Mick Shots: A Good Bye

bill Um. You know, not to make light of the situation, but I think the Cowboys are being cautious with the COVID protocols, which hasn't left a whole lot of work for me to do. So I'm chilling and happy to talk some cowboys with y'all. All right, very good. So you survived the first your first appearance on mix Shots yesterday without incident. It did, Yeah, so we can make it through another forty five minutes. HECMA unable to be here today, so we will press on for the next

forty five minutes. And Mickey, you wouldn't believe how many notes he has in front of him. This reminds me I used to hear stories when Norma Hitskis used to do Rangers baseball games. Tom Grieve told me that they would have a three man booth. It would be Mark Holtz, Tom Grieve, and Norma Hitzkis and a space about four feet wide, and Hitskis would take up about three feet of the four feet with all his notes just all

taped down. That's what Mickey has right now. I was prepared for yesterday because we didn't think you were going to be with us, so I was going to have to run the show, and I wanted to make sure I had all my son, you can run this show. How about we do that. You're good to go, all right? But I had my notes ready in case we ran out of things to talk about, as if we would run out of things to talk about, right, especially gonna say there's no chance of that. Come on right, Yeah,

that's right in, Dave. But since we last talked, you don't you not only don't have a Cowboys game to watch this weekend, you don't have an LSU game to watch either, LSU Alabama. Uh, it looks like I canceled for the whole season now, which is a good year for LSU. If if you're not gonna play Alabama one year, this would be the year not to play them, right, I never in my life thought that I would be

excited that LSU's not gonna play football. But yeah, my Saturday is a lot more free, and I'm not mad about it because that was probably gonna be ugly. So yeah, I don't know. Maybe I'll go find a farmer's market or a pumpkin patch. I don't I don't know. I don't know what people do when there's no foot ball on, but I guess I gotta figure it out. That's right, all right? So how do you fee right behind them too? Because they canceled the Missouri Georgia game? Did they really? Yes, well,

the SEC just canceled the whole weekend. Yeah, it sounds basically yeah, Z and M still playing. No, they're yeah, they got canceled too. They know they do have a common open date where they can make it up December twelfth, because Georgia can't do it. I think there's like, yeah, yeah, that's what they're worried about right now. But LSU doesn't

have to worry about the SEC championship game, so it's okay. Yeah, and the uh, the big twelve already, they basically had an open date setting their schedule of this week because Texas didn't playing OU and OSU play next week Bedlam, so they're not playing this week. So so anyway, the point of all this is what don't we do? What are we going to do for football this week? Which brings me to my first question out of the shoot to both of you, do you, as a as a member of the media or as a fan, do you

like the byeway? No? I don't be guys. Here's the deal with the bye week. I think everybody. I think there's this perception out there since the team is off, we're off. We still got to do our jo. I find myself doing more work during the bye week because you don't have any subjects with you, right, that's right, well in your crammy. We still have to do all the shows, but we're doing it in four days time

instead of six days times. People, So at some point there will be a light at the end of this tunnel. But more than that, and I think from a fans' perspective, all right, I want my Cowboys game on Sunday, okay, And I understand if you look down the schedule here. Okay, the Cowboys are off this week. They play on a Sunday next week at Minnesota, and then okay, yeah, there is a Thanksgiving Day game, and there is a Thursday

night game against Baltimore. But three out of the next four Sundays the Cowboys don't have a game, And it's not like we're traveling the games, right, yep. I think y'all are absolutely and I think y'all are crazy. Are you kidding me? The bye week is great. I mean, it's a fair point relax for the first time since August fifth, I'm gonna try my best to do nothing. I mean, it's a little bit different this year because

you're not traveling. You know, training camp was nowhere near as intense this year as it is in a regular year. But by the time you get to the bye week, I'm ready to just like lie down on my couch for like three days. Bill, you make a great point. You kind of have to cram a lot of work into the early part of the week. I don't know about y'all, but when I get done with this show, I got a couple of things left to right and then I'm gonna try my best to like turn my

phone off on Thursday and Friday. And as far as being a fan, I feel like people people lose sight of this. But not playing is great because you can't lose when you don't play, so your week's stress free, especially when you're don't have to worry about losing a ball game. I can, you know, if I want to spend Sunday making you know, I can spend all day making a pot of gumbo if I want to. I could go out and visit people I don't. I can do whatever I want because I don't have to spend

eight hours at at and T Stadium. I am firmly in favor of it. I'm sorry that y'all are workaholics, but I am not. So you'd be in favor of going back to having two bye weeks in a season, Oh, sign me up? Yeah, I mean, and if they're gonna if they're gonna increase the schedule, you know, if they're gonna wind up playing eighteen games, I would guess we'll see that. And yeah, I mean, so you talk about

you know again, Let's let's consider a regular year. You report to training camp on like July eighteenth, and then the regular season's gonna run until mid January. Yeah, you're gonna need to bye weeks for the players, but for me too. For sure. It just seems like it's a week of work without a game, and to me, the bonure payoff, the bonus of what we do is we get to go cover a game, we get to go to a game and watch a game. Now you work

and there's no bonus at the end. Okay, Yeah, what is the most important three hours, three and a half hours of your week? Yeah? The game. It's the game, right, the game. Yeah. So that's a funny thing. You said that because my college roommate would get so upset when he was trying to write in a press box and it was so loud and people after the game, and he would scream, these are the three hours that are most important to me in my career. Shut the hell up.

That's funny. That's like Dave, we were talking about. We were talking about the interception that Gilbert threw um in the game on Sunday, and Everson was talking about how he was yelling at the TV and his wife didn't understand why he was yelling, and I did. He was on his cow and so on, Sunday, I'm watching the game from home, and I'm on my couch watching the game, and I'm logging every play, so I'm working as I'm

in I'm yelling at the TV too. At about that time that that play happened, my sister in law was in town from out of town. I hadn't seen her yet. She and my wife and my nephew. They walk into the house and I'm totally ignoring them because I'm so caught up into this game. And I just explained to him, this is the most important three hours of my week. I will say hello to you after this game was over. They went out on the back porch. So, y'all are

y'all are intense? Man, y'all are not playing games because I've never I've never been that guy. Like I kind of I work better in a noisy, busy environment. I kind of like to have people talking and maybe not distracting me, but it just kind of, I don't know, like that background noise kind of helps me focus on what I need to do. However, I think boys game is more like work. Don't try to don't try to talk to me during an LSU game. I will say that that's that's a whole different person than what I

am on Sundays, So I guess I identify with that. Yeah, all I know is I remember the two bye weeks. That was what was it two seasons maybe like in the early nineties. It was like ninety maybe, okay, eighty nine somewhere now, I think it was ninety nine one something like that. And you know where you're working for the newspaper. The newspaper doesn't take a bye, right, you gotta have something in there and people, yeah, absolutely, all right before we get uh oh, I just let I

hear everything y'all are saying. And obviously we do this job because we love it. I love covering the games, but covering a game is a ten hour experience, and I'm a okay not you know, getting a week where I don't have to do that, and I don't have to leave my apartment if I don't want too. I can channel surf during the other NFL games and see what's going on there. I'm I am just fine hanging out on my couch this weekend. I get it ten hours.

I'm going to fire up the smoker on Saturday. All right, Uh, there you go, all right. The NFL was yesterday, today's Wednesday, So they did it yesterday. The decision if there is a weekend or games lost where they cannot be made up to have the expanded playoff field sixteen team playoff field. What are you your thoughts on that. It sounds like they were very serious about doing it. I think it has to get okayed by the nfl PA. But yeah,

more the merrier, let's go it. It sort of worked so the couples more closer to the playoffs, right yutely, because yeah, but as I pointed out yesterday, there's fifteen teams in this league right now have no more than three wins, right, so you know there could be a fight to the finish to get to six. I hate to be a cynic. I hate to be a cynic. But do we think it really affects the Dallas Cowboys because I think, yeah, it's still they either got to win the East. Yeah, they got to win the East.

It's it's the East or bust. Well, and yeah, there's not a wild card coming out of the East. I can't remember where I say this stuff, And Dave you stopped me if I said it yesterday after Bill left or whatever. But the Cowboys only have one more game against the team with a winning record Baltimore. Yeah, that's it. So you're saying teams of their own six and one

as a possibility. I didn't say they're going to win every one of them because they putting beat Washington, right, I'm gonna say they've gotten their butts kicked by a few teams of their own ELK too, So yeah, but at least some of them. I mean Washington's really did I'm not sure where Arizona is. I lost track to them. They're winning and then no, what Arizona's like five and three?

I really didn't get their butts kicked by Philadelphia until they were able to return the fumble that wasn't that was recovered before they recovered it and ran for a touchdown? Or am I getting my games mixed? Right? So now you're right. So you're right, and Philadelphia has one more win than the Cowboys, that's right. It's gonna be interesting. I mean, your your logic is sound, but I gotta see a little bit more to believe it, because we got to see someone, you know, Yeah, this is a

two and seven team. Yeah, you're right, all right? Mickey, what's on how many legal pads you have in front of you? There? So I just got they all looked like but I didn't put it. So I had to give me one thing. Give us, give us one topic. We can go, take us to break. We can go to break on this. How about this? So it's Veterans Day? Right, Yeah, there you go, good one? All right? How about this? This is a letter dated April seventeenth of nineteen forty

five the Army Department. We sent this letter to you to my dad's mother, okay, all right, And they had sent a previous letter to her when he was missing in action. Okay, So she responded wanting more information. So it happened in at the Battle of the Bulge, which I think was like the end of December. It was around right after Christmas, because I remember seeing when I saw the movie there was snow on the ground or whatever.

So he had been missing. And so she sends a letter back to the Military Department whatever it is, and on April seventeenth, she gets this letter back. Dear Missus Spagnola, your letter inquiring about your son Dominic has been referred to this office for disposition. It has been carefully read, and we will keep We will attempt to answer all your questions. Your son Dominic was missing in action in Germany on the twenty first January nineteen forty five. During

an attack on a fortified position. On twenty one January nineteen forty five, a number of men in the battalion were moving toward a German town, this being their objective company being met enemy opposition and was cut off from their other supporting units, but it was impossible to reach them, although communication by radio was maintained for a period of forty eight hours. It is assumed that the men, including your son, were taken prisoner, but as yet no word

has been received by this headquarter. How would you like to be a parent of a child during World War two? And that's the letter you get. They have no idea where they're at. He had been a prisoner of war from January to a week after this letter arrived. He was liberated a week later, and they had no idea where they were. Wow. So my sister dug this out and sent it to me, and I've kind of hung onto it and I said what am I going to do with this? Right? And I was like, oh, it's

Veterans Day. Maybe because I heard some people reading letters today about their fathers or what they sent back home

or their grandfathers. Probably mostly. And yeah, a week later, he was liberated after four months in being moved from prison camp to prison camp because they had to keep him on the move because the Germans were retreating so and they would they would basically blindfold him and put them in the railroad cars so no one knew where they were going, so they couldn't like have any espionage and let somebody know where they were. So yeah, quite

an experience. But he was liberated, got back too. I think they got back to England and at a whole ninety five pounds. Wow. They didn't feed them. They were eating potatoes. Probably I saw it when he was his induction papers. He was like one hundred and forty, So, yeah, how about that man. They were eating potato skins before potato skins were appetizers because they had to peel the potatoes in the prison camps for the Germans that they would cook the potatoes and leave them with the skins.

So we're sitting here a nice dose of perspective. Yeah, we're sitting there talking to complaining about the cowboy gay buds. Yeah, yeah, thanks, Yeah, Like I said, that's something that's a hell of a perspective. I appreciated they had no game whatsoever. Right, good gracious wow it wanted answered P, I mean for your your grandmother, and answered. All I got to say is I keep telling people I'm like the miracle baby that he survived that um and and and I also had a purple

heart too. He got wounded at one point. At one point. And to answer your question of when the Battle of the Bulge occurred, December sixteenth, nineteen forty four, is when the counter offensive began and ended January twenty fifth, nineteen forty five. Yeah, like one week in two days, and it was like the turning point of World War two, at least in the European. Uh continent. Well, I think you found good use yes for mix shots there a

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too bad? Back to micked shots. Find out why this year's Dallas Cowboys cheerleaders making the team is the most competitive yet when season fifteen kicks off November twenty fourth at nine o'clock Central Time on c MT. Do you know the reason for that, Mickey? The reason that the reason that the Dallas Cowboys cheerleaders making the team is the most competitive yet because it was virtual? Were you judging this year? No? I did not report. My world

was supposed to have been gone at that time. So I told them I couldn't do it, and then things changed because they asked me in January. Right, It's like, now that weekend is already booked when they were going to have them here? Or was it? Or was what? Or was it I'm saying? Or was it? Because everybody's plans got thrown out the window. Yeah, so it turned out it wasn't booked. It wasn't I was booked at eight T and T. No, my trip was booked to New Orleans. Yeah, did it happened though, No, it did

not happen. All right, So that's November twenty fourth, nine o'clock Central time on c MT. Let's see today's the eleventh. So that's a Tuesday, November twenty fourth. I was just trying to figure out. I've got family coming into town on that Tuesday, and so now I know what we will be watching on Tuesday night Central Time. People watched that stuff. Yeah, I'll use it like an eight week series or whatever. I was at a Star game, that's the premiere. I was at a Stars game one night.

I was walking down towards my seat and this lady looked at me and she goes, I know who you are? And I go, who am I? She goes, You're that judge on the Cheerleader show. That's like, I got to be known for something, right, Dave you SEC guy Verne Lundquist the long time voice of the SEC until this,

uh retirement from that. All right, the famous story you may have heard, the famous story that Verne used to say, going to a game in college station and getting and getting gas and someone comes up to him and says, I know you. I know you. You're the bowling for dollars guy. That's right. Yeah. I actually met him at the I met him at the local Emmy Award show like two years ago. I felt bad because I told

him he was the voice of my childhood. And I don't think he appreciated somebody telling him that he was that old. It's one thing, Dad, it's one thing for you to tell him that he's the voice of your childhood. I would tell him the same thing, he was the voice of my childhood too. I would probably really offend That would really offend him. But yeah, and uh, channel light back long long time ago before I got here, he was doing no man, he was the time I

got here. He was he was the greatest, but all one of the things that made and it's not like a eulogees doing, but one of the things that made Verne so great. And I loved him obviously calling Cowboys games as well. But he was so relaxed on the air, and you know, and he would probably admit it to this day. There would be flub ups on the air, there would be mistakes that were made, but he would just carry on, you know, and he'd laugh at it and just having a sense of humor, just to be

able to laugh at himself. Well, I screwed that up. I think it was when Dave when we saw him at the at the Emmy's here locally, and uh I told him, I said, you know, Verne, I said, My greatest memory of you is after the last preseason game, a home game. It was always at Texas Stadium and the press box there had a kind of a common area behind where the writers were. We were in the press box writing and he and his wife tech Shram

and his wife Marty, they would get together. There's an open bar, right, they got a bar in there, and the guy's making drinks and Texas drinking his bullshots and and they're loud right there. I could hear Verne's voice. I'm sitting there trying on deadline to finish the story and they're loud. And I told him I used to get so mad at you, and he just start laughing. He goes, yeah, I bet because we were having a

good time, right. And after the last, the last preseason game, they would put a pool together and you had to you had to predict the Cowboys fifty three man roster, right, and we're sitting there going, how are we gonna be texts? He should know already, right, And the only person they trusted with the ballots was Texas wife Marty. Marty would take the ballots. Everybody put their money in and then we see who had the most, and then they would win the pot. But that was a big deal. It was.

It was amazing. And now that we mentioned Verne and I think about the Masters, that's what takes care of our weekend. That's the Masters starts tomorrow. So there you go. And in fact, I've actually used the line from Verne on last night's sportscast on CBS eleven. Did you see the skip shot holding one by John Rom and I it was on sixteen, and of course Verne was always on sixteen at the Masters, and so I was trying to remember the great calls, so many great calls that

Verne lunk was made at the Master's and elsewhere. And I was thinking, Okay, what's that call that he had when Tiger when the on the chip in on sixteen, when you see the Nike logo and the and so I looked it up, and so I used it last night on the chip in shot by Rom And I said, I if we only had Vern here to exclaim, have you ever seen a shot like that in your life? And it wasn't a chip in. It was a drive over the water, right, well it was you know, it's practice. Yeah,

but but anyway, skip like twice on the water. All right? Yes, I understand. At the end of the show yesterday you were talking quarterbacks. We were talking quarterbacks, and we had we really only had a couple of minutes to discuss which way they should go. Uh does it go back to Dalton? Do you want to give Gilbert some some more time? And um, it was a very short discussion.

I can't remember what those guys said. I think. I said, um, you know, go with Dalton until you know for sure it's over, if you don't know already, and then give Gilbert basically a four game interview for the backup job next year, because Dalton's on a one year deal, right, And then his assumption was he was coming here for one year because of the pandemic, want to move his family with an idea of latching on with somebody next year where he'd have a chance to either start or

compete for a starting job. So if that's his goal, and if that's still what he wants to do, then you're going to need a backup quarterback next year. And I don't know that Ben d Nucci would be ready. So I think what we saw from Garrett Gilbert, I think he'd be candidate number one. What are you thinking, Dave? I actually I completely agree with everything Mickey just said. I feel like people, you know, and I get it.

The season feels like it's over from a competitive standpoint to the fans, but the reality is that it's not. You know, the NFC East is terrible, They're mathematically still alive, and Andy Dalton gives you the best chance to be competitive in that scenario. On top of that, maybe people don't want to hear this. I think it's only fair. Yeah, Andy stayed here partially because of the pandemic, but this is also an opportunity for him to say it up

the next act of his career. I mean, if he wants to keep playing football two, three, four or five, you know, good games of tape could go a long way toward getting him a new deal in a new city. So I think he deserves that opportunity. He's earned it over the last decade in the league. And you know they're two and seven right now. If they're three and ten in a month, then you've still got three games where you can put Garrett Gilbert in there and see

what he can do. So I don't see the downside of letting Andy Dalton try to keep it competitive for the time being. And you know what his incentives on his contract have to do with percentage of games played, which if he went the rest of the way he would accomplish, And it's percentage of games played plus the Cowboys making the playoffs. So I'm getting his mind he doesn't care if they make it at six and ten

or seven and nine. If he makes the playoffs. I think it's like and he plays I think more than fifty percent of the snaps. Uh, it's a five hundred thousand dollars bonus, and if they win the game, it's a million dollar bonus. So in his mind, by golly,

you better give me that chance. All right, and let me ask you this, Okay, with the state of the Cowboys offensive line, all right, there's there's a perception about Andy Dalton, a recent perception about Andy Dalton because of what was going on in Cincinnati and what was the state of their offensive line, then their receivers and then without Green. Take it back to when Dak gets hurt and he did lead a drive that won the game at the end of the game and made a couple

of throws there. Okay, Now the next week they're playing an Arizona team that ran them out of the building. Basically it was thirty one to three. Yeah, at halftime, maybe it wasn't the Dalton faults something like that, you know, a couple of Zeke fumbles. They had to throw the ball fifty four times in that game. And then what happened next week he got hurt and it was but what was going on with the offensive who was playing

right guard. Yeah, Zack Martin was hurt and so McGovern was making his NFL date right, And you can point the one sack that stands out in my memory of that game. It was a blitzing Cole Holcomb coming up right where the right guard Connor McGovern was who he took the safety instead of the linebacker and Zeke couldn't get over to get the linebacker. Could have got the safety on the blitz. But otherwise with that offensive line,

they were throwing everything at Dalton. So let's let's see now the offensive line, although it still makeshift, has been together for a little bit and there's more of an opportunity. Plus, I think coming off the Dak injury, I mean just the whole mental state of this football team at that point, having lost Dak, I think that contributed a lot too to what happened the next week against Arizona. And I think the injuries in the offensive line contributed to what

happened in Washington more than anything. And to both of your points, there's still plenty of time left in the season to see what's going on here with with both and you know, and Gary Gilbert, I mean take nothing away from what he was able to do on three days practice last week. Um, you know, it's uh, he has been a journeyman in this league for he's not It's not like he's twenty four, twenty five years old, right, like they just discovered this guy. I think I think

there's a perception out there. Let's let's see the young guy. You know, well, the young guy turns thirty next year, so and and and then the other part of it is what realistically is the market going to be for Andy Dalton as a starting quarterback in this league next year? I mean, let's say that he is, he's competent, he does a good job, it's not overwhelming, and you know he doesn't do it pull o' ryan Tannehill and they

win seven straight games to wrap it up. Then then the market obviously is gonna be great for him next year. But let's say they go five hundred or so the rest of the year, What really is the market for Andy Dalton? Is he gonna he would have an opportunity to compete someplace, probably, but his best opportunity might be here. No,

you're right, and think about it. And I just saw that mel Kiper has his big board for twenty twenty one out already, right, But there's gonna be three quarterbacks go high in the draft, right, So that means teams quarterback that's where they're going. So there's three right off the board there if they do what Cincinnati and said, Okay, we're going with our young guy, let's go forward. So

that's three teams right there. I don't know if we want to count him up who it is, but I mean, it's it's almost like Andy has got to the point in his career unless he, you know, dis placed lights out, he's he's probably you know, he might have an opportunity if he knows the offense. It's a coordinator, there's a comfort level there. Whatever. He could have an opportunity else where, but he might have just as good an opportunity to make decent money here at home where he's got family

and stuff. On another one year deal, we see, you know, so he could very well be the backup and you feel good about Andy Dalton being your backup quarterback. Absolutely have a have a veteran guy. I mean, think about but think it's not a bad point. Think about what Gilbert did. When's the last time a Cowboys backup quarterback when not counting Dak starting the season. Right, went in in the middle of the season and had a game like that, I got to go to Romo. Now, well

I've been here Romo in two thousand and six. Yeah. Yeah, And his debut wasn't anywhere close to that, right because his first pass was intercepted. As Jerry reminded, everybody, think about this with Gary Gilbert, where would his career be right now? If the pandemic hadn't happened. Would he have even been on a roster this year? He was playing

last year in the Alliance of American Football. Right. The fact that you can have veterans on your practice squad this year was the main reason that he was still on a team this year. But he had played with Cleveland as a backup last year. He had, but he was on their practice squad at the time that the Cowboys picked him up, so he would have been here.

He could have backed now they used that. Now they may have done that, and because they had the ability to the roster, right, but there's it's possible that he might have been out on the street they were banking on he could they could stash him on the practice squad. No one would sign him, right, and then here come the cowboys. Right yeah, so all right we can take when Cooper Rush was on the street as far as I'm aware. Yeah, yeah, yea, all right, we continue with

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It's one too many dots in there, all right, Mickey or something you wanted to get to just kick off this ship. I noticed something that this has kind of caused a stew in the media world today. The Houston Texans let go their vice president of communications Amy. I think it's pulsic. She was told the report said that she no longer was a cultural fit for the organization.

Whatever in the world. That means when minority parties and women are getting opportunities to get hired in the NFL because they're trying to be more diverse in their hirings, she gets fired because she wasn't a cultural fit. And I was assuming it's by the guy they brought in to kind of take over the organization after the owner passed away, fired Brian Gaine as the GM fired the

head coach, Bill O'Brien. Now it's going right down the chain and fired their vice president of the Communications and all you gotta do is go online and there's a bunch of writers around the country in and uproar. She was pretty good, Dave, as I remember when they were here in twenty seventeen for the her I was gonna say, yeah, I briefly remember meeting her when they were staying with us during Hurricane Harvey, and she seemed like a consummate

professional to me. I'm stealing this joke from Twitter, but you're right. I mean, every influential voice in the NFL is just horrified that this happened. So maybe the cultural fit is that she's very, very good at her job and the Texans are an inept mess and that's just you know, they don't want any winners in that building.

I guess, I don't know. Somebody wrote suggested this is the best thing to happen to her because now she could go to an organization that has some culture, and as Adam Schefter pointed out, she was the first and only woman to have full PR responsibilities for an NFL team, the winner of the twenty seventeen Roselle Award for Best PR Staff, and that was that year when they were they got they couldn't get back to Houston, so they

came here to Dallas. They practiced for three days, I think, and the idea was the preseason game that was supposed to be played in Houston was going to be played at at and T Stadium, And then they set up that whole charity thing bill you remember, ended up being a fundraiser, and at the last submitted on Wednesday, they found out that they were going to be let back into Houston. So they kind of went got up and took off, and all that charity stuff was going to

go down to drain. But the Cowboys said, oh no, we'll just have an open night and do a fundraiser a telethon and ended up raising a whole bunch of money if I remember correctly. All right, let's go, let's dive further into you want to talk punter punter? All right, Cowboys, might we sign on another punter? Right? They worked out they were supposed to work out a couple of guys. And the idea is the fact that you know, Hunter,

the punter, nice wander, you know, has the job. But you got when you only have one position that only has one person, you got to be careful with the COVID stuff, especially when you get two games in the span of five days coming up right exactly, and if you bring if something happens to him and you got to bring somebody in, it's a six day or deal to get through the COVID protocols testing. You wouldn't have

a guy in in time. So I think they decided we better put somebody on the practice squad, and so we'll see if they do that. They don't have to do it till well. If they sign a guy and if they want them on the practice squad next week, they got to get going now. Although you know, I guess you could get tested because they're not allowing the players into the building thanks to the what's is the

guy's name? Vance McDonald. Yes, Vance McDonald tested positive to tight end for the Steelers, and when they got back and tested on Monday, and then caused the Steelers to put four other guys, including Roethlisberger, on the contact tracing COVID nineteen lists, and they can't be back in the building I think until Saturday. So you know the ideas well, I get back on Saturday. They're playing Roethlisberger on Sunday,

but that could have happened to the Cowboys. So this might be the most fortunate by the Cowboys have ever had. Couldn't become in a better time because they probably would have been told you can't practice on you know, you got to wait three days. You're not going to be able to practice on Wednesday for sure. That's why today's practice was canceled. And so yeah, and what if they had a person, you know, test positive, then you would

have to shut the place down. So yeah, this stuff is, it's growing, and it's even more serious now than it has been in the summer. Yeah about that. Just take a look at college football, right, I just saw how

stayed in Maryland canceled for this weekend. I'll be interested to see if Notre Dame plays after they stormed the field there By the way, yesterday I was talking about the Cowboys in the possibility could the Cowboys have contracted COVID from Vince McDonald whatever, And I said highly unlikely, not because of what I said on the podcast yesterday, but by doctor friend who I was quoting on that, he just happened to text me last night because he's

heard about the story and everything. He said, it's unlikely any of the Cowboys will get COVID from Sunday's game. Their exposure fails the times the time or times distance times dose test. But you know what locker rooms are like, and with the teammate from the Steelers perspective, the teammate being on the team bus, I mean that can be more of a location where you could contract it. And so that that is why we haven't seen there's no documented cases of athletes catching it from an opponent on

the playing field. So you're you're saying Donovan Wilson is okay with that one tackle time McDonald's ball. Yeah, well, I'm not saying it. That's what my doctor friends are saying. So anyway, for whatever that's worth, it's it's it's more in the bars that it's the problem. Yeah, and the dormitories and the fat house. Yeah yeah. All right, we gotta like a minute left on this edition of mix Shots. How do we want to spend this minute? Oh boy, Dave Hellman, do you have a parting mix shot that

you would like to give? Do I have a parting mix shot? Um? Hey, let me throw this out before you do it. Ye did Tack McKinley clear waivers. We will know that in about We will know that in about forty five minutes. Right, yeah, that's right now. The Falcons. The Falcons took their time putting him on waivers. Hasn't gone through the system yesterday then okay, right, no, um, we'll find out. Oh yeah, so no, I was just gonna say, hey, Mick, I really, I mean, that was

cool that you read that letter. I was actually I was listening to a podcast about the world wars this morning, and like I said, it's a healthy dose of perspective. That was really cool. I appreciate it. Yeah. Yeah. There's a few things that we have left over from his service duty, but most of them it's not like he had a lot of memorabilia because when you're a prisoner of war, they basically take everything from you. So you know, he's got a shirt afterwards and a hat and that

was about it. So but very fortunate to come back alive. And I'm fortunate too. All right. Well, that does it for this edition, a Veteran's Day edition of mix Shots, and we are off until next week now, Monday, Tuesday. I forgot what day we're starting back up again. And the Cowboys y'all find a way to enjoy your damn bye weekend. Don't so sad that you don't have to work. I know I'm going to be watching the Masters on CBS. We can pay attention to that. That's exactly right, all right,

Dave Helmett, it's been fun. Good to have you Dave with us. It was yeah, this was great, Thanks guys, all right, and for Mickey Spagnolne, Bill Jones, and we will see you next week here on Mick Shots. Have a great buye weekend, everybody. This has been a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club.