Mick Shots: Eclectic Thursday

degrees outside. It is not sixty eight degrees. Go stand out there. The windshield want you to go sixty nine. Wanted to see how quickly you come back here. Do they have parkas on out there? No, they do not. It's a matter of fact. Rob Phillips had a long sleeve shirt on. He went back to his desk and got his jacket guy, and he had to go all the way back upstairs to get it too. Is it is this like ox and hard weather? Back to ox and RD. Yes, that's what it feels like all right.

After the sun goes down. The sun goes down right, Ok, fourteen mile an hour wind right now, see there, fourteen fourteen mile an hour, which drops that wind chill from sixty eight to sixty seven. I bet six. All right, So that's the Weather Service right now says it's sixty eight. It feels like sixty eight decreases. Well, the National weather the National Weather Service is it here coming from the south. It's dropping precipitously because on my phone the temperature is

sixty five. Diggers there, God, he is going down. Guys, here we go. All right, we're just getting ready for the metal Lands weather NFC East weather football and the Cowboys were outside today. Yes, they were in shells in shadows, full practice. They only have two padded practices left, meaning available for the last one this week. They're not using one this week. So wait, they have only so many They have a year a season. So this you mean like padded padded, so shoulder pads this week? No, they

have two this week. No, No, no two through the rest of the sea because left. So they got one next week and then one the week after that per week. No, No, in total. I just can't get my mind wrapped around this man. Why what happened? Well, they used one a week because you can only have one a week. Wow, for seventeen weeks. Eighteen weeks. I don't know if they gave him another, but no, no, no, it was like thirteen or fourteen ticket for the season, thirteen or fourteen.

That's it. You know what you saw like you saw like Flozell Adams. And I saw him a couple of weeks ago, and I said, you know, they could use a backup tackle. He goes, no, No, I'm done. I said, but you know you might not have to play and you only have to practice. He goes, yeah, I gotta practice and put on pads. I go, no, only once a week. And he looked at me like what I said, Yeah, one padded practice a week, not even that, and not even that for every week, right, And he's going, m

maybe I'll take you up on that. Maybe I'll take him up. Give me a break. I can just sit back then in dime and just play middle middle fields. In the field. You don't need your pads. There's no tackle, there's no tackle. I don't have to actually tackle him, all right, So to let you know what happened in practice, uh, obviously no, Tyrn Smith, no Cedric Wilson and Sean McEwan is out there, so it looks like he, probably with that neck injury, is ready to go. Tony Pollard came

out with Zeke. When the guys were doing stretch. Zeke got on the stationary bike. Pollard worked out with Britt Brown on the cords, but when they went into some of the skeleton drills and individual drills, he had his helmet on, his shells on, and he was taking turns with Zeke. Okay, so I think at least limited today, and I think that might bode well if he comes out of it. Okay, Donovan Wilson was back, looked like

back in practice. Now. I don't know if he would be just limited, but at least he was out there taking parts in the practice. And Zeke was doing individual drills and skeleton drills and didn't seem to be having any problems. So that's kind of your injury update because from yesterday, and they didn't practice yesterday, right because they were tired, indoors, tired, resting their legs. I can't work too hard. Yeah, so that's why they had a lesser

practice today because they didn't practice yesterday. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, absolutely and the Giants one, two, three, four. Five guys didn't practice yesterday and there's was basically a walkthrough also, so five guys couldn't even do the walkthrough. Uh, and then they had three other guys limited and now they've got six guys COVID COVIDNA say what's the COVID count on both squads? So wow, boys won Cedric Wilson, Cedric Wilson and looks like six or so at this point,

although some guys could get back in time. Uh. There, I believe he's the safety. See if I can say this, Ocehan zeminous? Uh is close contact? How did I do? Did good? Good? Good? You don't even know what it's supposed to be. He's looking Yeah, he's looking out right. He's not a safety. Oh okay, linebacker. I wrote it down phonetically, so I got it, you know. Uh? Is it just the holidays? Is that why? I don't know what's happen? They've had a hundred so far this Yeah,

and then jump in the league. So on Monday seven, now that was one day, three days, seventy three days in a row. It got up to almost one hundred span about thirty five a day, Yes, seventy five hundred. Yeah, that's the way it was. Yes, So the Giants are without Cadarius Tony and John Ross, two of their better

wide receivers, linebacker Cam Brown. Uh and then Aaron Robinson was out and there are one, two, three, four, Dorry Jackson seven or Dorry Jackson they got seven teams right now are in advanced COVID protocol, meaning they're virtual meetings masked up. Can't be in the facility other than the practice. Uh so yeah, yeah, a Dory a Dory Jackson is out with a quiet in one of those cots right exactly. And then we've seen this coming, but we've seen this before.

So is the NFL are they They're getting close? Yes, they're getting close to coming down with more stringent protocols. As a matter of fact, the NFL observer was here today. I'm sure he was in town for the NFL meetings and he but he comes in like once a month to observe not only practice, like who's out there, who's around the practice, how many people that aren't players out there? And walks through the facility over there to see the

cameras are up and how they're conducting themselves elves. But yeah, and you know they've come out and basically telling the staff, Tier one, Tier two staff, you got to get your booster by December twenty seventh. And Mike mentioned yesterday that head athletic trainer Jim Mauer talked to the team before practice on Wednesday explaining the importance of the booster. Can't can't mandate it, but can tell how important it is and so social distancing. I mean, you know it's the holidays,

you know, Thanksgiving and that Christmas is coming up. Just gotta be even more careful. I've got a question about the booster. At what point after you get the booster shot does it take effect? Because when you when you got your original, it was two weeks after your second shot, right right, So when you and it was four weeks in betweens, it was like a six week process. So I think I saw something about ten days. All right.

So if the if you've got the deadline of December twenty seventh, the season, the regular season ends on January ninth, and so if someone aren't there two games in January, yeah, January second, in January ninth, Okay, all right, So if the deadline is December twenty seventh for the teams that don't make the playoffs that the booster doesn't take a if you if you wait until they're not worth if

you wait until December twenty seventh. You know, if that's the date, then it doesn't take affect nine days after. It's not the players, it's the staff. December twenty seventh on the booster. Okay, but I'm talking about the staff. I mean, well, so if you're if you're gonna set a date, if you got to get the booster, go it to have it effect on the season. Do it earlier, and you know why. I mean, if you're gonna you could It doesn't take long, right, you can go to

CVS and get a boost. Just got one to go to walgraun last night and he got up this morning. Anyway he might have got it because what the the uh? And he went to CBS. Yeah, yeah, was it seals doctor Sells, the NFL guy medical director. He was basically saying, if you have just the regular vaccination, at some point it starts wearing down. It doesn't wear off, but it wears down. And so yeah, you can go and get the booster and you'd be good to go, at least

a little bit more confident. Let's put it there, right, I'm not sure how much confidence exactly, all right, So that's your medical update, no doctors. As it pertains to Sunday's game. There is one guy who is on the Giants close contact list who is out of practice right now, and that's the safety Xavier McKinney. He has not tested positive, but he because there I believe there's a safety or

two in there. He's a close contact and so um Joe Judge expressed today that as long as McKinney doesn't test positive this week, he's confident he'll be able to play on Sunday, right and right now he's out the close contact and so and that's that's a significant player for the Giants. I mean, when you look at the Giants, they're two wins in the last five weeks over Philadelphia

and Las Vegas. They were plus four. They had four takeaways against Philadelphia and they had three takeaways against Vegas. And he had three interceptions in those two wins. Xavier McKinney, the safety out of Alabama, is a really good player. So they had basically five starters that weren't practicing yesterday. We'll see what happens today. Sequon Barkley, Daniel Jones, Austin Johnson defensive lineman, and Doory Jackson and Graham Gano their kicker was out too. The other guy that it's not

COVID but on their defensive line, Leonard Williams. Williams, Yes, um, and they're they're, they're, they're um and they and I guess Dexter Lawrence, right, he's a guy that they're trying to figure out because they had three first round picks and two of them have already flamed out, so they're hoping we may flamed out like they weren't worth the crap. Uh. Yeah, I wrote that because if that's if they aren't what the crap, then that's bad uh scouting. I mean, you

know what I'm saying. Well, it was three three first round picks from twenty nineteen. Okay, so the jury is still out on Daniel Jones, right. The first one DeAndre Baker. Um, I'm not even I don't even know if he's on the team. Uh. I had some off the field this year, right, and they got rid of him already. So that's the first Dexter Lawrence, and there's a question mark on how good he is. Yea bel Man. You spent the first

round pick and traded people away to get those picks. Guys, I think it was the Odell Beckham junior and you fire Jason Garrett. Yeah he was he was the problem. What do you think about Jason going to Jacksonville? They gotta do something culture, that's what it sounds like. It sounds there. I mean there, you got to fix the culture there. Yeah, and yeah, he would be good for that. He would be good for them, just get him. But you gotta have patience with your coach in Jacksonville. You

know that they think it's gonna happen overnight. And and you know, you fire your coach thirteen games in. You knew after the fourth game that he was not the guy. They were just hoping he wouldn't screw up again before the season was over, and he couldn't even do that. So I know, I if Jason went down there, I think it'd be good for the organization, But the organization would have to be patient, right and and think about this to all the stuff that's took place, uh with

Meyer Urban Meyer. If they were eleven and two, he's still he's still the coach, right even if he kicked the kicker and called him a dip ass. He did so. But here's my thing. When I look at the team, I don't see improvement. You know, you got a quarterback there, you got sunshine, and uh he hadn't gotten anything better, right, so you know you hadn't gotten anything better. So you need somebody that's a good quarterback. I'm talking about it

right there. Yeah, absolutely, Byron Leftwich. Byron Leftwich as a head coach. I don't even know who coordinator? Yes, yes, yeah, he beat the Cowboys pretty bad. No, that's a no brainer right there. To me, he really is. So let the Tampa Bay season play out. He's offensive coordinator there, and I think he would be a prime candidate in Jacks. Remember, everybody loves him, you know remember that. Yeah, Marshall wasn't when they were Lima carried the him to the line

of scrimmage on like a last two minute drive. I've never seen that before. They picked him up and carried him from play to play and he got out there. I believe they won that game. Did you help Dion recruit that cornerback? Did not? But I'm proud of him. I'm proud of him. Yeah when you bring that up, Yeah, Dion has never been a guy that I was patting myself after. But when you look at what he's done as a family man. He went through a couple of you know, went through a divorce of course, but his

kids seemed to be very well balanced. He brought his kid with him. He's a quarterback for Jackson State, and you know, let's just be real, he produces everywhere it goes, and at Jackson State, not just the swat needed it, but the all HBCUs. We need this influx of these professional players coming back and coaching. You good with Hugh Johnson, Hugh jack jack Sorry, I am good with Hugh Jackson because to me, he's a guy a lot like Jason Garrett.

You know, winning is important, but he's always been about the players. He's always been about the players. And he's gotten screwed a few times because he tipped that stance. So I hope he's he continued. I hope he stayed in that manner. And you know, it's a way to make a difference when you go to an HBCU, because you're talking about legacy you're not just talking about winning,

you're talking about legacy. Well, I've always talked about you graduate first, you carry yourself as a grammar night before you play as one. And so football was always there. Of course, it's it's it's sports. Like like what I've said, You're not gonna catch eighty thousand people coming to watch the geometry class, you know. So it's about football, yes, But when it's all said and done, we also realize once these young men finished, they're just another black man

trying to go into society. So we want to make sure you're ready for it. And I think Hugh Jackson's the guy that can continue that that little culture. So unfortunately, Dak's probably doing this media session right now, right now. He comes back last, and so when I came in, he was thinking and say, hey, what are you doing? He's at you. You can see him. How about this from from Zach Zack Martin. They asked him about Neville Gallimore and he said, uh, he's a dense human being.

Yeah he didn't body type, Yes, that's a dense human being. They compliment, right, he did. He did clarify that. Yeah, I think everybody knew what he was talking now, it's that's amazing, the way he's playing. I hadn't seen the play, Like, when's the last time you've seen the play like that in the pros? In the pros, I mean we've seen the LT we've seen you know, of course Boston this year. But you heard two people in one play, that's right, he did I ever seen that? And they didn't return?

He did not. I mean they were laid out. You get two people laid out. Mandy Gregy's over there just dying either, No, I don't think so. And and and speaking of Gregory, so he wanted to tell ask him about the team's identity now is defense? And he was like, I don't know, we want to go there. He said, let's put it this way. I'm very proud of where the defense is right now. And it's like, okay, good answer.

And then he went on to talk about how much confidence he had in the offense and that they still have room to improve. Uh, and just think about all those guys playing together. You know, they hadn't been together that lay had they got four games to basically get ready for. Oh, we're not supposed to just mention playoffs either. Here Mike morning after ten wins after ten wins something, yeah, yeah, yeah,

good Brad, Brad. I knew where Brad was going, like he was going to ask him if you don't you talk to the players about playoffs or the you know, the contingencies out there, and he stopped him the middle of the sentence as soon as he said playoffs, and he goes, yes, we're not gonna talk about that until we have our tenth win. That's right, because that guarantees the playoffs. Don't use that word, he said, his point

it worked last week. Oh he didn't use that word last week either, but we always always reported that either. This point was if you if you win ten games in the NFL, you have a chance, a good chance, you're gonna end up in the playoffs. Not necessarily, especially with especially with seven teams and now seventeen games, he said, I don't know, maybe I have to go till eleven. Oh yeah, but you get an extra team in the playoffs.

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T Stadium. Talk of that, man, I like that At and T Stadium. There's a lot of football being played this week. You know. The Cowboys are away from AT and T Stadium over a month, basically a full month period, from Thanksgiving until the day after Christmas. Next home game is the Washington game on the twenty sixth. But there's twelve state championship games being played at AT and T

Stadium starting yeesterday, yesterday yesterday. There's three every day Wednesday through Saturday, and ever since said he's going out there on Saturday, I'll be at the sock game at eleven South Cliff plays Liberty Hill at eleven am Saturday. Duckinville has the rematch against Galena Park north Shore, north Shore, and that's the rematch from the from the Hell Mary Hill, Mary, And I don't know if I told you I spoke

at the Duckerville's banquet after that, did you? I did, And of course I had to bring up the San Francisco game just to let them know how there's life after in the perspective. And as I was bringing that up, one guy in the stand goes, that was you. That was you. Yeah, dude, that's what I'm telling the story. So their head coach Sample sangin old Samples he U. It was like maybe a week or two after. I don't know why he was here at the Star, but

it was around the time before Jason's press conference. I'd have been a Coach of the Year deal it might have been. And they had they were they were hit and he came walking in and I saw him, and uh, I just went up to him and I said, Man, I don't know what to tell you. I said, but uh, you did a phenomenal job to actually do an interview after that game after that, because he carried himself awfully well. And I was like, if it was me, I don't

think I could look. He didn't look at it as any other loss, but it was you know, he used the same jargon, right, you know, but you know, down deep,

it was hard to say. And so just to bring the perspective on this, UH, Reginald Samples, he's been at Duncanville for several years now and this will be his third state title game, UH, in the last four years at Skyline, and he actually was before that, but he was at Skyline prior to Duncanville, and prior to that he was at Lincoln and South o'cliffe is playing in

the state championship game. The last time a d I s D School won a UIL state championship was nineteen fifty Sunset High School or the last time they were able to keep a state championship Dallas Carter in nineteen

eighty eight. That just gets everybody goes past that, right, right, Carter being converse Judson, When you have those great player might have been one of the best high school teams in the same they got to take it away because of the things off the field they didn't know to do with how good they were on the front and U and Jesse Armstead was on that team, that Carter

team in nineteen eighty eight. The DISD school made it to the state championship game in two thousand and four and Reginald Samples was the head coach of the Lincoln team was led by Byron Eton, who was a quarterback. Eton was a great basketball player at Oklahoma State. They lost it on an double overtime against Kilgore on a blocked field goal attempt that was returned for a touchdown. Okay, let's let let's put things uh. Also, let's let's talk

about another one. If I were not mistaken High Park Field, was that Sample's team with the controversial on sidekick? You remember it was no No, it was yeah skyline against South Lake Carol. Yeah, and controversial on side kick. Yeah. I can't. I was there and I can't. I was there too. I remember how that it was a uh when past ten yards it didn't go ten yards and didn't something like that? Yeah like that. Yeah, that was

very controversial as well. So that was. But Samples has had these all these close calls and has not won a state championship and he is considered the godfather of coaches in the area. And Jason Todd, who is the head coach at South oak Cliffe, was on Sample's staff for ten years at Lincoln and then at Skyline and got the South Old Cliff job in South oak Cliffe

now is playing in the state championship game. You guys are selling tickets to Saturday well, and then well, here's the other thing, is um the Saturday night game, Austin Westlake is playing Denton Guyer. Austin Westlake might have the best high school football team I've ever seen. And Todd Dodge is the head coach there and it's going to be his last game. He's retiring at the end of the season. And uh, and so not to move on to No, he's retiring from coaching and so Westlake. I

mean they've been weekend. Yeah, old enough to retire, he's not. I was thinking he must be moving on. I didn't think he was that old. He's really not. He had helped issue a year or two ago, and so he's decided that this is it for now anyway, because he can't be like early sixties, right, he's probably maybe late fifties or sixty. He was nineteen eighty one out of Port Arthur so or whatever. That would be still forty

years ago. He's probably fifty eight or so. Yeah, so nice. Anyway, all right, they get you up to speed on everything that's going on out there. I like that before WrestleMania, says, um, all right, how what concerns you about the Giants this week? What concerns me is the Cowboys? Yeah? Yeah, I mean I don't want to go into another Denver game. It's too late for that to have that kind of setback. I don't want to see us as a team, and that could go for any of these uh instwing games.

I don't want to see us go back to old habits. We've got a little issue at the quarterback position, with the passing game una offensive line. But you know, this is the moment to where we understand what our problems are. Let's just move forward with him and every NFL team does it. Let's not keep acting like we're so delicate and put together so shakily to where we can't survive, you know, just a little bit of adversity. So you know, let's just go forward. And what helps you with that

is having a good defense. Okay, I guess my question is, uh, from a coaching perspective, what is a more nerve wracking game for a coach when you're playing when you're going up against the Giants this week. Yeah, or let's say Arizona two weeks after that. Yeah, this game game four nine, uh and and and Mike talked about what he was concerned most about with the Giants defense with the Cowboys

trying to get their offense going. He said, they're, uh, they've they've played every defensive front that's available in football, so they're they're multiple, right, they don't do the same three man two four linebackers four or three. They play a lot of different fronts. They probably moved the front

to try to confuse the offensive line. Uh. That was his concern for him, to get the offense ready to face their multiple all yeah, yeah, yeah, so uh, because you know, with the injuries they have, the COVID they have that they haven't been very good offensively so far this year. Um, you just got to take care of yourself, I think from from that standpoint, and don't go out there and flop around, turn the ball over, give them easy touchdowns, things like that, and you would be able

to take care of yourself. I think that's why, you know, we would just trying to say nothing worried me. It worries us about the Giants. It's the Cowboys, you know. So the last game that we do, they're last games. Uh, and they they've they've won a couple of them. But they scored twenty five points uh to beat Carolina twenty five to three. And then they've scored seventeen twenty three

and a win over the Raiders. Uh. Ten against Philadelphia thirteen and a win oh no, that was over ten was Tampa Bay and then nine and twenty one in the loss of the Chargers. Why did do the NFC East teams have the problems with the Raiders? Have they beaten anybody else other than the NFC East? What's the deal for the Giants beat the Raiders? Yeah, so I'm saying, why, well, you know, if the Giants can beat them, why can't

anybody else? Yeah? So, well, Washington beat the Raiders too, they beat them, So Cowboys, the problem is the Cowboys can't beat Uh. Here's the common denominator in their two wins though against the rate the Giants. Their win over the Raiders, they had three takeaways. There went over Jalen Hurts in Philadelphia they had four takeaways, and the other games they had zero takeaways the last two weeks against the Chargers and the Dolphins and lost both those games.

I mean they were they got blown out by the Chargers. It was thirty seven to seven before they scored two dance to make it thirty seven to twenty one. And so Freddie Kitchen in the answer to that, Well, and then Mike Glennon's is quarterbacking and uh, his career record as a starting quarterback in this league is six and twenty three. And now we saw how is that? Now? We saw Glennon earlier this season, as we all recalled, Daniel Jones got knocked out of the game here, sae

Quon Barkley got knocked out of the game here. Uh, and Barkley was out for the next six weeks. He's he's back now, um, and so they do have a healthier Barkley. Now, Well, didn't Glen Glennon led him to those late touchdowns right against the Giants because it looks like, okay, it was forty four to twenty. It was like forty four to seven I think at some point or forty four to ten. Well, that's when the second he threw a touchdown pass to Anthony Brown. If I remember correctly. Yeah,

that's true. Did he throw one ton Cadarius Tony because I think he had a pretty good game against the Cowboys. Forgot he did that, guys, that's the only way they covered him extra Yeah, you know, he's an amazing athlete. Oh, just he's a dynamic player. Just the touchdown pass Glennon threw against the Cowboys was to devant A Booker, the running back right who came in for Barkley in that game, and and Brown sealed the win with the forty five

yard interception return. Cowboys were at halftime only led that game seventeen to ten. Right, it was seventeen to thirteen early in the third, and that's when the Cowboys rattled off seventeen straight points to That's that's how the Giants play. They play you tough in the first half. Even against Tampa, they played them tough in the first half. And then Yeah that was boying. But you said, I think Tampa went on to win by a couple of touchdowns. Yeah, they won thirty to ten over him. Um, so I

mean they can hang in there. Right. We got from a from a player's step perspective, how do the players approach playing a team like the Giants who are four and nine. You have to you have to fight trying to be greedy. You have to be more controlled, you know. You have to be that team that says, the wave is coming. We're gonna do what we do. The wave is coming. We just can't rush it, you know, just like you you spoke, I just said it. Uh. The teams are always close in the first half and then

it's the second half because of the discipline. In the second half, the better team always wins. So we just have to stay disciplined. We can't come out with the same old Let me get the offense warmed up a little bit. You gotta crank that thing up. Kind of crank that offense up up a little interception. Oh man, it's no big deal. Strip sack fother. We're gonna We're still trying to crank that thing up. We got the white gass. Yeah, yeah, we need to come out. We

just come out and be solid. Just come out and be solid. You use all three fats of the game. Nobody get lazy. So it sounds like, yeah, the same lawn Moore I had. Yeah, well, the great Joys the same I was the same month, but Yeah, we just have to come out and be solid. You see it happening the better teams, Tampa, Green Bay, they're coming out gramps. They're coming out and executing right off the bat. They are way past that beginning of the season, mid season,

we're still trying to get it going. No, they're polished right now. And they come out first drive, second drive, and they score and they keep the pressure on. That's what I mean. You keep the pressure on, you don't score and then let up like we did in the Washington game. Well, it had been a while, I think since the Cowboys had scored on the first drive of the game, but they did it. Unfortunately it was a field goal. Uh. This last game, and I was just

trying to see what they've done the previous games. The Saints it was a punt, um, a punt, a punt, a punt, and a touchdown against the Falcons. That was a forty three to three win. Yeah, there you go. So it's been a while. Uh. And then the Broncos it was downs, actually downs the first two positions they gave the ball up on so they went for down, fourth down, right, the Vikings miss field goal, The Patriots downs, the giants the first time around interception. Oh no, so

that first drive. Uh, they've had some problems with See. I hate watching that punt touchdown, touchdown, punt, so that I can't Clint still the second half. Yeah, he's killing me. I can't live like this. All right? We continue with more mix shots in them all it. The Medal of Honor is our country's highest military award for valor in combat. More than forty million individuals US have served in the armed forces since the Civil War. Fewer than four thousand

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dot com slash Rowdy Ho ho ho ah. And by the way, I was doing a segment this morning with the guys on Giants or New York Giants dot com, and they were asking me try to describe digs and I used Everson Walls as my example, and we were talking about the ability to catch the ball, and so I said something in one of the guys go, yeah, he goes. When you talk about Walls, you mean he the guy's crafty because Walls was crafty. And I said, okay, guy's last name was Patino. Maybe somebody knew you. He

must have covered the team for a long period. That sounds familiar. That name does sound familiar, Patinos. So would you describe yourself as crafty? Yeah? Definitely? That was that was it be a dummy out there, especially when you're ruining the fourth seven. You can't run fast. But yeah, that was it. Okay, Cowboys game against the Cardinals January second is now a three twenty five kickoff. That's not surprising the Cardinals news regarding them as a wide receiver

DeAndre Hopkins officially had surgery on a torn MCL. He's going to have it in the coming days. Is headed to injured reserve. His regular season is over. They are hopeful that he might be able to return if they go deep in the playoffs. Yeah, I've never I've never heard of anybody having surgery on a torn MCL. It can't be a scope, right, Well, it probably is, but I've maybe that is to give him a chance to

be back back to the playoffs. Well, normally, if you tear your MCL, I mean it's it's it's usually a partial tearror or whatever, and it's two to four weeks. I don't recall anybody like tearing it all the way because you a tear is if you stretch it right, it's a terror because some of the ligament phrase right, um, And then if you're somebody like me, it's a it's a month and ye, yeah, I'm thinking it's medial. Thinking you out well medial collateral and you're usually out two

to four. So maybe you're right. Maybe they have a way to do surgery. Okay, so it's what is it December sixteenth or so? Um, so they haven't ruled out the playoffs, is they're right? And so that takes you basically to the first four weeks, would get you to the wild card round of the playoffs basically, right, So maybe that's they Who knows, but I guess by doing a surgery they can getting back quicker that way because

the MCL usually regenerates itself. Did that twice. That's how you know so much about a man that has been bad. All right. We touched on the Urban Meyer news in Jacksonville the and we mentioned a possibility on a replacement there, and of course the first tweets out after urban Meyer was let go there was Kellen Moore tweets and so Kellen Moore to Jacksonville, Well, here's the thing, if you're going to take that first job, you better make sure

you got a quarterback. There's a quarterback. There's a quarterback there. Yeah, because I remember when who was it Sean Payton did the interview with the Raiders, and it would have been two thousand in four, two thousand and five. He got to the Saints in oh six, I think it was, so it must have been oh five. He interviewed and he basically turned the job down because no quarterback, and I think that was part of it. There were some other reasons, you know. And I remember somebody said, oh,

he just he just committed professional suicide. He turned down Al Davis and it's like, okay, but what situation is are the Raiders in at this time? Davis has no juice in the NFL. It was always about the way

back then, right and so and so. Anyway, and then when he took the job with the Saints, it was a it was a two man deal, right because they took the chance on Drew Brees when the um what was it, It was his shoulder, It was a shoulder and and so the Dolphins they they failed him on his physical which didn't make Saban happy by the way, and he only staged I think one more year and then left. But it was about the quarterback and so they I remember them signing it sounded like they signed

Breeze to this big contract. But basically, if you looked at the inside of it, the details were one year, ten million dollars. So they bet ten million dollars that the shoulder would recover and he'd be fine. They won the bet and Sean Payton became a genius head coach. So don't go anywhere without a quarterback. Look at Jacksonville. They have the potential for a good defense. They have a couple of veterans on there, especially at the linebacker position,

that doing the best they can under these situations. But you know, you could go there and make some noise first year, and you got to put together You got to put together a staff because urban Meyer said, my assistant coaches they are a bunch of losers. Probably didn't help them out much. Goodness, man. So you know what, You know what this proves if you're a college head coach, you've got a lot of cover. You can do a

lot wrong if you're winning and it never leaks out. Yeah, but once you get to the NFL, there's too many eyes on you, and anything that off the off your competition is much stiffer. That's the main thing that exactly caused you to do stupid things. If you're not prepared, I'm not sure that Jacksonville would be the place that I would want to go, even with the quarterback. You know, if first job, somebody's got to change it, somebody has

to change it down. Then where's Jimmy. Jimmy was in Miami and uh, he flirted, he flirted with with Jacksonville. That was one of the things. You remember, the Giants and Jacksonville. Anyway, you can keep flirted boat man, you know. Yeah, that's right. If you got the place I can put my boat and drink some beers, I'm good. The advantage on the Jacksonville is you don't have the media that I have at other places that can drive you out real quick, you know. And they probably don't have a

very demanding fan base either, since they've been hotels. No. I know that I showed up there one year to cover at the last minute. I think it was Oklahoma State in in what did they it was at the Wood Bowl Gator Bowl, and could not find a hotel. I could not find a hotel room and and it's and the city's laid out kind of weird anyway, right, And so I remember this was funny. Uh, the guy that was covering for the Morning News. He had a

room and I had a rental car. So it was like, he goes, okay, don't tell Dave Smith memory of the sports edator Czar at the Morning News. He goes, but we can share my room and then I'll share your car and get me to the airport. I said, fine with me, right, and so we pulled it off. But yeah, showed up there with that. That was an ugly super Bowl. The event, oh, the super Bowl was just we had a Super Bowl golf tournament. I was invited to it, and everyone was supposed to get paid like a thousand

dollars to play golf. They're supposed to be a great event. So you look around, I mean everyone was there. Bates and Jack del Riel was still fussing about getting you know, Bates getting fired by Jack del Riel down there, u LT was there, Banks was there, everybody, everybody was there, and I remember on channeling he looked around. He said, it's not enough money to pay all these people. Man, man,

what are you talking about it? Next thing, you know, the guy that set up the event, they caught him at the airport trying to get away with all the money no way. So we're standing there, the cops pull up. Hey guys, you played out golf if you want. But the guy that just set it up, you know, we just arrested this. Yeah, he ain't got It was ugly. It was ugly. You know. The other thing that was there is what they pulled off, and that's why they'll

never get another Super Bowl. Is like, there wasn't a lot of restaurants downtown, but the ones they did, they were charging a seating charge, so per person per table, Like if you had five people they were charging that would be fifty bucks before you even got on the menu. Yeah, and and the menus changed, like the menu you looked up online, wasn't the menu they were handing you. The prices yeah, oh the prices changed, Yeah, the fan was still. The prices change. Yeah. Yeah. But so my advice to

you it would be be patient. Sometimes you're you're you're better off, you're better off as an offensive coordinator in a certain spot that you know, then then that head coaching job elsewhere. Yeah, and he's young, he's he's gonna have another oportunities, So there you go. You know, we talked Zim sort of did the same thing. Too, because he had the interview um with Nebraska and he didn't kind of like set up there and so unfortunately and some of the most important thing is who you who

you gonna be working with? Right and then and then yeah, and then they didn't. Uh. He he might have been the head coach here, but Bill didn't decide to retire. His contract was up and he had the opportunity to go to Atlanta to be the defensive coordinator for the guy that was at Louisville UM. And then he quit. Yeah, and somebody somebody said something about, you know, college coaches going to the NFL and failing, and they go, yeah, and Petrino goes to Atlanta and and and failed, and

it's like, no, he quit. He quit to go to Arkansas to be the head coach and then left all the coaches there high and dry, and Zim was simmering, right. He didn't say anything until he got to Cincinnati as the defensive coordinator there and they had to play Atlanta and somebody asked him about it and old mom, Wow, God, he went off, just went off on his coach quitting. You can't quit and leave a staff there and families

there and just walk out on him without even telling us. Oh, he went crazy, but he deserved he deserved every bit of it he did. He ended up. Yeah, he got what he deserved in the end. Yeah's not the only coach he's done that. Okay, that does it for mix shots for this Thursday. And we've got a wild and wacky Friday because tomorrow one thirty five. All right, we'll see you tomorrow at one thirty or one thirty five,

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