¶ Marriage
Hello everyone , welcome to the Married AF podcast . We are back for the new year . We just want to let you know probably not the best idea to listen this particular episode with little ears around . It's not meant for children or maybe not even to be listened to in public .
The conversation can lead to things that only married adults need to talk about , and we would not recommend listening to this with children . Is that correct ?
Ear muffs .
Enjoy this episode .
Here's a question for you Is marriage overrated ?
Why aren't people getting married anymore ?
A new Pew Research poll found that two and five young adults think marriage is an outdated tradition .
Marriage rates are at their lowest right now . Is marriage really even worth it ? More than half of marriages end in divorce .
If you get married , you have to be stuck with this person for the rest of your life , right ? That's why you get married . So that's why it's declining . Why would you get married if you don't ?
if you want to have just one partner when you can have multiple .
Marriage is stupid .
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spell that that's going to be hard to find for people .
Starts with a W . I know that , holy moly . You can tell it's been a while . Ok , let's try that again . Welcome to the Married AF Podcast , not blah blah , blah , blah blah blah , not that one . Yeah , I couldn't get it out . Oh , we're back . Happy New Year .
Happy New Year .
I mean we . Last time we did this has been an entire year ago .
It has not been an entire year , Well it was 2023 .
It was last year . It was last year .
A year is 365 days . It's not .
And neither here nor there doesn't matter , but we're back . It's a happy new year . This is episode something or another .
And something or another . Is that what you're going to name this one ?
I don't know what episode number we're on , but we continue to climb . We continue to get more downloads , more views , more listens , more all of the things , and we just want to say thank you . Yes to all of those people who do that .
It's absolutely crazy to think where it's gone , the people it's reached , the people that are continuing to listen , the people that are continuing to come back . I don't know why you do it , but you do and we're thankful for that .
Yes .
On the social media . People are interacting , messaging , commenting , all that amazing stuff . So we really , really , really do appreciate that .
Yeah . I'm trying to give you a number on what number we're on , but I don't understand , because I'm looking at the statistics of all the things .
The stats .
And is this considered season four ?
No , no , we're still season three-ish . We're like television shows you don't know when they started , when they began , but whenever they end they just do . Let's see , we are on episode number 41 . You're guessing 41? . I mean , it might as well be , could be that .
I really don't know .
Don't know either , but I could tell you in about 10 seconds .
I'm just looking at 40 .
This is episode number 41 . I think you cheated .
I did Wow .
I don't know that you had got there yet or not . You really cheated on me on that , so that's so good . So I have no plan for this episode at all . We need to record one . We're coming out of like a nice deep hour and a half two-hour Bible discussion , bible debate , if you will say debate .
I just have questions that Maybe I think I'm a little crazy to think those things . I just think way outside the box on everything .
Yeah , you do .
I want to be able to explain it to non-believers .
Which is a beautiful , great and wonderful thing . But it was a good discussion . I thought maybe we got some clarification . We have to do ?
you think I'm crazy .
I think you're crazy in the perfect amount of way . You're not rock of love crazy , you're just perfectly my type of crazy . It's not like you've been on Flavor Flavie show or anything like that . The rock of love the rock of love was your jam . I don't know how many people actually watched that last .
What one season , how many times that Brett Michaels need to find new love ? Two or three seasons it went .
We went on for a while .
It's a popular show .
It was it was . Always said that that's . That was my turning point was you .
You looked at these women on rock of love going after beautiful , glorious Brett Michaels . They loved them . Some Brett Michaels with a headband , come on if that's how you see Brett Michaels . No , but that's how rock love did . For sure . Maybe they loved them . Some .
Brett Michaels and the poor guy just could not find love , so a TV show through like VH1 or MTV was definitely the way in which that was gonna happen . Of course so the people that it attracted you really realized quickly , like I don't want to end up like that .
Oh my god , I had a rock of love moment and I said I need Jesus .
Do you remember what that rock of love moment ?
was I do .
Let's hear it .
Why you ?
it's a great , that's a fantastic story . Please just share why ?
because you want to laugh hysterically , because I Get mad that you got Mayo instead of whipped dressing and I Attempted to throw my phone through a window and instead it missed the window and hit the wall , left a massive hole but did not break that crackberry .
No cuz blackberry Indestructible . But that was it . That was the moment was like . You know what I'm like that girl on rock of love who lost her mind because we're nothing . Yeah , Brett Michaels was more interested in girl over here whenever he told me he was interested in me and Lost my mind .
I lost my mind over Mayo .
Yeah , and that , listen in my defense . I'm gonna go to the grave with that one , but I see no difference . All right , they're the exact same thing . They look the same . I think they taste the same .
I'm gonna make you some mashed potatoes with both , and Then you can tell me if there's a difference listen . If it's , if you're making mashed potatoes , I'm okay to challenge or potato salad , or whatever I Was trying to make for this event .
Well , listen , they look exactly like they're packaged the exact same way . They're on the same shelf right next to each other at the grocery store . Very , very simple mistake . But I'm happy that you had your rock of love moment and you quickly realized I don't want to end up like those girls who are vying for the love of Brett Michaels .
I just remember I stormed off . I was fuming mad when in reality I should have been so thankful that you decided to go to the store and get all the things we needed so I could get ready .
Let me just real quick . Let me tell you the amount of confusion I had in that moment , why you were so furious .
I know .
I had no clue . I was like what is she talking about ? This is this , is this is the stuff .
It's the exact same stuff and I storm off to our bedroom , slam the door , throw the phone that's Sit in the floor and I'm just .
I'm standing in the kitchen looking at my , my bottle of mayonnaise , jar of mayonnaise , thinking what's wrong with this , and I just hear thud like what in the world happened back there ?
But then what did you hear ?
laughing , laughing , like what is happening back here . I had a revelation through my phone through the window . But I missed the window and I hit the wall and I put a hole in the wall and , sure enough , there's just a little hole in the wall , crackberry laying on the floor . And then that was the moment , like you know what .
I'm an idiot , I'm probably not gonna last very long if I continue to go down this route . So let's change some things a little bit , and I'm so thankful you did laughing , just laughing hysterically , because I was an idiot . I will say that was not your brightest moment , definitely not .
But it was literally in the moment when I realized , oh my God , I have turned into the rock of love . I'll say , it's all been up .
It's all been up hills . Don't want to say uphill , but it's all been up from there Like you're . You're progressing a good way . Up hill sounds bad .
Cause I can't walk uphill .
I'm walking up hills , terrible , all downhill , but that sounds bad . You know what I mean .
But why do people ? When you get to 40 , they're saying you're over the hill , it's a lot easier to go down that hill .
It is much easier to go down that hill .
What is that about ?
I don't know , but we watched this as 40 the other night , just because we're 40 now .
Because we watched it when we were 30 .
We did and you know , looking back at , it now , with no kids at that .
No kids , we had no kids .
At that point in time and man looking at it now this is hilarious . Can feel maybe just a little bit of this .
Not a lot of it Going on , not a lot of it , not a lot of it , I mean we're not , you know you're not .
You're not sneaking cigarettes in the bathroom or anything like that .
Or you're not sneaking cupcakes .
Sneaking cupcakes drowned in water in the sink , just to eat more cupcakes .
I can't tell my husband this because I don't know how much money we're having or we're not giving money to our parents behind each other's back , kind of thing .
Yeah . Or sneaking off to the bathroom to play scrabble just to get away from the family for half an hour Exactly .
So there are very , very few things that we can relate to , but man , it's fun Age wise and sex wise ? Maybe yes , Because we do have children now and they had children .
So they did and you know , when you get older and trying to have sex with children around , it's not the easiest thing in the world .
It's a great way to kill your sex life .
Yeah , it absolutely can , but you can't let that happen . No , you got to do whatever you whatever it takes .
Kids just don't need to come around much .
Not say much , but it's good for them to like hey kids , why don't you , all you know , go outside for a while , don't ?
you want to spend the night with your friends tonight .
Yeah , I got it , so it wouldn't be fun to you know go .
We can't ever get our cash to spend the night with anybody .
No , that dude is like staying here for life . He's never going anywhere . You know we talk about . You know we always make the joke like , oh , only this many more years and both kids are out of the house . But I don't know who we're kidding . Cash is never leaving , ok you ?
probably won't either . That kid's going to be there forever .
Yeah , she's getting closer and closer , so it's going to be like mom .
Me and my husband are living in the basement now .
No , why Go ? I love you , but go .
You going to pay the mortgage to ?
Nope .
Nope . Not going to happen , so house is not big enough for four families . Bye .
I think we did that intentional . I think this is the perfect spot . It's good enough for us .
So we should downsize , maybe we should downsize a studio apartment .
That was just us . We can move to the city .
We can go on house hunters , we can always get that little high rise condo without the maintenance of a yard , or you know .
I might be OK with that .
It's not a bad idea now either , though .
No , no , it's because we don't have pets . No , we do not have to take out and walk . Yeah , I did listen , I'd be OK with that . But yeah , it's fun to watch that and kind of be like , hmm , I relate to a little bit there and boy , this is funny .
And the thing is so many other people do go through that type of stuff so it was kind of funny , funny to watch . That's the beauty of 40 .
I guess so .
Listen . I think 40 has been awesome . I'll be 41 in two weeks . I think 40 has been amazing .
It's been a cool year .
It's been an awesome year .
I haven't had a year of in 240 yet .
No , but you're what ? Four months in ? Yeah , you're going into four months and you don't look like you're 40 . You're going to pass from .
Let's not talk about what I look like right now .
I'm not Shut up . Oh my gosh , I don't even want to hear it . You're ridiculous .
I have been the same weight since the wreck I know this Two years . I've had two surgeries that have kind of slowed me down from actually working out Now . Granted , I know all of that is diet more than exercise , but I have a relationship with food .
I love food .
But if my weight is not going up a number , can somebody please tell my face that I'm not pregnant ?
You're not . I promise you , I know I'm not .
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It is absolutely impossible for you to be pregnant . Impossible for you to be pregnant .
It was impossible for Mary to be pregnant too , but she gave birth as a virgin .
Just saying , just saying .
God would have a horrible sense of humor if that were to ever have it .
But Listen , I love God and I love Jesus . But if he were to do that , we'd have some words like what the heck man ?
Like what do you do ? We would have to move .
Like what are you thinking right now ?
We don't have room for another job of all the people .
We've had two kids . All right . You someone else in this matter ?
We multiplied . Okay , we were free .
And we multiplied , we multiplied quickly .
But my face still looks like I'm pregnant .
You're , you're .
I got a pregnant nose and I'm like so fat right now that my eyelids are fat . Matthew powers , I've been telling you this for weeks Like how do you get so fat that your eyelids are fat ?
I've never heard of that before and I think you're crazy . Your eyelids are not fat .
I just want them removed . Just cut them off like this . I've even tried those stupid things that they're like pieces of tape . Oh , put them here . They don't work , care how much your infomercial tells me they work .
That's your problem right there . Infomercial see these like oh man , these look like they're going to work perfectly . Let me try some of that .
Let me tell you , new makeup is not working to make them look like they're not there . Maybe this is 40 .
This is for eyelids .
It's a new thing . It's going to catch on .
It is . It's going to be trending now . Fat eyelids are a thing I've never heard .
Your mama , so fat her eyelids are .
Have you a new mama joke .
You're welcome .
So why , why , why not ? I think you're beautiful . Well , thank you , you don't look like you have a pregnant nose . I didn't know pregnant nose was a thing . Your eyelids are not fat .
I'm just going to keep my eyebrows up like this at all times at all times , so they don't look like they're not blank . And look , you can see my eyeballs like this I can't see your eyeballs Unbelievable .
So let me ask you some questions . Good , this will be fun , because why not ? You know , this is just an episode where we just talking about fat eyelids and this is 40 and kids moving out of the house and all that fun stuff . So new year , you know , new year , new me that's what everyone says . They have their New Year's resolutions .
I am not everyone .
I know , but that's what everyone says . Listen , just just follow me along the trail here .
I'm not a follower . What hours get it out ?
What's the biggest thing plaguing marriage today ?
What is the biggest thing ?
plaguing marriage . Why are marriages continuing to fail day after day , year after year ? Everyone started this year and like this is the year for us . We're going to , we're going to be better , we're going to get help , we're going to do this , we're going to do that , and that happens every single year . And marriage rates are continuing to decline .
Divorces are continuing to climb .
¶ The Impact of Porn on Relationships
Why , well , why do you think that it's so bad ?
There could be a number of reasons , but the most popular one maybe yes , hmm . I'm going to have to go with and I'm Could totally be wrong , but I'm going to go outside the normal box here with , I think , communication is it . Well , yeah of course , that's always every problem To solve . Communication .
You're right . What's the root of it , though ? Why ? Why in the world ? Why can't we get this right , especially in a world where we have so many means to communicate , right ? Why can we not get this right ?
We're selfish . I'm going to get mine before I can get you . You're going to get yours .
Where that coming . I just I don't know , where does that come from , though , like why ? Why can we not get this right ? We cannot figure it out .
We need to drink more water , exercise more , get more endorphins Endorphins make you happy , and happy people just don't shoot their husbands and have more sex .
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Actually I did see a study like a week or so ago .
Sex is , exercise is great cardio . It is great cardio I don't care if it's 10 minutes .
People are actually having less sex now than like in a very , very , very long time .
Interesting .
They are .
That sucks . That is a problem for them .
It does suck for them . It does suck for them Big time , I agree . I think it's part of selfishness A lot of it that people just want .
But if you're selfish , I mean still selfish . People want to have sex .
Well , yeah , they do , but the thing is that they're . The problem that they're going towards is and it's these stupid things right here , it's this stupid thing that I'm typing on right here , it's all . The technology
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is Like porn is a multi-billion dollar industry .
Yes , but there's zero . I don't understand how you can have any expectations watching porn .
You can't it's fake .
It's not real . But do people really know that ? The people that are watching it do they know ?
I think it starts where you know and then it gets to the point where you believe that that's reality .
Well , that's called pathological liar . Well , it's just that someone that lies so much , starts believing all of their own lies .
Well , they're believing that this is what it's supposed to look like , and then , whenever they do experience it and it's not that at all they get let down , and then they go back to that source and people are having affairs with .
People that think that they actually make that porn a fantasy .
Yes .
A reality .
Well , they're having . They're having affairs with porn . They're having affairs with the things that they're seeing online .
Rather than so they'd rather take matters into their own hands , literally , instead of sharing that moment with their spouse .
The most eloquently way you could have put it absolutely .
Literally their own hands .
Yes , they would rather take matters into their own hands rather than have their wife do that for them , that they'd rather take just a few minutes to get that thing , that rush of energy and that rush of you know , dopamine that hit to make them feel so good for just a second , rather than experience that with their spouse .
And I cannot wrap my brain around it at all .
This might be a little vulgar , but there is nothing my hands can do to replace the real you .
This is true . Yes , you're right , you're exactly right .
I don't watch porn .
I've said it before porn is not just ruining relationships and marriages , but they're ruining people .
And maybe this is just us , but porn is boring . I'm sorry , I'm not just going to walk into a room and role play and , oh my gosh , mr Blah , blah , blah , what are you doing here ?
No , you're not just because I don't watch porn now .
Doesn't mean I haven't watched it . No , I don't watch for the acting . You're not looking for the storyline .
I don't need a storyline .
The horrible you know funky movies that they try to reenact . I mean yeah it's all .
it's all dumb , that's what it's .
My sex life is better than a porn .
Oh , far better , way , way , way better than it could , could ever be . On a stupid screen .
I write and I feel like maybe if people were to have sex more and not worry about how you look when you're having sex , because it's not , it's not being videoed , it's not being put out there on the interwebs , or it shouldn't be , at least .
I mean it shouldn't be , it should not be . I mean crazier things have happened .
That's , that's intimate , that's between you and your spouse .
It's supposed to be that way , but you're right . I guess it doesn't always happen that way , I mean , unless you're Rachel and Ross and you know , forget about it .
And I'm going to go back and watch later , that's right . And then hit no , no , no , no , no , no .
That looks good , oh , oh , oh , no no .
I mean , I just feel like porn is boring . Well , porn's ruining , its ruins relationships ?
Absolutely does , because men , men is mostly , women are , women are too . There was another study they like 48 percent of all women watch porn on the regular , so that number is climbing , which is telling me that their man is not fulfilling what they need .
Well to me , that's telling me that they'd both rather go off and do their own separate thing by themselves rather than do that together , which I think is one thing . That is one thing , huge things that's plaguing marriage today . But I think you're right , it goes back to selfishness . Or selfish we don't care about anyone else , we care about getting ours .
That sucks Right .
But if you are a woman , you're not going to be a woman , if you are like for us , most of the time we're , we're . It's been too many days .
Get that , I switch .
I'll send a text message . I cannot get this switch to go away . It's been two days . That is my , oh , my gosh .
It's like it's past time . Like it's past time and got to figure out how to make it happen , like Gloria Stephon .
And people have sex . I don't know what people's sex lives are like , because I don't ask people , but maybe they should ask their spouses , because how are you going to know if my eye is twitching and we don't ? Ok , so I'm at the school and you're at work . Yeah , we're apart during the day .
Yeah , and we're not . We're not together and we're not able to constantly . We talk to out the day . We text today . We don't . We're not constantly talking to each other .
No , but if I don't tell you , baby there , this needs to be fixed , you wouldn't know .
I think you know we have a , we have a pretty pretty . It's not a hard and fast rule , but like when it , when it's time , when that eye starts twitching and you're , you're feeling it , it's like , hey , we have to like , we got to like now , we got to get this taken care of immediately . Are there times ?
Yes , there are times where it just doesn't happen that night , for whatever reason .
Just can't happen . Life happens , we understand that kids happen , but that does not stop the tension between you and I . No because I'm not going to go to our closet , close the door or the bathroom or wherever , and lock the door and watch some kind of stupid little porn to make myself feel better for that little bitty .
No , you need tiny second , because I know that what's gonna happen , that tension is gonna make it even better . It does that sexual tension sometimes can be even just make it even better , Because when you pass each other and you kinda grab my butt , it's like oh .
Just makes it go a little bit further .
Our skin touches like oh my goodness , those kind of things . But people are too selfish to wait .
Well they are and what are kind of go to . And again , it's not a hard and fast of what if we have that day and it just does not happen for whatever reasons , like the kids can be sick , they can have a scary dream or they can just be up late .
Or you can just fall asleep in the eight o'clock hour and forget . Hey , my wife was like yeah , my eyes twitching .
Yeah , ha ha , ha , ha , ha , ha , ha , ha , ha , ha , ha , ha , ha , ha , ha , ha , ha ha . That may or may not have happened yesterday . Ha ha , ha , ha , ha , ha , ha , ha , ha , ha , ha , ha , ha , ha ha ha . Listen , I was tired . I don't know what happened , but that can happen .
But you didn't catch me doing something to get that quick little fix . Oh , he can fix itself . I'm getting mine now .
Listen with how tired I was last night . You probably could have had an action movie going on in my next day and I would have never known , because . I was dead to the world .
You didn't even know I came to bed .
No , I had no clue , you were in bed .
Like .
I saw you this morning . I was like I don't remember going to bed last night . You're like . You didn't even kiss me goodnight last night .
I get in the bed and you just I was out .
But what I'm trying to get to is it may not happen , like when you're both , you need it , right . But our kind of go to is like , yeah , that may happen . Where we're just not able to , for whatever reason , we're not going to go more than 24 hours without making sure that that happens . It's just not going to happen .
We're going to set time aside , we're going to make sure it happens , because you can't just continue to go on having that need to be met because you're not going to be able to focus on anything else whatsoever . It just just doesn't work that way .
What's your next question ?
All right . So let me ask , it's cause you asked ? You talked about the communication and everything , and maybe this is going to get a little too personal .
Oh boy .
So how is the sex ? How is sex life ?
Ours .
Yes Ha ha . Is that something I want to tell people ? Is there anything you want to change on that ?
What do you mean change ?
To make it better .
No .
Okay , perfect .
Because every time sorry Gigi and whatever family member listens , but I swear , I tell you , every single time we have sex , just when I think it can't get any better , it gets better .
It gets better and better and better .
It's not like , yeah , we do , we do different , but it's not the boring old stupid .
Stupid , it's not the same old boring thing .
White missionary position . Oh my gosh .
Oh , you are hilarious .
How is sex being boring ?
I mean , yeah , I can , that don't Maybe that's why people go to porn .
They think , oh yeah , let's see what's happening over here .
Maybe so , but I agree To get back to adventure out people . Hey , that menu , talk about that menu .
Bring the test kitchen on .
Get that test kitchen , say , hey , baby , tonight I want to try this and dad , come at you . Better go along with it , as long as it's not harming you , harming the other person or going to be a killer for your marriage or your relationship . You have to . You don't have a choice , you got to do it .
You never know until you try .
You got to do it . Whether you , whether you disagree with it or not , you got , you have to . You have no choice but to have to try that .
So Ballsy question powers . I did .
I had no agenda for this episode and I didn't expect it to get here whatsoever , but you brought it there . What am I going to do ? So , all right . Next , next kind of little question here , cause we talked about what's plaguing marriages more than anything . What's one thing and not have sex ?
You've already said that for those who are struggling , what's the one thing that they can do to kind of turn that around ?
Talk to somebody , such as when you have a problem with anybody , like we we typically do this with students and when someone you can tell someone's going through something and they will come to you and just that's sigh , let them talk . You don't have to respond . My issue is , let's say , my issue is letting them get it all out to someone who is not .
They're more of a neutral person . They're not going to give you advice , they're just going to let you talk . I always go . Okay , do you need to talk right now or do you need to cry right now ? The amount of times that the girls have just sat there and cried , it's unbelievable .
They don't have to talk , they just need to get it out and it makes them feel better . But is days do not go by before they come back and say , hey , can I talk ? Because once they know that they can talk , it's a no judgment zone . They are there to get it off their chest or to tell you how they're feeling .
It's amazing what happens when you just talk about things .
I know I say communication and I've been asked what kind of communication . I've not really been sure how to answer that question until like right now . It just hit me . It's not through a cell phone , not through email , like talking in person . Not text messages , not direct messages , not any social media platforms , not typing it out anywhere .
Not even a FaceTime .
No , you cannot feel someone's energy and what they are feeling until you are in the same room with them .
I totally agree with that .
Whether it's a therapy kind of session , find the therapist . That's where I've been . You don't like it . Therapists , go somewhere else .
There's plenty of them out there . Yeah , you're right , there are plenty .
Even with marriages . I mean , we do marriage counseling .
Yeah .
And we just listen .
About 85, . 90% of it is just listening . Just listening and not trying to repair their world , but listening and just giving them advice and just try to align them and point them in a better direction .
Yeah , because people just seem to be scared to talk .
They are , and I just , yeah , we'll wrap up with that . But just want to say real quick if that is , if
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your marriage and relationship is struggling and it's falling apart before your eyes , know that it's not just you , it's like it's everywhere . So many all over the place are crumbling Don't feel ashamed that it's just yours that is bad , it is just yours that's falling apart .
The sad reality is so many marriages are failing and relationships are failing , so don't feel like you're alone , because you're not , and I mean even us . We can speak to that because we had times in our relationship that were not good at all . It was bad and it was failing badly .
We can relate to that Because we were selfish .
Big time and I firmly believe , because we've experienced nearly everything , I don't think there's really much of anything people could go through or have gone through that we have not experienced in some way and can speak to that . And if we made it , so will you ? We're not special in any way .
There's nothing amazing about us that all that allowed us to get through it and someone else can't . You can , you absolutely can . So that would be my word of the wise is don't feel like you're alone . You're definitely not alone .
Couldn't agree more .
We gotta get out of here when are we going Wanna ? come home . Wanna come home . Oh my goodness , that was fun . We're gonna get out of here . God , we love you and we're just thankful to be able to laugh and just have this platform that you've created and just wanna speak to people . As we said , people are struggling . They're not alone in this .
We want those people to know that they're not alone . They have any problems , any issues . If they just need to get something off their chest , allow this to be an outlet to allow them to find the people that they need , cause you can restore all things and you are good . In Jesus' name , we pray amen .
Play ball .
