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With Nate joining the show again, the guys were mighty impressed with the Bears win over New England, especially the performance of QB Justin Fields. Then a long discussion on the number of young guys the Cowboys are relying on and some breaking news with the Cowboys trading for jumbo veteran DT Johnathan Hankins to beef up the middle.

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The following. Here's a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club Cowboys. This is Mick Shot screaming live on Dallas Cowboys dot Com and the official Dallas Cowboys apt now. Here are Bill Jones, Everson Walls, and Nicky Spagnola. It's noon on a Tuesday inside the SWBC podcast studio here at the Beautiful Star in Frisco, and it's time for another edition of Mick Shots. Mickey Spagnola is here, Bill Jones is here, Nate Newton is

here for the vacationing Everson Walls. How many times can you come out of the bullpen and pitch five innings? Well, he's going back to back, Yeah, back to back days. Gonna have a sore arm. No, sir, that's what they paid men. I'm not like these new kids. This is Goose gassage. Yes, going back in the day, and yeah, I'll give you. He'll give you a three inning save. Back to back days. Yes, there you go. All right.

You know he started with the white sex. Well we always have to bring it back to Chicago as well. That's a good thing. And we're going to Chicago today. That's right, because all of a sudden, the Monsters of the Midway are aheaded to Hear noon Sunday to take on the Cowboys. They reared their bare heads last night, didn't they. Boy? So that wasn't the team we expected to say, it was not, and certainly not the offense

um I would like to point out. And not only was that the highest scoring game the Bears have had since they drafted justin Fields, that was his absolute best performance, just in time to come to AT and T Stadium on Sunday. Now, I don't know if that was, you know, the blue moon but here, I don't know, but he was awfully good. There was some kind of moon out there in New England. And I've got a sportswriting college roommate retired already, but he's the biggest Bears fan ever.

He was one of those guys where so John In nineteen seventy four the Bears played Dotta do and he'd give me the score of the game. Right. He claims that was fields best performance of his career. And I don't think that's going out on a limb to look at what he did in that game. Yeah, because he threw for one hundred and seventy nine yards, that's right, and he probably he probably hadn't done that very much. And he ran for eighty two. But here was the

key thing. He was eleven of eighteen on third down and ten of those were in his hand, either running or throwing. And that's what the old regime brought him in there fourth to be a true dual threat quarterback. And this kid has figured it out. Now. I mean, he had a couple of nice reads and when he those reads wasn't there. He took the ball down and he got into the floor of a game. And what scared me, Mick, and what scared me Bill is once

he really stopped feeling confident. Now, you saw, well a couple of times they had this kid totally bottled up, and like Houdini, he came out of there and got almost a ten yard loss turned into a twenty yard game for first now, and you saw his confidence started to grow. I mean, he was nonchalant during the game, not but as as the game went on, you saw him on the sideline, he kind of started being that

guy we saw is it Ohio State? As I got him right right, yes, and uh, he stopped becoming that kid and boy, it's just gonna be exciting to watch him come in here and see what you do against his top ranked defense. The other thing I thought was of concern is with his eighty two yards rushing. They ran for two hundred and forty three yards. Wow. Now, I don't know what New England's got, but well, New

England before last night seemed to be rounding in the form. Right, New England can stop to run that don't ever ask Cleveland and asks the team before that, Detroit, Yeah, so they can stop the run. Bill believes in that. Do you out of want you running in the middle. I do not want you running outside. I want to make you one dimensional. What I can ga in third and long? Well, I can put these top notch corners on you one on one. He did not allow that to happen. They

stayed with the chains all night. Me well, and I don't know if the other running backs that was it Montgomery and Herbert Herbert. Yeah, if they were effective because Fields is running for eighty two yards and it kind of distracted the attention on maybe them, But that was pretty impressive running performance. Yeah. Check the history of coach Belicheu. He's nervous the only thing ever made him nervous is a running quarterback, a very athletic quarterback. Check him, check

him in that and that. He'll tell you you mentioned running quarterback, and he'll say, well, just you know, he kind of muddles out. Do you know what I'm saying? Did you see any of his postgamee No? No? What did he say? What did he say? Oh? God? Did you did you change quarterbacks from Fields to ZAPPI from John No, I mean Jones to Zappy because of performance? That was the plan, was that the plan like to go to him so much the rest of the game.

We were going to play two quarterbacks. They just kept going odd and they kept trying, and I don't think he gave one answer more than eight words. Here's here's what I loved about it. Okay, So it's only Belichick could do this or would do this. All right, So, assuming Jones is healthy, which he was because he started the game right and that was another of the questions. Okay, yes, all right, So he elects to go with the quarterback who two years ago was the quarterback of a one

in three Houston Baptist team in a COVID shortened year. Okay, over the guy that two years ago was the consensus All American Davey O'Brien Award winner for the national champion Crimson Tide of Alabama. And it's a meritocracy, and that it's a meritocracy. It was it was for it was for one half, right, because if you look at the two touchdowns that they scored, the kid came in and through those were like kind of one in one hundred

completion passes that the guys made great catches on. And then the whole second did they even score in the second half. But Mick he went, He went against the parcels Jimmy Johnson theory. They they believe in riding the hot hand. They look at their locker rooms and see who their players, that player made that play for that kid,

right receiver. Right, that ain't been happening for Jones, even though Jones has been And so what coach Belichick is gonna have with his coaching staff is who do we start. We can't. We may play this game, but we know it's not gonna work because you're gonna split your locker room. You're gonna this ain't what we have over here with the Cowboys where it is a big difference. This kid is winning, and he's winning by him, not not He's not the problem that how you put that, He's winning

because he is he Okay, he makes no mistakes. It ain't no. Well like we did Cooper Rush and and I didn't want to bring this kid into it. Well we win in despite of him. The defense is okay, whatever you want to put This kid is zappy whatever his name name, the piece of guy name. Yo. Yeah, he winning because he's a bad man. That's what I'm in.

Except he got shut out the second half. It's okay to different games when you're playing down thirty three to fourteen, right, yes, or twenty to fourteen, right, because that's where it's Well, it was twenty six fourteen at one point, I mean right, no, what I'm saying, But the picks came after they it was twenty six spots. Now you got to throw the ball. But that was a Bears defense that looked very much like Matt Eberflus. Yes, Louse had him playing. How about

Robert Quinn. Yeah, I'm gonna tell you something. Uh, you know, a lot of people probably don't remember. It was a little bit of a debate when he was leaving. They wanted to hold on coach Eberflus because who he was, young talent. You know, it wasn't a big rumble, but it was just enough to know that we let loose a good guy. And you go back and check him with the Colts. He had them boys playing, Yeah, he had them and you wasn't gonna run the ball. But he was not going to run the ball. You know.

He was destined to be a defensive coordinator. Yes, maybe you know he was a pretty darn good defensive coordinator in college. I might add, yes, sir, what college was that mean? The University of Missouri? Oh? Real, Okay, I figured it. He needed it. He's a disciple of Gary Pinkel, Okay, from Toledo, I think that's right. That's right, Toledo and came to Missouri with Pinkel and became the defensive coordinator, and then went to Cleveland and came here with Rob

Ryan and outlasted Rob Ryan by the way. Yes, and then it was on Marinelli with Marinelli's staff here and uh and did a good job with the Colts too, And that's how he got the head coaching job. And you know, and I was always a little concerned to how he would handle the big room, like to have the voice. And then I saw his postgame uh speech in the locker room right afterwards, that that he's grown.

That that that's the you know, the Matt Everflus I think people knew when he was growing up in Ohio. So no walkovers in this league, that's yeah. Asked Tampa Bay, right, asked Green Bay. Watch out list goes on and on. So the Chicago Bears coming to town, and you know, and the other thing with the Bears the type offense they run. I understand it's you know, different than than

the Eagles. However, when you've got the threat of the running quarterback, that's that's the interesting matchup this week now against this Cowboys defense, yep, because they've had problems. I mean, we just got to look at Philadelphia, right. They had problems with hurts Um. You know, they even and I remember the numbers, I can look it up real quick, but even a little bit with Daniel Jones when he took off running in the Giants game. They had problems

with that too. So um, you know the interesting one that they didn't have problems with Tom Brady because they knew where he was going to be that loss. You know what, it's starting to look bad. Well, teams change as the season goes along. Well, you know it, it's gonna remind if it keeps going this way. Reminds me of last year when they should have beaten Tampa Bay. All the points they left on the field and what

lost on the walk off field goal. That game cost him being the second seed in the playoffs and they would have bypassed San Francisco in that first round. That's how close they were to getting their tops, you know, the way I look at that, and how many games do the Cowboys win in a row after that last year? Sometimes if you win that first game, you're not gonna on the same role because a lot of when you look back at it, that was a game they could

have won and got to Steam wins. And now you say, wow, okay, we lost the opener. It was New England and Brady. Well they ain't New They're not I mean Tampa Bay and Brady. They maybe not be Tampa Bay and Brady just yet. We got we got two more games before we get the thing in around about the Thanksgiving or of November, because we got a game this weekend and we got the breaking right yet and so now we come back and we're in the middle of the season.

So all right, So the preseason ended in September after four games, so the regular season startled nine October. Yeah, and so the middle of the season will be out of this bye week. The bye week is what you can. Yeah. And so but one thing you cannot say, whether it's injuries or whoever you know who you are, coaches know there, whether they should know who they are. One thing that I'm amazed at this year, and I may didn't notice

the next year. Last year, Mick was the griping and the willingness of players to come out and say I want to play, get rid of me. So I'm saying a lot of that. But other than that, the season is playing right alone. Just playing right alone. I mean evra Flus, he is clearing the room of mistakes. And what I mean by that minimal mistakes of We're not going to play games waiting on somebody to do something

to make a mistake. We're going to play games. It's like who we're gonna make Who's gonna make the play? And that's what Jimmy had to clear our just clear our system of all case the fourth quarters, five minutes left, who's going to make the mistake to lose the game? You know, like kind of like Detroit did last week. It's like, who's gonna make the mistake to turn the game around and put us in a bad way? And that's what I think coach Evra Flus is doing with

this young team. Even though he didn't draft this quarterback and he brought in his own staff, they're starting to figure out who their players are, who can do what, and they're starting to believe as players, you know what. And it kind of reminds me a little bit of this roster. He's not afraid to play those young kids. Oh you can't. Yeah. I remember at the very first meeting where they were in thought and you got Missus Jones and the whole crew up there, and he said,

we gotta play the young guys. We can't be afraid. He said, He's never been afraid, and they are playing the young guys. In saying with Coach Everflus, you if you're gonna go down, you gotta go down always trying to improve. You can't go down waiting, you know, if you feel a guy in your heart. You could be wrong, but if you feel a guy's not right for your system, you gotta move him over if you got somebody that's

a competing with him, you know. So I'm with you, man, And they've got in their secondary, they've got two second round draft picks, Kyler Gordon, who had an interception late in the game, and Jaquan Brisker out of Penn State. That guy was pretty cool. We are both playing um playing well, and they're relying on them. And you can tell. You could tell Kyler Gordon on that interception. He's got

some playmaking ability about him. Yeah, so yeah, no, so yeah, heads and I guarantee you eberflus them being defensive guys, especially, he had a big say in picking those guys. Yep, yea, yeah, I agree. So heads up to the Dallas Cowboys. All right. So a word of warning there, and we got much more to get to on a Tuesday in which the practice field is empty out there as we walked in to do the show today. A player's day off here at the Star, but there's no day off for us

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straight NFC North opponents. Okay, he get to win over Detroit, and then this week Chicago and then it's bye week, then it's at Green Bay and at Minnesota. Then on Thanksgiving Day the Cowboys will play the Giants and then they start a stretch against the AFC South. Same thing. Basically, it maybe one week in there where they don't not play. Do you have their schedule in front of you? They

do what you got after the Giants. After the Giants is Indianapolis, Houston, Jacksonville, Philadelphia gets in the way, and then Tennessee. So four out of the next five you're going to JFC South. I don't know, it's a scheduling quirk there. So looking ahead, Indianapolis has win week thirteen. Who will be the quarterback of the Indianapolis Colts when the Cowboys play them in December? Is there somebody behind

Sam ellen It's Nick Foles. So you got so yesterday Matt Ryan and he's got a shoulder issue, but he got benched for Sam Allinger, and Frank Reich makes the announcement that Ellinger is going to be the quarterback the rest of the season. It's not just for this game. They're going forward with Ellinger as their quarterback. So my question is Ellinger's going to still be the quarterback week thirteen when they come here, He'll get hurt. Now, isn't

that his deal? Didn't he have like injury problems at Texas? No, he was just running quarter tough guy. Yeah, tough guys are like brave pie. Here's what's interesting, and it's cowboy related. On that move by Frank Reich. It reminds me of two thousand and six. Week six, Cowboys were three and three. This was Week seven. The Colts are three three and one. Kay the Colts with thirty seven year old Matt Ryan.

The Cowboys had thirty four year old Drew Bledsoe, and the Cowboy always had a quarterback that they liked behind him who hadn't played in a game outside of holding on field goals and extra points. And here's Ellinger who's twenty four years old. Romo is twenty six years old. So Romo replaces Bledsoe at halftime of that game against the Giants in Week six. Cowboys wound up losing that game. And what people may not remember is Romo actually through

three interceptions in the second half of that game. Also two touchdown might have been the first passing through yeah, there you go, and uh, always a pick six, I think yes. And so then the next week they played Carolina and at Carolina, and I think it's three straight road games that Cowboys had coming up, and they win that thirty five fourteen, and the rest is history. And now Tony Romos in the CBS broadcast booth alongside Jim Nance.

So if Sam Ellinger gonna follow the Tony Romos, securitous roy. But it's interesting. I mean, it was almost like the same situation. Even if you look at the stat Bledsow that year had thrown eight interceptions against seven touchdown passes. He was the number one pick in the draft. Ryan was the third pick in the draft. Okay, and Ryan this year nine picks, nine touchdown pass this place, he's

fumbled a ton of times. And so it's it's kind of the same mindset that Reich has with his Colts team, and what happened with the Cowboys that year in two thousand and six up ended up in the playoffs. They go six and four the rest of the way, and so people are thinking Frank Reich's crazy for saying that

Ellinger is his quarterback the rest of the season. Well, I don't know if Parcels actually came out and said Romo is the quarterback the rest of the season, but it was obvious he was giving the reins of the team to Romo at that point. It turns out they went six and four and made the playoffs. He saw one too many interceptions in that game against the Gihonas, and Frank Reich saw one too many interceptions from Matt Ryan.

It was at the end of the half and he threw a pass and I could still see parcel saying I told him not to throw passes like that. I'm sick of them. And he walked into the locker room and said, we're going with Romo. And see, that's what I think. I think the Indianapolis coach is hoping that he has found a Tony Romo here. And now what Ellinger had that Romo didn't have. He was a draft pick. He was a sixth round pick and Romo was not.

So I mentioned the Cowboys playing young guys. Let's count him up, because they've put some young guys in, you know, significant situations, right or less experienced guys. I should say the Tyler Smith deal. They kind of went with him. I don't know your take on it, Nate, but he seems to get better with each game, like he's improving. Yeah, what it is. I was trying to figure out why he was giving up give it the sacks in the last three games. You're giving up four sacks, I think

three or four sacks. And I was listening to Broadest because you know, Broadest Scout's pretty good, and because one thing Broughtest said is he gets up high. But my thing is he lets people get to his body before he stabs with his left hand. He's a left handed guy. He plays on the left. I don't know if he's left handed natural, but he's normally a left handed guy who played on the left side. What I've been taught is that your hands gots your feet, you know, let

your hands guts your feet. And so as I'm sliding and kicking back and my foot is trying to split Bill, I get my hand on the nearest point. I'm hoping it's your chest. If I can hit your face match right quick, when I can get it off, you know, to stunt you. That's what I'm trying to do. But he lets people get so close. That's what I want as a deep this lineman. I want to get close. I want to be able to move you. You know, the close I get, the better I am, you know.

And so he's got a get a better punch. He's strong as an ox, and I gotta do his punch, you know, boo boohim a six inns punch and he can read that record throw a guy off. Uh, this guy wasn't been in the corner. I thought this guy was Ben in the corner and really getting him. You know, he wasn't been in the corner. He just used his speed and he got him in a bad position because he let him get so close to him. And it's easy to step around. Oh yes, it's easy to step

around and Ben in the corner then. And so but he's he's he plays well. One thing about it. He's got a short memory. He plays hard and when in the majority of the time he's gonna get his guy. I mean, somebody past situation didn't run. He gonna he gonna get on you. You know. Yeah. That was one of the things that Jason Peters was uh supposedly explained to him once he got here, was about you need to get to your spot first. Yes, you need to not wait for the guy to make a move on you.

You make the move on the guy. And I think that's kind of what you're saying. Yeah, get your get your hands a year. The thing is, you gotta know your range. Once you learn your range, my range was you know, I played with my hands kind of here. Yeah. I didn't play back here, you know, because Moms was already shorter than most people. So I played with them kind of out so I can boom. I get a quick punch and you know, once you get that punch,

then you can start fighting. But if you're waiting on the guy to make a move and you don't know where you're gonna punch you at. You know, if he if you punch and he go inside, you are bounce. You know, if you're late with a punch, he and he and he even with you. We have the devas. Evnds have the same theory as wide receivers. Wide receivers tell you this, if I get even with you, if I get even with you, I'm leaving you. I know the route, I know where I'm going. You gotta turn

to make a move. I'm gone. And that's what That's the same way with the devons. Even if they get even with you, that's either inside of you outside they're gone. You don't know what's happening. You don't because you don't lost a sense of where the quarterback at. Say that was the problem that Brown was having last night. They're left tackle, yes with Quinn, Yes he was. He was letting Quinn get on him. Yes, and that's why he jumped a couple of times. Yeah, for dear life. Yes,

so young guy there they were using Farniac right. Found the role for one other thing on Tyler Smith is the guys that have gotten the sacks against him have been pretty good players. Yeah. Yeah, that's all well and good. But that's why he's left time. You're gonna have it pretty good. Yeah, that's right, because Hutchinson got him Aidan Hutchinson in this game, and then the other two were Aaron Donald. Yes, yeah, so yes, so yeah, but yeah, you're right. You're gonna go up against the Aarondle and

second picks in the draft. Yeah, playing left tackle, and so you gotta Yeah, and that's why I say he's got a short memory, because he came back and he he he blocked him like three or four times. I mean got his hands inside and just handling him. And you don't want that. You don't want that expecting when your quarterback is freshly coming back. You know, Uh, they did, would have had to do this kid is okay? You know. And fifty years ago Rayfield right went up against Deacon Jones.

J Yeah, so the Deacon Jones actually didn't know what that's right, you know what I'm saying, slapped him in the head. Very Donald said the same thing to Tyler. All right, go ahead, maybe so I was gonna say, Uh, they were using forniac. Unfortunately that you lose them now has one that's probably the rest of the season. I mean, it's if it's six weeks by time you get back, it's eight. Uh. And they were using them as a fullback, which is a shame because McCarthy likes using a fullback.

If you look at his days in Green Bay, he always had a fullback. Um, maybe Jason Peters can play fullback when no let Yeah, I'm I'm not trying to be funny, coach. It's a lot of guys guys out there that can play fullback, that can really block, yeah, and that and that can really catch, don't don't know. I was kind of tongue in cheek. Yeah, I think they can use Gifford. Gifford job. Yeah, I'm the goal line right. Yeah. I mean he's he's got the mentality that, yes,

throw himself in there. Yes, sir, and there you go. Make Now when you have your little secret meetings with coach, Yeah, let him know all the guys. You know, you know you told me show because y'all had a little secret meeting on Friday. Yea, Friday's okay. The bigger question, who's the backup center? They're gonna have to bring Lyndstrom? Yeah, the Boston college kids, so then be that? Can he be the fullback? Yeah? I don't. I don't. Probably I'm

trying to. I'm trying to picture Ferguson do it or one of the times he's the best block out all of them. Let Ferguson do it, you know, because put forty eight on him again like he had in the preseason. Yeah, you know, he's got the mental lay to do it. Yeah, because I ain't trying to be funny, but Dalton ain't gonna get hurt no more. Dak is back, So Dalton's

Dalton's gonna try his best to block. I mean, if Dalton could can survive that new issue that happened in the game on Sunday, he can get back out there for sure. And then speaking of that, the two rookie tight ends they're playing, That's what I'm saying. Two more guys and they got the one. Even the guy, the third guy we have one on the practice squad is yeah he is. They faded him. Uh for special teams purposes? Right? Is he a young guys? Third year? Now? Yeah? Borderline, y'all.

I take legs right here. If we if this team, I can say, with these young guys, uh, you ain't mentioned the young guys on defense, ain't got there yet. But it's not there when we come back here about that. Okay, more young guys here on the Old Guys show and just a moment, nay they all we paid how much for those lessons? She's doing great? Oh yeah, totally. Can you pass me a pepsi zero sugar? Great job, honey, Oh look at that. That's not the end, no way.

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golly wow. Halloween coming up on Monday. Don't come to Miles now, yeah, I'm come to myuth. My wife. I think she give out candy, does good woman? Yeah yeah, well we give out great stuff. It wrapped up in packages. We don't do too. Yeah, no other way of doing it because you want kids to be safe. That's right, all right, young guys, young guys and young guys. Here we're gonna go. We mentioned the tight ends the offensive lineman, um defense, so we're gonna go right to Dron Bland. Yes,

with Jordan Lewis out for the season. Uh, with the Liszt frank H fracture. Uh. And did you see it how it happened? Yes, you're right, Yeah, yeah, I saw it right away. I like, wow, to do we hit it? But anyway, let's talk about it. But anyway, yeah, Bland came in for him and came in for him in the Cincinnati game when um Jordan Lewis had the growing strain in warm ups and played well. And so you keep these guys active. And now okay, it's game eight

and I need you durn Brand. And it looks like, you know, he's probably the first choice up to take a spot in the slot. Corner. I'm loving it, Nate. When I saw this kid in training camp and I saw him playing, and even when he got beat I think in the third or fourth preseason game he got beat on a pass, I was like learning. This kid is learning, so I think that he just gets better with each thing. He goes to a bill, what's up his hands? Raising my hand because we need a breaking

news alert. Okay, breaking new, breaking news sounder. Okay. However, Savason gives us a breaking news sounder. Right, I think I got one for you. Here we go, Okay, here we go. What do we got? According to Ian Rappaport, the Las Vegas Raiders are trading veteran defensive tackle Jonathan Hankins to the Dallas Cowboys for draft compensation. Tom Pellicero reports the Cowboys will send a twenty twenty three sixth round pick to the Raiders for Hankins and get back

a twenty twenty four seventh round pick. So there you have it. Do we know anything about Jonathan hank He has fallen behind in Las Vegas defensive line rotation, so this makes sense for the Raiders to cash in for a pick. Meanwhile, Dallas adds another competent player to an already ferocious defense, though they didn't have a huge need at defensive tackle on paper according to well that guy.

So that is curious because they had just signed Carlos Watkins to the fifty three man roster off the practice squad and with Neville Gallimore this last game. So either one of those guys might get traded to get something back. And I know I'm saying this and is ugly what I'm about to say. Uh, if we're going to trade somebody, I really don't care unless you get something better than what we're trading. I'm in like a sixth round yeah, because if Hankins can come in here and force one

eyed guys out through playing better, it's all for the good. Uh. But I just don't you know, a sixth round pick, uh, philth round pick. All of that's good and well, they hit every blue moon, But what we need is guys that can come in and either improve our rotation because that's what we look. I mean, you're talking with Hankins, a thirty year old guy who was a second round draft pick of the Giants in twenty thirteen. Yeah, and he's out of the rotation with the Raiders, who are

not having a very good season right now. Last year he started fourteen games for the Raiders, thirty eight tackles. You know, he's a big, inside run stopping type defensive tackle. So it doesn't make me think that the Cowboys are going to trade a defensive linement. It tells me that they've got an issue on their defensive line and their need they need to bring in some help. But if they're bringing in this guy, then you might have too

many defensive tackles. Well, that's that's my I'm wondering if they've got an injury issue that we don't know. Yeah, and since Neville Gallimore was an act of this last game, I will I don't know what his status is going forward or not. He had a wrist listed, but he was full so right, But and then Bohannah had been listed with a neck problem, and so when was Bohannon list with? Yeah, after no, he ended up being inactive I think in Philadelphia because they were looking for well,

not Bohannon. Bohannon. He played against Philadelphia, right, well, one game he was inactive, okay, and then they decided they wanted somebody that was more versatile, like could go lateral more than just be a state bump. Um Mickey, I know you like PF right, Yeah, okay, Hankins is great, better against the run than every Dallas Cowboys defensive tackle except for Tristan Hill. I'm telling you. I remember Hankins at the James Oh yeah, he was like, yeah, not

run against him. Yeah, he's your metal guy. If he comes to play, he could be what the doctor ordered. If he comes to play, he can be what the doctor ordered. And nine times out of ten, when you trade a player from a team that's struggling to a team that's that's winning, they know him to come in and give their best, best, best effort. You know what I'm saying. It's like that show the old team, see what you're missing, you know? So that's that's I hope

this guy give his best effort making it. I mean, good breaking news. But that young man thing, I liked it. I liked it. So we can get we can get back to the young players we just broke first. Some old players just mine just went rob Where are you man? Get your look at him? You know you don't have papers from nineteen eighty six when they drafted him. Must have been don't worry me. Bohannah must have been inactive on Sunday because he's not listed as not active. Bohana

Bohanna had twenty four snaps. No, he's on about eight games ago. Mix. Stop what he's talk about. Well, I'm looking at this. Gallimore was inactive on Sunday. Bohannah had twenty four snaps and he played against Philadelphi and the game that he missed was the Rams Rams game. Okay, all right, okay, can we moved forward on me? Please? Please get back on track with the young guys that well, we've established that an old guy's coming here. Okays, trying to get rid of these young guys about to talk

about but as Hankins different than Bohannah, Yes, another young guy. Yes, he's the second round picking Bohanna was what a sixth rounder? Yeah, yes, he will help in that rotation. If this guy understands he's going to play twenty snaps at the most, he's gonna give it his all and it'll be first and second down, he should be coming out in other situations unless it easybody to just press the center for the clothes the pocket a little bit. So he had twenty

four snaps. He must have zeroed out because he's not listed on any participations on defense. Okay, Bland back to the Yes, can we get back to Bland? Yes we can. Wow. So you like him in the slot? Yeah? And I thought he would be playing at least seventy percent of the time when the season started. I thought he had took somebody position or forced people to at least split time with him. But I guess coach wanted Coach Quinn and Coach Harrison wanted guys that knew their system for

the and been into the second year. Was he the guy that ended the practice against the Chargers with that interception? Yes? Yes, in the zone right, Yes, this, I mean I liked the kid and uh he shows to have great savvy man and and I just to me and and unlike Sam Williams, this kid plays under control. That's why they, Yeah, taper Sam down like another yeah, young guy, another young guy. Yeah, and they tapering him down. I mean you could see, you know, coming out of training camp, you thought this

kid had a vendetta gets tight ends. It's just every time they lined up tight end up on him, it was almost a fight. I mean, because he would not let him go, he would just literally man handle And where okay, and where has Bland been practicing all along?

And where is Kelvin Joseph been practicing? The Sean Wrights the other one that we haven't mentioned who from last year's draft to third round pick who clearly is an outside corner right, and he Land is the Bland is the obvious replacement for right for Lewis as a slot

And then you mentioned right being he'll be active. That doesn't mean he's gonna play, but because he's been a special team standpoint that sort of thing, and what you would do, correct me if I'm wrong, If you went with one of the other guys, then Brown is playing in the slot right, right, So but then you would

make two changes to fix one. We're here. You just Bland is a valuable guy, yeah, and he proved it right off the bat in training camp, in preseason games and against Cincinnati when he got the spur of the moment an opportunity to play a full game in the slot. So since he'll tackle too, he's a winning tackle. Yeah. Since Bohannah had twenty four, he was Since Bohannah had twenty four snaps, and that's another young guy. Yeah. Yeah, that they're relying on and they're getting good get getting

good reps from Tristan Hill. This is what I like about. And I'm see as an ex player, if a dude got the best of me, it's just some reason. I got to figure out why he got the best of me, and this can't happen again. And if I'm Bohanna, I'm just taking out that Philadelphia tape over and over because it don't matter what the next guy can do to me, because you just face the beasts. You just faced one of the top centers in the NFL. Find out what he did, learn how to defeat that, and the rest

of the guys will fall right in place. Like when I played against the Ron Brown, I worried about what he did because once I could play even I would get the best of Jerome Brown. God rest his soul that I didn't worry about the rest. I truly didn't worry about the rest. So all or what you're looking up now, man, just trying to make sure bo Hannah missed the Rams game. Yeah yeah, yeah, Okay, don't don't

say that. There are there are coaches on this staff also that have familiarity with Jonathan Hankins as he was with Indianapolis when Philbin was obviously Philiban was on the offensive stall and then it's time with the Giants, uh as well, um so, and you look back early in his career, Hankins actually his second year of the league had seven sacks. Yeah, I'm telling you, you know on my show that they you know, they put you know, hey, what would you do right now if our offense don't

get any better right now today? What was the biggest thing which you would do? Nate? And I told must I would go out and get me a proven run stopping knows. I don't want to. I got a three technique that penetrates. I got old he get up field if we get That's what Gallim wanted to just get up field. So I got guys that can do that. I need a guy that's going to allow my linebackers

to come down. This is when when when um Randy White used to do our Cowboys game day pregame show on CBS eleven, he was always every year, I want that big Bazooka in the middle. Yes, and this is what Hankins, he's listening sixty three, three hundred forty pounds, right, he is the he's not He's not the same player when he came into the league of three hundred and twenty pounds where he can run enough to get a

seven sacks in the season. But he's the big bazooka that the manster is looking for in the middle of the defense. Don't do that. Tony did that. I think he lost his voice after the game, and Tony trying to do the coach voice, but the Detroit Tony had did a whole like thirty five seconds out that his voice wasn't right well. And Watkins played, uh twenty some snaps. He had three tackles in the game. But walk he's

kind of that guy though. But see what Walks is is moved from a position down right, He's has he always been that big guy. I don't think he's always been right heavy. He spread more of the Yeah, yeah, he's been more of that five technique five technique and what and what he's did a few times he stonewalled the guy. But but he couldn't get off the block. It took it took his punch and everything you had

just to stop the guy. Yeah, he came here. Watkins was like a five techn yeah three four with Houston right three three h five yeah yeah yeah right, And Hankins is three forty is what he's listed. Three forty, that's what he's listed right now. So there you go. Yeah, so you got a speed bump in there now. I hope he a little bit more on the speed bump, probably like a cattle filler at least can roll a

little bit. You know. The other option was moving Jason Peters to defense, right, and so they instead put Jonathan Hankins there. You know, I respect everything mister Peterson has done, and I'm saying mister because he's forty. I respect everything he's done. I respect what he's given it to these young players. But Fellas, this is what I feared. He cannot give you seventy snaps. No, no, no, he's the backup. Yeah, he cannot give you. And everybody keeps saying no, Look

look at the film. Everybody keep telling me they got all twenty two. And then they all tenmiate that Peterson should be starting this kid McGovern. And I know he's supposed be talking about young guys, but this kid McGovern is playing. Yes he's not. Yes, he's gonna get defeated badly a couple of times. But having been sacks and then having been big yards for loss, you know it's been for no games. You know, one yard loss. There ain't been no three, four or five yards in the backfield.

Quarterback get is getting truck. Now he's gotten truck, but he's kept his body between whatever he was protected. You know what I'm saying. All right, we're out of time. Oh that was good. I needed to give you this. Okay,

Mick shot injury report to finish the show. Okay, So I'm walking off after the game down the hallway and Dak Prescott comes walking by, and I said, so we can shake hands now, And he held his hand out and he goes yes, and we shook hands, and he goes, I told you I could do it two weeks ago. I said yeah, but you said gently. Yeah. So I got a stiff handshake with right hand from Dak. Press all right, So here we are. We have finally feared out.

Dak is ready to go. I'm glad we could talk about him and he helping the team win that talking about him when he was sitting on the satline, like there you go, Nate, we love you. Filling in forever Soon where'd you go? Thank you all for having me man, And next time and we make sure Mick don't get stuck in a time war. It's tough to do. That's what we're all about here on Mick Shots. We'll talk

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