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Biggest Illegal Grow Op Bust & Delta 8 use among Teens

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Drug Bust in Livonia MI, stated as the biggest illegal grow op
4 Dead Goats and 140 plant bust
Rats eating raw cannabis in New Orleans 
Delta 8 Thc Use among teens is on the rise.

Transcript

Yo, what's going on? Everybody? Welcome to a new episode of My Cannon Cast. I'm Canaday. Today's episode, Uh, we're going through some articles that happened with some police busts here in Michigan. We got rats from cannabis, right Surprise, more busts. I think we talked about it a couple of weeks ago too. There was a pretty big bust. They happened to Detroit. These two are outside of Detroit, rats are eating a ship ton of cannabis out in New Orleans and getting high. I was like,

that's pretty funny. And then also Delta eight within high school students and then becoming more popular. I guess there's a lot a lot of this, but that's gonna lead us to this whole other like topic because like they're just saying, we're just seeing hemp everywhere right now with like the THGA like hemp stuff or the hemp with the Delta eight. I just want to talk about this

whole like hemp whatever that's happening, and I searched here for it. And then also we might discuss hashbacks a little bit, because it's about four weeks. Four weeks out, I think less than about four weeks out, so looking forward to that as well too. So yeah, no review today, but we have some interesting articles going on, so let's uh, let's jump

into the first one. Ge we're going to kick it off here in Michigan and another interesting title, Police find four dead goats and one hundred and forty illegal marijuana plants. Yeah. I read this one and I was like, what the hell did he just send me? What does forty goats have to

do with anything? So it happened in Calhoun County, Michigan, so no, I know, he goes police found four dead goats during an investigation of animal welfare complaint, and then they discovered an illegal indoor marijuana girl while checking for other animals. Like I don't hmmm, So it's like they're they're clearly unrelated. Like I don't even know why they brought the goat thing up just

because they found four goats, Like I don't. It doesn't really say much about the goats, I mean, because I feel like it for clicks and people being like, because like when I read it, and my first thought was like, why did you bring up the goats? Well, because they say it's an animal welfare complaint that got the police there in the first place. Right, Oh, so I see, so the goats being dead or like what got them there for the plant grow and they fin the illegal grow.

It's not that many plants compared to what you see to be to be honest, forty plans. I mean it's not it's not not yeah, I mean it's not like that's not like a couple plants, yeah know, I mean that's the still that's still a solid amount of plants, especially when you

don't know how to side double a caregiven too. Yeah. And that's the thing when I was of the states, like they I mean, if even if half those were just like the seedlings or just little guys like sure maybe you know little girls they but right, it's like yeah, yeah, right, but you know whatever. But my whole point is that I don't know that makes sense, horrible, horrible, but it's the goats died. What happened well clearly that they're like doing something wrong with the animals, not taking

care of them. You know, I don't know what. You probably don't even want their budded. They don't really discuss it. That's why when you say me, I'm like, why did they even bring it up, like just because it got them there, And I'm like, all right, I guess probably just because it was another bust of marijuana. That's yeah. No, no, I'm saying, why were the goats even in the tidal head? They could have just been like while by looking for this animal thing where

four goats were also fun, they could just be mentioned that. It doesn't matter. It just seems silly. It seems like clickbait. That's all of course it is. People killed animals are like, we're going to raige both people people who love wi people who don't love animals. Ah. Anyways, still fascinating because like what you said, one hundred and forty plants is really

relative, right, It's either a lot or not that much. Well, we're going into this next article, which would just happen, I believe last week Michigan cops busts one of the largest illegal we grow operations of the date. This result was Michigan as well, thousand marijuana plants. So what I'm talking now now, now now it's illegal, that's what I'm talking about.

In the best part, now, the best part, they had twenty five hundred pounds of psilocybin mushroom bars bars, Well, that means each one of those bars was probably on a quarter, like an eighth at least an aim they have twenty five hundred pounds of damn. I'm sorry, I'm just thinking about how much that really is. And then seven hundred pounds in marijuana.

That's a big illegal girl compared to one hundred and forty. Time. If we're gonna compare them like one hundred percent, well then even even the when we talked about couple weeks ago in Detroit still had like was it five hundred and six or the head abserd amount of plants as well too, not one hundred and forty. So like every time I hear a bus, it's always like five hundred or more, right, So that that the goat they just

caught my eye. I think it was the clickbait of no No, I know, and I get that, but when you read this one, this one's pretty epic. Both of these are in Michigan. So just to show you that like this was actually this is like real close to us as it was in a commercial building in Lavonia. There's a couple of commercial buildings. I believe it happened on March seventh and it was something interesting. They said that weed, the flower alone valued millions a dollar a million dollars seven hundred

pounds. I mean it's a decent amount of money. Yeah, I mean twelve hundred fifteen makes a bout of sense. And if it's black market, it could be who knows cheaper if it was, you know, I think they might be rounding up on some of this, but they're just trying to show you that. It's like it's a lot. Yeah, then you got got cops talk about here the black market and Michigan's a huge problem. It's

the booming illegal marketplace. And then meanwhile, Kish's unit, which is one of the guys in the article corde Ago been busy, having seized over ten thousand illegal grown marijuana plants and last month alone it's a lot. That's crazy. That's a lot of plants. Well, and then that's the big thing. I mean, this is what I want to talk about. This is

what this would call or when I read it, he goes. He also pointed to a connection between these operations and human trafficking, with foreign nationals often found in substandard conditions during the Lavonia raids. Foreig nationals were indeed found we have a lot of foreign nationals that are connected to these illegal grow ups. Kish said, some from China, some South America or Mexico. People who

are trafficked here to produce or pro curb black market marijuana. Many don't speak English and are forced to process flower or tend to plants underliving terrible conditions.

Yeah, that's something I haven't heard of. I've seen in movies and stuff, and well, I mean human trafficking is like pretty common, man, and like here at the end of the day, like I've actually, you know, we've heard about things and grows being from like you know, from China, people shipping people in and just making money, and like, you know, we have the agriculture to do so, and the laws over there are so so so heavy that it makes sense that they're going to bring it

here. Right, it is legal. It's a big state. I mean, we love her, we hear. I just thought, but I just thought that caught my eye because it's like, damn that shit, because they're coming here, they're growing the bus, they're probably shipping it back and then making money off of it here as well too. Well, then think about it though, like if they get people here like they might just deport them

back, like you know what I mean. So for them, there's like no charge if they can sneak the people in which they already are doing with human trapping. So it's like, you know, they're just basically making these people like slaves and it's messed up. But like you know, and that's the thing about these large illegal growls, these are the ones that are messed

up. These are the ones that when you get the hell out of our Yeah you're coming from out not even our country, you're coming in here and you're growing like that, and then you're giving caregivers a bad rat, you know, because like this isn't it if you don't read all the way down the article as well as people Most people are title readers, you know what I mean. That's why we break these articles down because a lot of people just read the titles. Remember I was misinformed on the first one when I

just read what they Why, Well, then you read the article. It's like a paragraph and a half long. It wasn't even like a long article.

But but see, you probably just would have read most of us Michigan cops bust won the largest illegal we grow operations today you wouldn't have talked about everything else side of the article, and that that's where I was like, damn, that's interesting because they're coming in to Michigan growing the weed affecting you because that's you're right, that's the true that you should be kicking out.

Well, no, those are the people given truly giving the what you just said, like I think best is the bad name to the system because these are like the things that are like when you're growing on this level six thousand plans seven, you had silas sci fis. That's not just growing weed, man, that's trapping. That is just straight up And that's just the fact

that these people are also like being trafficked in slaves. Like this is such a messed up topic, but like this happens, Like that's why there's so many documentaries about this stuff. And when we're at this look at like when we're at the strip, you see the people marching up and down with the signs. I'm talking about human trafficking and how regular it is, and not

only in sex work but also in any illegal you know operation. So it's this is just and I don't even want to say trapping because a lot of times trapping is usually just someone hustling selling some shit. This is straight up just like trafficking. Yeah, trafficking. Yeah, I mean twenty five hundred pounds of that's like a lot of a lot of psilicide marks. I'm like, damn, I right, take one? What hey, I don't. I don't think you're understanding you know what, I forget it. I feel

like I could take one. Here you go, I've been trying past me. If you you want to hit that, I'll let you hit your dads. Since its puff code broke, he ain't doing puff this guy. He's got the new nails set up. It's like a full time dabber nowadays, which is kind of funny because he's got a little dab session over here. You probably can't see it on the side, but he's got a little turp slurper now. Yeah's fancy. Yeah, the waken Bake. You don't tune

into the Waking Bake. You missed out nine am every Saturday. Damn stags got a little listening little drawers and stuff and keep my stuff baldering here and yeah, the nails inside the alcohol right now, but they can see it. It's on the white shot but I just thought that was Those are two articles I wanted to bring up on Michigan raids. Obviously big distinctive between the two, but both are happened to. I want to jump into this. Uh yeah, no, no, it's not bad. The police urge driver

safety as Michigan Wana marijuana consumption lounges expand. With that being said, they're talking about the new one, which is the a it was it Alien Alien Cannabis company out in Kalamazoo. Which is funny because as soon as I read this title, I knew they were directly talking about the one that opened up in Kalamazoo, because I believe the other two they're like in smaller towns if I'm not mistaken, right, So you're just not not as much traffic.

Kalama Zoos a little bigger. Plus it's uh, you have college out there, and you have a lot of people living out in that area as well too. Obviously it'll be twenty one up still, but I'm glad to see them, and I think I think law enforcement cracks me up because like, you have probably one thousand bars in that little Kalamazoo city. Well that's what I was. Okay, this is what I was trying to wait for, is I want to wait that they're urging safety blah blah blah blah blah.

And I get that this is just a way to bring up that what's happening, the fact that there is a consumption lounge and control their own rhetoric, right Like, I get it that it's just this is just the way they're doing the clickbait rate, because all they're trying to tell you is, hey, there's a consumption lollednge and pretty much trying to say like their cops are out there watching, which we know because look at that consumption Long John,

Illinois. There was a cop outside the parking lot just like post it up chilling and it too. Yeah, but dude, like we dude, the United States has the last call. If cops just waited outside of a bar, I guarantee half those people would blow over point oh eight. But they don't. They're trapping the cannabis people because oh why don't they go up to the bars Because it's because it's because because people are not enough cops to get

all the people at a bar when it closes. My whole point is that it's just that It's kind of like, how is one entrapment but the other one isn't? That's all, you know what I mean? Because I feel like people would say, oh, you can't wait out bars because that's entrapment. You're basically waiting to set them up. And you know, but at the end time, because you don't have a reason to pull them over,

besides that, you're just assuming they're drunk. Right, you need to reason to pull someone over, right, usually right, So like that's probably the reason. But like when they're saying you urge it, it's like, I don't understand what there's like we literally have last call that's literally like, hey, drink and drive if I don't know. Man, My whole point I bring this up is because it's like if they want to make that decision, people are gonna make that decision. You know, you don't need to just

make some threatening statement like we get it. Oh dude, it's it's silly. I agree, and the it's just saying, uh, pretty much the police officer goes with his recommendations having a designated driver, I don't see a reason for taking a risk, which I get you. You're saying, fine, man, but I get this article is made for like the noobs. But if they if they literally posted cops. They don't say that they're doing this, but if they post cops right outside there, that'd be ridiculous because

like all the bars think. Well, I was using that as an example. No, I know, I'm saying we saw it. We did see it. So that's why I hope they're not gonna do That's what I was trying to say. Oops, because this is what the cannabis industry needs to make it more real. In my opinion, like alcohol, you have these places where you're able to go consume, you're able to hang out with friends, toke, maybe meet people up, you know, because like you can go to a bar, you go on a date at a bar, you

go have a drink, you meet up family like this. This is something that expands it to make it legal. So everyone's just like, Okay, this is what this is what we're used to, this is what we like. And I to some degree I understand this comes from a lack of understanding because it's like the police are urging this to say, you know, like so clearly what it is is they're being like, hey, you know, you better watch out because those drugs are wild. It's like, man,

you don't even know what you're saying. That's kind of so when I read this article, it just sounds, you know, kind of like this article sounds sort of like ignorant, you know what I mean. It's just lacking, like the whole like the whole story. That's still it is though, you know, within a lot of cops. Though still this day it goes legal that they're still they're still trying to because they can't make as much money off of it. In my opinion, I don't know. I just think

it's stupid. It's bang yeah, nice bang banger rang in a while. Yeah. Now I'm just heavy because I I should I should have als, but I was the last week, man, I was. I finally finally cropped. So I just feel so good I have some of my bud is that Lemon shout out to Old School Organics and Emerald Fire. You guys helped me get through not having some and they're our partners. So yeah, school but old schools bringing back the retro stuff. If you dig those old school

strains, you know dig new strains. Got both, love them both. If you're out in Colmon Michigan or near mid Michigan, near Central go over to Emoral Fire. They'll take care of you. Shout out, tell him, tell ask for brand if he's around, he's the man. You didn't check out our episode with them. That was great talking about the people in the Michigan market who are blacklists, who are not paying bills and stuff, and you know, it's actually funny. It's actually funny. You bring that

up something on LinkedIn. It was on lunch and let's scroll on. I see a guy comment or make us make a post and he goes, was it something along the lines like cannabis companies not paying bills? And I chucked because I I hope we just talked about this, and this guy's not in Michigan. He's obviously on a different state. And the comments as people are like, yeah, it happens quite often. And then I ended up dropping our sticks. I was like, dude, that happens a lot in Michigan.

We actually just had people on our podcast and I dropped the link like, hey, this is what's happening here in Michigan if you want to check it out. And I thought that was interesting because you brought that up and it's like it's not just happening here. Well, when I'm realizing too after talking about it makes sense that people businesses has probably been doing this forever.

So this is not like a cannabis thing. I think people have been doing this forever knowing that it's going to cost people more in lawyers and it will cost them to pay back. And that's just so fucking bullyish man. And we're seeing it more than cannabis because that's where like, that's not doing good business. That's like being an asshole, in my opinion, shitty business.

Some people might consider that good business in their mind, meaning like well that was your fault, But I think that's just I think that's scummy, scummy man. Just sell a quality product. I think it's yeah, exactly, sell a quality product or good out or sell your value product. Be honest with you. So value sells here in America, everything sells. It just got to be at the right price. That's what I've learned. Shoot,

we're seeing like I mean, I don't know if you check. It was like two episodes ago, but we talked about the gar people picking garbage and smoking weed or people taking weed out of trash and then reselling it. It's like people are doing. Didn't we talk about that article too, No, we did. We talked about that everything's got a value. Man, well not even that. I mean you can two year old weed will still go

for like ten dollars an eighth because it's weed. You know, you got you got bulk rosin, which is some good okay rosin, good rosin for solid ros I know what you're trying to say. It's for twenty dollars. It's solid rosen it is. Is it the high quality? Highest quality? It depends. But I had some I I really like some of them.

Yes, some of them were thought that's what I said, hater mess, probably better way to burn it. Yeah, I fifty well used to say that, saying all the time, if you received war dogs, but go check it out. It's hilarious. Yeah, you'll know the scene. Yeah, well there's this part, Oh my god, He's he's like, hey, are we gonna make it? Are we gonna die? He's we don't die like me and Dave just laugh sar. But then Dave started taking to everything, even if it wasn't fifty vide. What you know, what's funny

about that? I got I got a couple of my buddies still say it to this day because I said it that often. That's no joke. That's you said it a lot. You you you, you destroyed it for me. I loved it, and I was like, I hate this. I stopped saying it too. Man, I haven't said that a while. I should bring it back. Please don't. All right, let's get all right, we're out of Michigan. Now. That was that's some Michigan article stuff. Like I said, check out last week's with Emerald, our partner with

Brandon Cake started to blacklist. Oh my god, I'm blanking blacklist of m I Cannabis group on Facebook. I wanted to make sure I worded correctly. So everyone you want to check it out blacklist of m I Cannabis all separate words on Facebook and join it. If anyone hasn't, If you're a company and you haven't got your bills paid, go report it and actually, you know, have the invot, have the quote or have whatever. You must have documentation proof, right, I'm trying to get to because if you don't,

it's not getting posted. And there's also a list of companies that are on there. And if you want to hear that that's fascinating, something like proof you actually read some of them out during the waken Bake. I read Saturday, I read h I there. We we talked about them on the

episode though. It was just fascinating because it taught me so much and opened on my eyes so much to how some of these companies do business and how why we need decriminalization, because without being able to take someone to court and have lawyers that have your back, I don't even know how some of these people would get their money back, being like you know, if you you can take them to court, they're gonna be like something like yeah, but

I don't even know if you could sue them for some of these things. That's a lot of It's great is why we need a little bit more defined lines for these businesses. I'm not saying you know, you know it needs it just hmm. Well, then when decriminalization gets safe banking, which helps the businesses, tendful too, right. I always round, I always go

right to what I want, and that's the criminization. Although there's you know, people talks of D schedule still going on, which not for D schedule, No, Yeah, I meant more or less just like because of no, I'm for decriminalization. I was just saying in general, more talks were seeing it, Uh yeah, d schedule coming up, which is like still wait in here from the DA it's yeah, yeah, And I just don't know if that would solve the issue of being people being able to actually be

like, hey, that was fucked up. Let me take you a court about this. You know, I don't even know. I don't think it. I don't think it's alves a lot. So yeah, yeah, it's off schedule one. We all know it should be off schedule. We want to decriminalize, like oh yeah, man, when half the states are pretty

much telling you there's medical purpose, but the other states are legal. We have thirty something no state's medical I was just saying, when we got to that point, yeah, since then, it hasn't made logical events, Like if anything passed, then it's been like what are you talking about? Literally half your sy have like not no laws that are still very strict, like Indiana. It's like, what do you do? I don't know, man,

I just don't I don't get it. I don't understand it because to me, and like I hate to sound like my dad, like this economy, right, but like, seriously, man, in this economy, it's like, why don't we let more goods here? Like we're such a consumer nation. Not to get too much on a rant here, but we're a consumer nation here. We don't have a lot of goods that we sell outward like or just produce here, right, So why not have another thing that

we're ahead on? Cannabis? We grow the best, Yeah, decriminalize it so we can ship it. Well. Who knows, maybe we'll be sending out the best packs to these countries or in other countries because we'll be ahead of it, right, because like for me, it's like I don't know if the country he doesn't bring a lot of money in. Yeah, everything's made in China, right, because we consume more than we make, right. And that's all I was trying to say, is like why would we

not let a booming market come here and we're crushing it? Like why would we not? I don't understand. Yeah, ship all that organs and it comes from year old hate and you're and year and I'm sorry, you know, old propaganda and old hate and racism, and it's just like its all just go away, all that if we decriminalize the plant, we can finally start to heal from all the bullshit, not necessarily me, but all the people who've been wrong. I should say, the people can start to heal.

So facts good point there, grooving. Yeah, not a rant too much, but it's just it's just not you're laying do good business, sell good product. What's the problem here? But anyways, my whole point wasn't trying to get out of Michigan now. And yeah, Dave talk about your rats because this shit was too funny. Dave was like so pumped to talk about this. Yeah, So I was just looking. It's not an article on marijuana movement. The quote caught my eye. Rats are eating our marijuana.

New Orleans, sup. New Orleans police superintendent tell city council, adding that they're all high. I'm like, what, who says? Who fucking says that the rats are? Who gives a ship? Bro? Like, the rats are all high? How much? What are you talking about? Like that? You're not like burning up because obviously it's the police station,

right, so they're not legal or nothing. It's like you'll just say some dumb shit, man, Like, what was the point of even saying that like they're when they like you said, they're probably just eating their bud that's at the place. Yeah, they're literally just going through. I mean you're probably storing too much weed in your walls and your stuff probably is old. The evidence room. Yeah, well, first off, like to me, it's like, isn't that the building code issue? Like shouldn't you get that

fixed? It should be like they're all high? What do you mean they're all high if they're doing cocaine, Like maybe we're gonna have some dead rats, but they're hitting into the rats. But like, I feel like mushrooms. I feel like this cop doesn't really understand what being high feels like, because like, what are these rats doing just like sitting in circles? I mean, if they are, you could catch them pretty easy. It's like watching the Rat TV. What the fuck are they doing? You know?

That's it's just it's a stupid steam. It just shows you that again, it's just such a stupid statement, like come on, man, you're like you lead people like who bust people on this? You should know sort of what it's like. I'm honestly all for all these cops trying these drugs. At least wants an orientation or whatever, just being like, hey, now you know, like they should. It's actually a good I don't know if they should just do drugs. Man at least be able to identify it.

And I guess I don't know scale all these cops drugs. I don't think they need it. It's just funny that they're just eating I mean because truthfully, though, like you said, what are they doing, they're not. They're just eating the weed like it's not lit unless they're eating like edibles with the weed, showing you the lack of knowledge because they're saying something that doesn't make sense, especially when I don't even know if they haven't end of the

indo annoid system. You know, I'm saying, I don't even know if they have it, like and it doesn't be it does until a decarbox car. Oh my god, joined I can't. I know what I'm trying to but the word are not coming out. Man, I just can't say it. I found so dumb, just like tired and stuttering and yeah, you know what I mean. AnyWho, Yeah, so it's not even psychoactive un

till you smoke it. Yeah, box, thank you. But he you know, it'd be interesting though if there was like edibles and concentrate edibles for rats. Yeah, das for rats, not dabs because they still have to light it up. But like what if there was fucking like edibles they were even they're even brownies that all right, well, then this might then maybe. But in the article that's they're talking about row cannabis, I'm just saying, what if they did. You never know what they're confiscating there. Mhm.

I just to be honest, another interesting article, man, there's some interesting things happen with cannabis. Yeah, but some silly statements being said. Like just I think what you've pointed out is that there is still a big lacking of info. Like but like I just oh, yeah, because it's just this is just a silly article really just talking about it's really just like, hey, you need to probably like get an exterminator in there, and

that's by what you need to do. But at the end of the day, it's just like it's just silly that people are still thinking like this for weed. Like guys, like let's all do research, Like we should do some research on anything, you know, if we want to just sit there and you know, talk about we should do some rease cool cool chat. Also, you know what's interesting too, is the President's at the State of the Union. Someone brought it up in the waken Bay about yeah, about

prisoners should be out and no one should be in jail for cannabis. Keep saying that people still in jail, I don't care if their first second time of Fundah, let's talk more do right. Yeah, We're like yeah, yeah, yeah, just do something about it. Then it's like, if

anyone's gonna do something, it's probably you. Man. That's why I'm bringing it up because it's like it goes it goes to the decriminalization in what we were just talking about before talking about the rats, right, And I was thinking about why we were talking about the rats is I would like to see something actually happen. I'm curious if anything is gonna happen this year with the election upcoming, but it's gonna be a big topic that's gonna talked about again.

So the probably bring up safe banking too, within it, probably bring empty criminalizing it, descheduling it, all this stuff, and hopefully something happens with this this year. And I'm curious if it would be Biden or if Trump gets elected and does something, it'll be interesting because whoever does it, whatever party does it, is going to get credibility later down the line. Right Democrats have wanted it, but they're like stalling right now it does make

any sense. Republicans are slowly like, oh, there's money, so I just want to talk. I had to bring that out real quick. No, no, no, no, that's what you're packing. What'd you pack me? You want to dab? Yeah? Pack me? Or you want to hit this pen? Yeah, I'll let me my puffer go on, you're a puff go because I want to still rip a dab here. We'll take a dab together heres. If you're out there, listen to the podcast.

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Yeah yeah, well it's really really why I liked it a lot is just because there's vegas allegedly. Hey, no kidding, there's nothing illegal while traveling with that dude, especially because you just buy a new chamber. Yeah that's nice. I should buy one. Yes, have too. They are nice. I you know, I love my puff Go. I like taking dabs.

I'm not really that piggy anymore, like I love them all. Well, the analog dabs I like because it slows me down because I can just chill, like if I'm watching a movie into my desk, like down, take a nice big dabb or right, It's more of like a calming process. The puff goes like I want to ab now, I mean like, and then this pen is more like I want to dab. Eventually you just like pack it in there, you start in your pocket and eventually, so how many more hits you get out of that? Now? See? The

thing is, I don't know for me. I've been just cleaning it because I don't pack a lot in the here, gotcha, but I just couldn't. It was like a weird name of No. I like it though, No, so either way, you know, just a new little device. But I'll be honest, man, I never used to like these pens because of the whole coil thing. But the ceramic stuff is not bad. I'll let you know as I get to use it more and more, Like this is my first week with it. Let's you know, we'll see. I

like it so far though, definitely a fan. It's a little dab container thing. Nice. Nice, Okay, we're just zone it out. But yeah, let's get to this last topic that we wanted to talk about in HEMP. So this last article that Dave showed me the article heading again, we're talking grab hitting you in the face with article headings today. You know what I'm saying. In my opinion anyway, Over one in ten high school seniors report using Delta eight, saying parents high school series. I didn't hear

what you said, yeah high school seniors? Yeah? Yeah, So I mean I get it, man, No, no one wants to see their you know obviously understand no one wants to see their kids doing drugs. I get it, but at the end of the day, well, yeah, it was same thing with alcohol, but I don't know, Like, Okay, my whole point is they know. Okay, let's say this. No

one wants their kids doing things they don't understand. Right, That's a good way to say it, because at the end, they the parents want to be able to get advice and make sure that they're not doing anything bad. So Delta eight is new, and I just imagine that they're just worried. Right. One in ten kids seniors report heal to eight. I honestly don't think that's that big of a deal because I feel like way more kids smoked

weed in high school when I was a kid. So for me, I'm like, because I don't know, I don't know everything about Delta and Delta nine or the different The main is the science different. The main difference is the hemp and camus drive. Right, I'm saying I don't know that, like the chemistry difference, Right, it's probably very slight. But then they

it does not hit you the same because I've smoked them both. You know, adult Delta eights puless than zero point three percent THHD because that got passed when the farm boat got passed in twenty eighteen. And so to me, it's like kids are doing weed light. Yeah, that's what they call it. They call it diet weed or diet. And again, I know it's not the best way to look at it, but I'm like also thinking,

like, is just give them weed? But right? But weed is like for adults, right, But I mean, isn't this kind of like a good way for them to get introduced to it rather than so I'm like, I'm stuck to you in a rock and a hard place, cause I understand,

I get that alcohol. I'm not saying they should do it. I'm just saying kids are gonna do shit that is wrong for them because that's what we all did, whether it's breaking, crossing the street when we were supposed to all the way up until like having alcohol in high school, because most

people tried alcohol high school. Not saying everyone. There's always those alliers, always someone who's like, no, groovy, alcohol sucks and I get it, but oh yeah, for sure, I feel like a lot of people experiment it because of pure pressure, you know, whether it be cigarettes or alcohol or weed or whatever. I didn't even try weed high school, but

just some type of pressure. Right, So I think, like I feel like on the retro scale of all those like cigarettes and del d eight are relatively low because I think alcohol is like and like hard drugs, and then weeds like more towards the light end. Anyways, but I even think this isn't even heavy as a week. It like, I'm kind of looking at this article. It wasn't a big deal as well. It was better than cigarettes technically too, because it's not. It just depends on where the delta

hates coming from, though I don't know. I don't know about that. I guess I'm not surprised none of this this article, because you can buy it anywhere. You can buy a convenience stores, gas station. Well, that's why they're getting it. That's what high school kids are getting it, because some high school's got a fake ide though you know what I mean,

I am, we love it, you know what I mean. Like there's just like someone is some kids got that plug, or someone's got an older brother yea, and they get it or some or honestly they just go to some smoke shop where they sell it to him. That's how I used. There's always some shady guy who just doesn't care because money's money, right, There's always something that happens often. Yeah, how did we all get cigarettes? I didn't know, old brother, like I I had to wait.

Like cigarettes I got from people or had people buy them for me. I knew one place that would sell me cigarettes before I was eighteen. I went there, you know what I mean, Like there was like that's all I found it, Like it was like, yeah, I don't know. I like I see, I said, I understand that like Delta eight is under misunderstood, but like on the retrospective, all the things that a kid could be doing, like I understand the probably shouldn't be doing anything, but everyone's

gonna argue VAP is huge within high school. So like this, I agree. I just think that I guess when I read when you showed me the articles like end like like you know what I mean, Like what like kids are gonna be kids, dude. I'm not saying kids should be out there doing hard drugs. I know the kids shouldn't be do even doing drugs, like wait till you're eighteen, then do the drugs. But we know they're gonna try and we know they're gonna experiment, so at least this isn't like

horrible. I mean, it's not fucking spice or what was that other ship I'm blinking on what it's called Salvio, like that was legal, that should was will mess you up. I still see what I mean. I can still picture that trip. So he went to another place. It's scared. Oh man, that's hilarious. Well because that's like this like one hundred acts, five hundred acts like we were doing Sally and our parents are like,

hey, stop doing that, you know. I like at the end of they just like talk to your kids and understand what it is, and I think they honestly will stay away. They're oh, it's not even give me that high like stupid, you know what I mean, Just tell it's like it's not even like I I I don't know. I'm again, I feel like someone's gonna bash me in the comments. Just be like, you're not a parent, you don't understanding, and you're right, I don't understand.

I just think rolativa, what could kids could be getting into nowadays, especially with the Internet, and like, I don't know, it's like at I'm not saying kids kids. But if this is something like a high school senior, you're talking about a seventeen year old kid. You bring up about point and here's here's something they always talk about. We probably the higher thhd's not developed for the brain. It is one of those bad uh things. Uh

propaganda. Thank you you bring this point three percent. That's not too bad for them, you know what I'm saying. That's a lot less than like even Rags, because Rags was still If anything, you get senior high school seniors into this stuff, like maybe they'll avoid all the hard drugs. Maybe they're like, no, I'm good with my ham like maybe that's all they want. Like shit, I don't even understand what the big deal. But

I prefer weed though, so I'm just say I love it. But I remember being in high school being so drunk that I fell asleep in my buddy's porch, throwing up off the porch because I tried moonshinea at a high school party. I was seventeen. Like, if I would have eaten some of these, I probably would have giggled and ate more and fell asleep. Dude, I had a I didn't messed up one time too. I drank so much smear. Noof this is what I'm saying. It could be way worse.

I was in the snow pukes. This article will be one in one in ten high school seniors have a fake ID. That would have been like, oh shit, these kids are out here doing They're out here just bar hopping. I guess like that would have been bad. But like that's what I guess. What I'm trying to say is like I feel like they're trying to make it seem more so it is just because they're highlighting with high school

kids, and you know, they're trying to get parents wild up. But it's like, honestly, if parents sat down for a second, was like, wait, you're saying it's even as strong as even seniors, because you don't even think seniors already seventeen train eighteen, right, how but you half of those kids are smoking cigarettes, they're vaping excuse me, I'm sorry, vaping the high baping, well most of them. I mean I turned eighteen right after we graduated. Yeah that makes sense, so half, you know,

that's crazy. It's not even that big of a number in mind mind, I don't know. Yeah, one in ten, what it's like ten percent. It's not even a beg. I don't know. I read the whole article and I was just like, okay, whoop. I just saw like I saw like four or five other articles posting on this one thing. So I was like, oh, this thing is about to be pretty much heavy on the news because it's just because it's let them feel like they're getting high. My god, it's not even do anything. No, it's like

when you know, I'm not saying they should do it. Could they drink two energy drinks? Yourenna be higher? Fut it's different, well going up, I don't know. I don't know. I just compared to what I was doing, and I was drinking and smoking cigarettes, so like that was that good. Either I was eating edibles and it's so nasty, man,

just relatively, I feel like these kids are healthier than we were. Sorry, if you smoked cigarettes and you're listening, I mean IM for five plus years smoked here in there in high school and a little bit out but new Port shoulders in the box. I loved smoking. Listen, guys, don't we always go with the guests. And I can't even pretend I get like I like smoking. I used to love hookah, right, that's it's all. It's like I'm just trying to say. It's like it's all just different,

right, the effects that gives me. Ship Man, we used to go hookah at eighteen seventeen seventeen. I again, dude, that's what I'm saying, compared to what I was doing smoking trade filderless tobacco to the dome and we were drinking. Like yeah, in mind, That's why I said. I understand, Like I said, I understand. The article is trying to say that, hey, kids are doing drugs and they shouldn't. I get that. But at the end of day, it's like relative relative relative.

They're not doing cocaine like relax, it's diet weed diet, like people be tripping sometimes. But this is my whole thing about hemp in general. And like now you're get that THCA sprayed hemp, which is like what that shit's probably worse, Like I don't know this whole takeover with hemp, but just still trying to get people high off hemp is like this loophole shit is

why. It's like another reason why we need district commis like we just need to be have its own little area we just cannabis needs its own thing. He needs to be its own thing. You know, I don't know. I don't even really see. People want to say Delta eight, you know, is just like weed, and it's you know, it's similar obviously, but it's I don't know. I don't I've yeah, I try. I got into weed right before hamp But if I just think if hemp gets if

people get in the hemp, it's just like this cousin of cannabis. Like it's like I don't whatever, teach their own if they want to smoke an herb and not get the psychoactive effect as heavy and you want to smoke diet weed, it's just like diet so to drink it, Like I don't want to drink diet so. But yeah, right, like yeah, so it's just fascinating, But I don't like the whole idea of trying to basically call

it gets it. It's gonna get you as high as weed, like man, just let be weavy weed, Let hampy hamp and let two to one be two to one, right, like we had that ship. It was unique. I still can't get that turpine ever again out of my brain like that or you know, such a unique turp whatever that was the flavor on

that whatever something unique. Yeah, I donut yet ship for anyways. You know, I just I I guess it's just fascinating because you're seeing like like when you saw that TC flower or this Delta one ten, cause you're just they're trying to make it like weed, but it's not. We just let it be its own thing, like I know what they're related, but sort of you know they are. But TSC gets too late. Delta does not days like Lane that I'm not Delta, Dave no Delta. I don't like

that. I don't like that anything about. I gave one the number eight, but I'm not. We're off topic now, alight, No, but no, that was no let's wrap it up, man, Yeah no, come on, come join us Saturday morning on our nine am wakem Bake Live. Get to join the community. We're live with YouTube, Facebook, I g LinkedIn, I think even Twitch. I was like confused, was like, yeah for streaming and stuff. Yeah, no, we love to appreciate

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