Mick Shots: Draft Intensive

day on Thursday April twenty eighth. I'm sorry, um, something's gone here. What's tromp? No? No partition? Number one number? Where's the music? No intro? Did y'all lose the hotel? I don't know what happened, Chris. Maybe we're just not hearing the music. I gotta do my look. You know that tells you how long it's been since you've guess. So the partitions went away and then they came back, I know, and then they went away, went away away

last week and we've been away. I like the music, man, come get you, and we haven't done the music in like two months. So where have you been? Come on? Man, that's not true. That is not true true. I like the music, man, Why do we get do away? Right? So I will know not that music, I'll make up music. And I've been carrying this around with me for three weeks. I went through some old stuff and I found this, and I figured you would enjoy it more. You said

you had something. Oh yeah, that's big. Do we want to explain what this is? Yeah, it's the front page of the sports section of the Saint Petersburg Times at the time of Super Bowl twenty four Everson Walls of New York Giant, A giant thriller twenty nineteen. Just so you know, who's the picture of Norwood? That is Myron Guiding all right. And there is an inside story and there's quotes from Everson on one of the stories. Oh yes, I figured you would enjoy that. I had it in

a pile of old newspapers. So you're giving it to him? It's his Well, you know the thing. I appreciate this very much. Spaks for Will because I figured he wouldn't have that. I finally say, can you get rid of these newspapers fire had? Oh no, you should see the stuff I have. By the way, no, I what this did for real when they said, thanks guys, we needed this. You know, the country was really trippered at the time. It's under the paper. Yeah, and no, this is my fun.

Yeah it was. And excuse me watch ye I'm not as old as I look. Okay, but now we talked about it was important. I talked about the you know, the golf war at the time. No, yea. Not only was the golf war going. I remember before the game, the helicopter it was a no fly zone and the helicopters were flying overhead and the doors were open and the turrets were sticking out. Is that crazy? As they were flying, I could see the guns. That was the first That was the beginning of of the you know,

major security. Yeah, long lines now and everything with the winds and all that kind of stuff. So yeah, and it didn't matter who won the game. What they meant what we needed play the game, good game. I need a good good game, and exact yours. Thank you, don't throw it away. I will not tell my own guy, and I have him in my house. There you go, all right, got anything for me? I gave you yours, but you already had one. The draft guy that's right there. It is show the show the folks out there, the

draft guy. As a matter of fact, here's draw Boys Star Magazine. And by the way, if you go on Dallas Cowboys dot com and go to uh Star magazine, UH twenty percent off so you can get the print copy now sent to you within two business days for nine nine nine. All right, all right, very good. So you can have your very own ki of something to give you. No, you can't have it. Look at official introduction today. I'm glad I made it today. This is

a good strike. And if you've got forty three billion dollars, you can buy the Green NFL Draft Scotty notebook, or you can buy Twitter, which the value of everyone in book. Yes, I want the Big Green, or I want you want? You want to buy Twitter? Or do would you like to buy the Big Green? How about you selling the shares for you and Mark Cuban going after Twitter? Yeah? Anyway, all right, what do you want to get into? First?

Two weeks out from the draft. Two weeks out from the draft, visits are all taken care of the board, all put together. I think it's close, okay, Usually uh that board gets together. Um so we're two weeks away. Usually gets together before that. You enter the last week, so around let's see the drafts the twenty eighth, So around the twenty third or so, the board would be put together, probably like to get it done before the

weekend before the draft exactly. And then what they normally do that week of the draft is they start doing their own mock drafts and start picking and having different scenarios play out and say, okay, if we get to this pick at this time, what do we do if this is available? Uh, Jerry was at, get on those those mock draft simulators online, play it out? Yeah, yeah, no, they are. They just I know you're a big fan of the Pro Football Focus mock drafts. You know, I

was looking at it. I was looking at that. I was you know, you asked me to do some NFL draft stuff and I saw the PFF of the lay up. No, not another you know, and they'll go through it and appoint somebody for each team and then they'll they'll do their own mock with the you know, the scouts and coaches or whatever. Um. You know. Jerry was at yesterday during the Blockchain dot Com Press Conference Cowboys in partnership with a cryptocurrency company if they would trade up in

the draft. And I wrote down his exact quote because I knew somebody would kind of say, oh, yeah, Jerry said they're going to trade up. And his exact quote was, I would trade up since we are down as low as we are in those first two or three rounds. So he didn't say the first round. He meant the first two days. And they should be thinking that they could do that. They've got four fifth round picks. If you're not moving to have a fourth round or two

and a fourth rounder, you're not moving too far. You could jump a few picks even in the you know you're at twenty four, you can get to twenty two twenty without giving up your draft because what you can do is like in the case of now he alluded to the Frederick but yeah, it was a trade down, but it wasn't died. Yeah, now, DeMarcus Lawrence was a trade up right to the top of the second round.

So let's say you make your your pick at twenty four and then started Day two, you package your third rounder and your second rounder and move up to the top of the second round or your fourth and if what I was gonna know, But what I was gonna say, you can package because you've got those four fifth rounds picks, right, you can do what you did in the Lawrence trade, which is package a three and a two to move up to thirty four, okay, and make your pick and get your guy that you had maybe even had a

first round grade, which is almost the first round pick. That's right, especially in this draft that as deep as this draft is, there's so many players in this draft, and then you can make up your third round pick by packaging your fourth. And even if it takes a couple of those fits to get into the third round, I think you still want as many top one hundred players as you can get, right, and at this point they've got three, twenty four, fifty six, and eighty eight.

But the power of those four fifth round picks is you can package a third in a second to move up in the second, and then you can get back into the third right by using those fifth round picks with the fourth to move in right exactly. And in the fifth they got pick four picks between one fifty five and one seventy eight, So yeah, they're good picks, and so you just gotta let it play out. You don't go in saying yeah, we're gonna move up. You

got to see what's available. And I would imagine when they get close to twenty four or at twenty four, with the number of needs they have, and we can talk about what the top three or four are, there's gonna be a player there that they would be interested in. This is a deep draft for offensive lineman, for wide receivers, for defensive ends. Um, so yeah, they've got enough needs to spread around that you know there'll be something there. And I don't know if unless somebody falls right in

their category of need. Uh, you know, they could be very flexible and use whatever based based on the abundance of talent. It seems like that's a possibility, right right. I mean, because you have so much talent in this draft, and I I you know, defensive line, defensive end. That could be that defensive tackle there that you say, I guess, can't pass this guy up. You know, I may not need him as a need. But boys at the guy from we talked about it last week, the guy from Georgia.

Which one, right, the one that's not as good. They're all as good. They're all as good is it Jordan Davis. But Davonte Wyatt. Now, Jordan Davis is six six, three hundred and forty one pounds. Uh, he's your one technique. Anybody runs a four seven eight. Yeah, Davonte Wyatt is sixty three, three hundred five pounds, and he's your three technique. And he's got a quick first step. And they're projecting him going about earlier, right, either one. I mean they're

either way, depending on what your need is. Now, they're both, they're both projected around. In fact, Dame Bruegler has them back to back with his twenty third and twenty fourth overall ranked players. Now others have Jordan Davis ranked higher around fifteen or so. But I mean it's still it's it's still in the ballpark of where the Cowboys are at twenty four. And I did print out, and I was looking to see where Gil Brandt he had his top. I haven't seen his Okay top one hundred. He had

Jordan Davis at nineteen. Um, I might have missed Wyatt. Let's see if I missed him, but he had he had them ranked awfully high, with some people already have him ranked in the twenties. White. Yeah, right, man, you know they don't necessarily have him going that that fun now Like Daniel Jeremiah has Davante Wyatt as his number

two defensive tackle twenty ninth overall. Brugler's got him as his number he Brugler actually has Wyatt ranked ahead of Jordan Davis his number one defensive tackle twenty three overall, and Jordan Davis. Jeremiah's got him seventeenth, number one overall defensive tackle and Bruglers got him twenty fourth, so they're in the same ball. He'll had him at forty five. Got who Wyatt? Yeah? Wyatt? Yeah, So that's a little bit low, Yeah from what I saw. But hey, our

guy and Winfrey was forty eight. Okay. And by the way, I think we missed this and maybe we didn't, but on March fourth, Gil turned ninety years Wow. Wow, we did miss that. I did because I talked to him last a week ago today and you know, we were talking about how they ended up, and we talked about it yesterday or last week. I think how they ended up with way Raphael right, like Hannah Hell, did they know some guy from Fort Valley State? Right where? Hell

did he come from. That's when the Cowboys were at them. Well you know, and well maybe because I talked to him after this show on Thursday, so he said, well, we were ahead of everybody because what we did back then is we found a coach at schools in different areas, at the HBCU schools, and we paid them one hundred dollars, like one hundred dollars for the year, and they were our scouts for guys that we might not have our

scouts might not have seen. And just so happened that Rayfield's coach at Fort Valley State, Stan Lomax, was their guy, and they basically heard from him. It's like, hey, you need to look at this guy as an athlete. He goes, I'm not sure what position he's at, but he's an athlete. And that happened with two Tall Jones the year before because a lot of people didn't know that two Tall was or actually it would have been seventy no, no, it was seventy four. A lot of people didn't know

that he was eligible for the draft. A lot of people thought he had one more year and he didn't, and so the Cowboys made the pick. Everyone said, wait, we thought oh, you can't do that. And the coach there told him no, wait, he he actually played this year, that it wasn't account that's unfair. What a second, Yeah, hey man, you gotta watch those HBCUs records might not

be as especially as you know. And he was down there and he said, once a year they would bring all these guys in and and have like a you know, a little get together, and you know, he goes or we'd go out on the road and buy them lunch, and and they would help us with guys like rayfield Wright, who UH thought he was going to play basketball until um, you know, the Cowboys, uh offered. And even when he came here, he had no idea I was going. He

basically told me. He told me, uh during that interview Bill. I found the interview we had with him up in the Cowboys club and and he said basically that he didn't think he was gonna make it in football. They drafted him in the seventh round. So he said, well, the Cowboys UH treenty camp began the middle of July, and I figured, Okay, I'll go to that and then when I get cut the training camp for the Cincinnati Royals and NBA started and it goes, I'll just play

basketball when with the big Oh you know what. I went back and listened to that whole show. It was. It was an all timer, not because of us, because of Rayphiel opening up about his background. So where did you find it? I googled Cowboys Legend show Rayphiel. Right, Okay, I'm gonna do the same, and I'll tweet it out. And it was really good. And by the way, his

memorial service is tomorrow. Passed away at seventy six. Did you know when you knew he had some seizures and that he was struggling, And the last thing I heard was it didn't look good, And obviously he didn't. And it's a shame because he was. He was a great guy. He goes all the way back for us in Hamilton Park. You know they would come down, you know, all the old school guys. They come to Gray but there was the Grahams barber shop. Okay, that was the main thing.

That's where they come get a haircut. Because of course, the practice facility was over there, right up the street a couple of miles for US landon Aples and we were right there for US Lane six thirty five, and so they just come right down the street a couple of miles and uh, ray Field right was there. Jethville Pe was big in Hamilton Park and of course Dorset. As we got older, Doorset would come down all the time and get his hair cut and that was like

celebrity role man. People be outside, you know, just kind of talking with him, and it was no big deal back in the day. That was got such a long time ago. They come, they run through and even when I made the team, ray Field was like, hey, is your mom miss Walls? Yeah, yeah, yeah, I was there. I remember seeing big guys, but I can't necessarily say that I could know that was I could have thought that it could be Jethroll Pufall, I know, you know, but at that time they were just big eyes down.

There would have been Willie towns and towns for big time minutes in Hamiltons Park. Did he really Yes? Now they some of them will come to our churches. Doug Dennison, you know, was a was a member of Hamilton Park First Baptist Church for a minute. Huh. So, yeah, we had some some cowboys. They are always connected to the cowboys. So when I made it, you know, it was like, okay, this is you know, and all those guys Willie Towns, Jethro Pugh, ray Field, they stayed here after they're playing

day Yeah. Yes, so anyway, yeah and so yeah ray Field. Uh, it was it was a really really good show. And he did tell us the story about his one catch he had as a tight end, and he talked about how he lined up here and Bob Hayes lined up there, and uh, you know, Meredith ended up throwing him the pass over the middle. I found I actually found the video of it and it was a fifteen yard touchdown pass. He went in untouched, right. I saw that and he

said did they show that? Uh, they've shown that before. Yeah, and uh he said the years later, he went up to Meredith. They were at some function. He says, hey, don do you remember throwing me that touchdown pass? And he goes, oh, hell, Raphael, I wasn't throwing the ball to you. You were so tall you jumped up and got in the way. I was trying to throw it to Bob Hays. So anyway, it was. It was a good walk down his memory lane, by the way, all right, and I have found it. And so in the next break,

I will tweet it out. Okay, that sounds good. Okay, all right, and it's about time for that next break. What do you want to get into when we come back here. Let's talk a little bit about positions like that, positions in the draft, and we'll get to Everson's homework assignment as well. And don't don't mix shots continues at a moment, brace yourself for an existential question. Has your butt been having enough fun lately? Have you been treating it well? Has it been going places? If not, then

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All right, and I tweeted out the show from the Cowboys legend show that Mickey was referring to with Rayfield right at CBS eleven, Bill Jones, you can take a look at that, and after you listen to mix Shots. That's right, and call in eight eight eight eight five five two two nine seven. All right, there you go. We're taking phone calls since Everson's not hogging up the line. Right, all right, very good, I'm here today. All right, all right.

Positions of need for the Cowboys, they are a plenty, yes, and I think we probably could each pick one and we'll be right. Okay, So we're gonna be I'm gonna pick a position I'm going to pick a position of Okay, are you saying that with the first round pick first you would like to see a player at this position picked? Right? And again, second and third round still could be addressed if you didn't do it in the first round. And this is sort of probably I'm tipping my hand what

I'm going to write about for tomorrow. But my need, and there's plenty of them. I think in the first round will be wide receiver Gee with a surprise, and we've already had that discussion with Everson, and my priority is since they've got Ceedee, Lamb, are you going to hair ours for then we will discuss Yes, go ahead, Everson, you go next first round. We're talking first round, paid for the downs Cowboys, all right? You know where I stand.

You know, I love the excitement of the wide receivers and all of that, But when we talk about our running game and the lack thereof at the end of the season, we talked about the four man rush that's getting to our quarterback. I have to go with an offensive tackle, all right, and the one that I see right now is Trevor Penning from Northern High one offensive tackle. He's a stud He's nasty. He's nasty, and that's what

you need out there. Man. He's six feet six inches tall, three hundred and thirty pounds wing spands what eighty three inches? Oh my god, that's that's a lot because hands are ten and a quarter. That's huge. This is what you need, guys, this is what you need. You guys want to go with the fluff, man. I want to go with the you know that. I want to get down the trenches with it. That's where you need to get better. In the trenches. We are known as a team that is soft.

I think Trevor can bring a little grit to this Dallas Cowboys offensive line because we have been ridiculed in the latter parts of the season and I'm getting tired of it. We need to be strong in the trenches, down the stretch, playoff football, we are not there. Trevic can get us there. And he at six seven, three twenty five pounds ran a four eight nine forty. His cone drill was seven twenty five, which is really really

good for an offensive lineman. Come on now. And here's the other thing about him is I think he could play guard. If you decide that your best five offensive lineman would be to have Terrence Steele start at right tackle, he could play left guard, and then in his second year moved to an offensive tackle position. And we keep talking about swing tackles, and that's the way I would agree to that that the guy has to be able to play guard. What about the swing tackle position. You

don't want it. You don't want to take an off Oh I'm not taking a first round pick and be a swing tackle. Okay, No, no, in the dish into being a swing tackle? Oh yeah, yes, yes, all right. Here's the pecking order on the offensive lineman offensive tackles. Okay. You got the two at the very top, i Akanu and Evan Neil, and they're gonna go in the top five six picks. Okay. And then you've got Charles Cross from Mississippi State, and he is being projected by some

as as a top ten pick. There have been some who say that he might slide, and there are some who say that the Cowboys might even be able to package from twenty four move up if they really like him. Take him, all right, what if Gill has him at five? He's got him at five, or let's say let's say he slid to sixteen true guard. No, he's a tackle. He's a offensive tackle, and some say he's the best pass blocking tackle in this draft. We're talking about Charles Cross,

Mississippi State. Okay, I'm just thrown him out there as an example because Nicky said he doesn't want to take a tackle unless he's gonna start for you. Okay, all right, here's here's a guy that in law likelihood way, he is rated, and you are trading up to take him. He's probably going to be your starting right tackle if you're drafting him in the first round. Okay, Now, Terrence Steele becomes your swing tackle, you still don't have your guard.

But are you willing to do that? Well, my thoughts are when they cut Lale Collins, in their mind, they did it because Terrence Steele played better than him last year, right, and so there, And like I always say, at some point, you can't have a stake at every offensive line position. Let me throw one more thing on this now, not just for this now, for this year, Cross could start it probably another tackle. Next year, Cross could start at

right tackle. He's being projected by some Gil Brand included as a top five pick in this draft, meaning that he has a the ability to play left tackle and eventually replace Tyrn Smith as your left tackle. But he's not going to be the last guy that can replace todcast Man. All right, So now you're picked best player. Now that the best player available at a position of need. I'm serious, I want the best player available that wasn't no position of need. Okay, and they've got a position

A position of need. Would be a wide receiver, it would be an offensive guard or tackle. It could be a linebacker. It could be a defensive tackle or end, or a defensive end or especially a defense. Seriously, bailout. I want the best player there. Okay. If I've got let's say, I mean, let's just use And that wasn't the premise that let's I'm trying to think of it. Of an example of a guy. Okay, here's for instance. Okay, go back in the Cowboys past. Okay, in two thousand

and eight, the Cowboys had two first round draft picks. Okay, they took Mike Jenkins and Felix Jones with those two first round draft picks because they had a kneed at cornerback and they had a need at running pick. Okay, the guy I wanted to draft that year. It was Jordy Nelson. Okay, he went early second round. I thought, with one of those two first round picks, they need Jordy Nelson. Okay. And and you think back to where the Cowboys were at wide receivers. TiO was right at

the you know, TiO, it was the end. It was it was at the end or whatever. What did the Cowboys have to do in two thousand and eight during the season because they were so short at wide receiver, they traded for Roy Williams and they gave up their first round draft pick in two thousand and nine. How awful was the two thousand and nine draft? Didn't have a first round draft pick and then started trading down whatever in the second round. It was a bad draft

to begin with. All in all, but my point is, Okay, we didn't think that they necessarily had a need at wide receiver. But the Jordy Nelson's a better player than Felix jones H or Mike Jenkins. So take Jordy Nelson with that pick, and then you don't have to give up your first round draft pick for us, all right, we have the best player available as a safety. I've got to take in a safety, you know, not in the first Yeah, it's a quarter, I'm saying, in a position. Okay,

so what give me your position of need? Then, well, after what we do. Well, here's the other part of it is what I'm anticipating. What I'm inticipate. At least give us a positioned just give us that. I love taking a wide receiver. I gave you. I gave you my position to need. Okay, I said every position. I said, wide receiver, offensive guard, or tackle, whatever. Okay, um, defensive tackle, all right, all right, we got linebacker. We have to

we have to to pare it down. So okay, if let me give you okay, I'll give you players, Scot I mean what I'll give you what player? What if again, some position that you don't need, and Michael Parsons is there, I'm gonna give you. I'm gonna give you players. Okay. If wide receiver, I mean, there's there's several that could trail and Burke's Chris lave right. If this Drake London falls, I mean, any of those guys snap him up. Love it. Defensive tackle. If Jordan Davis is there, I want that day.

If Davonte Wyatt is there, I'll take Davante why right, Okay? Um linebacker Nakobe Dean. I love this guy too, and he's likely gonna be there. I mean, it sounds like he's gonna be there. Okay, and so do I. If I think Nakobe Dean is gonna be a Pro Bowl player at linebacker, why would I take an offensive guard to fill a quote unquote need right there? That offensive guard, I don't project him to be a Pro Bowl player

in his career. I'm gonna I want to take the guy who in the first round, who I think has the potential to be a Pro Bowl player at a position of need. You look at the Cowboys best That wasn't the question. You look at the Cowboys best draft moments. Have they ever compromised themselves in that manner? Yes, give me their best moments? Yes, I was gonna say their

worst moments best moments. I know you know worse because you ranted, I want to do the best moments that the Cowboys had to where they needed someone they want they need to fill in the spot and they say, you know what, last year, Michael Parsons because they were dead set on drafting a cornerback. And when the cornerbacks were off the board, thank goodness, the cornerbacks were gone. It was like God said, It's like everybody was sitting there going, oh, no for once backs are going and

I'm going no because my man Parsons is there. Yeah, same thing. So you got trend and Jerry mentioned that during his last press conference. He basically said, yeah, we need this, this and this, but unless Michael Parsons or

Ceedee Lamb is sitting there, much changes your mind. My point is, but it's a position that you could qualify using right when you say best player available, because best player, you better not take a tight end because I'm not gonna get caught up in the fact that I need I need a left guard because I can go find there's a veteran left guard on the street right now who I can go sign who this year is going

to be a better football player for my team. A rookie coming in and he starts to suck, then that's why he was available. Good guys, you get one in the second round and there's there's free agent wide receivers you can still sign, right, Jarvis Landry's still out there. Uh, that would be a nice pickup. I see Sammy watching

Sammy Watkins was going to visit somewhere today. T Y Hilton, Manuel Sanders, Alan Hearns, by the way, And here's one that I didn't realize he was still available, markis Goodwin, Texas wide receiver track star. He didn't. He was one of the COVID outs twenty twenty, he was with the Giants, and then last year I think Bears ended up with the Bears and he didn't get to play much at all. He's from Rolette too. You might be able to get him for a song and a dance. Let's see you

guys like I don't see you getting them for cheap right. Well, but like Landry, those guys are all still out there. I know, but I'm just wondering. Are they out there looking for big deals? Are they have to looking for one year deal? Well, I'll tell you what if. If Landry is that's a major. I'm out there and it's May first, the draft's over. Yeah, I'm still out there. Yeah, yeah, the one year deal for May that would be because

he's last week. You know, Miami was trying to trade DeVante Parker and the Cowboys made a phone call and I bet they wanted They only wanted to give up a fifth, and I think they ended up getting a third, uh for or wherever he went. H So they're still looking at the veteran wide wide receivers, but for the price that they want to pay. Okay, not a long term deal for some guys. We're not gonna try and tabuild down. Then we're gonna let them well wide receiver

wide receivers the first guy. Okay, because wide receivers the first guy. Um, if if all things mean, if all those guys are available, if all those guys are available for me, I'll probably would take the wide receiver first, and they would be although that if Jordan Davis is there, that would he's Michael Parsons to me. Yeah, from what I say, even though he's not a three down player, right, but he doesn't have to be a three young player.

He frees up Michael Parsons to make plays. He would he would be so good on first and second that when they got so you're happy with him being in the middle, Oh yeah, and putting Parsons on this on the end. No, No, you're talking that did the nocacle? Oh Ordon Davis? Now, But to your point, Nikobe Dean is the linebacker, yes, and he frees up Michael Parsons student.

Now you can play him both at linebacker or yeah, Nikoby Deane is okay, yes, and um, you can play him at linebacker, and then Parsons can is freed up to play on the edge if that's what you wanted to do certain plays. I mean, he can go from play to play. And I still think they'll do that regardless with vander Esh and if Jabril Cox can play. But again that's a big if on Jabil because jibro Cox is not the same type line right he is.

He's a nickel wife, Yeah, he's not, right, yeah. So yeah, and if you get a true guy in the middle, and that's why they they signed vander Esh to the contract to let him play middle, so you can put Parsons at week or strong or whatever you want to do with him and move him around. So yeah, and and and so that's the beauty of what this draft is for the Cowboys because they've got these needs, right, and they've got needs that you can qualify taking in the first round. I mean, I think we've hit him.

We've hit him off again, Guys, where we failed. I know, yeah, where we failed was on the offensive line, and that has got to be addressed, and not in a casual manner. It needs to be somewhere. If they ain't, the top needs to be. You say, that's that's just, and I'll pete what I said last week about if you look at where the money's going in the NFL, and now we found another quarterback to go into the top five, but pass quarterback. The next amount of money being spent

is on wide receivers. And there's a reason for that because they do make a difference in the game. And I'm with you, you got to fortify that line. Can I get Can I get a starting guard in the second round or third round? And they've tried now. Connor Williams was fine until he started getting called for holding, right. I never thought he was fine. Well, I think he was good enough. He wasn't Larry Allen, right, okay, And Larry Allen, by the way, was found in the second round.

He was Sonoma State, all right, which good story on him. So when we did a big documentary on Larry, when we went to California and we went to San Louis Obispo, his head coach from Sonoma State was the head coach there now, and he said yeah, he said, I had this assistant coach and he kept telling me about this Larry Allen, this Larry Allen, you got to give him

a scholarship. And he goes, okay, bring him in. So they bring Larry Allen in to the gym and Larry shows up with a all white warm up suit, right, and and the assistant coach kept telling the head coach and by the way, this guy's a good basketball player. So Larry shows up at his what six three let me guess he had to dip in his mouth too. I can't get that out of my head. He shows up at six three three twenty five or whatever he was, and he said, okay, Larry, you know, coach doesn't believe me,

but he says, you know, you can dunk. And they gave him the basketball. They were in the gym and he stood underneath the basket with no warm up, no running start, jumps and dugs the ball and the head coach goes, he's got a scholarship. Yes, they have the

same They have that same story about Nate Newton. They said the family he could he could duck the basketball and to me, that's just amazing, right, just the athletes that these guys would and then they go to these small schools and you wonder like, what were you guys looking at a foal? Yeah, and it wasn't believed, Nate, I wasn't believe it was by the way, Nate didn't tell me that story. Nate did not tell me that story. Okay, these are other family players that told me that story.

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for you. Seemore do more and breaking news, the Cowboys have informed punter hunter Nice Wander they are waiving him on Thursday, according to Michael Gillikin of the Dallas Morning News. Well, which means he's healthy. Now. Remember they put him on fully recovered from the back injury so they don't have to pay him any injuries settlement. So they hung on

to him until he got there. Yeah, he was trying to remember before he was the year before, right, and he he came in when Zerline got hurt or what happened, and he ended up kicking. In twenty twenty, he appeared in eight games and punted twenty six times forty seven yard average. He was he had ten kicks inside the twenty yeah that year, so it was pretty good. Yes, yeah, it's unfortunate now they're paying Anger. Anger is better big money.

At least he had a better year last year. But if you look at his contract, it's it's basically a one year deal and the guarantees are like maybe four million. They can get out of it for less than one hundred, I mean less than a million after one year. But it's a three year, nine nine million dollars. So he was with the Cowboys in camp and then he suffered the back injury and was placed on IR for the entire season, and then had the best season of his career. Right, So,

are we're going to let him stay in? Kick angers? Hunter? No? No? Hunter? Nice wanders out? Yeah, all right, So what are you thinking about kicker? Then? Kicker is a need so first round. As a matter of fact, when Stephen Jones was asked, he's the best athlete, best athlete available. That ain't gonna happen with the best athlete available, right, Hey man, he may be a rugby type guy he could even play. It was the guy they drafted that year. Uh was it a seventh rone pick or he had played special

teams back in the two thousands. What's his name, David Bieler? Was it Beeler the athlete? Yeah, it was Beeler. Yeah, yeah, because because they said, oh he's draft and he could also play special teams for us, and he had his home John Phillips the tied end were the only thing they got out of those picks that you talk about a dirty dozen, that was a dirty dozen draft picks. So, kicker, all they got right now is uh nigger? Is that

how he's saying? The guy he kicked at SMU one year he was a punter and then he ended up kicking uh and and so. But other than that, I mean they got to go and find a veteran kicker to come in and at least compete with him. And you're going, I'm going with Chris nagar in a gg R. But I don't know how to pronounce okay and and that's all they had to care for that name. Yeah, I know That's why I hesitated. Um. I didn't want

to get myself in trouble right and have to apologize. Um, but if you look at veteran and Stephen said, they asked him the question at the owners meeting, what do you need to do to shore up your roster so you don't have to reach in the draft. And the first thing he said was, well, we need a kicker, meaning a veteran kicker. Well, I looked at the available veteran kickers out there, and stop me when one of the names stop you, Michael Badgeley, Sam Thicking, Matt Amondola,

any of that gets you excited. And I asked somebody about those guys and they said, yeah, there are those guys that you know what, Yeah, every week and every year it's like a one year deal and then they move on and you got to find somebody else. Uh. Badgeley probably was the best of the group. Uh. He was a free agent kicker from Miami. UH. He ended up in his career making seventy of eighty seven UH field goals, so he did a pretty good job. The

other guys were, you know, just guys. Matt Amondola was from Oklahoma State. He kicked eleven games for the Jets. UH. And then the Jets signed Zerline this year, so um, it's it's a pretty uh slim group. Uh. And then when I looked at the guys that were listed as some of the top guys kickers in the draft, Cameron Dicker from Texas, Dicker the kicker, Dicker the kicker, they just stood. Cowboys just waved Hunter the punter, and so now they can go draft Dicker the kiss. Last year

he was thirteen of fifteen. He made twelve of thirteen from twenty to fifty. So to me, that's your money kicks, right, Whatever you make fifty plus is great, but you got to make the ones from twenty to fifty. And then at LSU, Cade York, who's from Prosper. Prosper right up the toll, so they should know all about him. His last two years at LSU, he kicked all four last two years, he was thirty three of thirty nine and he made five of seven fifty plush with a long

of fifty six. Nice. So you know you're gonna mention the other guy, Gay Gabe B. Listen to what you said, Gabe B. Listen right, listening, listening still, I'm double. You know where is he from? Oklahoma? He's from Oklahoma. Everson. Oh, yeah, come on that he's here. Let's go. He was twenty of twenty six the last two years, so he improved as he went along, fifty seven of sixty nine for his career. When you go back to lsu Kde York, this guy's kicking off of grass at home. Natural grass. Yeah,

it's pretty good. So it's the Norman guy who Burketoh was he was? He kicking at what the school is? Oh? You didn't listen to Oklahoma? Did not like? No, he's not kicking off of grass. They have grass? Uh huh, yeahn't know that. I thought that was turf. So which one do you like? He probably kicked off turf at prosper who had. I tell you what, when you go to Oklahoma, the wind is blowing there, sweeping down the plane, so you don't get that. In bad roods, you had nothing.

We bragged about the four or fifth round picks. Would you use a fifth? Well, Dane Brugler has Cade York his number one rated kicker, and he has a grade of a fifth or sixth round pick on him. He Gabe Burkitch is his number two, sixth or seventh round grade and Cameron dicker, the kicker, seventh round grade out of Texas. If you're kicking, I gotta say, if you if you use all of those everything being equal, then you start looking at you know, the weather, the field

and all of that. It's tough kicking in Oklahoma. I wonder where that wind is blowing all. So you're gonna have to help me with this. The kicker. It was the rookie from Cincinnati. Um, yeah, I was fifth round pick. Fifth is that what he was? Okay? And he was awfully good, Yes he was, he was. He was. He was stella. So to me, to me, when we hit training camp, you're McPherson, you're gonna have Nagar, you're gonna have a veteran guy you signed on a one year deal,

and you're gonna have a fifth round pick. And let's compete. And we'll be sitting there watching practices underneath the gold posts, looking at every kickoff or kick competition they have. They usually give them all six and everybody's gonna get six and how many can make. But that's what's gonna happen. I like the Oklahoma guy, I really do, simply just the conditions themselves, potential conditions Klanna sways me a little

bit until its sales in his favor. Plus, they scored a lot of points in his career there, and so he's got a lot of experience kicking, does he does? He have a lot of how far LSU the Kade York he was with Joe Joe Burrows team and they scored a whole munch and most of those came against Oklahoma. And and I think he was I think he was nearly perfect on his extra points. Well, ah, that's a big thing. And you also got to look at kickoff Yeah, but they're extra points are not No, no, you better

be nearly perfect. Yeah. Uh. And then you got to look at kickoffs too, you know, can you get the ball in the end. I'm waiting on Build to come with some information. He's strolling over here. I'm just looking up I thought you were gonna be. I was on the Sooner website looking up Gabe Burkitch. I wanted to see how many how many kicks does he have versus the guy down of the LSU. Yeah it was I thought Mickey gave that to us. I didn't pass him.

I didn't give you a birr No. No, he was fifty seven of sixty nine, right now, burkitch In two, I was nineteen, was seventeen for seventeen on field goals. That's when I liked him. He was twenty of twenty six in twenty twenty, and he was twenty of twenty six and twenty one and he missed an extra point one extra point in his career one hundred and fifty nine out of one hundred and sixty. All right, so there's possibility. Do you have a point after touchdowns for York?

And I didn't write them? Okay, sorry, all right? PTS not impressed. Still, well, it doesn't matter because the college extra point is not and you looking up what is what's he kicking from thirty to thirty five? What are they doing from thirty to thirty five? Right, that's what you want to see. That's the stat because that's going to be there. And that's when I wrote down on Dickery, he was twelve or thirteen between twenty and forty nine point right. And the thing you liked about York he

was five of seven from fifty plus. So he's got the late, he's got the lake. And if you can do that, then your kickoffs are probably pretty good too, all right, but it's a need looking ahead next Thursday. And by the way, I need a bill out early now, y'all you want you two want to take it to the take it go. I have to go do a zoom with Dane Brugler, which you'll be able to see the contents of that zoom on CBS eleven on Sunday night,

and let him know that we gave him shot. Like he didn't get enough pub on Dallas Cowboys dot com. He got a mix shot um. All right. So next week, though, there will be a week out from the draft, and I assume on draft Day we won't have a show in the morning on Draft Day or I don't know. I'm just can you do it? I can do it. I can do it, Okay, all right, I don't give it the powers that be. Well, we have to have Chris if he can do it, that's right. He's gonna

be working untill in the morning, all right. So y'all keep going, and I'm gonna give my stuff and I've got to set up from my zoom, all right. Keep talking about we're gonna have to make We're gonna have make rent right here, and then we'll just rant on our have Everson talked about it all his homework over there. Still got still got stuff for you, baby. I want to know what Philly's doing. You know what they're gonna

do with Jalen Hurts. We're gonna command is gonna do We gonna play them, well, command is gonna do with with Uh WinCE, They're gonna play them w I E n C w C you WinCE when you watch? All right, So, since I've got a list here, Um, this was the list from Bucky Brooks as the top wide receivers in the draft. Okay, Uh, First, he had Drake London from Southern cal Second, and I was a little bit surprised by this one. Uh Jameson will Williams from Alabama who's

coming off a torn acl Yeah, championship him. I do too. But would you take him with a first round pick? Yes? That high? If he's there at twenty four, you might be able to qualify it, right because he's probably not ready to play, is he? You're gonna pay Michael Gallipo guys not ready to play? You want both of them not ready to play. It's the potential. He's young, guys,

he caught up in September of twenty twenty two. You need to think about the next five years, right, man, there's a stud that's why they were going out, that he was killing it before you got hurt. All right. I don't want to hear any complaints that the Cowboys always take somebody that's hurt. And now Jay because he's available, Okay, he had him second. Garrett Wilson of Ohio State was third. Um uh, Jake Jason Dotson Okay, Penn State, Penn State. Yes,

Chris Olive, Ohio State. And then after that they had trailing Burks from what they thought maybe or maybe not. Yeah, they had Burke's next, and then John Metchi from Alabama. He heard it. He hurt himself too. Metchi got hurt, yes, he did. Matchi got hit u and then George Pickens of Georgia. So those were his top. So I don't know if all those guys are first round. I think the first five I gave you were figured to be

first round. Then the other guys you might be able to get late in the first round or at some point in the second round. And at that point when you're looking at wide receivers, it all depends on the system that you go to, right and the type. Yeah, because yes, they all fit different things. Right, you got was a bigger receiver. I don't know if he's got a lot of speed, but you know he's more athletic receiver out there. And you know there's certain teams like

the Titans, right, they love athletic wide receivers. I mean, you look at the ninetis athletic wide receivers. So if I look at Gill's top one hundred, Garrett Wilson, he had him ranked the f eighth best player in the draft. Drake London was ranked thirteenth, fourteenth right behind him Trey Lion Burkes, the kid from Arkansas. So this shows you how there's different you know, everybody looks at guys differently.

That's like if you look at Lockett, you know for Seattle, right, he wouldn't have gone and played under with Russell Wilson. Would he be as dynamic with anyone else with any other system? Not necessarily what he can't thrive in the particular system, but would it showcase his talents the way that Seattle's office did. Gill had Jameson Williams ranked twenty seventh and right behind him at twenty eight was Chris Olave. So that's kind of in the Cowboys draft wheelhouse when

they're at twenty fourth. Now he you know he wrote he recently, uh meaning Williams said he's ahead of schedule. Well, all those guys that suffered acls and or a head of schedule, that's right, that's all they're They're not going to say anything different. Their babies though, they can so much quicker and then they'll come back strong as if nothing ever happened. Let's see, and like I said, you want to know Dame Brugos ranking, I have it, okay, and I'll just get one more at thirty eight. Uh

gilhead Johan Dotson. Uh there that far down? Yeah? So um on the athletic it goes uh Wilson, Williams, London, Lave, and Burkes as first rounders and Johan Dotson as a first second rounder. So he has six basically, you know what somebody like a Dotson. He comes from a Big ten team. They throw the ball that much, right, you know, you can see him escaping from that system and just thriving in a whole other system that's going to showcase his talent, And it's almost like, what flavor do you

need because do you need an ex guy? Do you need a slot guy? Do you need a guy that can play all three? Do you need one like a Debo that can play in the backfield? Right, someone that can carry the ball the ball CD lamb this year and we've done in the past. So you want as a wide receiver now you can do so many things to impact the team other than just sitting out wide and catching flies, catching nines. And I think, if I remember correctly, Berks, I think they handed him the ball,

maybe because it says with the next closest player. I don't know. That was just they're just talking about he ran for one touchdown, so uh yeah, if you can find you can see that in him. Yeah, because he's got that kind of build and he's that fits and he's got some speed. Yes he does also, which um we could always use you can, right, you know. I mean Pollard showed how valuable he can be as a

kickoff return guys. Uh And if you're gonna start giving him more carries, which I don't know will actually happen, then you may not want him returning kickoffs. They put a young guy back there. When you look at guys like like Deebo, when you look at guys like Brown from the tightness, you know, these are the guys that if you can get those kinds, that's the ones you want. They may not be as fluid as wide receiver, but

they're good enough to go down. They make plays on the ball wherever it's thrown, and they can carry the ball as well. They can run after catch right after kid. And I would imagine that would haunt a cornerback. Yes, it does, because if you don't make that tackle it away, you might be in trouble. The battle is not done just because they caught the ball. No, right, it has

just begun. All right, Well, we were able to do our deal with Bill here for the last five minutes, and for Bill, for Everson Walls, I'm Mickey Spagnola and that was mick shots for this week. Chris Beam, thanks a lot for your help, and we'll be back next Thursday on Dallas Cowboys dot Com. Go Cowboys. This has been a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club.