¶ Marriage
here's a question for you is marriage overrated ?
why aren't people getting married anymore ?
a new pew research poll found that two and five young adults think marriage is an outdated tradition marriage rates are at their lowest right now .
Is marriage really even worth it ?
more than half of marriages end in divorce .
If you get married , you have to be stuck with this person for the rest of your life , right ? That's why you get married .
So that's why it's declining . Why would you get married if you ?
don't if you want to have just one partner when you can have multiple .
Marriage is stupid .
Welcome to the Married AF podcast , the self-proclaimed greatest marriage and relationship podcast in the world . We are your hosts , matthew and Monica Powers . Back how you doing baby .
Why do you say that we're back ?
Because we're back . We've done this before and we're here again , so therefore we are back . Unless someone's listening for the very first time , then welcome for the first timer who has never heard of us or listened to us before . But we thank you for being here . Hopefully you find some value and comedy and laughter and all that fun stuff out of all of this .
I got one for you today that you're going to love . I've already kind of told you a little bit about what it is but I'm listening to a clip . You're listening to a clip and we'll get to it whenever we get a little closer to it . But thank you to everyone who's listening , who's watching , who does all of the things .
We love you and we are thankful for it . Two things real quick before we jump in , because there's a whole lot to get to today and we don't want to run like an hour and a half . We're trying to keep it a clean 30 minutes and get up on out of here .
All right .
First , little Red Sox talk . Red Sox stink . They're depressing . Enough of the Red Sox talk Gen Z Bible time . I can't talk about them . They make me so sad . We're in acts , chapter 16 , and this is where paul and silas are just cruising doing their thing . They cast out , uh , the demon from the girl . They get thrown in jail . It's where they're .
You're praying middle of the night . You know the the earthquake . Well , we'll start in verse 18 . This is the girl . She kept at it for days and Paul was getting ticked off . He turned to the spirit and was like yo , in the name of Jesus Christ , get out of her . And the spirit bounced immediately .
When her bosses saw that their money-making scheme went down the drain , they grabbed Paul and Silas and dragged them to the marketplace , straight to the rulers . They were like these Jews are causing so much trouble in our city , man . They accused them of teaching customs that were against Roman law , which we , as Romans , could not accept or follow .
The crowd got all worked up and the rulers got pissed off , tore their clothes and ordered them to be beaten . They whipped the crap out of Paul and Silas and tossed them into the prison , commanding the jailer to keep them locked up tight . The jailer followed orders , shoved them into the inner prison and secured their feet in stocks .
It was midnight and Paul Make sure you get the socks . Stocks , not socks Okay .
I thought you said socks , socks are important .
What is this , mr Deeds ? That is that who ? The jailer is ? Sneaky , sneaky . It was midnight and paul and silas were praying and jamming out to god singing praises . The other prisoners were listening and suddenly a massive earthquake hit , shaking the whole prison to its core . All the doors flew open and everyone's shackles fell off .
The jailer woke up and saw the open doors freaked out and pulled out a sword , thinking the prisoners escaped , and he was ready to off himself . But Paul shouted at him hold up , don't do anything crazy . We are all still here . The jailer called out for a light , rushed in trembling like crazy and fell down before Paul and Silas .
He brought them out and asked yo sirs , what do I gotta do to be saved ? That's a good one . Them socks , them socks . Man , you gotta watch out for them socks . What do you think ?
pretty dead on yeah , it was really relatively good .
They whipped the crap out of paul and the real was ready to off himself right then . Right there , ready to go . I , I , I could feel your laughter . I wasn't even looking at you , I could feel your laughter . I wasn't even looking at you , but I could feel your laughter coming at me .
I was excited that the Bible said pissed .
It did say pissed and whipped the crap out of , which is always great . So let's get into today .
¶ Do We Need Men?
Um , there's this idea , and we've touched on it occasionally , every now and again . But this whole idea of men and women being equal and that we are the same and we know we are not the same that's what makes men and women awesome in their own right is because we're not the same .
But just there's been more of this idea coming around that men really aren't needed anymore , that women can do everything a man can do , and we've been hard on this stance that there are things that men are far better at than women , and there are things women are far better at than men . I mean , when God created Adam , what did he say ?
It's not good , it's straight up like not good , like just can't have man roaming around doing his own thing , cause men can be dumb sometimes and we can do dumb things sometimes . And he made Eve the helper . But there's this idea going around that men are useless and no longer needed . So I've got a clip that I'm going to play .
It's a little longer than I would like , but we need the whole clip to be able to fully grasp what's going on . And then I'm going to really kind of go through a breakdown of what this whole idea of men are useless and are not needed could perhaps really look like . So bear with me for just a second .
It's a little thing , I have to be quiet .
You're going to have to be quiet , you're going to have to hold in everything that's going on . You can get some paper , you can take some notes , that's perfectly fine . But this clip is from everyone's favorite show daytime television . Show daytime television the view oh jesus , it's four minutes long , but you , you , just you .
You need it to be able to grasp the entire thing . So go ahead and listen to this . Do we need men ?
most answered very quickly no , and only one said she thought women needed a man in their lives , only one . But when men were asked a similar question do we need women ? Most of them said yes .
So why do you think that is because men are useless and , by the way , I wanted , I want to differentiate between straight men and gay men , because I think I would die without gay men . Nobody Nobody can gossip like gay men , nobody can help you accessorize like gay men , nobody can help you from keep you from doing harm to yourself like gay men .
But with the exception of somebody like Steve . I think Steve is very self-sufficient . That's Joy's husband , he is my husband . It takes a village of women to make sure that he's not emaciated , starving and living in his own filth . He can , you know , yeah , but you guys feel you guys are married to people that are more .
I have handy Manny at home . He fixes everything . When things go bump in the night , he's the one that goes downstairs . When there's a bug to be exterminated , he does the extermination Nope . When there is something to be exterminated , he does the extermination no . When there is something to be fixed , he fixes it .
He throws out the trash and he throws out the recyclables .
I enjoy all the man stuff so my wait a second , I know what you're gonna say . She's really talking about a servant . Let's face it . No , it's a handyman she's talking about a handyman . It's a handyman with benefits . We do not well , but the things that you're describing , you could pay somebody to do that . We're not talking about that .
What about the inner life of a man ? That's ?
what this is about . I need my man three to four times a week and then the rest of the time I need a wife , because I've always said that Everyone needs a wife . No , I teased Vicky , my producer , in the morning .
I was like if you'd like to join Max and I not in that way , but like Vicky and I could kill it as household runners Like we would be laughing , giggling , doing all the things and Max would be so psyched I was wasting all my words somewhere else anyway . So it would be a perfect combo . And the other day Caleb said to me this is my youngest son .
He said Mama , I want a spare mom and I didn't know what he meant . And he's like . He said Genevieve has a spare mom and I realized the parents were divorced . No , a divorced an extra mom , like two moms . And so I asked him , because at first I was a little wounded . I was like what am I not doing ?
And he's like no , I just think at bedtime you have to pay attention to the other kids too . And if we had a spare mom , you dad and you could , you know , then you just get a focus on me .
And it was so sweet he didn't ask for a spare dad , by the way I took this totally differently in how I prepped because , broadly speaking , I feel like men have proven largely useless , like , I think , in the political moment , the people who are saying what needs to be said in my party , it's all women .
The very few men , with the exception of of Mike Pence and a few others , are saying what they need to . But in life I need my husband . I don't know if I need any other men , but he is irreplaceable .
Yeah , I think so , but that's the whole thing .
We like our husbands . We just don't need men beyond that .
Yeah wait till you're married 20 years and you'll see how replaced they are .
I think that the reason , the reason women can stay married for as long as they do , is because they have a lot of girlfriends . They have a village , they have girlfriends . Because I always have to initiate the conversations , he'll step up , but I have to start them . I thought you were going to say initiate . I just told you guys .
I have eight girlfriends from Panama here who are girlfriends for 50 years , since they were in kindergarten . Oh I love that . And they were saying yesterday that they've gone through divorces , they've gone through challenges and having that village of women has made it possible for them , but we are more collaborative than men .
I think there have been studies that say that women have much closer friendship relationships than men do .
Again , I think we have to make a difference , differentiate gay men . No , gay men are in their own category .
Yeah , but we're not married to gay men , okay , oh , but women have conversations about their feelings .
Men talk about sports cars , all that stuff , I don't know . My husband talks about his feelings with his friends . Maybe he's gay .
All right , now breathe for just a minute , because I know you're writing , you're still taking notes , you're losing your mind with this whole clip . But I've got ideas , I've got situations , I've got things to walk through . But I just kind of want to get your knee-jerk initial reaction of this idea . Men are useless . We don't need them .
Breathe , take a deep breath . Initial thoughts .
¶ Men Are Useless
The fact that millions of women watch this piece of garbage show to begin with breaks my heart my heart . If you're getting your advice from unhappy women who are putting down their husbands on national television and they're willing to do that , that's not something you need to be watching .
The only good men are gay men , apparently apparently , especially according to the , the I don't know who the , who the woman was I don't know any of those people's names uh joy behar was the main one she's the one who asked the question .
That's the only one I remember the only reason I know her name is because of the hangover oh yeah , see , I was thinking I know her name because of uh longest yard .
The prisoner who loved joy behar , love watching the jv on joe that was .
That's all I know .
Alan and his bag .
Yes , she wears a bag Apparently .
I know nothing about her .
I get it I don't even know what she looks like , where to start .
Start from the top .
I would die without gay men .
This is the same woman that said her wait till you've been married 20 years also the same . I have that written down also the same woman who said my husband needs a village of women , uh , otherwise make sure he's not living in his filth and bed . Yeah , um , her poor husband .
Like she just went on national television in front of you , right , millions of people , and basically said my husband's worthless without me .
There was only one person on there that talks great about her husband .
Right .
And then she's talking about how great he is and he does all the things . If something goes bump in the nine , he's there . If something needs to be fixed , it's done . And people started clapping like , yeah , I need my husband , I love my husband , with not even a second to spare . They're hounding her . Oh , that's just a handyman , you don't really need him .
He's just blah , blah , blah , blah . Instant negativity .
Right .
Is this the same ?
uh , no , that was a different woman , but the woman who said her husband was irreplaceable the only two positive things I got out well she hired her . She said her husband's irreplaceable . But she began by saying I think men have proven themselves by and large useless . Well , that was the same woman .
She's good with her husband , but every other man stinks and doesn't has no purpose in being around
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well , we've said this plenty of times men and women are not supposed to be friends outside of marriage that you're not wrong . So if you have a brother , fine , your father , fine . Are they forgetting about those people ?
well , not even just necessarily those people , but this whole idea .
What if you have a son ? Well , this whole idea they're going to be someone's husband one day .
That men are purely useless is crazy . Men are needed , women are needed . We are both clearly needed .
Well , obviously one of the women need an extra mommy .
She does .
I don't care what they
¶ (Cont.) Men Are Useless
said , it's not a stepmom , it's a n . We are both clearly needed . Well , obviously one of the women need an extra mommy . She does , I don't care what they said , it's not a stepmom , it's a nanny . Anyone on those type of shows that have those friends ? Everybody got a nanny because you are only friends with somebody because of the social status and money .
Your son needs your attention . He wants another mom because you have way too much going on in your life to give him the attention he needs . You'd rather be on tv bashing your husband when in reality , you just put your own self in a grave because your son needs another nanny . He didn't ask for another dad , he didn't .
He wants a second mom or a bonus mom . You're right . He should only need one mom . If you were doing your job , he wouldn't ask for another one . So , women being useless hmm , maybe that needs to be the topic of . Men are useless . No , women , what are you doing ?
Sitting right there talking nothing good about your husband , except maybe two people , but you're guilty by association . So these women that are hanging out with these dummies ?
useless . Well , another thing is the pure applause of yeah , man , I'm buying a large useless . Yeah , my husband can't do anything without women around .
It's just completely , completely missing the mark , wait till 20 years , that'll change . That was when the woman said her husband is irreplaceable .
Irreplaceable .
But then she goes on , that same woman that said the 20 years . She also goes on to say and I have to start the conversation . Yep , and I've got he'll he'll I initiate it and he'll start talking back .
but and I will . I got some notes . I'll get to that in just a second .
So men talk about nothing but sports , nothing else .
I've got , got , I've just told you hold slow your roll for that one .
I got something for that all right , so so I went down this this should have gotten me .
I went down this , I tried . You said pressure is high you said , nope , I just want to hear it and I want to , I want to react to it the very first time . So I went down a rabbit hole with this idea , because this whole segment on the view came from a trend where people are just asking people out in the wild . Yeah , this was like a month ago .
What , asking people out in the wild like hey , do you need a man ? Do you need to be asking ? And all the women like no , no , no , no , no . And that's kind of where the conversation started that one of the 12 said that that they needed that they did . Only one of the 12 said that they needed that they did .
Only one of the 12 said that they needed a man . Just one of the 12 . All the other ones said no , I don't need a man whatsoever . So let's just let's look at this in a very granular level . Let's look at it for what it's saying Men are useless and we don't need men . So what would the world look like if that happened ?
I did some research here's kind of the idea of this men are useless thing . The first thing that we're going to see happen is there are going to be complete social and cultural shifts on what humans are supposed to be . You eliminate men from the picture completely . Women take the role of everything . Social norms are gone , traditional families are gone .
All the things that we've all known are going to completely begin to disappear . You're going to start to see labor shortages . Why ? Because there's a lot of jobs in the world that we must have that the high , high majority of only men are able and willing to do that job .
Here's some examples of that .
All fields in the engineering world are strictly men . The armed forces , police services 87% of all policemen are men . Firefighters 92% . The construction industry 98% are all men . Oil workers 99%
¶ The Future of Male Exclusion
. Mining and quarry workers 99% . Steel workers , politicians , agriculture , pilots , forestry mechanics , HVAC , electrical appliances , plumbing , landscaping , computer programming , engineers all of that is high majority men . So let's eliminate men from the world . Those jobs are things that are going to be have to be taken by women .
Okay , Can women do some of those jobs ? Absolutely , they can take training , take a lot of work . It's not easy , it's very risky , Um , it can be very dangerous , but women could eventually take on those jobs . Are there enough women to actually go on and take those jobs and accept those jobs and excel at those jobs to be able to make it ?
The answer is no . So what's that's going to do ? Is it's going to rely on humanity , which is strictly mostly women ? Now , if we go down this idea , it's going to be mostly automated and AI generated to fill in the labor gaps , because there's going to be a huge amount of labor gaps .
You know , the cars that we drive , the phones we use , the computers we use , all the things that we're used to on a day-to-day basis are going to cease to exist . You're going to see medical issues . You're going to see mental health issues . You're going to see all sorts of problems .
There's going to be instability throughout the world geopolitical instability , resource management , logistics all of that is going to go away . This is something that's not sustainable . But let's not forget the most important part of all this there will be a decline in population .
Clearly , you eliminate anybody else coming in this world you eliminate men from the picture .
Yes , there's going to be a decline in the population . Now it says sperm banks , of course , would be huge . That's how women would help populate the earth would be through sperm banks .
Well , you've got to get rid of men . You've got to get rid of that .
No , no , but there are some built up . There's all sorts of technologies . I said something else that would have to be done .
So if they have boys , do they kill them ? Are we just a woman-only nation ?
They would just eventually all begin to die off . So here's kind of what we would be looking at . This idea of cloning would have to be something that would come to fruition to be able to do that . So what we would initially look like in years 1 through 10 , if we just eliminated men from the picture completely .
Sperm banks and IVF treatment would sustain some level of reproduction , but it's not something that is long-term sustainable . We would be looking at a decrease in population over the years .
Which would not be bad for the world .
but and some things , maybe Nothing would be able to be stabilized . Yes , some manufacturing would be stabilized , some engineering , mechanical processes , some of that would get stabilized , but again , it's not sustainable .
So estimation if we were to eliminate men from the planet completely by year 50 , we would have a decline in population down to about 4 billion people . There's currently about 8 billion people on earth .
At year 100 , if we continue down this , even with advanced technologies , even if the cloning process were something that was able to be done and work , where women are able to reproduce and continue to populate the world without men decreased in population , we look down to about 1.5 billion .
If this continued this idea that men are useless and men are not needed and we are just completely wasteful beings by 300 years we will be looking at the extinct extinction of humanity across the world . Men are useless . Here's why this is fascinating . Here's why this is also scary . Article in April of 2024 in the wall street journal .
Also , this is done by the CDC . I've seen declining birth rates across the world since 2007 and 2023 . It reached a record low of 1.62 , being the birth weight . This is 1.62 .
Weight or rate Rate . Birth rate R-A-T-E yes .
The amount of births per woman is down to 1.62 as of 2023 . It is estimated that for population to be sustainable they call it the replacement rate has to be at 2.1 to be able to sustain population for the long term . We are below that now . It was nearly four births per woman in the 1960s .
Yeah well people then would have kids to help with all the load of work , because most people were on farms it is , but this is why it's scary .
We're below the 2.1 rate for the first time since 1970 , which just was a one-year thing , and then it climbed right back up .
This is something that's been continuing to trend over the last decade or so , so well , with abortions being millions per year , and that's part of why this rate has gone down so much , because now this idea of abortion is used as a firm of birth , birth control right , but now that's been reversed yes and it's not supposed to be a thing unless it's like a
medical emergency situation , correct .
Some states have completely banned it .
That should increase it should because people can't not have sex with each other that is true , but here's the scary part of it is one yes , people are still going to have sex with each other . That seems to be dwindling in research that some people aren't having sex . Not as much as they used to . Why ?
Because we're so stuck on our phones and our entertainment and our TVs and our computers and this social life where we're not actually seeking real physical , intimate .
No , because everybody's watching too much porn .
Well , yes , that is absolutely part of it because that's gonna get you where you need to be and this idea of artificial intelligence , where artificial intelligence , these ai humans , so to speak , are replacing real physical relationships with people .
It's like I robots I'm done all over , I'm done , I know .
I know you're just , you're finished , you're done . So I say all this to say this I the view , I have such a hard time and I struggle to believe that they all truly believe that men are purely useless . I know this was more of a hey , how can we get some , some attention ?
How can we get some ratings ? Let's say something stupid , so people will watch .
Exactly how can we get some attention our way , good or bad , people will watch . Exactly how can we get some attention our way , good or bad but you know how can we be controversial to drive eyeballs to our tv and get more clicks and more people to look at this ?
I have to believe that's , that's the intent of it , but I do believe there's this underlying tone where people believe yeah , you know , we really don't need men anymore well , joy bayharsal , blah , blah , blah , blah , it too . Yeah , I think that's a scary thing . And again , this whole idea of the timeline and the people and extinction .
We're nowhere near that , but if we really got rid of man completely , that's something that we could possibly see .
I'm not sure if they're believers .
I don't know .
I mean everybody wants to say they believe in God .
That's true .
But what God do they believe in ?
That's true .
What God do they pray to ? And if they do believe that men are useless , do they believe God's a woman ?
I have seen where there are people who , yes , they believe God .
That one show we watched , where she thought she was mother God .
Yes , well , there are people who believe one God's a woman . There's also some who believe God is a . They them and that whole thing , which is that's something I don't even want to think about today .
Yeah , so the last point that I want to bring up and it's something that you brought up too where , towards the end of the conversation on the View was having to initiate the conversation and all men can talk about , are sports and cars , and I have a reason to believe why that might be the case .
Maybe that's just the men that they know .
One . Maybe it's the men that they know .
How old are these people ?
They're probably in their 40s to 50s , maybe I really don't know . But I believe that the reason that I've got to look it up now , go ahead . That's the only thing that they will say no , and the only things I have conversations about is one because men have been told well , you're not allowed to have feelings , you can't be vulnerable .
You know the cultural norm is , as Ben , you know , it's just suck it up . You know , just get over it , just suck it up . That's , that's just going to be the way that .
It is the reason I think more people have these conversations that with with men or with their husbands or whoever that can't seem like they can get in any depth with , I think is mostly because there was a point in time where that man whether it was with you or with someone else did truly let the guard down and they did truly open up and they were truly
vulnerable and they were shouted down with it . They were told I'll suck it up , you shouldn't feel that way . They let the guard down and they let someone in on something they're going through that is deep and serious and they really want to be able to get it out .
And then somehow that was turned around and it was used against them in some way , and I think that's one of the reasons men don't want to have these in-depth conversations .
I think that's why , whenever you have a conversation with a guy sometimes and you really try to , you know , hey , what's going on , how you doing , you'll just get the fine women do the same thing they do . But I think men by and large are just like now everything's fine , it's good .
It's good because there was that one time where they said something a little bit more in depth and it was somehow taken out of context , it was somehow twisted or used against them in a future argument or something , and when that happens the man is going to say never again you want me to tell you the ages of these people ? How old ?
as of august 2023 . One , the joy behar I may even say her name right is 80 , she's 80 she looks great for 80 I don't know what she looks like . Then there's one that's 45 , 51 , 54 , and 34 . How many ?
There's five of them .
One , two , three , four , five . Yeah , so there's one millennial 34 . Her name Alyssa Griffin . I don't know , I don't know .
Doesn't matter either way .
No , I'm looking at it , I'm saying it but one is 45 , so she's closer to our age and the other about 10 years older than us yep I feel like we are more , we relate more to the generation above us . I could see that , yeah , 34 year old . I don't know if that's the case .
I feel like I would be happy to be a millennial than these old , pissed off women who are mad because their husbands are useless . No wonder , 80 years old , her husband's still alive .
Well , I don't even necessarily think that . I think their minds have been twisted , that they don't need a man . Um , like I said before , we need each other , you know . That's the reason God created Eve was . We're meant for relationship , we're not meant to do it alone . We can think that we're all big and bad and independent .
We don't need anybody , we don't need to lean on anybody ever , but that's just not the case . We need other people . Whether we like it or not , we need a partner in all this .
Whether we like it or not , we need a partner in all this , whether we like it or not , men need women and women need men , because all of the stuff that I talked about , about the you know labor about the labor shortages and all of that . If we were to flip the script and we were to eliminate women , the exact same thing would happen .
Yeah , these , these other fields that we need so badly , yeah , they would be filled by men , but all the ones that the women are so much better at than men , those would go away completely too . We would see the exact same thing on both sides .
And my point is we just we need each other , and wherever you may be in your relationship maybe it's great , maybe it's struggling , maybe you're seeking it Don't necessarily believe what the world is telling you , because we badly need each other . We need the relationships . We need people to be able to lean on at some point in time .
So I just I saw this when I was eating lunch this week . When I was just checking the news . I was like this is one of the dumbest , most idiotic statements I think I've ever heard that men are useless , men and women are both not useless and we need each other badly . Any final thoughts before we go , cause we got to go . Joy's on her second husband .
Okay , no wonder she mad . She don't like men . You didn't like , didn't do it right the first time , why'd ?
you get another one , I mean , hey , there's always opportunity for , for a second chance . I think again , this is mostly for clicks and for entertainment purposes and she's 81 but there are a lot of people who will truly believe this and , uh , that's disheartening , to say the least .
I mean , I guess you know , respect your elders .
I don't know .
Final thoughts baby she , whoever her plastic surgeon is , does a great job .
Oh , she looks amazing for 80 something years old 81 .
All right Well that's all I got for you .
I never knew what she looked like we got to go Good for you , Joy . Listen , men and women you are not
¶ Relationships and Respect for Elders
useless . We badly need each other . God , we love you . We are so thankful for what you do .
We are thankful that you created relationship , because we so badly need them , and our prayer is for anyone who ever hears this to seek one the most important relationship with you , because you are the one who we need to be focused on , lay our foundation for everything we do on and God just be able to bring the relationships that we need in our lives , that
are going to make us better , and point ourselves towards you to be able to find the fulfillment and the joy that we need in our lives , that are going to make us better and point ourselves towards you to be able to find the fulfillment and the joy that we need in our lives . We love you and we thank you in Jesus name , amen .
Amen Play ball . I like to talk sports , joy .
Bam .