Mick Shots: Draft Intensive

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we are. Man, there's a bunch of guys around here. Man, we'ren't not that vain. So yeah, to talk about on this edition to Mix show, I think we got a bunch of you played the draft, some of the picks. What you like, what you didn't like? Let you know how let you know how bad my pick was with the Cowboys. Well we found out a little more about that. It wasn't that you had a bad pick. There he had an issue apparently. Yeah, that made him had a

medical issue. Yeah, a medical issue that apparently. Who did he go to Cleveland? Yes, I believe so, Yes he did Cleveland. They got to the bottom of it and he got cleared in time to be drafted in the second round. You know, of course we're caught talking about jok Jeremiah Usu Coromoau and as we go forth in the career of one Kelvin Joseph, the Cowboys second round pick, the cornerback, will be also charting what jok does with the Cleveland Browns in his career. That's one of the

great things. Well he should do. Well, that's a nice young team there. I think he'll fit in real good. Then, yeah, Hill, and we'll get rid of the elephant in the room right now, because Mike pick was their pick about that. In fact, in fact, Mickey ever since he saw that first Highlight film, Mickey, because he's so busy during the season, doesn't look at any of these guys. And I was kind of like that this year. The college season was so disjointed that I wasn't paying that close of attention.

And so as soon as as soon as the Cowboys season was over, I think Mickey got on YouTube and that he had heard about this Michael Parsons character and he said he immediately said, well, I got my pick for the Cowboys sure enough. Yeah, I wanted to see somebody else that showed up better than this guy, because he was the best defensive player in the draft and

most versatile. You know, they keep showing the uh, the highlights from this this Memphis game at AT and T Stadium the Cotton Bowl, Right, but I saw highlights against other teams, like the Big ten teams, and he's just so instinctive and so versatile and so big and fast flooding, and it's like he had fourteen tackles in that game,

two for losses. He had a couple of sacks, he had a forced fumble, a pass broken up, and they still score thirty some points, I guess and stated they really, Yeah, it was like a fifty three thirty nine game or something like that. Fifty three. I mean if you look at all of his games, they all look just like this, right, I mean they all look like this. To where he's making tackles for losses, it seems as if he intimidates the opponent as he approaches them, because his aggressiveness is

so quick. It's so fast, it's in your face and before you know it, you know, you're like a deer in headlights and they just stand there and he takes them down so quickly. It's not like he hash he sizes them up or anything like that. No, he goes directly for it. He's heat seeking. I think he said, did the water boy, Yeah, seaball go to ball and something like that, and that's pretty much how he does it.

He looks like water boy out there, and I'll tell you what, when you see him in person, he doesn't look that big. But they he measured six to three and a half two forty six and three six. Yeah, and see that's where it comes from that not only does he have speed, it's controlled speed. It's not like he's just out of control. They had a lot of criticism about j Ok in regards that in space sometimes he is out of control. He's going so fast for

it that he misses a lot of tackles. Parsons doesn't necessarily have that critique because he's more of a sure tackler and he approaches at just the right angle and he approaches it quickly. And that's what I like about Yeah. And I didn't know if he was that instinctive or if he prepared so well that he was seeing in things ahead of time. And I think the answer I got was he's pretty instinctive, which is a good trade, right, uh. And I thought he handled himself well. And the press

conference hit seems to have a nice personality. Sound like he was pretty family. Pretty funny about the family. Yeah, they can move here, but they didn't get in my address. And they're all cowboy fans bugging the heck out Jammy Jones. I'm sure they came in here, a dad and one of his brothers, and they were walking through like they owned the place. Do an interview. Hey, this is where

we belong. We've been like they could see this a long time ago, uh, in the in the future, because they were cowboy fans all the way living in Pennsylvania. That's true cowboy fans. When you're cowboy fans in Pennsylvania. Yeah, absolutely so. Uh, you know everybody I know, everybody wanted a corner. I get it. They were gone. And I heard somebody say, oh when the two corners went, the

cowboys just got discombobulated. They did not They had planned ahead what was going to take place if the two corners had been gone, And Stephen Jones talked about it, how they went through scenarios. If they're gone, then what are we gonna do? They and they knew what they were going to do. They were so prepared that they were able to trade down and pick up an extra third round pick and still get their guy because they were they were prepared enough to know what the Giants

were looking for. What the Giants roster looked like. They have a middle linebacker. They're not going to be interested in Parsons. They need to improve their offense, which is what that they've wind up trading down and they picked up a future first round pick. They got Kadarius Tony at number twenty, a wide receiver, and then they knew the Eagles were coming up for a wide receiver because

they were desperate for a wide receiver. And they knew that if with Davante Smith, you know he was, he was going to either play for the Giants or the Eagles. So yeah, exactly, And that's why this this whole thing

is so nineteen eighties. Oh, you traded with a team from the NFC East, and you gave them divine and as one of the two was gonna get as Davante Smith, And as it turned out, the Eagles were gonna get Davante Smith because the Bears were still going to trade up with the Giants and they were going to trade down because they were offering a first round to pick.

And I think that and I'm sure the Cowboys had that same offer from the Bears, but I think it was prudent on the Cowboys part to go ahead and get Michael Parsons because you're trading down to twenty and you're not getting the same type player. And then this notion that they should have traded up, Well, the two teams behead them. That's who they were gonna take. They're not going to trade with you because you gotta come clean and say, okay, what do you want. Oh, that's

who we're taking. We're not interested. So you couldn't trade up with any either of those two teams, and probably to go above both of them, you were going to give up a third round pick, if not more right, I wouldn't be surprised as a second round pick. Yeah, just like you did when you went up for to get mole Born. I just I just wasn't in the in the same area code. In regards to drafting a cornerback, I would have been pretty upset. It would have been

another insurrection at a Star. That would have been a one man insurrection. I would have been up to the cornerbacks. Didn't want a cornerback. Cornerback did not want a cornerbacks. I'm sitting there with Brad Sham. I was at a draft party. I'm sitting there with Brad Sham. Hadn't seen in a while, so great to talk to him. And of course, you know Brad, he's kind of like Spags. I mean, you've seen so much, you know what I mean, You're not gonna be surprised by anything. As much as

he wanted Parsons, just like you wanted Parsons. He was pretty realistic about the Cowboys might take Slater, you know, when it was left there, He's like, well, we might take Slater, and I'm just I mean, like, man, why would we take Slater? We need somebody to stop him. Slater can't stop the run. And of course he's being you know, just being like like like you guys, you know, very very matter of fact about it, and I was not. I would not have been happy if we would have

chosen or ten. I just wouldn't the corner the cornerback now would not be having or or or the offensive. That's not what we needed. This is what we needed. This is the kind of guy we need on this team. Let's face it, quarterback is always the leader of the team. But mostly the leader of the offense. A good strong uh, just a capable middle linebacker that's the leader of the defense. Well in making you hit on it, in the way he handled himself at the press conference and so forth.

He just has a confident swagger about him. You know, he walks into the room and you can tell that he's not you know, in his interviews he's not real outspoken, but just watching him converse with people, he was kind of like that. He was kind of the alpha personality in the room when he when he walked in, and I want somebody like that. I can see it taking it to the nth degree. When he's in the locker room.

You know, he's gonna be walking in that locker room and you're gonna you know, oh, that's the first round draft pick. That just walk and you're gonna know that's the middle linebacker. That's what you're gonna know, because he's not gonna be sitting there talking back about being in a zen moment after a game after we got run off of like three hundred plus yards, you know, talking about where he is in life and the cosmos and all that. No, I want to dude, and this this

is just me. I like middle linebackers who are intelligence and instinctive. But I don't want to be too smart, you know, I want to I want to be you know. I just wanted to be able to say, look, I'm hey, go run through that wall. All right, I'm gonna run through that wall. I don't want to be like, well let me see what what material is that? No, I don't know if I want to know. I want a guy that's gonna be like, you know what, don't ask me to do it. I'm gonna do it, and I

want you guys to follow me. That's to kind of dude he is, you know what he's gonna He's gonna be the best interview on the team too. Yeah. Absolutely, you gotta watch the PRP. They're gonna have to watch what he says sometimes because he keeps it real. I mean, he doesn't put on any airs when he when he talks, you know, he but he he says whatever's on his mind. And that's that's that's they need that. They need it. It's almost like you know how a quarterback usually everybody

kind of gravitates. They're gonna gravitate to this. That's what I'm talking right, they will gravitate and we're gonna be apologizing for him. I'd love to do that, just apologize focus he's gonna say something crazy, I'm gonna do something crazy. I love it. That's what and the beauty of his he's versatile. So you know, they've talked about him being like a designated pass rusher too. So if you got multiple linebackers on the field, you don't know what that

guy's responsibility is gonna be. He can drop into coverage, he can rush the quarterback, he can spy the quarterback, you know, and and if it's a passing down, he can still play the run. Right. Hey, you heard dan Quinn, right, he heard him talk about we're gonna We're not a three four, but we're gonna it's gonna look look at times, will look like a three four. They can have a

package out there, even in their base defense. They could have a package out there with the skill set that both these rookie linebackers have, Jail Cox as well as Michael Parsons, where you can have all four of those linebackers on the field at the same time. I mean, Parsons could play any linebacker spot. Jabril Cox he's he is best on the outside, okays me and Jail Okay, Okay, So you could have you could run a three four

and have Layton and Jaylen in the middle. Or you can have Lton, Layton and Parsons in the middle and you can have Jaalen on one side and Cox on the other side. You really could. That might mean the best defense they put out there. And then and then just keep Layton Vanderish healthy. Yeah, and this will be the best linebacking corps they've had as a group in quite some time. And and and everybody said, well, linebacker gonna win a game for you. These guys can win

a game from the linebacker position. Of course you can't. And and and you know, and hopefully that the dump truck that they drafted to play the nose tackle at three hundred and thirty pounds Bohannah keeps some people off of those guys. That's what Randy White has always said, because for years they did uh pregame show on CBS eleven with the Manster, and he always said, what we

need is that big bazooka in the middle. I don't understand why we don't get that big bazooka in him in the middle, and they got the big bazook That's what he Quinton Bohan, is there a big bazooka in the middle. Hopefully he can play right? Yeah, well, no being big. I think he just hasked to stand just stand there. Did you question? Did you did you? I

thought they were getting that with Don Perry Poe. Did you catch what Quinn had to say about him when he talked about him Saturday night when he came in for his interview and they asked somebody asked him about that. He goes, yeah, he goes, you know, and I think the guy can, we can He's versa put him on the edge, and there was this silence. He goes, okay, kiddy.

He he goes, he's a nose tacker, and he goes, sometimes he's gonna play right here, meaning over the center, and he said, are the times he's gonna play right here right? You know? And then the good thing is is they did draft a couple of guys to play inside, veteran guys that can hold down the fort and maybe till some of these young guys are ready to go uh and but not at linebacker, because this guy is gonna be ready to go. Uh and and and and

I'll tell you what. And even I saw Rich Dalrymple Cowboys pr director was taking him somewhere I don't know, and I was walking behind him, and and it was like he was talking to Rich like they had been best friends, like you know they It just came so easy to him. Um So, yeah, can't wait to get well.

And you look back in his history. I know we've we've said ever since Jalen's been here, because he's he's a player that's best going forward that okay rushing you know, play him at rush in and they've used him on the line at times a lot of times, like as an inside rusher or whatever, but he hasn't worked at it. He's not you know, Parsons has it in his background, that's an edge rusher, going back to eighth grade, well even before eighth grade, probably defense a difference of exactly.

And when he went to Penn State, they recruited him and he thought he was going to be an edge rusher and then moved him to linebacker. Everson, remember what you were doing in eighth grade? Really, I don't think I think I was at Richardson Junior High which does not exist anymore, and you weren't, and but you it fed into Burtner High School. Yes, Okay, Now, in Texas,

an eighth grader can't play varsity football. But if but if if an eighth wanted me, but I was My mom said, though, Hey, if an eighth grader could play varsity football in Texas, would you have played on the varsity? What what level would you have played on? Asn't if I just considered if they considered me playing varsity, I'm playing varsity. You would love to play varsity? Would want to play varsity? I mean, would they would? Would you have made the varsity if they considered me on a

confident he'd have been playing? Yeah, play varsity basketball, definitely, that would have been. Michael Parsons started on the varsity as an eighth grader in Pennsylvania. You're lying, No, he started on the varsity. He put up big numbers. He had as a freshman in high school, he had like eighteen and a half sacks. And then he transferred to Harrisburg High School, one of the high school man and then by the time he was a senior, he was a running back and a Defenson saw that so nobody

wanted to tackle it. Yeah, running back. He's my personal protector on the punt team because we're gonna snap him the ball. Interesting interested, don't don't. Don't start being SPACs, like like the NFL doesn't know that Fossils got that. He never runs trick play on no, never, never ever. Yeah, we need to slow Fossils down. We need to slow him down the U Okay, we'll move on in their next segment. We'll move on to the second round pick.

And I want to get the cornerback. Talking about the cornerback there, but how about the way the draft started and with the third pick Trey Lance going to San Francisco. Yeah, I wasn't sure they were going there. I thought they had moved up for me. And that's whatever everyone thought, Matt Jon because they didn't let they didn't let anybody in their organization know that it was gonna be Trey Lance. Yeah. That is an extremely risky pick, you know, but I love it. I love it though how much it cost

him up to get him? Yeah, I mean and the first round draft picks and a third or whatever this year and then next year three Yeah, he hadn't four hundred passes are not three out three hundred and eighteen passes in his career and now he's awfully bad, awfully athletic though when I saw his OA, but my goodness. But the reason I love it is because Kyle Shanahan

and John Lynch. Shanahan had the conviction that this guy is my guy and they don't care what any of the so called experts are saying about it, or anybody else in the league are saying about it. This is my guy and he's only twenty years old. He doesn't have to play this year. Patrick Mahomes didn't play his rookie year. I've got a quarterback in Garoppolo that's taking our team to the super Bowl. But it's worth this investment. I believe in this guy so much that and I

heard interview with John Lynch and Shanahan. They were, uh, you know, back in January. Shanahan a late at night called Lynch and said, I'm just mesmerized by this personality.

Is amazing. Yeah, no, he gives a great interview. Yeah, I mean, but he was talking about the film that he's watching up and so Lynch said he stayed up till two thirty in the morning watching him, and that's when they knew they had their guy that was back in January, and of course you knew they had someone that they had pegged to give up that much that

I'll just take somebody. Yeah, right again, Hey, And before we go to break, since we were on the linebackers, let's just clear up this notion that the Cowboys didn't pick up Layton Vandersh's fifth year option because they drafted these other lightenbackers Parsons and Jabril Cox and there next year they're not going to need Layton Vanderish. They didn't

pick up the option because of the salary cap. They were trying to negotiate an extension to decrease his cap hit next year, which is nine point one million guaranteed, and they felt like, not knowing what the CAP's going to be, not knowing what the revenue this year and the NFL is going to be, with how many people are going to be allowed to go to games, you just couldn't afford nine million dollars at that one position

at linebacker. So they'll continue, and Steven said it, they'll continue to try to sign him to an extension to lower what that cap hit is next year they want Layton Vanders on this team. They want on As Steven said, I want him here for four or five more years. But we got to be smart on how we structure the contract. So that's why it wasn't picked up. It didn't have anything to do with who they drafted or

Layton isn't good enough. And then the other safety thing they probably wanted to do is put some roster bonus or not roster bonus per game bonuses in there because of his injury history, and you can still earn the money, but you got to be on the field. So I right the way, I'm thinking, Okay, we drafted all these linebackers and no telling what we signed. Yeah, afterwards, I thought he was out, considering his injuries and things of that nature. I thought that the Cowboys had washed the

hands of him. I mean, I'm kind of glad to hear that that they haven't, because of course he's an amazing player. I've noted to you guys, just worried about that that injury. Worried about the neck injury. I know they say it's no big deal, but you know, being a linebacker, uh and and you know all the hits he's gonna make I was very concerned, and I thought they were so concerned that they just said, you know, we're not gonna be And you know, he played last year.

The neck wasn't a problem. And I would have thought the problem would have been i'na stick my neck in there to make a tack, right am, I putting my head in with my helmet. And he really didn't have that problem. The problem was he broke his collar bone. Uh. And he didn't have an offseason. Right. He was able to rehab coming back from the from the next surgery. But then you missed the first game, the first game.

It was the first series, I think. And now you're out four or five weeks and now and you're switching positions from outside the inside. And I just thought towards the end he was starting to get his sea legs under him and then he did the ankle thing. Uh. So Uh to me, he's the best linebacker on the team, you know, And I know Parsons was really good, but we ain't seen it seen that. No, Right, that's the truth.

That's the true statement. And this other sumption, and Bill will go to the rest of the draft, is that the Cowboys fix their defense by taking eight guys, well, all eight aren't going to make this team. I'll guarantee you that. Uh. And you would want them to, but it's probably not going to happen. And they're not all going to go out there and play right away either. And they're not all going to go out there and play well right away. Play rookies. Not every rookie goes

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you need to send them. Almost got grand kids that are getting to be that age. The oldest grand kid is four, So I was asking the other day when can we start playing some games so I can go watch and play. They started probably earlier than four, but he hadn't started yet. All right, we continue on here. It is great that they've got the camps back you know, I was as an aside. I was. The Rangers played

the Red Sox on Saturday. They had thirty five thousand fans in the stands, and I tuned in the Red Sox announcers on the game, and the Red Sox announcers could not believe that there were thirty five Welcome to Texas. Thing boy. They were saying, well, the Red Sox are getting beat and he was eight to six or something, and Dak was at the game, and uh Dak looked

like he was having a good time. Um, And they the Red Sox announcers not only sounded defeated because the Red Sox are getting defeated, but they really sounded defeated that there were thirty five thousand fans in the stands. And Partner, I don't see very many masks. No, no, they keep saying, yeah, mask of mandated. That makes no sense. I could always say, well I have a beard. I did walk a man with a beard, huh and no mask.

Well you heard what happened. You heard what happened the opener right when they had thirty eight thousand there, And I saw the story twice some guy bought a hot dog and he held it in his hand for nine inns to make sure if the if the ushers came by to give me a break. All right, let's move to the second round of the draft and the with the forty fourth pick, the Dallas Cowboys select Kelvin Joseph

cornerback from Kentucky. First off, Mickey, do you think that the Cowboys were trying to trade up in the second round, maybe package that extra third round pick that they got in the trade with the Eagles to try to move up to get a different cornerback. Yes, I think they were.

Unfortunately that cornerback went first to Jai to Jacksonville, so you couldn't have made the trade with Jacksonville, right, And I think they were trying to do something with the Jets at the second spot, and they just there was no sense doing it when Tyson Campbell went after Campbell and then I think they were trying again to get up and unfortunately Atlanta wanted Richie Grant, the safety from Central Florida, so it wasn't from a lack of trying.

And then they might have I don't know if they would have taken the safety in the in the in the second round that high at eleven or at twelve. But Las Vegas took care of that, right, they took how do I say it? Morick? Yeah, So those guys went off the board, and it's like, okay, so the best uh corner remaining that fit their needs. I know everybody talked about Asante Samuel, but they didn't want a short corner. Uh so clearly right at the other corners

that they took. So they it's like, okay, the most value, you know, the most talented corner is Kelvin Joseph. Now have we vetted him well enough to take care of our concerns about his character to make sure it's worth taking him at that spot? All right, mister cornerback, what do you think of Kelvin Joseph? Oh? I like the pick? I really did. I mean when you're looking at h Traving Merrick being being taken. First of all, you can't have two Travons on the team. That's just one coin

on one side one the other. That's just it. But this guy here is very interesting, very interesting young man. You're talking about vatting him. He's very how can I put it? Diverse? He has four albums. Have you listened to any of his work. I have not listened to his work, but dude, you gotta play some ball here. You're not you're not into boss man, I'm not into that. I'm sorry. I haven't heard it. Yeah, man, that's why I would imagine that's why he transferred so headstrong young man,

which is good as a cornerback. That's what you gotta have. You have to be an individual that seems like what he is. And I tell you what, he's not afraid of anybody, you know, and most cornerbacks will say that. But he has gone up against the best. He's going up against high trophy guys. He's going to get against guy that at Alabama he's going up against. He's in the SEC, which has some of the best wide receivers

in the country, and he has held his own. He's got like I think of five picks, yeahs years last year. He does very well on the knockdowns. His coverage is good. Dude, line's like a four three four. He said, you know, obviously these proteys you got different stop watches on them, and there was there were something that had him under four three at a four two eight. I think officially they had had him down in like a four to three four. Yeah, that's that's efficial. Yeah yeah, yeah, so

that's the average. Yeah right. I mean this is that you just have to give that guy some kind of love. Like I said, he's not afraid of anybody. And that's what I like about guys like that. You're talking about side. He's only five eleven, you know, which you know, he's not a Sante saus junior. But I'm looking at a guy a little bit shorter than me, and they've got even five eleven and a half. So I say six

feet there. I know that, and we can give him two hundred pounds okay here, it depends on where he had to eat that next time. So now I think that's a good pick. You need a guy who's been through the SEC with some of the best wide receivers

in the country. Uh, he's always played man the man Kentucky had a great defense, I thought when the NCC is SEC in regards to how they played, and so he played with a good team, he played with a good unit, played for I thought, a good coach, and you know, I think he's gonna do well here with us. They just I like a guy like that who has like I said, just like the linebacker. I like a guy like that who has some type of individuality. He's not just going to toe the line, because at cornerback,

you gotta do what you gotta do out there. You know, you talk about having help and things of that nature, and you only hear your name called when you get beat. This guy right here, he has that mentality to whether you know what they're gonna call my name and not just for getting beat. I'm gonna be making play. Does it concern you He started his career at LSU suspended for the bowl game and then transferred to Florida. Yeah. Yeah, you may take Kentucky. No, no, he drafted Kentucky. But

you know, guys have their problems. They just better make sure somebody gets with him and gets his priority because if that, if that doesn't happen in his career. And let's say he had the same kind of season at LSU, yeah,

that he had this year at Kentucky. He's a first round He's up there in the in the same equation with with the other corners at the top of the draft, don't you think, and I mean from a talent standpoint, and if you think about it, all issues, not like the most strict place in the world, and they basically, I think gave him an That's that's the concern there. Yeah, and so that's the concern that And Okay, it's great that you, you know, think you have a rapping career,

but football is gonna pay the bill. Right, You're probably not going to make the money that you're gonna make in football, So he needs to understand his priority. Mike Stoops was really mark stoop Suck was mad at him because he opted out the last two games of the season and didn't have anything nice to say about him. But then after the pro day he basically went on record and pointed out that this is one of the most talented corners in the draft and he can have

a long career in the NFL. Now, just got to keep himselves straight. And you know, the thing about playing in college, you know, he wasn't looking at getting a degree, so you know, he was making moves that he thought were just good for his own future. But now that your future is here, your future is now. He's got to realize that, you know, he can do whatever he wants in the offseason or whatever that doesn't interfere with his offseason work. But this is the time now, no

distractions with pandemics and things that nature. It's time to come here and play football just the way we No more opting out. You can't opt out of anything. But let's face it, guys, when you opt out your last two games the way it was with the pandemic, to me, it's no different. And then opting out of a mid level bowl game, and that's what a lot of guys did too. Right, It's like I got to protect my father career and that part I wouldn't put against him as long as he will that he did at the

lsu H, No more of that. And you know, as far as his music career is concerned, you know that's something that of course he has to realize taking a back burning because it ain't paying. Like you're gonna get paid by Jerry. You got an extra room at your house ever since you can mentor him your guy, I'm trying to mention my son. I ain't got im down. You know how they talk about a guy that grows up in a family where the dad's the coach and

you're always talking football. We set him to ever sin right to learn how to cook because I'm tired to cook. All right. Um, there were a couple of other cornerbacks or one cornerback late the third round and then another cornerback in the seventh round. That the he's going to get shifted to safety? Who are six four in height? That the obviously linked was a big calling card. And he's skinny, skinny three or something like yeah, one three, that's crazy. I mean, he better pack them off. Maybe

he's wireya is that what it is? Skinny guy, He's not weak, he's wired. He needs to get in the training room, get them protein shakes going. And no one was happy about that pick. I mean it was because the great that well at all, that's because the experts had him as a seventh rounder. Wow, yeah, the experts did. But but if then you talk to some of those experts and uh, since they were ranking, you know, Dane Brugler,

who had does a great job. He had an unbelievable job year round studying it and you know, and Dane, you know you can you can't rank them all right, third round picks, and he had him. And what happens in that whole mock draft community is the others get into it in January, and you can't. You don't have time enough in your day to go through three hundred and fifty prospects. And so if Dane's got him ranked three hundredth or whatever, you don't get the and so

you just did you put him down? Yeah, they haven't even looked at him, don't study him. And when you look, let's just look at numbers. Here. Okay, you got four four to forty at six to four, you're on the four four fourty down. That's pretty dog gone good. And so if you're talking about being a safety, depending on what type of instincts he has, what type of recognition he has, you're talking about an extremely rangy young man

at safety. And I could see that happening. But the guy boys, so he Dane had him as the thirty eighth rank corner and man mel Kuiper had him as forty fourth. So there you go. But you know, but it put to its credit when when they he was on the draft show House Cowboys dot Com and he pointed out, he goes, won't you know sometimes I make a mistake. You know, I'm not gonna say the wrong He goes, there's only so many guys we can look at and you know, maybe I missed it. Not everybody

else would say that. It's like, oh, what are they doing? Here's why at him? And then they don't even look at him. They really don't even study this guy. And you know, I know Dane does and he might be a seventh rounder when he was on the tape from from Oregon State, but he's as a six four, one hundred and eighty three pounder. They're looking at him as a guy that they can develop what it, you know, and other teams once you get into the third or

fourth round, that's kind and that was late third. That was basically a fourth round pick. We're talking to the ninety nine pick in the draft. That's the sweet spot to pick. And the other part of it is they were probably In fact, Jerry Jones talked about this at the end of the draft on Saturday when they were on the clock at ninety nine. They had four picks or so four players that they were interested in, and Jerry said, as it turned out, we got three of

the four players whatever. So you so I would assume that your Breal Cox was probably one of those guys because he was their next pick. Maybe the Josh Ballah may have been one of the guys, and so they got fortunate where they got other guys that they were thinking about at ninety nine. And the other part of it is right goes at ninety nine and then there was like four cornerbacks that went bang bang bang bang bang.

Right after that. It was like it was like once once other team saw it, Oh wait, that guy went and nine, we better get these other guys cornerbacks and he's got a dimension. They were looking at the look exactly right, that's right, and they're looking for Richard Sherman. The kid didn't The kid didn't do his his his post, his interview after he was picked, like oh god, I'm shocked. He was like, no, I'm getting on the team right now.

He said, all right, he's a guy from Oakland, I believe the Oakland area who he went to City College in San Francisco, and then he went to College of San Mateo, and then he went to Laney College, which is the college that's being featured on what's the name of the show, um, Last Chance You, Last Chance, And in fact his brother is on that. It was on the Last Chance You show that was based at Laney College. Whatever and he's now at Oregon State also, so that's

the road he's taken to get. And then he plays for two years at Oregon State and plays well, you know. So I love guys that that just don't give up because the story's out there. They are all is as great as Michael Parson's, even Chancey Gholston or somebody like that. How about Richard Sherman. I mean Sherman went to Stanford, but he was fifth round man, and he was a fifth round draft pick, you know, and so somebody said that, no, you can't do it, you know, and by golly, he

did it. That's right. Someone told Walls he can't do it. What round did you go in? Again? I didn't. I have been born the raft for decades, and there was twelve rounds when he was man. But now let's take two days. So yeah, I wonder where where mel kiper junior head? You, Oh, don't even start. I'm so mad that the draft guys. I only got back into this because I had to do my research with from the guy wise, I never look at the draft as far as I'm concerned. Don't get me started. Cat up there.

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for details. Are we're running down this Cowboys draft, getting uh Mickey and Everson's take on the picks of the Cowboys made. And we talked about the last third round pick, the two defensive lineman that went earlier in the third round Osaza. Yeah, Chauncey Gholston from Iowa Odigga Zua, who was a three time state champion wrestler in high school heavyweight. Yeah, and was awfully good. So maybe he can wrestle well. As it looks like he's probably tackle defensive tackle, you

better be able to wrestle well. Plus he's a little bit undersized, but three technique yeah yeah, but he's still extremely active for a three technique and he talking about eleven and a half sackson. I liked the tackles for losses. That's what I look for in all of these twenty seven tackles for losses. Both of those guys had identical old numbers anything and and and that just shows initiative. You know, you're not just sitting up there waiting on

something to happen. You're being aggressive, and that's what I like about, especially from a no tackle and you're being aggressive like that, you're getting tackles for losses twenty seven and a half of them. That's a lot of it's it's it's time to get back to playing that way up front instead of playing catch, right, And they weren't playing catch last year and they didn't catch well. And he's not. He's to me, he's not. He knows he's not big enough to catch. He's only two eighty two.

Gotta go, you gotta go, and you gotta move fat, you know what I mean. So his footwork and that wrestling uh ability, I think told well for him. Inside it's like I can't remember I got a written down in here. How many bench reps six one and a half. And so he's he's a type of get up under a. He looks good, man, He looks good. Doesn't look like he had much body fat at all. For somebody two hundred eighty two pounds, that's pretty impressive. He ain't twenty

five bench reps. Yea. His older brother, oh Diggazooa was a third round pick of the Giants in twenty fifteen, and he was more of an edge guy. I think he had injuries and so he only lasted in the league a couple of years, but he was He was drafted seventy fourth by the Giants, and No Diggazoo went seventy fifth to the Cowboys. Here I saw an interview with Jim Mora junior, who was his coach at UCLA recruited him to UCLA before he was gone. And Chip Kelly came in and he's very high on a Digga Zoo.

He thinks that he's really going to have a nice career and he's and he did say, no, you don't want to play him at the nose. You want to play him. He thinks that he can develop into a three technique and you can even play him on the edge. So right, So, and then Chauncey Golston, the kid from Iowa. I mean, you look at him, and he's the Tyrone Crawford replacement. I think, what do you think? Yeah, kind of a and he defense high character guy, really highly

captain guy, you know. Yeah, and uh yeah, I thought those two picks. Uh you know, everybody two hundred and seventy pounds, it's big dude. Yeah. And then I think I think the best pick outside of Parsons, the pick I like the best in the draft, which J bro Cox, the first pick of the fourth round. I think that. I mean when you look at him, what he did in North Dakota State and then North Dakota State wasn't

going to play a season, I mean the pandemic. Yet he trains first to LSU and he does the exact same stuff at LSU that he did at North Dakota State. Here talking at that level that he didn't do this his three years he started in North Dakota State, they won the national championship. So he's got three national championships. He he was a graduate, so he could transfer and pick up a fifth year at LSU. And you know,

played well versatile there. Some people you know was like, well, you know sometimes against the run, he misses tackles and this and that. I like his versatility. Life guy. That's the word. And that's what you know. And that's the linebackers. You know it did Dick buck Kasara is over. You know, you got to be able to drop into coverage and you want linebackers that don't have to come off the field when you go in your nickel. And because teams

will say Okay, there, Nickel, Well, let's run. We'll go three rides, spread them out and see if the linebackers can do it. And again, he's another guy like Parsons that if he's on the field, is he playing the run, is he dropping into coverage? Is he blitzing? He can do with different things. And yeah, and I thought that that pick I thought made the Cowboys draft. And if that pick didn't make it, then the next guy did. The offensive tackle from Marshall Josh Ball. Okay, tell us

about Josh Ball. Well, let's let's go into it, because there was there was the asters next to his name why he had to leave Florida's State and it ended up being one of these deals where you're a young man and you got yourself into trouble with a girlfriend. Uh, there was some you know, domestic abuse there that she reported. He never got charged with anything, and you know, and everybody knows that he got suspended at Florida State, but it was by the Judiciary committee, which is the student

body committee that goes over student conduct. That yeah, and when things go wrong, so they suspended him for a year. And when it came to the legal part, I guess she filed an injunction for him to stay away, and he agreed. I think they both agreed to sign for UH the injunction to UH to stay away. And he ended up transferring to Butler Junior College in Kansas, played

a year in Florida. State wanted him back. He was starting and and the NUE and the Upper War continued, and so he thought the best thing was to move back to Virginia, closer to his parents. And he went to Marshall and all I know is I saw this stat on him that in six hundred and eighty seven college snap snaps he allowed three sacks. He's six eight three ten basically U sixty seven and three eighths. Okay, I rounded it off. I took that license rounded up.

You don't want the six eighth offensive linement though, because he's not versaal enough to play card right. He has he has thirty five thirty five inch arms. That's the key. He was got to measure mine. You know I have I need to measure my arms because I have thirty six inch sleeves. Is it the same? I don't have thirty six in a charm? So so I wonder what shirt? What's his shirt size? Does he does it thirty five? If you have thirty five inch arms, I don't know

where they measure it from. I think they measure it from like the your back, middle of your back. You mean like to show the blame. I'm not sure. So how when he buys a shirt does he have to get thirty eight inch sleeves? I don't. They don't because they don't have them. They barely have thirty six minor

like thirty three, thirty two. We could get Henry Struck down here and he measure it out every Chris Be said, we can get Henry Stroka down here and he can measure our arms and see I can run into the forty two. I don't want my hands. I guess that's all I know. I'm pretty, I'm pretty shre have. My arm is probably longer than yours. I got what size? What size shirt? Do you? I'm same as your thirty thirty six? Yeah, I guess I'm a guard. Then did do you remember what your hands measured in? I don't

even call anybody ever measuring my hands. It wasn't gambling. Man did not give it to that han people hands hands right, That's why you didn't get brought out a clock if they're to measure, they tied me by the game clock on the on the school break, So so I know, right, so I know his his his pass came up, his history came up. Obviously. I thought he answered the questions, well that you know, I'm moving forward. I've put that behind me. I wasn't gonna let that

stop me. Uh And then the Cowboys, I thought, answered it about you know, we we checked into it. It wasn't like we just dismissed it. And I think Jerry's point was, you know, I always admire somebody that gets knocked down like that, makes a mistake and then rectifies everything and changes. Uh. So we'll see. But to me, if this guy good enough to start at Florida State, you know, maybe he's good enough to step in here and challenged to be the backup swing tackle. He was

a left tackle. I'm guessing if you can play left tackle, y ought to be able to play right tackle. And if you look at the Cowboys depth chart at the tackle position, I know they signed ty Lusecki, a veteran, but this guy's like thirty five going on thirty six, local guy from arlington Ville and so you know, and then the guys that played last year, Terrence Steele, who started a bunch of games, but you know, I don't know how how well he played as an undrafted, undrafted rookie.

And then you've got Brandon Knight and Mitch Hyatt and you know none of those guys have been drafted Mickey. You know who else was good enough to start at Florida State? Who was that Cam Irving? Yes? I know, but you know what he ended up playing in the league. He was a first round draft. I mean how many years He's last year was still seven and somebody signed him to a multi year deal. Let's let's be I don't know what they were looking at. This is something

we stop. This is something that we need to be concerned about when you talk when you're talking about players that have personal issues like ball. Uh, and you're talking about this pandemic eavening. Uh. Let's just remember the last time we had the pandemic, it was what nineteen eighteen, nineteen nineteen. Then what followed that was the Roaring twenties.

Let's be clear about that. Somebody broke you know, it's going crazy, so we not even I remember that we could Polish, but we could possibly have a lot of problems off the field with a lot of players just because and of course, you know, we're just a reflection of society itself, as we have a lot of issues

in society coming off of this. I think the more issues we have from other individuals, than we're going to have these same proportion of problems in regards to the players themselves, because now we're going to be out there a lot more and they're gonna be a lot of

problems waiting on you while you're out there. So if you already have issues in the past, then you need to be very, very careful, and I think the Cowboy organization needs to be aware of that because this is going to be an unusual year coming back from last

year's dismal season. I mean, the entire NFL had a dismal season, and now all of a sudden we're facing freedom, you know, three and last, and now all of a sudden, people are going to be out there going buck wild, and you have to be under control in regards that. So you gotta watch yourself, Mickey, don't get out there going out right. They're already going wild, right, how many thousand people that have Mackey. Who's the Cowboys fourth wide receiver right now? I think that's a spot that's up

for grab. You would probably say Cedric Wilson, Yes, that's but I don't think it's solidified. Would say that. And then who you like? Who is your m who are your top three wide receivers next year? If Michael Gallup leaves in free agency, you need one, that's right, That's what one of the one of my things. You know, we're talking defense, defense, defense in this draft, and one of my things is, okay, what about wide receiver. Yeah,

wide receiver looks great. With your top three, it looks great, but there is a need you need to stay ahead

of the curve on that. And realizing that Gallup's going into his last year Cooper's contract where it is you know, at some point do you is he going to play out the entirety of the contract on a one year And Cedric Wilson's the same as Gallup, same draft, And and so I thought, as much as the we're harping on defense, defense, defense, if there was a wide receiver in the third round that you really like, I wouldn't have minded using one of those third round picks on

a wide receiver, and you can go back in history where it has affected the Cowboys, where they thought they were fine at wide receiver. I'll go back to two thousand and eight. Jordy Nelson is sitting there in the second round. Cowboys have two first round picks, Felix Jones and Mike Jenkins. Okay, to was on his last legs with the Cowboys. Whatever we're thinking, I don't need a wide receibing. Why would you take a wide receiver with

one of those late first round picks. Well, Jordy Nelson turned out pretty well that two thousand and eight season. What happens, the Cowboys wind up have a problem at wide receiver and they wind up trading for Roy Williams, giving up the two thousand and nine first round draft picks. So not only the O eight season things were catapulting, but it catapults to the nine draft. Okay, Then fast forward to twenty seventeen. Okay. In that draft, Cowboys take

Taco Charlton in the first round. They take a Cheetao Woozier in the in the second. I know they loved Juju Smith Schuster. He was in for a visit whatever, he went the pick after Cheetah, Well what happened that year? That was Dez's last year and the Cowboys then the next year they were so desperate at wide receiver they got a trade a first round draft pick to get Himari Cooper in there. My point is you have to

stay ahead of the curve on wide receiver. Hopefully Semi Fihoko in the fifth round might be able to be one of those guys who can project on down the road as being a guy you didn't You didn't like that idea that year they were going to have receiver by committee, right exactly. That's fine if the committee's good. I gotta say, guys, you know, if you don't find that third receiver who would be of the caliber of a gallop of someone like that, the tight end position

has to be very prominent, you know. It's something that needs to be very important in your game. By the way, I saw a jar one out there, he was running running. I love that to me. He was my favorite. I mean I talked about it. I keep telling everybody about Lao Collins. He does his rehab with Dak and would ever drills Dak does, not throwing because they're not throwing out here, he's doing the same, and he's moving awfully well, and he looks like he's lost some weight too, So

I think that's very encouraging. And I've been told both of those guys, Tyrn Smith and Laald Collins, that they're counting on them to be right back where they were before this. And Jarwin has running just well. And the best thing about Jarwin's injury had happened on September twelfth, right, not December twelve, you know, so by time they play a game, he'll be a full year removed. Right, And it was an a c L, Right, it was an A and usually acls, uh, they're unless now all not

all acls are the same. It's not complicated. It's not complicated. Then he should be good to go. Well, he's out there running now, so I mean he'll be able to probably take part in they have OTAs. Yeah, that can take a big load off your third receiver, it really can, right, it can take a big gallup. Was a third round pick. So this guy, I mean, if you read them and if you listen to them, none of these guys come

in here are lacking for confidence. That's true. You know where Dame Brugler head Pijoco, where as a third round Betty, the Cowboys not even the fifth round. But their Cowboys aren't being praised for that. But you know what I noticed though it locally and Cowboy fans. It's always going to be a complaint on the draft. That's just what you're supposed to do. But I saw a couple of national things that had the Cowboys in one of the best drafts among something. No doubt it's one of the

best because we answered our needs. That's the main thing. Defensive player in the man. You can't beat that. You can't beat you can. You can nitpick all you want. Somebody doesn't like Jabril Cox, Somebody didn't like somebody else, somebody doesn't like the wide receiver. You can pick it all you want. I want to see what happens in training camp. Yeah, you know, I'm sure when Buffalo signed all those great players. The players are the great right

now on the defensive line, on their defense. I'm sure someone I'm playing about one of at least one of those picks that Buffalo head. Now they've got like an amazing defensive line. So I never heard of any of them, you know, until they started kicking out butts, and I think that's the way it's going to be here until they start bawling on the field. Everybody just shut up until they until they showed me and stick those grades in your pockets. Now you go, man. That's what I

wrote today. I said, if you if you graded the Cowboys draft on the two linebackers that they ended up getting the best one in the draft in the first and Jamal Cox in the fourth, they get an A Plus's right because those guys, I mean, especially if you're playing a base three four defense. Yeah, I mean, and you don't know what those guys are doing. That's the best part of it. They're they're so versatile that you

can and that's what dan Quinn talked about, diversatility. And see that's what I was gonna say, that versatility with all the defensive players we signed, and it wasn't just not the d lineman I'm talking about, but the linebackers in the second day. If you look at that, we can disguise so many things as opposed to coming out with the defense that we had last year and we had my man Jordan Lewis, who's out there getting trucked

you know, doing the best he can on path. He's getting trucked on the run defense, he man Anthony Brown both and we've got guys get in there partles can be moved all over. You know, we've got safeties and cornerbacks now that can be intertwined. To me, I think that's the word I was gonna use. It gave us

a lot of versatility. And that's how Quinn answered my question during this press conference Saturday night when I said, you know, have you done enough in the draft and in the off season to fix what the cowboys biggest problem was last year stopping the run? And he basically said, we've got guys that we can have different packages and be versatile with our packages and fit to what the team's doing. And they'll have time in the off season

to work on it. And he even mentioned if if, if, if a team wants to play two tight ends, we should be capable of matching up. If he said, sixty percent of the time you're in nickel, we should be able to match up now. And so you know, teams are going to come out sure, have you learned your lesson? Yeah? We will see, Yeah, and they're gonna come out with the two coming out with two tight ends, and I

got a darn safety playing strong side Wabacker. You know, now I've got a at least a corner slash safety in Kean O'Neil that I could say, okay, you play that. We're not even talking about the signs we made right outside the draft. And he pointed out the ability of Carlos Watts Uh Watkins and Bret Urban, Bret Brett Urban, Uh, their ability to kind of big guys to put there in the middle. And you see uh, Tristan Hill rehabbing

moving really well after he tore his acl Uh. You know, you get him back, and Neville Gallimore with a year of experience under his And I like Kim, of course we all do. And I thought at the end of the year he had figured it out. Well, it might have took him some time. I don't know why, how they taught him, but he figured it out towards the end of the year. And he's knocked out there playing

catch anymore. You know the old what was it the old TV show that Yo Yo Renny remembered the dog you set the dog attack You're Black and White nineteen sixty Yes, absolutely, you guys, didn't watch ten. I don't know what you're talking about. Seriously, Rin Tin ten No, okay, yeah watch it. No, but you said Yo n Well Yo Renny, I never knew that. Yeah, you're too young, Yo Neville, go get him. Okay, I think we're got

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