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Mens Sana: A Motion for Mental Health

A podcast by lawyers with mental health issues for lawyers. A play on the Latin phrase "mens rea" meaning "a guilty mind," our podcast title "Mens Sana" means the opposite: a healthy mind. Our mission is to start a conversation between us and our listeners about ways in which lawyers can more easily approach the subject of mental health at work and at home. Will you join us?
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Episodes

It's Okay to Have a Bad Day

Kaitlyn is struggling today -- her looming potential PMDD has her in a bit of a rut. But, we manage to provide you with some hopefully helpful #WFH tips and a reminder that you are not just working from home, you are home during a pandemic trying to get work done.

May 25, 202034 min

Social Media Scaries

Kaitlyn & Laura talk through their social media woes and offer some options for how to use social media to help create some normalcy, most of which revolve around TikTok and pretending we understand the language of Gen Z.

May 18, 202035 minSeason 2Ep. 2

WE'RE BACK!

After a (not so) brief hiatus, Kaitlyn and Laura are BACK with some raw, unfiltered mental health #content to get us all through quarantine. We are keeping things low pressure for the indefinite future and even introducing a video component! Check out our Instagram @amotionformentalhealth for a sneak preview. We missed you!!

May 11, 202024 minSeason 2Ep. 1

Ep. 18 - The Introverted Lawyer, pt. 2

Kaitlyn intros the episode with a quick announcement. Then, Laura and Kaitlyn continue their discussion with Heidi K. Brown and walk through all seven steps of Heidi's journey to empowered advocacy for introverted lawyers. Heidi shares her happy pill this week and assigns some creative homework!

Mar 02, 202046 min

Ep. 17 - The Introverted Lawyer - Interview with Heidi K. Brown

Are you an introvert or an extrovert? Join Kaitlyn and Laura as they discuss all things introversion with 2-time ABA published author and Brooklyn Law professor Heidi K. Brown. Heidi describes the difference between introverts and extroverts and how being an introvert can make law school and lawyer life difficult to navigate. She shares her personal experiences and how she found her voice in a profession that encourages extroversion. As always, we send you off with some happy pills and homework....

Feb 24, 202048 min

Ep. 16 - Lawyers Helping Podcasting Lawyers

Join Laura and Kaitlyn's conversation with Jim Leffler, Clinical Director of the Virginia Judges and Lawyers Assistance Program (AKA Lawyers Helping Lawyers) as they discuss totems for indicating misbehaving brains, and the bevy of services that VJLAP provides, including lawyer-vetted therapy and wellness groups, 12-step substance abuse recovery groups, therapy facilitation, bar referrals, CLE events, and volunteer opportunities

Feb 17, 202058 min

Ep. 15 - The Clickbait Episode

Remember that Above the Law article about William and Mary's health center mishandling law students' mental health from a few years ago? We had the chance to speak with Ryan Walkenhorst (JD '19), one of the main subjects of the article and the mastermind behind W&M's overhaul of its mental health environment, for an exclusive BTS look into her experience working with the administration to build the supportive environment that now exists there. Ryan also shares her happy pills and homework bu...

Feb 10, 20201 hr 2 minSeason 1Ep. 15

Ep. 14 - Game Time

Join Laura and Kaitlyn as they learn about the errors of their extroverted ways, play a rousing game of personal + mental health trivia, and distinguish between ashtrays and asstrays. As always we close out the episode by sharing our happy pills for the week-no homework for you this time!

Feb 03, 20201 hr 8 min

Ep. 13 - Are They Really Still Talking About Resources?

Laura drives into a field Michael Scott style, we're starting a mental health book club, and we finally get to the point and rattle off tons of mental health resources that you can access right from your phone. As always, we close out the episode by sharing our happy pills and homework.

Jan 27, 202051 minSeason 1Ep. 13

Ep. 12 - I Need a Freaking Therapist

In this episode, Laura and Kaitlyn continue the conversation on exploring mental health resources, including personal experiences with virtual and in-person individual therapy, group therapy, psychiatry, and Laura's penchant for art nudes before sending you off with happy pills & homework.

Jan 20, 20201 hr

Ep. 11 - Hitting 2020 At a Racewalk Pace

Kaitlyn and Laura review some staggering statistics about mental health in the US and discuss the apparent lack of available and accessible mental health resources. As always, we send you off with some happy pills and homework.

Jan 13, 202041 minSeason 1Ep. 11

Ep. 10 - Mens Sana After Law School

We finally teamed up with Jack and David, hosts of the podcast "Law School After Dark", to talk all things mental health during and after law school. The team talks through the difficulties of law school, Kaitlyn & Laura share bar exam horrors and study tips and how being a lawyer isn't much different than law school, and we all share some happy pills & home work. Moral of the episode? Treat the bar exam like World of Warcraft and you'll be just fine!

Jan 06, 20201 hr 6 minSeason 1Ep. 10

Ep. 09 - This Is How We Do It

Kaitlyn, Laura, and their special guest Rebecca, co-founding partner of Nixon Law Group, talk building a mentally healthy workplace from the ground up, radical optimism, and the power of reframing versus eradicating your anxiety.

Dec 30, 20191 hrSeason 1Ep. 9

Ep. O7 - Holigays: Addressing LGBTQIA+ Mental Health

Kaitlyn, Laura, and their special guest Matt kick off the first episode of their diversity-focused mini-series! They discuss all things mental health for the LGBTQIA+ community, diversity versus inclusion, and personal takes on how identification impacts mental health.

Dec 16, 20191 hr 2 min

Ep. 06 - Making Your Holidays Happy

Laura and Kaitlyn discuss how we as lawyers can work to make sure our holidays are actually happy. As always, we send you off with some happy pills and homework.

Dec 09, 201949 minSeason 1Ep. 6

Ep. 05 - Check Yourself

Kaitlyn talks about her new ADHD diagnosis and medication, Laura goes from 0-4 happy pills REAL QUICK, and they both discuss the physical and metaphorical feelings associated with anxiety and depression. As always, we send you off with some happy pills and homework.

Dec 02, 201952 minSeason 1Ep. 5

Ep. 04 - Making Time for Mental Health

Kaitlyn and Laura talk about scheduling time to address your own mental health, Laura dreams of being a flower girl, and Kaitlyn foreshadows a new diagnosis. As always, we send you off with some happy pills and homework.

Nov 25, 201955 minSeason 1Ep. 4

Ep. 03 - Dealing on the Daily

Kaitlyn and Laura explore a few of the many ways that being a lawyer can affect mental health and contribute to mental illness on a daily basis. We bring in perspectives from a civil litigator, a public defender, and a big law healthcare lawyer from NYC and share some examples of stigma we heard from our listeners after Episode 2. As always, we send you off with some happy pills and homework.

Nov 18, 201957 minSeason 1Ep. 3

Ep. 02 - What Stigma?

Kaitlyn and Laura discuss examples of mental health stigma in the legal industry, Character & Fitness fears, and ways for lawyers to start talking about mental health with colleagues and peers.

Nov 11, 201949 minSeason 1Ep. 2

Ep. 01 - Talking to No One (Yet)

Meet the hosts Kaitlyn and Laura and learn about our mission and why we're passionate about lawyers' mental health!

Oct 28, 201926 minSeason 1Ep. 1
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