This isn't BSing them, okay? It's not saying, I swear it's important, and then not really meaning it. You genuinely do mean it because you know everybody in your team is there for a reason. Everyone's skills and perspectives are needed and you value them and people aren't going to think it's bs. If you show up authentically,
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Motivation's a little bit wavering and. You don't really know what to do about it. And no matter how many times you talk about the profitability and the direction of the company and all the things you see, like people kind of nod along, but you just know there's something missing. And this kind of thing as business owners can make us really worried because this is our livelihood and we are relying on our team members to show up and, and actually care about this thing.
If we're managers in the corporate world or in larger companies, We know that it's costly to be looking for new employees, and maybe we don't have the ability to hire backfills right now, so if we lose people, so this is a big issue when we see that people aren't really on board, and this can cause those Sunday scaries on that Thursday, Friday night ruining the whole weekend.
But I think something proactive we can do to address the situation is sit down with folks and connect the dots between what that vision is for our team or company and where they fit into it, where their role really matters. I've seen time and again when we show someone you matter because. Your role is important because without you, we wouldn't be able to do this.
When we show our team members, they're gonna see themselves in it. They're gonna feel more like an owner, and they're gonna care more. And when they care more, they do better at work and everybody wins. So how does this conversation go? We address this by painting the vision for how we see that person's role breathing some energy and enthusiasm in into what they're doing so that they can start to picture it too.
Because if someone's not feeling it then, then it's likely that they don't really see the picture. Let's say a team member comes to you and says, uh, my work feels really tactical. I wanna be doing more, but I, I just don't see this as a career. Maybe I'm a project manager or an office manager or an administrative assistant, and I feel like I'm always just putting out fires.
I'm not seen as a strategic partner. I'm just running from one thing to the next. I can never finish anything. These kinds of things can be demoralizing. And I mean, think about it. If that was how you felt about your job, yeah, you wouldn't be very excited about it. You may not see a future there, and in this situation, by sitting down with that employee and saying, I totally hear you, I hear that, that'd be frustrating.
I'd feel frustrated too if I was in that situation. But I wanna share how I see the work when you are running in to proactively solve problems. I see you as that glue between all the things that have to happen in this company when you're up there answering phone to the desk, when you're, when you're handling customer inquiries and making sure people feel supported, you know, you're the, you're the first touchpoint that anybody has with our business.
And that's so critically important because that sets the tone for everything else that happens. And there's so much value there, and we need you there. And you're creating this experience that makes people wanna work with us for months to come. And when you feel like, you know, the, the scheduling meetings and follow ups and notes is, is really tactical.
Well, I see that as bringing clarity across what we're talking about, how we make decisions, how we make sure that folks are informed and feel like, wow, I, I, I have the information I need to do my job effectively. When you start to paint the picture of elevating it from something, someone has gotten stuck in this loop of thinking, nobody values the work, nobody cares about it, and you show them all the ways that they could value this, you're able to reframe this stuck feeling into showing someone why it matters.
And this isn't BSing them, okay? It's not saying, I swear it's important, and then not really meaning it. You genuinely do mean it because you know everybody in your team is there for a reason. Everyone's skills and perspectives are needed and you value them, and people aren't going to think it's BS if you show up authentically.
If you say, this thing is so important, I value it so much, but then don't recognize it again, don't compensate it fairly. That's where we feel like it's bs, but we don't feel like that if you put your literal money where your mouth is and you actually value this kind of work, and how we translate this for our team members is what I often call the shift from the what.
To the so what? And it's an incredibly powerful tool that we can use with our team members so that they see the full potential of their work. And I've seen it time and again, I used to manage program managers who often felt their work was behind the scenes too, tactical, all the things that I'm talking about.
And when I would share this framing with them that I don't see it as, Project babysitter or whatever, or like task tracker or note taker. No, I see this dot connector. Bringing clarity to how work gets done, making sure that all the stakeholders are aligned and we take this big, messy vision and make sure we understand exactly what to do by when.
That's literally the most important person on the team to make sure that we can bring that kind of clarity in. That's how I see it. And when I'd frame it like this, I would see people light up. They thought about their whole purpose in this company different, and it's actually really inspiring as a manager when the situation comes up because we have the power in the opportunity to reframe this whole perception completely.
Instead of getting caught up in, uh, team's, morale is low and engagement down and, and getting frustrated and feeling great. I have like one more thing to deal with as a manager. I encourage you to reframe that and think, Ooh, this is an awesome opportunity that I can breathe more excitement and sense of purpose into my team members.
And that happens all from this exercise of dot connecting. I encourage you to give that a try and not only wait till someone comes to you, I think this is something that you can do continually in either career conversations or one-on-ones saying something like, Hey, I was thinking about your role today and how awesome it is that you have this impact on the company.
Have you thought about that way and proactively ward this off? Because, hate to say it, if someone comes to you saying they're pretty frustrated, they're probably already looking for another job. I mean, that's usually the case. And they're feeling you out a little bit to see if you'll offer 'em something better, but they're already like deep into the LinkedIn search.
This is the strategy today. Connect those dots, and I really think you can reframe this Sunday scaries into something that's really empowering both for you and for your teams. And if you have questions around how to really bring this to life, send me the text manager to 4 15 2 3 4 5 716. If you got questions about this or anything else related to managing teams, I can add your question to an upcoming ama.
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033: Sunday Scaries - What to do when motivation is low on your team
Episode description
When motivation is low and it feels like our team members aren't bought in, it can make us dread managing because we worry that this lack of motivation is going to slow things down or potentially result in losing team members. The good news is, this can be a moment to reignite a sense of purpose in your team members, which can shift people's mindset from disengaged and job searching to being so freakin excited about working on your team or in your company.
In today's Sunday Scaries episode, I talk about how to make this shift.
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