Mick Shots: Charging Ahead

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Hello, Nate, how you guys doing?

Man?

What are you doing? Watching over there?

Just trying to be up on what's happening, and you know, trying to pre prep for these shows. Man, to make sure you know, I say a lot of wild things, and.

You will make sure that you're prepared to say those wild things.

Yes, yes, so we're going to back them up. Yeah, I'm gonna back them up all right. Yeah, my team play better. I'll be able to back them up. Yeah.

You know, a football team needs players like Nate Newton who just whenever summoned, they go right in the game. And that's what Nate Newton has done again today. And prepare we find out last minute that someone's lunching is running over or wherever Everthon is right now, and here comes Nata running to fill in.

Yeah. I was down there in the when they started this little stream or whatever they call it. I'm just waiting. I think we should get Nata. I'm here, I'm always lurking around here.

You go, right, yeah, all right, We've got a football equipment on the football field and we expect to have football players out there shortly.

Yeah, it is, and the sun has risen.

It has. Yes, it's been a beautiful week here.

I hope they can practice in the sun.

I'm with you, Mike, I'm with you, my friend. I'm just waiting on. Let's get get started. Man, where are we going with this to day? With mixed shots?

What do you have?

Somebody pointed out to me that last year Cowboys won all their home games.

Yeah, they had like a sixteen game winning streak at home before the season started the regular season.

Was the sun not out there in those games. Yeah, just asking.

You won't stop with you, mak No.

Just it just dawned on me. That's all I know.

Yeah, I mean it is what it is, Mike. Don't let it. Don't let it get you upset, man. Okay, let the outside for us is could come an issue.

Didn't matter that they missed blocks and all three of those plays on the goal line.

Let it go, make let it go, Let's move forward. We Hey, guess what, we got a new game this week? Right, let it go? Make help me out here, Bill.

And it's a team that doesn't play in the sun. It's a night it's a night game, so took care of that. Probably got no excuses see glare of the Monday night football lights instead.

That's right. I hope they don't get freaked out by National TV.

All Right, we got a quarterback undergoing surgery today in New.

York, Yes we do. And boy, and I guess it's with a specialist. Yes, I'm assuming this guy has done this surgery or doctor, I should say, a surgeon that's done this before. Yeah, I shouldn't be a sexist, right, could be a female surgeon?

Right? Yes? I mean, well, us doing the job, please do it well, and give him the right rehab program. So next year when he comes back, he's fully ready to go, and we can see him starting in OTAs.

You know that when you said, hope he does it well. The night before my dad at eighty two, had open heart surgery. The doctor came in, talked to him, any questions, and he goes, okay, see you in the morning. My dad goes, make sure you get a good night's sleep.

That's right, man, Yes, their do it right.

Make sure you do a good job. So then I would imagine this is probably takes a while before you start rehab.

I understand the medical experts that we talked to at CBS Texas yesterday.

I did somebody from San Diego.

No, it wasn't. It wasn't an internet doctor said that basically it's a down period for about ten days. And I did not talk myself with this doctor, but this this is his second hand, and so it was down period for like ten days and then we'll start the

Well, there you go.

So as long as I was thinking, as long as you're ready by July.

You know when Jerry on the radio said three months, I did the math. I said, wait, December, January, February. So just like Aiden Hutchinson, the Lions are hoping to get Aiden Hutchinson back by the Super Bowl. I did the math on that, and it would match up with Super Bowl Sunday.

That ain't happening, Okay, No tours acl.

Right, Oh you're talking about the bidding. No, he broke his leg.

It broke his He broke his Oh that's right.

Sorry, So I just took time for the bone to heal. Yeah, big bone.

Like last last year when Aaron Rodgers tore his achilles and he was going to be back before the end of the season.

That workout. It's not working out this year either, ye'ah.

Doing everything you'll can to stay away from football. Wait to go, ya doing a bastard for job? All right?

So Nate Watson get it back to.

Football, back to our football.

I mean what you got on your mind.

Okay, So this team is facing three games in the span of eleven days, with a Monday night game followed by a Sunday game and then a Thursday game. How difficult is that stretch. It's even it's by by one day. It is shorter than what the normal process is this time of the year for the cowboy.

For the young guys, you know, the first year guys, it'll be hectic, But this is about being a professional, locking in more importantly, getting your families and friends to lock in that you know you may not have as much time as you normally do, and just just lock in and make sure you're healthy, make sure you take care of your body, and it just be the best you can. Just prepare. Coach is going to try to make it easy. He's going to try to mesh these games.

So they get an extra day this week to prepare. McCarthy said they would go heavy early in the week and then slack off or taper off.

I should use the right word.

Cowboys are slacking off, yes, taper off towards the end. And so they're going to keep Wednesday through Friday the same. Maybe they get if they take an easy day walk through maybe on Saturday, and don't do the other practice on Sunday to get ready for the Monday night game.

But then you got a.

Short week, right, yes, to get ready for Sunday away game, and then you're away and good thing. It's a it's an early game right in Washington, am I right.

At twelve o'clock? What you mean is by early.

Early, let me look it up here, look, which means you get back at it is a noon game, ye, So you.

Get back at a decent time. So Monday is not wasted like previous years when the Cowboys had away game on Sunday night and then played Thursday.

So that's more.

Equitable for getting ready for the game. So yeah, they've got a lot of preparation to do, and you're trying to also use this week as an extra day to not only prepare now your starting quarterback, but your backup quarterback too.

Okay, when was the last time that the Cowboys played a Monday night game, then a Sunday game, and then a Thursday game? Meaning I hope you have the meaning three games in eleven days is typically it's three games in twelve days with a Sunday game, not a Monday night game on the front end of that. Right, So when's the last time that happened.

I'm guessing it's been quite some time.

Two thousand and five, as you were talking, I just looked.

It up, all right.

In two thousand and five they played a Monday night game at Philadelphia and one twenty one twenty They came back the following Sunday in one at home against Detroit twenty to seven, and then they lost an overtime game on Thanksgiving to Denver twenty four to twenty one. So it's been nineteen years since they've had these bunched up.

Was that a nine and sevens.

They went nine and seven at OH five, which would have been DeMarcus Ware's rookie season, but.

It didn't get them in the playoffs. That's right second place.

In fact, they were coming into that stretch, they were one two, three four, They had a five and three record, got it to seven and three, and then lost to four out of the last six.

Games turn persells warm out.

So uh And as I said yesterday, for those who were wondering, okay, go ahead and just hand it over to Trey Lance at quarterback, that this with even if you just looked at this schedule right now, you that would be coaching malpractice to give it to a guy who had so limited experience both in college and the NFL. Three games in eleven days.

Yeah, you know, I heard you just talk about it yesterday and you was adamant about it, and you seemed like you slept on it, and you came up with the same conclusion again. So I'm glad you stick to it. My thing is just right here. You know, I've talked a few people off the ledge because everybody you know, wants to judge Cooper Rush on this one game. Don't do that. Give this kid a chance to have another

What he was trying to do there was block the sun so that ceed can.

No, sir, I'm not going there. I'm not. I don't, I don't. We heard this four or five or six years ago, but guess what we would turn out to be? Twelve and five were trying to be twelve and five were trying to be twelve and five. The tours wasn't messed up then, and the sun wasn't messed up then all of a sudden. Players don't give these players excuses for doing their job.

You give them a soft pill to put that up.

Yes. So the thing is that like this right here, these fans in this stadium help pays our bills. Bottom line. I'm through with it now. If y'all want to talk about this and then the tours, count me out, because all I want to talk about is get these young guys on the field, giving Cooper Rush an opportunity to be the guy that we saw before. Yes, the offensive line is different, Yes he has a little bit more pressure on him. But now our wide receivers, our tight ends have to make plays.

You saw what else happened on that play?

Right I make I don't want to.

That play missed the block at the line of scrimmage, yes, sir, And why Cooper Rush was getting hit just after he threw the ball.

Let's correct that, and let's get ready for those texts. I have an extra day and I'm not gonna let you waste your time on your show. Just leave leave it alone. Did you have any know?

Because that's what people should be worried about.

Here.

Everybody's worried about the sun. The real reason the play didn't work was because they didn't block on the line of scrimmage.

Help me, Bill, you know what.

I want to hear brought it up.

He said, you got to know the place.

Yes, you do.

And I don't think they knew the play.

They gotta know them. This team will grow as the players grow. Coach McCarthy knows its own system. The offensive coordinator can tell you before the quarterback throw it, that's the wrong place to throw the ball. How do you translate it to the players. It's three ways you can do it. You can tell them and they can see it in their mind. You can put it on films so they can see it visually, or you can go through a walk through so they can see it, feel it,

That's the only reason that I got to play my first time in high school.

You got to play.

I knew the place.

It's you.

I told you. I didn't realize you got into a game.

I did about three of them.

Really yeah, what position did you play?

Well? I was the reporter on the sideline.

So you got into the game as a reporter on the side I was, I was joking your sideline.

They allowed me to be on the team because they know I covered the game for the studented some good reviews. Well, I was pretty tough on I bet you were all right. I learned early.

All right.

I want to hear what our six time Pro Bowl offensive lineman has to say about one of the newcomers we saw in an NFL football game last Sunday when mix Shots continues in just a Moment.

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And, by the way, the players on their day off yesterday made their annual visit to the Salvation Army in Dallas and for Worth that's always early Thanksgiving meals.

A neat a neat deal. Did you guys go there?

I think we did more to Christmas?

Did Christmasy?

We did more Christmas. I think these guys do both.

I've gone there a couple times to help deliver the meals to the people. It's pretty neat. It's a pretty neat deal.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, And I think I went a couple of times when I wasn't after I was, you know, I got playing and so yeah, it's wow when you when you do good things for people, Man, it is a blessing. Believe me, when you do it, and you know you and I'm telling you something. When you're off there, be like, man, what you know? Then when you get there, your your heart change. Man, it's a different thing you you like when you leave, like, man, I'm glad I did that.

And it seems like the people don't sit there and hold you responsible for being three and six right now there.

They just glad that you took time out of your day to come see them and deserve them a meal.

Okay, tell me about awesome Richards. What did you see out of Awesome Richards and Sunday's game?

You know, I saw a guy that, as the game went on, got more and more confident.

Uh.

He got a little bit of help, but not a whole lot.

Uh.

He held his own. I think he got a little raggedy in the in the late fourth quarter. He got a little out of whack there a couple of times, but he's got to make sure he gets off on the snap count. He continued to work his technique. He played a fairly good game. You know, I I buy into the Hudson Hawk my old offensive line coach theory. One game doesn't make you all pro, So let's I hope he can get some more snaps, not at the cost of guiding. I don't. I don't want that to happen.

Here is the practice window to.

Give you some food for thought. So McCarthy said that Tuma will be back at practice today and that's the first time since he got hurt.

Yes, And he was.

Asked with Richards, Guiton is probably healthy enough to play this week and with Richards and McCarthy interrupted, and he goes, we will have competition at that position.

The thing about it is.

So that was his way of not committing one way of the other the other.

But the butt the bottom line, that's a dangerous game for me in my mind to play either guiding. It is truly your starter. And if you and if you start that competition and Richards beat him, what do you really do? Think about it? See, you don't have to commit.

Just just how much competition is there in practice?

No, regardless of however they come to the conclusion, then I'll reworded. Yeah, however they come to the conclusion, what if they decide to start Richard's again, what do you do with guiding?

He wasn't ready to come back from his injury.

Yeah, yeah, So my thing is just right here, Like coaches and pr usually tell me when I used to always run my mouth and say the most dumbest things, Nate, sometimes no comment is the best way, and to coach, they just left that open. I think.

No, Well, there has been a coach here in the past, at least one who would use a press conference to send a message to the player. I don't know that Mike McCarthy is one of those that does that, but there was one that you played for that would do that quite often.

Well.

The interesting thing is like last week when he wasn't when Geiton wasn't ready to play, he was inactive, so the backup tackle was, well, let's go, he had him active. Well, now what happens if they decide Richards uh is the starter is guiding the backup or is he inactive again?

You can't you keep saying, yeah, I'm trying to your question. Yeah, to answer your question. You do what you want to do. And you know people saying, well, Nate, as much as you've been crying for it's awesome, richest guy to play, you should want him in there. Yes, I do want him in there, but it but you you at a point now where if you, as a coaching staff, I decided, along with your offensive line coach and your GM. Okay, this kid is truly not ready, specially now, we're going

And then you've got to figure out if Tuma's coming back. I don't know that being out this long, you get in what to practices and you're ready to be active.

I would I think he's still wouldn't. It's his window. Just twenty one day start. We had a start fail because of another end his window.

I'm with you on that. By the way, I know what you're saying.

I'm not riding with him. I'm not riding with.

Him on the subjects of Tyler Geidon. You know, in some ways he's from an experienced standpoint, a youth standpoint. He's a lot like Trey Lance hadn't played much, he hadn't played much in college. He was a defensive lineman in high school, converted to offense of lineman. He was enlisted as an h back at TCU before he transferred to Oklahoma two years ago. Was only the starter to start that season because wan Yer Morris, who now is starting at left tackle for Kansas City, was suspended at

I think is that he talked about this doing training camp and right before the season start that this kid hadn't had a lot of experience and I saw in training camp, and I you know, I tried to relay this to a lot of people that he needs desperately to work on his on his technique, and he needed desperately to learn to punch with those long arms. And eight nine, ten games in that's still is situation. If he used those arms, it's always gonna be a different deal.

You were talking about Guidon's college. Richard's at North Carolina started thirty eight games. Oh yeah, thirty.

Yeah, I personally every other day. I know, Coach mc clari hated to see me coming because I was having I had a new angle on how he could play. He's just sharing the training camp. Yeah, I had a new anger. But coach, you ever thought about this for for for awesome Richards? And he would just shake his head, smile and pat me on the back and keep going.

Why you always thought he was a better tackle than a guard.

Yeah, I just I just believe this. Give him, give him the reps. Uh. Now you can. Now you can feel confident as a coaching staff to put him in if something happened either left guard a left tackle. So now now t J. Bass, who is a good I think gonna be a good guard in this league. Now you you relegate him just to the right guard, you know, and let him if something happened to uh to the point where you don't want to put Zack in there he's Sack is beat up. But anyway, you know, not

Look at your own career, I'm just looking back in nineteen eighty six. Yeah, you when you got in your first NFL game, you were twenty four years old, Yes, and turned twenty five late in that season in eighty six, started your first NFL game in eighty seven at age twenty five, Yes, and then started a twelve years run of starting every game basically, But we look at the difference. You were twenty five when they started.

In USFL and needed the USFL.

And Tyler Goeyton just turned twenty two this summer and he's being asked to That's why I thought, even in training camp, it was going to be a big ask to have a twenty two year old with such limited college experience start every game over a seventeen game season.

And I tried to present that to people, and you you can crush your kid. And I'm not talking about him being crushed mentally because I hope he's not listening to our shows. I hope he was, but I hope he is, but not. But when you get up and tell people how good they are, you know you're not good. He's not good, and he's not this, and he's not this.

Let me give you another one who actually was with the Cowboys early on out of Arkansas. Guy by the name of Jason Peters.

Yeah.

Yeah, in two thousand and four with Buffalo, he was twenty two years old. This is after he was first like a college free agent fined by the Cowboys with Buffalo five games, one start, age twenty three. He started half the season in Buffalo, Okay, and then two thousand and six at age twenty four is the first time he had played sixteen games, And here we are in twenty twenty four and he still was getting a look this year again from Seattle at age forty two.

Yeah, yeah, you know.

So did you start the season in eighty seven? What game did Nate for you said he played?

Let's see, you played in eighty seven eleven starts.

Yeah, I know how hard it is, and three were replacement games.

Assume I crossed the figure line. Yeah money, yeah, yeah, I'm saying guys talking about yeah, be loyal, Yeah, you sold out for money too. But anyway, we need to.

Take a break, yes, sir, and I'll continue that thought when we come back here on mixed shots.

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Micah Parsons has tweeted this here in the last hour, when Mozzie becomes great exclamation points because he is on his way exclamation points, all of you will owe me an apology. Exclamation points hashtag believe exclamation point. What's somebody point when Mazi became is great because he is on his way. All of you will owe me an apology.

He's a proponent of Mizzie Smith. He always has been worked with him, encouraged him during training camp on a daily basis. Yes, he did, ran with him, Yes he did, tried to get him in tip top shape and he still believes.

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There you go in one of the reasons talking about Overshawn young Superstar, I would imagine sorry he talked about him after the game. He had the really good things to say about him.

And who doesn't have good things?

Yeah, especially after that performance. Huh So. One other position that seems to be somewhat a problem is the left cornerback position, and as you saw in the game, Philadelphia picked on Kaylin Carson. As a matter of fact, on that drive at the end of the first half, they went on him four or five plays for completions. So when I asked McCarthy about Bland, he said he's still with the rehab group and they have to put him

So if he's not true.

They don't if he's done for the season.

Right, and I would imagine they do they will, although then you got to, well, I guess they put Dak on IR so they'll have a spot for him. But if you noticed in that game in the fourth quarter, they put mccwalmew at left corner, right, So I wonder what happens this week. And I don't know that because.

Collins is coming back for the Texans this week. He's been on IR and they said he could have played last week. They waited another week and he'll be ready to come back Monday night.

And if you noticed in the game, and I don't mean to go backwards, Nate, you can, you can Trayvon Diggs picked that ball in the end zone. I don't think they threw his way the rest of the game.

They did, they didn't, They just picked on it on a young kid. Carson's uh sometime, you know, like everthing you know I caught everything in the hall. We was talking about sometime you just got to throw caution to the win. He's an upclose flare and he's playing saw yeah, so he's got he's got to say, you know what, they drafted me for a reason. They're sticking with me, and this is happening. Let me go back to the

It's like he lost his confidence.

He has lost his confident. Ain't like he has when you when it's third and eight and you back up the third and twelve. Yeah, I mean you're giving him more than the first down. I mean you giving him first down an opportunity to break a big plate. So, yes, he's he's lost his confidence. And that's where I know coach A. I. Harris is telling him, probably over coaching him, son, move up, challenge you better than that. Use your hands.

Well, So that's one thing to keep an eye on. Brandon Cooks sounds like he's close to returning. He's still rehabbing, but he's running really well. So it'll be interesting to see if they can get him back. And then I think they're going to try and get with an extra day this week, maybe get Mingo ready to give him a small package and get them ready to go. You know, I saw him out there the other day and he was just doing some drills and catching the ball. He's big,

Also, you know what, I'm not going and I know I'm the only one thinking this, but he he should be playing a certain amount of plays this week and he should be almost starting next week. Do not let this kid. If you I hear all these great things, Hey, they loved them on their draft board. Oh they were excited. Okay, if you're excited about this kid, he just came from a team that didn't fit his system. That's how you have to look at a team that.

He didn't finish changed since they drafted.

Now, if all of this great stuff you are saying put him on the field, what can he do worse than what has happened?

And he's the easiest one to find out about, right, because next year you're gonna draft a wide receiver, right.

Maybe not?

Maybe not?

I don't know.

If you think this guy can be a number two.

That's why you made the move for him at mid season this year, so that you can figure out what he is. And you might have stolen a guy you look at it as an early draft pick from for next year.

My issue is simply this play this kid. See we send in all these mixed singles. Oh, we don't want to think, well, we don't want people to think that we done gave up on the season. Well, I'm gonna be honest with you. When you put Trey Lance in the game, what are you telling a guy like me who played, You're giving up on the season. And you

And when you look at the wide receiver room with Brandon Cooks injured, Okay, outside of c d Lamb, you got a third round draft pick in Jalen Tolbert. You got a college free agent or a seventh round draft pick in Jalen Brooks. You got a sixth round draft pick in Ryan f Illinoy, and you got Cavante Turpin who was a college free agent and was a USFL guy, And so it makes a lot of sense that and you got Jalen Cropper, a college free agent last year.

They elevated this last year, right.

And so Mingo with a second round draft pick, see what he's See what he's got?

I oh, I'm I'm all for it.

And I think you're.

Lacking at least he's played too, right, he is. He played fourteen games.

Last year, that's right. He had forty three catches last year.

I just I'm telling I hate the season is going the way it is going out Because I'm a big proponent of coach McCarthy. I am and you and as a head coach, the worst thing you want to see is young, inexperienced guys running out there. But coach, you ran with two out there and the most important positions on your team, center and left tackle. So you had to know things was gonna get a little dicey. You

All right, you need to take a break because you got some more talking to do.

Well on, I got Jesse, okay, so you don't have to talk now. That's my boy. You're going rock and rolls. All right.

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