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MBW 968: Can't Call It Chocolate - Tariffs, Instagram App, Apple Glass

Apr 16, 20252 hr 17 minEp. 968
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Apple gets a break from the Trump tariffs. What's going on with Apple? France is planning country-wide digital IDs on iPhones. Could Instagram be finally coming to the iPad after 15 years? And could Apple be working on two versions of the next Vision Pro headset?

  • Trump gives Apple a giant break with wide-ranging tariff exemptions.
  • Trump touts how he 'helped' Tim Cook with US tariff pivots.
  • Trump signals semiconductor tariffs are coming 'very soon'.
  • What's wrong with Apple?
  • On-device Apple Intelligence training seems to be based on controversial technology.
  • France plans country-wide digital identity cards on iPhone by the summer.
  • Indonesians can again buy the iPhone 16 as ban is finally lifted.
  • Instagram may finally be coming to iPad after 15 years.
  • Apple Maps on the web leaves beta, now works on mobile devices.
  • Apple rebrands its advertising business as 'Apple Ads'.
  • Apple is reportedly working on two new versions of the Vision Pro.
  • Tim Cook really wants Apple Glass to become a reality.
  • Apple to launch new recycling promo, offering up to $20 discount on AirPods and other accessories.
  • Apple's Beats brand just announced its first-ever USB-C cables.

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Hosts: Leo Laporte, Alex Lindsay, and Andy Ihnatko

Guest: Doc Rock

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Apr 17th 2025 by John Ashley

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In the latest episode of MacBreak Weekly, Leo Laporte, Andy Ihnatko, Alex Lindsay, and guest Doc Rock dove into the chaotic trade policy developments affecting Apple and the broader tech industry.

The tech world has been on a wild ride with tariffs on Chinese imports being implemented, exempted, and threatened again in rapid succession. As Leo Laporte highlighted during the episode, a surprise announcement late Friday exempted smartphones, computers, and chips from the so-called "reciprocal tariffs" with China - seemingly a huge win for Apple, which was facing potential 145% increases in iPhone production costs. However, by Sunday, cabinet members were already walking this back, calling it just a "temporary exemption."

"I'm getting a little fed up with this," remarked Leo, expressing frustration shared by many in the tech industry about these rapid policy shifts. Andy Ihnatko pointed out the bewildering array of tariff classifications, noting that even if smartphones receive exemptions, new tariffs on semiconductors and chips could still severely impact the industry.

The panel discussed Tim Cook's apparent diplomatic efforts, with Trump specifically mentioning conversations with the Apple CEO. Alex Lindsay speculated that Cook likely framed the tariff issues in terms of broader American competitiveness rather than just Apple's interests: "My bet is that Tim has enough EQ to know that he's not talking just about Apple... He probably talked to Trump and talked about all these industries that will be negatively affected and how that actually undermines America's competitiveness."

A significant portion of the discussion centered around the challenges of bringing manufacturing back to the United States - a stated goal behind the tariff policy. Doc Rock highlighted a generational paradox: "When we went to school, the hammer was 'make sure you get real good at your three R's... so you don't end up working in the factory like Pawpaw and Meemaw.' And then we're like 'oh, all the manufacturing has left the United States.'"

The hosts referenced Tim Cook's 2024 comments explaining that Apple's manufacturing presence in China isn't primarily about cheap labor anymore, but rather the established manufacturing infrastructure and education systems that produce skilled workers. Andy Ihnatko emphasized that tariffs alone won't bring manufacturing back without corresponding investments in education and infrastructure to create a skilled workforce.

Meanwhile, Apple has been diversifying its manufacturing base, with production shifts to Vietnam and India. Doc Rock noted that Apple Watch production is primarily in Vietnam now, and the company has been rapidly moving products ahead of potential tariff implementations.

The unpredictability creates challenging conditions for tech companies and consumers alike. As Alex Lindsay observed, "Tariffs can be effective at protecting existing things, but to bring something back from the dead... takes decades." The panel agreed that this uncertainty would likely force companies to accelerate diversification efforts away from China-based manufacturing.

For consumers worried about the prospect of drastically more expensive devices, the hosts discussed various coping strategies, from holding onto devices longer to considering refurbished options, though as Leo pointed out, even last year's models would likely be subject to the same tariffs.

The MacBreak Weekly episode underscores how geopolitical forces are creating unprecedented volatility in the tech industry, potentially ending what Leo described as a "golden age" of relatively affordable consumer electronics enabled by global supply chains and low trade barriers.

As this situation continues to develop, tech enthusiasts and industry watchers would be wise to keep an eye on not just policy announcements, but the manufacturing shifts that may reshape where and how our devices are made in the coming years.

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