentially his hometown team, the Cowboys, and he got some money up front,

which he was not. You know, depending on what happens with this season, he may not get any money if we played this out and we don't have a season the way his contract was structured before. So so Bill, Yeah, you're exactly right. And you know, the Cowboys were able to have another, you know, another player just fall in their lap. All the all the things kind of met right. Uh.

Dalton becomes the free agent they released him. He's willing to accept a backup role and at a backup role price you mentioned that got him for a good deal. I mean it's a one year, three million dollar deal. He gets a million dollars up front, two million dollars based salary and incentives that he can make a heck of a lot more if he has to play. So to me, it's an insurance policy for a guy that has started one hundred and thirty three games in his

career in the National Football League. And this is kind of their John Kitten, a Kyle Orton, Mark Sanchez type deal where you get a guy that has experienced, you know, he has Dalton has as many Pro Bowl appearances as Cooper Rush had NFL career attempts three each. Right, So to me, to get this guy at and here's the other thing that falls in their lap, he's out a

house here in Dallas. So in this and he said yesterday in his conference call that you know, the COVID nineteen thing didn't have anything to do with it, but it certainly makes it easier to play for a team. And you don't have to move somewhere else, You don't have to move your family because in the offseason they

live here in Dallas. And was willing to pay for play for like I said, three million dollars plus incentives, and he put a million dollars in the bank already with the signing bonus and as you said, or as Everson said, if they don't play the season, he still gets the signing bonus. I would imagine they're not going to cancel that out. So at least he made some money. And he was unemployed. Hey, it's May first. I don't have a job. I don't know if I'm going to

play any games. And he took care of all that stuff by signing with the Cowboys. Yeah. I think it was very smart. Okay, and every Everson, I am being told by our producer Chris Bean that you need to reboot your app in case you aren't hearing Chris. And so until I get word that Everson is back with us, Mickey, let's let's talk about this. You know, Dalton, I think it's easy for Andy to go to his wife and say, hey, this is the way this lays out. We don't know

whether we're going to have a season or not. Right now, we've got no money coming in. I take this deal with our hometown team, and we got our bills paid and then some up front right now. Well, Bill, and you know the other thing he probably looked at is he saw how other quarterbacks have kind of done a similar thing and rebooted their careers. Think about you know what Teddy Bridgewater did in New Orleans. He gets a job in Carolina. Foles kind of rebooted his career. Didn't

work out in Jacksonville, but he's in Chicago. You get Jamis Winston probably looked around and said, huh, musical chairs are spinning and I might not have a seat. I'll go take this one year deal with the Saints, and maybe the same thing could happened. And look what happened to Ryan Tannehill. He kind of bet on himself going to Tennessee and then he ends up the starting quarterback.

So I'm sure Dalton looked at this thing and said, Okay, you know, I still think I'm a starting quarterback, but if I have to be a backup for a year, so be it. And like I said, and if he plays, he makes more money. If he plays fifty percent of the regular season snaps and the Cowboys go to the playoffs, he makes another million dollars. If he plays thirty five percent of the snaps and plays fifty percent of the snaps in the playoffs and they win a first round game,

he makes another five hundred thousand dollars. So again, he understands he's in a situation where he's the insurance policy. If they don't need him, okay, it makes three million. If they need him, he has an opportunity to make more if he's productive. I gotta say. I read a quote from him saying that he's working on the second half of his career. That made me a little nervous. Okay, I don't want him to work on the second half

of his career here. That means that Dak is not playing, so didn't I was not happy about those words at all. If he's gonna come here, I want him to be here for one year. If a Teddy Bridgewater thing happens for him, that means that Dak has gone down for one reason or another. So you know, I love my homeboard coming back home. I'm all about the Texas athlete. Me and Bill were all about that. But now I don't want Andy. I don't want Andy to touch the

field unless it's a blowout. I'm sorry, And you know what, And he understands by saying that. I think he understands that the market will be different next year because he got released so late, so teams have already drafted their quarterbacks. They've already signed all these other veterans, and he was late to the party because, as Bill said, Cincinnati kind of hung onto him until they finally said, well what was it, Bill, the last two days of April before

they released them sure day of April. And you can really relate it to Nick Foles at Jacksonville because early on in free agency, when obviously Chicago once wanted to have competition for Mitchell Trubisky, there's a lot of talk that maybe there'd be a trade where Dalton could go

from Cincinnati to Chicago. Well, they went with Nick Foles, and had Dalton been released at the beginning of free agency, he would have been right in the mix to get the same kind of contract that Foles got in Chicago, which is, I believe twenty million dollars guaranteed to reboot his career. You know, now, that's all up right there, million verses one meal, I'm sorry so to anyway. And the other part of this is it doesn't for us.

Right now, as we are in day number fifty seven of this lockdown, it seems like the days are going very slow. But really, when you look at the next six months or whatever, this calendar is going to go real fast in the NFL, and before you know it, Andy, we're going to be through this next season and Andy Dalton is going to be out there as a free agent and be able to play in the market. He I mean, the way that's one way he can look

at it is, Hey, he's back home. He gets to play with the with the Cowboys, even if he doesn't touch the field whatever. Then he's got six months to learn under Mike McCarthy and these other guys. How about the other thing with this where he rejoins now with a coaching staff going back to his college days, Wow, he played against it. He split Boise State when he was at TCU. Kellen Moore was a quarterback, beat him, I think in the point set of Bowl, lost to

him in the Fiesta Bowl. And then Scott Tolzine is also on this Cowboys coaching staff. He was the quarterback at Wisconsin when TCU played Wisconsin in the Rose Bowl and had they're perfect thirteen and oh seasons. That's pretty interesting. No, absolutely, And and and the thing Everson is, you know, and I've always said this about guys that are backup quarterbacks. The best thing for a backup quarterback is to never have to play, because then you don't find out why

they're a backup quarterback. Right. But in his case, he's only thirty two, he's played nine years, and he's his numbers are pretty darn good if you take out this past season when Cincinnati obviously was just horrible and it wasn't just a quarterback play. But we're talking about a guy that the first five years of his career he led the Bengals. Then, let me repeat that, the Bengals to five Bengals went to five straight playoffs and he

started as a rookie. Now the fifth year he led them. Unfortunately, you know, that might have been a big season for Cincinnati. They won the first seven games. They were sitting there at ten and two going into Game thirteen, and in the first quarter he broke his thumb and AJ McCarron had to take over for the Bengals. They lost that game. They ended up going two and two over the final four and Dalton didn't play anymore and in the playoffs.

In the playoff game the first round, McCarron had to start and they got beat by Pittsburgh eighteen sixteen, but had Dalton been able to finish that season, who knows where Cincinnati might have gone. So he's been pretty good. He's the second best quarterback in the history of the Cincinnati Bengals, and the only one that was better was Ken Anderson. And Ken Anderson played sixteen season, but he won more games, didn't Boomer. He threw WHOA, that's saying a lot. That is a lot say as many games

as Boomer did. Boomer pat some more game than he did. Interesting, and speaking of AJ, he didn't have a j Green this past season, and we've seen around here what it's like for a quarterback when you don't have a number one receiver. Yeah, I mean, I have to say I had no idea that he was only thirty two years old. I guess you're starting as a rookie. Just tend to think that the players older than what they really are at that point because they started off so early in

their careers. At thirty two years old. He could really offer a lot of advice to that. I mean, let's be real. Kellen is a great guy, but it's always good to have somebody there that's had more experience than you doing certain situations and you can hopefully lean on that guy. I don't know how much Dat was leaning on Tony Romo when Dak took over for Romo his first year starting, but hopefully that kind of helped Dak's

progression early on because he had a great first season. Maybe, you know, maybe Andy Dalton can do that for Dak this year to where when you get those those those away games where he doesn't have a good game going against one of the better defenses. We know how badly he was in regards to play against really good defenses. So maybe a guy like Dalton can help him through some bad stretches, because let's let's face it, guy, he's gonna have some bad stretches like any quarterback, you know.

And and along those lines, listening to Gary Patterson, his own coach at TCU, talk about him, you know, Andy Dalton is the type player that's he's a team guy. He's gonna do what he can to help Dak Prescott. He understands what his role is right now. And Dak talks a lot about the effect that Mark Sinzez had on him early in his career here in Dallas when

he was the backup quarterback here. I think it's important, even for Dak now going into his fifth year, to have a guy as they've build a relationship here, to have a guy that he trusts, who can point out some things on the sideline as the game's going along, even where he might not have the same kind of access to coaches in those situations. That's right, that's good to have a I mean, think about it. Romo had Brad Johnson in his ear as a young starting quarterback.

Then he had John Kittner Kyle Orton, so he for several of those first seven eight years in the league he had a veteran cornerback behind him, and then these past couple of years, Dak was kind of the guy. So yeah, I think if he doesn't play, just having his voice there to go along with Mike McCarthy and Kellen Moore and Tolsine and nuss Meyer, that's just the plus I think. And again, it only cost them nine hundred thousand dollars more against the cap than it would

have if they kept Cooper Rush. Cooper Rush has restricted free agency contract was two point one million, uh and this guy's playing for three So how many TCU players as they give us, guys, what's that we have this year all of a sudden, what's going on? Three for sure? And I know too. You got the two yeah, the agents, Yeah, the two rookie free agents Siwo or Alana Lua you got it baby and Darius Jed Anderson. A lot of people are thinking that either one of those guys, you

have a real shot of making this team. Cowboys haven't opening as a third running back on this team. And Alana Lua, he's gonna be challenging. Jamazlawali is at fullback type, although he's not a he didn't play fullback in college, but you look at his dimensions and he could fill that role. Be sort of an h back caught like sixty passes out of the backfield at TCU. I really like the way he runs the ball between the tackles. Two and so it's gonna be interesting. There's just talk

with Will McClay last week about him. There's just you know, there's not very many roster spots for especially for a fullback type, and so there's this competition there and uh, if he but I do believe that if he doesn't make the team, that he could be a prime candidate for the practice squad. Uh. And then uh, you know. The other guy of the undrafted guys that will mention to me that he liked a lot was the South

Carolina running back Rico Dowdle or Dowdale. I'm not sure how you pronounce his name, but we're going to learn how to pronounce it pretty quickly because there will be a season, and Everson, there will be a preseason. In fact, oh wad on, I don't know when's this preseason schedule coming out, So Bill to just to go on what you just said about U about the running back, I mean, they have room for a third running back if they want on the fifty five man roster. Yeah they need one, Yeah,

they need need one. And from a fullback standpoint, I didn't know much about this dude until I saw his highlights and the way he runs. I can tell he's got the mindset to be a fullback right because he does run pretty hard between the tackles and listening to an interview with him, he sounds like he's a very willing blocker and if he can catch the ball, who knows, he just might challenge Olawally for that fullback spot. Keep an eye this guy, and he's a smart guy too,

graduated in three and a half years from TC. That's what I'm talking about. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I talk about players like that. Guys. You have to get him an open field. If he's going to play that h back, you're getting the ball at the right time. He's gonna look for somebody to run over in the secondary. That might be a nice transition to use him in specialty situations, goal line, short yardage and be able to open up the game and give you some options versus run and pat.

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that you find all the Cowboys. Great programming, Bill Jones, Mickey Spagnola, Everson Walls. We talked a lot about Andy Dalton in the first segment. Let's talk cam irving as Mickey, the Cowboys replace one cam with another cam, and that you were never very high on cam fleming. What have you researched on cam irving? Yeah, I was gonna say, hopefully this cam is better than the previous camp, although you know, the Giants signed them for four million dollars.

I don't know how much of that is incentive stuff, but uh, you know, at least this guy has played games in the league, has started He started forty two games between Cleveland, where he was a first round draft choice, and then he got traded to Kansas City. He started twenty five games for the Chiefs. And the other thing about him is he's played all three spots on the offensive line in the NFL. He's played he's played guard,

he's played center, he's played tackle. And you know, in twenty eighteen he started thirteen or fourteen games for Kansas City. So again and in his career twenty eight hundred snaps. So I like the fact that, you know, even though Kansas City declined picking up his fifth year option, he started those games at guard. So maybe what if he had a backup swing tackle who was also could service your backup two. That's a pretty good deal there. So I can't say I've watched him play. You know, let's

let's let's keep giving it. Let's keep giving it up, guys, Let's keep giving it up With Will McClay man. This guy's out there hustling. I think this, this this pandemic is the best thing that happened to him. And I'm hoping I'm saying that. I'm saying that jokingly, but he is on top of it. I mean, you've got guys out there that he's picking up, and these are quality individuals.

I don't know about the Album Smith move, that was something that baffled me a little bit, but when you look at the other moves he's made from the draft on down to these free agents, and not just the undrafted free agents, but those free agents, those veteran free agents out out there. To me, I think this is a big time quality move. You can get back, you can get security in almost every position on the offensive line. Well. And it was a necessary move for this team too.

I mean they they had to have a veteran guy who's a swing tack. Well, yeah, Brandon Knight as a rookie started one game at right tackle last year, but they had to And there's been talk about, Okay, you could have Connor Williams go out and play tackle or whatever and start training him out there, but because he played left tackle at Texas, but they needed a guy with experience in this league to back up both tackle spots and Mickey. When you look at Cam Irving last year,

he actually started eight games at left tackle. Last year, Eric Fisher went down on the fifth play of the second game of the season and Irving came in and filled that void for half a season before Eric Fisher got back and he and Eric Fisher was able to play the last half of the season and then on through the Super Bowl for Kansas City. So if you can have somebody like that and they had a pretty good season in Kansas yeah right, yeah, yeah, and again and it's a it's another one of those one year

kind of proven deals. You know, if you get the plane, maybe you get an opportunity to yourself if you don't get to play. It's a one year deal. I'm assuming

it's very inexpensive. And that's the sort of thing I think they need to look for at the defensive end spot too now, because there's still a couple veteran guys out there that you would recognize their names, and if you can get them on kind of a one year proven deal as insurance against Smith, Alden Smith or Randy Gregory not being reinstated, you can't just assume that that's

going to happen. You can't just assume that Tyrone Crawford comes back from two hip surgeries and he's the same Tyrone Crawford, And if he is, you still want a better pass rusher over there for nickel downs at least, so Crawford could hold it down against the run, for sure, But you just need that guy coming off the edge. And the only other guys you had out there are Dorn's Armstrong and Jalen Jelks, and so you needed somebody

and you still need it. So I would imagine that's that's the next move if if they can find somebody to do what Dalton did and what Irving has done. I don't know. I want to go back a little bit to one of the unsigned h free agents. What about this guy from I think it's James Madison Rondelle Carter. Yeah, well you don't know about him SPACs. He look look

really good. Yeah, I heard good things about him, and I heard they were really excited to get him, uh signed, and some of the highlights I've seen, I don't sure looks like a possibility, you know. And I didn't mention an eye uh. The fifth round draft choice, and you know this guy, here's another guy, and I talked about

all these things that just kind of happened for the Cowboys. Well, this guy was one of the top collegiate defensive ends and one of the best ever at the University of Utah, and there he is in the in the fifth round for him. So again, they just keep having these person lucky deals just landed their laps and you know that might be another one. We'll see, you know. And the other thing as far as the defensive end spot goes with these free agents, it's interesting because they did it

with Dalton, giving him some money upfront. With the environment that we're in right now. I haven't seen the details on cam Irving, but there probably was bonus money paid

in advance. Some of these guys, these defensive ends that you're talking about, the veteran guys that are out there in free agency right now, who in other years might wait until you get closer to the season at this point and you know you might have a need in training camp, someone blows out a knee or whatever, and you'll wait till the end of training camp to sign with a team, thinking because you don't have offers right now.

But a team like the Cowboys who have some money to spend, you know, who have an owner willing to spend some upfront money. There one these free agents. You can get a jump on some of these other teams by going ahead and giving them some upfront money right now and where they might sign with you, rather than waiting because they aren't sure whether there's going to be a season or not. Kind of the same mindset that

maybe Dalton and Irvingham. Yeah, I signed for a couple hundred thousand dollars and you could you could send your check from the government back saying I don't need that. Hey, I'm still waiting on my check. I need more people to send them back. But you know, I remember when I left the Cowboys, Jimmy and I. Of course we didn't get along, and that that was all very publicized. But one thing that I was always appreciative of Jimmy,

and I'm sure he was appreciative as well. He was thinking, you need to get the hell, get the hell out of here right now. I want you going immediately. I want you out of my head. And that was the same way I was thinking, I want to go ahead and get away from this situation so that I can embed myself quickly into another organization's plans for the off season. I did not want until I didn't want to wait until the off season was almost over before I decided

to sign. I wanted to make sure I got out there, I got away from where I was, and really start a good relationship early on with the New York Giants at the time. So to me, I did not want to wait, and I wasn't comfortable. I would not have been comfortable with waiting later on in the off season.

You know, if you think about it, the same thing that happened to Dalton sort of happened to Troy Aikman in two thousand and one because he had a if I remember correctly, a seven million dollar roster bonus coming at some point in March, and you know, Jerry he didn't want to have or maybe it was March, maybe it was later on, and Jerry was hoping to release him after June one that way they could spread out the dead money from his signing bonus, and Troy wanted

to get released right away because he thought he had an opportunity for another job, specifically North Turner. I think was the offensive coordinator in San Diego, and he was looking at hire a backup quarterback. I can get that job, and he didn't get released. And by time they finally came together and got released, they had the Chargers had signed Doug Flutie and that job was gone. And then I think it was like a month later he decided to retire. But he had the same idea that Everson

was talking about. Let me get out there quick now and then find me a new spot before all the spots are taken. That's right, Hey, Everson mentioned Jimmy Johnson. Of course, Jimmy Johnson replaced Tom Landry as head coach of the Cowboys. He also replaced Don Shula's head coach of the Miami Dolphins, and of course Don Shula passed away this week at the age of ninety. Ever since, you got some memories of Don Shula, Yeah, I do. I just remember balls just flying over my head. There

was a lot of them. I think both receivers took a chunk out of my butt during that ball game. Duri Ol' Harris. I couldn't remember the other guy's name, the Italian guy wide receiver. He was heck of a player. Both of those guys. Man. I started off early with a couple of picks and at the end of the game I had to finally get one. And that was one of the more exciting games I think the Cowboys have ever been in with the Miami Dolphins. And that's

including what was that bill super Bowl eleven. That was that Super Bowl twelve when the Cowboys and the Dolphins played. Well, there had been earlier. There was in the seventy one season and the Cowboy Who's beat the Dolphins twenty four to three in the Super Bowl? Yeah? Yeah, and the Dolphins. Then after that the Dolphins ended up going seventeen and old.

But that next year, if I'm not mistaken, so you know, back then you had the two great coaches going at it, and somehow I became the focus of this dog one bone game because they kept they just kept coming at me and coming at me. And that's one thing about Shula. Shola is a guy that will attack your weakness no matter what. I don't care how many times he's gonna come at you, He's gonna keep coming at you until you stop him. I stopped him early on in the game.

They kept coming at me. We were going back and forth. Tony dors said was bawling. Our wide receivers were doing a good job. And at the end of the game, Ron Springs had put us ahead with an amazing touchdown catch. Afterwards, they drove right back down over my head once again, drove right back down with a couple of big plays, and they were in field goal range. Facts. If you recall, I thought von Shalman, I thought he. I thought they were in field goal range before they decided to go

back to the whale one too many times. And he came at me. Uh, if I'm not mistaken, d d Lewis or Bob Bruni made him throw the quick slant pass a little high, and that's all the break that I needed and came right into my arms and ended up sealing the ball game. Well, but that's yeah. Emerson ended up intercepting the ball at the six yard line. They and the Cowboys ended up winning twenty eight twenty seven. But yeah, all was needed to kick a field. Yeah,

he got greedy. You know what he was worried about is they couldn't stop Danny White throwing to Tony Hill and Drew Pearson. Uh. And the amazing thing was, is you know, we always talked about the comebacks that Roger produced. With five minutes to go in the game, the Cowboys fell behind twenty seven fourteen yep, and they came down and they scored to make it twenty seven twenty one. And then Dennis Thurman intercepted a pass and in the next play White throws the touchdown to Springs. They stopped

the Dolphins. The Cowboys get the ball back and they didn't do anything, and here they came again, and they had to get the interception to be able to preserve. The Cowboys ended up intercepting Woodley five times, five times. If anybody wants to be entertained, just go to YouTube and call up nineteen eighty one Cowboys Dolphins, and I'd guarantee you it was awfully entertaining. And Bill, it reminded me of how fast that Tony Doorset was. Boy, he would hit the hole and just glide through there. I

think may have been his best overall years. Nineteen eighty one was a big year for Tony Dorset. So was that Italian wide receiver Jimmy Cefalo. Jimmy Cephalo, thank you, thank you, Jimmy Cefalo. That quick Italian boy, That quick Italian was out there kicking my butt there. We ended up meeting each other a little bit later on, after we retired. We talked about that game. I tell you one more thing about shooting. You know, he loved his kids.

Dave Shoela came here, if he recalled, he was our offensive coordinator rights Fags and in nineteen eighty nine, and god did he make it two years. He was just that horrible. I'm sorry. Yes, Lawrence Taylor said that Shoela's offense was so basic that he thought it was a trick. You remember that interview after Giants game. He said it was so simple, he thought it was a trick. So I mentioned that on the Randy Galloway Show. And so

I think Shula told Dave. Shula told his dad, coach Don, that Everson is down here talking about me bad on the radio. And so schulad daddy Shula goes to Gary Myers Spags. He goes to Gary Myers and goes, hey, what's going on with this Emmerson guy? Why is he talking about my son so bad? That's about two That's about two memories of Don Shula. Man. He never wanted to say my name, right, he never went to what reminded me, you know, ninety years old, he had the

most wins in National Football League. Amazing, amazing the fact that you know, let's let's remember they started off with the Baltimore Colts. Yes, and then after they lost to the Jets in that Super Bowl, the next year, he got traded to Miami. They gave up a first round pick for Don Shula. I had forgotten all about them

that tried. I do remember him being with the coach he actually coached with them as well, right, yes, yes, both, yes, absolutely and in fact, all right, he was hired as and we need to go to break after this, but he was hired in nineteen sixty three at age thirty three as head coach of the Baltimore Colts. In thirty three years as a head coach in the National Football League, Don Shula had two losing seasons, two losing. Some mazing

in thirty three years. So some great memories there. And whenever you mentioned David Shula, always think of Iowa State in Barry Switzer letby, we'll tell that story when we shots here in just a moment. Since eighteen sixty five, Stetson hats are American maid with pride right here in Texas, and Stetson is proud to be on the field with America's team. Want to show your Texas and Team pride two, You can purchasing your own Stepson. You can look just like how the flag guys do on field at every

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That's what I have? Yea, I have a hide. You know, I'm from the hood, Bill, I have mutts. We don't really name them. We don't really know what they are. We just get them, you know, they're just dogs. What's his name? Morley after Bob? Okay, I've got two beagles and they're about twelve years old. Now, Bo and Romo. See, and you can tell you're not from the hood because you know what they are. They're Beagles. I haven't no idea,

that's right. Yeah, all right, Mickey, would you like to tell the story about Dave Shula and Iowa State as I could remember it, The Cowboys were getting ready to play Cincinnati where Dave Shuel, I mean where Dave Shula was the head coach, right, that's nineteen ninety four, Yeah, ninety four. Switzer's the head coach of the Cowboys, and he said something to the effect of, well, yeah, you know what's did he say? It was like, it's it's

kind of like we're going to play Iowa State. Yeah, I think the Bengals were maybe winless, right, uh Dan, it's about sixth week of the season something like that. I don't remember where it was in the season. And in this press conference that week, Switzer said, ah, you know this is and he didn't he really didn't mean anything bad by you know Switzer and whatever enters his enters his break to explain this before you. We just have to remember Switzer didn't have a filter, okay, right, right?

Uh So, anyway, uh, I think of some similarities with someone else, but I won't go out together, so Switzer's said, So they say, yeah, you know this is you know we we'd have these kind of games when I was at OU. You know, you play Ioways State and you got to get them ready to play. And uh so the postgame handshake after the Cowboys barely squeaked out of victory in Cincinnati. You'll call what Dave Shula said that you call that handshake there, don't. I don't think it

was a headshake. It was kind of my head slap right right, and he said something like take how's that Frialwa State or something. They well, no, he said, you can take that Ioways State and yeah, right, yeah, stick it somewhere. So wait, wait, so no, the Cowboys won the game. No, the Cowboys. So he's bragging about almost because they no, No, no, he was he was close. The Cowboys had to come from behind to win. Yeah, but you're still lost. You still know. But he didn't

say it like Nicky said. He said it like, take that Ioways State and stick it somewhere. Yeah they beat him twenty twenty three, twenty all right, right, and I'm guessing it was the last second, last minute field goal. Well, I'm just I'm just glad they didn't talk about, you know, the maturation of of of cows and bulls and all that kind of stuff, because you know, uh, he had a little he had a little uh quote about a

young man not really maturing. Yes, yes, yes, something about something happening, something happened, something not something not descending yet, something it hadn't descended yet, ain't between him and parcels. The PC didn't enter their d And I have to say it was great, by the way, can I can I say this? You know you're looking at TCU, who had a great draft day draft couple of days twenty twenty. Yeah, and uh, just great athletes obviously some of the first

rounders and really notable drafts and notable teams. If you have all those draft picks. What the hell happened to you a season? Well, the quarterbacks. It goes to show that quarterback position is very important, whether it's at the NFL level, the college level, high school level, you name it. And they were they were not good at the quarterback position. They needed a backup obviously, right they went They went

five and seven, They went five and seven. Well, they did struggle offensively, so dep uh and that that really hurt him. And that's the thing. J Jalen Rager, who went to the Eagles first round draft pick, one of those guys you're talking about, and that may be one of the reasons the Eagles are so excited for Rager is that he didn't have much at quarterback at TCU, especially as last year there, and he still, you know,

he has that potential. The other guy, another guy you're talking about, Jeff Gladney cornerback who was elate first and then Ross Blacklock a defensive tackle to TCU. Yeah, they they killed it come draft day, but I was wondering the same thing. How'd they go five and seven? And the coach is up there bragging like, hey, guys, that got a lot of guys out there, you know that just let you know the talent we have here at TCU.

But yet with five and seven, so when you have a defense that's still was in good shape, I really thought they could have done a lot better than five and seven in the Big twelve. All right, Mickey, the draft, I mean, the schedule comes out tonight and in fact, on Dallas Cowboys dot Com you're gonna get a little sneak peek of it starting at six thirty tonight, gonna get a jump start on the NFL network at seven o'clock.

So what intrigues you about this schedule? We can run down outside of the NFC East, The Cowboys home games this year will be against Pittsburgh, Cleveland, San Francisco, Arizona, and Atlanta. Road games at Baltimore, Cincinnati, the Rams, Seattle, and Minnesota. So I'm wondering, if not not to mention cancelations or postponements, but would the COVID thing have any effect on the order of games, Like, do you do you want to play as many of your division games

right away? Do you want to push them back in case some of the early games get canceled. I'm just wondering if any of that has affected the order of some of these games early in the season. The one the thing that I worry about is the different governing states and how they will treat the season itself. You know, the even different cities like Los Angeles right now, they're

not trying to play any games. New Orleans, the Saints, you know, they're not trying to have any type of big gatherings because of the hot spot that they were in, especially last month. What I mean, how can they have one governing response because it seems like each city has different rules versus another city. I think that's what That's what worries me about going from state to state and city to city, those road games might be a little tricky in regards to what the regulations might be in

regards to COVID. Well, I think it's going to be ended up being based on what happens nationally, because as they've talked about even starting the possibility of opening up facilities here in the next couple of weeks, it has to be a national thing. It can't be state to state like well, Texas they don't care. Anybody can go out and do what they want. Let the Cowboys practice well in New Jersey, they're probably not letting the Giants and the Jets. So to make it equitable, it's got

to be league wide. And I think that if the season starts on time, it'll be league wide. The other thing I was wondering is you know, you do you want to you know push as many of the say the Chargers and Rams and forty nine ers home games back further and make them go on the road, so teams don't have to go into California, or the same thing, teams don't have to go into New Jersey that early in the season if it starts on time. That's what I was kind of wondering about. If any of that

affects the orders of the games. I think basically, once they're ready to go, they're going to be ready to go. But I do think that they might. They may look at it that way right now as they make out the schedule that if you push back, especially the New York you know, the two New York teams, you got the same thing going on throughout the northeast, really Massachusetts, Um, Buffalo, whatever, whether you might start them on the road. But I think to answer you the first part of your question,

do you play more division games early in anticipation? What if you had a disruption of the season. I think if you had, as a second wave of this, a disruption of the season, the chances of resuming the season are so remote that just look a look at what's going on with the NBA right now. I mean in the NHL where it ended March fifteenth, and here we are May seventh, and we have no idea whether they're going to be able. I mean, it doesn't look good

that they're going to be able to resume. They're although they're holding out hope. So I think I think if there's as eruption in the season in any way, it's going to be a delayed start of the season. More so than you know, something happens in November. I think something happens in November, it's probably crashed. You know that it's not going to resume at any point. And maybe that's the thing I think everyone needs to be ready for.

A could be a major shift in when we play you know, fotball, maybe you know, football maybe moved to the winter, you know, instead of the fall. You know, baseball could be moved further down the line, maybe with an abbreviated season, and then try to catch up again in twenty twenty one. I'm wide open. I'm sure that the NFL is as well in regards to what the

options might be. It would also be interesting to see, how, you know, if they do play games, so they're gonna put seventy and ninety thousand people in the stadium, they're gonna restrict it I'm gonna be mailed. I'm gonna be mailing in my car. Boy cut out. I'm just telling you right now, you ain't showing up. I've already gotten mine. I've already gotten mine. Yeah, it's already cut out. And I was thinking, you know, of us two covering games, you know you could just say, okay, cover it off

a TV. You ain't going to games, you ain't traveling to games. Um, yeah, that's I mean, there's a lot of stuff still up in the air. Again, they are talking about phasing in opening the facilities, letting a few people in the facilities. I would imagine it would be the coaches, and then at some point trying to get

the players in there. I'm sure we're the last ones in the door, right but I do think that they have a window there where ye are normally they As it stands right now, the Cowboys would be reporting around July twenty second or so, since they're in the Hall of Fame game on August seventh or whatever that date is. I mean, you push it back. Let's say training camp started in September, the regular season starts in October. Then you're pushing back to where the Super Bowl would be

played March or whenever. Uh, so they've got a window where you can you can slide it back a couple of months and still play through the winter months. And like you say, you could have, like I said, you could have, you can abbreviate the schedule, as you guys were saying earlier, let's just get the district the division games out of the way. And Uh, if I don't know, can they just go on the whim? Can they say, Okay, we're gonna start off divisional games and then schedule more

during the season stacks? Yeah, I don't know, going to be the interesting thing there? Yeah? Great, Bill. And since we're we're talking about the future, I ran across this on uh NFL dot com. Uh And I don't know how they projected this because it's too hard to figure out when it's real. But they ended up projecting the

compensatory picks for twenty twenty one draft. And the way they figured it out and the equation takes into so many factors on how many guys you lost, how many guys you played replaced, how much guys got paid, how much you paid your guys to bring them in. But whoever did it had the Cowboys coming up with the most compensatory picks for twenty twenty one. He was saying, or you know whoever figured it out the computer, that the Cowboys would get four compensatory picks, one each and

the third, fourth, fifth, and sixth round. So that would be a windfall, and it kind of makes the trade up for be it as giving up your fifth round pick next year insignificant if you get all those picks ahead of time. So the Cowboys had the most with four, There was a couple of teams with three, and then the majority of the teams were projected to get two. Speaking of the center ty Or bad As from Wisconsiner, they traded up to take the last pick of the

fourth round. Who do you think is going to be the starting center for this team when the season does start? Oh, I got a feeling it might be Tyler Biades. And if it's not in game one or two, I bet by halfway through the season he's the starting center. I just think they liked the idea of having Joe Looney the backup center guard and if this guy and look this guy played guard lad I mean center last year. He actually called line shifts. He actually had to call

out blitzes. You know, no one on the team right now before he was drafted had played center in the NFL last year, because when Looney play, or at least started, he started at guard the one game. So I like the fact that this guy had his hand on the ball last year and he's got he's got the pedigree as well. I mean, yeah, the school he comes from and been known for offensive lineman. To me, it's no brainer. If he doesn't come in and make an immediate impact,

I'd be extremely surprised. Fact, I agree that assuming he's healthy and he's head some injury issues the last couple of years and coming off a shoulder surgery this off season. But I think that they're looking at it that Looney and Biadas are the center, are at the center position, and if Biadas is ready, they go with him. If not, then Looney's ready. Looney starts to start the year and beyond, you know, and the only reason he wouldn't be ready, I think is because he doesn't have the off season

or an injury. And then you got Williams and McGovern battling it out for the left guard spot. And the other part of this, Mickey, when you talk about their needs, they really haven't replaced Xavier sue a Philo who left in free agency, is a veteran inside gay. Well that's going to have to be the loser of the begovering. William Battle would be the backup guard, I would think, right. But but but still, even from an inventory standpoint, you'd

like to have another veteran guy in there in the mix. Anyway. Now, maybe they're looking at this irving guy as that's what I'm gonna say, Yeah, that's why McClay is the man. That's why will McClay is the man. And if he'said about it, and go back to Everson's nineteen eighty nine season, the Cowboys drafted Mark Stepnowski in the third round. If I remember correctly, Rafferty started the season in about halfway

to two thirds through the season. Stepnowski took over because they knew he was going to be the future center. So ain't going anywhere in this one in fifteen season, right, so might as well get him in there and get him seasoned for nineteen ninety sore you thinking, what are you thinking, old Chand like Rafferty was like, I don't think he put up much of a fight. He's like,

thank you, Yeah, I have night. Well, you know, the safe thing happened to Ed two tall Joe is right when they wanted to start Tony Tilbert at the end of the season. Yea, and everybody, the media, I said, everybody, US media people made a big deal of it because it was gonna break Ed's consecutive start streak. Right, So with Jimmy figured out, oh okay, this all started, and I think it was either the second to the last

game of the season. They're the last game and and Jimmy said, okay, I'll start him, let him play two series and I'll get ever been there, right, And the funny thing was Ed was like, what's the big deal? He goes, I'm not coming back here next year. It doesn't matter. But it mattered to us media guys. All right, we I think we've lost ever since and Mickey, we're out of time on this no of mix shots. A reminder, sixth thirty, this evening, six thirty, this evening right here,

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