Builders & Community | Creating Agentic AI

portions of of creating the world, which was very fine and dandy. But no, today, we're going to be jumping into the last bucket of the four c's, the community bucket, aka, also known as the builders bucket. We'll talk about what, that name change is all about, and what is actually being built in this, where are the AI agents at, and perhaps even a little bit of the mess that I've stumbled myself into. So let's just kick it off. Let's jump right into it.

The builders have gathered. Alrighty. We've come to the pointy end of the stick. This is the part of Morpheus that I was most interested in the kind of whole vision of everything that I I expect slash want from from this project and hope that it can deliver. And this is the the, you know, the the valuable thing, the AI agents. And so let me try and do my best impression. Zion, hear me. It's true what many of you have heard. The agents have gathered. And then we'll, we'll stop the quote there.

Because if you actually move, tune into that section of the movie says, the machines have gathered and they've actually gathered to kill them also not not good things. But that's alright. That's what what we're doing here. Hopefully, there's gonna be no attacking going on with our AI agents that we're creating. So the builder subnets are officially live and cranking out for raw rewards for those who are builders on the Morpheus network. I believe the first batch of them went out on the '20

oh, sorry. The March 15. So, what, just over a week ago at twenty twenty five. And as usual, 24% of the, protocol rewards go to this bucket and etc, etc. We'll talk about tokenomics in next week's episode. Now it talks, I said the builder subnets are live and subnet is just a random nomenclature word. I think it's just there to say like, hey, you know, you're part of a larger network. So if you're building on it, you're a builder subnet instead of just being a builder.

Why is that? I don't know. But, you know, sounds kinda cool. So that's that's what it is. The builder subnets. So what is a builder? What is a builder? I might hear hear you asking.

For those of you who've tuned into the mere mortals conversations, in the past or perhaps you're more recent listener as well, you'll know that I'm quite passionate about languages, about terminology, how words are used. Although I am not the greatest speaker myself with all of my little face, facial tics, the vocab tics, the, umms and ers and all these sorts of things. I don't think I actually want to bother to become a great speaker.

I am very interested in languages themselves, and you'll see this with my learning Spanish, German, Portuguese, etcetera, etcetera. And also because I read a whole ton, with the book reviews. One, there's a big long way of saying that words matter. And one consistent thing that I've noticed in the the Morpheus, I guess, project change over time in the last year and a half roughly is the, changing of the

words between community and builders. So we've got our little Morpheus the Builder here on your screen. And it actually used to be community right at the start. The four c's, I keep I keep on saying the four c's, code, capital, compute, and community. And but wait, we're talking about builders. What the hell is, where's the community at? And, you know, taking my little anthropological observation, which is somewhat what this podcast is turning into. In fact, it's a snapshot of time.

And, I would say that the point of this bucket is kind of between these two things. It's it's about builders and it's also about community. And the word builders is now in much more frequent use. So I guess we'll start with that. What what is a builder? And its popularity, I guess, now is makes sense because it's kind of more intuitive. The whole reason we're here is to have unsolicited, private, and therefore decentralized

AI agents. So if you're in the Morpheus project for for not that, I'm not sure why you're here. And to have these things, someone needs to build them. You know, this needs to be a creation of of these particular agents. There's probably not gonna be just one. I think the also the Morpheus project is about agentic AI as a whole and not just a singular one, but many, many. And so I think I talked about this in the super agents episode.

And in particular, I'm talking about those that are, you know, connected to a web three wallet that can interpret human language and commands from human language. And therefore, they'll have the agency, the AI agent, in pursuing the goals slash tasks that you create for it and probably in an increasingly complex series of tasks or steps to get to the end goal, with, you know, probably more inputs needed from you. So, you know, some examples here so you know what I'm talking about.

The first iterations of these will be probably relatively basic, and you might be getting it to just engage in web three crypto stuff. So you could be saying, like, hey, I want you to, you know, I'll give you, you know, a hundred USD c or something because it's a little starting bankroll here,

go out and farm some, you know, engagement farm. So, you know, set up a Twitter for it or things like that social media, you know, engagement farm, perhaps get some airdrops as rewards from that trade up with these rewards to x amount of ETH,

sell the ETH token in tranches. So, you know, dollar cost averaging out, and perhaps or sell into ETH and then stake the yield or, you know, variations of these things where you're just saying do all of these things, and it has access to the wallet and can actually do it. Now later ones, the future that I envision and imagine, I don't know, four years, six years, eight years down the line is gonna be much more easier and basic, which will be let's take,

something like starting a business from scratch, for example. And you could start by saying, like, okay. I want to find a niche product or if there's something that I think will do well. Let's take the the vfriends I IP, for example, the NFT series, which I think is rather interesting. And, I could see there's perhaps a demand for infotainment, a podcast on that. So can you create me a podcast, or, you know, one of those faceless YouTube channels, for example,

design a website for me. And if you can't do that, pay someone to design the website for me that should look like this x y z, or perhaps even other agents to do that. And, okay, I've noticed there's a a trend of live shopping coming. Can we do something where you'll buy the cards from eBay for me, you'll send them to my address. I'll, you know, set them up in nice locations or something. And, you know, you and I can interact together on a on a podcast to

sell these things in a live shopping format and, you know, maybe set aside some for myself and to build a collection. That's just a big random example of saying like this is the kind of future where you there's you you maybe just say something can ask it to, you know, can you buy me these cards from eBay? And it

will need to, I guess, like start up an eBay account, have wallet connected. Can you use crypto on eBay? Okay. No. Maybe is there a third party app which will allow me to use USDC via this mechanism to put it in here or perhaps create, you know, a physical card that's somewhere linked to an address?

All sorts of things where it's like, okay, I know what the end goal is, but how to get there, I will have to do many different things. And when I'm saying I am talking about I as the agent doing that. So, you know, pure agent stuff is what I'm really talking about here. And to do all of that you need someone to build something that is capable of doing this. Now, community also reflects this bucket in a in a manner, slightly less now.

In, for example, in the white paper, right in the intro, it simply referred to as the community of users. So this is people using the Morpheus network and the infrastructure and the agents. And in particular, the, I guess, original vision was that these would be the people providing data to train the models, and that was the community bucket. In essence, within the first couple of months, I was trolling just through the discord and, you know, places like that.

And I noticed, okay, there's this trend or shift of it being not really about providing your data, which is more important, but which is actually creating front ends of websites or tools or apps or interfaces to interact with the the Morpheus network and therefore that does community capture that completely? No, that sounds like people building things. So funnily enough, I actually wouldn't be surprised if this portion gets revisited again at some point in the Morpheus project because, you know,

for sure, I don't know how we we've all realized that data is insanely valuable. This is why places like Facebook and Instagram are just ridiculously wealthy, and created a lot of value because they just captured so much data. And that data is also now, you know, extremely valuable for all of these large language models, which need fresh human data fresh. Makes it sound like they're vampires to to sustain themselves. And our data,

they need new stuff as well. There's, you know, they've probably trolled as much as they can, but they need caches of new new new stuff. So will the Morpheus network help incentivize that where,

people actually get paid for that? You know, is that going to come from here? I don't know. I feel like surely at some point, some way or some former business would would be able to create this thing where it's like, okay, you actually provide your data, you get to interact, interact with the the website itself, the Instagram or whatever it is, and you actually get paid for for doing this for, you know, obviously, it's it's hard to do because then people just engagement farm and and really,

provide low value stuff to try and get rewards. You know, you can't get anything for free. And if you're the product, and if it is free, then you're the product. So but if I have something that's super valuable, I am paying in a way. But shouldn't I get be paid for it? I don't know. Just spitballing here. But this really

shows how the, I guess, the flipping of the Morpheus project went where it went away from, okay, you provide your data. That's that's how, what the community bucket for is. No. You're the one building something and you get rewarded from the protocol for that. So we'll see what happens in the future with that. Maybe that'll make it come back in some shape or form.

So who is building at the moment? And, I'm just gonna go through a list of some of the tooling front ends, stuff that is popular that I find interesting that I know a little bit about. And, we'll just go right at the top of the list that you can see on your screen here. My super agents is leading the pack in terms of the amount of people staking the amount of more stake to it.

And I didn't talk about the, you know, the tokenomics once again of the the builders bucket, but essentially it has many of the features that you'll see in the, code

and capital, which is and coming into the compute as well, which is as the power factor for staking. So if I, as the builder, say, I'm not gonna touch these rewards from this for, you know, six years, then you get a power factor applied to that indicating your long term alignment, I guess, with the Morpheus project and, you know, not needing to sell as early something like that, and

all those sorts of things. So with my super agents, what that's doing is, I apparently, it's just like a lot of what I talked about in episode three on that super agents article by David Johnston is creating those sort of things. So, with this website, I tried using it myself. Still haven't really figured out how to do it. I haven't spent a whole lot of time on it either.

But you could create your own agent, which will do things like DCA for you, periodic claiming, data analysis, create your own agent. And, the reward type for staking to this is to be TBA, to be announced. Mallord, we've talked about this many times. Website and Analytics, once again, a, you know, TBA coming for that. CoinCap, this is prices. Market cap rankings, API access, is what you get from it as well as a yield. So they'll provide some more back to you for staking with them.

And we've got Tails and Conquest, which is a text based RPG role playing game with AI with an AI game master. So you can see how the AI agent is is coming into that. This will give you early access and a more yield. And probably one of the easiest to understand ones is a Venice, which is access to the Venice pro with, I believe it's 20 more staked. Or if you received some of the VVV airdrop, if you have 100 of that you can also get it.

I one of the things I loved about Morpheus right at the start, you know, six months ago was the access to Venice Pro by having one more in your wallet, which I found extremely useful. And that was one of the things I like seeing real life use cases of, okay, if I hold a token or if I have a thing, this is what I can do with it. And that was just a real blindingly obvious great one. I actually kept a hundred VVV from the funnily enough, like, I sold everything else, but kept a hundred

just because, like, yeah, I'm sure. Thank you. I'll keep that and you exactly need a hundred. So I got very lucky with that one. So I'm not staking any more to Venice because I already have that from other things. If you go to more.org in the dashboard for the builders list or more.com, you can see this list that I'm talking about. You can go through it, have a look at these different people who are building it,

a whole bunch of others. So just list off some here. Morpheus Asia, Y Network, Katara, NounSpace Tom. There's a whole bunch of things going on here. I'm not calling out any in particular. You'll notice there's a, both arbitrium and base network, which you can see. I'll be talking in the future about how more is chain agnostic and why that's important. So you're in in future, you know, I imagine a lot of this will just get

abstracted away where it'll just be, you know, staked to this agent. And it doesn't matter what network that you're interacting with, it'll automatically know. Now personally, I've yet to stick to any of these for one good reason, which is I haven't got my wallet set up secure with all of this stuff because it's so new. It's, I think, wise to have some precautions of, realizing that things can go wrong. And, you know, if you stake, there's the lock period, maybe the contract has an exploit.

Who knows? Especially if it's new, it takes time for all of these things to get figured figured out the front end of more.org or things like this could could, you know, be hacked all these sorts of things. I'm I'm using these terms very loosely and,

but you can you can understand things can go wrong and not behave as you expect them to behave. So, personally, what I do, I like to break up wallets and have just experiment like really experimental ones with minimal amounts of money and nothing that I would be devastated if it got drained and use that to experiment, play around with. Obviously, the longer time goes on, the more incentives, the more money that is being thrown at things,

the more secure it becomes with more eyeballs on it. When the the prize is bigger, the it draws the attention both good and bad of, people looking looking for, okay, why is this valuable? So, one of the things I've learned from my friend Chris Fisher over at Jupiter Broadcasting,

is that it's good to play around with minimal amounts. And, you know, I've I know people who have stuffed up wallets, who have done all the bad things, kept money on FTX, for example, of setting up multisigs when they weren't particularly, you know, technically capable and locking stuff in there. You've got to be careful with all of these things. So, yeah, that's all my little word of caution. Just when you're interacting with these things have, have have some thoughts with regards to that.

Now you might be saying, what the hell, Kyren? The whole purpose of Morpheus is these AI agents, and you didn't just list off any then. There was none there. What's going on? Where are the agents at? And can we fix it? Well, I don't know is the is the question to that answer to that. Even Bob the Builder here is looking a little bit fostered. So a little bit stressed out. It's very new. Like I said, it's a week old the builders bucket in terms of distributing rewards and, you know,

where that thing was available. That list was probably available like a month or two months ago. So in terms of being able to join this to this is still early days, still early, early days. So, if you're being built, something's being built on it, it just takes a long ass time for people to realize what's there and if it's valuable or not. And a lot of it's just in the attention

and intention of the, you know, the overall vision and then of people being able to actually build on it. And, you know, one of the kind of memes circulating around is, you know, build it and they will come, build it, more will come And you just got to build stuff and it's like upfront costs and

you'll see over time if it's valuable or not. So, one of the things I mentioned Chris Fisher just before he was back in Bitcoin in the, you know, earlier, earlier days, believe he started off the first Bitcoin podcast called Plan B in 2013, I believe it was maybe 2014. It was around that time period. And one of the things he highlights is, you know, he used to have a lot of BTC back then or what is would be considered a lot right nowadays.

And, the whole ethos of the time was to spend your your Bitcoin because it's a payment network and you want to get it off the ground. And so that was kind of the zeitgeist at the time. Pay, use your BTC, spend it, utilize it. And of course, if you're doing that, you're not hoarding it. And so he unfortunately has way less now than he than he had back then.

And this is ouch, first of all, and there's also a good incentive is to be like, okay, when you're thinking about these things, it's you gotta find that mix between using it and then also perhaps treating it as partly as an investment and, and finding that little mix between you, what you personally want to do. So when you're thinking about this, okay, you know, whole bunch of random stuff there. There's no amazing plug and play agents.

I think it's just in the future, I I think they'll come across. They'll as people realize that the, the problems of having crypto and an agent together and a token linked together. There's a lot of things related to that At the moment, you can see a lot of them do. I'll list off some AI xbt, virtuals, Luna, Daqueen, Truth Terminal. You know, they've all got their own funding

mechanisms, fire tokens. And whilst it's fun, you know, gambling on these things and people are enjoying doing that, I'm not sure that is the model that'll lead to the world that I envision, where

you want to have a bit of separation, where builders can actually build these things, get rewarded, but they're not having to to deal with like, what are the tokenomics of this? How am I going to distribute this out and things like this? No. It should be a simple plug and play thing where it's like I've developed an agent.

I list it on the Morpheus builders. I get some rewards from that and people stick to it. And the marketplace of agents is is kind of what I envision for all of this and hope comes to fruition. But like I said, you know, Bitcoin peer to peer electronic cash, certainly hasn't found itself as that now. It's a it's a store of value.

Will it ever get to that state? Perhaps. But, you know, perhaps it takes just a long time period to do you find that price appreciation and value to become a bit more stable over time, less volatile, and then that is what it can be used for.

Perhaps Morpheus has a similar thing going on, and it'll just take time for it to reach its its kind of end goal and end state. And maybe it's not even the end goal and end state that was originally envisioned. If you look at the white paper, a whole bunch of things have changed, since then, notably, one of them being the community slash builders bucket. So, you know, it's

that model is a bit too fragmented in a way with all these individual agents running around with their own tokens and things like that. And I imagine they'll eventually come over. Like I said, it's a freaking week old, two weeks old. So calm your horses. Can we fix it? Bob the builder doesn't need to be stressed out. I think I think we probably can. So much like the capital and, code bucket

compute, I'm gonna stay well away from. I'm gonna help participate here. And you can help participate with me by actually sticking to the mere Morpheus podcast subnet. That's indeed correct. I've created one and actually got it out live probably just before this episode. And well, I know just before this episode started. So simple enough, go on to more.org,

find the builder dashboard, and you can see my subnet in particular down there. I think I'm, what, one of 100 maybe that's on the list. There's not that many. And you can stick to me, but what are you building, Karin? You know, what have I kind of fall accidentally fallen into something here? You know, help. I accidentally built an agent, a more agent. And I've been thinking for a while,

probably the last six months of, like, you know what? I wouldn't mind trying my hand at creating an agent of, a Chiron agent, perhaps, or perhaps it would just be a mere mortals podcast agent. You know, I've certainly got data in terms of, you know, it's proprietary in a way in that it's mine, I created it, but it's out for free public public use. You know, when you put things out in a podcast, you agreeing to not have DRM to digital rights management.

And so all of that info was out there, you know, in terms of thousands of hours of audio of myself or video of myself and my co host one translations of our audio into text, you know, thousands of of hours of that, on podcasts that are both niche and broad.

If you've tuned into the mere mortals conversations, you might be like, damn, you guys are all over the place. You know, one day you're talking about fitness, next is self development, then it's technology, then it's travel, you know, pick a topic, goddamn it, and stick to it.

I've never enjoyed that myself. And it's actually a really terrible strategy for creating a podcast and a brand. You probably should start off niche. And then if it gets popular, you can kind of expand out, from that, such as, what what Bitcoin did, if you if you want to look at that one. But this is actually where having such a broad category of things that I've talked upon and interacted with is actually coming in clutch. So Buddha, Kyrin from the past, making good decisions.

But, yeah, essentially, what I'm I'm thinking of doing is to create an agent, which would be kind of educational content about Morpheus perhaps or information infotainment related to to this project in particular, because it definitely feels like there's a underserved market for it. I find it super exciting and interesting. Obviously, I've created a whole podcast on it, and maybe I could turn this podcast into an an AI chiron who's doing it. And it's, you know,

I'd want it to be valuable. I'd want it to actually be interesting and not just, you know, rent reading off random text. But, yeah, we'll see. We'll see. I I would like to to do that. I think that would be kinda cool. So

my job here is done. Wipe my hands clean, and you could be asking, but you didn't do anything. And I left the part out of this meme where I'm grabbing my cloak and just straight up dipping. The, you know, that that's just a I would like to do that. But are you gonna? But am I gonna? This is one of those things where I'm I'm gonna make no promises. Yeah. I would certainly like to attempt it and try it, but I attempted and tried to learn Python. And that was a absolute abysmal

failure disaster in that I didn't enjoy it. And so there was no way I was gonna keep continuing to do it. So creating an agent Kyrin, that's not an easy thing to do. Otherwise, everyone would be doing it by now. So I would have to spend time learning how to interact with these things. I'm not gonna code it myself. So I would need to have something like my super agents to help me create one.

Or I, you know, I've I've yet to dive into the whole Eliza virtuals, all those sorts of frameworks where you can help create them. So that, you know, I'm talking about the building of something there. What I've done mostly for them, this part is actually more on the community side of things. So obviously, I've created this podcast, which I hope is educational and has has helped people out.

However, is that deserving of being, you know, maybe under the old definition of community, this podcast could fall under a community and deserve to be rewarded from the protocol for that. Is it in this current definition? I'd say probably not. If it was just me creating this podcast, no. There's no point of me getting rewarded from the protocol for that,

even if that's what members of the community would wish to happen, for example. So there was actually a guy early on in the discord February 2024, I believe it was, and he was from a podcasting network block something. And he wrote up this thing where he's like, you know, this is really interesting, exciting.

I propose to create a podcast with this. We'll do this many metrics. You know, we'll get this many views and engagement. It'll take ten hours a week or something to do this. And it's like, cool. Alright, man. You're free and fine to do that. But getting rewarded from the protocol from that, that's probably not gonna happen. And he was rightfully told, like, this is this is not how it works. You know, if if you want something,

a partnership of guaranteed payment, this is not the place to be coming and doing that. And this is not the bucket to be looking for that from. So, anyway, what I have done, I've, as I mentioned, I've created a builder subnet. If I find within, you know, six months or a year that I, okay, I've obviously not created anything of, build built anything of of value in particular an agent. And whilst I still might be contributing to the community,

I'm not actually building anything. I'd I'm I'll voluntarily take that down. You know, the the thing with protocols and stuff like this is, what is it? Good crypto protocols are all about monetary incentives. So it's good if it creates behavior that's value adding, bad if it's, you know, value detracting or extractive. I think the open market sorts a lot of these things out. Obviously,

you don't have to stake to my builder subnet. It could get zero stake, and then therefore it would, you know, not get any rewards from the protocol directly. You know, I've staked one more to it just before starting this podcast to test it out. I've got some friends who will probably, stick to it because I'll tell them, like, hey, stick to this thing. I want wanna see what your experience is like,

and to support me at the moment. That is mostly what it would be about. It would be about supporting the podcast. But, you know, even though technically it's it's allowed and I could do that, I like to follow the spirit of the rules as well. So not just what is technically allowed. So that is the the builder's bucket. I hope it's been informative for you today. Did I miss anything out,

anything you would like to know more about? Please let me know in the in the comments and things like this. So we'll jump on to the value for value section.

So this podcast is available anytime, anywhere for anyone, and I intend to keep it that way. There'll be no gatekeeping. There will be no, even though, you know, I could have said, like, oh, you get access to the Mia Morpheus podcast if you stick to the the subnet. No. That's that's not how I run things here. I put all the value up upfront. And if I get rewarded from that because it's valuable and people enjoy that, then that's what will happen. Now

what this does require is for all of the value I provide you that you provide some back to me. And you can do this in many different ways. Time, talent, and treasure is the easiest way of explaining this. Time, sharing this with a friend, giving it a sub, a like, you know, all of these sorts of things. Providing feedback, joining me on the live streams that I do, which are 11AM Australian Eastern Standard Time on a Monday or certainly for the next two ish months until I go traveling.

You can also contribute some talent graphics wise if there's things that you are good at. If you're a meme master, I like putting memes in there so you could help contribute some memes, provide answers to what I'm asking on the discord. My website certainly needs an update. So if you're any good at websites or think, okay, you know,

someone go into the meme orpheus build a subnet, they see that it's just being directed to the YouTube playlist that I've created of this. I'll give a little I could write something up that would be useful to Kyren and useful to explaining what the Mia Morpheus podcast is. All of these sorts of things are valuable. And then also treasure. So what I have done,

there's quite a few ways that you can provide this now. So there is the, my Ethereum address where you can just straight up send some more to on, you know, whatever network based arbitrum, wherever Morpheus is available at.

There is the way of using me as a staking reference. So if you're providing staked ETH, you could, use the link that is down below, and I get a bonus from that apparently. Don't think anyone's tried it out yet, so I've yet to see that. You could also stick to the builder subnet now, which would be super cool and very much appreciated. And then finally, there's some other options. PayPal link down below.

And if you want to use one of the podcasting apps, the modern ones where you can stream Bitcoin via the Lightning Network, a place like Fountain, True Fans, Podcast Guru, Podverse, Cast O Matic, a whole bunch of different options there in the podcasting two point o world. So, you know, much like the other podcast guy learnt, none of this is guaranteed. If I don't receive value from this podcast in terms of feedback, in terms of, you know, the time, talent or treasure,

I'll realize like, okay, obviously it's not valuable to people and it will go away. Maybe it'll come back in a different form. I'm not sure. What I can promise is that there's going to be about another maximum eight more episodes, And then I'm going to Europe for two months, and that'll be way too hard to do episodes while traveling. Once I come back from there, I've got a steady location again. I'll think about what I want to do with this podcast in terms of starting up a season two.

And like I said, creating a, more of an agentic podcast or perhaps even doing interviews with people, whole bunch of stuff I could do, but I need to also know what you guys want to hear and what you at home would love to hear. So that is gonna be it for today. I really do appreciate you for joining in. And, until the next time, ciao for now. Cara now. Bye.