some point i'm just gonna stare at my yogurt it's empty now i am sad you cannot use this for the intro people are gonna like they're gonna they're gonna just close it and they won't listen ode to an eaten yogurt oh yogurt and we have such good mmo news today you are 1.5 milk fat And yet I am 98.5% unsatisfied with the quantity of yogurt in my stomach. You guys see what I have to put up with all the time, like all day long.
And when it's not him, I've got Elliot and Chris. I literally can't escape it. She's a kindergarten teacher, and we just pile in. And she's trying to get us on track. And we're like, no, let's make jokes about whatever random things we get. And bonus points if we can get the teacher to just join us in our insanity. Occasionally it works and I realize everybody else is left and I'm still ranching.
yeah there's that too where you just kind of go on a rant and we just quietly leave the room they got me yeah that's I come back like four hours later and you're like, what do you think about any of that? I'm like, what? I just I walked away four hours. I once had a friend and I'm not even kidding. She was such a.
A talker on a phone like she never really wanted to hear what you said. She would just carry a conversation. And once she called me at college and I just quietly put the phone down, walked away and half an hour later came back and she had no idea. She had no idea. How do people not do like...
You know, like the feedback thing where you're like constantly commenting and reacting. At least, yeah. Nope. Choose that into herself. Wow. Yeah. All right. If you'd like an extra large package of narcissism, we will send it to you. cash on delivery of course for the rest of your vmo or whatever we're doing the kids the kids do these days cash on delivery nobody does that for the rest of the bars what about gold bars nuggets
You're listening to the Masley OP Podcast, episode 511. What's the 511 there, Bree? No. Does that stand for anything? Probably something naughty. Every time I look it up, it's always something naughty. Yeah, Urban Dictionary did not do our society any good as a whole. Well, people do it on purpose now, like Snarch.
Like, come on. Take anything innocent and just make it into something. Yeah. So don't take mop and do anything with that. That's our thing, okay? There's all kinds of awful things that we can't say. Because people are horrible. Especially if you're in the janitorial profession. It's just dirty. It's really dirty. So dirty. But we're here to talk about MMORPGs. Yes. At some point. I'm sure we will. I was told yesterday by my friends like...
why do you still do that they're all dead aren't they they didn't say dying they just said it's dead all those games are dead well look if you don't play it it must be dead by definition right and that's how it works that's the fallacy we're operating under yes yes
So you guys are playing dead games. I'm playing dead games. We're talking about dead game news. It's really just a graveyard of enjoyment that we're a part of. I've obviously have not gotten a lot of sleep and my co-host perhaps has gotten too much.
I actually did get some sleep this weekend I've been super busy in real life and it's like I'm doing Justin right now where I'm like forced into like planning my day out like down to the hour and i'm actually managing to get more stuff done because i'm not wasting any time that's usually what happens when you have a little too much time you just end up wasting it not wasting it anymore fritter it away you do you end up for the internet is
is literally home for fruitering. I don't know where this metaphor is going. I got to play MMOs though! Okay, you talk about that and I'm going to think about apple fritters. What do you think I do when you go on your rants? Do you think I'm paying rapt attention to your room? Exactly.
i'm like cleaning the underside of my desk i'm like uh-huh uh-huh brie go ahead no what did what did you play sometimes i do laundry while we're talking so it's we're even like it's cool no i've been like whole hog in lotro
There were no hogs. I don't know why I said that. It's all Lotro all the time for me. Well, that's not true, actually. I played some Bellotro last week, and I played some Sims 4 last week, but those aren't MMOs, so I'm not talking about them. Lotro is the MMO that I have been spending...
the time that I have I was gonna say what little time but like I said I've actually managed to squeeze out more time to play because I'm wasting anyway it's that's just how organization works so I've been playing my champion quite a bit I don't know where. I think she's almost done with Evan. I can never say that word. Is it Evan or even? I always say in my head it's Evan. I don't know what it's supposed to be.
Anyway, I there's like one section of it. I still need to do it's like the ghostly watery area down toward the bottom and I can't remember like how to start that stuff So I need to figure it out. So I've been working on that
Then somebody named Justin Olivetti inspired me. Last week he was like, Bree, stop sucking. Go Yellow Mariner and maybe you'll like it. And I was like, fine so i did and i really do like it i went back to the mariner and i played like five or six levels she's you know like at this point she's like a little 20.
I don't hate it anymore. I actually really like it. That was totally the right call. If anybody out there is listening, take Justin's advice. The rover is so much more fun than going red. I'm doing just as much damage, and I don't feel like I have to play with... or have to pay attention to the little anchor thing whatever it's called
it's really nice you were right you were right and breathing fire is just so much fun that's that's exactly it it has like i don't know for some reason in my head yellow is still like crowd control and i never want to do that you know what i mean
I don't have time for that unless I just want to blow up fear at some point just because there's too many mobs. Most of the time I would almost rather just be killing faster. But in this case... a lot of the crowd control is killing faster like they they just did a good job with it at least so far maybe maybe i'm wrong maybe it isn't as fun at high levels i don't know
Anyway, I've been really loving that. I absolutely kind of re-fell in love with her and actually made me stop what I was planning on doing with my crafting because now I might move some crafts to her instead of to a different character. That's how much I like her. She might get a real craft and not just a gathering.
that's that's high stakes in my world when i think i might actually get you to the end yes exactly um the other thing i did yesterday i decided um to pull out my mini because i haven't played her in forever and I always I neglect her it's it's just a long story because her virtues were so crappy but a couple of weeks ago I had used one of the boosters on my
what do you call it the captain and i moved her to peregrine but i kept all of the virtue boosters that come with it and so i've been slowly like dispersing them among my main characters who all needed virtue help because a lot of them are like literally old from before the last server so you cannibalize your valor
Yes, because I don't know that I'm ever really going to play that character. I mean, I wasn't playing her before. She was my metalsmith, and that's the only reason I really kept her around. Maybe I'll change my mind. Heck, maybe Yellow Cappy is the way. I don't know. You tell me, but... I think I'm okay with that. I have so many freaking dollars anyway. Blue Cappy?
i think i was probably red you regenerate so fast on your health it's like every attack you do you're just generating more health see i think of blue as being like the healing and defensive line yeah but see i mean as we talked about like you can play the way that they intended you to play it or you can just play it your own dang way and sometimes that's more fun even if it's not optimized yeah i just always think of them as being like things you only need in groups or in raids
and whatnot so i would just ignore them but it's totally different from that now they really have been going through one at a time and making all of them viable even for solo wars to you know varying degrees so this is the guild wars 2 lesson and i'm just learning it all over again in lotro that i will have so much more fun if i actually instead of just going you know slopping through a build if i actually take some time and do it one by one
i'll find something that actually works in the modern game instead of the game that's in my head that that happens to a lot of memos i will say my mini felt a lot more fragile than i remember when i was playing her a lot a couple years ago I don't mean a long time ago. I mean when I came back and I redid her and I started playing her a little bit and I got her around 20 levels or something. And then I kind of just abandoned her and started playing my Hunter all the time.
I don't know. She doesn't seem like she sucks, but she definitely doesn't seem... Maybe it's because I've been playing so many melee characters who have better armor, like, you know, heavy armor or medium armor instead of cloth. I don't know. Maybe it's just a mental thing. I feel like even my lore master is meatier than the mini.
I guess I just need more practice. I'm sure that's all there is to it. But it's been fun. I've been moving around between all my alts and really enjoying the crap out of it. The server, I'm on Glamdring. I was actually just making fun of it on Blue Sky this morning because the prices are ridiculous.
I don't know when they're going to settle down, but it's completely like don't even bother buying stuff on the server right now. Everything is so high priced that it's like laughable. I posted a picture of a couple of yarrow. i always look for yarrow because they make gold dyes and i like gold that that color is something i use a lot in my clothing and somebody wanted like 500 gold for like a yarrow or two and i was like what what what
What has happened? Like, that's a tremendous amount of money in the game. I realize, you know, even veterans probably have 10, 20, maybe 50,000 gold probably at this point. But... that's still crazy the the die is worth like you know 100 silver like i don't understand what's happening to this game but something has gone very wrong with the economy
And the chat has still been kind of bad. I want to point out that the chat was actually way worse on the weekdays than it was on the weekend. I'm not sure what that means. Like... That's usually not how I would expect it. I would expect all of the, you know...
The grown-up toddlers to be out on the weekend. The weekend warriors, you know, trolling it up, having a beer and being trolls in a video game. And it seems like it was just the opposite. Like all the kids were gone and grandpas were out telling dad jokes. And I was like, yay, I'm here.
This is what I wanted to see was the Tolkien grandpas, right? Making everything feel cozy. And then, I don't know. I don't really understand the way that server is shaping up. But every time I've gone back to Peregrine... it's so much nicer and yet it's tiny it just doesn't seem like there's hardly anybody playing and that worries the crap out of me so i haven't moved but i'm still kind of watching and waiting to see what happens next gotcha all right what did you get to play
Well, yeah, it was not the most time of... affluent week that i've had in my life uh so it was just a little bit here a little bit there and uh mostly i kind of made it my mission like you inspired me i inspired you you inspired me mutual inspiration yeah i played my mariner all week in lotro i'm like oh yeah yeah my mariner i haven't played that in a while i should take a look and um
So I'm kind of being a little nerdy here. I kind of styled her after this book series on, like, it's a fantasy version of The Three Musketeers. And I always love, like, fencing characters, and there's very few of them that you get in MMOs. So the animations... are very you know got a lot of good fencing moves and the character in the book obviously musketeers you got you know the fencing thing so um i i spent a lot of time like creating outfits that i thought would go very well with
kind of that musketeer look. And as a result, it is a very immersive, like personally immersive class for me, but I had kind of just let it fall aside. I hadn't even touched it ever since we went over to the new servers. So, but my co-
was like oh yeah the mariner blah blah blah and i'm like oh i should i should go touch base i should i should touch my rapiers and see what's going on here and before i knew it i was like yeah i like this i like whole hog let's go But I don't I think I'm at the point where I really want to be.
I don't want to spend time in Eriador right now. I've been spending so much time in the last year, year and a half. I just need to not be in that region. But I also just finished up all the endgame stuff, so I don't want to go through the new expansions.
like the last two expansions again with some of my high level characters. I need a little bit of breathing room. So the solution here is I need somebody who's kind of like more in the middle. And if it's going to be this character, I need to get this character to like Moria stat.
Like that was my mission. So. that was my mission so i used missions and like yeah i could do the i could be a brie i could go to evandim and i could look for boars fruitlessly you know i don't do that quest that quest pisses me off so much i literally get it and then I cancel it and I cancel it for all characters again. I love quests that just enrages so many people because even when you're mad, you're still just like grinning. Like, yeah, I get it.
it's a rite of passage uh so instead yeah i've been i've been kind of making a mission like in a week week and a half that i was going to get this character from like level 30 to level 47 or so and so i've just been kind of optimizing running mission and using that time to really work on my build and experiment around with some different setups. And I have a very unorthodox build. I think I shared a little bit with you, but it's not exactly what it was meant.
to be designed to do but in the rotation is very simple yeah i can just jump in the middle guys and just start slashing like crazy i've got pretty good heels a little bit of good Crowd control and, you know, I'm getting a I'm getting a stun out every 10 seconds, which is great. I love that. I love just absolutely interrupting mobs and.
giant orcs are suddenly just dazed and they look like they're being knocked around by rocky or something for a little while so it's a good feeling like it so it's it's kind of clicking for me and i i feel like i'm getting this character in a good spot so that when i do go to moria
She's good to go there. Sweet. So, yeah. Otherwise, in World of Warcraft, it wasn't the most exciting week, mostly just because the... every night i wanted to sit down and do a lot but i'm like oh no i'm still on the gearing up stage from this season so i need to run more delves i need to run more world quests and i'm trying to do that between two characters and that ends up sucking up most of my weeks
play time and wow in fact tonight might be the only night over the last seven days i might do something other than that because i haven't even gotten further and undermine and i really want to do that but um That's my choice. That's what I've been doing. So that's not been a bad thing. It's just been a little bit of a... Oh man, I wish I could get all this stuff done in like two days versus four or five days. That way I'd have the rest of the week. Maybe I'm just not being...
As quick about it, although it's really just a time crunch on my part. It's just not been a great week. You sound terrible. I'm starting to worry about you. You poor thing. My yogurt. It needs to be more. yeah well that's it that's all we've been doing um you know some odds and ends and I did a little bit of Diablo 3, but nothing worth talking about there. You've been playing Sims 4 also, because I've seen you put it up on your blog. Yes. What are you up to in there? Oh, things. Stuff.
I did. I did there. There was that, that limited time quest series, like for the anniversary where you had to do the time travel. I was finishing it up. Good. Yeah. It was a little anticlimactic. Yeah, exactly. I mean, they're really talking up like time travel. I'm like, dude, if this game suddenly throws me back into like Sims 1, like a simulated Sims 1, I'll think that's the coolest thing ever. And in the end, it's just like, oh, you got a piece of mail. Yeah. All right.
The community kind of sets its own goals. They're like, how many babies can you have with the special NPC? Can you convince the special NPC to marry you? They've got their own meta thing for these events. They have their challenges.
I think what I'm doing is I'm really exploring more of the live game than I ever have. I'm learning a lot more of the ins and outs of... how to level up skills i've got my micro house i designed a micro house where these this married couple lives in so their skills are just like shooting through the roof like the second i do anything oh that's right i forgot that was what that came with tiny houses the tiny yeah yeah
um so i got one guy he's like he's upgrading all this stuff which is really cool i've never upgraded things before and yeah it's it's good sure you get the flaming toilet it's no fun unless your sims butts are catching on fire every time they try to pee
I was telling my daughter, I'm like, to complete that quest line, at one point I had to get my mischief skill up to do something. And I... I forget what, why I had to have my, I think it was something I had to do on the computer and I couldn't get my mischief skill up because I wanted to, to like prank, like create like a toilet.
oh no no no i i wanted to get my mischief skill up so that i could blow up my toilet so that the guy could repair the toilet i needed to get some repair points and so i'm like i can't how do how do you deliberately break something in this game like i guess i could just use the toilet a million times or i could blow it up and so i had fun kind of like leveling her mischief skills by going online in the game and trolling
the forums some some messed up incentives in this game for like yeah by the way i just want to point this out no ea is not paying me to say it but if you're still listening to this in march 2025 ea has a sale that's like running alongside of the steam
sale where like everything is on sale and some of the expansions are like 16 the really like old ones like sim like um seasons and pets and those they're really cheap they're normally 40 bucks you gotta get seasons yeah that's what i mean then they usually go down to 20 and 20 is a pretty
good deal but 16 is a crazy i like i let my daughter buy a couple out of her allowance because she really wanted to be a mermaid so you know i'm just saying it's a good deal if you're interested and you don't have them now is the time because i've i've never seen some of them this cheap i don't know use code mop511 that's not a thing don't don't do that there actually are creator codes you can use if you google you'll find them and it helps out actual actual sims creators and not us
This episode of the Mass Leopie Podcast is brought to you by Raid Shadow Legends. Pick, like, Lil Simsie or somebody out there who's awesome and does, like, you know, good community stuff. I don't know. All right, can we start talking about the news? Yes, let's talk about MMOs. All right, let's talk about Dune Awakening. Speaking of money and prices and things that are definitely not on sale. Oh my goodness. I'm sorry, I'm laughing because I know what's coming next and people are so crazy.
I haven't actually read too much into this. I just saw, oh, we know the box price now. It's $50 full price box price. Yeah, it's not just in here. I meant to link you this. I completely forgot. Because this morning, like... As soon as you left, of course, they actually launched these pre-orders. So we have even more info now. Let me link it to you. Even more. I got it. I got it. I see it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's right there. It's happening, et cetera.
yeah okay so we have yeah there's a box price there's not going to be a subscription this is going to be a buy to play uh there will be season passes so of course you know you can't have a game out in 2025 and not have a season pass There are also additional versions of the game, so you can splurge even more and buy the deluxe edition where the little nose tube thing you've got is even thicker and full of more phlegm. I don't know what they have.
let's just go with that new headcanon drop did i just say out of everything that the dune universe creates i'm just always staring at that weird nose that they do i don't it doesn't work for me it just looks creepy it looks like yeah i mean It looks like a little... It looks like when you're in the hospital and they're putting tubes up your nose. I was like, that's not comfortable. Yeah, you can get some more stuff.
You can actually get a from the film. We talked a little bit about Transmedia Synergy last week. And oh, you better believe they're going to be doing a lot of film crossovers here. So I think the the ultimate edition comes with the. suit from the film. Oh, that's the exact thing. Oh, I didn't realize that. So there you go. So you can pay $50 or you can pay up to $90.
on the more expensive edition yeah no the middle pack and the upper pack have um they have the seat the first season pass i guess but they also have a head start and that's where all of the drama arose oh okay yes let's get you to that it's like yeah because funcom is making such a huge deal about how it is a head start and not an early access and people are some people are like that's they're the same picture right they're exactly the same thing and a five-day head start is an early
access and how dare you and other people are like that's not what those words mean anymore and that's not what anybody means when they say early access and so that's where the disconnect arises right some people are like early access is like when you put
your game into like a soft beta soft launch beta for like years while you drag on and you wipe and you're developing it's completely unfinished and we all know it and half time it doesn't get developed any further at all it just languishes that's what we think of now when we think of early access but there are some companies and i think amazon just did this was it amazon
maybe it was nc soft it was it was one of the companies that was publishing asian an asian mmo and they called their head start in early access like it still happens occasionally but they clearly meant head start i think we almost like usually just translate it we don't usually use the term early access when they're clearly talking about like a paid head start it because it's confusing it's not the same as a steam early access or whatever but there are some folks who are like absolutely like no
funcom is just you know splitting hairs they're just trying to have their cake and eat it too this is totally in early access even though they're not going to be testing they're just letting people in early for money like that's complain about it if you want but complain about it is like a pay to win problem not as a evil early access problem i don't know or yeah i would complain about the like we're splitting up the community again and yeah having people go in
early and that's yeah it just makes some some bad taste in a lot of people's mouth um i guess they're launching like new servers the on the real launch date so if you don't want to deal with early access people see i just did it if you don't want to deal with head start people or shenanigans there will be clean servers for you on
on may 20th so that kind of the sting out of it but some people just don't like funcom and other people are like just the terminology we've gotten really tangled up in it and i i guess i can understand it but Maybe it wouldn't have made such a big difference if Funcom weren't emphasizing it like this, but they really don't want people to think of this PC launch as an early access. This is like the real deal. On the other hand, we also know that like
this whole pc launch experience is kind of like a test for the console launch that is not happening right now i think i think they postponed that to like fall now off the top of my head i'm not sure that's true i know it's been postponed so i mean they're not gonna
they are going to be testing stuff you know to see what works and what doesn't we are going to be polishing so i don't know if there are so many other things to light fun come on fire for this seems like i don't know picking nets to me but you guys i'm not overly happy with it but at the same time like i can be a little bit fair and look at the actual prices here and go yeah it's like
20 bucks extra if you really want to go that route and you still do get the season pass. If you were going to buy the season pass anyway, that's probably the way. So, you know, we have five days. Otherwise, you can wait five days. And yeah, I know I definitely had a whole hissy. fit last year when the war within kind of did this the same thing and it was frustrating and i i anticipate people who are really excited about dune awakening they're
going to be a five-day frustration period where some people are in, some people aren't. I do really like that idea of just fresh servers on the actual launch day. But I don't know. I guess my attention has been more on the $50 box price. Yeah, I agree. That seems pricey to me. I'm not sure I want to pay $50. Yeah, weighing how much I would pay for a game. I don't know. I mean... In one sense, it used to be like a premium...
you know, computer video game would be like 60 bucks, right? That was for a long time. That was what we were trained. If we're going to pick up a box, a box price, you know, for a brand new product was usually in the 50 to $60 range. And now it's kind of like it, your expert.
Expectations are set all over the place depending on if you buy primarily through Steam or you buy older titles or you buy titles that are trying to undercut everybody else. For this, it seems a little pricey. It makes me... personally hold back a little bit like i would i'm gonna want the game to prove itself i'm gonna want it like a few weeks in and people have to be raving about it oh my goodness this is amazing uh for me to want to drop 50 bucks on on title
But it's not outside the realm of possibilities. I think we've seen... And my mind is void of examples. But I think we've seen in some recent years some games come out and they drop at a way heavier price, $70, $80. And it's like, no. I know inflation is what it is. You're outpricing most of your fans that are not going to want to really dive into that. I think the name, the IP is going to...
helped offset some of that box price. People are really still excited about the Dune IP and the new movies.
plural that they've gotten to the works um that's going to keep the excitement up here so yeah funcom's got you know they got this opportunity to really put out a premium product get a pre you know charge a premium price and probably get a lot of people whether or not they complain or not they're still going to get a good size chunk of people so But yeah, I'm going to probably hold back a bit unless we suddenly score some free...
or discounted box prices. I don't know. Yeah, I want to see how it plays with a lot of people first, because so far, mostly what we've seen has been very small. very small groups of journalists and influencers and stuff, we haven't really seen what it's going to look like at the MMO scale.
and whether it is going to turn into a gank box at that scale and whether it does have enough content or whether people are just you know people who really like this stuff out of funcom are just going to end up back in conan exiles because it's got you know years and years and years of content man i just i don't know it's gonna go they've yeah i'm really excited about next month a little bit dreading a little bit excited but it's it's a major it's gonna be a major mmo event like
we haven't seen a launch of a straight up mmo like this in in some time and it's really cool especially liberty was pretty big yeah since then really but it's um And also from Funcom, which... Well, that's true. That's absolutely true. you know some has its fans also has a lot of people have been burned and multiple times but also also seeing funcom go back to mmos after so long being away from them if they did and that's i think something i want to see too okay
How MMO-y is it? Yeah. Because sometimes they hedge and sometimes they call it survival MMO. And I don't really think they've done very much outreach to the MMORPG communities really at all. They barely even name drop their, you know. Their MMO beat Bonafide. We are pariah! I mean, maybe they think that we're already in the bag, so why bother? But I don't know. It's just something I keep an eyeball out for.
i really like joel bylos i'm sure he has a really nice team but funcom and tencent not the best track record so
What do they need to do between here and there to maximize their hype, get as many people really on board for this? I mean... what i would have last year marketing campaign i'm sorry no no no no i mean that's probably a good call but i hope they're not going to spend too much money on it like i don't i don't think they need to quite so much because they've already got the ip like the ip sells itself right now um
Boy, I don't know. We talked a lot about this earlier on in development. We were like, you know, if they got Zendaya up there talking about this game, that would be monumental. You know what I mean? That would be like...
they would grab a whole new generation that is not paying any attention to this we were joking about it because they started doing tick tocks right and we were like okay well that's clearly their new their angling demographic that's what they're they're at least trying to pick those people up even if they think they've already got us reach is doing the same thing so i don't know i i guess i'd like to see like um
I was going to say a demo. They have a bodybuilding demo. Yeah, like an open beta or demo. Yes, like an open thing where everybody can come look before we pay 50 bucks. But then again, depending on the state of the game, that may...
be a net negative and i don't know where they are you know what i mean because this could like backfire really bad you know people pay 50 bucks and go in it's like half finished or it's a horrible performance or it's just not the kind of game that they were anticipating because it is a bit of a different style.
game like they're they're melding base building and you know as you said korean exiles a lot of the things that they learned there that design strategy but also with mmos and also with the very funcom style and also with dune and so the the combination of all that, we're going to see if that works or not for people. Sci-fi isn't as much of an automatic get for a lot of people as fantasy is.
some of these classes i think there's just like four classes there you know one or two of them like sound weird and i they don't have an instant analog to something we kind of understand already that's so funcom isn't it it is which is you know like yeah anarchy days, right? What the heck is a bureaucrat? Do I want to play a bureaucrat? Yes, yes, you do. It's awesome. You get a pet robot. Yep.
So it's going to be a very interesting month when we get to May. It feels like May's next month. It's still two months away. I know. That's okay. I knew what you meant. Yeah, this spring has just started and it's already kind of flying past already. I don't know how that's happening. I don't like it. Ding, ding, ding. New challenger entered the ring. We'll see.
So a lot is going to happen there. And in the meantime, everybody's going to be arguing, debating, and calmly discussing with civility and rationalization whether or not a paid head start is a good idea. You guys decide. Meanwhile, we're going to decide that we probably are not going to be dropping money on Guild Wars 2 expansion.
this august because we're not going to see one this summer arena net said that they're going to be delaying the the expansion this year just a couple months just a couple months to october Which I don't know. I'm not currently playing Guild Wars 2, but I wouldn't think that's the most heartbreaking announcement I've heard, especially since they haven't actually revealed what the expansion is at this point. Right, we don't even know what's being delayed yet. So it's like, okay.
it's it kind of made sense to me and i hope i i came across because i was kind of thinking it through in this in this article like what does it mean how does that stack up in the past you know with jan thier and with soto we've got the expansion like the reveal would be like
or july it wasn't even much of a wait and then the then the first part of the expansion would come out in august and then we get drops in november and then march of the following year and then june of the following year and then we get the next one right so instead of august we're going to get the first
first one in October so it's off by a couple of months but it's gonna jostle everything else part of the problem that they were having with that schedule I just told you about was that there just wasn't very much time between the last part of the expansion the last expansion and then
next one like and i don't just mean for us to like play through it and you know get over you make it feel old but they only had two months and i realize they've got people working on the you know what i mean they're like bouncing back and forth they're working in parallel i'm sure that's how they're doing
there's no other way but that still isn't very much time you know to finish it up to put everybody on it and you know get the marketing going it doesn't give them a whole lot of runway at all and that's literally what what grouch was saying is that they were crunching and they don't want to be crunching on you know these big expansions and they could be doing so much more if they didn't have to crunch because crunch is not really enough positive so
i think it's probably going to be okay august isn't the best time to launch i know like marketers think it is but for i i suspect for the kinds of people who play guild wars 2 i don't think it's great just right right as the school year is kicking off i just hate when comes out in august i never have time to really sink my teeth into it october is way better um yeah i think so too but i'm not sure like that that kind of means that by definition we'll be getting like
if it happens in october we're probably not going to see the next one until january realistically christmas december just kind of gets eaten up by christmas break it just does every year it was happening in the old schedule too that's where all that that extra month that got taken out of summer was vanishing into Christmas because nothing is happening so that means the whole schedule ends up getting knocked off and I don't know
I guess I'm a little nervous that that will keep happening. You know what I mean? Like, not just that it gets knocked off schedule once, off kilter once, and then, you know, in 2027, no, 2026, that expansion. Might even get delayed more. That's what I'm worried about. You know what I mean? Not that the new schedule starts in October and it's always going to start in October I don't know what's gonna happen the year after that whether it just keeps keeps getting slower and slow
because I wouldn't want to go any later than October or November. But I don't know. So let me ask you real quick, since they haven't announced it yet, what would you like them to announce? For the expansion? Oh my god, I have absolutely no idea. I mean... I feel like they should... They won't, but I would like to see them go back and do some of the...
I know, I'm going to say it. Some of the Canthus stuff that they didn't finish. There's like a lot of landmass down there that I feel like has storytelling potential that I really like. And I, I, I don't know.
I mean, it's not like they didn't do anything down there. You're just never satisfied. More Kanta! I'll tell you what happened. It's because we didn't really get a full... what do you call it like an original living world season you know what i mean because after they launched end of dragons they relaunched the original
the first season like as content that was like what they did and then they came out with like one or two zones and i'm blanking on what they're called because i haven't been down there that much um they just didn't get a full season whereas like path of fire got
was at least one full season now i'm trying to remember is are there two seasons in there i can't remember but they got tons of content so it feels like that region is huge when you've done it all like and i'm not i'm not mad about that i like path of fire um yeah i don't know i'd like to see them do something really different
You know, something very fresh feeling, maybe something that doesn't have connections there to Guild Wars 1 or anything that we've seen and done before. I think that they do. Yeah, they continue to stay. relevant and stay something interesting you know you can only mine nostalgia for so long and or previous connections sometimes you just have to forge new territory i think this it feels like a year that they should be forging
But also, I would love to see with this expansion, I'd like to see them expand upon the housing system. The housing system, for sure, yeah. We need to be able to have more. Give some additional places. Maybe if it's just, you know, creating some space in the main cities, I think that would be a good idea. But replace those housing, those personal home instances that nobody uses past the opening stores. I don't know.
yeah i wonder i actually would love to know what the numbers of people using that now that homesteads are here do people just move all their stuff i bet they do because there's no reason to go back yeah that we need more styles of house um and more locations for sure that seems like a no-brainer to me if they're not doing that i have questions like did the housing system not go over you know what i mean like
i assume it went over really well but i don't know for sure i i'm not i don't have those numbers i hate not having numbers but yeah there's there's lots of stuff they could do maybe i'll dig around on reddit or half colin like um because he he knows more about the lore than i do frankly
just to pull up ideas for like what haven't they done because i feel like janthier is actually they've got like little threads they've plucked from past off from soto from you know the existing konan from the mersat like they're threads that existed for but like overall like they're kind of I don't know it doesn't really seem very rooted in the past the way something like
um path of fire or end of dragons did then again i really like those i'm not necessarily saying that's a bad thing i just i feel like with soto and jan theory they really have been doing something new and i don't know whether it's working like i'm not sure whether that's actually more appealing to more people so you want them to go more invest more into
some fan favorite i want both i think it needs to be both they need to they need to find because you don't want them to just suddenly be like yes and now everybody is a space alien and we're doing crazy stuff now dude i'll come back for that it's a little
out of pocket i'm just saying yeah well you know the magitek ships at the uh those little crazy yeah actually that does sound awesome so never mind do that we want to see a surface aliens i'm just saying sometimes having those threads is what makes it
feel like real feel believable when they do do something crazy like oh yeah now we've got this mage tower floating in the sky and people can time travel and blah blah blah you know what i mean it's believable because it's got that nugget of of pastness pastness that's not a word you know what i mean that nugget of like historical mythology pastness pastness you know all right so until
Before your words completely fail you, tell me what's going on with Marvel Heroes? Are we able to play Marvel Heroes again? Yes, but also no. But mostly yes, but kind of no. i feel like you're toying with my emotions here okay so technically yes you can log in and play it a couple of months ago actually we've been talking about this the emulator files that came out i think it was 2023 when somebody
Kindly dropped some files and people started putting putting them together into something that you know You could kind of run yourself, but it was totally not finished from what I can tell Last fall people really got hardcore into this and everything went up on github and they were really cranking forward on development and then there is at least one server now that we know of that is actually up with that code and you can actually make an account.
and play the game. But it's not finished. That's why I'm hedging a little bit here. It's not finished. It's called Project Tahiti, which is apparently, gosh, what is it? An agents of shield reference that I don't get because I don't watch this stuff But if you guys are Marvel fans, you definitely know what it is. That's what they're calling it It's I don't want to call it hush-hush, but they're basically like please don't drop the link to the entire game in discords
we don't get banned they're that they're that level of emulation um so you can if you already have it on steam um or you had it on steam you should be able to re-download the game and basically just add in like a little line that will send you to the right new server which
It's kind of wild to me how that's working, but I believe there are other ways to get it. I do not know them I haven't even gotten to try this myself yet I found out about this from a guildie who has tried it and did play and said it was fun So they have a lot of stuff in place they have
the combat up uh but they don't have like guilds and stuff they don't have pvp like it's it's not finished they have been very clear that they're um they're still working on it they've got a whole like trello board set up for like here's what we're working on in these stages
to expect so obviously we're a ways away from a final release and they have said they're going to wipe that's why i said again it's not exactly playable you can play it but don't expect anything you're doing to like count forever this is not you know the final version Yeah. And they've been very clear they're not taking money. They're not even taking donations right now, although that may change in the future. It probably will need to change in the future if this gets popular.
but yeah it's it's it's happening it's like finally happening it's been 12 years since this game came out almost 12 years and it closed down in 2017 and we were all really upset about it i'm still kind of salty about the fact that the it got shut down with so little consideration for the developers and for the players. And yeah, it's just awesome to see somebody has figured out a way to bring it back. I don't know what Disney's going to do.
maybe something maybe nothing um people have been saying that disney is for sure gonna crack down on the star wars emulators any day now they've been saying that for like i don't know 15 years and it hasn't happened so um Who knows? I don't know what they're going to do. Maybe nothing. Okay. But that's happening, guys. Be excited. I'm excited.
You're excited. I don't know how I feel about it. I'm going to let it percolate. I don't want to play until it's done. I will say that. So if you're in that camp.
I totally understand. I don't really have a major problem with rogue servers for dead games. I just feel like, you know, ethically, I don't care anymore. If Marvel doesn't want to run them and isn't going to run anything even remotely like it, I don't feel bad about it. So I don't really feel... bad about it if you guys like it but i understand people who just don't want to deal with the you know gray nature of it all
sometimes when a game ends and you know it's sunsetted and you've already dealt with like your complicated feelings of saying goodbye and you know like okay i put it in the past and it's nice and it's sitting there and then for somebody
to to revive it and to bring it back and you're just like i i don't know if i want to deal with this already right yeah like sometimes you just have said goodbye and it's time to move on and i i might feel like that toward marvel heroes but at the same time it was an
excellent game and it'd be really cool if they like brought it back and just unlocked all of the characters all the team ups all the pets and just let people really enjoy whatever they want to do so i would love to see that i want to play it with my kids because i
that was kind of what I did when my kids were little this was a game I could let them play where they could you know punch bad guys and it wasn't super serious because of the isometric nature of it all and honestly I spent a lot of time in there because City of Heroes was gone so i kind of got my city of heroes fix from like the open world stuff in this game wasn't it's not exactly the same but that was that was what i did to cope with the loss of city of heroes and so
losing this on top of that just it was extra bad but now we have now we have city of heroes also so i feel less like i need this but i also think my kids will really love it sure Well, games that probably won't be brought back are titles that get put out there and don't do so well, and they're closed pretty quickly. And what I'm talking about mostly have been a whole spate of like... pvp titles that you know games like tactical shooters team shooters and extraction games that studios have been
launching and putting out there. And we've done far too many of these stories where like a month later, weeks later, they might just say, yeah, we just don't have the numbers. We're closing.
like that's it like we've we've spent years making this game building it up and it arrived and just nobody cares and so we're closing like almost right away so there's no real runway to let you know the game kind of develop grow into its own it's just like you had to have the critical mass on day one for some of these pvp
games or else there's just no hope and so one example of this came this past week as we looked at a title called seekers of sky veil that actually kind of did look cool it had some really beautiful graphics It's been in the works for a while. It was... 2019, I think. Yeah, it's been in the making for... It survived COVID. You know what I mean? Over a half decade. Yeah.
and so and they they finally got it out the door and just weeks after the early access launch they're calling it quit they just said same thing
We just don't have the critical mass of players. We don't have the money. We can't keep it going. Launch was their Hail Mary. If they launched and suddenly there was... thousands tens of thousands hundreds of thousands of players then they could feasibly financially continue to support the project but in this case and in so many other cases it just hasn't in fact not a couple months ago maybe just a month ago we had another extraction shooter, Dungeonborn. I don't know if you remember that one.
That's going to sunset in May. They just announced that earlier this month. They just said, oh, yeah, we just launched it. Early access last year hasn't been doing so well. We're going to shut it down. So it's not nearly the quick turnaround on shutdowns, but we've certainly seen a lot of these stories. Probably the most famous would be last year when... Oh, right. Conquered.
conquered yeah when conquered you know came out and that was that was like a big big big title and suddenly they're like yep it failed like almost overnight
I don't know. Maybe this is kind of a sign to the industry. These titles are far more risky than... are worth doing i mean maybe it's maybe there's not as much investment to making these titles as say full-fledged mmo but still it feels like they're just flushing them down to the toilet left and right and I'm wondering if it's just not the time to be doing these.
Yeah, you might not be wrong, and some of them might have done better if the investment were there, like if they could have gotten a little more runway to actually try to develop the game and actually post-launch or not have to rush it out so early. you know put it into test phases and say okay people really don't like this mode we need to we need to really do it over it's going to take six months you know what I mean that kind of thing if they don't have that kind of money
it's over or the marketing for that matter when they don't they just don't have anything left for that and the investment is gone so like you said i think this probably was a hill mary but the thing is it wasn't like it was crappy it wasn't like it was bad no i actually liked saying it's pretty
I was keeping my eye on this game, not just for the visuals, which are attractive, but the fact that they were designing it around what they call a social cooperative action RPG. Like they wanted people to go in together and work together. And, you know, yes, there was PVP and there's. PVE and so you get the very awkward PVPVE. I just got a headache from just saying that. Yeah.
you get that moniker but at the same time like there is definitely like a pve side of this and so whenever i hear that i'm like oh it's mmo adjacent that's kind of cool like let's see what you can do and unfortunately i think that's the problem though is a lot of the mmo adjacent when they say when we say mmo adjacent what we really mean is they took a core component of the mmos and they took it out and they tried to make it a standalone game but
It doesn't work. It doesn't work that way because the MMOs exist as an amalgamation of all of these different little core gameplay loops. And when you take one out, it's not that it's not fun. It's that it doesn't stand alone very well as its own game. think that is the problem with most of the extraction RPGs. I'm sure someone will have an example of a completely, totally successful extraction RPG that isn't just, you know, another battle royale, right? But...
i'm having a hard time thinking of one that has really like defined the genre and is like the league of legends of extraction escape from tarkov maybe but that's more of a that's more of yeah i mean isn't that extraction I guess it has an extraction loop, but I don't think of it as being purely that. Purely, yeah.
there's like i also kind of in my mind i'm thinking of like division doesn't division have a oh it very well might but i think of that as being within the game like a destiny clone oh i'm sure i just pissed off a bunch of people but that's how i think of it no it's kind of it's kind of in that
yeah area it's almost got like a yeah it's not necessarily pvp based even if it has pvp in it whereas these loops if you guys have been reading sam's fighter kite column he really likes these games and he keeps trying them over and over again and most of them fail as soon as he's done so obviously it's sam's fault no i'm kidding it's not sam's fault but you know he's he they're fun they're actually amusing to play you know but i'm not sure how well
Like do people want to do just that gameplay loop over and over again where you go in try not to get yourself killed You try to fight, you know, you kill the mobs you try to get your stuff and you get out or you hunt
Players right and take their stuff and try to get out. Do you really want to do nothing but that over and over again? Or does that kind of stuff only work in like an mmorpg where when you're you're done doing that a couple times you can then go out and quest or then go to the tavern or you know then go to your i don't
I'm not convinced. Your loot persists in a different environment that you could use it. There's some incentives that are just gone when it's pulled out by itself. And that's one of the things Sam has been talking about in his pieces where he'll say, you know, I'm not really sure why I'm doing it.
this like there's a progression and there's some character development but most of the stuff I just got out I can't even use again or like it translates into a currency and then I can buy like a thing it just doesn't feel rewarding the way MMOs often feel rewarding And that's. Yeah. Go ahead. Finish your time. I can't remember what I was going to say.
Okay, so yeah, I think that's one of the weird feelings I got from Wayfinder. Even though Wayfinder is not an extraction shooter, it definitely has a more limited gameplay loop. And it does want you to kind of dive into dungeons and accomplish dungeons.
and then come back out and you know you got your gear and you got your progression and you got your housing and so it kind of felt like a in a way a mini mmo without they're truly massively multiplayer anything and yet it was it wasn't satisfying i was talking with some friends the other day like what they said why do you still play mmos i said so so many other games that are
like that MMOs touch upon, and by that I mean mostly like role-playing games, JRPGs, CRPGs, they just don't feel satisfying the way an MMO does. There's not that persistence. There's not the truly... bigger scope of the social field that that you can have in mmos and um also stability like once an mmo has been around for you know 10 years it's five even five years it might go for a really long time after that and so it's really nice to have that versus
some other more some of these smaller online titles that you're just like I've seen so many go down in flames just in the last like last three months people just a look at our sunset tag category and i'm just looking at game after game after game and most of these are smaller
pvp team-based shooters extraction shooters these kind of games and they just come out and there's just no audience for it right now right and it just might be like people are just getting what they need somewhere else that's more stable i don't know Yeah, I'm sure that's part of it. And you could say that, well, of course we think that because we play MMORPGs kind of a lot. Sure, and there's that bias, right? Right, but it's clearly not just us. Even shooter fans don't want it.
if they did they'd be playing it and the other games wouldn't be closing down. You know what I mean? Like, it's clearly not just because we think MMOs are better. It's also because there are lots of other shooters. And you could look at the whole industry and say, you know, most of the games that are winning, most of the big games.
are are old all of them and i don't just mean mmos i mean even the mobas even the battle royales those are yeah look at the top 10 on steam yeah and see how you know how old some of those titles are gamers are really really putting their money into um into the sure bets into the games they know will be around that have lots of content that are still getting development that aren't risky and
Kind of makes me think of my, I was looking at my wife as an example of this, but myself as well. And she plays probably the same three video games. not at the same time just like for a period of time during the year she'll be playing um desktop tower defense and then part of the year she'll play world of warcraft and then part of the year she'll play tiny tower on her phone and those three games sat
satisfy her she's found them she doesn't really need to look anywhere else i've tried to introduce her to other titles she's like no i got what i want i got what i need i'm happy with these games they're satisfying to keep going back to time and again i don't know why but you know like i mean world of warcraft i know why but these other right right to each their own so i think a lot of times we've especially you know
I think there's a thesis paper here as we're talking about like older gamers and MMO populations and new MMOs struggling to find audiences. A lot of us are just maybe on the older side and I'm talking like 30 plus. where we've already done our searching. We found the MMO or MMOs we like, and they're very comfortable. They're very familiar. And so there's a lot less incentive for us to kind of forge out into new territory and be hungry.
new titles even though i mean obviously there is a hunger out there's there's excitement but it's not quite like it used to be and so like even myself like i've got i keep going back to the same mmos and keep going back to sims 4 you keep going back to RimWorld and some of these other titles and going, you know, I've kind of found what I need. And another game that comes along, a new game, really has to make a very strong case why I should want to play it. It's got to be something unique.
got to do something that's already been done but way better or it's got to draw on such a massive population that just by the sheer gravitational force of social media i get kind of pulled into that direction like That's a pretty big ask for a new game. And when a game like Seekers of Skyvale come along, it's not really answering any of that for me and probably not for a lot of people. End of speech.
No, you're not wrong. And it's just a bummer because it's not like, again, like I said, it's not like the games themselves suck. It's just that this is not the blue ocean you were looking for. There's not a lot of space here. Players themselves aren't willing to take risks and now the investors aren't willing to take risks and the studios aren't willing to take risks This is not this is not a great moment to be launching
All right. So on that note, let's talk about some new MMOs that want to grab our attention. It really isn't. In fact, I did want to kind of balance that story out with talking about some upcoming titles that we covered this week. And actually, both of these caught my eye. I thought, oh, this would be cool. Like, nothing major. We're not talking like Dune Awakening major. kind of interesting and so the first one that we reported on is called crosswind and it looks like it's
Is this a naval, like a pirate MMO? Age of piracy, age of sales stuff. But I don't, I don't know if I call it a naval. No, I mean, it has ships and stuff. That's fair. We should call it that. I just, when I think of like a naval MMO, I'm thinking of World of Warships. It's not exactly like that. This game is coming for like Sea of Thieves and Skull and Bones lunch. You know what I mean? Sure. But it's more of a survival sandbox than either of those. Okay.
so that that sets us some uh good expectations yeah so uh there this is still in development obviously still not it's still on the way are we able to play it yet or is this still i don't think they had a signups for future testing yeah yeah okay i was double checking i couldn't remember if this is the one that had the demo
it does not not yet yeah but you do get a ship it does it looks a little less cartoonish than sea of thieves but it definitely has that very high fantasy high adventure all the games swashbuckling look like this now yeah i'm a little tired of it it's getting my eyes are tired of it but it doesn't look terrible i mean
i like i anytime you put us in the tropics i'm already like that's a point in the game's favor we like pirates i think is the thing that justin and i are trying to say cartoon pirates not real pirates somebody always
comes at us like well actually in real life pirates are very bad we know are they i'm pretty sure that's where i got all my games back in the day on the high seas no i don't condone piracy um so yes once just once i mentioned to my wife like yeah pirates are cool and it lodged in her head like I was the biggest pirate fan ever. And so for my 30th birthday, I got like a pirate themed birthday, which admittedly was pretty cool. Like she had all these pirate games and we had.
treasure chests and yeah i still had a i had skull and bones flag on my wall for the longest time from that it was it was cool so yes pirates are pretty cool we've had so many pirate games though it does kind of um make me wonder if there's there's enough room or yes there is there is definitely but where are the ninja games huh
Everybody wants to buckle swashes. This is just going to be fun. Now, is it going to be anything like what MMORPG players want? That is a whole other game. They are calling it an MMO. Build, craft, survive. But it sounds like a survival box to me. I don't know. Like, didn't they say it was 100 versus 100?
No, see, I've got it mixed up with a different game I don't even think we're covering. Somebody else was talking last week about 100v100 PvP modes. This doesn't even say. They don't even say how big their zones are. So I don't know. Do you? What game am I talking about? I don't know the name of it. I remember seeing that 100 versus 100 thing. I'm like, oh, okay. Somebody tell Bree what she's talking about because now I'm going to look it up.
i know i typed 100 so when they talk about like that did not seem like an mmo to me but you know whatever you guys want oh that's the war born war born above ashes oh good lord That just trips off the tongue, doesn't it? That one isn't even out yet. So that'll be out tomorrow, I think.
So survival piracy game, is that like you have to have enough lemons or your crew gets scurvy? Somebody made that joke in the comments. They were joking about how Atlas apparently has like a vitamin management system, which has to be a joke, right? That has to be a joke. That's not real. They're at Atlas. We should look into whatever happened to Atlas because every time we do, it's bad. Like once a year. It always ends with womp, womp.
yes when every once a year i ask chris to look into it he comes back and he's like they're not doing anything and nobody's playing this game and i'm like oh really the game that was going to hold 10 000 person servers that came out of nowhere yeah
well you know it got overshadowed by the quinfall which created the greatest largest mmo you land that you've ever seen in your entire life so when we're saying we want to see better marketing out of studios we're not we're not just saying grand promise Don't do that. Take it down a notch. All right. The other title we want to talk about really quick is called Spirit Crossing. Yeah.
i was interested in this because i know from prior years when i've done these like mmos to look forward to in the new year that we kept looking at the spry fox spry fox was working on something and so it kept mentioning that like yeah they're making something don't know what it is now we know what it is it's called spirit crossing and it's kind of interesting not just for
kind of a really beautiful pastel-y color scheme that looks right out of a children's book, but also that it is a non-combat MMO. It's a nonviolent MMO project, which, you know, why bother at that point? There's no pirates. And no murder. What is this? Glitch? Come on, Bree. You could die in glitch. I mean. But was it violent? How could you die? If you if you ran out of your if you like.
um like over crafted honestly if you ran out of whatever that bar was called you would you would fall down into the underworld and then you had to do weird things to get out and one of them was like you had to stomp grapes I'm not making this up. I never actually died, but I saw pictures of other people doing this. How did I not know this? This is fantastic. That game was so weird. Like, whatever you think you knew about Glitch, you didn't know half of it. It was so weird.
I'm hoping this game is also weird. I don't know what to expect. Spry Fox actually gets played a lot as a studio. Their games actually get played a lot in my household because they made Alpha Bear and Alpha Bear 2, which are these little phone games that my husband has been upset.
with since like how long have they been like six or seven years he plays them every single night every single night before bed I'm not kidding every night and it's like sometimes he's made it up into like the top 20 in the world because they have these little tournaments every week He's very proud of himself. And I'm like, dude, how many people even play this game still?
But he's a very clever man is what I'm saying. So I really like the studio, but they've done other stuff that I know you guys have heard of. They did Cozy Grove and they did Road Not Taken. I guarantee you've heard of at least one of those. They're both really big. So you call this like Miyazaki.
Yes, it looks like Studio Ghibli, doesn't it? It does. I see it now. I love it so much. But like also not exactly the same. There's a there's a this art style is, you know, they're clearly going for almost a cyber. tech but like in a pretty cutesy way like cozy yeah a little bit they're calling it a cozy cooperative life sim focused on friendship and community two things i hate more than anything else in the world pirates aren't friends
I think it looks fun. It does look a little bit like Palea, but like cartoon Palea. And I know you're going, Palea is cartoony. That's not what I mean. I mean, literally, it's like a flat, almost a flat looking cartoon. Like somebody hand drew this. I love... this art style a lot and i want to see where they're going with it i i did i played cozy grove and i didn't really like it all that much i mean i thought it was okay but i got bored very quickly with it i'm hoping that this is not the same
i'm hoping they're just going in they're thinking bigger um this cozy grove obviously is not an mmo so i'm excited it i the looks are good i mean that's a huge thing in his favor making houses building things yeah i'm wondering what they can offer in addition to what like paleo does and other life sims do like how is it going to sell itself but i definitely think the the visuals are good
And did you say in here that there's a Fluffalo train? That's a direct quote, my friend. Fluffalo. I don't know what that is, but I love it. I want to ride on a Fluffalo train too. Yes. I will say that. when they first announced this four years ago when they were hiring for it they were definitely calling it an mmo
they aren't calling it an MMO anymore. And I don't know whether that is because it has changed because their marketing has changed or because they forgot. I don't know. I'm just throwing that out there. I don't know how big this is going. to feel when it's done. So that's my only caveat. They're doing this in cooperation with Netflix games. Yeah, Netflix bought them.
bought the studio a couple years ago the whole thing so i'm actually that made me a little nervous because netflix has dropped some of the studios that it purchased but apparently not this one Yeah. I mean, on the other hand, big marketing, public publicity dollars behind it. Sure. So there you go. Something to keep your eye on, especially if you've been looking for kind of something that's not.
constantly you know swords you know sword play and combat focus but rather more community and friendship focused yes you can build it's adorable definitely check it out there's a there's a little trailer here and you can get it quickly get a sense you gotta watch it i don't know what's happening gliders you got gliders so the paleo thing obviously is very good comparison there so yeah there you go a couple new titles uh crosswinds and
Spirit Crossing. What was that other title that you also mentioned? Don't make me pronounce it again. It was Warborn. Rural Juror. Warborn Above Ashes. Okay. Ugh.
So, yeah, there's there's always titles in the making and we'll see how these go and we'll continue to cover them. So it's kind of fun to see a couple of new faces on our. Yeah. Sometimes it's the same old games that we were always talking about. It's nice to see new ones pop. up now and then all right there we go for the podcast today we have covered a lot of news and we've just dumped it in your lap and yet my yogurt cup remains as empty as it began ah all right well
Time to go pirate up a yogurt train or something like that. Do they have yogurt trains? They would be very surprised if they saw a one-eyed bandito. I hope you'd steal something other than yogurt. I mean, just saying, if you're going to go for it, go for it. Just the probiotics alone will make me immortal. Oh, God. I'm tired. Don't know what I'm saying. You need to go take a nap and take care of yourself, bro.
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