Blake Brewer: [00:00:00] This is true for those of us with young kids, but also if you have adult children, you might be listening to this and, and thinking, oh shoot, man, maybe I messed up. Or maybe it's sometimes easy to feel shame. Truth is, none of us have done it right and we've all messed up, but it, it's never [00:00:15] too late. I think some of the things we feel shame, um, feel bad about.
It's not actually as bad as we. Think it is. Um, and sometimes people will say, man, I feel so bad about this one thing. And then they go ask their kids and they're like, I don't even remember that.[00:00:30]
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Jeb Graham: welcome to Metcalf Money Moments podcast. My name is Jeb Graham. I've got co-hosts Eric Wymore and Ethan Hutchison on, and we have a very special guest today, uh, named Blake [00:01:15] Brewer. Uh, so how are you guys all doing? Yeah,
Eric Wymore: pretty good. Doing well. Glad to be here.
Jeb Graham: Yeah. So, um, so Blake, uh, is, owns a company called, or a nonprofit called The Legacy Letter.
Um, and I had [00:01:30] the privilege, uh, a few weeks back of going to see, uh, one of his presentations. And he's got a very, very powerful story. And, uh, this is one that we thought we've just now recently, Metcalf Partners has decided to partner with Blake. Uh, on the [00:01:45] Legacy letter because he's got a really powerful story that he can tell.
Two financial advisors and, and, and clients of ours, uh, that can, that can, uh, hopefully utilize this thing. Uh, you know, and, and we always talk about Eric and Ethan and I were talking about yesterday. Um, [00:02:00] in our business, you know, we kinda have twofold, right? We're working with clients, so we're doing the numeric aspect of people's financial plans.
You know, how much money do you have, when are you retiring? All that sort of stuff. But there's a whole nother kind of emotional side. Uh, to our business with, with [00:02:15] clients that, uh, and families that are, you know, have kids, have grandkids that are wanting to pass down money, sometimes wanting to pass down wisdom sometimes.
And I think, uh, Blake, you know, just talking to you and your story. Um, I think maybe we can just kind of start on, you know, [00:02:30] what is the legacy letter? What motivated you to do it and, and kind of what's the mission?
Blake Brewer: Yeah. Well thanks for having me on today and partnering with us on this mission. We're on a mission to help a million people write at least one well-written, impactful, lasting legacy letter.
[00:02:45] Never in a million years that I think I would be on this mission to help people do this. Um, but when I was 19 years old, um, I got it. So I was a freshman at the University of Arkansas. Go hogs nice. And I got a call from my mom and she said, Blake, we're gonna take a [00:03:00] family vacation to Hawaii. And I said, heck yeah, let's go.
Uh, and so it was, um, a few months later we boarded the plane and the whole family's going. And man, I was so excited. First day, there we go. Uh, so a place called Hama [00:03:15] Bay. And so everybody's on the beach except for me and my dad. And so it's just me and him out in the water and. To be honest, there was nowhere else in the world I wanted to be than right there in that moment.
It was, you know, I was really fortunate. I had a really good dad. Um, he was not [00:03:30] perfect, um, but he was still my hero. And so, um, kind of a cool thing about my dad, uh, is so he was a business guy, but um, long before that he was a football player. So I know y'all were, y'all are chiefs fans up there, but my dad was drafted by the [00:03:45] Falcons.
They're in the NFC, they're in the NFC, so we don't hate 'em. Right. Which, which I, I'm not, I'm not a Falcons fan either. I will pull over the chiefs door of the Falcons. But my dad's main claim to fame is that he was Terry Bradshaw's tied in at Louisiana Tech. Nice. And so they were best friends [00:04:00] and roommates.
Um, wow. My dad, um, my dad was very humble, so he never told anyone about that. Um, but I told everybody, he was like, my claim to fame growing up. Um, but, uh, we're out there in the water and [00:04:15] we just kept going further and further out. And we got in, in a really, um, uh, bad part called, uh, witches brew. And, uh, the water was really treacherous.
My dad and I got separated. I'm trying to look for him. I can't find him anywhere. I, eventually [00:04:30] I see him, I could tell that he was struggling. Um, I swim over there as, as quickly as I can. By the time I reached him, my dad was underneath the water. I. And he was, um, unconscious. And so I dove down. I wrapped my arms around my dad.
I brought him [00:04:45] back up to the surface and began to swim with him to the shore as quickly as I could. But it wasn't too long into where I was like, man, there's no way I'm gonna make it. And in that moment, a nearby snorkel showed up and began to help me get my dad to the [00:05:00] shore. And then the lifeguard showed up, they brought him the rest of the way in, and they started doing CPR.
And I'm standing there next to my dad. And I felt completely helpless. And I'm like, I, I did the only thing I knew to do, I just cried out to God, [00:05:15] God, would you please save my dad's life? And I really thought that at any moment my dad was gonna come too. Um, but he never did. And so my dad ended up drowning that day, and it went from one of the best days of my life to the [00:05:30] worst in just a matter of minutes, I'm sitting there next to my dad's body, like, what the heck just happened?
And began to ask myself some questions. How are we gonna make it without my dad? How am I gonna make it without him? [00:05:45] And so fast forward a couple hours. Um, now we're back in the condo. I just called my dad's parents, who were absolutely devastated, called his work, called our church, called some family friends.
I'm the oldest son, so it was on me. My mom was in no condition to make these calls. We're [00:06:00] just all in shock. I go to the back bedroom. And I'm sitting there on the edge of the bed and, um, my mom appears in the doorway and says, Blake, I found something in your dad's briefcase, something that I know he was gonna give you on this trip.[00:06:15]
And she walks across the room and she hands me this letter from my dad. And I began to read that letter. And guys, it was, I couldn't think of a better thing for me to get in that moment. Um. I felt so [00:06:30] loved, like, do not tell me that my dad did not love me in the midst of his busy schedule with everything going on, um, he put it down on paper.
And so, uh, I can't imagine my life, um, without this letter in the coming [00:06:45] days. Um, in the coming months and weeks, I've, I never felt so much pain in my life and I was, as I was grieving the loss of my dad and really. There's a lot of ways my life could have gone looking back. Um, there's some [00:07:00] stories and some narratives that we're starting to form as we all do about our life and different tragedies and different things that happened.
And I could have had some stories that could have left me bitter at the world, um, bitter at God, a victim, um, needing to [00:07:15] run to, to alcohol or drugs or whatever it might be, to try to escape the pain that I was feeling. And it was, to be honest, it was the exact opposite that happened. Um, I found my purpose in life, um, and I found hope, hope that I was gonna make [00:07:30] it.
Uh, and so, um, and I even had some professional counselors like, tell me, Blake, you have grieved this in a very healthy way compared to most people. And I'm like, yeah, it's, it's only 'cause of my dad's letter. Um, and the [00:07:45] darkest mo moment of my life, man, my dad was there for me. Like, he gave me what I needed.
Jeb Graham: That's an amazing, I mean. Hmm. The timing of that just in general is, is amazing, right? That that was the, that was when, uh, he was gonna give you the [00:08:00] letter on that trip. And, um, and so, you know, when you talk about grieving it in a healthy way, so you kind of made yourself a mission, right, of like, this is something that completely turned a situation from.[00:08:15]
It was, it's obviously a terrible situation, but it turned it from. I'm gonna go into a dark place to now. I'm gonna go on a mission and, um, you know, maybe talk about that because I, I know when you, when I was watching you, uh, you know, speak a, a few [00:08:30] weeks ago, just the momentum that you have behind this thing, and I, I, I remember just looking around the room.
And it was like, there, there, everybody's was just so focused on what you were saying and you could just tell that everybody in the room also was thinking [00:08:45] about their loved ones. If this would've happened to them, you know, what would you want your kid to know, your child, to know, your, your grandchild, whatever it is.
And so maybe talk a little bit about the mission.
Blake Brewer: No. Yeah. So. So that was over 20 years [00:09:00] ago, um, that I got that letter from my dad and, and that he died. And so it wasn't until five years ago though, um, when now I'm a dad and I'm like, man, I wanna be a good dad here. And, uh, I wanna live for my legacy and I wanna speak truth into my [00:09:15] children's life.
I want to help them be confident and successful and be resilient. All the things that we want to want as a parent. And I see what's going on in the world and some of the, I'll say competition for my voice in their life. And it just kind of hit me like, I gotta write 'em a [00:09:30] letter. Like I gotta get these things into their heart.
Um, and that's what my dad did for me. Uh, and so it was really through the process of writing this letter, I hadn't even crossed my mind yet. Like, Hey, we gotta help other people do this. But it was through that process that it dawned on me and I was like, [00:09:45] wait. Uh, like I see the impact this letter had on my life and now, 'cause when I finished this letter, it felt unbelievable to have this done.
And it was just like an incredible process that made me think about what I wanted to be true of my family, help me know my children on a deeper level. And [00:10:00] there was just a piece that came with having this letter done and then it hit me. It was like, okay, we gotta help more people get a letter like this.
We gotta help more people write it. Uh, and so that's where our mission really started. Yep. And, uh, so you can imagine the day that I told my wife, [00:10:15] like, Hey, this is what I'm, I'm giving my life to, and, uh, I'm gonna help people write a And she's looking at me like, you're telling me you're gonna provide for our family and our kids by helping people write a letter?
And I was like, yeah. And, um, number [00:10:30] one, I, I believe that God was in it. And I was like, we're about to find out if he's in it. And, uh, and. What you experienced that day where people were like, man, locked in, like, oh yes. Thinking about their family. Okay, I get it. Man, that's for the last five years, I've, [00:10:45] I've been able and had the privilege to speak to, um, hundreds and probably thousands of audiences now.
Um, being able to share that and even got to be on the Today Show and, and the Huck be like, like, turns out there's a lot of people out there that love their kids and love their families, and they want to [00:11:00] make sure that there's nothing left unsaid. No, this is how I feel about you. Um, and a lot of people think about, man, I wish I'd gotten a letter like this from my mom or from my dad.
Um, and so. We've been guiding people. We created a process to help people write the letter. [00:11:15] Um, 'cause I believe everyone has a letter in their heart. Um, we gotta get that letter outta your heart, to your mind onto a piece of paper, and then ultimately into your loved one's, um, life. And so. Um, a lot of people have written a letter before.
Um, I would say most people I've met actually have [00:11:30] not written a letter, but some people have, and then a lot of people have written a letter and it's, um, I would say it's not as complete as what a legacy letter has. Um, all the, all the elements in it. Um, so the introduction section, the apology section that I love you, I'm proud of you, [00:11:45] I believe in you, special memories, the advice, um, and then the closing paragraph.
And we really try to help people write it in a way that it can be received. Because I tell people like, Hey, you're about to write some amazing stuff here. But if you've got stuff blocking that, like there's a wall [00:12:00] between you and them, well just, this just happens between you and your children and your loved ones.
And so we gotta break down those walls. And so that's why that apology section, uh, is so important. Um,
Jeb Graham: I remember walking through and I thought, I thought you did a really good job of a organizing it. 'cause I do [00:12:15] think that's a challenge for people. Like, if you're gonna write a letter like that, trying to organize your thoughts, trying to figure out what to say.
Get it down. It's, it's hard. And I felt like you did a great job of taking you someone through the process of number one, what's really important to [00:12:30] be in there? Uh, you know, what, what are the important sections, uh, of the letter. And then also really taking each one of those sections and focusing on what you're gonna say in that section.
'cause I feel like if I was gonna write that without guidance, I would just think about the, the letter as a [00:12:45] whole as. And I feel like when you break it down into those pieces, it just certainly makes it a little bit easier for people.
Blake Brewer: Well, yeah, and it's like a couple years ago we took a family trip out west and went to a national park.
And it's, and we had a guide [00:13:00] that took us on some of the trails and it's like, man, you can go to a national park on your own and you can experience some of the beauty. But when you get a guide that takes you, it's like, Hey, if you looked over there and they give you the history and they show you that, I look at that mountain peak and look at that, it's like, oh wow.
And so I, [00:13:15] that's all I see myself as just a guide. Mm-hmm. And so I'm guiding you through the process. 'cause I remember one of what I was like when I was looking at the blank sheet of paper, like. Like, what the heck am I gonna write here? Yeah. And so really I'm just trying to guide and then, um, as I'm guiding people are, [00:13:30] are writing and they, you know, they can take a number of different ways, but there's some things that we for sure wanna make sure in that are in this letter.
Yep.
Jeb Graham: And
Blake Brewer: I
Jeb Graham: know, uh, like for you, uh, obviously you received it after your father had passed away. There's, you know, [00:13:45] any guidance on. When, or you know, the timing of giving the letter. 'cause a lot of people may wanna do it in their lifetime, not have it there, uh, for later or whatever. So what's kind of the deal there?
Blake Brewer: Yeah, I, I encourage people to give this letter [00:14:00] as soon as possible. Um, I just say, you know, you brought up the fact my dad was gonna gimme that letter, that way he knew that his 19-year-old son needed those words in his life. And the thing is, I did, and, um, I just remind people, I think we inherently, we know this, like how powerful our [00:14:15] words are in our children's life.
Uh, and so our words have the power to, to change their life. And so we wanna make sure that these words are, are there. And I've talked to too many people that have said, man, I like this [00:14:30] one. Uh, guy. He wrote this legacy letter to his adult children. I. Um, three sons, uh, an an adult daughter. He gave it to him on Christmas morning, like pretty cool Christmas gift.
And they gave, he put 'em in a, uh, some boxes and put some family [00:14:45] heirlooms in each one. His adult sons like loved reading, how, how much their dad loved him, how proud he was of him. But then as his daughter, 31 years old, young moms, she reads the letter, she goes home night that night and she calls back. Um, she gets, [00:15:00] dad had gone to bed, so she gets mom.
And she says, mom, this is the best Christmas I've ever had in my life. And mom goes, well, we love host. You know, having everybody here and hosting everybody. She goes, no, mom. It was dad's letter. Um, [00:15:15] I did not know how much dad really loved me. She goes, dad, I just thought he loved his, my brothers more than me.
Because he is always hunting with them and fishing with them and going to sports games, going to chiefs games. They're from Missouri. [00:15:30] And, uh. And she goes, but now I see how much dad really loves this has brought closure into my life. And I talked to her dad and I said, man, did you have any idea that your daughter was having those thoughts?
And he said, man, I had no idea, right, that she was having those thoughts. He said, the truth [00:15:45] is we spent twice as much fun than her as we did the boys. Um, but the truth is, and it honestly, it devastated him to think that, oh my gosh, like she didn't know, but. It's been two years now and their relationship is better than it's ever been, and he's so glad he wrote the letter.
[00:16:00] And the truth is, is we're all telling ourselves a story about how much we love our loved ones, and they're telling themselves a story about how much you love them. And there's just no way This thing is matching up perfectly. And so this legacy letter's about getting the story right, making, leaving nothing to doubt, no, this is how I feel [00:16:15] about you.
Eric Wymore: Well, there's always something about putting, you know, from your brain to the pen to the paper. Yeah. Um, to get, get stuff out, you know, get the words out, get what you want. And I, I'm, you know, as you've gone through kind of your process and you've got the apology section, then you got [00:16:30] kind of the things that you're proud of or thankful for.
What's the, what's the, what was the third
Blake Brewer: section that you usually walk them through? So there's an apology that I love you, love you. And so really help 'em understand the depth of your love form. Like my kids, there's no way that they understand the depth of [00:16:45] my love forms. Um, but the more they understand that, the better they're gonna be.
And then there's, I'm proud of you, not for what you've done, but for who you are. We live in a performance based society, and so I'm be, you know, we got my kids in sports right now. I may I, and I'm really [00:17:00] trying to help 'em, you know, be the best athlete that they can be. But I'm at risk and we all are. Of, um, making them think that my affirmation, I'm proud of them for, for what they've done.
And man, we are setting people up when they do that to, [00:17:15] to be afraid of failure. 'cause their per identity is tied so much to their performance. And it's like, no, no, I, it's, you know, I'm, I'm proud of you for your effort, for how you treat people, those types of things. Not for scoring another goal. [00:17:30] I think
Jeb Graham: that's super important in this day and age.
And like, you can even say that for our generation too. You know, it was like, and I think if you think about when you were a kid, you thought people, a lot of people, a lot of kids think that people judge them or, or like [00:17:45] them based on their performance in certain things. And I think that differentiation there.
Is super important, especially when it's coming from a parent, you know?
Blake Brewer: Yeah. And let me say, this is true for those of us with young kids, but also if you have, um, adult children, [00:18:00] you might be to listen to this and, and thinking, oh shoot, man, maybe I messed up. Or maybe it's sometimes easy to feel shame because man, we haven't done it right.
Truth is none of us have done it right and we've all messed up. Um, but it, it's never. Too late, uh, number one. [00:18:15] And also I'll say, I think some of the things we feel shame, um, feel bad about. It's not actually as bad as we think it is. Um, and sometimes people will say, man, I feel so bad about this one thing.
And then they go ask their kids and they're like, I don't even remember that. [00:18:30] So, you know, it's, it is, it's never too late to write this legacy letter. Yeah. So,
Jeb Graham: so can we talk real quick about our, our partnership with you as Metcalf Partners? You know. Uh, a lot of our clients watch the podcast through, um, you know, that we'll send them [00:18:45] out via email.
And so I know we, we've now partnered with the legacy letter and that gives our, our clients the opportunity to go through that process, you know, with, with your organization to, to write these letters. So can we talk a little bit about
Blake Brewer: Yeah. I am so [00:19:00] grateful for the people that have come, like you all have come alongside us.
Like we've helped tens of thousands of people equipped 'em to write this letter. And it's only because of great people like you that have come alongside us. And so, um, everything that you saw that day live, we [00:19:15] have it recorded like a, an online course, a MA called the Legacy Letter Masterclass. And so everybody listening today has access to the Legacy Letter Masterclass, um, for free.
Um, because of y'all. And so, uh, once they sign in and you can get 'em [00:19:30] the landing page and the coupon code, uh, and they can start walking through section by section, um, of me guiding them through writing their legacy letter. And a lot of people sit there, sometimes they'll do it. It's all at once. Um, it takes about, [00:19:45] uh, an hour and a half to listen to all the videos and go through them.
Some, sometimes people break it up and they do it over several weeks. Um, but as I'm talking, you're writing and, uh, and you'll be thinking of things that you wouldn't have thought of on your own. Something will come to your mind. I say, Hey, write it [00:20:00] down. You don't wanna forget it.
Jeb Graham: Nice. I think that's a huge benefit, uh, for sure.
For our, for, you know, for our clients. I'm gonna, I have a confession. I, I went to that, I can't remember when I saw you. I think it might have been November. It was, and I still haven't written my legacy letter. And [00:20:15] I, I, I sat down and I, I started on it and I was like, I'm gonna try to get this done for Christmas.
And, um, you know, I think what you said earlier is the time to do it is, is right now because you never know. And, um, so I've, I've now got [00:20:30] new motivation and I'm excited to get this thing, this thing done. But you, you know what's funny is, as I've written it because of your workshop and how effective that was.
I have it all written down. Everything kind of spilled out that day and it was great. Now it's just, just reorganizing it right [00:20:45] in into that letter.
Blake Brewer: So, so good for you. And that's what I tell people. So take a lot of good notes. Number one, this will help you now that you're going to coming back and finishing it up.
Um, but if something were to happen to you and they come find those notes, like they [00:21:00] can piece it together and they'll be like, I mean they will cherish, um, what you've written just as the notes. And I do tell people just to. Um, just have the proper expectations with this letter. Like, like Jeb, you might give this letter [00:21:15] and out of the gate, um, they, they might be able to communicate their appreciation for this letter, but chances are they're probably not.
Yeah. And that doesn't mean that what you've done is in vain. Um, there, for one, there will be a [00:21:30] day that they cherish it for sure. And that's the day they, you die. Um, because they know that nothing else is coming. But also, as soon as you get this letter and these words into their life, the words start working in their life and influencing decisions [00:21:45] that they're making and building their confidence.
And so even though they can't maybe verbally appre communicate it, um, the letter's working. Yeah. Do you have any
Jeb Graham: age that you think it's the most effective, you know, to give to a kid? Because I know obviously a 10 year old's gonna [00:22:00] take and absorb that letter way different than a. 20-year-old or a 17-year-old,
Blake Brewer: right?
Yeah. I've, I got a guy who just gave it to his 10-year-old and then, uh, he's like, oh, she's kinda like, oh, okay, cool. And he's, this guy's a good dad. So, I mean, to be honest, like. [00:22:15] If, if he has not been in her life for 10 years, then all of a sudden he wrote this letter. She might have like broken out in tears, I don't know.
But, um, several months go by and she was starting to butt heads with his wife, you know, how a daughter and a mom can do. And so they had to [00:22:30] discipline her and send her up to her room. Well, she comes back down, uh, a little bit later and her attitude has completely changed. And they're like, man, what happened to her?
Like, she's being nice and sweet. Well, then that night they, you know, as he, as he's putting her to bed, she says, [00:22:45] daddy, you know, I came up here to my room when I was in trouble and I looked over and I saw that letter that you wrote me. And I decided I need to read that again. And I realized that I just was not treating mommy the way I need to treat her.
And, and his letter in that moment may have hit her at the, [00:23:00] at the right time.
Jeb Graham: Yeah.
Blake Brewer: Um, and so to answer your question, uh, you know, I, I read my letter to my daughter when she was four. Um, there was a guy la uh, a couple months ago in Kansas City, actually [00:23:15] 99 years old. Hm. And he wrote the letter to his kids in the sixties.
He's like, man, I, there's some things I gotta get off my chest and I know they need this. And I think he felt like he was getting close to the end. Mm-hmm. At 99. Yeah. And so, but he did it and [00:23:30] it wasn't easy for him to do it. Like it's not an easy letter to write, like the idea of writing a letter. Oh, that's easy.
A letter. No, this is like. This was the hardest letter you'll ever write. Like, like it's, it can be, it can, like there's a reason you haven't finished yet, Jeb. Like, life's going on, things are busy. Like it's an [00:23:45] emotional thing to do. Mm-hmm. But it's so worth it. Yep. Got it. And we gotta do it. And there's so much peace too that comes with, with it as well.
Having finished. I can't wait for you to experience that, Jeb. And the other thing is
Jeb Graham: too, you can also, you can always refresh a letter, right? So meaning if you do, if you do it one [00:24:00] before. Yeah. Then you can write 'em another one when they're 15 and, and that sort of thing. That because, because that changes and Well, yeah.
Yeah.
Blake Brewer: I would not use the word refresh. I would say write another one. Yep. And so I, it's like looking at it, um, like when you write it this year, you're [00:24:15] documenting in 2025, this is how I felt about you. Um, and this is my advice to, I go back and read the advice I gave to my kids a few years ago and I'm like, dang, that's some good advice.
Like, I need that advice today. Um, and so I put some memories in there [00:24:30] and so then, and I've written them several letters now and so now I'll write 'em another one in 2025 and, um, we'll always be able to go back and look, Hey, this is, this is how I felt about you in 2025. That's awesome.
Eric Wymore: No, that's great. My kids are two and four, so I might, might wait a little bit, but.[00:24:45]
Blake Brewer: Yeah. Well, you can wait to give it, but here's my, yeah, but I would still encourage you to write it. Yeah. I, and I just say this 'cause I, so our fourth child is six months old. This the moment I felt, or we learned that he was in the womb. I started on the letter. [00:25:00] Cool. Um, and then he was born and I've, and then I've finished it up in the hospital.
And the reason why is I, he has not promised to have me tomorrow. I know this more than anyone 'cause of my dad. And I'm like, we gotta get something. 'cause for the rest of his life, if something were to happen, he's gonna wonder, okay, what did my dad think about me? [00:25:15]
Jeb Graham: Right.
Blake Brewer: Um, 'cause we all do, it's just like in our nature to wonder like what our parents thought about us and it matters.
Yeah. It matters what they think about us and it matters what we think they think about us. Yeah, definitely.
Jeb Graham: Well, cool. This has been awesome Blake, and I'm excited. I'm super, super [00:25:30] excited. I know we're all excited to partner with you, uh, going forward here and. Um, it's obviously very fresh. It's the very beginning of the partnership and, and we'll be rolling some stuff out, uh, for our clients as well.
And, um, you know, it's been a lot of fun and, uh, you know, I'm, [00:25:45] I'm not gonna become an Atlanta Falcons fan just because of this. However, uh, I'm glad that you don't hate us 'cause we're Chiefs fans. So
Blake Brewer: I'm actually a Saints fan, number one. Okay. I'm down here in Tulsa, so I do pull for the Chiefs as well. And, uh.
My kids are pulling [00:26:00] for the Chiefs. I like the saints. You can't hate the saints. They're, they're just
Jeb Graham: kind of, yeah, it's hard. Well guys, thanks a lot and, uh, this is Metcalf Money Moments Podcast and signing off.
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