Maintenance Phase

Aubrey Gordon & Michael Hobbes•maintenancephase.com

Health & Fitness

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Debunking the junk science behind health fads, wellness scams and nonsensical nutrition advice.

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The Twinkie Defense

The Twinkie Defense has become a shorthand for disingenuous legal defense strategies. But was it disingenuous? (Yes, but not in the way you think!) Thanks to Ashley Smith for editing assistance and Doctor Dreamchip for our lovely theme song! Support us: Subscribe on Patreon Donate on PayPal Get Maintenance Phase shirts, stickers and more Links! Mike's "Victim's Rights" episode on his other show! The Trial of Dan White: The Diminished Capacity ("Twinkie") Defense Harvey Milk: His Lives and Death ...

Nov 17, 2020•49 min

Moon Juice

What's that Gwyneth Paltrow's drinking? It's MOON JUICE! This week, we're talking adaptogens, brain dust, hot sex milk and the wellness company that's taken L.A. by storm. Be sure to take your quinton shots before you listen to this one. Thanks to Ashley Smith for editing assistance and Doctor Dreamchip for our lovely theme song! Support us: Subscribe on Patreon Donate on PayPal Get Maintenance Phase shirts, stickers and more Links!: How Hollywood's Favorite Juice Bar Owner Eats Every Day (Elle)...

Nov 10, 2020•58 min

Snackwell's Cookies

They hit the market in 1992. Three years later, they were the best-selling cookie in America. This week, Mike and Aubrey dive into the low-fat craze of the 1990s and sample the snack that became the symbol of its rise and fall. Support us: Subscribe on Patreon Donate on PayPal Get Maintenance Phase shirts, stickers and more Links! How the Ideology of Low Fat Conquered America “Eat More, They’re Healthy” Anthology of “Cookie Man” ads “What if It’s All Been A Big Fat Lie?” “Ending the War on Fat” ...

Nov 03, 2020•57 min

Fen Phen & Redux

Fen-Phen & Redux were "the next miracle drugs" in the '90s, claiming to help people lose dramatic amounts of weight in just three months. But within a few short years, they'd been pulled from the market. They were just too effective! (Just kidding, they killed some people.) Support us: Subscribe on Patreon Donate on PayPal Get Maintenance Phase shirts, stickers and more Links! Dispensing with the Truth by Alicia Mundy The New Miracle Drug (Time Magazine) How Fen-Phen, A Diet 'Miracle,' Rose ...

Oct 27, 2020•51 min

The President's Physical Fitness Test

The shuttle run! The flexed arm hang! The v-sit reach! These terms are seared into the memories of an entire generation of American schoolchildren. But did the President's Physical Fitness Test actually make us fitter? (Spoiler: lol no) Thanks to Ashley Smith for editing assistance and Doctor Dreamchip for our lovely theme song! Support us: Subscribe on Patreon Donate on PayPal Get Maintenance Phase shirts, stickers and more Links! The Report That Shocked The President JFK’s Sports Illustrated a...

Oct 20, 2020•58 min

What's Our Deal?

Welcome to Maintenance Phase! In our first episode, we tell our origin stories and talk about some of the basic ideas behind the show. Here's where to find us: Aubrey: https://www.yourfatfriend.com/ Mike: https://rottenindenmark.org/ Thanks to Ashley Smith for editing assistance and Doctor Dreamchip for our lovely theme song! Support us: Subscribe on Patreon Donate on PayPal Get Maintenance Phase shirts, stickers and more Support the show...

Oct 11, 2020•57 min

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