Kush Masters

Yo, what's going on? Everybody? Welcome to a new episode of My caanic Ass. I'm Canna Dave. On today's episode, we have Max Boone of cush Masters powered by Boone Labs, director of Sales. Thanks for joining us today. Max, Hey, thank you guys for having me. Yeah, super stoked man. I came across your product like a while ago and I just fell in love with it. So this is cool to have you here already because I feel like I relatively just came across your stuff. I

know me too. I feel like it's been a newer brand that hit the market within the last couple of months. I mean maybe on our side of town we've just seen the last couple of months, but like we've been seeing it a lot more and it's been great to see it. But before we drive into that, let's get who you are. What got you into cannabis and what got you with the Cushmasters. So we had, Uh, we're

from Chicago. We're retailers by trade. I ran seven elevens and White Hands, so I'm a really a retail person and we wanted to get retail stores and get in the cannabis industry. When HB. Fourteen thirty eight passed in Illinois, so we tried our best to get a dispensary in Illinois. That didn't work out. Was that recreational for you guys? That well? I was just so when that happened and we didn't get a dispensary in Illinois,

we got the opportunity to do a processor in Michigan. So we're from Buchanan, Michigan, which is about ninety minutes or so from Chicago, so it was a real easy transition. Yeah, yeah, yeah for us, I went to I went to school for I went to school for college in Chicago. Oh did you where did you go? Columbia College, Chicago, the Art School Downtown. I lived there for three year olds. Yeah, I love, I loved, I love Chicago. I love and our sister lives

out there. So we actually went to check out Illinois first consumption lines like laugh the winner awesome. Yeah, in February's pretty coolpot. Honestly, we had a good time over there. A little bit pricey, but I mean that's just market excess to cannabis, t right right right, Like come on, you hit me with that. Yeah, So, like what brought you into cannabis? Like what got you into just loving the plant? And like,

how do you prefer to blaze and like or to whatever. So I did a lot of lifting, actually travel around the world and weightlifting powerlifting SHIP. So I did powering and I won six national championships between powerlifting, weightlifting, ship and UH one of our one of our partners is also Ed Cohen. He's a world renowned UH powerlifter. Okay, you know, so he we're all kind of we all. I bet you are. Rudy Kyle would know who he is. He's the goat. Okay, yeah, then I

guarantee, yeah would Yeah. So so you know what I was When I was younger, I used to prefer that for cannabis, for recreational, for healing, you know, helped you want Yeah, yeah, absolutely, absolutely absolutely. It was definitely after a probably a long day of lifting. Oh yeah, a lot of stuff. Man, Lots of people love their joints. At the end of the day. You're appreciating me, man, that's

like my go to see. It's funny, like I prefer dabs, so it's funny, like I'll end up with some because it just gets you just I do, like I listen, just get you said it best man. There's time and place for both, right, Like, am I just trying to like take a quick dab and be high? Or am I trying to like wind down? You know? Am I by myself? Do I really need to dome out a whole joint right now? It just depends on the mood. Have I had a long day, I'm gonna do it? Do

donut? You know what I mean? Like, I don't know. It depends on the mood. So it's a switch up all the time. That's true, that's true. Got any favorite strains? You know? My favorite strain was white Widow? Oh? I like, yeah, why'd you like widows so much? That just gave you that nice, relaxing body high and yeah you like that. Yeah. I loved the ogs for that exact reason. I loved me some ogs there, you go og had that little gassiness to it. I was like, oh that skunk Okay, Skunk's were good.

Yeah, those were solid. Nice. Let's jump into some cush Masters. Yeah, so let's talk a little bit about cush Masters. That's how we found you. That's how we What is Cushmasters? Like? Do they have a mission statement? Is there like a brand like what did they stayment because we don't know too much about it. It's relatively new to us over here. So right, right, So cush Masters started in Colorado when okay, it was legalized in the United States twenty fourteen. Okay, right,

okay, so it's been out there for a while. Okay, cool. Yeah, so they kind of have been doing this hash making stuff for a real long time. Yeah, you know what's up Colorado too, especially they've been really like I feel like, very forward in the concentrates game, like they were really like, all right, this is gonna be the next thing. You know. I would agree that I believe they had the seven to ten Cup back in the day over and if I'm not mistake, like CALLI

was known for flower, Colorado got this like dad reputation. Michigan is just the best, right little bias bys No, plus everywhere I've been, plus everywhere I've been. Yeah, you're got even by surprise, so you going but no, no, uh for sure, No, it's cool that So you got some like training so from cush Masters, so you know, and we keep seeing boom Labs. So I just so like cush Masters came from Colorado, So you're almost like a franchise of cush Masters. Yes, we

have a partner. We have a partnership with cush Masters. Looks like an agreement, you know. Okay, yeah, he just all their SOPs how they do. Oh, that's that's college. Man. I was wondering how you like came out of nowhere with this like ripping quality. And plus, guys know what's up. You're obviously doing it right, that's the big thing. It's not just me. There's a whole team behind. I did mean one of your partners at one of the events that we met at, but

I forget who it was. It's probably Frank Might that's probably Frank Doinkowski. He's our head of production. He's I went to high school with him together. Oh he wrestled too, Yeah, I wrestled in high school four years cool. Cool. So you know he's he's been great. He does a lot in the lab like there's not I don't have enough words to say how impressed I am with how he's taken on it. He knew. I mean, he was just talking about the process or something. I was like,

Man, this guy knows what's up, isn't he? The video of the guy in your IG like playing with that. So that's my cousin dere different. Yeah, you got some pretty looking product. Man, you got a good team. So yeah, I mean shout out to your How big is your team? So we are including the partners, we are seven and then we have love It. We have three sales guys we got we got Kyle Brown from cush Masters in Colorado, we have Connor and rights from from Wow.

So that's crazy. That's your partners also in Colorado. The seven people, well, that's just us in Michigan. Okay, the Colorado has Okay, okay, so but no, it's still impressive that okay, because I was gonna say, seven people between two states, how the hell are you guys doing with? That makes way more sense. It's just for us here. So I don't know their exact data how many people they have one it's unstacked. Okay, that makes sense. Sorry, The bangering hits sometimes and

I'm like what it is that? No? No, yeah, So we have yeah, seven and then that that includes the Founding five and we have two extra we have one part time, so I guess eight. I like that. The Founding five. Yeah, like a table altogether just five five cents how to make the best. Yeah, yeah, no, it is. It's very good. It's very good stuff. Yeah. You can see the quality of your product. And we've tried now multiple different samples, and I think you brought you want to show that in the Yeah, yeah,

the can camp he already has. Look at this guy so right there is frostbite and it's beautiful. That stuff is tasty. You actually gave him a dab. I think, yeah, I think it was sweeter. Is that is? I think it's sweeter. I'm trying to remember now. It's a nice blueberry tone, that's what it is. It was like sweeter blue yea, I remember that super fruit. Yeah, yeah, I'm gonna showcase. I have some mimosa personally already on me. I have mimosa and uh smacks

will show up on the cam too. Like the quality and all your product, Man, looks really good. I haven't had one so far that I've been like, I'll pull it up little upset about or anything. Everything tastes tastes really good. The highes are very nice. The rozin like is pretty consistent. You can make donuts if you want with it as well, too. It's not like too dry for somebody that stuff that comes out and just like dry and crumbles up like good stuff. Like shout out to the team.

We're talking about the team. Oh yeah, they do. Actually they leave to make a great product, you know. Yeah, like there's no way I can. It takes a team to make a dreamer telling right, like something like that, because it really does. Like we're even trying to find people for our team because even just it's hard. That's why when you said seven, I'm like, wow, you guys are you guys are crushing for seven people? Yeah, so it's it's seven seven plus one and it's

three on the sales side. Okay, so eleven total. Yeah, so so doing good. It's in the metro Detroit area, are you kind of like around Michigan or just mostly Detroit? So we're in like one hundred and two storks. Nice and we got our adult use license in February. Wow, Okay, so damn your salespeople are out there pushing Yeah, nice work, nice work. So when you got your license in February? Was that when you first had your batch out? Was in February? Or when did

you first get patches in market? Got our first license and it was a medical license in November. Oh okay, so our three year or one year anniversary is actually coming up on the thirtieth, so you start a medical cloud out. Yeah. So we started with medical first, and we got our adult ust in February. Okay. Oh, by the way, that's that water George. Okay, if you need a water, I forgot to mention

that. Oh yeah, just keep something, I guess. So yeah, no, okay, so only three years okay, so like you hit shelves three years ago? How did we not see you? Where did you start out? Where a year? Yeah? Okay, this Nomber last year? Sorry, sorry, that's bangerings hidden. I guess I don't need to like I took a dab to I just passed it. Well, I took your before you got here. I've been digging that smacks. It's like I like that, like Gassy eighty five, like hit kind of reminds me up.

So you gotta try our great pie. Okay, I'm in grape pie delicious. So we got a real nice guy up in uh up in Turner, you know, real good guy. But he grew he grew up a pie a bomb. Oh yeah, yeah, I am before. Yes, we got a couple of dose and that's gonna they came out real well. Is it like a grape taste with the girl pie? Okay, oh yeah, it's gassy. It's I mean, they're both Papi a bomb, not as much, but definitely the great pie. Okay. The bomb is similar to

the frostbite. Of course it's not the same, but it's definitely the I'm gonna try right now. Fruit. Do you have her? You have your right? I do? Okay, cool. I just wanted to make sure because I'm like, I'm just ripping this dad without Dave, He's gonna be like, oh thanks man, Yeah, this would be. That would be. And that's what I guess I should ask this next question because I'm very curious because Rosin is very good. Do you you don't you don't vert.

This isn't your flower, correct? So you partner with people to produce this stuff. So we have because this frost bite you said was so, it's actually from a class B grower Metro Detroit. You know, shout out to Twisted Okay, yea yeah, wait, yeah, yeah, okay, they do a great job with the fresh frozen and I mean the frostbite won the Olympics. So they're a premium grower. And you know, there's so many

facets to making a great rosin. It's not just the artisans that make the rosin right, it's also the transport in Michigan, and it's also the grower because of because of keeping its frozen, keeping it at that temperature beat up, you can get more green in your rosin. Really that makes some make sense agitation making that's interesting. Ye. So you know it's if it's not it's a big I mean, I guess maybe not beating up is the right

word. It's you know, if if it's not transported right, it can affect the quality that makes sense that it makes sense, and it's never really good. And then the transporter I got into a car accident. Man, I'm so sorry. Really, just imagine how you feels the process trick get out on the truck one time. Bro, you know that'suff happened. What are you going to do? Right? Yeah? You know what can you do? All right? Yeah? He's good. I'm glad that's the first

question you asked. I was like, is he gonna ask? The always always say was it processed? Okay? Was it? What happened? So what happened to the weedd Now he's fine. More importantly, I'm glad hear that. That's I never even thought about that for the transportation, because that was that would be horrible. You're like the girl wher he grew the fire product. This ship is gonna be great. You probably looked at it saw while I was growing gonna lie. Oh yeah, no one's ever said that,

And that makes complete sense. So this is completely new knowledge. Like because you get really cold, so it's like a deep transport, a deep freezer or something like a cooler truck man or a fridge truck. Yeah, I mean I I called an ice cream trucks. That's easier for people to understand, right, But I've seen like Frid they just have trucks with freezing. There's a lot the reefer they're you know, they're they're designed to keep cold. That it makes sense. That makes sense, That makes sense.

I just never really thought about just the agitation itself. But that's really cool. So you basically the people you work with, people who you kind of trust and you know, have good flower and you go check out the grow ops kind of thing. Oh yeah, you know, we have our own

SOPs. We have our standard operating procedure for how we identify plants, because the plant that does that makes the fire for smoking, for bulk flour for your joints isn't necessarily the same product that you're going to process into LIBROSM.

Yeah, we've seen that, that's for sure. We've heard some things just press like crap, right, they do, you know, they do, even though it may like completely taste great and slab, but then you get like one percent yeah, and people are like and then well then that's the

big thing. Especially as a grower too, like when you give it, give your flower to someone you're expecting like, okay, this is worth it, right, So if you end up, you know, you put a shitty a strain out there that pushes bad like the person that you you're like, hey, you know this is what you gave me, and they're gonna

get pissed, you know. But it's like that's part of the game sort of you gotta play with fine, I'm sure you just do small amounts and then kind of just mathematically figure out what's the best do you ever do like those whether you shake tests or something like that. So, yeah, you can definitely do a two gram shake test with ice water and a mason jar, so we know that can kind of it can kind of show you a little bit. But two grams is a lot different than twenty thousand. I

could never imagine processing twenty grant. I'm sorry, how many twenty thousand? Twenty thousand? There? Groovy? I started drooling a little bitter, weird. That is a lot of so it works. You know, we do a lot of things compliant wise, to make sure our machines are good to go. We test new fresh frozen when it comes in. You know, fresh frozen denotes the frozen cannabis plant, right. You know, if you got any new listening facts love the right fat Max facts by Max, I'll

be here all night. So it's we test the product to make sure there's no like there's no mold or anything that's it's it's gonna like affect the quality of the product, like to make it not safe, to make sure it's compliant. Right, So we test new stuff and we only do small test patches, you know, before we take on more. Is that just for like quality control? Yeah, it's it's it's like you were saying, we figure the math out. Yeah, like make sure it's really worth everyone's time.

You don't want to get you don't want to screw someone over. You don't want to get screwed, you know. I mean, I'm sure there's with contracts. I'm sure is there contracts between like a grower and uh absolutely is? I just know. I Actually that's questions I've never asked before,

like produce produce buying. You know, you set X number of square feet, you know, X number of plants, sex number of product a year, stuff like that, no idea, Yeah, but yeah, there's definitely well yeah, I just imagine in this industry, it's probably a mix of But I was just curious because like I mean, as a quality well as a you know, you're a very good producer, what is the best you've

seen and like the worst you've seen in a product? Wise? More just curious out of like because we've heard people getting like what you know now, I'm just I think the process of Rosin's becoming better and better. So it's kind of hard to know how like how high a percentage you can come back. Nowadays, we've used to hear like three percent was great. You know, I don't know if that still stands. Yeah, is still pretty good. Okay, so's nice. You know I've seen four nice, you know

four, five, it's good. People talk about six. Really haven't yet to get six. Okay, that's so that that makes sense. Okay, so that is it's just that small return. Yeah, so but that's three is great, like it can be two or even one percent, like it can be loud. It just depends on how the how how the product was grown. How did the blood structure form, you know, how did how does that phenotype? How did that do? Like you know, sometimes same

strain, same grow, same conditions. Ones just a genetic monster and yields a little bit better, right right, you know, yeah that makes sense. That makes sense, And you guys could relate to right, like you have those plants that when you grow and they're just fire right yep. There's certain ones that are and then they yield pretty good and they're nice in frosting. And those are the ones that are turpy as well too, and they're

yielding like that. Probably get some pretty good rosin. I've never actually washed mine, to be honest, So I thought you did press some of your stuff just flow or not like he just yeah, yeah, I didn't actually wash it and then do it. But the Bangrain came out with like a lemon smell of lemon in it, but it was like really sappy though, so cool to get that texture. I mean, it's really tough we see

it. I mean I feel like if someone's starting to teach classes because people are starting to come out with better razon, but still the habit like this good with this batter like consistency still tough. Yeah, and to do it over and over again. It is really where consistently. That's one thing I was trying to I told him when I found your ship and like where listeners like when they're on the stream, they're like, well, da have I'm like, damn Christmas. They're like, oh, who would I give a

Kushmaster's dab to at this event? I was at the skate e vent and they're like, oh, I've been, you know, nervous to try it because it was such a good deal. I'm like, yeah, dude, but like it's it's been consistently pretty solid. Like I haven't any strains from you that I haven't liked the consistency on, so you know, not just

saying that. I'm like I trust me, like very picky, like listen, like you know, especially being in this industry and talking to people, like we get a lot of samples and flour all the time, but like me, I have to I pay for my ROB. I still pay for my ROB because I dab you know a lot, and they don't be giving out a lot of rosin out there. So it's like for me, if I'm gonna spend my money, I want to spend it where it makes them

most sense. So yeah, personally, and that's our whole mission. We want to make sure people can have a great quality rosin at an affordable price. That's mind blowing, isn't it. I love it. Meanwhile, you see still like eighty dollars grams of rosin out there, and it's like, oh god, yeah, I mean it it. Sometimes they do make sense. There are limited drops where okay, that's sort of okay that type of stuff. But I'm saying I just feel like you're it's just how can I

get it? Sometimes? But like when you see a company out there with like sixty seventy eighty dollars wax, it's like, how do you compete with people putting out cheaper wax? It's just a good quality. You know, it's like I feel like you're doingna it's not a good long term, but it could be like business model. I just people like it. Yeah, dude pay yeah, yeah, there's something about that, like, oh, it's it's the high quality value, right, It's the Gucci of weed.

Because it costs more, sometimes it is very good. I'm not knocking those high strains. Sometimes when it costs more, it's very good. You know, I'm not saying anything, but I just like that your stuff's very good for the affordable price. Totally going to give a favorite rosin that you guys produce. Oh, I mean for ust bite was awesome. Yeah, it's like you're right, yeah, it is tasty. I really liked white Truffle. I don't think I tried. I loved it. It was great.

Yeah, it was like ninety six percent total canabitoid something crazy? Whoa. Yeah, I feel like I did try your white trouble, but maybe not. I know, I've I've definitely had a million white truffles. So I love white, white, white truffle and white mo. So we did. Maybe I had white mo. That sounds more familiar. Yeah, P fifty nine Yeah, oh great, guys, yeah, yeah, that's where that's

where I found your ship, I think for originally. Yeah. Nice, Yeah, we've been getting there so yeah, you know, I mean right here, you know, yeah right, so yeah, you know so yeah, no really like that ship. Well I guess what I should have asked? What's that? It's a good question, man, Oh, I mean, do you have any like cool strains that are gonna be coming out there in the holidays or early twenty four that we could get a little sneak pecan?

Oh yeah, we got Paia Bomb and that's the Great Pie number four, Great Pie number four. Yeah, great, great, Yeah, that'll be really good. You know, we got a couple of rocks. We have three strains of rosin carts that just came out. You're doing carts, Yes, we have carts. I guess that's a good question too. I mean, on that carts thing, I have no, I had no idea. So you thought this was the only product we have? Oh yeah, so we have live rosin carts. We have distlict carts. We have terpene

infused distlict carts. Is that underneath the Kushmaster's brand new Okay, I must I haven't seen them. They're on the shelves. I just haven't even seen them on turage carts. So it's like people love the flavored distlate and we want people to try rosin. That's why you want to make it affordable. But most people are like, why would I switch this? That's half the size as one gram for double the price, double the price. I mean, when you have one hit of rosin, it's worth way more than just

one hit of distillate. I would agree it's worth all. I'm not a dis guy. I had a couple of dislip pens where I was like, you know, I was like shocked that was dislate because like they actually used turpenes I think derive from cannabis, so it wasn't like horrible tasting like sometimes I feel like when you get those distill it, a lot of times it's covered up with you know, just some flavoring. Yeah, and you know, we don't we don't put anything in our rosin clearly label like what's in

every product. I think that's very important for bud tenders across the state and across the country to transparence like what's in the product? You know, that helps get the people what they need, you know, so that's very important. Yeah, so our cart the whole goal for that the cart series is to get people to try carts. So I try Rosin. You know,

I think a lot of people are actually really trying carts. They really like Kurts all right, the younger younger generation, you know, like I don't want to selling I'm old, but like literally like the younger generation, Like my my sister is like about a decade younger than me, right, like, and she's not really into smoking, but she's like the vaping things, like the thing, Oh yeah, so she's tried more weed through vaping and she's like, oh, I don't really smoke. I was just like about

vape sometimes, like just because her friends will. She'll hit it like sure when she's just drinking or something. But it just kind of cracks me up that like that's your primary way to enjoy cannabis because like to me, that's like one of my lower ones. Like that's like my like if I just if I just want to get a little high in public where I shouldn't be, Like, that's what vape comes in handy, right, Like otherwise it's like Rosin flower donuts animals sir up, Like we got so many others before

we get down to vaping. Vaping's like my least. So that's what's funny, is like you say it like that, but it's one of my what's brought me over is of ros and carts because you get that full flavor of a dab that's oh yeah you know or shout out eio, yeah, yeah, exactly. So there are some companies, but it's just not as you know, not as flavorful. Where can you find the ros and cart?

It's a good one. Oh, it depends on where you're at. You know, if you're in Metro Detroit, Metro Detroit, you know, I have you do you have a list on your website where you're do your disposer located? Is this more just like a general dot com? It should be on boom labs dot com. Okay, okay, cush cushmasters dot com. I think it's all for Colorado. Okay, so that's when I had pulled up is the one for Colorado? But there there should be a story locator.

You know, we are working on our website development because obviously from February to now, one hundred and two locations is a lot, quite a lot to keep up with. So for here, you can find it at Planet fifty nine or Michigan's Finest, Michigan where's that one? Looks there there, It's like, uh, it's not that far from you guys. Here it's it's still in Detroit. I think it's one of the suburbs. Okay, okay, So's Finest. So they have a nice little model. It's like

a drive up. I like this pull up on boon Labs. Oh yeah, it's nice. Yeah, yeah, no, I'm just pulling up your site a little bit. Check it out. I had the Cushmasters one if you want to check out the Colorado one. But this is boone Labs dot com. Nice. Yeah, so that that it's you know, like I made the website. You know, I didn't design. I designed, I made all the Me and Frank we collaborated on making the website. You know, I didn't code it. I don't know how to cr Yeah no,

I mean our website is built by one of those builders. Well, actually we had help, but we had to build. Yeah, so Soon helped us build it out. And you know, it's kind of a way for people to contact us if you ever have any questions. Oh, it looks like search location stuff. That's cool. It looks like you're working a lot. Yeah, I like. So it's like a way to like direct people.

In the future, I think we'll have QR codes on our products if you'll direct people website so they can learn more about the product, you know. I love it. Yeah, like what guys are doing. I'm a big fan of that because I feel like the more transparent you are with the user, the more they can just trust you and the consumer fields. I mean obviously consistency too, because if you're a consistent product, then I can like rely on If I see yours and it's a strain, I like,

I'm gonna try it, you know what I mean. Like that's the big thing about that consistency, because if it's not consistent, a lot of people will just be like, oh, well, I want to try this strain, so I'll try a new one. You know. That's how you really get a customer. Is that consistency. Otherwise? Now there's how many brands pop up every day? There's many, so many I can't keep up. And we're in the industry and it's like, what who's that brand? Yeah?

The good ones stick, you know, they do, they do, and then you see the ones that aren't, they'll start fading off slowly. I mean, there's only so much money you can spend to be around for too long, you know, if you're not making sales, like some of

the big ones that have lost shops and stuff. Yeah, but a lot of small businesses that I have like quality like this, Like you're starting to see that stand out because people are starting enjoy quality over just like quantity of But I think, I said, I think that maybe people are understanding the plan more with education, more transparent, talking about turpenes and different things, you know, mature. As the market matures, people prefer quality over quantity.

Well, because as the market mature, so does knowledge. Right, So now all of a suddenly, like wait a second, that ship I've been getting that looks like a brick isn't good weed. And he's like, yeah, just because it got you high doesn't mean it's good, because that's the thing. At first, we're just like it got me high, like right, we were just happy because sometimes you get that brown weed back and there that didn't even get you high, right, poopsu poops. Yeah,

those I don't even know why I put it myself. That's not all of you. It's just how evolved. I know, I think we might have skipped past this a little bit, but like how did you even how did like did you how did you what brought your attention to Cushmasters specifically? Oh, we like as boone Labs. I imagine that's who you guys were, and you were like, how did you come across cush mask? Just right?

So when we found the building in Buchanan, you know, we we started to figure out what could we do and we looked at what was missing, and you know, we got a tip about cush Masters because they had a reputation of doing all the whole spectrum of concentrates like h o resin ros and diamonds and all right, they have the lab. They had a good lab. Okay, okay, cool, that makes sense. Yeah. So we went out there and we saw their quality and met them and they were

great people and we just clicked. And that's kind of how we were drawn to the quality, like a lot of people in Michigan here are and we were like, that's cool, that's something we could learn how to do. I'm taking my last couple dabs with a smack and you transcended and you got your business going and guys are coming out with them. Oh yeah, it's a long. It was a long just like I mean, I guess I have a year process was how do you got three years? Wow? To

get the lice? This will be our fourth year. Wow. Yeah, I was a big start of the fourth. Well that's my big thing is like how do you just reach out to a company that hey, we produce stuff, we want to produce your stuff, Like, you know, how do you do? You just really reached out to them and just like kind of met had the meetings and started connecting with them. Yeah. I mean, you know, someone connects us with them, Okay, because I was just going to say, like, how does that happen? Hard? I

mean, you definitely can reach out to people and do that. Definitely, It's tough because we reach out to people when I just trying to set up interviews that you had alone, like actual in person meetings and do business. It's tough. Yeah. I mean if you're serious and some people they want to grow to different states, you have an opportunity, preparation opportunity. So you had some people help you meet these neat cush masters right right. How

long were you into producing prior to the cush Masters. You know, we didn't. We had for the first time manufacturing Stellar. That's crazy. A lot of times we'll hear stories of like, oh, you know, I've been producing five years, Like, no, you came in strong retail. So that's what we we. I ran a store in Chicago. Yeah,

we got a couple of them. That's what you guys. That makes Remember you mentioned that I educated you guys on all the processes to create the rosin, So what made you guys want to go with rosin over d h O diamonds? So rosin was cool because it's made with water, you know, water, ice, heat and pressure. You know, it's bubble hash. The you know, my dad and my uncle they liked the old bubble hash you know, and every week we the new school loves the dapts. I

love the rosin, you know. So it was like we could make two products that were that fit with both what they kind of liked. You know, I like that makes sense. I would agree with you. I'd be going doing the same thing. Yeah, did you learn all the other processes? Like through this learning? So you were just like, no, this is the way we're going. So I'm still learning to this day, you're not. I mean, yeah, you full ship I've perfected for sure,

not I mean everything, you're learning something new every day. I can imagine then when you bring in the the fact that there's how many different strains you know what I mean, all these different variables. Yeah, you so when you asked about how we see the plants, you know, you asked about how we identify plants because we work with with gross. You know, there's definitely a flower for bulk. There's flower you know for your joints, you

know at your dispensary will give you. There's definitely a b a show like a one that specifically better. Wow, there's a resin. There's a structure for life resin that you're looking for, and rosin. There's a different plant for all of them. Now, some plants that do well with one will do pretty well with the others, you know, because you got extremee specific. But it's more about the structure of the plant really, how the blood

forms. Yeah. Is there any like tips you could give for people that like maybe out there wanting to press their own stuff, like anything to look out for me? Youn't got to give your like pro secrets, but like any like little tips to people like trying to do their own stuff at home, you know, or any tips because like because Canadave's gonna listen because we've we've tried with it before, we just never really get through it. So yeah, make sure you have a real clean space. You know, you

want to make sure that everything is super pristine and clean. Really the environment matters that much to it. Oh yeah, you don't want anything, you don't want any microbials at all in your process, so that's gonna show up in your final product. So the reason why you can enjoy a cush Master product is because of how clean. That's why I always give a shout out

to the production team. They keep the facility real clean. That that only adds to the overall experience that you guys get to have with the product. That makes sense. So yeah, it'll be the first tip. You know. Second tip obviously you know fire weed right, that makes we like say cush Masters, fire in, fire out. So you know, the best artisans, the best rosin makers, they if you give them bad product, there's only so much you can do with it that makes sense. That makes

sense, you know, so start with the good product. All right, Well that's good tips. Yeah, no, I appreciate that. Yeah, yeah, no problem. I guess I guess one more tip. I guess you know, dial it in, you know, do the same thing over and over so you can build the the process that SOPs are huge. I mean we have sp in the every every world, every bit everything. There's SOPs, right, because eventually you figure out here's the process, like this

is like the important to stick to it. Yeah, whether you call it an s op or not, there's still going to be a process that you follow and make something. And if you do something the same way and then you can change one thing and then you can see how that affects your yields. So those are my top right, you can really you can identify those variables individually and dial it and dial it and doubt because you do the same thing, Well that was different as time. Oh that's because of this,

and that's this is good experimentation, it's good science. And then it's it's not even if you're going to tweak stuff. What if you do it and then you make a mistake somewhere or something is just different, then you'll know, oh that mistake is why this happened. Then you have the data to back it up. But you know that makes sense. That'd be my my tips to any hashmaker, professional or amateur. No, that makes sense,

absolutely sure, Yeah, no problem. Yeah, yeah, no, I mean speaking of that, let's give a shout out to the production team and all the other people that produce this stuff because it is fire. I really do this stuff. Yeah, shout out if you guys just started, and you guys weren't doing this before, like really good in the quality. Do you have any other products that maybe you have your eyes on. Yeah, you know, I'm not sure. There's a lot of care. There's a

lot of stuff, you know. Yeah, that's why we maybe we want to do like an inrofuse pre roll. I think that would be nice. Oh my god. Yeah, the donuts would be nice. You know what I'm saying. You know, there's there may be ros and gummies. Ros and gummies would be pretty nice. Yeah, that's cool. I just appreciate the solving, you know, I don't know what it is about it, just the natural process to it all, you know, I just appreciate it.

Yeah, like you said, and I think the flavor is just way better because sometimes when you process it, if it's not like perfectly done, you lose some flavor, you lose some hit, you lose something right in those caminoids. I feel like sometimes, well it's it's fine you say perfect, because there really isn't a perfect you. If you go to seven to ten labs, they have their way of doing it. We have our way

of doing it, right, It's not like one's perfect per se. I mean, if you do your process perfectly, you follow your SOPs to the letter. That's how I would kind of define perfect. Right, you've mastered

your process. But just because you've mastered your process doesn't mean it's the perfect process, right yeah, and every even so every process is different, so you can have a completely different process and still end up with a quality rosin Yeah no oh yeah, they were still saying million wis of skin a cat or whatever. Right, Yeah, it's not the best. But you know what I'm trying to say, Oh, well, there's definitely there's definitely like

basics right that all hashmakers really got to follow. But when you have those down and you do everything well in a clean environment, you have to make your great product. There we go, that's good. Sorry, has energy drinks maybe man like well, I've been into these uptimes lately, or like or what's sparkling water, I've been drinking a lot of those. Yeah, liquid deaths. I just yeah, if they make an energy one, that's gonna be dangerous liquid energy that sounds weird and good one. If you ever

tried his first form energy drink, real good first form. It was like, I'm in Yeah, I do. I like him here and there. Sometimes I just need the boost. Like literally today I was like, I need some up time you want one, shut it up with them. I'm not. I'm not gonna not. I appreciate it. I appreciate it. So Dave, you're you're a grower, yeah, caregiver. Yeah, yeah, I'm not. I'm not. I've always been like the a V guy. But I just love what. I'm a wax kind of sewer. That's

my big thing here and I yeah, I've never actually grown. And the joke is here that I've killed a cactus because I have. Uh, I first forgot to feed it and I understand you're supposed to feed him. Sometimes I just didn't. So it was pretty pretty good. It was just a joke. I should have never told him, but that was the joke. And like it's not that I don't think I could ever grow. It's just like it's a whole thing. You got a master. It's a process.

Like he's candidate for a reason. He loves that ship, he loves we loves growing it. It's a lot of work, respect you know, I spent a lot thing is like I think it's because like before this, like going into this, even on this podcast, I'm still like kind of following that music career path, like dream like performing music and stuff. So like that's kind of where I put my time. That's cool, And like, I that's why I love this podcast because we like we have both our own

skills and we can do our own thing for this. So yeah man, yeah, So I guess does anyone on your team you want to shout out specifically, like just you know, minute to shout them all out, like any names. I know you did it earlier, but yes, say thank you kind of shout out. I said thank you. Yeah, yeah, you were discussing, uh twenty twenty four, are you gonna be at any

more events coming up? I saw you at Sanci. You're gonna be at anything going through the holidays in December where people can catch you and talk to you. Yeah, it's a good job too. Sincy Banks too. Yeah, so we actually have a partnership with Sency. Okay, so cool, we're actually working with them that with some advertisements and awesome. Yeah, I mean it's it's really helpful to have a group behind you, you know. The Oh they're pretty big group here in Michigan. Yeah, they do a

lot of parts, a lot of events, parties, but events. And you met to Detroit, the west side of the state, Lansing, so yeah, yeah, yeah, so it's we've got on December sixth, it's the Legalization party. It's here in Detroit. It's cool, you know. Yeah, that's first year Fursday, five years Wednesday, yeah prior so no, the third is the is Sunday. So it's a Wednesday. It's a Wednesday, yeah before for New York York. Yeah. Well that's trying to

get the actual do you know where that one's at? And the measure Detroit? Is that a public one or a private one? It's a public one, is it? But I don't have an address. It is just Legalization Day party. It's in Detroit. And then there We're also doing a black tie event with the Redemption Foundation Harbor. That's you know. That'll be on in December, the first week, I think maybe the third or something.

But you guys, you can find it if you google Legalization Day or black time' sure sense if you check out the SENSEI am I stuff, sensy stuff, I'm sure you'll see it too. Yeah. Yeah, so, but we'll be I'll be running a dab bar at both of those. Nice. Anybody wants to come and take a dab, I'll give you a dab. You know. I had the coolest thing. I did a little podcast of the week before the SENSI event last week, and I had a guy. I only had six people in this podcast, and a dude came up said,

I watched your whole podcast. It was so great listening to and I got to give that guy dab. I was like, that's cool listening ever, it is really good if someone's listening. Trust me, we get that. I have no idea what you mean in public and I've listened to you. You're like, that's weird. Yeah, I appreciate it, Like thank you appreciate just saying it's like it's always weird. It's like humbling, you're

like or whatever. Yeah right, check out your stuff. That's why I said, I want to have you out here, like like from the first time I tried your ship. I think that's what I did. I try that was the first time I tried your stuff? Was after that meat cant puff all right, I think yeah, I think so, no, no, no, no, that's a lie, because that's why I went up to him, because I was like, I like your stuff, Okay, so I must have just tried your stuff. Yeah, yeah, So that

was it was. It was me and Connor. We were doing sales for the event, and we had Derek, Kara and Frank running the dab event for us, so they were running the dad bars and kind of directing people to us. And it's really cool for the production team to give people dabs because like they beat them, they made it. You see the reaction yeah, oh yeah, and and to get the like everyone loves our DAPs like

it's it's when it's a high quality product. Yeah, we have a They get a great reaction and for them, I'm sure it's I mean for me it's cool, I'm sure for them it's also extremely gratifying and I mean for you, Dave, I mean you're grower. Like when you see someone smoke your weed, you're like, how does that make you feel? Oh yeah,

if people like it, you always get excited a little bit. You're like, oh damn, you put work into it and you see the people coming out with and you're like nice, yeah, exactly, And it's hard work to go. That goes into everything within canvas. It's not easy to create their eyes, it's not easy to grow weed, and it's not easy to get people to even try your product, like they gotta get competitive. Nowadays it's getting At first it's hard to do it, and now it's competitive.

Oh yeah. So if I was I was giving dabs and I created it, I'd be excited as well. To make nice Oh yeah, be super happy. It makes you feel good. You're like, you know, I'm creating this, and it's like, you know, it's actually like I feel like, coming from the music world, a lot of artists really want to create the product and create the music created just for the pure like did you enjoyed it? It made you feel good? Right? You know?

So I think that's why when someone really loves it, are like, you know, kind of like cannabis growers producers, like they really love that feeling of just get someone's excited. They really really made someone feel better, and that's the beautible thing about the plant. Like medically you can make people actually physically feel better and then also mentally feel better. Like so many people smoke for mental health more than physical elements, or just just as much. I

would say just as much. Yeah, everyone uses the plant for their own reason, right right, and if you can help people have a better day, then it's just that's what it's all about. That's why we did this because cannabis as we were growing up, helped us. Yeah, so we're like people should have access to affordable cannabis and products all the time. Yeah, it's like you're just kind of fulfilling what you want it in a weird way, but it's also giving back, Like I always wanted this. I

always wanted quality park for a good thing. So here I'm gonna give you quality. You know, it is quality and it's always very good. Yeah, and it's it's like, you know, when when we actually see that we're doing that, Like it's one thing to just like this is what I want to do, but then's to actually do that and see that and actually have the chance where we can meet at an event giving out our dab, you know, right, and confident in it too, you know what I

mean. I mean, I don't want to ever. I'm not gonna call anyone out, but there's tons of companies hiding behind marketing and sales, and then you get it and it's like oh yeah, right, m or it's like or it's marked as high quality because you think that you're paying high quality price and it's not, you know, so that's like it's funny, like

because you know, not everyone trusts that low price stuff. You really do have to go out there and try brands and give them a second chance because at the end of the day, like maybe in the first time, is not consistency. They're not the best. So that's why we say, you give a couple tries. You know, if it's two or three times deep, it's probably garbage, you know what I mean. If it's still garbage, probably garbage. So I just you know, I uh, I just

find that interesting. I guess, yeah. Absolutely. We talked about the future. We talked about what's up and some strains. I was gonna say, do we want to ask you a funny question and bring that. I say, we are getting towards the end. I yeah, usually at the end. That's why I reasked you. We just cover shout outs and everything. So yeah, I think we're about there, Bud, let's do it so we have a funny, funny uh question we ask uh Yeah every guest

that comes on since the episode one and we're two hundred songs. You can take a moment to think about it. And because you're pine, like what it's a random question. So you enjoy smoking flower, so you're grinding up some bud, knock it out. As you knock out the bud, a gonta Genie pops out and CA grant you one wish that you can do.

You can change anything in the cannabis industry. What would you do? I could change one one wish and one in stint like but in the camps industry, whenever you one movie where they smoke weed and they're all they know what, every every answered everything. I don't know, I can't remember that stoner movie. I might have seen it. Yeah, see, it's always one of those questions. So I would because there's a lot going on, you know, I would choose the the end of the negative stigma, you know,

ending the negative stigma. Yeah, I like that, you know, that would be that would be the thing I would change because you know, I think if there was no negative stigma, then a lot of the other people couldn't be prosecuted for the stuff, you know, be true. You know, it's kind of like that butterfly effect that would kind of just flick, like domino effect butterfly like whatever you one just to you know, get

everything else. It would be no bad propaganda towards it, because yeah, people would probably pass in legislation because they would be like, yeah, legal in the entire country. That's good. He's going on the pre looting point, that one, that's good. I don't think we actually that's what I'm saying. I was like, nice, nicely done, because a lot of people go towards legalization or decomisation, which again, you know, I'm all for that, you know, but like in different ways are a different portant.

That's why I always like to say descheduled because it's descheduled, and I feel like a lot of things follow suit. But that one's even better because if you thought, if you got rid of the stigma then Oh my god. Yeah, be able to advertise everywhere in the world. Oh yeah, they'd be like, yeah, we can do Facebook ads and stuff. Yeah, that's the dream I wish I do. That's what he does for his day job. Man, that's awesome. I wish it doesn't sound stressful stressful.

He kills it. He does killed. It's bad some days, but some days he's like, Oh, I crushed it. I did this, is this, lead this, lead this, And I'm like, I don't know what he's saying, but he's crushing it. Roller coaster. Yeah, it seems like a roller coaster. Other than that, man, Max. Guys, this was great episode. Thank you for giving us insight and push Masters Power by Boon Labs. Yeah, yeah, anything you want to say before we wrap it up, you know, thank thanks so much for you

guys for having me. Absolutely, I really appreciate you guys bringing me on, having me on. It's it's really cool to talk about the product and the thing that you do. You know well, and the thing is, man, like, we really do like we like your products. So like nowadays, with like how many interviews we're doing stuff, we want to bring on the people that are like doing the things and like especially with this Saturday. Actually I don't know when this episode's coming out, but the Saturday that

we're recording this is small Business Saturday. This Saturday. So it's like when we see brands out there that are more like and not like like us, but like we consider ourselves a small, like you know, grassroots type of brand. We don't have any money behind us. It's like so it's like I just appreciate it because like you know, I appreciate that you made the trip out here. Small teams, small product for a foreign price. Like

you said, that's for any consumer can go out there. And oh, what's the handle by the way, what's your handle for your social media? Because it's KM dot labs right, yeah, it's Kate Kate. My My Instagram is max out Max okay there, but our company Instagram, the brand is KM labs dot m I okay perfect, km labs dot am I thank

you. Yeah. Yeah, this just to add that I want to add that before because I had I had your other lower third on there, but I want to add that one can make sure to check out your stuff because I dug it. So thanks you. Yeah, yeah, no, this is great appreciate you coming up here, making the trip up here, giving us more insight into Pushmasters, and looking forward to seeing you guys pop off in twenty four because you guys are just beginning. I can't believe it a

year over. Yeah, year, that's bloom. You guys got a lot going on for you. I'm excited to see the new strange you guys bring into the new year, and we'll be seeing you at events Max, and I'm sure we'll probably kicking in the future as well. Do you guys see me at an event, I'll give you a debt. I've already seen you at like three events, just on accident, like like even just like Rund going to fifty nine that one day. I was like, so I know

you're gonna be here. What's happening, bro, small world. I'm sure we'll cross paths absolutely, and there's always everybody. We're here to advocate, educate and inspires. Next time, y'all,