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Meta-Cast

Bob Galen & Josh Andersonwww.meta-cast.com
Bob Galen and Josh Anderson use their decades of coaching experience to power your organization's need for agility and scale. If our 200+ episodes don't have what you need, ask us a question and we'll help you out!
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Episodes

How to Use AI Without Losing Yourself

This episode isn’t another AI hype session — it’s a wake-up call. Josh and Bob dig into the growing trend of professionals outsourcing their craft to AI tools, whether it’s writing code, managing products, or even “leading” through automation. The conversation gets real as Josh shares his own experiment of building a full product through AI (and what it cost him in confidence and skill). This is not an anti-AI rant. It’s a rallying cry to stay grounded in human intelligence — your experience, ju...

Oct 20, 202537 minSeason 2Ep. 96

Anxiety Isn’t The Enemy — it’s The Signal

This week, Josh and Bob take on one of leadership’s most under-discussed realities: anxiety . Leading is hard enough. Leading while anxious? That’s another level. In this raw and personal episode, they unpack what anxiety looks like in real leaders — not as something to suppress or “manage,” but as something to understand, even befriend. They share personal stories about how anxiety has shaped their decisions, moments they’ve fumbled through tough conversations (including a very human “first tim...

Oct 13, 202527 minSeason 2Ep. 95

Self-Care for Leaders Who Never Stop

In this episode, Josh and Bob take a reflective detour from their usual leadership banter. They challenge each other with spontaneous “When was the last time…” questions—raw, unscripted, and deeply human. From vulnerability and ethical courage to the power of self-care and connection, this episode models what it looks like when two seasoned leaders drop the masks and just talk . You’ll hear stories about asking for help, putting your foot in your mouth, saving “baby trees,” and rediscovering wha...

Oct 06, 202540 minSeason 2Ep. 94

Trusting Your Gut: The Vanishing Skill of Modern Leadership

In this episode, Josh and Bob dive into the uncomfortable but powerful role of intuition in leadership. Data-driven decision-making has become the default, but what happens when the data runs out—or worse, when it misleads you? Both share personal stories of times they ignored their gut and paid the price, and times when trusting that inner signal made all the difference. This isn’t about rejecting data. It’s about recognizing intuition as another form of input—one that leaders often suppress ou...

Sep 29, 202524 minSeason 2Ep. 93

The Final Three Habits That Define Real Leadership

In this episode, Josh and Bob wrap up their exploration of Stephen Covey’s 7 Habits of Highly Effective People by tackling the final three habits: Seek First to Understand, Then to Be Understood , Synergize , and Sharpen the Saw . They unpack what these really mean for leaders today. From the trap of talking too much and forgetting to listen, to why “playing Legos” with people never works, to the absolute necessity of investing in your own growth—this is a conversation full of practical insights...

Sep 22, 202523 minSeason 2Ep. 92

How Great Leaders Create Win-Win Outcomes

In Part 2 of their series on Stephen Covey’s 7 Habits of Highly Effective People , Josh Anderson and Bob Galen dive into “Put First Things First” and “Think Win-Win.” Learn how modern leaders can prioritize with courage, create clarity, and build true win-win relationships. Stay Connected and Informed with Our Newsletters Josh Anderson's "Leadership Lighthouse" Dive deeper into the world of Agile leadership and management with Josh Anderson's "Leadership Lighthouse." This bi-weekly newsletter of...

Sep 15, 202533 minSeason 2Ep. 91

What Covey’s 7 Habits Teach Us About Modern Leadership (Part 1 of 4)

We’re kicking off a brand-new series revisiting Stephen Covey’s 7 Habits of Highly Effective People — through the lens of modern leadership. In this episode, Josh and Bob unpack the first two habits: Be Proactive – Don’t wait for permission. Great leaders anticipate, act, and build ahead of the curve. From hiring talent before you need it to proactively managing your own growth, proactivity isn’t about flailing — it’s about intentional, forward-looking leadership. Begin with the End in Mind – Le...

Sep 08, 202528 minSeason 2Ep. 90

The New Leader’s Roadmap

Josh and Bob get real about what happens when leadership lands in your lap—whether you asked for it or not. From “org charts on chairs” to the harsh reality of being the single ringable neck, they break down the mistakes, lessons, and turning points that define the journey from individual contributor to leader. They share personal stories of micromanaging gone wrong, learning the hard way about delegation, discovering that the true job of a leader is helping others succeed, and the uncomfortable...

Sep 01, 202534 minSeason 2Ep. 89

Human-Centered Leadership for High Performing Teams

In this episode, Josh and Bob challenge the growing obsession with artificial intelligence and mechanical leadership “frameworks” by reminding us what matters: leading humans like a human . They unpack what authentic high-performance leadership looks like and how showing genuine care for people is still the most powerful management tool you have. Instead of passing leadership responsibilities on to checklists or algorithms, the hosts lay out a bold reminder — real leadership comes from connectio...

Aug 18, 202530 minSeason 2Ep. 88

If You Don’t Do These Things, You’re Not Leading

What does great leadership look like? In this episode, Josh and Bob unpack their personal, hard-earned list of what truly defines a great leader — beyond the metrics, beyond the titles, and way beyond the fluff. From building resilient, high-performing teams to owning mistakes, speaking truth to power, and knowing when to be patient (and when to push), this is a no-BS breakdown of how to measure leadership that matters. This isn’t theory. It’s lived experience — the stuff you feel when you’re ar...

Aug 11, 202525 minSeason 2Ep. 87

Are You a Leader or Just In the Role?

In this powerful episode, Josh and Bob go all-in on the responsibility of leadership—especially when it’s uncomfortable. Prompted by listener feedback questioning whether it’s “worth it” to speak truth to power, they deliver a no-nonsense masterclass on the cost and courage of real leadership. This conversation is blunt, passionate, and grounded in decades of lived experience. From promotions earned by speaking uncomfortable truths to the burden of responsibility great leaders carry, this is not...

Aug 04, 202521 minSeason 2Ep. 86

An Unfiltered Masterclass for Modern Leaders

In this episode, Josh and Bob dive deep into Colin Powell’s 18 Principles of Leadership , but with a Meta-Cast twist. They each bring their top five principles to the table and unpack them—not as motivational posters, but as real-world lessons earned in the trenches. The discussion spans hard truths about pissing people off as a leader, the danger of falling in love with the "expert" class, why perpetual optimism actually moves teams forward, and how fun and humility are underrated superpowers. ...

Jul 28, 202534 minSeason 2Ep. 85

Stop Avoiding Hard Conversations at Work

Silence is compliance. That’s the raw truth at the heart of this episode. Josh Anderson and Bob Galen dive into what it really means to speak truth to power — and why so many teams and leaders fail to do it. They unpack the fear, politeness, and avoidance that keep people quiet, and share hard-won advice on building a culture where truth-telling is not just encouraged but expected. Through real stories, role-playing, and honest debate, they challenge leaders (title or not) to step up, put the un...

Jul 21, 202539 minSeason 2Ep. 84

Why “I Don’t Know” Is a Power Move for Leaders

Curiosity isn’t optional. It’s a leadership superpower — and most leaders don’t use it nearly enough. In this episode, Josh Anderson and Bob Galen unpack what real curiosity looks like in leadership. They explore how fake curiosity shows up (leading questions, hidden agendas, performative listening), and how authentic curiosity creates space for collaboration, innovation, and trust. You’ll learn practical ways to assess your own curiosity, how to reawaken it in your team, and why the ability to ...

Jul 14, 202527 minSeason 2Ep. 83

Product Leadership Is Your Competitive Edge in the AI Era

In this future-facing episode, Josh Anderson and Bob Galen make the case that great product leadership is more important than ever —especially in a world of AI-driven development, vibe coding, and accelerating speed. They argue that no matter how fast you can build, if you’re not building the right things for the right reasons, you’re setting yourself up for failure. Josh shares lessons from his own real-time experience building a product with AI, discovering that clear context, product thinking...

Jul 07, 202535 minSeason 2Ep. 82

The Blueprint for Storytelling That Actually Works

Storytelling isn’t a soft skill — it’s a leadership superpower. In this jam-packed and practical episode, Josh Anderson and Bob Galen unpack what great storytelling actually looks like in leadership. They explore the difference between rambling and landing , and share how leaders can create clarity, shape culture, and inspire action with stories that actually stick. You’ll learn how to mine your own experiences for powerful “nuggets,” avoid common traps like over-explaining or name-dropping, and...

Jun 30, 202551 minSeason 2Ep. 81

Transparency Is the Job, Not a Nice to Have

Transparency sounds simple — until you actually have to live it. In this raw and deeply honest episode, Josh Anderson and Bob Galen explore what real transparency in leadership looks like, why so many leaders avoid it, and how fear, ego, and storytelling get in the way. From sharing hard truths to navigating organizational risk, they unpack why transparency isn't just about honesty — it's about trust , respect , and the courage to stop filtering. They challenge leaders to stop underestimating th...

Jun 23, 202538 minSeason 2Ep. 80

The Most Underrated Leadership Skills You’re Not Practicing

In this fast-paced and practical episode, Josh Anderson and Bob Galen run through 10 essential “hats” every leader must learn to wear — even the ones that feel uncomfortable or counterintuitive. From truth-teller to listener , follower to guide , each role represents a different kind of leadership presence and responsibility. They challenge the myth that leaders should always have the answers, instead offering a more grounded view of modern leadership: one rooted in humility, honesty, coaching, ...

Jun 16, 202517 minSeason 2Ep. 79

Agile Changed Everything, So Why Are We Still Complaining?

In this passionate and energizing episode, Josh Anderson and Bob Galen ask a bold question: Why did we stop celebrating Agile? Agile won. It changed how we build software forever. But today, the loudest voices in the community are complaining, nitpicking, or chasing the next hype cycle. Josh and Bob push back on the negativity and call for a return to appreciation, optimism, and respect for the movement that changed their careers — and so many others. They reflect on the historical context, shar...

Jun 09, 202532 minSeason 2Ep. 78

AI Won’t Replace You, But Misusing It Might

In this highly relevant and no-holds-barred episode, Josh Anderson and Bob Galen dive into the AI boom — not from a hype lens, but from the trenches of leadership, technology, and craft. They explore how AI is shaping the tech industry, what’s getting better, what’s getting worse, and why so many people are using it wrong. Bob shares his shift from skeptic to advocate, revealing how AI has helped him write, coach, and even navigate personal challenges. Josh draws sharp comparisons between the AI...

Jun 02, 202543 minSeason 2Ep. 77
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