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MBW 998: Touching Grass - The iPhone Pocket

Nov 12, 20252 hr 24 minEp. 998
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What is the iPhone Pocket? Apple is nearing a $1 billion a year deal to use Google AI with Siri. Could the OLED MacBook Pro redesign be limited to just the M6 Pro and Max models? And is Apple TV's new show, Pluribus, good? It's good enough to have brought Apple TV down for a period of time during its initial release.

  • Introducing iPhone Pocket: a beautiful way to wear and carry iPhone.
  • Apple nears $1 billion-a year deal to use Google AI for Siri.
  • Report: OLED MacBook Pro redesign may be exclusive to M6 Pro and M6 Max models.
  • The iPad Pro at 10: a decade of unrealized potential.
  • Apple's losing its podcast legacy — why it matters, and how to save it.
  • Forget Liquid Glass, Apple TV's new logo was shot with actual glass.
  • Did Pluribus trigger the AppleTV+ crash?
  • Vince Gilligan wants you to know that Pluribus was 'made by humans'.
  • Apple original films acquires J S Mayank & David Carlyle's manuscript 'Fallen Astronaut'.
  • Future of Apple Fitness+ 'under review'.
  • B&H lists HomePod Mini as discontinued amid refresh rumors.

Picks of the Week

  • Andy's Pick: Club TWiT & Central Heating!
  • Stephen's Pick: Foodnoms App
  • Alex's Pick: The Oh Hellos

Hosts: Leo Laporte, Alex Lindsay, and Andy Ihnatko

Guest: Stephen Robles

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Apple's Rumored Partnership with Google Gemini Primary Navigation Podcasts Club Blog Subscribe Sponsors More… Tech Apple's Rumored Partnership with Google Gemini

Nov 12th 2025

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Apple is reportedly finalizing a $1 billion annual deal to power Siri with Google’s Gemini AI. According to the latest MacBreak Weekly episode, this move signals a big shift in Apple's AI and voice assistant strategy, potentially marking the end of Siri’s long struggle to keep up. Here’s everything users need to know—including what to expect next.

Why Is Apple Using Google Gemini for Siri?

Apple has long lagged behind competitors in making Siri a truly capable voice assistant. The panel explained that, according to Bloomberg, Apple will license Google’s Gemini model and run a customized version on Apple’s own privacy-focused servers. This pivots away from Apple’s “not invented here” philosophy, allowing them to quickly deliver real improvements in Siri without waiting years for their own AI to catch up.

Gemini is Google’s latest large language model (LLM), known for its ability to handle complex tasks, natural conversations, and contextual requests. The rumor suggests that Apple will pay Google approximately $1 billion per year—small change compared to the $20 billion Google spends for being Safari’s default search.

What Will This Mean for Siri’s Capabilities?

On MacBreak Weekly, Alex Lindsay, Stephen Robles, and Andy Ihnatko agreed: most users just want Siri to work. The Gemini integration would allow Siri to perform much more advanced tasks, like pulling information from texts or emails, answering nuanced queries (“When is my mom’s flight landing?”), and potentially understanding context from your apps and personal data (with privacy safeguards).

Stephen Robles noted that Apple’s upcoming “Apple Intelligence” features (expected in iOS 26) will shift more complex processing to the cloud, with privacy protected by Apple’s hardware and infrastructure. Apple is likely to brand Gemini’s powers as part of Apple Intelligence—possibly without ever mentioning Gemini by name to users.

Privacy, Partnerships, and Long-Term Impacts

The panel emphasized that Apple’s strategy is to treat Google as a subcontractor, customizing Gemini to run on Apple’s private servers and meet their strict privacy standards. Apple’s roadmap appears to include using Google for the next year or so, buying time to develop their own advanced models for Siri.

Already, iOS 26 is expected to offer third-party AI integrations—users will eventually see choices like OpenAI and Anthropic, not just Google Gemini.

According to Andy Ihnatko, this partnership boosts Google’s credibility in AI: if Apple trusts Google’s tech enough to build it into Siri, other companies may follow suit.

How Will This Affect Everyday Users?

For most iPhone, iPad, and Mac users, the real story is that Siri should finally become useful for more than just setting timers. Integration with Gemini could dramatically improve natural voice assistance, making Apple devices smarter about your calendar, reminders, and even personal messages.

However, some users who depend on privacy or Apple’s exclusive ecosystem may have concerns about Google’s involvement—even with Apple’s safeguards in place.

Key TakeawaysApple is poised to license Google Gemini for Siri, investing roughly $1 billion per year.Siri’s smart upgrades are expected to arrive by spring 2026 via “Apple Intelligence.”Apple will still prioritize privacy, running Gemini on its own secure cloud.Third-party AI bots (like OpenAI and Anthropic) will be available as options in future Apple OS versions.This partnership improves Siri’s ability to handle context-based queries and personal data tasks, bringing it closer to Google Assistant or ChatGPT levels.Apple’s bet on Google is a temporary solution while its own AI is in development.Apple users should see meaningful improvements in Siri’s reliability and intelligence soon.Google benefits from the deal by boosting its reputation as an enterprise AI provider.The Bottom Line

Apple’s collaboration with Google Gemini marks a pragmatic shift that should finally make Siri smarter and more competitive. While users will benefit from improved voice features, Apple’s focus on privacy remains a core part of the plan. The move reflects a new willingness by Apple to use the best available technology—even if it comes from a rival—while working on its own solutions behind the scenes.

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