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Mick Shots: Championship Show

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The guys take a deep dive into the NFL Championship games, and just what they saw related back to the Cowboys. Everson focused on the matchups, and how you have to win those to win playoff games. Mickey focused on the importance of the offensive line play, especially the need to protect your quarterback. Plus, interpreting Jerry Jones.

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The following. Here's a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club Cowboys. This is Nick Shot screaming live on Dallas Cowboys dot Com and the official Dallas Cowboys app now Here are Bill Jones, Everson Walls, and Nicky Spagnola yesterday figure of Dolls. M this is the your guys, this is a new guy. I've come to the realization to Cowboys art going to the Super Bowl after all. Finally, just now with this victory Monday's Stampede,

I just realized it ain't happening this year. Well, there's there's victories in two other places. There is there is sorrow in two other places. Exactly, that's right, right, at least we don't have to, uh, we don't have the sorrow that they have in Kansas City this morning. Yeah. I was just telling the guard down the hallway. I said, you know, when you lose games like that, there's a thousand reasons why, and they're having to go through that

today in Kansas City along with San Francisco. I think the only thing about it if you look at you know, failure this year, which guy, there was a lot of with the upsets and it was a lot of it, a lot of failure that you just didn't see coming. You didn't see the Packers losing. You just didn't see it coming. You know. You you got a quarterback that uh could be in VP and he retired it. You know what I mean, he retired? Well did he retire? We think everybody saying he has Adam Adam Schefter, he

came out first, rights come out of his mouth. Yes, a lot of people would like to hear Adam Schefter retired, right, maybe Tom Brady will announce And it's amazing, Adam Schefter reported, Ian Rapperports suddenly had sources that told him the same thing. Not amazing. But when you look at it and you compare failures, if it wasn't for the the you know, them winning the Super Bowl, the Chiefs would be that team that you would say, you know, they chiefed it up.

You know what I mean, the chief They chief the game up. So they become this verb. I think it's just because they have so much confidence in what they're doing. Sometimes they can get really foolish on the offensive side of the Chiefs and it cost them this year. It cost them. We'll get into that Tiver the course of the next hour here on mix Shots on on Monday. Yeah, and then we moved to Monday. We switched with teammates, and so next week we will be back at our

normal offseason Thursday time. Yeah, what will I do? That's sad, but it's a great I love the fact that we're doing Yesday this week because we can, uh, we can talk about what everybody watched on on Sunday and uh and spend it in a Cowboys way. What what can this team learn from not only what happened on Sunday, but the teams that are making it to the Super Bowl, the Rams as well as the Bengals and how they put their teams together. It's very interesting to to figure

that out and see what we can learn from them. Well, the thing we talked about after the Cowboys loss, and I think after the next round of games that the teams that advanced generally had the better offensive lines in this one need you know, the second game, neither team could run the ball much, right, but protecting the quarterback in both games needed to be at a premium if you weren't gonna win. You know, I saw somebody had

had a stat when Jimmy Garoppolo wasn't pressured. He had completed eighty percent of his pass and then when he was pressured, it was like two for nine. Well, shocking, right, that's the name of the game. Get pressure on a quarterback and he's not gonna be as good as he can stand in the pocket. Did you see that first half the time Mahomes had in the pocket, he was looking right, he was looking the middle. He was looking like, oh no, I'm gonna go down this way. Unbelievable the

time he had. And then when the pocket disappe here all of a sudden started making mistake he looked, yes, absolutely. So what I took from all this stuff is that offensive line better be good if you're gonna succeed in the playoffs, no doubt about it. Now you guys can pick some well well, and I agree in going into the Cincinnati Kansas City game with what Kansas City and Kansas City realized that after the Super Bowl last year they had to improve that offensive line. They acquired Orlando Brown.

They have two rookies starting on the offensive line who are very good players, and they shored it up and then you saw, but you saw what happened with Joe Burrow last week against Tennessee getting sacked nine times, And so who would have thought that, Cincinnati, And you go through the whole first half of that game, and I'm going, well, we had some great games last week, but this, this first one this week, it certainly isn't gonna shape up that way. And then all of a sudden it's shaped

up that way. Yeah, And and credit Cincinnati for figuring out a way to protect Borrow enough to where he could make plays, and they were established able to establish enough of a running game, you know, to bleed the clock and can and gain control of that game. I think what you saw was those stats and all of that that we care about. Once again, first thing priority,

protect your quarterback as much as possible. But when it's all said and done and you can't do what you want to do, matchups are extremely important in the playoffs. You know, can your playmakers still come through no matter what? You know? They don't. They don't sit back there and start counting the sacks. They're like, Okay, we're still gonna move forward in spite of the fact that we're giving up sacks. They stay focused on the task at hand. And when it comes to the playoffs, you know, you

just gotta have a totally different attitude. You can't be about numbers. It can't be about what your love like. It can't be about, Oh, we're inconsistent. Everybody's inconsistent in the playoffs. That's because you come up with good against good defenses. So we sit here in Dallas and we're always worried about optics. We worried a lot about optics and how it looks, and it affects the way we

make our play calls. To me, as far as I've been saying matchups on the way to go, you tell me you can whoop my man Michael Passes, You tell me you can whoop my man trade var Did you tell me you can whoop my man Gallimore? If you can beat those guys, then you can have it. But the game plan to me, is secondary to how well

you match up with the other team. You know, if I had told you in the NFC game that Cooper Cup was gonna catch eleven passes for one hundred and forty two yards two touchdowns, Odell Beckham nine passes for one hundred and thirteen yards, Matthew Stafford was gonna go throw for three thirty seven, they would have scored forty points. Right,

they end up with twenty twenty and one. And one reason they end up with twenty and not twenty seven is God Cooper Cup dropped a touchdowns, so they would add another eighty yards or whatever the link of that would be twenty. They're beatable. Right. San Francisco ends up with seventeen. Right, they probably would have ended up with seventeen against the Cowboys had they not had the interception that gave him the easy kind of touchdown. And how

many they have against Green Bay? They had thirteen and they and it was a special teams touchdown about thirteen they didn't they didn't have it didn't So the hard time those teams were beatable, they were beating This was our us facts, this was it. I said that as we were, they were. This was our year. If you're gonna do it with this team this year, we could have done it. And all excuses aside. You look at

how well we played Savvy even badly. As badly as we played, still had a chance to beat San Francisco, who barely beat Green Bay, who barely lost to the Rams. The parody hate to use that word, but that that word, it's what we have. And it was really in spades this year. This was the year that we really could have done it. And really without even playing our best, we still could have done it. That's how that's how

weird this playoffs. These playoffs are and I'm telling you it's all about matchup and just how many how many guts? What kind of guts do you have? You know what I mean? I mean, I mean you're gonna get hit in the mouth in the playoffs. And Burrows got hit in the mouth. Not how many times he gets sacked nine times last week against Tennis. No, this week they did good. He he only got sacked I think once or nuns or nuns. I gotta think I've ever said

that word. I got it right here one time. And he was only only hit four times coming off of last week. That's a great adjustment, exactly, That's a great adjustment to make no one thing he felt so by the way, I didn't realize former Cowboys offensive line coaches, Cincinnati's line coach Frank Pollock, who these guys really liked here, and they let him go for Paul Alexander. If we

remember there's a trade with Cincinnati. The former long time Cincinnati Bengal offensive line coach came here and Pollock landed there, and he's still there. And they you know, they spent a first round draft pick on the tackle from Alabama, but he's still he doesn't have all that much to work with. They haven't invested like a lot of people in Cincinnati had wished they did in their offensive line, but they made the investment they needed to make in

and that was at the quarterback position. I had forgotten. I had forgotten that until I saw him on the sideline in a shot and I go, wait a minute, that's Pollock. He's still there. And you know what else was missing from this Basically this entire weekend. I just did not see a lot of it at all. And it made for good football. All penalties about that? Come on, man, and guess what. It was so enjoyable watch the game, Kansas City Cincinnati game, and the Bill Vanovitch was the

referee on that game. And I understand his crew during the regular season, his crew, not this crew, but his crew during the regular season called the fewest penalties in the entire league. Now, you probably can referee even with an all star cast of officials around him, the referee can set the tone. They Okay, we're not going to we're not gonna call tiki tax stuff. We're not gonna

do this or whatever. Yeah, and uh. And by the way, there was a couple of plays in the opening drive for Kansas City where yeah, you could have made interference calls. You know, I'm sure, I'm sure Cincinnati fans were yelling. And if it was Anthony Brown, they would have called it. Yeah, yeah, exactly, that's right. But it was they would We were into the second quarter before the first penalty flag was thrown and it was an obvious false start or something like that.

And well, and how about this the other crew for the NFC game, Carl Scheffer's the most penalty most penalties call and in this game they only called eight. Came from the top of the league there and only against the Rams only two. And I saw I think it was the second game a couple delay of games that didn't get mad and it was obvious. I'm thinking of the horn. You're thinking of me, Think of the horn?

Where's the because you're it's crucial times of the game as well, cruial times of the game, yes, and they just let it slide. They just act like it didn't happen. Yeah, it was there at least a half a second. All right, there was one, you know what. And by the way, um, I ran into a guy that does some college games, and basically he kind of said that if it's like really close, the conferences want you to just let it go. Let it go, unless it's like two. They did have

one of those. Yea, yeah, yeah. But but if if it's like on zero and then they're snapping right whatever TV right, they want to see offense, right, they want to say they did. Yes, they don't want to stoppage and play, especially as long as college games are. Yeah. Right. But to that point, there was one. And the second, I guess it was in the It was in the I think it was in the second half of the Kansas City game. It was a long pass crossing route to Tyreek Hill and uh and on the when they

ran the play, he was in the inside. They had three receivers to the left, they had the receiver on the line of scrimmage out wide, they had one flank and then he was the inside slot and he was closer to line and I'm telling you he was on the line of scrimmage, so he was covered by the outside wide receiver. He makes the catch, and I said, well, there's got to be a flag on it, right, And I went back and looked at it, and I took a picture of it. I can send you the bit.

He clearly was at the line of scrim and they didn't call it. No. Romo pointed it out, Oh really, I didn't. I didn't hear the point. I was probably backing up my dvyard and he pointed out, he goes, look, that's too many guys on the line of okay, right, he goes, they can't have eight, right, and and they let it go. And and uh, the sideline was complaining too. By the ways, he may have been a different play. It may have been they may have been done it

on multiple plays where they were just ignoring it. That was the formation, that was the heavy formation. They went that all the time. Yeah, and uh. And I went back and I texted it to Babe Luffenberg and Babe's like, oh, yeah, it's good. And I said, well he's even with the tackles even either, tyreek, what do you call the Babe got me over here, I'll take a call and uh so they visit aficionado of rules. Yeah, he just doesn't

see him. Well, you know, and the amazing things with what Cheffer's his crew being the lead he beat hockily. After Hockeleague called twenty eight penalties in the Cowboy game, he still wasn't first. So that tells you how many penalties they were called. Ye, but they backed off. They let him play, right. There was a tawning penalty that was stupid. Yeah, yeah, it was dumb. That was dumb or something. I think he stepped over the guy or something and they called tawny and it's Z's al Sharier. Yes,

very good. Um, all right, do you want to get to the end of the first half Kansas City game? Yes, okay, all right? Five seconds first off? His nine seconds left. They ran one play. Now it's five seconds left. They have no time him outs left. There had twenty one to ten. What are you doing in that situation? You mean the great Andy Reid didn't do it right and the Homes Yeah, and Mahomes thought he had a time

out left at the end of that play. At the end of that play, he's called he's yeah, he looked and beyond that, perplexed, beyond the sense of timing. As soon as the first read wasn't there, okay, and he double clutched, and then he threw it out to Tyreke. It was the halfs over. It was okay because he did it on first down right with nine seconds to go. Uh, it wasn't open and he threw it in the ground

in the end zone. Right. You should have done that again exactly if it had another it's it's a plant. I mean, five seconds left, it's a plant. First read. If it's there, go for it. If not, you're throwing it away. Because Romo pointed out that, and then you got one seconds. You can get three plays off. He goes, now, now Romo thinking right, but but but he was thinking three plays you know, snap throw, yes, snap throw yes, four seconds each time. You can't pump fake. Yeah, that's right,

And that's three. If you pump fake easily, that's going down to two plays. Yeah, yeah, that's right. And so and you just did it. He went from nine to five. Now you can go five to one and just it's the same principle. And I but if it's not there, you can't double clutch and then throw it. Now okay, now half's over. And I just thought it was amazing that he didn't have the Mahomes, didn't have the presence herewood Reid did. No, he took took the fall. Four

fell on the sword. He said, I could have given him a better play, right, And it's like, okay, maybe, but it didn't work. But to throw it in the ground. But you have to get points there, yeah, okay. And I know it felt like that they were so in control of the game. But I mean, huge, huge touchdown for Cincinnati was getting it to twenty one to ten. Yo boy, Yeah, I love that name. There were two great runs that are both of them. Yes, that one, uh no, the one Mixons was good. But Debos oh yeah,

my goodness. Wow. Yeah Joe John because ran right through a lineback. But he just became a superstar. Yeah. I know a lot of people loved him before, but now everybody knows him. Yeah, so everybody's late to my party. But at the end of that half, even if they had kicked the field goal, you don't know that. Okay,

those three points would have changed the whole game. It had made a little difficult, but Cincinnati did a heck of a job that second half, especially Burrow keeping his composure, not trying to win the game on one play, and when he didn't have something there, he upped out his offensive line running. His running backs helped him out a lot. They were outlets for him, and when they threw the

ball to him, they weren't surprised. Right. Sometimes Zeke looked like he's so surprised that Dak fills in the ball out the flat. So these guys, they when they called it, they were ready to go. The running backs did a lot in this game. Pete Ryan and h Mixing. They did a great job. And that's where the matchups come in. They knew that they were gonna be so far deep. I mean, the linebackers were nowhere to be found for for for Casey, because they thought they can control it

the front. It was the same thing they the Cowboys faced. Right. The team's thought, especially San Francisco, we can control your run game with our front, but you're not going to throw the ball down the field. And I gotta say I hate giving quarterbacks too much credit, but probably one of the better players of that game was in Burrows. Came Broke, Chris Jones. Yeah, sactackle. Oh yeah, yeah, that to me, that huge that he broke it twice, right, even when he escaped feet and down, that was huge

and it uplifted the team itself. You know. The other thing that was big in that game was the fact that Kansas City was clicking on offense in the first half. I mean they were and it was all underneath stuff. I mean it was you know, they were taking what the defense gave him. But the key on that was and I think in the game, Kansas City only completed only had two plays of over twenty yards. That's what

I heard this morning. I'm not haven't confirmed it, but but when you look at it, look at the number of possessions that Kansas City had in the first half. Yeah, they were scoring touchdowns on them, but they only had twenty one points. Yeah, okay, and they and they they scored, They scored on their first three possessions, and then that they only had four possessions in the first half of that game. And then they get the ball again to start the second half, which was the other reason. Why

take the point. You got to get points. You're getting the ball back again, you know, And that's some of the things that that that quarterbacks don't see. That the guys that I definitely noticed during the game. I just hate watching wide receivers just release off the line of scrimmage with no one hindering their progress. Tyree Hill was coming off the line of scrimmage. No one was touching him when he was in that slot position. He was

the guy that they're going for the dbs. If you're if you're a cornerback and you're lined up on him and you just opened up they called the saloon door. That's what they called. You opened up the saloon door, your safety is immediately under pressure. So that's why he was so successful in the in the first half. And I remember fussing that my son. I'm sure he like God Dad with your shouther. I remember fussed that my son, saying,

why are they giving him a free release? Well they did the same thing to cup what in in the Cincinnati game second half? They changed, They changed, they did, they did. They gave him free at least when he was lined up outside, but if you lined up inside, they finally started pressing him and now there's no more pressure on him. So that's why you're looking at my homes going and my Homes gets rattled because he's looking

for the guy in the opening before he goes. Mahomes really eyeballs his receivers way too much and if any defensive coordinating, I'm sure that's what they're catching up to right now. They're finally catching up to him that he does. He does not do well coming off of his first week. They had two hundred and ninety two yards in the first half, second half, Kansas City eighty three yards, eighty three looking for him. They're looking for him all day long.

And what happens when they finally try to force it into him safety. Did you notice what they were doing with Kelsey in the second half, Okay, because that's the other thing. It's either Hill or Kelsey. His guys, it's probably Hill. First three, Kelsey saying yes, but yeah, you got Kelsey for fifty. But then I'm sorry, you got Hill for fifty, but Kelsey might go for fifteen. I'll take the fifteen. You see what I'm saying. And they did the same cup when he went in the slot,

they gave him like a five seven yard release. It's like, what are you doing? You gotta get up on that one touchdown which was a great route on his part. So he gets on the safety right and how did they get on the safety re release for for like ten fifteen yards? Right? Yes? And then he cuts in and the cornerback for some reason, it's a thirteen. It was third and thirteen or second. And he's up on the short guy and he's supposed to follow underneath, right.

I don't know how many picks I've gotten doing that. Yeah? And how about and how about Beckham in these playoffs? You know, and he's kind of he is in these playoffs for the Rams. He is what Antonio Brown was last year for Tampa Day. Yeah. I mean when you look at you know what his reputation is, it's all about me, me, me, and it's goods. Back to what you're talking about. In the playoffs, you got to be

about team, team, team, you know. See. I think when those guys get with a good team, they defer right when they think they're with some scrubs there. I got to be the guy, right, But when he gets there, it's like, Okay, this cup guy's pretty good and the quarterback's not bad. And the right because you know what my mind and it's a short time frame too. It's

only a month long. Yeah, but but maybe he was smart enough to realize, Yeah, maybe he was smart enough to realize, Okay, my my, my career right now is going a shoest He was there. If I screw up here, they are They are playing for money in the playoffs too, Yes, yeah, and that's not it's in comparison to what their salaries are. It doesn't compare. But if you go and win a super Bowl, that endorsement money is like that he had.

He had playoff incentives. I didn't write it down, but he made a hell of a lot of money in incentives. I remember the poetry these over these three how many they played? Three games? Three games? He made a hell of a lot of money. Which is whether Abe could have done as well? Yeah, he would kept his clothes on, right, all right? We continue with more mix shots, and it was just a moment brace yourself for an existential question. Has your butt been having enough fun lately? Have you

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I was sitting right here. It was good right at the last second. You can so let me pick up where I left off before Okay, we move on. Odell Beckham Junior is heading to the super Bowl with the Rams. He earns seven hundred and fifty thousand dollars incentive for their win today. He's already collected two million in playoff win incentives this month, with another chance for a million

more if they win the super Bowl. So he's getting three point seven five million dollars for this four game playoff run if they win the super Bowl and whatever the share is then, and then the share on top of it, and then endorsement deals on top of yes, and a new contract yeah, because he only signed a one year now. So there you go. He's a free agent. What a good time to be a free agent, all right? Unlike I don't know if I can say it, White, Takarski,

tart Jakwaski char Charsty, I have him. He had drop interception. I thought of you when that happened the way, man, is a matter of fact. I went back and watched it and Joe Buck goes and the pass is intercept. Oh he dropped it. That was worse than Brown? Right right? Was it Worstan Brown? I mean, come on, man, that I mean he talked about just in the in your belly. That's that's you know what he did. He did that. Uh, what's the scissor hand thing? Yeah, yeah, yeah, he whiffed.

He went like this, he whiffed. Yeah. I've seen Tony Dorsett do that trying to catch passes. We used to call him crazy hands because sometimes he was backing up like that. It looked like a punt. Punt. It was right in his breadbasket. I bet it left the sarce and it left, it left Matthew Stafford it. Let you know, Matthew Stafford's arm is not what it used to be. I should have got you know, and I should have got a mix shot on that one. By the way, you know in the art sour good, don't even listen

to me. He finally figured out, Yeah, you go look at what bills gotta says. You're missing good stuff. You know. The interesting thing on that dropped interception, what happened with San Francisco on the previous possession? All right, when San Francisco is on offense, they faced a fourth and two, and now Shanahan. Shanahan's getting second guest for not going for it at the like the Rams went for it and they were stopped short with the Stafford quarterback sneak

okay and the forty nine ers stop him. Look like he made it, and uh, but he made it. I thought he was short. I thought it was yeah, okay. So they decided not to go for it. Okay, and they punted the ball away. Rams took over at the fifteen yard line and the first play Tart drops the interception. So had had Tart caught the ball, then they have the ball whatever yard line that with a first. Um, you know, let's say it's even at the forty five yard line. It was about it was pretty far down

to field. It was. It was sold all the arm that Matthew had. So I have all this. I have no problem with Shanahan's decision not to go for it on fourth and two. It was early fourth quarter. Um, and you know, you pun them down and the defense made the play. I mean they had to play. It was San Francisco was up seventeen. Yeah, and they held him and they held him to a field goal. Yeah,

so it was seventeen. But if you, if you, if you go for it and you give them the ball at the fifty yard line right now, they ain't got to go far to get a touch, right, they had to go eighty five? Well, it was a what was

the it was? They started their own fifteen and so twenty eight and thirty five they went sixty three yards to kick a field goal, right, whatever, But your defense on the first play after that decision, your defense was in position to make an easy play to get you the football back with nine and a half minutes left in the game. And now you have an opportunity to run clock and and you're in field goal range with

that kicker that they have. At least you know so well you can see the weakness of their defense is the second day you know that straight. That's just the way it is. But still you have to have that kind of knowledge. We have a chance to make that kind of play. Oh man, you talk about being a hero. And then worse, after they kicked the field goal, they basically went three and out and they had a five yard penalty. And then that's when Jimmy G became Jimmy G too. And last play in the game, he passed

the torch to Trey Lance. Yes he did. Yeah, well it was that or take a sack. Yeah, but it's not like it was. It wasn't like there was third down, so don't do that. Everything was like he was in the end zone. Either you got you gotta take that sack. And if it's fourth down, if it's fourth down, I understand that him. When I saw it, I thought it was fourth down. It was third And that's why you have to take care of it, you know. All Right,

Cowboys made some news on Friday, they did. Jerry Jones spoke about that, and dan Quinn is back, and dan Quinn's back, Um, we'll see what happens with Kellen Moore. Mike McCarthy's back, by the way, not sure that was. Look, I wrote about it, and it dawned on me that after the game. Was it Monday Tuesday when Stephen Jones did his radio segment and he was asked a question

about Mike McCarthy. Will he that was the Monday after the Monday after the loss, right, and is Mike McCarthy going to be your head coach in twenty twenty two? And he said absolutely, lutely, absolutely totally confident, totally confident, very confident or what was it? Very confident, absolutely very confident, and everybody just dismissed it like he's some sort of well you know what happened under I know, I know, but but everybody forgot about it. Right. He is the coe, right,

he is the guy that does the day right. He does the day to day stuff right. He doesn't normally speak out of turn, like say something off the cuff. Right, he knows what's going on. But that didn't matter when Jerry said nothing on when did Jerry do his Wednesday Friday? It was he went to Madden's memorial service the next day,

so it was later in the week. It was Friday, right, and he never he never addressed And because he didn't address it, then that Matt he left Mike McCarthy twisting in the wind when he did address it with him, as he pointed out, right, how is McCarthy twisting in the wind? He was twisting in the wind only in the minds of the media and out there think that that Jerry was going to make a change behind the

doors here there was probably probably no indication. Jerry pointed out, he was only twisting in the wind of you guys. And he didn't And he said, and I don't mean you guys. The guys on the fan, he goes, I meant the media, he said, because if you look at it. When Mike was asked about it, he said, Jerry and I talked and I'm I'm here, he said, he said what you didn't hear or didn't want to recognize it didn't come from Jerry. Right, This is not the first

time Jerry played coy on something publicly. Right, and he does let Steven speak, Yeah, and Stephen said it. Stephen doesn't just say stuff to say stuff, right, and and so yeah, so he kind of tried to clear that up, and now everybody thinks he's lying. They still don't, you know, if you listen to talk radio or if you listen to read the column in the morning News. It was like, no,

he's not telling you. If you listen to talk radio, then Das is all blamed on Sean Payton if you listen to talk radio, because that was a point in the interview where you know, I think he said something that left the door open to criticism for McCarthy or that he would be kind of waiting in the wings if things don't go well here in Dallas. So now everyone is thinking he didn't really say that. Everyone is thinking that this is going to be the hottest seat for a coach in the NFL. That point I do

agree with. I have to agree with that point, because we really well disappointed ourselves this year. You know, well, I understand. I think there's a standard that that Jerry's gonna set between here and McCarthy that we have to get to this particular point as a team. And so now with Sean Payton sitting there, you know he'll be commentating, uh whatever he's gonna be doing. Everyone's thinking that he's just going to be keeping the seat warm for Sean Payton.

I'll tell you when the season's over next year, if he's commentating and finds out that there's another life out there that I don't have to work seven days a week and I can make this amount of money and the don't have to move I don't have to move back twice as much as twice as much. Yeah, then why would I ever go back to h right that? But that that little caveat right there, that kind of gives people something to chew on. Yeah, I understand, and it will and it will, it will, it will. It

won't go away. It will not understand that. But as Sean pointed out I heard later on some interview that he had never talked to Jerry, and Jerry had never talked to him. But everybody's lying, so um. But yeah, and so I know he went through this kind of long way around to say, well, yeah, I was just posturing because I wanted to make sure teams weren't thinking we didn't want dan Quinton right, And he said it all the time we had been in talks with him.

He was hoping that the that if he said something the wrong thing, then the auntie would go up and they'll know fifty eight. No, that was Peyton. I want to say he was ten years old when Lawrence takes No. He told the story he was ten years old when Lawrence Taylor was drafted fifty one, because he put you'll ask what time it is, and Mickey, you'll tell you out and build the clock and I'll just tell you it's fifty eggs this morning. I was go ahead, takes

ten minutes from a Sussex. So when was toast Tree? When was Lawrence Taylor drafted? Nineteen eighty two? One draft class guys, I was in class one, so was twenty two? Yeah, he was probably twenty four. Yeah right, yeah, so he was drafted forty years ago. Yeah, and Dan said he was ten. So do the math thirty one fifty one y you would have listened to me instead of laughing, instead of looking it up Wikipedia is something. Yeah. In fact, Lawrence Taylor turned sixty three on Friday. Cool, So there

you go. Same class as you. Yeah. I actually I was young for my class, and obviously so was LT. I really thought he well, he would have been thought he was a he would have been twenty two when

he was drafted. Yeah, but Lauren in nineteen years old, and then you think he finished four years at North Carolina must have he must I did one of his games, must say I did one of his games for kg OU radio, the students station there J. C. Watson Oklahoma against c O U wow k G o U g e o U okag Ou Radio, and Lawrence Taylor and North Carolina tar Hills were unbeaten coming into Norman, Oklahoma, and they had they had a forty one to seven tattoo. Baby,

that's right talking. Yeah, So I l who famous amos. Lawrence was a running back. By the way, Wow, did you did you see the trophy? Presentation Forcinnati. Oh, no, for Cincinnati. Ikey would that was him? Uber text number. I looked at that. I go, that can't be that. He came up to Burrow after the game on the field and when Burrow was threatening to do the Ikey shuffle there he had to be three hundred pounds. Yeah. Yeah, he's been there for a minute. Really, yeah, that's nothing new. Yeah,

he didn't just get there. We talked about that where a lot of times the running backs in the in the cornerbacks or three hundred pounds, or the offensive linemen or one self that I saw what he hugged him and I said, whose father's that or something? I said, how did that guy get on the field? Then I saw him on the podium and I'm going, number thirty, that's gotta bey. Dicky Woods and myself we saw it. We had a Super Bowl appearance. It was right after

I retired. Oh my goodness. I was in some truck stop casino in New Mexico and he was. He and I were there together and we watched the game and the screen was no bigger than this right here, yeah, no bigger than bad. And I thought, I said, man, Ikey, what are we doing here? Man, We just started laughing at each other. Yeah, Ikey's been looking like that for a minute. So it was playing. We was two thirty two seventy pounds. Yeah, most people gained seventy pounds. That

we're good. We're good. With dan Quinn coming back, I'm okay. And Kellen Moore sounded like he Jerry felt like he was coming back. What he's playing coy on that one. He was on the way to Miami Yeah, um so yeah. And so the negative response out there, Oh, that's great, everybody's back and we'll just get beat again in the first Well, well, the one thing that you have to as you look at was going on this year, you

can't do anything without an offensive line. That's right. I don't care how smart you are, I don't care how cute the players are, you know, I don't care what kind of misdirection you're looking at. You have got to have an offensive line that can stave off that off that defensive line so we can make it work. And you know, Mahomes that second half, they got after him with only a four man front. This seems to be

the theme for most successful teams this year. So why didn't he put the team on his back, all that money he makes, and well he tried, he tried, and I'm telling you and that's why the times and it's not just a cowboy, but when you look at football, it's the teams that make the adjustments that are successful. He did all that scrambling around the first half, he

did a little bit in the third quarter. After a while, that front four, Okay, we've seen all the moves you have, right, they got better and better at corralling him, and the second day stayed strong. So it wasn't that he was

just running around to be cute. Those guys were covered back there and that old that defensive line were very strategic in how they approached his sex finally kind of surrounded him right at him, right, yeah, right, they they they they actually baited him into making certain moves, and the guys were waiting on him because because they came from the outside. And then he tried going up the middle these guys that's right there, that's what you know.

He comes up inside and he goes out to this to the right or left, and then that's how he gets he does his mahomes things. And then he tried circling back, and it's like, that's when you know it was desperate when he tried to circle back again. That that that goes to show that he felt the pressure. And even when you look at where they messed up before the first half, that's all about pressure. He didn't

just make a mistake on his own. They weren't just feeling the pressure just because they were down there and think they're trying to keep up with the betting line or something. Cincinnati was starting to put that pressure on them and they became frustrated. The play calling became limited because their frontline started to take away the options. All right, I've got to take off of last fifteen minutes. It's you two, Okay, I think we can do it. Okay, I don't know. Okay, I'm starting my run to the

super Bowl. Uh this afternoon. What you're going to see on the CBS eleven for the next two weeks is any and everybody who has had any kind of relationship with any of the local players and the Super Bowl will be interviewed. Play. Yeah, that's right. By the way that you're going out there, I'm not going no, no, uh no, no, no, bye. By the way, Um, Matthew Stafford. I was texting with his high school coach at Highland Park. Yeah, Randy Allen, And I'll tweet it out here after I

get done. But he was on the front row at so Far Stadium, right behind the Rams bench. Randy Allen was Stafford's high school coach, wearing a Matthew Stafford jersey, and so everybody Rams jersey ran number nine. And so I heard him say he was going yeah right, and uh so that was pretty cool that. Uh So, now I guess he's he's going to be back there in

a week. Well just stayed right. Yeah, that's two weeks and uh and Stafford had four of his teammates off the Highland Park High School UH state championship team from two thousand and five. We were also at the game yesterday. So now when you're going to hook up with von Miller, Well, yeah, we've got a call in so yeah, I was trying to think who else. Yeah, by the way, I know some people on the on the Cincinnati team. To two people in Cincinnat team, they're from the Dallas area. I'm

gonna get back with you on that one. Bill. Yeah, and let's know about howem identity Hakim Identagy from Garland High School offensive lineman to Kansas. Yes, the one high school, right, that's right. Yeah, And in fact he one of the runs by mixing, the twenty three yard run by mixing in the first half. He got it. Uh, he got a shout out from Jim Natz and Hikeman Energy opening the U behole there. That's right. Yeah. Is his parents are very close to my sisters. Okay, yeah, there you

go the whole thing people. Yea. Uh. And by the way, Everson, Um, we talked a little bit about an anniversary last week and we figured out what anniversary was actually, Uh, the date of our show last week was not. Oh we have in fact here it is Chris Beam has it for us right now. Chris forty seven yard dry by Scott normand to try to win the game right now, will pick him from the right. That's four of the bills.

Norwood as he was white. Is a ship stapard We wait it is it is four second clap the Giants have one. I mean, just to think of that. Twenty to nineteen the Giants lead the game. How far was that field goal at him? Forty one forty one yard field goal of him. And you see all these kickers making all these kicks in these playoffs. Now and you go back Cincinnati, you go back. Guy still hasn't miss. That's right. Yeah. Well, one thing about Norwood we knew

about him. He doesn't do well. He didn't kick well on on natural glass. You know he's up in Buffalo and this was this was at the s Yeah. Yeah, so I know a friend of mine, Thorne Channel, he doubled his bed down when he saw Norwood. He did. He said, when that guy is pale, he does not look right, he does not look right. I'm doubling down. He was. By the way, Ron Springs predicted the score, I don't know how really, twenty to nineteen strange score

to predict predicted the score. I was. I was pale too, because I was right on deadline and I couldn't go down like for a interview. I had to wait. And it was an open air press box, and I was my head was out the window looking to see if it was good or not so I can finish my Yeah, I should have said right. It was a local sportscaster who was pale too. I won't mention him by name, but he had done because if the satellite difficulties, he had to tape the open for a sports cast that night.

And he so he did two versions of it. One of it the Giants win, the other one the Bills win. For the first time ever, the Bills won a Super Bowl on the station they ran the wrong one. No, no, I won't say who it was a personal knowledge of it. So that was thirty years ago or whatever. The same same guy that didn't put the tie on the preseason game.

It was the game in London where the Cowboys played the I was, no, there was was the ninety three or three game, and it was so so because of satellite technology back then, you had to tape everything and send it back. And so he sends one version with the Cowboys winning the playoff game and another one with the Bills that the Cowboys Broncos. Was the preseason game. It was a preseason game, yeah, in London. And and the other youth in a version with the other team

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find the perfect SLR lens for you. See more, do more as we continue here on mix shots on this Monday, the day after the NFL Championship games won by Cincinnati and the Rams, and that will be the Super Bowl. I didn't think they would be as exciting as last week. So if I remember you took Kansas, I took Casey in the RAM and the Ram that's what I took Bill, and I took Casey and missed out all the way.

I know he missed both, right, yeah, you know. I just and even though it was still close, I just didn't think that this is the narrat This would have been the narrative. I'm at home, new stadium, you come in, you beat me twice and keep me from hosting my own super Bowl, and actually six times in a row, six in a row, so now that would have been pretty bad. And you use all your draft picks, right, went all in, right, went all in. So I just didn't think Aaron Donald was going to let that happen.

And I know they double teamed the heck out him a lot, but he finally got there the second half, right or the fourth quarter, he started giving them problems. Uh. I just kind of like the fact that they gave him as much exposure. I mean, you know, we we we fall into this pattern. Count I told him uther day, I don't even know what what what was one of

the one of the wide receivers. I couldn't even I don't even know what he looks like, you know what I mean, because they never find them with their helmets off. But but to see Aaron Donald, they called his emotions and for him to to end it with that climax up that was pretty timing, pretty cool. So the Van Jefferson, hmm he was he would be their other wide receiver. Yeah, yeah, yeah, Now he didn't play. Did he play yesterday? Oh yeah?

He was the one that he was thrown to when the ball was intercept much at all, I know, I guess that's what happened when he got back a man cup. As a matter of fact, was that his only target. He got five targets, two catches for nine yards. Wow, when you when you drew up at three thirty seven, it's kind easy to forget that. And they had lost their tight end too, by the way. He went out early right and coming Laddin came on and caught five plass.

It did didn't he clutch plasses too, keeping the chains moving. And see, so when you look at our epic failure as cowboys, you know you can talk yourself into it not being so epic, you know, he said, Okay, well, when it's all saying done, we actually did pretty good. Yeah, but the disappointment is we know we are better. That's the disappointment because we've seen it shown and we've we've seen the inconsistencies. So when we play well, we know

that that could have been us yesterday. Yeah, that's so disappointing because to me, once again, I thought this was our chance and you never know if you had one more play, here we go, one more play, one more play. Still say, you know, I hate trying to hang our hats on. I still wouldn't call it. Hell man, what are you allowed? Were on? They were at the twenty four, not to him marry at all. But you can run

a pattern. You can still run a pad, or you can run as as I think Mike pointed out, you could. You can run five verticals you have to you don't have to run a hill Marry, and that's what they were waiting on everyone. You know, I heard somebody point this out that um I might have been aikman on a radio thing and he said, actually, he goes. You know, that would have been with the way the forty nine ers were protecting the sideline, you know, when Dak ran.

He said, that might have been the best time to run a hill, Mary because they only had maybe three four guys in the end zone instead of the whole team. Right, and you throw it up and once again I could see cde Lamb right, he can jump higher than anybody out there. Which, by the way, I just heard he's a replacement for the program. Saw that. Yeah, good for him. Well what did they do in the pro bo these days? Well, do they have a game? They do a skills thing

now see, but that's not a game. But they do have a game. They do have a game. What do they do They play flag football? Or they might as well. Yeah, because man, I'm telling you, and once again we know why it's dropped in significance because they just don't pay you enough money to potentially gets right. Right. And back then though my rookie year, man, we were out there playing so hard. I tried to take on Chuck Munsey. That's two hundred fifty pounds and it was so funny.

It was a great play. But you know, Check wasn't trying, Yeah, and I was. Because Chuck was twenty seven. I was twenty one. Now I don't know if they still do it, but they didn't change it that the winning team got significantly more money for being there, for winning. That's that. But that doesn't happen until the co what it used to be, right, because I think we got like ten

and five. Yeah, no, it's more than that. And if you win, so those last five minutes of the game, if it's close, right, oh man, we were going at it. I hit him so well. I thought I hit him hard. He I hit him with all I had I had snocked come down my nose trying to hit him. That's just how hard I tried to hit him. And he was like, what are you doing? You know, he didn't even move, he just went out of bounds. And I

was like, I thought I really made a player. He got the way He's like, what are you doing, young fellow. So even the attitude was there right for the older guys at that time, but it wasn't nearly as lack of day as glad as it is. Well if nothing else. I don't know how, I don't remember what they get paid. But it's a trip to Vegas, so see, and it ain't a trip to Hawaii. Well I guess, well it's close, bro,

this man, come on Hawaiian. Well there's no water. There'll be water places you can go out to the outside of the casino where they got a boat out there or something. But oh, it ain't the same man, Hawaii. It's just so much better. Yeah. So these young kids like Vegas though, yeah, they do, they do, and they don't have to travel as far quiz and they don't know about Hawaii agains, they don't, but they missed it. Right, it's fun, so much fun, all right. We were able

to get to twelve thirty. Twelve thirty, all right, Well that's it for Mick shots on this Monday. When we coming back week from Thursday, week from this Thursday, at eleven thirty, right, I started questioning myself did I get eleven? I did not want to be wrong, because you enough, I figured I figured if I get here early, at least it's like, hey, where you at? Alrighty, So we'll see you next Thursday. For Bill and Everson and Chris um Mickey, and thanks for joining us on Mick Shots Cowboys

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