Hunna

Yo, what's going on? Everybody? Welcome to a new episode of My Canic Cast. I'm canna dave, Nah, I'm groovy. On today's episode, we have special guest Ross, owner and operator and founder of Hunah. Thank you for joining us today. Man, Yeah, what's going on, guys? I appreciate you guys have me on. Oh yeah, no, well it's been excited. Excited to talk to you about some hash So this

is my favorite ship when we're like getting dab brigs out. He brought he brought over there, so I figure I would, uh bring the right set up. How I sme like to smoke every day and we like to smoke. So and just give everyone a little background like how we met y'all, Uh, bring your best bet, bring your best dab event with who else that exotic matter shadowt Tyler. That is a tongue toaster. Yeah but yeah, I know, I remember, but no, no, it was really

fun. So because at that event, not only did we get to meet you try some fire ass dabs, because I swear you gave me something that was like wind DEXI or something. I don't know. It knocked me on my ass with my first dab that night of many, but you got to cut that night too, Yes, so you know, congrass on that. Thanks thanks guys. No, and uh that Windxi Yeah yeah, that mangoe like chemical hazy turp. I think so. Actually what that was was that

Sunday school we were talking about earlier. So a lot of Hayze genetics happily ever after washed with some communion. Not a great yelder, but gets those great turps. Would you like the flavor? Yeah, we were talking about that Hayes flavor is not around. Okay, but before we get to all these turps that we have on the table, I can't even show y'all. But there's like a box full of turps and then there's like his new stuff. I hear it. I'm like small smiles right here, it's it's plinko

and here if anybody knows what that is? So if I had to ask, I assume again you're a dam or you do smoke much flower? Yeah? No, I still smoke flower. I mean with starting the company, I think recently more so, I've been smoking a lot of flowers. Sorry if I look this way, guys, Oh yeah, I don't know. If anybody doesn't know cameras Hey, guys, Zina Zebra is right to our left here. She's a big part of Juna and my wife. So if you think I'm looking over here, there's no ghost, but yeah, there's

no Yeah. Sorry, we'll say that question again. I was just curious because you brought all dads, I'm curious. Do you smoke Flower often? Yeah? Like I was saying, I took a break for a while, I have a lot of stomach issues. I feel that I wanted to kind of that was kind of the reason I went away from Flower in the first place, and why I smoked more hash. And I've always kind of been

in a hash just because I smoked cigarettes for thirteen years. So getting out of the military and finding out that, you know, there was I had health problems that needed to you know, get rid of that. So I mean I smoked for five or six years, and I mean I smoke Newports shorts in the box and I like it. It was like coughing up blood one day and I was like, oh, this can't be good. Yeah, you know, like we hasn't done that. Yeah, so it's not

good man like. But no, So recently I have been smoking more flower. We have a product that we're working on that is gonna utilize flower in it. But it's the big part of it is hash so uh not at donut, not at donut. You guys will see something coming here in the next forty six months or so, including all right, I'm here for it. Nobody's seen it in the Michigan and the license market at least at least how we're doing it. So but it'll be fun right on, right on.

No, I like that. I like the innovative stuff. I'll be looking forward to that drop. Do you How do you guys prefer smoll Rosin all day? Like I will admit, like I mean, I'm doing me wrong. I love a good donut with this guy, but like you know, and I smoke flower. I do smoke flower here or there, but I smoke Rosin daves more regular and honestly, I've just recently made the switch to mostly Rosin because I used to just you know, whatever, you know

kind of guy das. But yeah, I credit myself on that. Well, I can't do that. No no, no, no, no, no, he don't get all the credit because you know it gets the credit the market crashing on the price with once the price wasn't eighty dollars a g for every single Rosin hit. I was like, okay, I can afford to do this more. And that's when I was like he did help though, Oh yeah, no no, And then I'm guessing you're more of the flower smoker. I hear you like the doughnuts mostly. Yeah, okay,

I've been digging a lot of donuts. I prefer flower. I grow my own. So I've heard on the show that you grow. And then I always hear him asking like like, uh kid on Christmas, when's it coming down? Well? Yeah, because well because like listen man, like I wish I had dials it in. It can be really good man, Like you know, I'm just building them up because he's like it's all right, you know what I mean. But like like the bangering, like I hope

that comes back around. That was fantastic. Oh that sounds good. That sounds good. What is that? Oh my, I'm blinking on this. Cross is Rainbow Chip and good Bonkers? Maybe yeah it's exotic genetically okay, exotic anything Mica and Micah anything. Yeah, it was real. Yeah, I wish I had some. I just chopped some and I'll be having some next week. Okay, Okay, I usually come out this way every other week, so I'll hit you guys up. Yeah, definitely, I'm always

here. Yeah man, no, I mean it was it was pretty good. Ship Man got third place in the organic cup I did, And honestly, like, what's funny about that is like it wasn't it was like, wasn't it like a freebie? It was like it wasn't even like when he bought it was just a freebie. It was like one of my fair drink He's grown. So that's pretty dope. That's pretty dope. I had no clue. That's actually really sick, dude, Like you're I had something to

share. Hey, there's plenty of time. Never say never, so so like let's talk. Let's talk. So what got you into making hash and doing this world? So I'll try to keep it brief, but uh, I guess my first introduction at hash was in two thousand and eight, two thousand and nine. Had a buddy who was growing auto flowers in his apartment across from oh you shout out Beacon Hill apartment. We have stupid amount of memories there. Said that just hit a weird memory I know for him too.

That's why we well we actually went to OU. Yeah, okay, that's where we rekindled our friendship because we have been boys like on and off since middle school. And we went to OU and that's where we like, you know, started to smoke a weed together. He's like, you know, and that's what's so funny when you said that, like I have friends that lived there. I was like, oh, that's funny. I remember

specifically going down. You go in there, you go like two actresses on your left, and then he's on the fourth floor, second apartment on right. That was allegedly I was alone, allegedly allegedly many years ago. But no, so yeah, I used to go there all the time, just get weed and stuff and hang out with him. And then we said two thousand and eight. Two thousand and eight, Yeah, scary because that's when

we were there. Oh shit, older, you guys old, older than I learned, older than I look, okay thirty two okay, okay, wait on had man Ivan Evan? Do you guys know Evan the name man? That's that's why did that part out? Yeah? Yeah, but yeah, so so so he used to go used grow auto flowers on his balcony. Like I hated going over there because I always thought that I was going to get cops were going to come every time. But I went over there one time and he had a home depot bucket and a drill and a paint

mixer, and I was like, what's going on. He's like, yeah, go in the kitchen, just start mixing it up. I'm like, why are we doing this to weed? Like what is going on? So we started doing it and then he pulled out some bubble magic bags and like you know, making the clay puck. And then I came back a week later and he let me smoke some and like that ship was the best ship

ever, and like I started smoking weed. Oh god. It was probably like two thousand and six, two thousand, yeah, probably two thousand and six. Uh. We had some rugs and then we had some permafrosts. How we knew it was good as we used to take the weed and like push it on the window and then if it stayed there, it was we knew it was really good. So the permafrost was sicky. The rugs had seeds in it, so we was but we used to call it like green

corns or something like that, but we were like mids. We just call it mids and ranks because people nowadays MIDS is garbage, which I get now because the quality. But dude, back in the day, MIDS was like, thank god I got MIDS because I used to smoke likes right B or b C. Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly. See I love these old terms, right oh man, man? And yeah, so uh after that, uh, you know, I was smoking weed a lot, kept getting in trouble with it with my parents. My mom kept grounding me

for it. And then my brother finally told me that my mom smoked weed and that the weed she was finding and taking for me, she was smoking it. So so yeah, so he told me where she kept it. I went and took my weed back and then made her sweat on it. I'd later find out she never even realized it until I brought it and put it back on the counter. But no, so we talked about it. We kind of got past it, and then a few weeks later I got arrested for weeds, so I really talked about it. Yeah, man,

But and then eventually left for the military, came back. I was in the army for six years. Thank you, thanks, thanks and after three years I came back to Michigan. Two and a half years, I came back to Michigan and did training here and did a lot of my soop training here. So I started growing weed and right in this in this neighborhood. So we had a few houses and Metro Detroit following me. Man, no, no, it's it's funny. It's like when you you told me where

you guys are at. I was like, man, I'm gonna this is like I'm going right to my old neighborhoods. But yeah, this is nostalgic for you, to be very very d I lived here for like seven years

of my life. This really is where I met. Like how when you say like local, like how local is so right across the street on Osceola so across and right yeah so like so like and then we had another place right across the street from here, okay, so like uh so yeah, we so we had we had a few grows, and then we pricely started dropping around two thousand and like sixteen twenty seventeen. Nothing crazy was still like you know, those higher twoes, but enough to where we started having an

abundance. So we started like making edibles and blowing b h O and like I started hitting it a hash again, and like nobody was buying the hash back then, Like I'd make all this bubble hash. I'd make like uh, dry sift hash, and like I remember back in two thousands sixteen, I was hitting up slmalless mind shout out a legacy guy, but he was doing dry sift and making it from like making full melt from dry sifts, so like basically shaking trim. Yeah, and then yeah, yeah he with

the giant like those Pocono screens. Yeah, so that's what I got into. I got really heavy into it. Nobody was buying that still, so I just smoking myself and then it was all that black taine back in the day. Oh man, I mean, I'm sure there's a point in my life where I should have been tested for something with all the but tane testing we had to do before there was testing. So sure it's really done good to us all. Yeah, it's yeah, shout out to all of our

old customers who didn't have to go through that. People didn't want hash back the day, but it's made a certain like a research well, I guess here like here in America, because I feel like hash has always been huge in Europe. Yeah, you always hear like how huge it is over there. I've heard, right, I've never been, but Middle East too, like, but here not a big thing till recently. And I'm loving it,

you know, oh yeah. But and that's where eventually, you know, the hair straightener thing came out and I was breaking hair straighteners putting flour in it. We had a resonator three thousand that you it was a pollen tumbler basically, so we were like Colin tumbling, collecting to keep and trying to press that on a homemade press we built at Harbor Freight, literally on three by three low temp presses before low temp was even like barely a company

so like, but nobody was nobody. I don't know why. I thought we had a bunch of I had bubble hashed in the freezer that I never touched. We never thought about pressing that. So like, after a while, I saw that around twenty eighteen that licensure was coming, so like basically everyone was going to be able to get a license to legally, and like I had met my wife and I didn't want to. I want to be able to get a house. I want to be able to do this like

legally and get like on paper. So people go through some crazy stuff like you mean, like that's the thing, man, Like you know, more power to how you want to do it with the gray or mart, you know, Pray Area market, what do you want to call it? Oh yeah, no, more power to you, you know, like because there's a lot of belief in that. But like I get it. But at the same time, like you know, after watching what he went through,

man, and like it's just you don't want to see that. That shit's crazy, you know, like no, no, And that kind of pushed me. So that's where I got a job with Oh yeah, yeah, And I started working at a retailer that we that we used to provide in the caregiver market and did regional operations for them, launched a lot of their Grand Rapid stores, and then ended up working for Wild Gummies, so I

was a sales account manager with them. During this whole time, I was going through the whole process of getting my license, getting pre qualified, looking for real estate, and basically just keeping in the markets. So like I

learned how retailers worked, how a purchaser worked. I opened up stores and had to hire and managed over eighty people in multiple stores and grand rapids, and so after that, I was able to kind of see that back end of sales for like one of the more popular, one of the larger brands in the country, and honestly, my opinion, has one of the most effective sales team and culture in any cannabis company in the United States right now.

So like being able to kind of work for them and then start my own company was like the biggest thing for me because like we were going to do everything from a grow to bh O to edibles retail. We're going to do fully vertebrated fully. Yeah. So and over the years I got to

see how that kind of went. Like I started working and managing right when license happened, Like we were some of the first stores I got licensed, and then I got to see how to launch them and like see how these companies would unfortunately invest way too much money off the rip and then you know, not realize that the market crashes or or realize that well, it's up and downs, right, like you know, especially with cropping, like in

legal states too, we noticed that like when people's people are cropping there in the summer, Like there's like it is a definitely slow period for a couple of months for people, you know, and same thing with like you know how like any of the year st people are spending money on other things and yeah, so it's rough and it's rough, and like you know, you can just see it over the years and it's getting better and like so I

got the idea from basically like seeing how Wild didn't do anything but just produced gummies. I like home something. Yeah, and like I knew what I always loved. I loved Hash. I always liked Hash. I didn't want to get back into vh O because the liability of like gases pressed gas is also the market going very down, So like I just focused in the last two three years on making Rosin and just honing my craft, going to many seminars, talking to many people, meeting as much as I can, watching

everything I can, testing out and running as much as I can. But basically that kind of led to where we are now. And like, uh, yeah, I don't know, I kind of kind of lost my train of thought there, no, no, no, And honestly, let's like like I want to preview this because we haven't even mentioned the hash yet and I love getting the background. But because we got the little preview taste some of them at Gangstaboo Produce, we're all we all took a round of them.

So yeah, that's what happened, you know. But no, no, no, that's awesome. When did it opened up? When did you guys open up officially? Yeah? September? We got licensed August September. We got product first in market in October, so only six months. So it's been pretty quick. It's been, uh, it feels like it was yesterday. Yeah. Oh and you know what, by the way, your train of thought you were si we you were talking about like honing in after

you were watching My Wild and going in your own company. Oh yeah yeah, so like I came to me, so I was like I got it. No, no, no, you're good. And like I saw, I saw a huge benefit and basically just focusing on the one thing that you know how to do and where you have passion. Because what I saw is that when companies had multiple different areas that they had to focus on, but there was only one main guy doing the focus there, you kind of lose

touch. It's not one hundred and ten percent in all areas hundred. Yeah, so yeah, oh yeah, simly sense, you know, and we wanted to like put everything we have into this. Everything I was able to learn, all the people I met, all the relationships I was able to create over the years, and like it kind of helped me do what we wanted to do and create an all around product and like basically not just a product, like a community and a culture that's not here in the license market.

So like seeing from the beginning that like there's always been this unjust to an un educated customer from an untransparent packaging. And that was the first problem that I've always seen in the industry. You know, we saw it with distilate hybriditiva many years now, customers are like, man, I got played, I got played flavors, flavors and then they're like strain flavors. So

like there's always been like that's just an example. And like so when I was getting this going and I decided I want to go on the you know, journey of Rozon with it, I saw that happening. Like you know, if you look a year and a half ago, it was eighty ninety dollars a gram for no and it was just like across the board, like

no giving, like and like you didn't know what you're getting. Sometimes it was dry still you know, or it wasn't because you liked it, but you're like, why would I spend four times as much for something that you know, I didn't know? I guess for me, I didn't understand it yet, right, Like it makes sense to a lot of people, and that's the problem. So like I saw that there was it was happening,

and I'm like, I can't. I can't let this happen. So like there's a few companies in the state that we're doing it a little bit here and there, but like their customers had no clue. It was so like they might have pulled back on it. So like seeing that kind of happen, and like coming into the market, I wanted to also noticing that like most of this market is captured in the in the black market where it came from, So where the roots. You know, it's for the caregivers.

You know, built the metric system, and like honestly, you know, I built the caregiver market people taking the risk and just growing the ship looks the black market, gray mark. I try to call it great market now because technically it's not I don't like to put it with like all the other drugs, like you know what I mean, because it's like it's a little different because it's sort of legal depending on things, like yeah, it's like you know what I mean, Like it's always so convoluted. So I always

think weed's kind of become its own thing, you know. So, but no, one hundred percent, I couldn't agree with you more because we just it's just like the black market or where the roots are at. Oh yeah, and like you know, the thing you're seeing in the black market with a lot of these brands is you know, transparency in the packaging ferstauses cycles, Yeah, microns, what temperature they should dab it at? Where did

you find it at? Like so so like seeing that that wasn't like fully happening in the in the market, I wanted to be transparent right away because transparency is like so trusting a company is huge where you're going to go back

again and again and again. You know, you know, actually marketing might get you a customer once you guys have great packaging and and you know, and there's a recent and like oh yeah, actually you not to cut you off, but I think you are the only people to ever get perfect packaging and our right. Yeah I heard this, Yeah I did. Like at the same thing, I was like, I don't know what I could. Yeah, I had to get I was been waiting. I love it,

I know. But you give all that to the consumer. I think that's awesome. They should know all that. You should be able to look it up and if they don't want to, at least it's there for them exactly. The package is not excessive either. In the boxes it comes with a little cool dab tool, like where's that you want to put in the cannon

cam? Yeah? Yeah, and we'll talk about we'll definitely talk about this here in a second, and like this is a whole part of what we kind of wanted to do and like what we're you know, I saw that there was good Rosin brands out there. We just came in the box just to be clear so people understand. So it's like just in case you're like me and you actually are like, oh, ship, where's my dam tool?

When you may or may not be dabbing on a go or if you're and you just you just can have a dabber and it's perfect, this nice little thing and it's a backup. Yeah, it came this morning. We finally use it because David couldn't fine women. It was like perfect, I love it. I love it. And that's and that's kind of the thing for it, Like you know, it's kind of that round circle aspect of like the brand. So like we saw that there was good there was good

packaging out there. We saw that there was good hash out there, but there wasn't a full circle of everything that was encaptured. And like the traditional market, I'll call it what I like to call it traditional. I like that. Yeah, that's I think I might do that. No, no, And I encourage people to use it because black black market is a very it's it's built from a stigma, and like we're really trying to break that

stigma. But but to not get not get stuck on that, we kind of wanted to give the full round circle to make everything just simple for not only us, not only our our employees, our fans, our customers and our buyers at the stores and our employees. So like we wanted to give good packaging that first helps a store succeed, so that it's not just something sitting on the shelf, it gets caught by your eye and you want to get Yeah, so at the same time you open it up and then you

see these jars. We actually I do all the designs in house, so like each jar, I do myself, and I come up to these new things every single time. So on top of that, too, we wanted to include information and we slowly started doing it at first by like adding microns.

We weren't seeing anyone labeling mic and you're right, You're right, I do see that, like when I get it from the caregivers and stuff like you know, like when I've gone to like the you know, big cloud events, you know or big big cloud farm events whatever, I really enjoy them, Like I love going to those, and that was, you know, awesome. I was grateful to play a couple so you know, happened

to be there already. But like we, uh we we bought some really good rosent there, you know, superior solve with this which now is gone legal. Yeah, and then like we've tried, I don't know, shout out the legacy leg legacy. I like legacy too, but just like you said, I don't like that black market term because it almost had this connotation to like all these other drugs too, and that's I'm like, no, weeds a little different now, like you know, it just is it really

is and involved a bit. So the whole the whole point we want the thing is is like when the customer comes in and like they're buying rosin, and like, since it's becoming more popular, we we want them to ask questions about it because that how that's how we succeed in the category. That's how we get people wanting to talk about it more. Then it gets to

be more more interested. So like when they're buying rosin and they're spending you know, fifty sixty bucks on this rosin and like they're eventually picking up our brand and like, do you mind if I see that project zeroal quick? Uh? This one? Yes? No, this is your RS eleven but it's empty. Actually, can't believe it's gone. It's gone gone the head this is this is some of our recently my last dab so this is pretty cool. So yeah, this is some of our original packaging and like we

wanted to kind of include like the microns. That's the first thing we noticed and like that's a huge aspect in hash. Yeah, you know, understanding microns and where those tri comheads lay. It's really between that the most predominant is going to be between seventy through one f nine and like where we find the cleanest is through the seventy through one nineteen. So understanding that, you know, sometimes with the full spectrum product, you know, to achieve ROI,

we understand that it needs to happen. Sometimes people will put a full spectrum, full spectrum and some people have success with it because we've had a couple of we had some decent stuff and their full spectrum and like it's I don't know if I can always tell if it's like washed really well, but there, I think you're right. I think there is some mad scientists behind it where you're like, no, no, this is where it's dialed in

and like you hash makers though, so like I believe you. So when you say that, I definitely want I'll take that to heart because now when I see that, when you say seventy you to one nineteen, like yes, I mean like like you know, the turp heads out there, tricombe heads mature just like the leaf on the plants. So like you're gonna see us. You're going to see the stumb, and then you're gonna see a

stock. At first, it's gonna be this tiny, little bulbous ball, and then over time it's going to start growing and growing and growing enough to where it builds a callus and then comes up very brittle on its neck, so that when we go to extract that, it's very easy to pu that off. And we're we see, like, if it's a very small head and it's laying in our forty five bag, it's most likely an unmature hat.

Doesn't mean it's bad. It just means that the effects from that aren't going to be really what we're all looking for if we're paying a little bit more for it. So that's and that's like the whole reason for our tiers. So like we so like we wanted people to kind of see like, okay, so in our tier three, they so what are your tiers? Like, let's break it down from people don't know, I mean using there's like just tier one and tier two, but you have like a few Yeah,

so five right now, there's no five that's come out yet. Ok So it's one. It's it's basically one, two, three, four, Tier one and tier two are always going to be hunahunas phase forward. That's that's the best of the best, and then that's Tier three through five is

actually where ground Score by Huna starts. So I used to do a lot of yeah so exactly, Okay, I don't know what the meaning is, but like for me, I was a gross scours like so basically, oh yeah, so back when Electric Force is starting, just we had friends who were doing volunteering for it. We used to go to all of them.

So like, basically, over time, it became a term that we used for the feeling you get when you're cleaning up or walking around and you find that bag of weed on the ground or that that case of beer, or that little bit of money or you know that those those party Yeah, at a festival, it's very hard to locate. Hey, he's twenty dollars bill. This is you know exactly who's bag of Hey, so yeah, it's

mine, you know what I mean? Like, oh, like understanding that I wanted, like our our what we feel is our more budget friendly line to be something. It gives you that same feeling that you found something amazing but it didn't really cost you much. So like and that's where like, yeah, so to kind of like break down how the tears work and how like the microns work into this, so like understanding how hash is is kind

of washed and like how Rozin's made. You know, there's multiple wash cycles, and then there's multiple microns and with each micron there's this there's a bag or a separate micron screen. So most people run to a standard of like six seven micron bags, sometimes only three or four. So when you're washing, you're gonna have multiple cycles. So you're gonna have your first wash or second wash, or third wash or fourth wash, depending on how you wash.

So usually the best material is gonna come from the first wash usually right, sometimes environments, second wash is better. You know, it's funny like that just just before it just run away, like I've heard that. I just don't know what the truth is. So that is true, Like I don't understand that because I always assumed first washed better. So and think about it in this way, and this is where it's really the cleanliness of the

environment the grower. Think of the first thing that's gonna come off of plant, the easiest, the first one dust and debris. So whatever's just laying on that butt originally is going to be so say it's a greenhouse environment or a large so it's going to be the first thing that we see that's floating

up in the water and it contains in the hash. And it's a lot of the times actually where the dark yes, yes, So we've seen on runs we we don't see that, but we've seen on runs where we get more plant spectrum and some of our micro micron polls that aren't in the second.

So we started and like start with certain growers to different environments. We started isolating that and like that was one of the things that we came in and I'll talk about more after we get through the tiers, but there's so many different environments in the license market that we wanted to not do things by standard, and like that was the biggest thing. So like basically kind of

how the tears work. Our tier one is always our first wash. It's always going to be our first through third wash one of these cycles, depending on where we feel is the cleanest hash. And that's one thing that we want everybody to understand about hash. Anybody can make good hash, It's about how clean your hash is. Because the dirtiest hash can be terrible, but the cleanest hash, no matter what grower it is, you're going to have a good, good smoke. It's gonna have a good flavor and it's not

gonna it's not gonna be bad for you in the sense. So but also what that means is is we don't include a lot of top end larger ones. Is you guys see like you might see like forty five through one fifty nine, or like seventy through one forty nine, or like seventeen seventy through one to fifty nine. Yes, sometimes these larger heads and like the one twenty through one fifty nine are good because they're larger and they have a lot

of effects. But sometimes the problem with that is is that because it's a larger micron, and you think about that, that mean it's just a larger hole instead of it being smaller. It's letting through also more plant material, so also can be pulling in some of that chlorophylled taste, some of that it's non really taste that you kind of want your where you're just looking for

that really good flavor. So we kind of that's where we had a lot and we usually lately it's been a lot of ninety through one nineteen or seventy through one nineteen. There's been a few runs that we've seen where it's very clean in the top end, but very few. Often we don't see that. So usually our tier one or our Tier two are always going to be the first wash through, second or third of the seventy through one nineteen or the ninety three. Right, that's specific Micron bag. That is where usually

because it's gone through. And I'll tell you guys later, we have a lot of different wash methods and most standard but because of that, well, see that that's what's interesting because you said that if I find that very fascinating, because I don't know what everyone's different standards are for washing, because if you're washing full spectrum, first, second, third wash just means your first, second, third wash, right, But what you just grabbed this whole

point of like you're washing your second third wash only with certain Micron bags. And I've never thought about that. I thought every second wash and third wash would just be like full spectrum so they can get the most Yeah, and

I don't kind of you. I just love it. Yeah, And you're on the right track there, and it's kind of like different scenario to different scenarios, since we do different things in different ways and we have different wash methods, and like kind of like to hone in on like the standardized wash because like everyone knows kind of how to wash nowadays, and like that's the thing that's how you do it differently, So like the standardized washways, you're

doing multiple wash cycles at fifteen to twenty minutes, and usually you're gonna put in around four or five bags. You're gonna get that forty five, the

lower und you're gonna get that seventy. You're having the ninety, the one twenty, the one fifty nine, and then you're usually have a two twenty and the two twenties where you catch all that bigger stuff, the one fifty nine where you're gonna catch all those like hairs and like leftover small or broken up chlorophyll, and then you're gonna contain everything else down in the one twenty,

the ninety, and the seventy. Some people like to put their forty five in because it does help with yields and sometimes it does not affect like the overall quality of it. Sometimes it gives it better lay and I'll get that into that a second. But so I'm just like it should be taken notes. Yeah, I implore everyone if you guys ever want to learn more about hash French and Canoli shout out rest in peace to him. But we actually had Madame Cannoli when they were doing uh virtually. She wasn't nice.

She was doing a tour for f uh French the documentary. They were working there before you passed. Oh yes, they were doing a drive. Yeah yeah, like in Chicago or something. Okay, okay, happened to get you know us. Yeah, They're like yeah, yeah, please please, this is super goo one, especially when he filled me in showed me the hat, like oh g and the hash game is anyway, sorry no, and like it's it's funny because I always say this in the community. It's

like how how small the community is. It's like, you know, we just went in took Madam Cannoli's class, like in November. We just got to meet her and Bella and like do their class and like, but yeah, I implore everyone if you want to learn about hash. It was it was good. It was great to check off the bucket list. That's what I'll say. Very insightful. It's a very worth trying for some hashmakers and

a very good for anyone who wants to be getting into a beginner. If you're looking for more of a more advanced class, I would say there are some techniques that you can learn for like more traditional stuff. Anyone that you want to shout out or you know before helped like kind of like education.

Oh yeah, man, it sounds like you really like. I think that's one thing I respect because I've kind of overheard, like I think it was I thought it was someone mentioned that on like Reddit I was reading did you talk about Smoky the Bear? Yeah, So Smokey's had a big influence on us. That's where I met Xavier. I took one of his first classes about two and a half three years ago and might have been a little shorter, but yeah, no, he's he's given us a lot of a lot

of insight, a lot of knowledge. We've gone back and gone to his classes recently to kind of do things. We've had some talks about psibly moving his class into our license facilities so we can start doing a more in depth like kind of like giving both aspects of traditional to like license on. Yeah, yeah, so like like that's the one thing we try. We don't try to keep much information because like I said, it's everybody knows how to

wash kind of the same. But well, that's what I just wanted to give you respect because items like you're really out here trying to learn from people, and like you already just mentioned Madam Cannoy and Smoky so like anyone else you like, yeah, because it looks like you really care about just learning about it. So just that's all, Yeah, I mean, simply Adam, Simply Adam has been a huge one. He's the also the owner of

resin Dial if he has ever heard of resin Dial. It's a for jar test washing, So it allows you to do fifteen to twenty grams and kind of do a small wash and be able to collect those microns that we talked

about, Oh, kind of like the shakes. Yeah, you're doing still doing the shake, but you kind of put it through this like contraption that kind of looks like a grinder but a lot bigger with but instead of like uh having like different layers of different things, each one just has different micron screens in it that you pull out after and collect a hash on it, so I really really awesome. Yeah yeah basically and like so he's been a huge He's one if you guys ever heard of Ego clash or no. Yeah,

I think he's took an award there. He's he's pretty well known in like the hashmaker community as very very well knowledged. He's been helping us out a lot in like a few ways with the res and dial and just being a support. Same thing with Humphrey Hashe She gave us a scholarship to his online training for Fine Arts of making Hash shout out Thomas Humphrey Humphrey Hache.

But yeah, so he gave us a free scholarship to his website to do his freeze drift training, so we were able to kind of capture how he does his training and stuff like that. This is great. This is great tips for to any hashmaker as the hash because I mean, the education is

there. And it's funny I said that to him. Like, over the past few years, I feel like hash went from like only certain people made it good to out of nowhere, everyone was making hash rasn't really good and it was just like damn, I'm going to have a no, no, no do it. I love it. This is actually awesome our office screen. But yeah, man, and like there's a lot of other people as I'm going, I'll probably shot them out as that that's cool, but no, no, no, no, yeah, we don't have to go in

order. I was more just like because I remember I could, you know, just when I was doing research and product myself. I remember coming across the Reddit thing and they're like, oh man, respect for them to look at the research for smoking. I just want to bring that up because for me, like when I'm buying rosin, someone who makes hash, I want

to support someone who really cares about the product. I don't want to support a company who's just making Rosin because it's selling, you know, because like there's a different care that goes behind it and like it's you know, that's it. I just I wanted to bring it up for our listeners because a lot of our listeners are very like they love this ship. I love that, and that's so that's why I do this, Like like we all three of us have the same passion. Like, you know, I met Xavier

in some of these classes, like I'm met Xavier. Xavier is our calmer HASH director. He's our so we're a small team as you guys know, it's just three of us, It's just me, Zina and Xavier. So we're also self honed, self operated, so like we don't really have we're not corporate or anything. So like we're super small batch, so like less than five hundred grams. Usually we're about to launch the Hunahad stash, so to kind of while we're talking about as stash, we're talking top Yeah.

Yeah, this brings back to like the tiers, so like, yeah, the ground score, like that's where that kind of feeling came from. So like our tier three, so like our tier one, Tier two is always going to be that first swash that what we feel is is always going to be the best. Tier one is we're always going to get the best profile, the best flavor, best consistency, and we feel for that for that strain. And that's the one thing we want people to start understanding too.

Not every strain is going to be wet, guys, I know, want we wish, well, no, it happens even but I mean even something I've smelled that was dry or its freaking smells amazing. It's like I test my nose, man. Oh yeah, So and like that's the whole The thing we want people to understand is one term we're trying to DM and we're about to make some shirts on It's not all hashes created equally, so like that's why we want to show different aspects of hash. And we look at

hash like it's wine. So like we have our tier one where you can go get our QC controlled hash where you can get where we've done temperature control on how that color is looking when it's actually getting burned on a nail, so that like when you're paying that high dollar price, you're not ruining your

nail. Second late, we're looking at how fast it burns off and evaporates, and also what temperatures because we started including on our products suggested DAP temps so that you can go home and be like okay, because we notice like different terpenes evaporate at different rates. No, right, it's going to recommend them and also create that question in their head of wait, I've been doing this wrong? Wait, what's these microft It's good because sometimes when you ask

yourself questions, that's what you want. So what you want to spark people's like interest in things that they start doing the research and like the ROS and care degree right now is so small because of that. So the more that we can get customers looking at these things and questioning like what's these microns?

Like what's this here? Get some asking, so now they now like you're at our tier three line and like basically tier one, you're gonna get our best Stuff're always gonna get the best thing, down to color, down to everything. Sometimes we do sacrifice color because we want the customer to start asking answering question like why did they put this in their tier one like our projects e because mature heads, you're going to get an amazing fact there. We

don't believe that the color kind of changes the quality of hash. Yeah, well we used to. We used to. I used to be on that tip very early ROS and days, like I was like, oh, you know, lighter is better lighter, But then like as I started doing I was like, you know, I'm just gonna go with trust my nose because like at the end of the day, like a shot into it too, that project type area. Oh yeah, and like that was so that was

shot out Adams family farms. That was their living soil beds and their greenhouses. That yeah, so they're an amazing grower. They do over one hundred and eighty five different genetics in the house. They work with like mostly Humblebee for the past few years. Okay, yeah, so they started branching out

recently and doing a lot of stuff with different hash makers. But so Tier two, you're gonna it's basically kind of like that same thing, but it might not meet one of those aspects, like it might not be the lightest or it might not have the overall amazing flavor, but you're going to get the cleanest hash possible. And that's the whole aspect of it. So when you get in ground score, that's where we usually include our full specs.

So usually after our third wash, that's when we're going to get into kind of pulling a full micron or we'll continue because what we do is select microns, So we keep every single micron separate through every single wash cycle, which means I know hashmakers are going to probably be like, yeah, these guys

aren't doing this. No, we really do have about twelve trays on a cart, so we are literally keeping every single one from every single cycle and keeping them separately because we have different categories of where we put our hash, so like with our forty five through one fifty nine, we do feel and like we've seen on like if anybody's tried our slaps, so our slaps Tier one was very profound, very flavorful, and insanely like cocont a peanut cole

out of orange, Like dude, it was insane and like, but it wasn't like the wettest. It had more that sheen, like crystal sheen on it. So like, but when you get into our full speck, which was the third through sixth wash, and it was a forty five to one fifty nine, it was way shinier and it was wet and it laid and it was like a nice like wet butter. And so what that means is

it had a lot of forty five heads. So if you think about a tricombe head and an immature state, it doesn't have that waxy coating that gets around that tricombe that keeps its dexterity. So it's going to burst a lot quicker on that press. So when we get it into the jars, it's going to give that overlay more as in holding its stability kind of like that

top und for that strain specifically. So what we're noticing that if we're keeping less higher micron and this is where we're going to be doing slaps again, and we're going to do a seventy through one fifty nine first wash because we saw that in higher micron with the lower micron, we want to see that kind of test of like, all right, are we going to be able to capture more of a wet consistency or is this going to kind of stay

the same. And that kind of solidifies things that we're trying to answer ourselves so we can get it kind of back to our customers and kind of be like, hey, get yourself asking questions because it also gets us asking questions, which gets us making new things. So and that's the cool thing about Hash there's always new things every day. Wow. Okay, so it's one, two, three, four, and then we're going to be head stashed. Yes, So for four is where we have cured hash rosen. We

do cures okay, yeah, that we also do live. It's where we also just do QC. So if we don't feel that it's meeting our one through three, we're gonna put it in four because we still have customers and like that's the thing is we look at it like I love that you do that because sometimes when you go it's even myself when I go to the dispo, I am sometimes balling on a budget because something happened in my car right knock on wooden because that sucks. But yeah, I know, I know.

I was gonna say, somebod you run a roll. I was like, no, I think it's about that time. We've got to like, you know, we've been going here and talking about hack, but we're almost I do want to dig into your product and shout up your product. I'm almost there, but like, yeah, I know the headstae. I love that because you know, everyone's ball on a budget. Sometimes sometimes people want to treat themselves, you know. So that's why I like to have that

like variance. It's wine, man, you like boons Farms? Sometimes you don't like boons Farm Sometimes if you do, like all the time, you still want to go up to Traverse City, go to the winery, learn about it, get really good wine, and spend a little bit more from it. I would just go hang out with his Canadad man. Oh nice, nice, I've never seen I've never seen someone sniff a glass of wine, so I'm met and shout out, and that's what I love you,

man, And that's the passion we want to create. Might he listens, but no, man, right, But it's a flavored connoisseewer, right. Nonetheless, like when you're doing turps and smoking weed and when you're enjoying a fine cigar or drinking fine wine. There's levels to ship, right. You can go get some box wine or you can go spend one thousand dollars on

a bottle of wine. Yeah, And really it's just most people in the ross category and now are going to that mid to it's like forty forty five dollars, fifty dollars, and like we want them to try it, see that product, see like forty five, the one fifty nine, and then ask their ask their bud tender like oh hey, what does that mean? And then they educate them and then they go back and they're like, wait, so you're saying for ten dollars more, I can get an even more

superior product than this already, like okay, cool, Yeah. And then so it's doing what you don't see a lot often first, getting customers, like trying new things getting customers asking question making making stores happy because now they're now they're helping out like getting larger card sizes in this very depleting market on high quality products. So like it's it's it's a it's benefits. It's it's a ying and yang, it's a ying. Oh, and like it's it's

it's helping. It's helping a market a category that doesn't have explanation details to decide for two ends a retailer to purchase product effectively and not at the same price and charge everything at the same price. So now they can go and get product that's the quality of what they feel a forty dollars MSRP or a thirty five dollars or a fifty or sixty, while also helping a customer guide themselves in the right direction they want to go learning, learning exactly, but

sorry, but that's not take your da before we forget. But that makes sense because you're guiding someone to like this is the intro level of cured hash. This is the middle grade of like this is like what we consider mid grade hash because like that's the big thing too, especially getting into dabs and like you know, getting into reviews, right because it's been hard to kind of like really judge it, you know, as and as you learn you get to really dial it in. So over the years, I feel like

now I can judge stuff better. That's very some of this, Yes, some of the can of cam Man. So I'm gonna puffed because it's a really cool piece of Yeah, this shot up Gangster bo fourteen, So I'm about to this guy real quick. Oh yeah, so yes, shout out Pure Coast Beganics guys, if you're looking for that shines, this is gangster right, Yes, gangs to be number fourteen. It's a growing Buce Began. They're living soil veganic operation on a Michigan I believe in the Kaesu area,

but they are. There are some of the most interesting, interesting flavors. We've been able to wash some of the cleanest material for if you're a very conscious smoker, conscious connoiseur. I would like to call it so uh, it's we're very happy with it. And this is one we're actually going to be doing a first time ever where it's going to come out in the Tier one, Tier two, and Tier three because this I'm sorry, it'll be whoa had stash tier, just different different levels of watch. Yeah,

and mainly because we felt that our midway seven seventy through one nineteen. Like I said, we keep all trades. So we did one where it was first washed seventy through one nineteen, and then we had third through fifth wash

seventy through one nineteen and it is still amazing. Guys. Wow, And like this, I feel like sometimes even the flavor changes a bit, like as you when you go through it, because I don't know if you're like losing certain turpenes throughout like that process, but it's like sometimes flavor will change. So the fact that it stayed that true, that's pretty cool. And that's kind of exactly what you just said right there. So that's what we're

noticing. We when we do these jars and we whip them up separately and we're putting them in front of us, we'll smell one. Each one smells amazing in its own different way, like the top end of those games all smell amazing. We are smelling some of these unreleased stuff and many when's the gates we're going to be out in the market, so, and where's where's most of your products at? For our listeners? That as well. Yeah, so I think we're in about thirty stores. Now, let's see we're

in we're in the Mint Cannabis locations. Uh puff Utica. Let's see, we just launched it in the High Society stores. So all their stores across the state. Closest one of you guys, I think is Lennox. So there were around I believe in the grass at twenty six area that way, okay, and you know there's discos out there. Actually, the closest one is right down the street, Plane fifty nine in our hometown. Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, Waterford, So we're over there. And then let's

see, uh, Oldswell. So we're in Adrian and Grand Rapids along with gosh, why am I blanket here? Is you know helped me out here. We got Southland Farms down in Niles, Micro Business, Organic Girl as well. Really cool, really cool team there. I know you're in Butter because that's where I got your butter. That's what we got. I was like, where did we get it? And they had the Greasy Mints collab

with Butter was was one we didn't get it. But because when they had another deal going and we really wanted to try, I really want your r s elevens. I just want to try so Butter, Butter we've come to start working with recently, everybody keeps asking me if we're affiliated and anyway no or not. It was because a lot of a lot of the Yeah, a lot of your collass people tried they saw the butter and a lot of people saw that, like, you guys were connected. I thought we were

connected. Yeah, well we thought you were. Butter is raws and brain. Yeah, and it's we just we just don't know, man, we we we. I didn't know them before like five months ago. I started meeting them, we started hanging out, met their team. It's just for four dudes who like put us together. Each one has a different like category they take care of and like, uh today the grower there is this amazing

dude. He is pulling out some amazing things there. Guys like they have and the reason why we like working with them so much, it's very consistent product, very consistent with every time we get it. It's we we don't have surprises. We are able to get many different strains, like strains that you're not seeing on the market, like things that are coming up like I mean, like this Sunday School that we that we used as a mixer into

the Bring your Best dab. So the Sunday School is there happily ever after wash with Communion, it's that one we were talking about that has a yz very hazy, very like mango green cracked old school vibes, but like it Uh sorry, do you guys want one to? Oh? Yeah, yeah, I was gonna do the puff go. I've been like I'm drooling over

here a little bit, so you know what I'm saying. No, well, no, it's great to hear and like learn about how much you can and stuff, but like at the end of the day, like I'm excited to try this product. Yeah yeah, And it's not like I haven't tried it. It's just like after smelling them all, they all if you guys see, like, I'm excited between everything we we do with them, like

they just put it. That is grease one eleven. Was that the one you did with water or is that a different grease mince or was that because I remember it, wasn't that the same strain that you guys did with butter right? One of them? At least? Yes, I saw that's the one I saw. Yeah, yeah, so that's here. We uh we had the opportunity to watch watched their Grease mins one eleven as in a shout out east Side Alchemy. They did the two thirty three. Johnny's doing some

amazing stuff over there. Yeah, but uh no, we like working with them. They have some amazing strains in their unique things that are coming up that you're gonna have to see. Like many many other places, they're just some down earth guys like they they aren't like they are doing some really fun things. There's there's staff culture. When I came in the store was just amazing, Like everybody wanted to speech you, talked about you. Everybody was

a hash out of the store, wanted to learn more about it. And they've just been very fun to work with and like really kind of like everyone that we've kind of started kind of closing on our family or community we call growers and kind of like who we work with right now beyond Green Voyage, Bloom Butter Pure Coast. It does seem like you're do You seem like you're you're doing welcoming more in the family and doing a lot more collapse And I love that, you know, you know, shout out to one of our

like homies that we had on the podcast. A fifth Age does that a lot and works with people that they connect with their brand. And I think that sometimes when you're like you do this really great, let me do this really, it's just like, you know, you can come up with some really good stuff. So I like to see. That's really cool that you're seeing that and kind of expanding out. Oh yeah, and like our whole

thing is we want to highlight these small growers in the state. You know, there's there's some large companies out there that have that recognition and are you gonna be coming out with more full mot Yes. So that's and that's kind of like the sneak peek into uh where we've been doing a live star and six star selections because I want to dab some points. I absolutely let's let's let's get some full melt going. So what we got here is Butter's Alien

cookies, cushments. It's I mean, when I mean this stuff starting battering up, I love it. I love it over here. Oh yeah yeah, so yeah, I'll probably pull a little off because that's a chalker unless you want that my man challenge. So all right, you got to go a little hotter for this. So for for any of your guys, fans, or anyone out there who doesn't know what full melt is. A full melt we explained it a little earlier, but it's just the unpressed hash that's

called bubble hash. But it's a consistency and clean enough that will not leave debris on your banger. So and that is our hope now to understand with full melts, you will get debris on your banger. Yeah, it's the expectation, but there is a different high. It's personally my favorite high. You get a more full spectrum high on it. Honestly, it's it's uh. If you talked a lot of hashmakers, they're going to tell you they don't like dabbing full melt, but they love the effects of full melt.

So like it can, it can be a dirty banger, and we're at the perfect time. So I was just going in there at like four eighty to four seventy five because you're not burning the chirps and you're not gonna you're not gonna create carcinogens. So exciting, Yes, in silence, willibuts Dave, I would say that looks pretty clean. Wouldn't you say, Yeah, that's what I was looking at. I was just that looks super clean. I'm excited to try that. Oh, run away, run away, away

away. I don't know if that's a song, but it's going to be today. So when is? When is? When's your full melt hit in the market. That seems like you're almost like and how does that taste? Well? What I was trying to get into, But it tastes what I love about fullball versus like like a rise. It almost stays almost true more to like the weed. And that's a little bit more that true taste, you know when you heard it this guys okay, I he's like taking the

words before I can even say. But no literally, and like that's why I got into hash from originally because we were making BHL at the time, dude, And like I I was just first I didn't like the you know, putaine in the second it wasn't like the weed. It wasn't like the

weeds. And I was like, man, if I can get so that's why I want to drive in my mouth the tastes of stone, oh man, and like and man, I want to show this on the little cam here but I mean we we so dipped it and like barely anything on there, guys, so like, oh yeah, very Actually let's let's down here super clear. Look at that. Yeah, a little bit on there, and that's the thing you want to expect, so you always want to get

in there. And if I could see a Q tip, usually this is a good good thing to do. Get a little bit on the outside, make sure you got nothing. But the thing you're looking for is really if you can clean off full melt with the same thing, two Q tips and then a little bit of ISO, that's where it's going to be a good full mount. That's clean up. It's not going to ruin your bangers. But key under five hundred four eighty is a good time for full melt.

You can always give it a slight more heat, but you're not trying to know. I always tasty, man, I'm excited for day over here. I'm excited too. Now now now you excited to steal his dad? Yeah? Now if you have an option, Now you have an option. We have another pure coast. Interesting cause I thought you almost would go hotter because

it's more solid. But when you go cooler, you really hit you really taste that flavor because when I was doing the full melt before, I was trying to heat it hotter because I thought it was because almost like just my brain was yeah, so I didn't get that full flavor. I was like, okay, it's I get it tastes more like bud right, but it didn't have that full that actually had flavor in it, like not actually had

flavor. It had the full like turpy flavor them oh yeah, And like I mean, if you think about the term of itself, it's full melt. So the aspect is we wanted to fully melt, so it should indeed a lot of remember that's what we get. We get full molt. That was pretty much people just lying to us and giving us and then I want to I wanna sorry this is no, no, no, I'm sorry, this is this is I haven't opened this jar since it's been pulled out the

fridge. And once again, they always surprise us. So that Gangster me we looked at earlier was some of the first stuff we watched with them. We have another one that's coming out that where I believe we're the first people to watch the number five of this. But it's a grand prix, so once again living. So I beganics and this is how you this is. This is usually a good sign when you have some good film. Melts dead center. Yeah, okay, it lays down and looks yes, okay,

really literally, I thought it was like fresh press or something. So this is full mout so glossy. It's got that glossy. Look here, let's get some out of here. So I'm literally staring at my little screen when it's right behind the screen. I could just like look at the actual I'm like, damn, I can't see the term. So I can just like look up a little bit and like you'll see here, let me go back holes away from itself there here Actually, let me go full screen with that

can of cam so people can get the factor, the factor. Let me know where I am you. Yeah, so this is the grand pre number five by them. I believe we're the first one to do. What do you watch this? But this is an amazing full mount. Unfortunately this time we will not be launching the full moult on this time, so we're going to do it again with them. But this came out amazing. Guys.

We're very excited and yeah, it looks really nice. Yeah, we're really excited to start dabbling more into full mounts and start getting the customer people in general just more more educated on it so that like they know what they're getting into. So like first they're not doing it. They're not smoking something that's going to cost them a lot wrong, because that's what we all hate it.

It's like when you buy something you have no idea how to use it, Like you're just like to me, when I buy a new cannabis product and I have no idea how to use it, it's like I kia, I fucked that ship up. Dude. Every time it's it doesn't it doesn't work right, like it's falling over. It's like teeter tottering. But when you get good instructions concise, all right, all right. I look at Canada, so it's like Christmas and this one's the if you haven't got to

smell that, that's like pure candy. Well you're candy. I don't even remember smelling that one because we liked, Oh you didn't. I'm like, whoa, I would remember that that one was that one was warming up. And and here's the thing too, I've had Grand Prix and it did not smell anything like that. So and I want to show you why it looks

like that. And it's funny. I didn't even I remember not buying the Grand Prix again because I was like underwhelmed by it, and I now this is, oh yeah, dude, and like it's it's it's the it's the minute that you can touch it. It it gets that like sheen to it. So as soon as you start messing with this stuff, it basically starts bursting those heads. But if you're not touching it at all, like how

I did that. I whipped that up a little bit last night and then put it back in the fridge and then came over here so that when it came back to orange orange turps. Almost that they've explained this to me, I'll have to get the information from it again. But it's a grandy candy or something like that. Definitely got some sweetness to it. It's very uh wow, man, the wish there you go, sir, thank you. If if we're all doing it, then after that, I'll have to get

Xeno full Ount death too, So that's why. But yeah, so we we do plan to launch the fum out here soon. Looks beautiful, man, we just really want. We're probably gonna do pre sale drops. That's something you're gonna see coming from us soon, where we'll be putting things up

where you can go purchase it before it gets in stores. So they'll be in limited supply really because we want to kind of isolate the particular customer at first from making making an uneducated purchase before they know exactly what's going on.

And like that's why I'm happy I could come on your guys' podcasts so we can kind of like start start talking about these things and like have those kind of discussions and like more people that can hear these things and more people get educated, the sooner that we can start introducing more of these products on like a regular But we do know that people want full melt in a good way, but they want good full melt well the kind of sewers want these unique

like different types of like almost like I would call it like like concentrate arts. You know, I don't know the right the kind of sewer brand. You know, you get the patellas, you get the full mels, the you know, different all these different type of things where I feel like when you the more and more you get into concentrates. The more and more you're

like, what's that? You know, what's exactly exactly and like, so that's the kind of thing we want to do, is we want to always just kind of introduce new things, be the education platform for like people who want to learn more about Rosin. So, like I always tell everyone hit me up on our Instagram. We always answer. We always always every single time, So like jusual pretty quick too, but no, and like so

yeah, we're excited. Like that's one thing we're coming out with. We're gonna start doing some other things, like we're testing out like jam texts and different Rosin texts like it, oh jam Rosin Jam. I've had some really like flavorful something that's where I used to get that like, oh that's really turpy because you could see the terps right, you know. But at the same time, it just depends on the hash. It is crazy. All right. I say, give it about ten seconds and we saw it.

Brother, all right, thank you. So people again, though, are you looking at a compete again with any competition draining? Because when we met you a big deb do we say the strain earlier? What you entered? What you want on I can't ever said that we actually have I know we have them separate here. So what we entered was u A. It was a cross, right, that's why it was. It was yeah, it

was a mix. So it was lou Bega and Sunday School, So it was we when we did the we had about twenty twenty five people out that for some more some of our followers and friends and uh basically had a taste testing to kind of yeah, you gonna maybe come out yeah, yeah, yeah, and it's just kind of like to see what the difference, Yeah, what the difference and like because we we we make this stuff and I see it every day and I'm biased, Like I can't enter what I'm what

I think because it's not always the best decisions. So like, and we found out there we were going to enter one thing where we felt, uh when after the results came in, it was the mixture and like it was it was because like the Sunday School gave it that nose, but the Loo just had it, just had that z turp and liked t Yeah it's crazy, dude, I used to not like because you used to Well, I

like the flavor. I love the flavor, but it gave me such a head high where I was like too much, too much going, So like for me, it took me a little bit, but yeah, Project Z brought me over. It's brought me over to the Z side. And like that one was a good conversation of like a run see and you know we were literally just talking about doing this like set up and yeah, and I'll say it burns slightly darker than the alien cookies cushments, but it's environment.

It's an environment. So like if you if you think about it, that was very very I was going to ask you in like thirty seconds because you can still taste I was like, that's that's good stuff. And that's my favorite Roson and hash when you get you can still taste it like thirty seconds. A minute after you're like, wow, holy shit, that was flat flavorful. You know you know those So which ones are the film mounts?

Yeah, so we haven't sent the Fall outside of these. So the first one, the first full out we are going to be launching, will be our new if you guys saw it, the pink purple fullmount oh no idea, Oh so I don't have any on me. We just sent it out for testing. So, oh, I didn't know I messaged you the purple stuff I lived. I was like, yeah, I was like, I

messaged someone about this, like it was you. Yeah. I was like no, because to me, it's like back in the day when it's purp you know, but they would drop the temp like it's definitely like kind of just the thing. But it's super cool and it's rare. It feels like, right, you just had to mention it was rare. Right, that doesn't happen a lot. Yeah, No, you don't see it often,

you know. There's a few people that I've seen have it, like tri Cone Tortoise, He's won a few awards with his uh I think it's on one O four uh z boof full Oult and it has a pink pinkness to it. And then there was Brian's Hiss, who I believe has a method of using anthos to kind of like add them back in. So this is what I was gonna ask. Is it a process or is it a strain? Is it actually a strain? Okay, So that's what I was.

That's what I was curious because like like back in the day, purpose some were true somewhere more like they would drop the tem So I'm like, can it is there some trick that people are doing that or did you literally find some magic strain that was just kind of strain and I feel it's actually pink? Yeah, simple dude. I was like, damn, I want to try it. It's cool because like I told them, I was like,

my god, it's and it's it's it's haste amazing. So like it's Mac and Gary and I'll let you guys know this will be a strain we're gonna have all the time. It's actually a single source. So uh big big canna. Close friend of mine, Jared, he is growing out of a small building in ed Moore, growing some fire guys. First thing, he's I guess some really cool genetics in there. But this Matt Gary that he has, it's insanely pink like on their actual like Instagram page when you look

at the buds, it's even more pink in person. And then like it's like magenta, like you know, like the color that is in your printer. Well that's what it does. It looks like almost like like a like a pink or purple, but it's still more purple on that side. Like

that's like but ah no, I literally said the same thing. I was like, I know, I don't know if it's going to make it taste more better, more better, but more no, I mean like I have pride with that more better, more better hash egg No, but for real, but for real. Sometimes that stuff that's there, I can see the hashtag trending. No, why do you like? Who know we're more better? That's hilarious. No, but shit out. Oh but I know, I know it's kind of just like a thing, right, I don't know,

it's just like a thing. It's purple. It's cool, but like I want to try and that rare stuff is very unique. So it's like when you can hone that in, that's cool. And to get that specific pheno and it does that, it's like, that's cool man. So that's cool. So yeah, and we we're gonna try to capture the same thing next time. This is gonna be straight. It's gonna be always around. He's gonna be growing in the building next to us for us, So it's

gonna be straight. We're gonna keep around for a while. As it's I like to describe the flavor of it like grapefruit. Thanksgiving dinner if that's the best, like super savory but has like grapefruit. Huh yeah. But yeah, so like it's the ninety through one nineteen first wash only first wash, not second washed, so first cycle, and like I said, we were we washed differently. Like I said, it's usually fifteen to twenty minutes. I'm not going to get in this time. Maybe next time. But we

watched, we watched it. We're more gentle. Yeah, we'd love to have you back and talk hash too, because we've thought about it, you know, you know, maybe bring a couple people to make hash Oh and I mean shout out to Trip Scientific. He's another license hashmaker like myself. That's a small, small operator. We're going to be doing that. Oh yeah, we talked about this before. But the hash to Table event, oh yeah yeah, so yeah, we're going to be We're hoping end of

March, but it might be postponed a little bit later. We're going to be doing a hash to Table event. So we're going to have a Michelin star chef come out, do a five course meal where we're going to have five different hashmakers. So we're going to feature two licensed every time, and then three traditional markets so right now it's going to be Whuna and Trip Scientific. We have Chlorus Flora. If you has ever heard the name, he's

amazing. He's won a few awards. Recently, he won a my favorite trophy ever, it's the it's a I think it was a pot look event and he got like a pizza guy. But it's like a pretty dope. It's pretty dope. And then we're also hoping to get a few more few more names coming through. I can't say who yet, but basically it's gonna be we're going to give the Michelin star chefs those five hashes. He's going

to go and prepare meals that are gonna pair well with it. You're gonna come out, You're going to pay a donation fee to us, and then we're gonna be able to first take care of the take care of the chef, and then also take care of the hash makers so that you guys get to go home with a jar of each one of these hashmakers. Hash. Yeah. So I'm like, oh man, I might have to make the drive. Yes, And the whole thing is we're we're not doing it to

benefit for ourselves. We're kind of doing this to create a space for it. It's gonna be small, so it's only about thirty people. So and it's supposed to be an area where we can get like people together in the industry, so that like minds can have a place where it's not the event. It's not the sponsorship event, it's it's the Hey, we get to have a fun night and talk to the same people in the same room in

an area where sometimes it's a little too chaotic. Yeah, I get that sounds but yeah, but I don't remember what we were talking about before that. Guys, real quick, where did the name Hudah come from? Oh? Man, Okay, so yeah, man, we didn't even ask that, So shout out, shout out, Mama Huna. So that's my mother's nickname. So let's see, years ago, my parents started dating and they

went to uh, Mexico before I was even born. They were in a bar and there was a bartender kept calling the drink that they were getting the honey, and the drink honah. So ever since that day, my dad's called my mom hunah instead of corner honey. And then as we grew up, we had like a little boat used to go on to like Cedar Point, and stuff and it was called Hona Times. She started baking company in the nineties and pat and a few rests in peace and then that whole story

of like her catching me and like doing all that. So I came back from the military and she was actually found out I was doing I was growing and doing all these things. And she was actually the first person to tell me, well, if you're going to do this, why don't you just actually take it seriously. So from that day on we kind of like did that, and we were thinking of like names and like what I could do, and like I had my old caregiver brand, and like I wanted to

stay close to home again. So you know, sometimes we need that nudge and sometimes that nudge really goes a long way. So yeah, Mama Huna, look where you are now that you guys actually got to meet her. She was the blonde lady who was standing right behind us at the apopp Oh really they gave the food we had, Yeah, but no and like and like Mamahuna, like yeah, and like everyone thinks a ton of but everyone

we thought everyone does, like and like you know, I did. It's just funny after like okay, like gave after was like hunaha, and he was trying to memorize it, and he was just like kept laughing, like we're doing there, but he's like, yeah, he's just trying to memory now. Sorry, guys, that was probably that's I thank you. Sorry, dude. I love this, just like the hand of like debs. I love it. But yeah, I had the idea to put the little

line about the you so everybody knew. But then I sat we were sitting there and we were all going back and forth, and I'm just like, you know what, I'm gonna leave it, and and it takes me back to wild and like I wanted to create a brand that wasn't that. I

wanted to create a brand that was a journey. So like and like I'll get into like how we were able to make that kind of journey and like what we just did yesterday the Live but I wanted, like I wanted you to feel like, man, I just completely forgot my train of thought there, dude, It's completely fine. It's bud. You're talking about Mama Huna and the journey of the brand logo. Oh oh yes, yes, yes, yes, thanks thanks thanks, And like so the reason for like not

putting the dash above. It is like I wanted people to like have a conversation about it. So like when you talk about her name, like you might you might know a Tuna. He might know it's he might think it's Hannah. So then when somebody meets they're like, oh, dude, I love Hana Hash And he's like, no, dude, Tuna, I met the owner. I'm at the employee. They're like, no, dude,

it's spelled Hannah Hash the owner. You just set her name a few times, and it's created like a conversational piece instead of just like a name that you purchase. Yeah, that's a that's actually really a positive way to spin it too, because to be honest, we had issues with people going calling us mechanic cast. Oh, mechanic casts. We're like, oh, yeah, I guess, but why is that my candic cast? M why canic cast? But we spelled am I because it's a Michigan right, It's exactly

right, exactly you know. And that that's all it was, is kind of the word I'm playing, but like it's something to connects to you,

to the brand and its roles them. And then I didn't even think about the marketing aspect so that's that's a really cool way to look at You gave me a whole new way to look at that mechanic ass and like so that ties into like everything we wanted, like somebody to get flashy packaging, have an amazing product that has info on it that gets some like excited and learning new things on top of it. We wanted to give the full round circle.

So like I was coming in and I wasn't seeing any of the customer activations, like things that made people feel like they're with you instead of just like purchasing an expensive product. So hold on, pass stand by for a commercial break to you by Sunday School, butter Sunday School. You're seventy through one nineteen micron selection for today. I know, so yeah, I like it. There you go. Now we're talking so the whole boll day,

I want to do it. I spent some time in Colorado and shut out a very successful company out there, also very small company, Olio hash So. Olio is one of like the more for brands in Colorado, And when I was out there, I was buying their products and they came with like these little dabbers. I thought it was awesome because like I was traveling, so like, that's what I mean, ye get away that shit dude I

had. I didn't have a dabber, and I was like, shit, I'm like looking around, I'm like, what am I going to get them? I'm off the plan meetings all day, I'm I'm in the parking lot of a hotel and I'm just like, man, I just want to get high at this point, right I can't, And like I saw this, I'm like, dude, this is awesome. So like when I came out, I wanted to take it to a next step further and I want to do something to like help like let the people who smoke our hash and our

community kind of be a part of this. So, like these were the first designs we did. We have one different design for ground Score and a different design for Huna. So I did the first ones. Going further, We're not going to do them ever again. It's going to be our customers. So during every four times a year, every during three months of those four times a year, we allow our customers and followers and community to go on to our page like share, follow, and gain entries through a social

media post. At the end of those three months, we then picked three winners. Yeah yeah, okay, yeah, and we just did this recently on our life and like, so we we have three mystery backs. We always throw amazing products into these. So the first time we did it, we just did this. The other day we gave away dave x goes. So they're similar to a puff go. Yeah, they're pretty dope. So yeah, I was entered and and like that is I love? Can we say it? Can we talk about it? Know? Yeah, so this

is funny. I was the pre spin so I could have he could have. So we we want to make sure things are running right and we do things right. I do the same thing. I do the same thing. So I'm not hating it's I just I think it's knew exactly what Groovy was was our was our test test spend. He was our test spend. Yeah, so oh my god, if I would have won three ride so yeah,

I get what do you feel? What are you feeling? We had the time last time, Groovy, So for that, I'm going to give you the gangspoo today We're not going to get you home get empty handed. I just like I like to no, dude, thank you wo and you know, and I'm happy to give it to you guys. Definitely. It's for both you guys, honestly, So like I heard me, So you guys, it's okay. It's okay because you know what, I'm just messed around. No, but it's been really fun. No, and I I

I joke only because like that's a really cool way to do things. We like to do that. And it's very fair when you're doing that role, you can just you click. It's it's fair, like you know, because sometimes you don't know why people winn. So like that's cool. No, I didn't, man, And and to double down right think they like to call me the White Opera David want you to look underneath your seat right now? Oh my goodness, he has nothing but no, no, that one's

for you. But so I figure you guys, you guys can share back and forth. He's gonna have a full out. You'll have you'll have the gangs taboo. So you guys can you know, dabble into both worlds. But but no and like so like so so back to it. So like yeah, so every every three months we have three winners. We do mystery bags like things like dabex goes uh product coupons, swag, even some samples

from some of our growers and stuff like that. And basically the best thing about it though, is is that our first place winner is the main thing. You get all the same things, but you get to come out and sess with us for a day. If it's possibly you know, I'm just throwing this in here on I'm on on a podcast someday, you know,

maybe with that with that person. But uh but uh but uh no. In in some way we bring them out, We sash with them, if it's in our lounge that we have or if it's in h that it's really cool lounge. Yeah, yeah, And basically we let them come up with that next dab or design. So we give them the opportunity to basically like come up with ninety percent of it. We give it the hounah, the honah, little flair, yeah, the little touch, and get our logo on there, get ours, get our social media, and give it a

little aesthetics. But we let them come up with the with the main idea for the next average so that basically you're not coming in the store feeling like you're just purchasing an expensive product. It's like every time you're come in. It's like you're part of something and eventually maybe you know, this year, next year, five years. We do it four times a year and there's three winners, so you never know, like that's twelve people years, that's

forty eight people in four years. But it's the opportunity to like kind of like, yeah, give it, give it to the people, you know, and like get that thing out there. You did actually get muted, so go ahead. Sorry, I didn't realize you got muted. I accidently hit my elbow. To do with my elbow, I was like, even I heard Dave in a while, is he not talking? And I hooked over. I'm so sorry. So I hope that one too. No,

you're good, good, No, but thank you. And that's cool man, And like it keeps your customers engaging in your social media and it's fun. You know, it's really fun to sash. We're all just dabbing, hanging out. I think you did a Graham dabs that was fun. You know, yes, I actually did too. We love streaming. Like if you don't haven't checked out the Waken Bake, you know, shameless plug, but nine am Eastern times, come join the Waken bake nine am, ten

am. We come and we just it's just fun to I know, it's fun to sash with like the community, right and you know we we we get you know, awesome brands, we get awesome people, awesome like caregivers, and it's just like this whole cool conversation, you know. And it's like we try to be like kind of like a fun just loving weed, you know area. You know, you got you guys. Are you guys are my Saturday mornings? Yeah? So no, no, literally I'm always

like, Okay, throw these guys on, let's do some work. That's awesome. So uh but no, no, And like that's the thing is like I'm a true believer and and like there's a bunch of hash brands and we got nothing against any of them. We want to work with all of them. We want to do collap things like like and like it's up.

It's like the different things that you do, the different way you wash, and the different thing that you provide your customer along with Eventstually we're going to be single source here soon, so we're going to have our own in house, green glass, greenhouse, living soil. I was gonna ask because you keep talking about caregivers stuff, and like it seems like have you been in the game around or have you ever do you grow personally yourself? So we're

a team. So we're a team I grew. I grew for many years. I mainly have always been in production, so washing and pressing my thing. But no Xavier on our team has been a huge part of our team. Honestly, we couldn't have been here without him. He's from Shelby, Michigan, so about an hour's south so like, but we're in Maynistee, so we're very far up in the northern Michigan. But basically I met him through seminars and stuff over the years. He's very knowledgeable, gentleman, very

works very well to the team. Uh and on top of it, he's dedicated man like he's dedicated to the same pash and he has towards hash as I do. He's brought some some his watch techniques in that have really changed some of the ways we've done things with chlorophyll and stuff. So but he's if he's a passionate as you or even half like I can imagine his passion. You know, we met him briefly. I bring your best dad. But like it seems like you are really passionate. That's like, well,

we'll come back again. I mean I would love to come back on sooner than later. I love talk. We can talk some hash. We can talk some process this time, because it's really great to learn about who know and everything. But like we can talk some hash process and I love talking about hash. So that's that's something we're definitely don with. Same with Xavier. We both love talking about processes and everything. So like you but but yeah, and once again like it's it's uh, we're small, so like

I can't do it really without my wife Sina, without Xavier. Give all your shoutouts. You know, my two axes both start with the letter acts. It's actually pretty crazy. Wow, Xavier, Xena right common something I thought about even think about it? Yeah, so U but xxx Oh wait, no, man, there's a lot of people who kind of helped along the way. Shout out, uh, shut out wild. You know they've

been wild, you tell shout out earlier, shout out resin heads. My close friend he's won a few awards with his genetics, very local to you guys as well. But me and him did a lot of our first operations together. He got me really heady into Rosin, this newer age Rosins. So like, other than that, man, like just shout out to all the girls we work with. We couldn't do it without them. Their quality of growth and cleanliness and willing to work with our very tedious harvest restrictions.

So you have a very specific when you go see these growths. I imagine you go check out the girls, you have a very specific guideline that if they don't hit that criteria, you're just like, yeah, we do, and we do test washes of everything. So and we also like to try to smoke the weed as well. And like it's also not like here's the thing too, is we're We're I'm humble. I I like working with humble people, so like that's cool. I character is a huge thing for me.

So like and like even the companies and vendors who work with to equipment we work with, like shout out low tempt like there's a reason now with that. Yeah, we interviewed him and like, actually we were a biscount right in a live press shout out LEVI shout out, shout out the people behind the scene, Matt and the Hunter and uh, very good. So I mean these guys, there's many different equipment companies you can go to. I personally felt they had the best customer service in the game. So like,

and that's a huge thing for me. Being able to communicate with someone as a huge thing. So like that goes the same way with their growers. Like you can have the biggest name in the world, but honestly, if it's not easy to work with you, and like we can't be friends and how you're going to do business, you can't communicate. And I'm not the type of guy it's like a once a month transaction, like I'm doing this for the rest of my life. So like people we like to work

with, I kind of like to have that same thing. So right, but I mean family vibes, I appreciate that, yes, yes, and like so I mean like new growers, let's tell you get a true investment though in the brands when that cohesiveness, when you kind of invest each other and there's like you know, helping each other build and know whatever way, So that's cool. It's a synergy man, Yes, entergy yeah literally, and like but yeah, like we're about to start working with a couple of

new growers Happy shout out, Happy Little TreeCo. So they're a little organic operation out of I've seen them somewhere. There a lot of organic beganic growers. Yeah, he does. He does a genetic prefer organic growers, I always. I mean, is that part of the guidelines? So no, it's not a part of the guideline or so there's a big thing that comes down with genetics. We don't like really running a lot of the same things. There is popular things that we want people to have the same thing.

We like to have different things all the time. I get you, Uh, most of the time, it's it's smaller. We like to I like people who aren't getting highlighted. And when we see quality that isn't getting that highlighted, we want to want to There's a lot of nobody knows about man like in this game. And unfortunately the marketing game kind of gets a lot of these people like, you know, they don't have giant marketing budgets.

You know, some of these brands can spend tens of thousands of dollars a month, Like it's nothing like unbranding, and it's just not fair because the people are like, oh, I'll try that. I've never seen it. And they're not even the ones who give a ship, you know, they're the ones who are just buying the billboards but not all and like it's like some of the smallest girls in the state shout out lost leaf. Man. If you guys ever had his flower, No I did. Didn't you say

that earlier? Dude chat like on the scene. Let's let's say so, so I watch you guys, it's probably already sold out that he's very small batch. His intrigue intre very small batch. But uh, you guys metal I think so. He was at he was at the Bringer Best Dab. He was walking around with us and uh, they're a booth up. Maybe I don't know we're talking about it. He did. He did the Olympics too, he was there, I think. But but if you guys haven't

tried his stuff, honestly, it's some amazing stuff. He's got nobody else, Yeah, really good stuff. That's the who the lou beg is. But I know, man, it's like, we we like working with people who have who like to have fun first thing. That's what we like to work with. A bout school. Those guys are just awesome. They're fucking really cool. They're always they're always talking you up, and they're always and they're always just looking to not turn it into a business, and more so

turn it into a conversation. Yeah, and like trying relationship, trying to try new things, and like with a new product that we're coming out with that I kind of briefly discussed with you guys that we feel that is gonna be a revolutionary thing in the in the cannabis industry, at least in Michigan where we know we're gonna be some of the first to do it and like

a more effective, consistent scale. But we have certain growers who are willing to work with us to kind of like are indeed these things and come up with these things. So like when we launch these things, like they're gonna be kind of like pre sale, so like we're gonna launch with specific stores and like yeah, you know, and we got these kind of exclusive drops, yes, right, yeah, kind of like an exclusive drop where like this is where you can get it, and then after you can get a

little bit, but it's like a limited type exactly. Yeah. Yeah, and that's kind of like how we're gonna We're not gonna launch who a head stash like that, but whuna headstashes? What we're about to launch here, and it's gonna be all two gram jars, but it's gonna be limited micro batch two gram pucks man that masally back to like legacy stuff, right two grams and like you know, and an aspect an aspect it should be right around that price and like so what we're with those ones, it's gonna be

a uh micro batch. So like with lastly, if we run five thousand grams of material, so we get less than one hundred and fifty grams. Oh yeah, I mean that's where you run, is the head stash. You got to charge, Like that's that's what it was, right, you're paying for the top shelf. It's because you're getting low and to be transparent, like yes, you're paying, and like we're not going to put something

in here just because we only ran a little bit. We're putting it in here because he's only got six hundred and forty square feet of canopy space, right, and it's him who sees these plants every day, and like he's putting the touch. It's the Genetics Senate. Also, it's our award winning

stuff. But at the same aspect, it's a it's a true I don't know how to say it, it's a true way to express a micro batch because you have to mark, you have to present it to the people who are going to appreciate it most, and I feel that they're The nice thing is we're going to launch it in multiple grades, so you're gonna be able to get it in our tier two and tier three. Yes, yes so,

but interesting. Yeah, I thowt Headsta you know Headstad had Sash because it's our first wash of it. So it's the first wash seventy through one nineteen specifically of just that. But it's also a very low yielder, so

in aspects that we're probably not going to bring these things around again. Like the Baiji that we ran for him, it's amazing and Flower and everybody loves is buys you, but it's it's an under it's like a two and a half percenter, so like it's hard for us to really watch And like with the Loo, it's like just at that point where we're gonna be able to keep it around and do it often. But the thing we found with is full Mouth is amazing from it. So that's amazing different. Yeah. So,

and it's the best full melt I've probably seen. And I've been hunting for full melt like this for a long time. Yeah, whenever we did earlier this stuff. Wow. Yeah, yeah, I'm excited for you guys, And like even like, I wonder how it looks now even after that time, you know, so I see how it's starting to come clear.

So wait until tomorrow and then you're open and be like whoa. If you want to preserve that and keep it like that, you can put it in the fridge of the freezer or let it let it come up a little warmer and then whip it really good and then collect it in one corner and then just let it set and then it'll eventually kind of get battery over time. Okay, yeah, wow, I appreciate. Yeah, you're doing it. Yeah, no, you do it, you do it's your question. Let's

do all right. So we asked every guest that comes on this funny question. So, yes, if you had a Ganja Genie pop up, say, as you're lighting your uh, your nail right there, Gonda Genie pops up, yeah, out and he created you to change anything within the cannabis industry. What would you, uh, in a second, what I what I would want to smoke or dab or get immediately, It's more like what so, there's a lot of things going on in this can industry, a lot of good, a lot of bad, right, and we there're still

not bad, a lot of things. That's still a lot of decriminalization. Whatever I feel it needs to change anything. It could be anything like it could it could be something like you know, people getting good full mount right. It could be something We've had things people say like you know rosin for all right, We've had people say, you know, decriminalization. Right. We've had a range, but you know, there's just a lot. So we just love to hear anything unique perspective. Two things, Oh that's okay.

Two wishes. Why he's his first wish? Two issues? Uh in the second and the second if they let me, you know, it's a pain a b. It's a two parter. It's one wish. It it's a so first one is both are based around well. First one is testing. So plate testing. Play testing is what we utilize in this state. It used to be a standardized way to test, but then they introduce plate testing. Think about it after a year of the licensed market opening. But

sorry, I keep moving off to the left. But so plate testing is what reason why we don't see a lot of good flower on the market. It's very inaccurate and it's what's causing you guys what Aspergillis is. Yeah, I've seen those test results. Yeah, so Aspergillis. I just want to

let you guys know, it's everywhere. So if you go in your kitchen right now, if you pull something out the dishwashing, you set on the counter for two seconds and then you go send it to a lab, it's going to have ten times more Aspergillis on it than the weed you smoke. Okay, so it's just okay, So it's it's a. It's A in high amounts and high high amounts, it's very bad and in long term exposure, it's very bad. But unfortunately, because of plate testing, it's very

easy to fail for Aspergillis. Honestly, if it weren't for certain things that I hate saying, but I'm going to just be I've been transparent that things are sprayed on plants in the industry that don't get tests for. But it helps passing tests because of that. It's why there's not good in a lot of good cannabis. So shout out to a lot of the organic growers. Yeah, you know a lot of them who keep it in fresh frozen, But damn Gail. And then the second one, we need to test for

remediation or we need to ban remediation in the state. The fact that we're allowed to. I always want to label it. At least I think I'm with you, I'm with you on the band, but I do It's like for me, I also understanding, you grow a huge crop and you book up. Now you're gonna lose all that money and you have to like close your doors because then if at least so does remediated crap, some people might buy it for really low and you don't make some money. But it's like

it's like just the people should know. Some people don't even know what it is. You know, we've talked about it and people are yeah, so so, and like I'm gonna change what I even said, because that's a way better way to approach it, because like we can't we can't win a war without winning some battles. So like with and and and I think there's a there's a store out there, I shout out Green Hippo where we are not in them currently, but I would love to work with you guys.

But they work with like unremediated companies and like they are huge, huge uh of activists and they go to all the meetings and try to propose for at least labeling of remediation, like, hey, this product has gone through a process of remediation because of A pesticides or B molds or see this and this and that, and like there are people who don't care. You know, we've been smoking cannabis. Some of us are smoking cannabis before breakway. Like

people will smoke whatever. Oh yeah, dude, And like people need to grow in a miracle growth. If you test miracle grow, it's going to contain mercury. And like so people people have been smoking this stuff and like and and and so. Really it's like the two biggest things that I think it's it's I want our state officials to be not to change laws, but to to be more open to hearing of reasons why. And I feel that there's more of a reason for I guess defensiveness because of how the laws have

been written prior then to openness of changing how things can go. And I think once once a lot of the first new members come into the CRA and into the state to are helping them out because I mean they are understaff guys. Like that's one thing I'll say. I mean, it's a new department. Like, it's a new department. Like so, but yeah, that's that's my biggest thing, is like really it's it's I would love to see some things that are really impeding the market currently for for things that are on

education. Yeah, and see, this is why we asked this question because there's so much you know what I mean, that's like even you like you can see as you start thinking about you're like, well, so that's that's that's why we love this question. That one that was great. Let the two answer slide. Those are two good ones. I do want to say, Ross, I appreciates you, uh coming out. Man, this was great. This was guys, very insightful, very educational, and I'm excited

for who know what you guys have coming out for this year. Sounds like collabse some new products, not new products new again, I guess you we got new products. We have vapes coming soon, so age I guess yeah, yeah, I mean you talked a little about a future anything else you didn't mentione because you were talking about full mo and saying you didn't coming out, we are switching from the pop back jars to the Miuron jars. We

feel the Miran is just overall standard. We we were going back to our roots, yes, yes, and then we're we're coming out with uh disposables. They're going to be the two vapes, so all glass tops. Yeah, and we're we're doing we're doing We're not doing a full spectrum on these, so it's going to be limited micron once again. It's gonna be seventy three nineteen, so very flavorful, very light color, so really yellow. I've been questioned that they're just lit twice. Yeah, so so but that

clean yeah yeah. So like and like those are going to be limited to like we're only launching fifteen hundred across the states, so like yeah, and like so Texas on the drop, Yeah, I have to like make it happen. I believe we're using a superhoof that we ran with the Peninsula Gardens. That was that one that smelled very good, that one twelve terpenes on that one that was dab that one too. I mean I mean definitely after Yeah, yeah, definitely because I take up a lot of times sometimes I

do a lot, but no, dude, I love it. But uh, you know then we also were also coming out that new product, so keep we'll definitely have to uh come on here and talk about it when I get closer to it, and we have like some of the things ready on it, but uh no, we're just excited. We're we're going to kind of cut up cut once we get to a certain mass stores and kind of just like support the retailers we're with to kind of like support the growth that

we have so we don't kind of overgrow everything. So U but yeah, we're gonna have our own single source coming here this year, hopefully by Midsummer, and then uh that's that's kind of where we're at. We're going to

be competing in a few things. Uh. We got invited to the Camp seven ten and he did get invite that I was going to ask because that was kind of I don't know if that's not a big cloud, but like the same crew I say in that world, you know, so someone I met and I saw that ground, so he got invited very good, so we'll be competing. He was very impressed with the LOO and then uh, we might be dabbling at the Michigan Gems and andoutics as well as a collegers

too. I haven't seen that's the west side of the state. Yeah, I've seen around. But we've also been talking about possibly doing our own kind of hash hash event because we feel that where where we feel this is going is that there's so many competitions kind of starting and there's no structure to how all these are going, and there's just like we feel there's a lot of monetization, monetization to these events when it should be based around kind of like

how sports are. So like we're we're kind of looking at is we want to kind of be like a league. We want to elect official or two in the state to pick judges and an unbiased decision. Those judges can't be you know, consultants or had worked with or like have biased opinions to the

to the entries, you know. So but like at the same time that you compete in a in a state, county, regional and then zoned strict so like that I see kind of just literally like how sport you build up like how you would back in that, Like I mean because I've did more sports in high school like that, but structured sports you kind of build your way up through a competition and it's kind of like you worked your way yeah,

you know, so I guess that's interesting. And like at the same point as like public public voting, so like it's it's it's in the front, so like it's being displayed as these things are being entered, like so that it can't be like it's not like right and like and there's all the

time, you know, and that's how do you avoid that? You know, it's it's it's not branding the material because that was my big thing when they would put the brand on, I'm like, come on, just like blind test it, yeah, and like thing with the same jars, you know, and and it's really just like we want it to be because there's there's coming more standardized. Yeah yeah, standardized, and like there's a lot there's a lot that's going bad with the name of a lot of these contests.

We don't want that to happen because it highlights i mean high times that issue happened to me because it seemed that's what happened. High Times a lot. You know, it had a great name. And I'm not saying they don't have a they have a fine shot out of High Times. They're fucking awesome. We'll come on. Without the High Times magazines, candidate wouldn't have been so obsessed with you know what I mean. It's not like I'm pating

on High Times. I just like the competition got so much more about how many bags that can sell, and like you know, and like after the pandemic kind of crushed it. I don't know. I again, yeah, I like the events. I love their events, and I love their magazine the content, but like just as far as like some of how the structure changed, I just didn't trust it because it was like this could easily be rigged. So it's a hard you know, And I'm with you. I

love the transparency. There's there's amazing there's amazing competitions out there. Ego Clash, smoking Jacket, Bring your Best Dad was great? Uh, every contest. Do I think there's something that can be improved? Yes? Are they being improved sometimes? And like that's where it's just like we just want we just want people to be open Okay, yeah, let's do this. Let's keep it risks. Yeah, yeah, so I love it. That's cool. So keep us evolved, you know what I mean, judges or streaming

or whatever. Keeps. Yeah, we were in. But any more questions I can ask you before I hop off? No, I really, I know that was majority of them and they honestly, we appreciate you. And I feel like I've learned so much about hash. I hope everyone did too. That's at home, you know, definitely check them out? Who know hash A N N A H s A s H wow, but I got it? Check out Instagram? Is that in the social media handle? And then yeah, who knows anything else? Do you want to say? No,

No, thanks for coming on that to get out here. No, it's okay, guys. I've been watching you guys a show for a while, so it's kind of fun to come on. No, and I definitely want to do more, so like, yeah, stuff, we'll be talking. But no, anyone who I forgot Honestly, guys like I are like, that's like, just shout out to anyone who I'm forgetting right now. Lots going on in life, wear many different hats, so but no, I appreciate you guys. It's been a lot of fun. Hey awesome,

Yeah, thank you. I'm excited to see what you guys got playing for US twenty twenty four and continue popping off. Not even a year in business and you guys his brands getting pretty big already. So thank yeah, and that's always good. We're here to advocate, educate, and inspire the next time you all boys,