[SPEAKER_01]: Ladies and gentlemen, you'll recall a few weeks ago, we spoke with the President of the NEA Becky Pringle, and we always do well when we also hear from our sister organization. [SPEAKER_01]: What their sister organization when it comes to teachers, we got the NEA, we got the AFT, all during great work as I've always liked. [SPEAKER_01]: I'm very proud to say, my family's history. [SPEAKER_01]: with the teacher's union goes back eighty years.
[SPEAKER_01]: And having been a member of myself, having been a teacher, having been a building rep. [SPEAKER_01]: This is very important. [SPEAKER_01]: And this is, as we always said, really the foundation of democracy in this country. [SPEAKER_01]: And we don't get to get a little bit into that with our very special guests as we talk with AFT, the American Federation of Teachers. [SPEAKER_01]: have with us our dear brother who is the secretary treasurer of AFT himself.
[SPEAKER_01]: Our brother fed in room joining us from Florida. [SPEAKER_01]: Hey brother good to see you've been too long man. [SPEAKER_01]: How are you? [SPEAKER_01]: Absolutely. [SPEAKER_01]: How are you doing, Reverend? [SPEAKER_01]: I'm doing fantastic. [SPEAKER_01]: Good. [SPEAKER_01]: I'm glad you could you could join us today, man. [SPEAKER_01]: I want to kind of start with what I said for us.
[SPEAKER_01]: Education really is the foundation of democracy because it was an education movement that began the civil rights movement that desegregated America. [SPEAKER_01]: So if that wasn't us, we had not done that. [SPEAKER_01]: And those unions back then were segregated unions, unfortunately. [SPEAKER_01]: And if folks had gotten away they had, we wouldn't have [SPEAKER_01]: the very democracy that, oh boy, we now know what's trying to dismantle. [SPEAKER_01]: Right. [SPEAKER_00]: Right.
[SPEAKER_00]: Right. [SPEAKER_00]: You're absolutely right. [SPEAKER_00]: Listen, education in the black community goes back and far back is before, you know, we came to this country. [SPEAKER_00]: But when we came to this country, I want people to remember that it was illegal to teach people like you and me. [SPEAKER_00]: It was illegal for us to go to school and read a book and understand the very Bible that we espoused to.
[SPEAKER_00]: Those kinds of things were kept away from us for a reason because people wanted to press down on the marginalized and on the challenge folks in society. [SPEAKER_00]: And they wanted to keep a particular amount of power. [SPEAKER_00]: So transfer that over to the civil rights movement, transfer that into twenty twenty five. [SPEAKER_00]: Why are they attacking K- twelve education? [SPEAKER_00]: Why are they attacking colleges and universities? [SPEAKER_00]: It's the same playbook.
[SPEAKER_00]: If you can keep and condemn a folk from learning about their history, understanding the true scope and breadth of education, then you can keep a particular type of power in your society, where you have the halves and the halves not. [SPEAKER_00]: And so we want to be, you know, have an equitable society. [SPEAKER_00]: And that's why Black folks have always believed in the power of education, the power of reading, power of understanding.
[SPEAKER_00]: You know, I could go into detail with our HPCUs and all that, but I'm hoping we get into some more that. [SPEAKER_00]: When no, let's do that. [SPEAKER_01]: Let's go now because part of what he's doing is chaos is shock is overwhelming. [SPEAKER_01]: Right. [SPEAKER_01]: But talk to us about what you all look at AFT in terms of what Trump is targeting when it comes to education. [SPEAKER_00]: Right.
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, and his central playbook for the last hundred days has been to dismantle [SPEAKER_00]: the Department of Education. [SPEAKER_00]: And by dismantling the Department of Education, you do three things. [SPEAKER_00]: One, you attack students with disabilities. [SPEAKER_00]: Seven point five million students across this country rely on monies that come from [SPEAKER_00]: the Department of Education.
[SPEAKER_00]: There are ten million students from working class families who would lose pilgrims and subsidized loans, eighty-five percent of the students that are black in this country depend on those pilgrims. [SPEAKER_00]: We don't know what the ball is going to look like next year with this whole dismantling of [SPEAKER_00]: the Department of Education. [SPEAKER_00]: It's a big question mark because this is the first time in fifty years that we've ever had to deal with this.
[SPEAKER_00]: And then lastly, twelve million students across fifty states will lose access to career and technical education programs designed to help them master skills and knowledge required for employment. [SPEAKER_00]: So those are the things that we're [SPEAKER_00]: really alerting the public that are critical in need, especially towards the black community.
[SPEAKER_00]: Listen, the Department of Education was set up so that it can deal with the marginalized, deal with the challenge students, deal with our students who have these superpowers we call handicaps. [SPEAKER_00]: And so we can understand how to educate them. [SPEAKER_00]: And that is truly what makes our democracy different. [SPEAKER_00]: in our public schools different.
[SPEAKER_00]: We take anybody, we take everybody because we believe that everybody's got a shop and a whole and it should have an opportunity for public education. [SPEAKER_00]: But when you start to do this, you start to roll back where we were pre-uniting fifty-four. [SPEAKER_00]: Right? [SPEAKER_01]: So, this is Brigadier down a bit. [SPEAKER_01]: Some of the things you mentioned affect those law and the college, but further things you mentioned, and let me start here.
[SPEAKER_01]: You mentioned those with disabilities. [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_01]: What the civil rights movement did was secure civil rights, not only for African Americans, but for those it paved the way for the Americans with disabilities. [SPEAKER_01]: Absolutely. [SPEAKER_01]: So people need none to stand. [SPEAKER_01]: Even some of y'all who voted for the man right there, they need none to stand.
[SPEAKER_01]: Then when you when you to attack civil rights, [SPEAKER_01]: for an education at the elementary secondary level. [SPEAKER_01]: And you don't have a Department of Education to enforce that. [SPEAKER_01]: We talk about some of y'all's kids. [SPEAKER_01]: We talk about some of his voters' kids who have disabilities. [SPEAKER_00]: Am I right? [SPEAKER_00]: Absolutely. [SPEAKER_00]: Absolutely.
[SPEAKER_00]: Listen, and we're not talking about students that have critical care disabilities. [SPEAKER_00]: We're talking about students that may have a speech impediment. [SPEAKER_00]: They need a speech language pathologist. [SPEAKER_00]: We're talking about ASD, autistic spectrum disorder, where you may have somebody who just needs a counselor who just needs some extra supports in the school.
[SPEAKER_00]: We're talking about students that you know, I'm talking about students across the street who live from you, you know, your grandkids, your nieces, your nephews, in some way, shape a horn. [SPEAKER_00]: There are about six and ten students that need some form of assistance in public schools [SPEAKER_00]: that will be served by the Department of Education in one way or another. [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, that's very, very important folks to understand that.
[SPEAKER_01]: Now, when we talk about some of the other areas you mentioned and in training at the elementary secondary level, we know that that's locally administered. [SPEAKER_01]: The problem of education is therefore enforcement and support and whatnot. [SPEAKER_01]: What says do you have fed at the local level that these local school boards local school administrations are going to resist? [SPEAKER_01]: the negative outcomes from whatever the Department of Education is going to do.
[SPEAKER_01]: And are you all working? [SPEAKER_01]: Is the union working with local administrations to try to mitigate some of these matters? [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_00]: Well, we are through our local affiliates and through our state affiliates, we're absolutely. [SPEAKER_00]: But education right now is going to depend on where you live. [SPEAKER_00]: Your demographics is going to depend on how much money you have in your state. [SPEAKER_00]: The politics of the governor of your state.
[SPEAKER_00]: The politics of your superintendent, the politics of your mayor, just depends on what your political structure is. [SPEAKER_00]: They are completely politicizing our classroom because they are decentralizing and debocusing the federal government.
[SPEAKER_00]: And that is where the Department of Education served as a hub for civil rights, served as a hub to say, hey, you, Florida or Texas or Arkansas or Nevada, wherever you are, [SPEAKER_00]: We will release guidance and give you some understanding about what you should be doing. [SPEAKER_00]: Whether you do it or not, is a state issue. [SPEAKER_00]: But now there is no North Star. [SPEAKER_00]: There is nothing to say, you know, these are, this is going to be governors unleashed.
[SPEAKER_00]: This is going to be superintendent unleashed because you can actually make your own decisions. [SPEAKER_00]: which is not a bad thing depending on where you live, depending on what your ideology is. [SPEAKER_00]: If you a poor person, if you're struggling, if you just lost your job and you're living in a challenge neighborhood, listen, we all know what happens to those schools. [SPEAKER_00]: that there's money that is targeted towards other places.
[SPEAKER_00]: What we used to say is across the railroad track. [SPEAKER_00]: We need the money to go to all communities and that's where the Department of Education helped us to do that. [SPEAKER_00]: But let me clear one point. [SPEAKER_00]: This whole career technical education is going to impact us in a way that we have not seen. [SPEAKER_00]: What is career technical education? [SPEAKER_00]: This is auto body in school.
[SPEAKER_00]: This is where our young people, most of our young people mark are still not going to college. [SPEAKER_00]: But that doesn't mean that they don't have a shot at the American dream and they can get certified. [SPEAKER_00]: If we can teach them a skill in school, some of our young people still like to do hair. [SPEAKER_00]: That is a very good job if you can get it, right?
[SPEAKER_00]: We're talking about some of these folks who will be in school, getting this training, coming out as a certified hairdresser, coming out as a certified shell. [SPEAKER_00]: Coming out is a certified automobile expert. [SPEAKER_00]: These are jobs that they're going to be restrictive from with career and technical education dollars not being funded in our public schools. [SPEAKER_00]: Arts classes, these are the local musicians that are Baptist churches.
[SPEAKER_00]: These are young people who will be in the marching band and then go out and get a job in playing in a restaurant. [SPEAKER_00]: or going to, you know, do whatever we need them to do in our society. [SPEAKER_00]: All of these things will be cut because career and technical education, twelve million students across fifty states will be impacted by this directly. [SPEAKER_01]: I'd be remiss since you brought up hair.
[SPEAKER_01]: I recently deceased on Helen Thompson taught [SPEAKER_01]: cosmatology in the public school system for thirty five years. [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_01]: And many of the people today who were practicing in that field now got their knowledge from her and as real. [SPEAKER_01]: That's right. [SPEAKER_01]: But since you also mentioned many not going to college, I think we have to acknowledge something fed and that is this.
[SPEAKER_01]: There's this, you know, the musk and Zuckerberg, the people who social engineers through social media are pushing this narrative. [SPEAKER_01]: You don't need to go to college no more. [SPEAKER_01]: You don't need college. [SPEAKER_01]: And it's even, you have some who are pushing that, especially amongst the black male community. [SPEAKER_01]: Now, we're not knocking about it, doesn't go to college, right?
[SPEAKER_01]: But y'all got to understand the same allies who support Trump, [SPEAKER_01]: So he can do this. [SPEAKER_01]: To minimize college opportunity. [SPEAKER_01]: And then it's fair to say and take away the alternative career path to college. [SPEAKER_01]: Don't be fooled everybody. [SPEAKER_01]: So you can't be accountable ways. [SPEAKER_01]: Well, we don't want nobody to go to college, but we also don't want you to get these career technical opportunities either.
[SPEAKER_01]: So folks, when you see these conversations and I'm a right thing, when you see these conversations be very careful, don't let nobody on social media determine your path or your future. [SPEAKER_01]: That's right. [SPEAKER_01]: Right. [SPEAKER_01]: And again, they're specifically targeting more and more black men.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_01]: And black men need to understand that, you know, you can't have somebody to say, we don't go to college and then they're supporting somebody else to say, and you can't have a career, a technical career either. [SPEAKER_01]: Right. [SPEAKER_00]: Right. [SPEAKER_00]: Right. [SPEAKER_00]: Right. [SPEAKER_00]: Right. [SPEAKER_00]: Right. [SPEAKER_00]: Right. [SPEAKER_00]: They're taking it away on both sides. [SPEAKER_00]: Right.
[SPEAKER_00]: And so we've got to be very careful with the black community to understand and ensure the value system and listen, parents have to know their children. [SPEAKER_00]: Right. [SPEAKER_00]: That is still an individual choice, whether you go to college or not. [SPEAKER_00]: It's an individual choice, but we need parents there every step of the way saying, hey, listen, my, my kid has this aspiration to be in college and university.
[SPEAKER_00]: I personally push, you know, college and university, even if nothing but for the experience. [SPEAKER_00]: You need to open your mind. [SPEAKER_00]: We know what books do to our young people. [SPEAKER_00]: We know what events classes do for our young people. [SPEAKER_00]: It opens up the world to you, the more you have a broader education.
[SPEAKER_00]: What history has proven us and all the research tells us that a college-educated person has a leg up in terms of the workforce in terms of how much you will actually make, in terms of your network over your lifetime. [SPEAKER_00]: And so those things we still have to continue to push. [SPEAKER_00]: We can't listen to this narrative about you don't need this and you don't need that because these people aren't talking about anything. [SPEAKER_00]: They don't want you to do anything.
[SPEAKER_00]: They don't want you to have anything. [SPEAKER_00]: And so, yes, they will tell you, don't go to college. [SPEAKER_00]: But then they will take away, as you say, all your opportunities to be a technical expert in something. [SPEAKER_00]: And then they won't even push the mindset that you can be an entrepreneur. [SPEAKER_00]: You can start your own business. [SPEAKER_00]: You can start your own website. [SPEAKER_00]: You can do certain things.
[SPEAKER_00]: Donald Trump does not have an education plan at all. [SPEAKER_00]: It is all subtraction. [SPEAKER_00]: It's a takeaway. [SPEAKER_00]: do the best that you can while you're out there. [SPEAKER_00]: And all while he is giving this money that he's going to take away from Department of Education and these other government entities, he's going to give that money in the tax break to his billionaire buddies. [SPEAKER_00]: That's what's happening.
[SPEAKER_00]: This is the largest, I think, takeaway in modern history that we're going to see in this reconciliation bill when the budget comes out. [SPEAKER_00]: And all of this money is coming directly out of people's pockets. [SPEAKER_01]: So now as far as the Department of Education is concerned, his plan is still to close it, isn't that? [SPEAKER_00]: Absolutely. [SPEAKER_00]: Now, he cannot unilaterally close it, but Reverend Mark, what he's doing is deep funding, right?
[SPEAKER_00]: He fire about fifteen hundred people. [SPEAKER_00]: He is stifling the [SPEAKER_00]: The services and so you can't actually fulfill the duties of the department of education. [SPEAKER_00]: So he technically has not closed it. [SPEAKER_00]: The department of education is still a functional place, but, but it's running on bare bones. [SPEAKER_00]: They're not able to do. [SPEAKER_00]: the work that they were, uh, congressionally put in.
[SPEAKER_00]: So in the, uh, the, uh, the card administration, uh, said we would have a department of education and Congress made that happen. [SPEAKER_00]: Congress put it in place and Congress actually has to take it out. [SPEAKER_00]: Now we don't know what Congress is going to do because they haven't passed anything yet. [SPEAKER_00]: Uh, so yes, he, he is trying to close it, but close it by defunding it.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_01]: So what we haven't touched on though yet fair, and you alluded to it, how the classroom is being politicized. [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_01]: They also want to affect [SPEAKER_01]: the content of education and take away true and real history, don't they? [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_00]: Well, listen, I'm from Florida. [SPEAKER_00]: You know, we have a governor who said the slavery might have been good for black folks.
[SPEAKER_00]: He literally said that, right? [SPEAKER_00]: He said that there may have been some kind of [SPEAKER_00]: internship program or or or some kind of skill that we took away that that other folks gave us so that we can be better citizens in society. [SPEAKER_00]: This is what the governor of Florida said. [SPEAKER_00]: And so it is an outside playbook.
[SPEAKER_00]: These people are pushing this thing on a megaphone about white washing history, writing history, revisionist history, whatever you want to call it. [SPEAKER_00]: They don't want us to learn about the rich. [SPEAKER_00]: history where we come from, who we are, our perseverance, and what we can do. [SPEAKER_00]: And so our young people are having a hard time in school because they're closing libraries. [SPEAKER_00]: They're banning books.
[SPEAKER_00]: We don't have as many librarians as we used to have. [SPEAKER_00]: We don't have as many counselors and we don't have the time to teach that because we're still teaching to a test every day. [SPEAKER_00]: People forget about that in school, but that's one of the other status quo Republican kind of marching orders that we have in our public schools. [SPEAKER_00]: We need the time on task to actually teach the true of to our students and we still don't have that.
[SPEAKER_01]: Fair, what do we do? [SPEAKER_01]: How would you, what instructions would you give to those listening and watching about how to mobilize? [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, so there's still a fight out there. [SPEAKER_00]: Listen, this is not a defeatist conversation. [SPEAKER_00]: This is a conversation to ignite a spark in both. [SPEAKER_00]: Don't let these both use our children as collateral damage in their fight to get more power. [SPEAKER_00]: We are fighting in the courts.
[SPEAKER_00]: As you can see, the courts are still holding [SPEAKER_00]: In a sense where we have multiple lawsuits against the administration. [SPEAKER_00]: Right now we're getting in junctive orders. [SPEAKER_00]: We're pursuing legal matters that way. [SPEAKER_00]: We are also fighting in commerce now. [SPEAKER_00]: So what does that mean? [SPEAKER_00]: That means that you see people protesting Tesla.
[SPEAKER_00]: You see people out on the streets trying to make sure that they speak truth to power. [SPEAKER_00]: You see people get town hall meetings, go to those meetings, make sure that you are part of something that really says the value system of black folks and our black children are going to be put in center. [SPEAKER_00]: And then lastly, it's the quarter public opinion, right? [SPEAKER_00]: We have to change the narrative. [SPEAKER_00]: Our public schools are still valuable.
[SPEAKER_00]: Our public schools are still necessary. [SPEAKER_00]: And that quarter public opinion means that we have to not drink the water from, you know, this administration. [SPEAKER_00]: This administration will tell you that there's some negative things about our public schools.
[SPEAKER_00]: This administration will tell you that we've got to push our students to private schools, or charter schools, or pro-Q schools, and listen, nothing against charter schools, nothing against pro-Q schools, nothing against private schools, but the scale up [SPEAKER_00]: ninety percent of the children in America including ninety five percent of black children still attend our public schools. [SPEAKER_00]: And so that is the system that we have.
[SPEAKER_00]: That's the system that we have to fix. [SPEAKER_00]: That's the system that we have to fund. [SPEAKER_00]: And we can't do it by going in reverse with our current administration. [SPEAKER_00]: So we have to really get out there and fight on the streets. [SPEAKER_00]: We have to hold true to the court system. [SPEAKER_00]: You've got to get off and speak to your school board.
[SPEAKER_00]: and speak to your principles and speak to your superintendents and then grab a teacher one of these days and say, can I do something for you? [SPEAKER_00]: Can I do something for your classroom? [SPEAKER_00]: Can I adopt the school, adopt the class? [SPEAKER_00]: Those are the kinds of things that will help us in a small way moving forward, but everything is going to happen. [SPEAKER_00]: Everything is going to help.
[SPEAKER_01]: And we've done that before, because a couple of years ago, four years ago, we saw moms for liberty was doing and then people mobilized and push moms for liberty, you know, here by them anymore. [SPEAKER_01]: So we're done, yes. [SPEAKER_00]: Right. [SPEAKER_00]: Absolutely. [SPEAKER_00]: Absolutely. [SPEAKER_00]: Listen, we can win this. [SPEAKER_00]: In fact, we have to win this.
[SPEAKER_00]: We have to win this because we have to leave a better space for our children than it was for us. [SPEAKER_00]: That is our goal, that's our duty, and that's our responsibility as citizens. [SPEAKER_00]: And we have always had that, you know, my parents sacrificed so that I could be a college. [SPEAKER_00]: My parents, I'm a first generation college student.
[SPEAKER_00]: And so I have sacrificed so that my young people are now second generation college students, but we still have a long ways to go. [SPEAKER_00]: And as a people, we have come a long way, but there are still mountains to climb. [SPEAKER_00]: And so this is our time in the race, Mark. [SPEAKER_00]: This is our time with the baton to say, what are we going to do? [SPEAKER_00]: And I end with this.
[SPEAKER_00]: People always say, you think back to the civil rights movement and people say, what would I have done? [SPEAKER_00]: with batons and water hoses and dogs being snapped at me. [SPEAKER_00]: You know, people say, I wouldn't take that. [SPEAKER_00]: I wouldn't do that. [SPEAKER_00]: What is your time right now? [SPEAKER_00]: Because this is the civil rights movement of the modern era. [SPEAKER_00]: This is our bold corner time right now. [SPEAKER_00]: What are you going to do?
[SPEAKER_00]: How are you going to face this? [SPEAKER_00]: Because you don't have to wonder anymore what you would do in civil rights movement because we've got it right here. [SPEAKER_01]: That's right. [SPEAKER_01]: You absolutely right. [SPEAKER_01]: Fed, Ingram, folks, I'd be a friend. [SPEAKER_01]: He is the Secretary of the American Federation of Teachers doing great work. [SPEAKER_01]: Go to aft.org to find out more and parents stand with these teachers.
[SPEAKER_01]: Those are the best friends you can have. [SPEAKER_01]: Those are the people. [SPEAKER_01]: who when there's no budget and no money for supplies, they go and get it out of their pocket. [SPEAKER_01]: That's what teachers do. [SPEAKER_01]: And teachers don't, I'm not, that's not something they go to school to learn how to do. [SPEAKER_01]: That's the nature of teaching. [SPEAKER_01]: We leave our young people with our teachers for all day long while we're at work.
[SPEAKER_01]: and that's very important. [SPEAKER_01]: So let's stand with them. [SPEAKER_01]: They are the first line. [SPEAKER_01]: They know what's going on in the classroom. [SPEAKER_01]: They know what's going on in the schools. [SPEAKER_01]: They know what's going on in the school systems. [SPEAKER_01]: So if you want to know what's going on at your child's school and the school system, talk to those teachers. [SPEAKER_01]: And let's stand for HBCs. [SPEAKER_01]: I almost forgot.
[SPEAKER_01]: So he releases his executive order, HBCUs, money money money money. [SPEAKER_01]: And when you look at it, it's a drop in the ocean. [SPEAKER_01]: compared to what we got in the bad administration. [SPEAKER_01]: It's a Trojan horse, and it's not really real, especially what you're saying that you can't say what we're going to do some base BCU's, and then we're going to do a way with paleograms and other things, right? [SPEAKER_00]: Absolutely.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's smoking mirrors, right? [SPEAKER_00]: He wanted to do something politically to say he was doing something for our HBCUs, the Biden administration gave the wreck funding, seventeen billion dollars, one of the biggest infusions of our, our, our, our HBCUs that we've seen in history. [SPEAKER_00]: and the Trump administration, no new commitment to funding this executive order, zero dollars in the executive order.
[SPEAKER_00]: It revokes the equity-centered goals that we had in the Biden administration. [SPEAKER_00]: And so it tries to replace it with innovation and competitiveness. [SPEAKER_00]: And so they don't want anything that's referencing [SPEAKER_00]: the diversity equity and inclusion, so they took that out and then they put in innovation and competitiveness. [SPEAKER_00]: And then what this does is seek to expand the public private partnerships, which we're all poor.
[SPEAKER_00]: But there's the thin line between what HBCUs have to do to get these public private partnerships. [SPEAKER_00]: We don't want our schools selling their souls to some companies, some philanthropists, some person that's going to give [SPEAKER_00]: you know millions of dollars and say now you have to do this or now you have to do that.
[SPEAKER_00]: And so if our HBCUs are so reliant on those private partnerships, then we could potentially compromise who we are as HBCU graduates as HBCU supporters. [SPEAKER_00]: And so we don't want to do that. [SPEAKER_00]: We have to watch that online and protect our presidents of those universities as well as protect our our students and our professors who work at those universities. [SPEAKER_00]: Absolutely. [SPEAKER_01]: Absolutely. [SPEAKER_01]: All of this is is very, very important.
[SPEAKER_01]: Again, folks, we invite you to go to aft.org to find out more and we appreciate our brother as well. [SPEAKER_01]: And this is an HBCU grad himself. [SPEAKER_01]: But film cookman. [SPEAKER_01]: Amen. [SPEAKER_00]: Amen. [SPEAKER_01]: So we do appreciate our dear brother and all that he does fading, we're folks AFT American Federation of Teachers Secretary Treasurer. [SPEAKER_01]: Fair we got to do this more often, man. [SPEAKER_01]: And let's keep mobilizing people, okay?
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, thank you, sir. [SPEAKER_01]: Peace and pride. [SPEAKER_01]: Your peace and power to you, too, my brother.