Orbs, UFOs, and Government Secrets | Chris Bledsoe #37

Och världens godaste börjare. Med keddar, picklade rödlök och en legendarisk skorsaken. Kanske med saftigt svenskt nötchet. Leverera direkt i bil. Välkommen till Max. Hej hej, och ska säga här. Äntligen är det dags att heja på våra svenska olympi. Väck dina italienska känsla med min version av Du Gamla Dufria. Från svenska spel, åldersklans 18 år. Because of my book title, um, A Religious Not, uh, he's just making it about Jesus. Well, they couldn't be more further from the truth.

But when that light flies up and stops and comes to you and says I see you, the feeling of that is totally different. Yeah. These big balls of fire, three of'em, forty feet around, standing in space looking. They're so far advanced of us. And you begin to experience this and interact with it, we become very psychic. I'm sitting down in Cape Canaveral with scientists trying to explain to them why they're shooting our rockets out of space. Between Israel.

She said that this does not have to happen, but when we get to this point. Yeah. uh levels uh is the highest highest levels in the government. But good. Yeah. It's been great to get to know you over the last couple of days. Same here. Yeah. It's been excited to be here. Uh I've heard nothing but great stuff. Ryan was uh It was, it was, uh... raving about his good time here. So Yeah, yeah. We had a great time. We saw some some really spectacular things. Yeah, when when he was here.

Of course we had much better weather uh than than we did last night, but um Yeah, it was a bit of a uh you know, we didn't see anything last night to to speak of necessarily, but that happens completely overcast. Yeah. Um drops of rain here and there. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So Yeah, it it's not always, but uh It's pretty pretty much uh

Uh you know, a lot of people have an idea and sometimes it does this, it'll appear right around you really close. But usually that don't happen until you start engaging with it. So what Well once we see it as a group and I get everybody excited about it, then it'll start getting lower and lower and it gets excited like little children. Sometimes it'll come right by your face. Like so. But You gotta get it started. It's like Getting'em excited. Yeah, gotcha.

Well, next time. Next time. I know you'll be back. Uh yeah. So it's always great to see Emily and and and uh she w she's she's great. I think her and Crystal really hit it off. So uh definitely need to come back and we'll we'll do it again.

Um so I I feel like most people know the the your your general story at this point. I mean you're you're you've told it on on several occasions. The uh the first time I heard it was was uh my my good friend Danny Jones's podcast and um uh of course I I've I've read your book since then and Um, so I don't think we need to go into that that at you know, uh a at a detailed level. But I do feel like it's important just for first time listeners that maybe don't know your story.

to just kinda cover the the basics of it, you know, the the big events that have happened to you throughout the course of your life. And actually I thought if we can start with the uh your your childhood experience, um where you were shot. Um I j I just did a near-death experience podcast last week and so um there's a lot of correlation and similarities and from a spiritual standpoint, um, I feel like with with with that and and this.

So if if you what um when I was ten years old, I grew up in the country. I was a father that hunted all his life. I mean, he had hunting dogs, right? He'd run dogs and he did every kind of hunting there was, from coon hunting to bird hunting, to bear to deer and um So I I had a shotgun in my hand at five years old. And um by the um by the time I was ten, eight, nine, ten, I would just anywhere I wanted to go with a rifle or shotgun, I was in the woods during the day and

Um, just so happened to be in nineteen seventy one. I was ten years old on New Year's Day. I was shot by my best buddy by accident and it blew a hole in me. straight in this back of my shoulder, I'm touching the hole on my shoulder blade there and it was about a big big as an orange on a little ten year old guy.

And I thought I was dead. I thought I was I thought I was gonna die, that I wasn't gonna make it. I just knew I was dead and when you know, getting shot, feeling it and it drove me face down in the ground. And hearing them, you know, my cousin and best friend crying about who's going to get help. And I'm like, Somebody just please help me.

And then four hours later I guess I woke up in the hospital and thought I was uh I thought I was dead. I was in outer space is all I remember is seeing the earth from inside something as clear as Uh, you it was so clear I could touch it like a force field or barrier, walls, but you couldn't see it. It was like standing in space looking at all the stars and at Earth kinda getting smaller as it went away.

Then I woke up to the worst pain and reality that and I made it. But uh the next year was tough. Yeah. Had a lot of trouble with you know, this wound draining my inside had tubes in my body and all kind of stuff. But yeah. The the the thinking to to getting shot changed my whole life to where I didn't um I didn't think the same way anymore and the My faith in something above got stronger. You know. It it got much stronger. Uh I became more

Less wanting to use a gun and more wanting to to get in touch with something above. That kinda guided me into where I am today, I guess. On back onto the the the experience of looking down onto the earth, how long do you remember what do you what do you what do you remember about that specific I remember I remember d leaving out of the wherever I was, hospital or truck driving to the hospital, I don't know'cause I was

Uh the the this farmer found me in the woods, heard these boys shouting and crying. Wouldn't no ambulance back in those days and we were twenty miles from town or fifteen. And um he drove in there and put me in a truck, took me to the hospital. And so I thought I was uh I kept asking him, am I I'm gonna die? And he's like, No, you'll be fine. It's just a little little scratch. Just a flesh wound. Yeah. And the whole time I was I was missing, I knew I was gone.

But we you yeah, yeah. So so that that you could consider to be a near death experience, an out of body experience. Yeah, yeah. So do you think that that experience could be potentially part of the reason why you're able to connect with the phenomenon so so closely today? I think it started it, yeah. Yeah. I I really do. And and there was a series of other accidents throughout my life I write about in this book that were just so bizarre, um, that I began to believe

uh in my teenage years that something's out to kill me. Something's trying to stop me from doing what it is I supposed to do one day. I just had this in my thought because weird accidents happening, like had a brand new car. Brand new seventy nine Transam and two thousand miles on it. It runs hot.

Brand new car. I opened a hood and the radiator cap blew off and put me in the hospital with third degree burns. Always something like that. Working on a five story building and scaffolding just collapsed with me in it. So I've had a whole lot of these Um, my mom was so worried, she said, You're accident prong She wouldn't let me have anything, like a go kart or a mini bike. She said, You're gonna kill. You you're just the kind of guy that's gonna

So mom knows best sometimes. That's that's all right. So I thought that all my life that something's out to get me. What? You know, I don't know. And purely because of the accidents that kept happening. Make you think. Was there another accident that created a sort of out-of-body experience? Uh yeah, more than one. Yeah. Um In two thousand and four, when um I was at my sickest point with Crohn's disease. And I write about this. This was a horrible thing. And this is what started it all. Um

I had a doctor because my business was I'd been fighting it for five years at failing. A house building business. I had seventy two houses under construction And and all of a sudden they blew up the World Trade Center, right? And we're doing, you know, a hundred homes a year and here I am with all this inventory and it just started sucking interest money out of me like, no, tomorrow, thirty, forty, fifty thousand a month.

And this was in O one and by O four um I'm sh I'm begging for help, right? Calling on God to help me. And so my daughter recommends me because he knew I was struggling with the Crohn's and and he's like, They got this new medication called a Paxel, that's a antidepressant supposed to help with Crohn's. And so they put me on that. And then before long uh he'd he'd referred me to a psychiatrist to monitor me and, you know, because of all the stress I was under, severe stress.

And before three months was up this doctor had OD'd, died, yep, and had put a hundred and thirteen patients in the hospital. I was the hundred and thirteenth one. And he he just gone off the deep end and started prescribing all the wrong stuff to his patients and he over medicated everybody. Another one of those things, right? Chant and I woke up uh in the hospital. My wife and kids come home looking for me and I'd been home unable to work for the Crohn's and all.

And they found me uh on a lot next door, wooded lot, passed out in the forest. And next thing I know I'm in the hospital. and I'm laying on a stretcher underneath a sheet, completely over my head, whole body, and in a dark little room, and uh I come up out of from under this sheet and I was up at the ceiling and I could see my wife sitting there and three men walked in the room and I heard him say his name. He called him a certain doctor, without saying it on here.

And that was one clue that they knew I'd heard something. But next thing I know I'm back in my body. And um Yeah. That was in O four and then It was what happened, Matt, is the medication he treated me with messed me up bad. It took me some of it was so powerful they couldn't take me off of it. They had to wean me off of it.

And I started h having Paranormal experiences then. seeing things that my wife is like, Yeah it's it's not there. I'm like, I see this. You know, my kids, I was telling'em I could see Something walked by in the hallway. So I guess what happened is it thinned the veil for me to where I began to see this. And I was seeing it in O five, oh six. Uh, but not all that often until I went to the river that day in oh seven and that's when it all

Went in advanced mode, right? Yeah, yeah. Well let's cover that a a bit. Let's let's go into that maybe, you know, the the very short version'cause I again I feel like most people have have Have heard it, but it's it's an incredible story and you and you're one of the most credible UFO abductees on on the planet. So um I appreciate that. Yeah. Um well and Let's say in oh five when I'm recovering from this near death thing, we had to sell our house.

And we're in a you know, five thousand foot home with pool on a fairway and my kids have been raised that way and so all of a sudden now I've lost everything. Everything. um home we sold it to pay debt off. I paid everybody. But I was left with nothing. And um So I'd taken on a job out of town, first job I'd done since I'd went to hospital. So my dad had convinced me to get back to work and to try to manage a construction site. And so four months later, which we we started in October of oh six.

And when Christmas come along, we'd just about done with the job and I sent'em back after the new year to finish up. And long story short, it was January the eighth of oh seven, eighteen years ago this month. Um th last week last week, eighteen years, right? Yeah, eighteen years ago. And so we decided to they wanted to go fishing and celebrate and I took'em to the local river, Cape Field River in North Carolina. It's an old river. Used to be called the Jordan. Back in the old days. And um

So we went fishing and I wasn't into fishing. I was into I was suffering. You know, what am I gonna do? How am I gonna support my children? I'm forty six, I'm still sick with Crohn's, I can hardly manage to go to work. Uh it was just the worst time to in my life, I guess you would say. And Before that day was over, I'd uh walked away from the group and uh just use the excuse I'm going to look for wildlife to to

to get away and just to have a conversation with the heavens. I was crying out desperate, Whoever's up there, I need help. I I can't work. How am I gonna feed my four little children? They were all little, you know, nine, ten Yeah. And um that afternoon I walked away about five, ten after five and uh I walked back to the campfire at ten thirty that night, ten o'clock. So full hours actually had passed. That um

And I didn't know what happened. I walked up on these big balls of fire, three of'em, forty feet around. Big is if you took a two story house, two stories, and made it round, it was that size, all three of'em. Same same size, all three? All three. Looked identical. And uh same color, same shape. Blood red to tangerine orange. Without getting into a lot of detail. I mean I could spend thirty minutes just leading up to what happened, but they took me

Brought me back and I'd found out that uh my son had gone missing, Chris Juner, so I panicked looking for him. The crew, there were three men there, they had been looking at me all night, my son was looking me on foot. And they'd all given up because they couldn't find me. And when I walked back up

Uh Chris Juner had gotten lost. So they were looking for him and give up on both of us. And anyhow I ran and found him in the forest and he was hiding from From these what he said were creatures, little beings about yet. So undoubtedly they were dealing with him while they had me. away somewhere. Up I was up in space. And I you know, everybody's like, What was it like to when they took you? Well I didn't know for a year and a half'cause I couldn't remember it.

But um it's like a virtual tour. It's just like being with three tall um Shadowy looking figures that that was giving me a tour of the future of Events to come. Uh stuff we're seeing right now. The very things that's happening with Iran and Israel. They told me about all that then. I wrote it all down. Yeah, it's happening. What what caused you to remember it? I had uh a regression from a Dr. Dr. Michael O'Connell. He was a Harvard-trained psychiatrist, worked under John Mack.

And the um Discovery Channel hired him h or MUFON somebody did, the investigators to see if they could unlock my memory. And he did. I mean, and it really worked. Uh, I couldn't remember anything. Nothing. I'd pass out. If you started asking me about that night, I would completely

um, just pass out while you're talking to me. And everybody saw it happening. This humongous headache would come, just tremendous. And then I'm out just by you're talking and And it was the hardest thing for me until they sent this physician there and he He said, I'm gonna regress you and I'm gonna remove the block, whatever block they put in your mind. You're not gonna remember it all at once, but over time you will. And um immediately it began these these these nightmares.

yelling in my sleep and afraid of what I was seeing and my wife and children were recording it with iPads and phones and this went on for several months. Then it all became more clear what exactly happened and how they uh basically gave me a virtual tour of things to come. So why do you think they they gave you this virtual torb and then wiped your memory? Did like

To like they're gonna give you all this information and then not let you remember it. W did they did they know that you were gonna, you know, have it have your your mind cleaned at some point in the future to be able to remember it? Yeah, they they're so far advanced of us. They can completely control our lives. Each individual, they can control your life. They can make things happen in your life. They can put people in front of you that you'll meet. Uh they can they can bless you.

But yeah, that's uh But they wanted you to know this information and to share this information. And so what what now, um, thinking back on what they showed you, what are the details? I think this is worth going into detail about exactly what they showed you while you were on the craft. First thing I remember, um

And we we have to understand the the lady, you know, comes into this thing later on. Five years later, right. Yeah. And she's in control completely in control of these beings. And I know this. Um, so they were doing what they were supposed to do, showing me these things. I I guess I had to go through all this suffering and and to to become clear about it and um understand it more.

And staying away from other experiencers and UFO people because they tend to take on each other's experiences, you know. So I I kept it purposely. to me. Everything real to me. And um Uh y you think that that you were chosen to see these things because you're in touch with the spirit that you are. Uh uh with with the w y you're in touch with yourself spiritually and that's part of the reason why

They chose you because you've had these out of body experiences, because you've you're you're you're mature from a spiritual standpoint? Well, I think that's very possible, you know. But truly When it comes to this phenomenon, uh uh there's soft speculation. Yeah. Right. Um, if I can explain one thing, uh uh have you seen close encounters or co you know, co or the third kind. Sure. And the lead character there, uh Richard Dreyfus, sorry, he goes completely nuts. He's not nuts. He's smart.

But he's gone completely nuts with trying to figure out what happened to him. Well that happened to me. When it first happened, I was um I was I went into to my room for a year and a half. I didn't speak to nobody because I I met resistance with the church, with my family and with the community, and my mom's church, my wife's church, other churches. They were all after me.

And claiming that I brought the devil into my house with my children and you know, they even as far as some of'em called social services and tried to have me removed from the home. So this first year and a half was darkness and a nightmare for me'cause I couldn't remember what happened and yet I had to be quiet because I thought I would lose my family. But um

that something would happen they'd I would not have my family. So that means more to me than anything in the world and so I stayed quiet for over a year and uh I didn't even report it until October, which was ten months later. And then when I hit send, it took me two weeks to hit send on the report I made. And then took t February before I'd allowed uh the somebody to come and speak to me. But um The first year and a half I didn't Didn't know anything, but then suddenly

After the regression I started re seeing all this stuff, remembering everything. And I went into Richard Dreyfus mode. I went into plowing up my yard because what I was seeing was signs of the end of the world. Anybody wants to know that's what it was about. I saw um I saw i Iran and Israel. You know, firing rockets at each other. And uh I put all this in writing in twenty twelve to to some journals in the Pentagon, exactly what I was shown about this. And I was shown it in oh seven.

But I couldn't make heads of it till oh about half almost oh nine before I had the regression, late in that summer, maybe. Oh oh oh eight, oh nine. And um So so you're in the craft. So your memory from being in the craft, so you d do you remember do you remember being brought into the craft? Uh all I remember and this is weird is there were three big balls of fire two, three hundred yards away from me, just above the trees.

And the third it were really two to start with. And when I got afraid and started to run, a third one said, No, you're not going anywhere and just appeared above me and shot down and that made me stop again and that's when that third one morphed from a red glowing ball of fire to a tic-tac.

Like the military talks about. It's a football about forty five, fifty foot long. Like the David Fravers. The same thing, yeah. Like a white TikTok. Yeah, it was white and it was light was going around it and folding in on itself and It it was this most amazing thing. This was the third one that that appeared above you as you ran? Yes. Okay. And that, that description is what got the government's attention in a huge way.

'Cause the guy that wrote the Ford in my book is um Jim Simivan from he was the director of operations in the CIA, right? And he told me, he said, Chris, um He said when you made that report that David Fravor's radar had had estimated the craft at forty six foot long, and when you made the report of it being forty five to fifty foot long, We knew right then, bingo, this guy's been taken by one of these things.'Cause they were tracking him off the coast of North Carolina. Okay. And and Jim

Simovin, is that right? Yes. He he was the the he was the the the head of the CIA uh back in he retired in two thousand and seven, I guess it was. So he w when you had this experience. He was the head of the CIA. And you submitted this re you submitted this report to them about this object that you saw. And when did you submit the report? I said it submitted it in October of um Twenty. Seven, two thousand seven. Was he still in charge at that point? He was still working there. Okay. Okay.

And so they had already been studying the Nimitz event and knew what had happened and so that's why it was such a big deal on their radar. Yeah. Wow. Wow. That's how That's how I got there. And there's a lot more reason, you know, but

without getting too far ahead even with NASA. Everybody's like, How did you you know, this guy's been to NASA. They've they've taken him on the grand tour everywhere. Well they have. And Um I spent some time down at Cape Canaveral and working with a few scientists there. And it was all based on these plasmoids you hear'em just now coming out about they're talking about this on in in rep they've just published a report a year ago about

uh NASA is trying to admit to finally seeing these plasmoid beings. And and so I was there th twelve years ago. consulting with them on these plasmoids that harass was harassing their astronauts. These things are coming up outside the cockpits and looking in the windows and harassing the astronauts and stuff. That building you see there. There's only three hundred people ever been in that building.

Ever. And I happen to be one of'em. And that includes all the astronauts and their wives and children and the daughters. So only people who's ever been in that building's been off planet. Wow. Wow. And so that includes me. And I got a a twenty four carat gold pen. that I don't rarely sh show it a lot, but that's the pen is a club of guys that have been off planet. Wow. Wow. That's cool. So um, so backing up just a bit, so then this this reddish amber orange.

uh color that was surrounding these craft, that could have just been some sort of a force field or some sort of a light that's surrounding a tic tac. Is that is that a pro yeah. So So then do you remember so then it appeared above you as you began to rant run run away and do you remember being brought up into the craft? Did it shoot light at you? What what what happened? What I remember. I haven't spoken about this in a long time. Oh, how Pav and my from NASA uh I told him this story many times.

Um, what it what happened was is when this third one appeared and it shot down right beside the other two. Within one second Of me. stopping running and trying to hide again'cause it scared me so bad I didn't run. I turned to run and when I saw it I sh you know, I flinched and kinda went into like a fetal position. It scared me that bad. I knew then, let me tell you something. You can see a ball of light fly by. A lot of people are seeing them now.

And it's it it makes you wonder, what was that? Was that a satellite? Was that a airplane? Your brain goes through everything trying to discredit it. And most people will walk away and then and they've discredited their very own experience that would've opened them up because when you become critical of that thought they won't have anything to do with you. Mm-hmm.

What happened was I saw this thing shoot down and stop. I dropped to my knees to hide again and when I looked up within a second it's over top of me. And it looked like this huge, brilliant, blinding white light with movement in it, just going around and next thing I know I'm inside of something. That's I knew it was round. It was dark, pitch black, couldn't see my hands. I tried to see myself. Didn't know where I was.

But I knew the room was round, it sounded round'cause I could hear my breathing echo and it was small and round. And the next thing I know, this light appears above me. It shines a spotlight straight down on me. And I could see only the circle around me. If I stuck my hand out, it would disappear in the dark. and I sat there for I don't know how long standing there. I was t completely terrified. Actually was crying. And um

the light began to move back. And when it did there were these three shadowy figures, very tall. Couldn't make out details, but they were tall. And that's when um They comforted me to feel, you know, not afraid, don't be afraid. And we wanna show you this. And um you're gonna share this with The world. We want you to share what you see with everyone. And that's when they took me on this tour of destruction. in a World War Three, full blown with Iran and Israel.

But they told me it didn't have to happen. That if we wake up that we can change this and it didn't have to come to that. We had a choice of going up or going down and there's destruction. And that's basically what they showed me. And um Yeah. Did they tell you when it was gonna happen? And Iran beginning to exchange weapons, missiles. I could see'em plainly, leaving Israel, going into Iran and into Syria. I wrote this.

And that's in UFO of God. Yeah, long before they ever started sh firing weapons at Syria in twenty twelve I was I put all this in writing that they will be shooting missiles into Syria. And I ran. And at that point is when the phenomenon was going to come into our existence and reveal itself to the people. And when the people accept that, people become more powerful when you experience this psychically and and in other ways as well. And I think the powers that be knows that.

Yeah. So so that's potentially and we'll come back to what we're seeing today, but that's potentially what we're seeing today then with with the the New Jersey drones and all of that. Exactly. Yeah. Yeah. So so then was there something else? Was there um Ryan mentioned a golden sphere? Uh he mentioned uh flying over Egypt.

Um when was that on this same or was that later? It was when they first took me. Okay. One thing they took me up high above this earth. I never told this. Nobody's ever heard this. Except some scientists at NASA. And I've studied this for years with them, uh with the the the world's expert on tectite. You know, how is a tektite formed? What created tektites? Uh had to be by the sun.

Why did they go to the moon in fifty seven? Why did they create the geophysical year in fifty seven, fifty-eight, where they showed the earth on fire with God's hand on a posture stamp, three cent posture stamp? So I I was shown this vision of the sun. expanding itself over Earth until it took up the whole sky. And then it flashed. Poof. And when it did, it destroyed this planet. So this was part of what they showed me. So I ended up um studying years with that.

And I think that may be what has happened in the past more than once that So they so they showed you the sun expanding to the point where it it it destroyed the earth. Supernova. And then it c and then it collapsed back into itself. It hit the side of the earth what I saw was. It flashed the Pacific side of the ocean and it blew the sand and the water off, like shot it out into space. created icy comets, sandy icy comets, just flung way out in space and coming around.

So then the earth stopped rotating for three days, got lopsided, then it started going the other way. And when it did a wall of water come over the whole United States and the way to Grand Canyon. From west to east. Yep. From east to west. From east to west. Yeah. So onto the east coast, onto uh came from the east coast and washed over California. Created the Scab lands, created Nevada, Utah, those But that's the west coast of the United States.

Okay. This was something they showed me I've never told this. It's the first time I've ever told it. Wow. Well thank you. Exclusive. Limitless exclusive. Seriously. That's crazy, man. That's crazy. So what do you think that what do you think that means? Like what when when do you think that's You th that that's something that we have the ability to to change. Yes. And why that is, is

something that I was explained by them was the everything has a consciousness, including the earth. The earth has a is a living organism that is much like you know, um, lives in harmony with everything with it. But w people b our collective consciousness can affect this planet and it's doing it. It's like the day of the election.

when um if they were counting the votes, the Schumann resonance was off the charts because everybody collectively was zeroed in on that thing. It wasn't the sun doing it, it was the collective consciousness of people. So the way she described it was The more divi divided we become on this planet, the more division, the more war, the more uh negativity, the more the earth will try to rid itself of what's causing this problem.

And I think that these uh and I'm speculating, right? But this is what I was told and what I was shown. So all I can do is is reveal this, which I've never done publicly. Outside of scientists. Do you think that that's happened before? A dozen times. Yeah. Okay. I've got an episode on this actually that uh that Ryan and I recorded together and it's it's called The Day the Earth Stood Still and and it's um the Earth Stops Rotating and

and the water comes onto the west coast of every major continent and and it creates, like you said, the scab lands, it creates the desert uh the desertification, the the salinization that we see all over the western half of the United States. It it uh Creates the salt flats that we see in on the west coast of South America. It does what the the striations that we see in Africa, you know, it's it's there's a lot of evidence that a lot of water has come onto the earth from west to east.

When they showed me this I saw it all happen and I saw a vision of all the wildlife. Like back in the the dinosaur days. They were all washed into the Utah, a little basin in Utah and Nevada up through there and they've stacked hundreds of feet deep and bones all mixed up. So there's a concentration of of light that was washed into that place and um

It still smells of death when they dig in the ground out there. I've seen that. Yeah. So this is something that NASA has has discussed with you and studied with you? Yeah. Yeah. And what are they what do they say? Well, Hal told me that um that the scientists in general say the sun can't go supernova. It has to be a solar flare. Uh to make tech the the t the the tick um tech type. These little glass meteorites. What they are is sand that was shot out in the space.

And it's flung out and it comes back and rains in on earth in little globs of green molten glass. Just like the glass they find in the desert in Egypt, right? from extreme heat from this and it created these beads, these little glass beads. So in 57 and 58, NASA created the geophysical year. based on the sun and what they were observing. So immediately they formed NASA right then and they created that postage staff. And so the mission to the moon was for what?

was to dig some dirt and to see if those glass beads were in that dirt. Interesting. Okay. Okay. So do you know what they found? They found them. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. Same with Mars. And they knew that the atmosphere was blown off of Mars. Same way. Yeah, they're detectite. And you see the one that looks like a dumbbell, how that took that shape.

Is that uh the velocity it was coming into earth, still molten, it was rotating, spinning so fast that it creates that Wow. Dumbbell look. Wow. That's crazy, man. That's crazy. It's crazy. So those are glass. If you look at'em, this is green glass. And it's just pure sand that came from So So what other kind of exclusives are you gonna reveal on this on this podcast? And and uh studying with NASA on the the plasmoids.

I would never say that. Because they would you know, I should say NASA, but with scientists from NASA, right? Right, right, right. And um So twelve years ago I'm sitting down in Cape Canaveral with scientists trying to explain to them why they're shooting our rockets out of space. Okay. I wanted to know why that why this happened. I saw videos of these

Craft fly in and take out a rocket, shoot it out, more than one. And they're like, Why do you reckon they're doing that? Why you know and I'm like, Why do you name me? You you got astronauts, you got space shuttles and Space stations and telescopes and they're like, Well, we see it. Constantly. In fact it harasses their astronauts. But it has nothing to do with us. It don't want to talk. Uh we don't know what it wants, so we know it likes you.

And we'd like to know what it wants. So that started my study with NASA for years without going public and telling the world. They would have had my head if I did. So But it was about these plasmoids that ten, twelve years later they're just now talking about. But they'd been dealing with them for years.

So why w they're they're shooting w w were these things that they're shooting out of the sky were were where we were armed? Or they were they nuclear capability? They were shooting our rocket cell. Yeah. They were the one I saw, I asked'em. They asked me why that rocket was disabled. I said, Did you have weapons on that thing? It said it wasn't live, but it was a mock nuclear warhead. I said, Well there's your ants.

They come down and turn'em off on the ground. What makes you think you're gonna shoot'em up there? Right. And was that the whole was that the conclusion of the of your your time with'em? That pretty much. Yeah. Okay. Okay. So how long were you how long were you um st uh just working with them? Well I'm still connected. Still, yeah. Okay. Okay. And are you still finding this week a conversation with people from JPL. From where? JPL.

At propulsion laboratories. And um what are you what are you guys I mean, figuring out, what are you discussing at this point? Well, we're past a lot of that now. Um One of their chief scientists is uh without revealing his name. He works at JPL. He's doing the Ford to my next book. Okay. And he's uh He's ready to tell what he knows. He's seventy one years old and it's like, you know, I've had a long career here, forty years and I wanna help you tell

So that's where I'm at with him now, working on my next book. Okay. Trying to Nice. So he's gonna actually speak some truth about what NASA knows? Uh well we'll see. Okay. We'll see how much he goes into. Right. Yeah. Okay. NASA has all the goods. Yeah. When is your book being released? Hopefully this fall. Good. Good. Okay. I'm working on it. Okay. You're not holding back. I'm lazy right now. No, I'm not holding back. This next book will be

more detailed about things that we're discussing here. Okay. You know? Okay. And more of what I think um, more about the lady and my studies about her and some other details that things that are happening now currently. You know, we're looking at making a movie, so we'll probably put some about that in there. So Okay. Yep, nice, nice. Yeah, can you reveal can you reveal any details about the movie yet? No. Okay. Yeah. No. Yep. Same. Yep. Good. Good.

Okay, so you're on this craft and they're showing you this they're showing you a war and the and and you've seen also they've shown you this this supernova type of event on this craft. Um what they they they you you flew over the pyramids. Yep. They showed me this is strange because the first the in oh eight when they took me, I saw the pyramids from above. We were oh seven. Yeah, in oh seven when they took me. We were up at elevation looking at three pyramids and the sphinx.

and the rest of Egypt and i it revealed a lot to me about uh the nature of animals and connection with their uh with humanity, nature, how um this whole thing is more nature oriented than we understand. It's like the deities in Egypt, they were all d animals, birds, forces of nature, meaning

that the spirit world can come into our world and interact with us in the form of our animals and birds. And they do it all the time. And uh But I never put the the message together or never understood the significance of seeing the pyramid in the Sphinx until twenty twelve, five years later when the lady came. And that's when she revisited I got to see this whole thing again.

And then she told me what I was looking at. Why about this alignment in twenty twenty six. Yeah, do you wanna fast was there anything w we can fast forward to twenty twelve for sure and and cover that component of of the story. But but was there anything between uh two thousand and seven and twenty twelve that's that's worth um explaining? There was just so much to happen then. Those five years were a battle. The worst. It's still not easy, right? I'm still get caught all kinds of things.

Um, especially by the church, you know, not necessarily mine but all over. You know, but um But that's gotta be getting better, I would think. A lot better. I mean people even within the church now it seems like people are opening opening up to it and and actually attempting to claim the the the phenomenon as biblical. Biblical. And it is. Yeah. Uh I've been m maintaining that for eighteen years, no matter what anybody's these orbs are biblical. What is it? We don't know yet.

But we know it's the same thing that they were writing about. Two thousand years ago. Right, right. So the same thing that's in the Bible but

But you've you've you've you've you've made a shift in your life from religious to spiritual. Exactly. So And I guess part of that i is because of the way that the church treated you after this, but but the major part of it I would assume is because uh you've you've you've you've connected with with so many spiritual beings and and you've kinda come to the realization tell me if I'm putting words into your mouth, but but you've kinda come to the realization that this is not a

a phenomenon that is associated with one specific religion that it's a a global spiritual phenomenon. Exactly. Yeah. In fact, um I get accused all the time of being because of my book title, um, A Religious Not, uh, he's just making it about Jesus. Well, they couldn't be more further from the truth in that I have um I think religion is man And man is what's created this scenario that we're in right now with the end of the world looming. It's man that did it. It's not God. It's man.

Man is the evil part, you know. They try to blame the angels or evil. They caused all well it's man that caused it all. It wasn't man's the one that sins. I had to say that because I get angry. Everybody wants to blame the angels. It's the fallen angels. Well, no, it's not the fallen angels. If you read Jude chapter six in the Bible, it tells you plain as day.

that the angels that left their position of authority and came down to earth are locked in chains until the judge day of judgment. So the fallen angels are locked away according to the Bible. If you believe in the Bible, you can't cherry pick. You gotta believe what it says, right? And that's what it says. So that eliminates the fallen angel problem. Now we're into demonic spirit, so

And I say that because I've been fighting this within the church for all these years. And they've the old timers are still struggling, but the younger generations will will all change in to way of thinking. But I think that um God in Saudi Arabia Is God in North Carolina or God in Florida? Or god God in Thailand? Or anywhere you go. God is God. You can't invent God.

And then go around killing people because you think you have the skivvy on God. That's the problem. And this is what the lady explained to me. That the whole world's got to stop killing each other over belief. It's all belief. And come together and realize is coming to us now. What is it? You know, how do we embrace this? How do we you know I can talk straight to God myself, and you can too. All of us can.

And that's the point that awakened me away from religion and into the spiritual world is because I know I can connect straight to heaven and get a response, right? And was that a that that shift from the religious world to the spiritual world for you, did that happen at a specific point in time or was that gradual? I I guess the lady had a lot to do with it, obviously. She did. Solidified everything. Yeah. But I knew what I knew, uh, you know, I I'm um I've got a brain block.

I'm back to two thousand seven. I got a brain block and I got the whole community saying you're playing with the devil, you got the devil in your house and my wife's like don't ever talk about it in the house around my children, you're scaring them and So for two years, year and a half, I was in miserable human, trying to figure out what happened, didn't know, but I'm not sick anymore. So I kept thinking something special happened.

Couldn't have been the devil. Why would he have tried to heal me? Why would some alien come and want to heal me? Your Crohn's disease was completely healed after this after your abduction experience. Never again. I went to Chapel Hill University and had my system checked and it's gone. It's not even visible anymore, which is unheard of. But I knew something happened and

I'm sitting back watching my family melt down, my kids coming home crying, school, kids making fun of'em. And so for five years I was a miserable dad, caused all this to my family. alone or not really talking to any my wife or anyone other than my children. And then NASA came in two thousand and eight and that's when things started changing because when when they came

They started they come a lot, you know, like all the time. And they were talking to my children and helping them. And did did they come because of that report that you sent on the tic tac? Yeah. Yeah. Okay. And so they um We were in a place to where my whole family's interacting with scientists from different parts of the government.

And the community said we're crazy, none of it's real, but I couldn't ever speak about what we were doing to even to my family and say, you know, look, so we were in a bad area. And then five years later Easter of twenty twelve. I'd had all I wanted anymore. You know, here I'm Richard Dreyfus with the greatest desire to tell the world, but I'm defeated. The church, the community.

family, everybody had defeated me and I was ready to give up again. But yet I'm healed. And my kids are seeing it with me, my wife. So I went outside and yelled to the sky, I'm not gonna do this anymore, I'm not gonna tell anybody. Even though that's what you want me to do. And I knew they did. I knew it from from the beginning. It was the it was I was obsessed with telling it. And that night at um three in the morning I heard this voice that said arise and it was in a manly deep deep voice.

I heard it loud. Now I jumped up out of bed at three in the morning and there was this Shadowy figure at the end of the bed. More than one. The next thing I know I'm outside fully dressed. What they do to you I don't know, but they can take you and uh kinda like put me in a trance and led me out to the fork. Were these little beings? Big beings? No, there was a tall ones. Tall. Mm-hmm.

And um they but they're shadowy. It's like this misty thing you were describing last night. You see the shadowy kind of movement just there. It's like they're not phased into our world completely. And people think, Oh my God, Jadobans, that's evil. Well no. You know, I haven't been eaten yet and I see'em a lot, right? So, um they led me out to the Dog Kennel where I wrote about this in the beginning of the book. All this is in the book in detail. And so

But that night at nine o'clock I went out and shouted, I'm gonna quit. Three in the morning I hear this voice. Next thing I know I'm at the dog kennel. And they hand me this object. that a lot of people ask me about it. Is this it looked like a Chihuahua dog? that size, with no legs or no head or no tail. It was just a sack of living flesh, bones and felt prickly to my hands like like a hedgehog, maybe.

And it's dark and I got this in my hand, so I drop it on the ground and I hear this voice say, You pick this up, you must keep. So I pick it up and juggling this thing, not knowing what I've got. And so I opened a dog kennel and set it right in the kennel. I was right out at the kennels where it all happened originally, locked it in the door. And within Less than a few seconds.

Um this wind, this blast of air. I mean, it wasn't in the trees, it was localized in front of me. It was like somebody shot me with a s a blower, you know, air blower. And the wind was physical. So it pushed me over backwards. I mean it was so forceful it it knocked me off my feet to my back on the ground and I rolled in my stomach to get up and run.

And there's no more cow. I mean this when this wind blew me over I saw this cow come over me. Cow or bull. Bull. But it you know, it was it was translucent and I could see stars inside its body when it ran over, like up through it. When I rolled in my stomach to get up and run. So I landed on my back. So I roll over, I'm facing behind me. And I'm gonna run'cause I didn't know where this thing went. And um there was no more cow there. There was a woman, this beautiful Glowing white.

dress sparkles in it flowing women and Um, she looked at me and she said, you know why I'm here. Just like that. And I knew I knew because when I went to bed that night I felt defeated. And I shouted out to the heavens, you know, Thank you for healing me, but you've ruined my whole family. My life is worse off now. And I'm saying this to the heavens. When she come that night, she said She said, you can't quit. You gotta do this.

This is your burden you must bear. That's how she said. Your burden you must bear. You have to tell what you know. And if you do, I will help you. I'll help you with witnesses and with uh with uh television and um you'll be able to share us with other people and let you film us with it. And that was in twenty twelve and immediately For the first five years I had no photos, no videos, couldn't get it. Every time I go out and try, my camera would not work or it would malfunction the chip.

I have one camera doesn't work at all. It i it takes melted pictures when you try to use it. Brand new and I pointed it at a glowing golden orb and it fried the camera. But um She said, If you'll do this I'll help you and immediately I began to take videos and I was able to share with family and friends and um than have been for the better part of all these years now, and it's only grown.

in in numbers from one or two orbs in a night to sometimes a hundred a night or a hundred and thirty a night. So the intensity and the interaction is steadily growing. And I wanna talk about the lady in a minute, but backing up to the little gift that you were given that you put inside of the the stall. Um what happened to it? Well yeah, what happened to it but but tell me first, did it was it like a did it Did it feel like skin? Did it feel like feathers? Did it feel like fur? Okay.

like it's not hurting, but it was like spiny or sp prickly. Yeah. And that's when I dropped it. So so Ryan mentioned this to me on the last episode and one of the comments that we got that I thought was brilliant was Could this be like the the pine cone from ancient Egypt that has been depicted in art and on glyphs as a symbol of knowledge?

Um, because this this pine cone is is often yeah, it's often depicted as a as just like a a a a symbol of knowledge in in ancient times and and so bef the the lady. has ties to ancient Egypt. And so I thought that was maybe an interesting kind of a there you go. There it is. Yeah, did it was it anything like that? It felt like a it felt like an animal. Yeah. And I asked her what it was and she told me it was a symbolic of humanity. They had lost its direction.

He didn't know which way to go. It had no h head or tail and humanity it was symbolic of humanity has lost its direction. And without them coming back to intervene and wake us up, we're gonna be lost for for good. Okay, okay. There's a dark force that wants us under complete control. But they told you to keep it.

And y and you put it down. In the kennel, yeah. Yeah, so where'd it go? I went back, it was gone. Wasn't there. Oh no. Friend of mine at CIA said, Man, that was a holographic device. They handed you that and that's what made the lady appear. Oh. Yeah, right. Nothing holographic there. But I've heard that, right.

So any idea why it disappeared, where it went, what happened with it? I have no clue. Yeah. All I know is after she left I woke up laying on the steps at the back of the house. Okay. Okay. Okay. Fully dressed. Uhhuh. It was like and when I woke up I'm like, oh my God, what just happened? Yeah. Yeah. So she was was she communicating telepathically or through her voice? It was telepathically. I never heard a sound from her, but I understood everything she was saying clear as day. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

And um what was her hair like? Was it golden, trans not say translucent, but it was a golden brown This shimmering golden brown. And she didn't have a veil or anything, just this beautiful white dress that come out to her arms and down to the tops of her feet there. And she was flattened this high off the ground. Th about three feet off the ground. Three feet. And and how tall was she?

Four and a half feet. Okay. So seven and a half total? Well, from yeah, from the ground up. She's probably four. She looked taller because she was elevated. Right. And I'm looking up at her actually right here. But she was the bull. She she came in the form. So so So the bull came out and then she appeared. So she was she was it was a it was her announcing herself as, Hey, I am here and this is how I travel via the via this bull but then she took this form of a of a beautiful woman.

Yeah, and let me explain that what you're saying there if is important. Because by appearing as a bull the p wind and the bull was so powerful. Scared me like scared me to death. It happened in an instant. Wind bull It's a stream fear. getting up to run, I'm in flight and now there's this beautiful woman there. So I went from this extreme fear and uh to this, oh my God, you know, to this other side of emotion and

And she's just standing there f floating and looks at me and leans forward and says, Do you know why I'm here? Isn't that just made me just feel the worst in the world. I felt so bad because I'd basically fussed them out and said I'm not doing this anymore and then they sent the boss. I guess they couldn't get it done with me that she had to come.

That's kinda what I think. So she is who? Her name you she's gone by many names. I ask her and she said she had many names. In Egypt she was Hathor and uh Grease, she was like Demeter or Diana, Hera, all these ancient names from around the world. So it's like God, you know, God is God. To me She was the wind. That's what the the physical force from that you can never forget. Seeing something versus feeling it's different. Like seeing that light.

I explained earlier, you can see lights go by, be in your car and one flies by. That's one thing. But when that light flies up and stops and comes to you and says, I see you You're on my radar, the feeling of that is totally different. It be you become very small at that minute and this fear level rises because you're not hiding, you're not a bystander observing. Now you're on its radar. And that's what happened to me on the river.

And with in the broad daylight. It wasn't at night, it was in the day. It was a little after five. And it doesn't get dark after six, right? So I could never get around that ever. And Forever changed me. Do you think that she was a I mean Do you think that she's quote unquote a god or a I mean, she's been she's been someone who's appeared to various cultures throughout time, right? So Mother Earth, Gaia.

Mother Earth. By uh the Holy Spirit. Dude the the definition of spirit, for anybody wanting to know, Google it. It's called the the wind. So a spirit is the wind, right? The Holy Spirit is the breath of God. And I'm not the only one that thinks this. In fact some of my friends in CIA asked me, Do you think she would be the Holy Spirit? And I said, Yeah. Spirit and holy of some kind. So and that's my key to experiencing the phenomenon.

Did I ask her claim you know, if you would send your angels or share your presence. And that's how it comes every time. So so a key to experiencing the phenomenon is specifically asking for her to appear and to show herself? For to show to send her angels. Okay. Yeah. And I do it uh you know, I'm a Christian. I was born and raised one sixty three years. I still believe in the Holy Trinity, the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit. But to me this Holy Spirit is the feminine side.

And don't shoot me, you know, if I'm wrong. Again. It's all speculation. Yeah. Right? Yeah. Yeah. You get it? So this is a battle I fight all the time. People call me an apostate and others are saying oh he's a religious fanatic while the church is Trying to hang me, right. And the UFO world forever is like it's it's it's the they're Pleiadians with the galactic ferret And I'm like, No they're not, it's spiritual. So for the last eighteen years I've been in the middle of nowhere. Yeah.

Yeah. But I think they're all coming around now. Mm-hmm. So So what is her function. She's not God. She's she's not um Sh is she is sh is she kind of the the boss of the the spiritual realm then? I would think that in my thoughts now and I could be wrong, all of us are speculating again. Yeah, of course. From the Pope right on. He don't know any more than The Baptist down the street nuts.

But um I still believe in the Trinity, the Father, the Son, and the Spirit, because the way they present themselves to me in threes and in triangles and in my conversations with NASA and others about this. And some scientists at um very secure locations that I can't say much about, but they're all um To me it's not one. It's it's more like the Mormons believe in three individuals God the Father, God the Mother, God the Son.

And I believe more in that manner. So that's the way I look at it. And when I when I ask in prayer I ask her or Jesus either way to send the angels. So and that's how they come. So so the Trinity and Jesus and and the Holy Spirit and It's v and and you and you just mentioned that you you still consider yourself a Christian. But you but you've also said that you you you believe that you're more spiritual and less religious and and that your thoughts are that it's a one

that God is the same God for for everyone. And and so how does that how do you ha I don't I guess I'm confused then on on that component of it. Like l like if there's Are you saying that the one true God is is everything. Okay. So it's not a Christian program. It's everything. All information would be God. You could never look upon God.

But if God was to send a representation of himself, if he sent Zeus with a lightning bolt, we'd all fall out dead on the ground the minute he appeared'cause it that would just scare you to death. I mean literally it can kill you from fright. If he c if God appeared as a loving mother, which apparently has happened for the last million years. Eight hundred thousand years. I've been studying this with some of the leading scholars in the world.

And they've been uh the first depictions of God as a woman. But so so if beliefs if beliefs are leading to the wars and and identification with religion is leading to the wars that you were shown between Iran and Israel and Syria and all of that and that's that's caused by belief and it's caused by identification with a religion. Um, and w wha how how how is it that you are still Christian, I I guess, as opposed to and and do do you believe that Christianity is is the one true religion?

I I think the religion is a man. I think man is religion. The word religion is man made. It's not about God. But I think that uh the tr the Trinity has been uh recognized in many religions, even in Egypt. Before Jesus was here, there was a triad. The Father, the Mother, and the Son. So how Jesus fits into this, maybe he was here in them days and he came back. Who knows?

But fifty five years of me being in church doesn't my experience with this phenomenon doesn't erase that from me. You could never erase that. In fact I'm closer to that than I ever have been. with the spiritual world. You know. Okay. So do you think that this that the that the that the UFOs the the sp that that they have that Jesus and that the Christianity is is what is the source of

these this phenomenon? No, I think that this phenomenon's been around forever from the beginning and that man has created all these names. Okay. And all these you know like the the bid and monk. They were right. You know, these guys is you know I mean how do we define wrong? How do we define who is wrong? Judgment. And and it shouldn't be that I've got to fear, because I say I believe in Jesus, that somebody's gonna shoot me because of what I believe in.

This is the problem. It's not God. It's not Jesus. It's not whoever it is up there. We're speculating, all of us, until the day we die, we're never gonna know. And um Makes sense. Yeah. I think yeah. It's time we all grow up and we all realize we don't know and maybe we should come together as a world.

and try to figure it out and stop the violence. Yeah. Over speculation. I hope we can do that as long as religion still exists. I hope that that that can happen, that we really can come together as long as there are separate religions that people believe in and separate races that people bec believe in and separate nations that people believe in.

It's really just man made constructs. Exactly. But God is real. Yes. The angels are real. I think that's probably true. Yeah. And however, whoever it is, however it lays out, nobody's right. Everybody needs to come together and and really do our homework and decide that it's real. They've been hiding it from us. Forever.

You know, the church did it. They hid r they hid the truth about this from us. It's priestly business. They're the only ones allowed to do that. Yeah. Yeah. I've been told that more than one time. Yeah. And what you're dealing with is for the priest only. So this lady so so the lady Hat Hathor or whatever her name is, um, she's gone by many names and she gave you this this what's happening and the importance of what's happening because it has the potential to change our future.

Um and and she gave you this um she gave you a specific date, a specific point in the future uh that was around Easter of twenty twenty six. Yeah, and and here's the strange thing. For the first five years I was saying it was in September. Always thought it was in the fall equinox. Of twenty six. Yeah. From when we when I was first contacted, when I first wrote about this. Um, I wrote about this alignment thing in twenty twelve.

And I put the word out to some literary agents and different people and government and they ran this star chart and it came back originally as the fall and then it came back from somebody else called me and said, No, it's the spring. So what is it, fall or spring, I don't really know. But I don't think it's gonna be a day that it's gonna the whole world's gonna say, Oh my God, this was just a special day. I think it's gonna mark

Like the eclipse did. That eclipse was very powerful. I saw a major change when the eclipse happened. Look at the orbs coming into the world. Hugely. That's when it all started. The eclipse in April. I went from filming thirty orbs a day to a hundred. After the eclipse. It's just that massive amount coming out of the ocean. I was filming them coming out of the ocean for years now.

But uh you couldn't have saved one for last night? I mean I it was just the worst weather, right? It was. And I tell you something about that with me. I never felt it all day. 'Cause I dreaded the weather all day and I never felt it. And if I don't feel it it ain't gonna happen. This is an emotional It's a connection. Yeah. It's all emotional. We know this because of scientists studying my brain. They can tell that

B oh uh during we we did this on television, the first ever in history, and nobody's saying anything. But the scientists that were there said, Oh my god, this is the first contact. in history. I did it on TV with the history channel with a helmet on my head with scientists sitting at a monitor observing, right? And so they knew that my I was communicating with that orb. When it flew by. And it flew right by us very close.

I mean real close. So so the alignment that she told you about then with with Regulus, can you can you walk us through that? Yeah, she said um She showed me that vision again that I had in oh eight. Oh seven, when I was over the pyramid. Oh eight I remembered it right. I could see the so I get to see this whole vision again that they She reminded me of that vision, I might would say. I dunno not since she took me there, but I remembered from O seven. And she said Trouble's coming.

And she showed me the alignment and she showed me the nuclear exchange. It was a nuclear exchange between Israel and Iran. And she said that this does not have to happen. But when we get to this point, this is when We're gonna come back. And when when the rockets left I saw the whole sky light up with orbs just started appearing in thousands in the sky.

And that's when I was pulled back and I couldn't see anything past that. So what happened? I felt like they stopped it. But she said, When you see this, um said that uh if they didn't come back there wouldn't be anything left. and that we could change it all, that by They could they can touch your heart. They can change you from the inside out. They don't matter how much Trump or Biden or any of them get up and try to

to unite the people. There's been so much division. It's it's completely off the charts worldwide. They've intentionally divided this planet. Bringing foreigners in and you know, and putting them in in situations where people d you see it. It's all over. It's in England, it's everywhere. Why are they doing that? Why? And it's sta it's it's un it's destabilizing our collective conscience to fear. So everybody's living in fear. And she can change that or the phenomenon can change your heart.

The only thing can save us, it's not man. They can get peace for a little while but they're gonna fair it'll be right back at it again, as long as man is in rule. You get it upset and it becomes violent. So but the the exact message that she said about about Regulus aligning in the gaze of the Sphinx. in what's the one. She said when that happened there will be a shift in consciousness, a new knowledge. And what that means I don't know other than I think it's probably disclosure.

Disclosing of truth. And that truth could be much bigger than just being alone or not being alone. It could be exposing some really bad players. That's created a lot of stress and Suffering for people. And Leo, of course, is is what would uh Leo the Regulus is the star that's at the heart of Leo, the lion. Yep. But

She came in the form of a bull. Right. But so does that tell us that the that the the star formation that we're seeing is actually not a lion, that it's a bull? No, no. The the the sphinx is a lion. With the head of the king, the return of the king. So the Sphinx is sitting there on the desert floor watching for the eastern glow when that little king, the star of Regulus, is called the Little King, the return of it, when it returns.

And the gaze of the Sphinx, right on the horizon, you know, it's touching the sand before the sun comes up will mark a shift in consciousness or a new knowledge. And so That's all I can give you there. Yeah. You know, I'm I'm I don't know what it means. And I didn't know when the date was other than she told me this riddle.

that I gave to the experts and they said it was two different days, right. So which one do I believe? Mm. The e the but but each of the equinoxes, the two equinoxes, the fall and the spring equinoxes. Yeah. shift and the phenomenon on the equinoxis. It always increases. Okay. Easter, fall, and especially Christmas. But Easter's the biggest one. Well, I don't know, but it's always

like off the charts to interaction. Okay. Yeah. Christmas is the winter solstice. Yeah. Yeah. All that matters to to this. Anything on the summer solstice? I mean you got the two equinoxes in the winter solstice? But Easter and Christmas seems to be the two

biggest times of activity. So if you're religious you'd say Easter and Christmas. If you're spiritual you'd say the spring solstice and the spring equinox and the winter solstice. You heard me say the equinox is what I thought it was. Yeah. I'm not religious. Yeah. But I'm very spiritual and I know that you know, when Jesus came, when he came to earth, um They killed him because he says you can talk straight to God. You don't need to pay anybody. They didn't like what he said so they killed him.

And so and now they demonized it to the worst thing in the world. And all he was trying to say is you can talk straight to God if you Why are you paying now? You know, you don't need to pay for it, it's free. Yeah, God is within. Yeah, and so is within that's all I'm saying. Yeah. You can talk straight to God and to the heavens and it will respond to you. Now before it wouldn't, but now after that equinox shifted, everything shifted. And you're gonna see it's not gonna stop.

It's gonna get greater and greater until our countries are forced to to to admit it. Mm-hmm. So are we in the which are we in Pisces right now? We shifted into Aquarius. We're in Aquarius. And the uh it's my belief during the eclipse. Okay. Yep. Okay. That marked a change. Immediately I saw huge difference in what I was seeing, the type of activity we're seeing and how it began to interact with us. And and I knew it. The Age of Pisces into the S. Okay. So yeah, Pisces being like um

Yeah, Pisces the sign of the fish. Yes. It was Jesus. Right. When he was born they gave him the sign of the fish. Right. When we were when the Leo age they made the sphinx. Right. When we were in the equ uh Aries the Ram, they had the the bull the the the golden fleece in Greece, they had ram sphinxes in Egypt, you know, got ram bodies. You had Abraham and the Ram and the Bush, it was all about Aquarius. And then you go into Taurus the bull. Everybody was worshiping cows.

A lot still do, but those ages are very important and uh and we're move moving into this it's more of a defined uh a a a divine feminine age uh uh Aquarius. Yes. So Gotta bring about the peace I think to to Earth. This is what she explained to me that the the m the m paternal or the the man has run uh run the world for two thousand years and

One thing she said is if you get that spirit upset, it becomes violent. But we were gonna shift it to a the feminine age and that that um will bring about peace. To this world. So have you had any additional experiences with the lady? the last full blown encounter other in seeing her as a ball of light or an orb, you know, that telepathically says so, but to see her in full version Uh I haven't never seen her since like twenty twelve. She looked like you, full blown in

But in twenty nineteen So she was beautiful. Yes. Yeah. Go. Yeah. Just kidding. Go ahead, go ahead. Twenty nineteen. Um twenty nineteen she came. And it was around Easter. It's like on Friday night. Or no, Monday night after Easter. I walked outside and I was at that time I was so sick with rheumatoid arthritis I was down I was I had gone down the hill too well if I went anywhere I was in a wheelchair, unable to walk.

That was twenty s twenty nineteen. I walked outside and we live on a little pond, you know, it's right behind the house, ten feet behind the back door. I opened the back door and uh when I did this orb way up appears real high and bright and starts flashing. And start spiraling down and came all the way to the ground on the other side of the pond and stopped and there it is on the other side, about fifty yards away, bouncing up and down ten feet high. And I can purely say Uh translucent figure.

with the orb now is inside the figure going up and down. Very tall. And it came across the pond. It just saw it sat there for a minute and then it came to me. And I started getting nervous because it was coming at me and I'd been told a thousand times by NASA and other scientists, Don't touch'em, don't let'em touch ya. If you if they touch you it can kill you. The energy from'em would kill ya.

create all kinds of problems, injuries and all. So I started praying, Lord keep me safe, but I'm not afraid. And this beautiful glowing figure comes up. I couldn't see details of the face, only a translucent figure. And she said or it said, trouble's coming. Tell everybody to lock their doors and stay inside until it's over At from this point forward, uh we've shifted into a time of trouble, she said.

And that before it gets better it's gonna get worse and that we're going to start appearing in big numbers around the world and we're gonna allow you to share a now, you know. She told me in twenty twelve it was just i it wasn't nothing like happened in twenty nineteen. When twenty nineteen happened, it went completely off the charts. COVID hit.

I was on chemotherapy then and um about twenty seven thousand dollars a month worth of drugs that the doctor had me on, giving myself shots in the stomach and um A friend of mine called me from D C and said, If you get covered you're gonna die. You need to get off of COVID, off of that medication and told me, go tell your doctor.

to give you Plaque Winnell and to take you off all that other. And I did that. And somebody in CIA told me that. And so I went to the doctor and said, my friend told me to to get off this medication and put me on Plaquenil. And he gladly did it. He said, Yeah, I've been treating rheumatoid with that is for eighty years now.

And immediately I started getting better. And I went from a wheelchair to remission in less than a year off of a pill that's called hydroxychloroquine. That's four dollars a month. So that was what happened when this angel came, or this being, the lady, whoever it was in twenty nineteen. started this chain of events that that and it was twelve years to the day. My friend Jim told me that he said, We don't know why But we know one thing is common in all experiences.

He said, We've been filming, we've been studying for years. a hundred and fifty people in the government. Nobody knows about. He said one thing common in all hundred and fifty. Not one, but all. is that after twelve years, somehow or another, everybody received these huge blessings. And they became department leaders and heads in their departments and uh it happened on all, a hundred and fifty, not one, but all and we don't know why that is.

And he told me that at my house in twenty sixteen when uh I was really sick. He said, When is twelve years? I said, Twenty nineteen. 2019, this thing comes out of the sky, this beautiful being. Within six months I'm able to walk. Within a year I'm in remission. And in that tw in that year blessings started happening to the whole family, to my all my children. I mean, huge blessings that um we had struggled all those years, you know, with nothing. And um Just the greatest thing from

having this experience with us it this being to being able to walk again and to see all my kids get offers, you know, we want you as a data scientist at East Carolina University because you were top in your class. Well You know, twenty six year old boys getting a six figure job, you know, and and then my daughter, NYU, calls her and says, We want you to teach for us music while you do your masters here. And she was worried about, you know, how she was gonna pay her Or um

debts and all. And so during the worst struggle in the family, it all immediately when that happened, blessings started. And it hasn't stopped. It's still going. But any other big events since then that have happened? Any any big I mean y I know that you've interacted with and seen A lot of stuff. But anything else from uh you know From the uh the paranormal side? From the yeah, yeah. Well, yeah. It's it's it never ceases to amaze me. I mean, um How

But just increasing. I I can't get across to you how crazy it steps up in intensity over eighteen years. And when that eclipse happened It went from twenty or thirty orbs in a night to a hundred. What do you think's going on in New Jersey? Like that that whole situation. What's what's going on there? Well, I'm gonna tell you straight up, you know, the the drones are ours.

Yeah. I don't care what they say. Yeah. They're ours. And if somebody that's running our country can't tell you who they are, they don't need to be there. Come out and get somebody that does. You know, this is how serious this thing is. But I know they're ours, I know they're military, uh sure of it.

I have a friend that lives in New Jersey that um sent me a video of one he filmed coming over his house and when he went in and grabbed a laser, a little laser pointer, and shined it on the side of it when it went over and thirty minutes the FBI was at his house. To whose drawn is it? It's ours. If you do that to an airliner going across, I advise you not to, but that airliner, seven hundred seven at forty thousand feet, can track that laser right back to you that quick and they do it.

It's illegal. There goes my weekend plans. Yeah. So I know they're hours. Why they're saying they're they don't know whose they are is they're trying to, in my opinion, confuse the public. Yeah. Okay. So so the drones are ours, but is there why why are they there? Is uh are the orbs are they chasing the orbs? Are they looking for I think the orbs are watching what the drones are doing. Okay. I think the drones are uh May Maybe up to something. What? I have no clue.

Um, I've heard rumors that they're looking for nuclear material. Yeah, that one made some sense. I heard that from somebody in the State Department. Okay. So I have a lot of connections and this came from the top, right? That's what they're doing. And then right after I heard that a friend calls me and said, D the FBI came to my door. He said they friggin' track me to the very spot I was standing. Wow. That's what he told me. Wow. So what are they? Who the drones or or man made. The orbs are

From up there. And uh what are they? I call them angels for a reason. What does that word mean? Well I can tell you to me the reason I use that word. If I said alien. The millions of people that would hear that word automatically think E. Ch. They think some being from some faraway place. uh coming here to kill us, to hurt us, to whatever, right? Hollywood has made E. T. pretty well. But if I say Angel, people think, you know, grandma with wings, you know, or little babies with wings. Well

According to the Bible, angel means messenger. Messenger from who or what? And there are many different ones and um They listen to your thoughts. They're connected to our us, our heart. This I know for sure because of the eighteen years of data that I've been recording on data for eighteen years. And I have talked with thousands of people that

That will say, Hey Chris, I want to tell you my story. I can show you my phone right now. A hundred people have written me this probably this month. A hundred. And they write long letters. Some of'em are b autobiographies you would think. And I welcome it and I, you know, try to help everybody understand. But they don't want to tell the the authorities or smooth on or anything. But it's always the same, Matt, every time I ask'em.

Uh the you know, this lady eighty years old comes up and says, Uh, it had this ball of light fly by the kitchen window and scared me to death and it came in the window and went through the house and down the hall. I hear you the gotta tell me what. You're you're supposed to be an expert in this and I'd always say, Okay, Miss John, tell me about yourself when you saw that orb, what was happening with you. And they'll always say, My husband died.

My daughter died, my mama died, my dad died, always loss, suffering, heartache. near death experience. So that rules out the Galactic Federation in the Pleiades. So the physical alien thing is out the window when it comes to this. This is more spiritual and connected somehow to where it cares about our being, our well being. So that's why I call it angel, because it's totally different than alien. And what m my swim lane is not with alien. Mine's with

These orbs and these balls of light. Do you think that the that the the the gray alien phenomenon is real? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. It's just separate. Separate. And if you look at the Bible Description of angels, right? What does it tell ya? Ezekiel, the Will Within the Will. Everybody's heard of Ezekiel, the Will Within the Will. But they never read it. They just hear about it, but they never read the story. But if you read it it tells about these

revolving balls of light. Spinning, rotating balls of fire, comes down and lands and he says, And I walk between'em. And when I did, outsteps an angel. And this angel was a creature. They had a face of a lion, a face of an eagle, a face of an ox, and one face of a human. So it was three parts. creature and one part human. So who's most important here? We all are, including every living thing on the planet. And just like that. You see the ball, the light, the orbs.

It's not a fallen angel. They're locked away. It's not the devil. It's not a demon. There would be non physical spirits that attach to your thoughts and possess the spirit. It's these beings from heaven that are more advanced that are watching us. But when it comes to the details I can't tell you any more other than I'm connected to it and we all are.

If you believe it and you have the faith, you can interact with it. If you doubt it and you're a negative person, you'll never interact with it. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Yeah, it makes sense. A next decent place to go to might be um I wanted to ask you about the To the Stars Academy. Okay. And and your experience there.

Well, um, I was there from the foundation of that thing. I saw it happening. I knew you know, I was friends with with one of the owners there before they ever created the thing. And um friends with Tom DeLong and they tried to to to get me to be a part and At that time I I wasn't interested. And so, you know, I had other things going.

And who was the own who was the owner or founder that you were friends with? Uh Tom DeLong, Blink One Eighty Two, Rockstar, and uh group of other guys, Jim Timmy Van and uh there was Chris Mellon. And um I think Lou Elizondo was in that and Steve Justice. Excuse me, was there? And Jim Semivan was that was he left the the CIA in oh seven and went to start this with those guys? They didn't start to the stars until like twenty fifteen. Oh really? Okay. Twenty sixteen. Okay.

Gotcha, gotcha. So that was you know, I was eating lunch with Jim at a pizza place in Fayetteville with uh Jim and Debbie and some of my kids when he got a phone call about Tom and um that was the he didn't even know him then and I heard him fussing um, the guy on the phone about how he knew certain things and anyhow it went from there to being formed into to the stars and I had a full offer to be a part.

No, I just kind of backed out from it. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Yeah, what was it what was your experience like there? Uh with them? Yeah. What what were they trying to to get you to to do or connect? Well, I think I think that Tom wanted to to b to buy my life rights and create a movie by it and he wanted to control the meme to it and I'm like, No if if I tell this story we're gonna tell it my way. I'm not gonna

And w however he was gonna portray it, I don't know, right? But I wanted that control. Okay. And that's why I published the book myself. I didn't publish with Random House or any of them because I didn't want nobody having my life rights. Okay. Uh retained them that way. Gotcha, gotcha. Yeah, Ryan Ryan came on uh a couple of months ago and and w mentioned that they were trying to

Uh they were trying to let's just say they had a darker outlook of it than I wanted to be a part of. Very dark. And why? Why would they do that, do you think? Um I'm not saying they're government. But I'm saying there's a lot of government around it, right? And I can tell you the common thing I've heard and been involved with is government's afraid of this thing.

They don't know what it is, they don't know how to deal with it, and they don't want us dealing with it.'Cause they think they may lose control over humanity, which from a government standpoint, I mean that's valid I guess to say.

So they're gonna look towards making it more dark and negative than it being what I'm saying it is, you know. And all I'd say is follow the evidence. You know, believe believe what you wanna believe, but believe based on evidence. That's how a court works. And the government's been telling us seventy, eighty years we have this, we have that, we've got this, we've got that, we've got bodies, we've got machines, we've got all this. But in eighty years we haven't seen anything.

But everybody believes they got all this, but you're never gonna see any of it, ever. They will never share it. So d while I'm saying is follow The evidence. So do you do you not think that there's a crash retrieval program and that we have bodies and it's possible if they have it and I've been involved in that and I've heard all kind of things. But you're never gonna see it. They can't.

It's not possible. For one, where the where it would be located is held within the grasp of the National Reconnaissance Office, most likely. CIA, the Air Force. and NASA all three. What a get when it's tangled up into three major org you know divisions. You've got to get all three to agree to declassify this, and it takes more than an act of Congress.

It would take something on a scale of something we've never seen just to get the Air Force to agree to declassify it. Then you got two other companies, two, you know, the CIA and NASA, they're not gonna do it. They can't. So you're never gonna see anything, you're just gonna hear words. We have this, we have that. You know, we made this based off of that. So you've given up hope on knowing whether how much truth is behind the I believe in seeing is believing.

Though I don't believe in what people tell me. You know, you say you got a body, let's see it. You got a flash a crash flying saucer, let's see it. They do have metal that I and I've had metal from orbs dripping off of orbs. And they brought a piece of metal to me that that um they tested me with and and it kinda like electrocuted me. But um Do you still have that or I don't. They they took my medal and classified it. Said you're not getting it back. Just chalk it up for the country.

Well that was the words they told me. Yeah. But yeah, I don't believe. Uh you know, I want to believe. But, you know, I I I want to see. You know, show me the body, show me the flying machine. And then and and if they have all this, and they've had it for fifty years. Then you've got to have a whole lot of people that's made a whole lot of money off of it. working within the government and I know some that have made millions and millions.

studying this kind of stuff. So is that fair to to give it all to one little group of people to reap from it and hide it from the world? I think if that could be a problem for'em. I don't think they'll ever tell it. Not and show you something. I think they'll tell it, We have this, we have that. They got all these whistleblowers that come out. That says I saw a UFO fly by.

You know, that's one thing. But you got others saying, I saw a piece of paper, I heard somebody say, uh I witnessed this guy telling this guy this. It's always I heard somebody or I seen saw something. is um plausible deniability. And um So you gotta believe what they say without evidence. Mm-hmm And that don't work in court nowhere. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. So

So the whistle blowers that are that are coming out and um the and and apparently there's more whistleblowers on the way. They might even be out by the time this episode's release next week. Um thoughts on on them. Or are they gonna say, I worked for this, I worked on this, here's what it looks like, here's a drawing of it and gives more than I saw or I met somebody, you know.

They've gotta get away from that. You know. I saw a document sitting on somebody's desk that said, We have a flying machine. Well It's so difficult to understand who you can believe in this in this phenomenon. It it really is. It's uh it's one of the most frustrating things about the phenomenon is you don't know who is

a CIA operative, you know, who is a disinformation guy who's a lot of them. Who yeah, who's there to who's been hired by them to spread disinformation and to create a narrative and to just kinda capture people in their own just whatever in their own it it's it's it's very It's very challenging and so when I hear you talk about the um the the to the stars guys and the the um you know, the uh the whistle blowers and and um

You're right. It's difficult to know who to believe, you know, who has ties to the CIA, who's who's um you know, what what what's the reason for um coming out and and the the narrative that we're hearing different people push. There's uh there's a whole group of people in the government that don't want it told. And there's a group that does. And um I found out the ones that don't want it told are involved with it and probably making money off of it in some way.'Cause I know some that do.

And what do you mean what do you mean there? Well, science. You know. Science, experiments, medical devices. Um, and a lot more. Anti-gravi levitation, you know, if they anything they'd glean from it, somebody's uh somebody's benefiting from it. And it's not the public. Mm-hmm.

Do you think that the guys like uh that are that are so like uh Lou Elizondo, um, i is that for y in your in your mind, is that just straight up disinformation? I lose a friend of mine. Okay. Um You know, and um you think he's he's telling the truth and I think Lou's a good guy. And I've known him a long time. And um I think he is under the whistleblower rules, meaning he can't say what he wants to say. And um I think he was the first one groomed to be in that position.

He was groomed to be where he is. He didn't just fall into that spot. It was a long time coming to get there. And there again, no evidence. Show us the goods, show us the body, show us the machine. You know, give us his ink pen or his whatever they carry, you know, show us a hat or a shoe or something. But all this we have, we seen, we saw, I saw a document. I don't believe in

Words, I wanna see the the the the data. And with the orbs you can see'em. And I've been saying for all these years they're gonna come when you see Iran and Israel going at it, which they are, and all of a sudden orbs are everywhere.

And I'm uh everybody knows I've said that, right? Now now he did r get help to get some of those videos released, so I mean that's kind of a a uh sh like showing showing people at least in in twenty seventeen when that article came out in the New York New York Times with the with the uh the gimbal and the Tic tac video and the go fast, I guess, is um Yeah, see there again, the declassifying those Lou couldn't share what he wanted to share.

I mean, if he could share, I mean, more people would believe, but they limit him to to crappy videos. Those videos he shared are are on the low end of the scale, what they should have. I'm hearing to have detailed, very clear videos, evidence up close. Like flying right alongside the plane. Where's that? You'll never see it. Right, right. If they have it, show it and that would end it all. But Lou can't do it because he don't have the authority to do it. All he can do is I saw, I did, I saw.

No, so he's restricted into what he can do. So how do we how do we wha in terms of disclosure then and and and like the like what what's your what are your thoughts on the disclosure movement? and the stage of the disclo i if it even exists, and the stage of the disclosure movement that we're currently in. Well, uh we can look at it from up there down.

Um, disclosure's been happening for f seventy years. The way they want it to happen. Aliens with star cruisers and ray guns and you know, this kind of thing. With no evidence. But um I think from a a mile high view that it's a progressive movement and they've been grimming us for fifty years with all sorts of other things involved that leads into this same thing.

Like, you know, animal mutilation, people missing in state parks, all that they slowly but surely tying it into this UFO alien coming and getting people, eating us and eating our cows. That's what you're gonna probably hear at some point if they get the nerve to do it. I think that the government has a hard time with credibility anymore. Nobody wants to believe'em as a whole. So they've got a hard Way to go, doing disclosure.

They will have a hard time at it.'Cause nobody wants to hear the negative. Nobody wants to hear there's a there's no such thing as God, only aliens that eat people and they eat little girls. I've heard this in briefing. Which was six People trying to come up with this thing to tell to the public.

This is what Ryan mentioned that the to the scars guys said about the the eating dr uh slitting a little girl. I can't even say this on YouTube, but but but that that's that's the narrative that they were attempting to push. Yeah. Yeah. That it was gonna be slanted evil or dark, so we wouldn't mess with it. Mm-hmm. And I've took the high road and said, No, thank you.

I'm not selling my soul to no one. I'm gonna tell it the way I experience it. I don't go to these UFO shows and involve myself with all these other people. So I don't take on their I wanna be true to me and and for eighteen years I've been a loner. studying with scientists and uh I've had congressmen at my house, senators, all have seen this with me. And um Uh, yeah. So I I'm doing I'm doing what I know and sharing

I'm just started sharing. I've been hiding. Uh it's like I have a new camera. I got it in April. Everybody hounded me, You need a new camera, you need a new camera. Well finally got one in April and didn't use it until June'cause I was travelling all over the country. And July, July fourth. Went up to Annapolis and threw my camera out on the back deck of uh my friend's house and uh

Started filming orbs in the daytime. And I have close to seven hundred videos with high definition camera and I've only released a half a dozen. So I've just taken my time and preparing to get'em coming out of the orb. And full belong glory. What I think's gonna happen. Is is there anything that's more than just that you've recorded that's more than or that that's like like what's the most compelling um thing that you have captured that you haven't shown yet? There's just so much compelling, um

And and if I did show some of these videos it wouldn't do it justice. That's what I mean. Like like what's the is is there one video that would do justice? Like like'cause anybody can debunk an orb or can can be skeptical about like a a random video, but is there some like what's the best video evidence that the the single one video Beans walking, beings coming out of orbs, um I have it on video. Can we show that on the can you send us that? We'll talk about that.

I I might do the one with the V being coming out of the orb, but I have another one. Of a full blown twenty four inch or Twenty eight inch being that appeared on camera and walked up to where I was standing and flashed and turned around and walked back to the camera. You have that on video. I have it on video. And have you released that yet anywhere? Nobody's noticing it. Is that something we could show potentially? You know how old that video is?

How long I've had it? Since tw two thousand and fifteen. Wow. That's what I'm saying for all these years I haven't been posting. Yeah.'Cause I've been under duress. People telling me you can't you you don't need to post. You're getting in front of the government, you're doing disclosure. We wanna do disclosure. You're gonna have to wait. Uhhuh. Who's saying that? Well, just certain people Yeah, within the government. So I've held back and just studied and

gathered the data and I've got it all in big hard drives, several of'em. Mm-hmm. Let's find some stuff. Let's let's find some good a couple of good quality videos and and show some people the some stuff that that you haven't released yet. One of my one of my hard drives has twenty two thousand videos and photos on it.

Okay. Eighteen years of it doing it. So Yeah. But it's like it's like what you were just saying about these other people where it's like, Show me the evidence. Now I'm now I'm asking you, you know, show me the evidence. So th and that helps, you know, uh telling people You wanna see it, you can see it. Right. You wanna you and and I don't wanna tell anybody you're playing with you're messing with Jesus, you're messing with Buddha, you're messing with this, that or that. Yeah. I'm telling you

That it comes because of suffering, it comes because of trauma, it comes because of near death experience. And um that takes it out of the alien category and it it um It comes to me with prayer. So all that don't add to a Pleiadium with a ray gun. I just asked in in the name of the The Holy Spirit or the the Father and the Son and the Holy Spirit. I d I've never changed in the way I prayed for 63 years.

And I'm not gonna change now'cause it still works. And it's what brings it. I just see the Trinity in a different way. Instead of it being one that you don't understand what it means. Does as this mother That has always been here, that came to the Greeks, that came to the Egyptians, that came to the Indians and and Wyoming. Yeah. Yeah. The white Buffalo Catholic. She always come just before danger to warn the people. Fatima. Is she came to warn the people, right? And um

It's always that way. Yeah. But who is she? Yeah. Right? I don't know that. So it's a it's a challenge that I've gotta give you for when you go back home prior to when this episode airs is to um don't be like those people that you're describing that that that say I know a guy who saw something you got you gotta s you gotta send me something. Yeah, yeah. Promise you. Good, good. Appreciate it. And some high definition stuff. Good, good. Love it. Love it. Yeah. Oh I got one finally.

Well good, yes. So so then where were we? I mean it's kinda You know, I guess it's I I think I get a general sense for your thoughts on the overall phenomenon versus the uh the the spiritual component of your phenomenon. So I think I think we've covered that. That pretty well. Um we're talking about disclosure from uh top down Yeah, yeah, yeah. How it's gonna go and Yeah. I think Trump will try to a j uh to to say It's real. But he's gonna base his findings on what everybody tells him.

He's good at that. I mean, he works his people and he listens to his advisors, but how much do they know? Right. What are they gonna share? Right. And without evidence, it's gonna be it's like shooting a blank You know, everybody's like, oh my God, the whole world's gonna fall apart. I was in DC not long ago in a meeting with congressmen.

with heads of the Pentagon and others and they asked my thoughts on this. What would it what's people like if we tell this? Are the people gonna freak out? And I said, No. I said you can get out you can have President Biden tomorrow. Get on T V, show a video of a UFO landing on the White House lawn. He gets out and shakes his hand. The whole world knows. And tomorrow morning Matt and myself and everybody else will get up and go to work.

Feed the family. It'd be over in one day. But who the problem will be with? It's not Matt and me and the average people. It's the academic world. The academic world all of a sudden doesn't have enough education, certain ones, to teach the classes they're teaching. So it becomes a problem with changing, rewriting all the books. Evolution has to go away. The Big Bang all has to go away.

So something much greater created it all. Something wrote this program. It didn't pop into existence through a mud puddle or by an accident. That's the biggest. Craziest thing I've ever heard. And the Big Bang and All that evolution. Okay. So evolution not not real. Okay. Can't be. Okay. And why is that? Because Follow I follow John Lennox and Dr. James Tour from Rice University. James is a organic chemist.

One of the smartest people on earth. He's rated number in the top forty smartest people on the face of the earth. And he plainly says that the chemicals involved in creating life could never happen. outside a controlled environment. And to this point nobody can figure out how they did any of it. You they c the creationists say, Oh, we can make life and attest to it. Yeah, right.

You might can get chemicals already created and mix them together and create something that moves about, but you can't create the chemicals that creates the life. This is what James Tour says. So it's the the more we learn, the less they know. How old do you think the the universe is? Who knows? Forever. I think this earth has been through thousands of cycles to where people come here and it's gone.

And and all sorts of crazy different life forms. Look at the the s the the dinosaurs with bugs, you know, dragonflies with three feet wingspan. Where were they? When did they come? You hear about giants in the land in those days. They were here when everything was giant, right? There comes this sunstorm, fries the earth, starts all over again. Something had to start it over again. Something

became creative to create these different life forms and some of it has humor, I think. Yeah. When they create these things. So when you see something like you see a a dinosaur bones or dinosaur skeletons. Okay. So when when you see like the the whales that washed up or or that that we find in the desert of Egypt that have those they have like feet in the back of'em and

And then you see modern whales that don't have the feet. And and the theory is that the the feet were there because they were on land and then they went into the ocean and they lost their their their back feet. They just went to Uh they just developed fins over millions of years. Is that not evolution or did that not I think that it was a different set of animals. Okay. At a different time. Okay. It's like people, you know, you got humans.

Well you got all these different weird bodies they find with elongated heads and all and and the scientists says, Oh, they're binding their skulls. Baloney. Some of this had to have been a different It's like Bigfoot. You know, people don't want to believe in that, but it's real. I mean, it's gotta be real. It's been cited for thousands of years on every continent, right? So what is that? How did that evolve from humanity? something is creating and designing everything.

Down to the tiniest l y it's it's like fractals. It never ends. The life just goes Right on. So one human moves to a certain part of the world and they have uh they develop an abundant way of of of of um of of of producing food and then you've got other humans that are on a part of the world where it's very scarce and they're

They're they just have to fish. And then you've got other humans on a part of a world where they have to reach really high up into trees. Do you don't think that they they they evolve differently? Well, I think there's some involvement. Yeah. Humans do evolve. Yeah. Like today. Turn on your T V and watch when I was young and you were we were growing up. It was always who's the best guitarist? Yeah. Was it Chet Atkins or was it Eddie Van Halen or

Yeah. It was always that fight. But now turn on the TV and you got three year olds that can play better than Van Halen can. Yeah, that's all AI. Yeah. It it's all evolving. The kids are being born smarter today. Yeah. Way smarter. It's crazy. Think about think about I have a dog that I love. It's a little B shon. Never had a bee Sean. Bought a poodle.

Got it home and it won't a poodle, it was a bichon. Didn't know it't' took it to get it groomed and doctors the the lady said, This is not a poodle, this is a bee shon. Called the breeder and they gave us the wrong dog, right? So we had this bee shon. I love it, I had to tell that. The dog sleeps on my feet.

Everywhere I go, if I go in the restroom, it comes in and lays on my feet. It lays on my feet all the time. It'll lay on yours if you come in the house. It is a friend of mine in Canada, Montreal. came to visit this summer and m saw my dog and said, Oh my God, I love bijchons. Do you know anything about'em? I said, Not a thing. I just got this one by accident, but I love it.

She said, does it sleep on your feet? I said, how'd you know that? She said, well when they bred it, they bred that dog for the king and queen of France, so they would sleep on their feet. So think about that. How did a human being create a dog?

that would two thousand years later or five hundred years later, all of'em wants to sleep on your feet. How did they instill that in that dog from the beginning? Right. Right. Or how did they do that to Treat a teach a dog to to be born, uh tree a coon or run a deer or run a fox or fetch a bird out of the water or

Yeah, they started save somebody. Started as wolves and then they domesticated and that's why pit bulls have these massive jaws because they were fighting them and that's why they're ripped and strong'cause But how is it that that dog has evolved uh throughout the years? How did they create that in when when they b bred it. Yeah. Where did they how did they do that? Bas based on their actions throughout their lives. Yeah, but still there's got some sort of some magic there.

that you can breed an animal to to to do that for to forever. And I think that the early church Two thousand years ago did that to humanity in a way that Everybody's of automatically sees a light in this guy. It's the devil. It's awful. It's a demon. The church did? Yeah, they burned women and called'em witches, right? Because they were spiritual. Oh yeah, the atrocities committed. Yeah. And to today and the littlest ones will think everything's

evil. They've got the whole world believing without us you're going to burn in hell. It's all it's it's all the devil. Right. Right. Right. And I say that because I ran against uh the very person that'd been in church all his life.

I come with this beautiful story that You hit just like hit me with a sledgehammer. Yeah. Yeah. Don't don't question their reality. Right. Yeah. So I I think that that breeding is gonna just fall away and this new knowledge will be a new humanity, a new way of seeing and understanding and seeing how s closed minded and dumb we really were. to say we're there's nothing uh you go tell somebody in the mall they'll think you're crazy. There's nothing exists outside of humanity.

Couldn't be the furthest thing from the truth. We're gonna realize how stupid we were for saying that. That life is very deep and it's it's abundant everywhere. Yeah. So back to maybe the uh just the so so you you do think that there is Counterintelligence. happening that that like the the CIA they're they're putting out this this counterintel this this

This is the same thing. Okay. Those are the ones I've run into. Okay. Okay. And and it's coming out in the form of Um like what what uh i it it's it's an attempt to scare people, it's an attempt to create narratives that people run off and believe. Yeah, and why? Why do they want to hire people, pay people money to tell stories? They don't want us to know it Spiritual. Yeah. They w they want us really you think it's an alien. Yeah. And then scare you to death with that. You know.

So that it can control ya. Remember what I said last night, one thing that I found out from from the very beginning, eighteen years ago, the one common thing about this UFO phenomenon, once you Pierce that veil and you are an awakened and you begin to experience this and interact with it, we become very psychic. Very psychic. And I don't think the powers that be wants that.

To deal with that. It's like the chicken and the egg though. Maybe the maybe the psychic people are the ones that are able to interact with it, right? Yeah, well that's that's right. Yeah. But you even become more psychic. Yeah. They know this. Right, right, right, right, right, right.

So so they want to control the narrative, they wanna control the population and they wanna do that to to They wanna be able to extract money from citizens, I'm assuming, to be able to do things like fund more weapons and fund space force and and to do that you have to create fear and you have to convince people that there's a threat. Right. And so they're so they're convincing people that there's a threat to national security. And and they're doing that with people like um

Who who are the big players out there that are that that you feel like are are government people that are attempting to spin this threat narrative? I don't I don't know any of'em personally. Okay. And I think it's coming more from abroad, more like uh the one world government type thing. I think that's where it's all they're wanting to take us to a one world economy, one world government.

The people within our government are trying to take us to a wall? I think there's um people in our government that would would ag yeah. But not all our government, uh just just certain people that's involved in different things. But It's about a one world order. They've been telling us forever. that they're creating one world order, one world government. Okay. Interesting. That's coming. Yeah. Um

Okay. So so not not really too many thoughts on on I Okay. So so in terms of the skeptics of your work. then like and and of the story that you're telling. Like what what do people say? What are what is the not from the church, but but people um people who push back against you and have skepticism about your story, what are they what are they say? I I used to have it all the time. You know people said you're crazy

Or you're playing with not with aliens, but you're playing with the devil and all that. But I don't have That problem I don't have a sceptical problem. The only place I would have that is if I posted something on Twitter or one of those things and you got forty million people that has never read my story have no idea who I am. They might say things, but I don't pay that no attention at all. I don't listen to skeptics.

I see'em as uninformed. They want to be relevant, they want to speak their peace, but they've never seen it. Uh, and so they have no clue what they're saying. And they have no idea how deep the rabbit hole goes with me, who I'm involved with, uh levels uh as highest highest levels in the government. Who are you involved with? I mean, can you say like what who who or who are you who are you connected with in the in the government? I'm connected with CIA, um at the top with uh at the top meaning

Yeah. Like the the current director. Yeah. And the seniors they don't ever retire. My friend's not retired. He he still works a certain hours, like four hours a month. Okay. Jim. Yeah, once you get to that level you can't walk away. You're just too valuable and gotcha. Too much information. But I'm Bob with D I A, C I A, D O D. Um I've had a whole lot of other ones throughout NASA, the NRO, National Reconnaissance Office, the Air Force. I've met generals in the Air Force.

um people in this Pentagon recently. I was in meetings in Washington with congressmen. Okay. So they're all involved and they all wanna know. Um nobody claims to know anything, really. If anybody does it'd be NASA. Okay. But they wanna know the they wanna know what's going on with the phenomenon.

I guess with the skeptical question, is is there any group of people that that feel like because you're connected with these people that you're one of these disinformation all the time. Yeah. Yeah. Do UFO World mainly? They're all labeling me as some disinformation, you know, NASA's boy. He's is just a deep state actor. I get that all the time. And that comes from the UFO world. People that wanna believe it's uh

you know, Valiant Thor from the Galactic Federation. Right, right, right. And they don't want to hear anything about spiritual, they automatically label me immediately. But It's okay. Yeah. So yeah, that's gotta be frustrating though. How do you how do you deal with that? I don't worry with it anymore. I I could care less. Because I pick up the phone and call my friend in D C or, you know, have a meeting tomorrow with you know, some of the you know, Lou Elizondo if I wanted to.

Because I'm friends with all these people. And we live in this world like you and I do. You know, we know what we know and w w we're not skeptical. We understand it, we see it and you you know it's real. You've seen it. And so I don't w when you have that confidence and knowing you just don't listen to nice airs. I just see him as uninformed. Yeah. Yeah, gotcha. Makes sense.

Now what like how do you handle the burden of like all of of knowing what you know and and kind of the responsibility that you must feel for for sharing this information with people? Like what does that Is there is there pressure involved? Is there a lot of pressure? Stress and stress, yeah. Yeah, yeah. Just like some of the things I said tonight, you know, would probably get me some blow back, but it's okay.

It's okay. Yeah, yeah. I mean, but in terms of like just the just the the um the the message that that the lady, you know, shared with you and and and like the The I mean she's relying on you heavily to to share this information with humanity. And do you question am I doing this the right way? Am I you know I've questioned it for all these years. But she always seems to to leave me with the answers that I've questioned and um and throughout

these twelve years uh interacted with her in a big way in twenty twelve and then again in twenty nineteen. And I've had experiences with her present. You know, several times these b bluish white orbs. But as far as um i I saw it. It's so real. It's just it has to be told. And if I don't tell it I'll be I will be uh like the watchman in the Bible. I've read that scripture

It popped up on my screen one day and I read it and I'm like, Oh my god, that's me basically. If it it basically says if um you appointed a watchman over the town And the enemies come and and you don't tell'em. then everybody's blood'll be on your hands. But if you told the people and they didn't listen an enemy came, well then you're spared from all this. So when I read that it immediately I knew that

I have to do what it takes to tell it. I don't care. I don't care what people say. I don't care what uh anybody says. I'm gonna do I'm gonna share this and I'm gonna share it with data. Yeah. Makes sense. What what about what about Mufon specifically? Because I've heard that that has has is potentially like a like a

s it's been taken over by the CIA and I don't know if there's trying it's always been run by that. Has it? Yeah. Yeah. Okay. And I think they're more friendly to me now, I'm teaming up. Uh, because what happened to me was in a time when they didn't have control. Basically it was classified before twenty seventeen. All anything to do with UFO was totally classified.

After twenty seventeen they loosened it. Then in twenty twenty, during COVID, they announced it the government's official position while COVID was going on and nobody saw it really. But they announced it as real. And so after twenty twenty, uh begin to start talking a little bit more about some things that has happened or things people I've met or stories and But um

Yeah. But that's just kind of a way for them to understand what people are seeing and where people are seeing it in order to gather information on the phenomenon. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. So they they they saw this organization move on and and it's a volunteer, how much better a deal to create a volunteer organization?

Here's the way it works. You become you go out and you see a st a s uh UFO, Oh my God, I saw it. I'm I'm Richard Dreyfuss. You're zapped, right? A lot of people see it and they just go on back to work and they don't think. But certain people like me and you and others see it as You gotta have answers, right? You don't let it lay. And so they created this volunteer organization.

that would say, Okay, I w I saw it. I wanna be there they recruit you. Matt, you're gonna be the new investigator. They go all out to get you in. They give you a manual and they train you in You become an investigator. Well then you get a report There's a guy down street from you that saw UFO. You come to my house and you do the report.

And um if it's other than one or two little lines, if it's a significant report, you're excited, you go to Mufana, you share your findings and next week you can't find the report. What happened to it? Then you six months later you're not in MUFON anymore because you figured out

that uh they hid your report. They didn't they don't even know where it is anymore. So that went on for all these years. They were gathering data and then you move on, they get another free guy. So they got people all over the world that are Experiencers that are volunteering to collect data. And it don't matter if it's a postage stamp with three words on it, that is just as important as a whole biography about what you saw. Because they run it in um computer algorithms.

So it's constantly running millions of reports. They've been gathering. They've gotten a friend of mine s funded V AFU, which is a Based out of Sweden. and they're doing they're digitizing handwritten reports from all over Europe, from Russia and All the UFO reports from Eastern Bloc countries, they've got these and they're digitizing them and then they've loaded'em in this algorithm. So this is happening. And that's why every bit of that information they can gather around the world

They put it in this machine. If it's a real important uh amazing thing, they hide it immediately and you never see it again. So it's a way to control couple more questions. Couple more questions. So And and uh just remembered that I wanted to ask you about this um but but we didn't cover it when we were talking about the craft itself. So so the inside of the craft.

Um I've heard d descriptions on the insides of the craft of that that seem to be relatively consistent from UFO abductees that talk about like Not no ninety degree angles. Yeah, all around. Yeah, yeah. But what like what do you remember from from your your observation from the actual craft itself? Well I actually drew it. uh in oh s eight when they did their investigation. Um

Do you have those photos? I got'em in a somewhere other drawings that I made. Drawings, I mean, yeah, yeah, yeah. But basically it's like being in a a round room. The room is totally round. Ceiling is round. Um and on one side uh there was just like a console that I could see with lights on it different colors. And that was the only recognizable thing that I saw inside of one of these, other than But I've seen it when it won't clear, when it was like

you know, inside a round room where I couldn't see out of the walls. But it's always round. So it looked like when when you were under it it looked like a tic tac shape. But but when you got up into it it was more rounded. It was it was so it was like a spherical shape. Yeah. And let me tell you about the tic tac. Um I've witnessed it many times. I've had witnesses I've had people with me see it right over our head, two hundred feet up, a hundred feet up, orbs.

When you see'em at certain times they're a real form when you see'em, or translucent balls about the size of a a bowling ball or a beach ball. But they're translucent spears. And if I had a way to describe them, they're translucent raindrops. They're they look like water. And I don't doubt for a minute that they're not full of water because when they move they jiggle and they can come together like bloops.

And all of a sudden you got one raindrop from two or three or four. And they just kinda suck into one another. I've seen'em up close do that. And um Or they can they can change their shape. But it looked to me like when this thing come out of the skies around ball of fire, when it shifted to glowing white. And they all do that, they change colors from red to white to orange, yellow, green, blue.

Um, it looked to me like when it came down to the ground that it kinda squoshed down like a ball o b if you took a water balloon and you filled a round ball of balloon with water and you set it on that bench, it would kinda Squished down like a sort of like a football or an egg. So that's the way I perceived it. It was this round ball kinda squished out to a football like or tic tac.

Yeah. Um yeah, just a just a couple more questions, I think, and we can wrap it up. But the um Uh another thing that Ryan had mentioned was that Tim Taylor had told him that there was a book of Genesis. found on one of the craft. Are you I heard that. Yeah. And what inside area fifty one. They claim to have one. Okay. That it has

Biblical writings on these craft. Okay. I've heard that. Like on the inside, like the actual Inside and Outside. Okay. I've heard it from through scientists. Huh. Okay. That worked there. Okay. So again we're hearing things, right? Yeah, right, right. Yeah. But so that would mean so then we're talking about a recovered craft, right? Yeah.

So so again that's one of those speculation I heard from a guy that there's a recovered craft and it's got I heard it firsthand from Hal Pavemeyer that they found one in um a crash machine in Missouri. Okay. Cape Girarde, Missouri in nineteen forty one. Okay. And that when he got there, um there were the church people, this thing went down in a church and the people there Found this body. Which they believe was like a droid.

I saw the pictures of it. The church people were holding it by the arms. It was dead. Looked like it had shoes on, boots, little boots. About that tall. And Hal put it in his book and colorized the picture. So it was the original photo that he got from one of the ladies in the church that was they don't know how, but the FBI was on the scene within half an hour of this thing going down. Mm. And uh that one of the ladies in the church hit a

p camera under her skirt. Wow. They confiscated all the cameras and everything in the church. Wow. Forbid them to talk about it and how got the picture from her. Wow. Yeah. And where where was this event? Cape Girarde, Missouri. Okay. In nineteen forty one. Nineteen forty one in a church, yeah. Wow That was the year Taylor told me eight of these things come down. And he said they didn't crash. that they gave'em to us. They were gifts. Uhhuh.

Is is the the photo got published? So we're not sure. Look up Hal Pavenmeyer's uh scientific analogy, I think, of uh the UFO. And he he wrote that book and he dedicated it to my family. Hm. Yeah. That's the alien abduction phenomenon. Yep, that one. In that book is a picture of that little being from Cape Girardeau, Missouri. That had been colorized. The house order me, it was real, completely.

And he worked with Jay Allen Heinek for anybody wanting to know. He graduated from Ohio State University. He was a young boy, fifteen or something, seventeen years old, and he went to work. with uh Heinek. Heinick was his astrophysicist, his professor. Okay. Gotcha. Gotcha. We'll try to find that photo for when we uh end post editing when we Yeah, I'll make sure you got it. Yeah, cool. Good, good. Okay. Um who's Tim Taylor?

Tim is a ghost. Okay. And uh Tim is the guy everybody wants to know. But he won't meet anybody. Okay. In fact, the whole UFO world is dying to meet this guy, including half the government, but He's a ghost, and Basically. So you're gonna connect us? He can he c he he Yeah. We couldn't I just got that. But um I introduced him to Diana Pasolka. Diana wrote in her book about him going uh doing to the Vatican with him. Okay.

Uh but he is better known as the Dragon at NASA. His console where he works the launches is called Dragon Console, so he's in charge, but He's National Connists Officers, NASA Air Force, CIA and more. He has a whole cr uh dog tags like this thick around his neck and they just peel'em off once his area fifty one.

This Camp David, he can walk in anywhere he wants to. He runs the launches. Okay. That's what he does. And if you wanna know what NRO s does Let's just say when they're shooting his rocket off from wherever, the NRO is an elite group. From these three groups made into one and they on all all eyes on the rocket. So when the rocket leaves the ground, it wherever it leaves from Cape Canarbo.

There are guys on the ground sitting in these big chairs that have binoculars that record and so they can turn like a turret on a World War Two battleship, you know, to shooting guns around. Well they can follow these rockets up with these cameras. Well they get they lose clarity after about fifty thousand feet. So at 50,000 feet.

is an interceptor called a W B fifty seven and it's a high altitude like a spy plane, completely made for this and it it flies over time just right to where it intersects that rocket. So it chases it on up and when it gets to a hundred thousand feet.

They lose clarity. Then this F one oh four starfighter, which I have photos of, the starfighter then picks it up and takes it on up into space. And then at that point the satellites take over. And that's all that all them ground based cameras, the WB fifty seven, the satellites are all owned and operated by the NRO. So if anything flies up to that rocket in space and attacks it, they got eyes on it.

If it has a malfunction, you know, a leak, they are able to see where it is to fix it. That's what that's who has the goods. Got it. Makes sense. Yeah. Um, what did we miss? I feel like it's a very comprehensive conversation. It was great. Yeah. Yeah. I think we've got to come back. Do another sky watch, we'll film it. Yes. And then we'll do another one of these if you want and share. Some of what we're doing.

iPad to control it. He had a camera hooked up to it and uh you know, it's just cloudy. So it wasn't gonna work. But yeah, I would love to do it again. Good. I'll make it my point. Good, good. I appreciate that. Yeah, yeah. Um well good, yeah. I've got something for you. Um if I don't break my arm. Yeah.

Yeah, maybe a different spot that time, right? Yeah. Thank you, sir. Very, very welcome. Well I can't wait to see. Yeah, good some good stuff in there, man. Oh yeah, I love this. I was eyeballing your cups. Yeah, it's a great cup. I appreciate that. For sure, for sure. My crowd might take it from me. Oh right, right, right. Oh Yeah. I've heard of this. Okay. It's very very

Yeah, Cartol. Yeah, very very uh it was famous back right when you were having your experience actually in two thousand and seven, I think that book came out. Yeah. I appreciate this more than uh good, good than it is. I'm gonna have to fight over that. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Have a crew with me that won't send. Yeah. Well we give the guest a purple copy of of that of that thin wall vase. So uh

These are real Egyptian vases. Yeah. What do you think of'em, man? What I think from from fifty years of in the building business and woodworking and turning wood. They weren't done with a rock and uh uh beating a rock against a rock. There was a machine that did those things. Had to be. There's no other way. And if somebody wants to argue that well then prove us wrong. Right. They'll make one like that. Right. Right. Can't do it.

No, a couple of people have tried and they're they're they're not they're not anywhere near. It's like building the pyramids, beating a rock against another rock, right? Right, right. Carving all those beautiful Right. Right. This is a joke. Yeah, that's the best explanation we have. Right. Yeah. And they'll live by it and they'll they'll oust you if you don't

That's true. That's true. That's true. Sticks and rocks. Sticks and rocks. A little bit of sand, a little water. We got a pyramid. Bang. Right. Yeah. Yeah. Two thousand pounds stone, four hundred and fifty feet up. Right, right. Yeah. Yeah. Crazy. But um well good man. I loved it. I really enjoyed it. It was great to get to know you. You've got a beautiful family. Um yeah, for sure. I I love talking to Ryan. He's a great great guy.

Great person. Was gonna say kid but but just a great human being and uh you've got a you've Emily same thing. You've got a great family and uh keep telling your story, man. Keep getting it out there. It's important and um I appreciate that. Yeah, yeah, for sure. I think it's it's a good uh It makes a lot of sense. It I think it's it's a good it's a good positive um perspective and uh

You know, you've you're you're not a believer, you're an experiencer. This is this is what you've experienced. This is what you know. So I really appreciate you sharing your knowledge. I just I appreciate that. I just don't wanna try to make people believe something. I want you to do your homework and Look at all the evidence and And make your own decisions of what it is. And we're we're at the very beginning of opening a door to who knows what. Yeah.

Yeah. Yep. It's exciting times that we're part of it, right. No doubt, no doubt. Yeah. Yeah. Well good man. Yeah. Let's g oh you know what else we're gonna do? Uh We've gotta get you out of here in ten minutes. But but we have a couple of cups for you to sign. Oh, cool. Um what we're gonna do is we've done this one time but but uh

with uh Wondering Wolf Mike Collins. But we're gonna get you to sign uh ten of these cups and we're gonna put'em on the website. A li limited edition uh Chris Bledsoe signed. uh cup. I'm gonna sign it as well so it'll have both of us on there and we'll we'll put them on the website for anybody who wants a uh a a one of a kind um uh limited edition uh limitless cup.

I love it. Yeah, cool. Cool man. Gotta sell some merch. Make it fun, right? Yeah. Yeah. Good stuff. Good stuff. We'll do it again. Really appreciate your time, Chris. Yep. My friend. Yep. All right, that's a wrap.