Yo, what's going on? Everybody? Welcome to a new episode of My Candicase. I'm Canaday and I'm on today's episode. We have no special guests. We've been having a bunch of special guests here recently that tried to will continue after this episode, so don't you worry. Uh. We got catching up some on some news articles. Uh, catching up on what me and Groovy been doing. Because if you haven't turned into the wakem Bay Groovy was
a judge at the seven to ten camp Invitational recently. Seven ten just passed. We were out at Dabs don'nunt Stabs and Dutchy event thrown by Harry from me Connect Puff or the Mike Cannon Pros Group whatever. But first, also, I want to give a shout out to our partners Kinship and Old School Organics. And we're actually about to be sparking up on some exit one twenty seven I believe from Kinship right now. Yep, that's exactly what it is.
I don't remember the crosses though, yeah, I forgot the cross as well too. And we we actually met up with Tyler from Kinship. If you haven't checked out that episode, it dropped earlier this month. Great company because I believe that they are all about the quality, They're about the terpenes, they're about giving you everything, not just high THC. And that's what I mean by a great company. It seems like they care fully throughout and
you can see that within their product, you know. So but let's jump into and also shout out the cannabis workers resource doing some great things. Yes, thank you, thank you, thank you, and always old organics that's our fan. So yeah, I know we're gonna talk a little bit kind of what's been new, trying to kind of start segmenting some things because we're always just kind of all over the place a little bit. So yeah,
that's kind of what's been new. Jump into whatever this whole run of stuff we've been doing, because I don't know the last time you had an episode now, yeah, it's been like June. Yeah, so yeah, No. Seven ten Inmentational was super fun. A lot of fun. Uh. There was you know, a bunch of brands alike, you know, uh, both sides of the system. But you know, I enjoyed it. It was music festival for three days. They did like a hash competition.
I was. I was fortunate enough to try some full Melt, which was some really good full melt out there. I was really surprised on some of the full melt because some of it was really turpy, And every time I've tried full Moult it's always been like really hashy. So just the fact that it became so turpy was super duper cool. Uh. And they got to play a set you know, shout out to the whole crew there. That was a lot of fun. That's what's up. Yeah, it was a
lot of fun. Yeah. I really wish could have made it. It was it was. It was a good time. You would enjoyed it. A good hash it would have been it would have been fun next time. Sound It seems like they'll probably be another one throw next year. It seemed
like it was a pretty good event. I was judging though. I was really cool, man, So I never we've done judging before, but I've never done live judging before, and live judging they brought it out individually where you kind of went together, so it's like it kind of was kind of at your own pace. Like even though we only had like twelve entries, like it still took me four or five hours. Because if you can't really give it an honest judge and then we were waiting there all day. I
mean this was like just because we had like everyone was late. It took forever. Like I was sitting at that chair of for seven hours pretty much like yeah, usually I jump into Ferson, Well what we's smoking on acident one twenty seven, so I always jump into weed first. I was like dick a dad and I spoke with you. But it was super cool, man. The one thing I thought was cool about the live judging was it was people from all sorts of backgrounds. You know. You had people who
just like loved it and then people who like made it. You can meet up people, media people, ballar blunts or blunts and ball arm blunts. They were there. Cool people shout out the homies that I've ran into there. I don't know, it's a really good time man, Like I said, I love the fact that you know, you can just get out there. There was some live glass blowing, you know what I mean. Yeah,
it was. It was a cool vibe man, like a mini festival mostly focused on hash just with a little music, you know what I mean. So it's fun, you know, especially because like being a musician, like a lot of the festivals I go to are music based and then you know, the party stuff is just secondary, right, so it's different,
Like the weed is first here and then the music secondary. So it's always fun for me to go this, and it's kind of like a different experience, you know, where like the hash makers are like the the All Stars, they're like, oh you know they walk around with that bitch, people like, oh, you know what I mean. It's like the musicians are like, oh, you know, just playing music, you know. So it was cool. I enjoyed it a lot. Man. And then yeah,
seven ten. Uh, Dave sent me this article talking about the history of seven ten, So did you want talk about that a little bit? Yeah, I mean this holiday just passed. It's pretty brief, honestly, it's pretty much was started by connoissewers with that we're getting into oil. When you think about it, you'll get seven ten. You flip it upside down, that spells oil. It makes sense, cool calculator trick, and there's tons of other ones, but like started probably the article said to twenty ten.
So I honestly I remember hitting like in twenty I think ten. It was either eleven or thirteen. I think it was where eleven or twelve, maybe where Colorado had the seven ten cup. I remember that was a big thing that I remember seeing because it was all about the concentrates because concerts are blowing up and now it's showing that there is a rise in concentrates, and that goes from your vapens, that goes to your resin your rosin your hash.
Anything that's not flowers pretty much can content. I mean. But dude, I mean I truly feel like I mean, Grant, I think I just didn't wasn't as immersed in the hash community because we were such big, you know, smokers and everything. But As I don't want to say made the switch, but you know, I mean as I kind of like moved over to mainly just doing hashing them alone. Like I think I found there
was like a whole community, subsector community. Because people have been talking about five stars, six star hash and all these things about melt and all these things that I'm like, oh shit, and it's been like it's been common knowledge for them, you know, So I think it's just been around a
lot longer. I just think the popularity and then the like selling it, like you know what I mean like when someone like think about the idea of back in the day, when someone could sell weed for fifty sixty dollars an eighth, why would they dull down their whole crop to put it down to a little like wax, you know, why would they The money's more maximized Now. I think it's kind of if you can produce good concentrates, you can make more money concentrates. You know, if you will grow good flour,
then you grow good flour, right, you know. So I think it's just kind of changed a little bit. I guess that makes sense. But yeah, I just wanted to touch base on that because then that pretty much goes to last week, which was seven ten. I mean last week Wednesday. Instead of dropping a seven ten episode, we dropped our episode with tie from Exoga Matter and zo Olympics. Those bags are going live this Saturday.
So if you if you check out that episode and you're like, yo, I want to cop one of those rosin boxes or flower boxes Saturday. I'm assuming nine or ten am once those dispos open and those boys, those will be gone pretty quick. I have a feeling they're going to go pretty quick. Yeah, yeah, especially the rosinin I mean, even just a good deal, like either of them are good deals, especially if you're trying
to try some new stuff, you know. I mean, that's that's the big thing at the end of the day, when you when I'm when you're trying to try new stuff, that costs money because you got to buy a gram or eighth here in eighth your GM because it's not like back to day where you could like just buy a gram or like try pre pack now yeah, I mean, and then even with wax, like you can find some bulk rosin and try some brands out somewhat, but even then, like you
got to go try the strains. So it's just sometimes these are cost efficient if if there's good competitors. That's why I like sometimes when they're like invites or like you know, because the best of the best comps, because you tend to get better product when it's just open. Because when it's open, you know, you get everyone in their mama just trying to put for the
marketing point because that's the thing. Just being involved in these type of competitions get you so many touch points, people just getting eyes on your brand. So it's like even if you come in dead fucking last you still win, like you know what I mean. But if you're still a winner, if you win, like when Known one with Tottley Mount in January, you had to bring your best dab event. That ship blew. I remember they were sold out. That was selling out like hotcakes. That's the power of those
events, these competitions. Yeah, they should have saw as soon as Bake Tater's won or like one or one Full Mountain got third and Hash everyone goes over there and the floor guy one got second and both went over there. You know what I mean. As soon as people start winning, you know, smoky, you know, you just get this boost of pump and like we saw that back in high in time, remember Zilla when they won, we saw like almost their booth get tackled. You know that was like years
ago. But yeah, but still the same past ship. That shit happens. And so that was last week's episode. But yeah, then seventh time this year, shout out to Harry and his team had the Dabs, Donuts and Dutchy event, which was pretty dope. It was actually at the Marble Bar in Detroit, which is very cool. That's a cool spot. You haven't checked it out. Definitely a pretty cool spot the patio outside and like the the bar was nice. It's right, I've only ever been there for
like a like like techno show. I think I went for like an afters years ago, after a movement or something, or I mean I used to party, So if there's an electronic music scene our venue, I've most likely been there. But because I like to, I mean it's been different this year, but anyways, I love that ship. But no, it was really cool and unique to see that you could like be at the bar, you can go get some smoke, you can smoke outside. There was brands,
you can get some free dabs. Like it was literally kind of like a mix of like every party type of style you could have. And I really enjoyed it, Like it was a great It was a great night cap to the seven time and funny because it started at nine o'clock at night and
went till two am. And tell them why though in this I didn't even think about it until you said that, Oh yeah, yeah, you think about that, So this makes complete sense because I was like, I was like, dude, I'm fucking tired because I had a workday job too. I mean, so did you. But I'm like I know, I had Fourth of July the past weekend, and we were doing just so I'm like, I'm just so tired, and to go out at nine, I was like, that sucks, you know what I mean, It does suck.
But speaking with Harry previously prior to it, he goes, since it's seven ten on seven ten, a lot of the buntenders, a lot of the people, a lot of the industry workers are working that day, vendor days there are at other shops. You're like, it's such a busy holiday now compared to four twenty that everyone's working. And so to get the whole community together like he did at night, he had a way to set it off. You know. It's funny though, but that that alone shows you the
growth and concentrates. Oh, at least here in Michigan, you know, And I know people talk whatever they want to say about the market. Oh what's up, it's down, no money, there's a lot of money, blah blah blah blah blah. Regardless, there's still being money being made and companies still being started every day, and license is still going on all the time. So you know, which, again I don't know if that's totally a good thing. You're kind of the overset is partially the reason. So
yeah, but I don't know. I think it's uh. I think just seeing that growth in seven ten, just showing you that because everyone's planning for it, just shows you there's bigger numbers on that day. I mean, especially when you have full brands. Now, Like I mean, I remember that when we were talking about I can't wait too. We see crops that
just go straight to Rosin. And then I think two or three years ago we did uh that tour with whatever on eight mile, that one where we were like we saw a full grow that just went right to Rosin and I was like, oh shit, oh shit. And now since then, there's tons of that type of shit. There's tons of companies just surviving off. They don't even fucking grow, like you know, it's just they go when they process because they're just it's became such an again, I think it's just
a process. I think the community is just growing. That hash community is growing at a at a faster rate than the stoners or the just smoking flower just because it's newer. And then like think about the dad pens, Like the pens really shot concentrates of all lot because a lot of people won't dab, but a lot of people hit that pen. For example, all my family over for the July Oh, everyone's cool in a little pen, but
I rub out a dab rig and whoa you doing there, Bud. I'm like, same shit, shit and the same shit like yeah, you know what I'm saying, but same ship. And That's what I'm trying to say.
But the accessibility to that is why I think constrants really like tenfold you know, don't obviously the quality of hash too, but I just think that the pen's really changed the game because certain people like dabbing, but certain people like everyone's cool with a pen just ripping a little pnchmin everyone's it's really easy, you know, especially now with the new tech. Some of them can be really tasty too. You know, facts facts, yeah, man,
But that was pretty much. That's it. Man. I've been just dabbing off that seven ten full melt, still a little bit here and there, and I mean I bought some Rosa just to get me through. But it's been that's been my it's been. It's going on with me, man. I got a couple of gigs come up, which yeah, and next week. Next week I'll be out in Big Dub that's right, yeah, you
know, and then a couple more fast week in a row. We'll have the Homie Camp Collector the following week, the first weekend in August, and then Summer and Smokeout in the Up which Lee Consumption and Mike Jones and all sorts of shit up there in the up. So check that out the August eighth of the twelfth. So that's like pretty much what's the pop with me
right now? It's my tunnel vision sounds about right? Yeah. And then yeah, check out that Exotic Matter episode from last week too, because that's another thing we got going on. We gotta do those kids soon because that's this Saturday, right you said, isn't it this Saturday coming out? Facts? Yeah, you know, I always got to think about, like when the podcast is coming out? Yeah right, yeah, hell yeah No. Snoop Dogg launched his first suspencer. I'm pretty sure everybody heard called Swede smoke
Weed every day. Kind of kind of makes sense. It looked like I was watching a video. Looked like he was DJing inside of it, Redwin. But it's pretty cool to see him open it not shocking. I've been kind of waiting for him actually have his own store, because he has his
own line with the death Row Records line. But I'm curious if it's like fully integrated and he's actually growing the butt as well too, or if it's just being well, I mean, I mean, I mean, I'm sure he's I'm i mean might hate him growing it, like I'm sure he's not growing it at all, like not even slightly. I don't even know what you think about that. That mofucker makes bread making music. He doesn't even need to do the music anymore. He's just an idol, like an idol,
like if he'll just look up to him. So, no, fuck all that, and he ain't grown shit, but he's I think because he has such that representation of having good smoking good weed smoking on that snoop shit,
it must be good shit, right. I feel like he's really gonna sift through his cultiverse, like he's not just gonna like ruin his brand name after putting his name on fucking everything right now, like he's fucking everywhere, like he's on everything, He's on host, he's hosting, he's and is he gonna do something for the Olympics, he's supposed to do like some narration. No, no, no, I'm just saying he's way he's elevated past
that type of ship. So like, nah, I think he's out of the grunt work, but I think he's he's gonna try to smoke and really try to find something good. Yeah, that's what I think. I think of anything, he'd be Yes, he would be enjoying that part. So I think that. Yeah, we tried the row. The death row records are brought out here. The crip keeper wasn't bad or the crypt whatever. The crypt one was good. Yeah, crypt keeper. I'm pretty sure it was called let me try the other one. I didn't. I gave you
nath You really don't memory giving your naightth huh, that's crazy. I gave you a naight yeah, and then we matched, that's right. And then there's a little bit yeah of that crypt Yeah my days, like I tendnally, he matched. So you didn't give it to me, okay, Dave and semantics, man, I swear, but you know, I mean, like you said, not surprised because he's been spreading the name everywhere. He was little throwing out weed, even giving out weed. You know, it's
it's the brand's going everywhere. Yeah, so did you see where it was at? I figured it was Cali, I just did. I saw it was Cali. Excuse me, I just figured LA. But you just don't know. So yeah, which makes sense. Downtown you probably get a lot
of tourists, a lot of people will go there. So yeah, because Long Beach is a little bit more off the beaten path than I when I was out there, because we were closer to Long Beach, because we went smoked on Long Beach, because we were closer to Analheim where I was staying, and LA is a little bit more of like a in and out traffic type of things. So they were like, I don't know if we're gonna go to l A. I'm like, okay, that's why I don't care.
I can find out when to go. And traffic looks inside a lot of smoke. Super healthy, that's for sure, super healthy. Definitely not all right. So yeah, other than that, I'm gonna writ but dad real quick. Hell yeah, so only have one. I don't know what rosin this is. So it's rosin by someone nice and nice? Not sure. I think it might have been that that stuff we got that we split that play crap, but I can't remember where Funky runs. Yeah that's what
it was. If that's what that is, Yes, I mean I don't know. I don't know containers the other if you're not where we go live every Saturday for our waken Bigs in nine am Eastern. Check that out every Saturday. That's on YouTube. Go to my canic cast. That's m I C A N N A C A s T just like it is on this Spotify link or wherever you're listening to this, Just like that, Go hit
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brain, fucking everything's just going off. I don't know what article you had next, that you want to pull up. I wasn't sure which one jump into. I was just gonna pull up the Michigan stuff. So we're moving over to Michigan. That's kind of so the rest of the articles we have today are in Michigan a little bit more interesting, just because some are pretty fascinating to talk about. Let's just start this one because this one will be a little bit more of a talker, I think, And this one's kind
of fascinating I think in general. And I'm gonna I reworded this one because I didn't like the article heading, so I'm gonna read what I put and the I'm gonna read the article heading and just show you the already a bipartisan bill to merge uh MED and rec markets question mark because it's still still very new, but how they worded this is my favorite. Michigan lawmakers push to
simplify recreation of medical marijuana rules. You know why I laugh at that, because I truly feel like, look at they're already getting ahead in the media showing them that like, oh, it's gonna be easier, it's gonna be easier, not any of the negative things, because I'm sure there will be some positives. I'm sure it was gonna be some negatives though, because like, h that's very it's very wary. And when you read the article,
you know and shout out marijuana movement. When I read through the article, you know there are they make some good points, you know, trying to think ahead in that, Like they don't want the men market to completely go away, so this is a way to have medical people get discounts, get access still or whatever. I'm like, all right, that's kind of an all right idea. But the only thing is I want to read the wording of the bill because I don't really I mean, I do care that medical
marijuana US just of access to campus. That that's important. But what's more important is not getting rid of the caregivers. Because if you get rid of that caregiver option option, which you're pretty much doing, is merging the markets and telling all these medical patients you have to go to the fucking dismo, and then all these caregivers just have to get rid of their fuck It will just stop their little side house, will stop all this money, saving all
this money that's been invested. I mean, think I watched money these growers putting your money about put into it just to find out, oh it's illegal. Now we changed our mind. It's like there was that Oklahoma shit all over again, like the fuck. So I don't know, man, Like I don't know, and like it is bipartisan. So that's one that where you're always like it's gotta be about money then fair enough. So I mean, what do you think when you hear those words market in the market,
the medical markets, drinking brown people aren't renewing their cards. Uh, you're losing caregivers. More and more people trying to get in the market as you see from the caregiver program have gone into the market. Hopefully it doesn't, but you don't know. I mean, it very well could be, you
know, yeah, I just I don't. To me, it's just so mind blowing because like to be like a medical marijuana program should like just exist, Like there's always different lights unless they're just merging the licenses or something. I don't know, but there's different testing for medical compared to adult use. There's different licenses, So it is about that. That's like, that's what it is. It's one license for activity for between the market. So then
that's fine. Then that should be fine. Then then that's not changed. Well, that's just one of the main points. They're not changing the tooth. I was an eight law that was written. The two thousand and eight law is the one that in crafted the caregiver program. If they're talking about like the twenty sixteen one where it was before we went legal, that's not in m FLA. That's when they had that ad amendment to it where they were able to break out licenses so you had the seat to sale and you
were able to track all the product. Because when I got raided in twenty fifteen, there was no no no licenses. You're only supposed to give your overages to your patients as a caregiver, and that was not happening because it
was a shot. So technically anything before twenty sixteen when we were in dispos was all illegal completely to the t. Yeah, I know, so I knew that that was always the correct me up because you beat a dispo and you know he's been wall you shouldn't get ready, right, you probably shouldn't get ready, probably won't. So, I mean, it depends on what they're if what they're no, and they have one license for activity and that's
why when they brought up that point. That's a very good point, and I'm like, that would make it easier for disposing, like for these businesses to thrive and honestly to be able to serve both markets, because think about it as a rec brand, you're missing on all those people. And sure it may not be a big market, but some of the medical marijuana buy marijuana. You just buy a lot more than some of these rec users.
So you think about relativeness, it's like justice hitting their pocketbooks. You open up the whole thing to everybody, and everyone just kind of sells and you either get your discount or you don't, and that's it. That'd be fucking glorious because I think you don't have to get three fourths vote to get rid of the caregivers. Yeah, and that's what I was trying to say. When you read this article, it seems very positive. It seems positive.
I'm just like the way they word the article or like some of these wordings, it's very hopefully that's all that's in there. I'm just very skeptical that it's just a very you know, always you know, so just hopefully that's all they put in. They're not gonna like Oh, but by the way, now caregivers can only have three patients. You know what I mean, because that's the type of shit that you have to rewrite though two thousand and
eight laws. Well that's saying but which which one is that? Because they talk they they bring in regard to is that the House Bills five A four through five A five. I thought that's what the bill is that they put into Congress right now, so we're referred to the Committee on Regular to Reform where justin it might be to their bills saying okay, maybe that's what it
is. I misunderstood, which when they were as I saw, I was quoting twenty six so basically just an editing the bill because that the MCMA was trying to craft the two thousand and eight bill, they were trying to rework and that's and the cares were sucked up everything. Well, that's what I was trying to say. I just don't want every it's just getting that that deja vu of just don't want the caregames to know if they're just working with
the licenses and trying that that could be sweet. We're not there, I mean, you're not taking away the cards in the program. Like that. So no, that's something that could but that could actually win because you're winning for the paye like like everyone wins. Patients get access to more product, you know, regular tourists can sell to more people, Granma devs, you know what I mean. So there's kind of like a win win situation of that. And like when I really sit down and think about everything, it
could go either way and it seems positive. So hopefully it is positive. Hopefully it stays positive. We shall see. The next one I have to pull up. This one's kind of funny aiming more than anything. I really enjoyed the name on this one. I loved it. It was called the doo Be Act. Do Be Act. I'm pretty bumped for that one.
To any I kind of briefly just said it's to prevent deny employment from cannabis, uh, because otherwise it got too small and it was hard to read from cannabis pass usage as how what I wanted to end that one with, So just so you know, the Doobi Act. The idea of this do Be Act is to prevent agencies from using past marijuana use to deny employment and
security clearances. So I think that's kind of a fascinating just idea in general, it looks like Senator Gary Peters filed the legislation last week, offering the latest legislative to attempt to ensure that a person's eligibility for federal workforce is not
legally impacted just because they're previously consumed cannabis. How I took this for example, was like, say you want to be a cop, but like you were a young kid and you got you got caught trapping or something selling some bud, like can not prevent you, Like now you can be a cop or whatever, right, or you could just spend like us and got pulled over coming over all eight miles are coming up from Detroit. Yeah, yeah, I'm sure that's expounds now, but yeah, I know, but give
an example. Yeah it's funny. It's funny. That was like fifteen years ago now, so yeah, yeah, it was a long time ago, very long time ago, that's for sure. No, but I truly get pulled over because they allectually saw our car in a completely area that we were We weren't in there. So this do be act to prevent from federal people?
What do you what is your feeling on this, because like I mean, I think it's really this is this was to me was truly just seemed positive if this went through, because I think there's a lot of jobs where people sure smoke, we get screwed, like especially like think about those federal desk jobs that are safe and people have families. Oh, just because you smoke weed, you can't get jobs if you want. Yeah, exactly. Oh, I agree, it's good. That's a good one. Yeah.
No, I think that'll be good. You kill you. This is definitely opening it up and making it more of destroying that negative stigma behind it. You're comparing it to regular alcohol, tobacco and everything else. So yeah, it should it shouldn't if people were making millions and billions off of it, Your misdemeanor crime should be gone, even even a felony for weeed, in my opinion, should be gone now because it's like, Yo, we're making
how much this building. This is supposed to like a fifty billion dollar market in the near future just cannabis alone, So it's like that's probably even more than that, you know, But yeah, this is this is this is great. This one seems positive. But also underneath the proposal, the Director of National Intelligence d and I would be required to enact regulations that update its own cannabis policies and assist other federal agencies implementing the employment and security clearance changes.
So there's there's still so like, hey, we're given some power to some people here, but I just want to like make some note that there are like you know, to that point, you know the other things that DNI is previously affirmed that is not the federal government's current policy deny people's scaredy clearances based off past marijuana uses. What that's in the dB. Yeah.
Yeah, they're basically trying to prevent it. Seems like almost for military end for when you talk clearance, So you're taking out because people if you know, what's security clearances I'm talking about, like is like you could work up the chain, you know, DC and stuff. You know, great, they have the same right I yeah, because basically they were being judged for smoking. Yeah, there's nothing wrong with nothing wrong with it. I go to go to a wine vineyard and go sip on wine and NAPO, you
know, so the same clearance. Yeah, I mean they just don't judge on it. Everyone. I can't say that they wouldn't hire you over d U. I they might not. I don't really know. They might not hire over d U. I you know what I'm saying, you can't that. I don't know about. So, but the way I thought this one was cool, So we'll see in this one. I don't think this one's bipartisan, but I don't see why it wouldn't be. This seems to be positive for both sides, So I I couldn't see this being bad. I
think it's fair. I think I think it should happen right away. I think there should be I think there shouldn't be drug test thing for employment for everybody completely too, because it's legal all the way up through the system. Like honest, well, I just don't. I think cannabis just needs to be removed from that drug testing thing in general. Like everyone's you, how many times have we heard this being in Michigan, especially because it's been legal
here for so long. Oh, well, we have it on there, but we don't care, Like so many people say their employee says they don't care. Yeah, you know, but they still have to it. I mean even that's w Yeah, you had to. I mean we all had to take Sometimes you have to take a drug test but sometimes they're just don't worry about the weed because once it's legal, they're just like, don't worry
about it. I mean, because it's just weed. Yeah, so the drug tests, yeah, I dude, people, I still can't believe it, Like, but the weed's on drug tests in Michigan, Like it's been legal here for a long time. Eighteen boy, crazy crazy. Yeah. Anyways, the last article, so this is this may be more common nowage people who are in Michigan. But if you're not familiar with Michigan, white underneath Michigan, is this a little place called Ohio? I got what's ball?
So I don't understand that. Hey, it's just Michigan southern soun good in Ohio. I'm just kind. All our Ohio listeners. We know we'll talk though. I did drive through Ohio on the way back from Kentucky and I tried this chill this chili. It was like sweet chili, super weird. I'm not recommending it. I forget what the chili skyline skyline chili damn, and like seven pounds of cold cheese on top. If equals listen to this, he would agree with me and Ohio and he's literally from Ohio because
I'm just saying it's midwestate. But no, No, the whole point that I brought up, Ohio is like as much as Michigan. God damn it, dude, I can't even say the word Ohio. But this whole article talks about this, says where to go, Michigan will not be the number one market. Ohio helps Michigan number makes Michigan number one in weed sales, but perhaps for not not long. And I don't think it's notentially saying miss
is not going to lose the number one spot. I think what it's saying is that Ohio, as going legal, is pretty much in the same boat that we were. It's just starting to get its boats rowing. Because I was taking in with the article was like, hey, that now with Ohio going legal and they're all their businesses, Michigan's going to loose out on all that revenue because people from Ohio are going to travel to Michigan. That's what I'm saying. Yeah, I can see that, but it depends on how
the quality of the product is. Personally. If the quality of the products is still not good and people are making a half hour forty five minute drive, I think they're going to continue to still make that drive. You probably won't get people in southern Ohio making the drive, you know, but also we still you still have Indiana, So I don't know. Yeah, I
don't know. It's all about the all about what you like. If there's certain brands you like that aren't in your state that you've fallen in love with, you might still cross. But I do think it's gonna affect Michigan sales, and I think we will drop for sure because we probably do get a lot from out of state Indiana too. Indiana though, go legal. They're they're way but they're way back there. Yeah, no, they're I don't see Indiana going illegal. No either do I It would be interesting. It
is interesting the day. Yeah. I just feel like, no matter why, we look at, Ohio has been helping the market here for a while. I I just think that because it took us like two to four years to really get medical legal, a long of shit like you have weed in your state, people growing. It just takes a while to people get used to the laws, like cops that get used to it legal stores like the raids we had. I just think, no matter what I know, they're
legal, but even their weed's gonna suck for a while. Well that and also it's going to be very expensive. And I still feel like people are still gonna get ship meld in. Like I still feel like people are going to break the rules at first, because everyone's going to be just say a fuck it. No one knows what they're doing at first, So now is the time to take advantage of it, just like they did here. Yeah, just don't get caught, don't lose that license you got. That would
suck, especially because I bet you they're rare right now. Yeah, you paid all that money, then you fuck it up real quick. Yeah, that would be a bummer. That would be a bummer. Oh shit, I'm curious when I was up and running in like four years from now, how their bud actually is. We'll we'll take a trip down there one of these years. Right now, obviously they got nothing. I don't even know when wreck opens up for them officially, doesn't say an le I close that.
I can look it up though Google I had it closed too. Oh it's it's legal, so there's actual shops then, I don't know. It went legal in December seven of twenty three. Yeah, yeah, I know that I didn't know if when like actual shops go open. I think it took us a year to have actual shops open, about a year. I remember it was a while. It was a little while of twenty years because it wasn't until the disco was opened. Then I was like, all right, I should get my card. And then I got my card because I
didn't get my adol. So that was nine two o them him because it was not open for sure for a little while. If not, they were like one of those hidden ones that were like you know, you had a knock out a door, look at a security camera and go through one sign a piece of paper and go through another door type of shit. And then they had like two strains. That was it. Hey man, I was just having to buy when you don't grow that shit. You were like sick.
Oh dude. It was the greatest moment in my life. I'll never forget the first time I saw, especially being at water for it was crazy, you know, because I went to that dispo that I was like all hidden and shit. Then I went to dispo those right in the open and they had like twenty thirty strains and you went into like these little cubicles and sat with someone talked about some shit and they recommended a couple. I was
like, this is nuts. And then now look where we are. You can order online if you stive, if you have to wait in the line, people are frustrated. It's like Jesuschrist, we're buying we we legalish Yeah, be heavy. Yeah, And the deals nowadays is insane because there's so many different brands. It's a consumer's market, man, that's for sure. Rozen was about twenty four or five years ago. Fucking ace, we're fucking
sixty five, seventy five. You can still find seventy dollars. Gram wax just doesn't move as fast, and it has to be really really good. Yeah. Back in the day it just had to be not shitty because it was like all poop soup. And then when you would see some batter that was good, they'd be like, sixty big what here you go? Like, you know what I mean, just to have flavor. Back in the day, dads were like, we thought dabs would gt you high, but
really we're just ripping them, just these huge hot dads. Yeah, brutal to the lungs. Man. Now people are taking baby dabs and turpy dabs and just flavorful stuff like having turp timers and it's insane, insane. I love it. It's a market growing market, full circle, back to the seven ten thing. It's full circle. The city is you see it is, guys are so you know. No, I mean that's all we got. Article wise, we got some cool episodes next week. Oh No,
I want to talk about Oregon's first the nation psilocybin industry. UH is struggling to find pain customers after launching. So obviously they would they wouldn't legal over there with the mushrooms. But it's been a slow ride. And I was reading this and I think if I'm not understanding, understanding goes A majority of ore On voters in twenty twenty improved Measure one or nine, which directed the
org On Health Authority to create a legal system for offering psilocybin. Unlike marijuana, customers can only buy and use psilocybin mushrooms under the watchful eye of a state licensed facilitator and a service center like vital Reset. So this is where
this is where I think it's not happening. It's because prices usually range between eight hundred and twenty five hundred for a trip I'm sorry, and two therapeutic sessions with the facilitator, although I have kids, say discounts are often available. Then you have other states watching this, like Colorado. So I remember when they first came to a market that they was going to be there was going to be the people there to watch you, which is interesting. But
if you're paying that much, that's really that's a lot of money. I really wouldn't like someone watching me. Well, they're there there to make sure you, yeah, as a guide, but like you know, as someone who's allegedly tripped a bunch. It's like, I don't know if i'd feel comfortable with someone just no, I that I would not eight hundred even eight low and an eight hundred dollars bro. You can just find you can find
it for eight hundred dollars. You can buy QP allegedly nowadays. Dude, I heard the shops opening up and in arbor, Like I haven't actually seen that yet, but like I believe it. It's like it's literally like how medical came exactly. It's like twenty two thousand and nine two thousand, except for except for it's not even medical they're just it's just a criminalize so it's a little different, you know, but same analogy what I was making earlier.
It's just analogy, but people are able to go in and then go get different different, uh different, Yeah, where it's like illegal but it's not. Yeah, I'm all about it. I think I think the psilocyber market will expand and be there in time because it's more and more. It's coming out as therapeutic more and more or micro doc And I've actually been doing a little bit here and there. A couple of days I've done chocolate bars
capsules and it does help some days I've been sorry. I've been wanting to write it in my journal when I take it, but also even taking like a one grammar like when we when we micro dos on my birthday, Like when we that was a gram that had to be some decent because like it because it had been I was definitely a dinner just like because she was a little bit because like I've done micros and I'm like, I'm getting nothing like
that one time and I was just like, no micro dos. You really shouldn't feel I don't, right, So that was that wasn't because I think that was me. A micro dos is like a point to point one. That's why I feel like I might go point two for me, maybe point one, but that's from point one. I don't really, I don't. There's nothing. There's just more of, like a more of like a good bud, good night, even good buzz. It's like lifts me up right,
good feel. So I think it's time. With all the different sub variants of psilocybin, all the different speed, species and strains everyone call it, I think it will be able to be a great market. It just depends on how it's written in a lot, I don't think the facilitator and
having it strictly like that. If you have shops and then you also have these places where people want to go, and maybe you want to take a macro and take like a five gram or a godly seven gram trip, but you want someone there with you so if anything goes wrong, you're safe and that might make your trip even open up for some other people. Well, honestly, for a lot of people, dude, they're not ready for that. Like that. That ship was crazy my first couple of times on Macro.
Like that is a wild experience, man, And it's a. It's a wild experience. Man. Every time I've tripped has been a little different. And my big thing about that is that's why I kind of like that idea of someone babysitting, like you said, like I get that now, but just not for that price in that only winn no, but hold on. But even so, this is why I think it's gonna even though I think cannabis is paving the way like you said, for like mushrooms, I
definitely think that. But the only issue is, like I can take a gram dab to the face and the most that's gonna happen is I'm gonna past the fuck out right, I'm gonna get little nauseous, really if I can't handle myself, like whatever, right, man, Mushrooms will fuck you up and you eat a little too much. So my whole point is, like
I don't know if the public's ready for that, Like I'm there. I'm all for legaling, like like I'm all cool with like legalizing a lot of drugs, but I think there's a lot of education that needs to go behind csilocybin, you know what I mean. I think it's okay when someone experiments with weed because at the end of day. It's a very mild drug. It doesn't fuck you up that much, right, Like, it's the same thing with alcohol. Why there's so much education out there because that she can
buck you up. If you drink too much, you cannot be able to drive a car. Oh okay, then I came right like, and I guess I guess people could say the same thing to me, like, oh, hey, but groovy. What if someone smoked a joint and they're all sure, But I'm talking about like as you use drugs, like especially with like you know, a lot of like weed, Like you can smoke a little weed and its not gonna kill you, even if you drink a lot. You only have a drink, it's not gonna fucking You're fine. A
drink or two, you're fine. Like mushrooms, I don't care how many times you've eating five grams of mushrooms. It'll fuck you up unless you eat them repeatedly in the days in a row. Then you got to build the tolerance up exactly. And that's what I'm trying to say, is like, here's my thing, though, is bet you they ask you questions before you jump in there. They're not gonna take some that's never done mushrooms go,
yeah, here's max No. But I'm saying that's the difficulty behind legalizing it the way we have with cannabis, because that's why I think it is smart to decrim it, because that way it gets it out of people, because people shouldn't go to jail for being using drugs and experimenting with drugs. I don't believe that in general. I don't think you should charge people for being addicts, like because at the end of the day, like we all go
through struggles and sometimes partying is a nice release. So I really don't think you should judge someone for going through some shit who needs a release, you know what I mean, if you want to judge you know, you know, El Choppo for releasing fetti on the world, Like let's do that, like you know what I mean, allegedly, but I that's what I feel. But like you know what I mean, so again, fun again. And I don't mean to put mushroom in a harder category than we because I
do believe it is all natural and I don't people. I don't want people message like, oh you're against mushrooms now, I fucking love mushrooms. I love the LSD. I think it's just very time and place, and it's very you need to be very ready for it. And that's the only way I can say that, because I'd be scared if someone like imagine if someone ate like an eighth, it's one thing, ha ha, you atee an edible, You're be fucked up for a little bit. If you accidentally ate
an eighth of mushrooms and you didn't know, they'd be fucking crazy. I mean. So it's just a little it's hard to compare, you know, because it's kind of apples and oranges there, you know, But at the same time, they're very in the same family. So it's like, well, they're definitely the same family. I just think I think the laws have to be written fairly for the industry to continue to grow, like you can have d CRAM. But I also think if you do push an education like
that's my big thing with education needs to be huge. That's what the facilitators I think are there for that. That's that's huge. And then voices like us and other parts. We'll stay with this again Oregon or God, yeah, that makes sense. They're little ahead. But I think with Michigan and that would be cool to see some type like maybe more is like a therapeutic
trip. You know, less is like a hey, we just like, hey, everyone can see mushrooms, like because I think d Krim the people who are already into mushrooms, it just allows them to not be in trouble. I think we jump to legalizing mushrooms. There's none of education on mushrooms yet in the public. Guy, I don't know. Yeah, I don't even write. I don't even think people up that fast. I don't think
it would. There's no you can't slow because like people have to understand, there's different different strains of mushrooms affect each person differently, different how you intake it, from eating it to drinking it to capsule. You know what I'm saying, Like each way is different. It's going to hit you quicker. It's it depends on how much is there, Like so it is going to be a slower process for it to happen. But well then you're right,
it's not gonna be as money making. People are more it's more spiritual. People are macrodosing three or four times a year. What is that half bounce over a year, you know what I mean? You're not buying these large quantities where people are smoking weed and all these things. Like I'm just saying, like, weed don't move faster. That's why you're Yeah, that's why it's the one thing I do think where I think it's going to take off
is the the micro aspect. I think people but even that's how much mushrooms you're really eating. You're not eating ship, you know what I mean, you're eating even if you're in eighth a month. You know what I'm saying, Like, you're eating maybe a quarter a month, yeah, at max. So that's what I'm saying, Like, that's why it's not it's not
a cash crop the way cannabis is. It's just more like one of those things that I think people definitely need to look into because I think for PTSD it's like and that's why I don't want people reach out saying, oh, you don't like mushrooms. No, No, I believe mushrooms can save people.
I believe mushrooms kind of saved me Ship. It wasn't until I was on a trip that I was like, I want to do audio, like, you know, regardless of my loan situation, you know what I mean, but no, but no, but for real, sometimes trips really deep deep dive you inside and like you guys got people gotta be ready for that. And I think that is a nice way to do the therapeutic way, you know. And I think it's very nice, like almost like you need
a buddy with you. It's like those iowas the retreats. You probably have someone guiding you. And that's cool. But that's just expensive though. Would you say eight hundred to one thousand for one trip? It's not like eight hundred to like fifteen. I think it's like with you and somebody else and something like so so expensive man, it is you're talking. I ate the mushrooms is thirty to thirty to sixty dollars, I have max. You're talking.
That's expensive. Man. They're charging an arm and a leg for that person to just beat your normal trip about four hours. Oh no, probably longer than that. But still, what is what is a day rate of someone's pay Like even if you pay them well, five hundred bucks, so there are three hundred bucks, four hundred bucks like yeah, I mean so maybe they just get paid well and then the business has to double it.
But still that's expensive. So for the normal Joe, average Joe, we're just gonna buy me that have the places where you can have people grow it, educate it, sell different strains. Also have these facilitators where you can also be able to learn. Do you think that people will want to move
into a market that isn't the cash crop? Though? There will definitely be businesses that will come through, and I think there will be some that will be able to make some good profit off of it, because there are a lot of people that are talking about it right now, Like a lot of people I talk to and I'm like, just just talking about cannabis stuff. Psilocybin's brought up right after and right and if one is super see we're starting
to see it spread within states. We're starting to see it spread within now cities decrimming it all throughout Michigan. You we're seeing it on the West go legal. That means it's going to be coming here to go go legal here in the soon too. In my opinion, I think with the next four
years, much as will probably be legal here in Michigan. And honestly, it wouldn't be a bad business think about it, because like if you do do the education and then you maybe you maybe you make chocolate with it, maybe you do the capsule form, like I think you'll be able to sell a variety and that's where you can make some money. I don't think it's going to be like I don't know how much people are making right now in
cannabis. You know some people are. It will be used to be that will be more competitive, like only the good people who know what they're doing will be out there, the people who don't know. I don't think. Yeah, I don't keep it the last. So in time, I think though it will be, it will be popping. We'll be talking more about So I've been here too. I think I want to start bringing it up more. But I have been. I've been doing some chocolate a little bit
here or there. But nice too, yeah nice. I mean hey, every once in a while, I do like the micro. But when I micro, I'm taking like a half gram to a gram because I want to feel it. I just don't want to have some deep intro perspective. So sometimes when I eat about a gram, it's like perfect because I've done that deep deep dive a lot, so I'm just like sometimes I'm looking for it.
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