It's time for Mac Geek Cabin. I will bring us our quick tip of the week. I recently got a new Subaru Outback and upgraded from one that was a 2018. And in my 2018, when I pushed the volume button in during a car play session, it would pause or resume whatever was playing. It didn't take me long to realize that that button is now a mute button and things keep playing in the background no matter what. So I was losing my place in podcasts and it was driving me a little crazy.
I found that on the steering wheel, if you hold the source button, the one that if you just press it would change between, you know, AM, FM, whatever other options you might have in the car, simply holding that down now acts as a play and pause button. So if you have a Subaru, and I believe that happened in the last three or four years, that's how you do it. And other cars may be the same. So experiment. Don't be afraid to hold a button down a little bit longer and see what happens.
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For now, here in Durham, New Hampshire, I'm Dave Hamilton.
And here in South Dakota, I'm Adam Christensen.
And here also in New Hampshire, it's Pilot Pete. Good day, Americans. And everybody else around the world.
Yes, it's National Dolphin Day. That's, yeah.
Yeah.
I got that. Who knew? And Pete's putting dolphins up on the screen if you're watching the YouTube feed. And if you're not, I don't think you're missing anything. That's right. If you're not, we're sorry that you had to hear us talk about it. Yeah, it was interesting figuring that out with my car.
I'm glad there was an option somewhere. And that was kind of the point of my quick tip was, you know, they often don't take functionality away when they upgrade things like that in cars, but I feel like they move things around a lot, more than we're used to with any of our other tech.
Well, and you could say with that opening quick tip that literally your mileage may vary.
Oh boy. oh boy adam was was that
Not part of rtfm because weren't you weren't you the person who told me that every time you buy a new car you spend the time to read the entire manual end to end.
It's fair i have not done that with this vehicle yet um yeah so yes it's it's been i don't know if you were aware adam but uh i got this car in february i don't know if you remember my travel schedule during q1 of this year uh no no but but unless i wanted to bring that manual with me on the airplane and it really what i should do is load the pdf here's another quick tip right um i i should get the pdf of the manual as opposed to the the you
know the tune that's in the car and then what i want to do is feed that pdf into a custom gpt with all of my manuals for all of my electronics and appliances and other cars. And then I can just query the, that GPT and it, I'm not relying on it to go out on the internet and find whatever it might find. It's like, Nope, use the data I already gave you. So that's, that's what I need to do.
Yeah. Then you could just ask it. Why is this not working?
Right. How do I play and pause? How do I make it work? I'm curious if that's in the manual now that I don't know why I didn't, I don't know why I didn't think of it. Um, but, uh, to, to look it up before the show to see if it's actually in the manual, but I will look up now, not, not right now. Cause we're doing a thing. Right.
Yeah, exactly. Well, you can do it. Well, Adam does a quick tip, but even you're not probably that quick
No probably i mean the car's not that far away but i'm not going to um but i will mark had ironically a um a chat gpt tip he says i find chat gpt very useful to make scripts to run inside of photoshop they can be added to photoshop scripts folder and run via a menu command uh these photoshop scripts have saved me countless hours of work and he's got one that will um process images and change their color types convert them to 8-bit or convert to rgb or actually do all
of that he's got a script that he had chat gpt write for him that converts an image to an adobe rgb 8-bit file and say or image and saves it as a jpeg and uh all that kind of automation stuff you know my now i probably many people are sick of hearing me say it but treating chat gpt like your assistant and giving it data the more you give it the better off the results are if you give it very little and just query it based on its data set there's
too much conflicting data out there on the internet for it to you know be able to be Correct without checking without confirmation and that's why i love having it write scripts because you can you run the script did it turn it into an adobe rgb 8-bit jpeg if the answer is yes great now you know the script works you know if it didn't now you know the script doesn't work Hmm.
Do you think Apple will ever give us our, like our own on device, like on Mac GPT that we can just feed like all of our stuff into? And it just like the stuff that we want, but it never out on the cloud. It just all runs locally. Is there a world where that happens?
I would love – I mean Apple has kind of said that's the world they want to give us. They've implied – I don't want to say that they've said it, but they've implied that. And I think it would be a combination of happening solely on device or happening in Apple's – the private cloud thing. The vault. Yeah, the online bespoke – I can't think of the name of it, but that.
And I would love that. like i like i'm but you know i'm also to the point where i'm half willing to upload my entire email archive to chat gpt so it knows all that about me too and i but i realized like it would be better if i didn't do that you know i'd be probably violating a lot of other people's confidentiality not just my own so i have not done that yet yeah well
We have a we have a big problem i'm not a big problem but like we're getting this mandate at at work now to use We'll see you next time.
Gpt more to use ai engines more and stuff to make our work more efficient but there's a very very clear mandate that you can't put anything sensitive or private or anything about the company so it has to be real generic stuff so like it's being used more i would say in marketing for like marketing research or you know like that sort of stuff um but even there they have to be careful about like not putting numbers in there and blah blah blah so you
know it is a dilemma especially in the corporate world because you know you don't want you know what your corporate secrets going up into chat gpt right like yeah so on the programming side we can there's not a lot we can do with it we can you know generic things that we might need but anything that's client specific or proprietary obviously we can't feed any of that right that's seriously not allowed right very good reasons um but i think so i think that's you had a one that didn't
wasn't in the cloud sorry if they having something that's not in the cloud then you know avoids that problem right.
Yeah and you can like in theory not even in theory in practice you could run your own local gpt for your coding stuff right that that ingested every bit of code that your company has ever developed Right. And now like that, that probably would be a valuable thing for many companies to do. I don't know if you saw it last week, Shopify's CEO, I'm saying that right.
Not Spotify, Shopify. Yeah. Shopify CEO came out and said that using, he called it reactive AI, generative AI, you know, some of these, like one of these things using, you know, these GPTs is now mandatory. You have to have fluency. You have to be using it as part of your job. I mean, it's kind of what I've been saying for a long time. Anybody that, especially small business owners, but even large business owners, if you are not using...
Some chat GPT or, or one of its ilk in your business, you are willingly and hopefully knowingly giving your competition that advantage. Now there might be very good reasons not to, I'm not saying therefore to throw caution to the wind, you know, but, but it should, it should be eyes wide open.
Right. Is, is that, that's kind of the, the intent of that is like, okay, make sure that you're doing this and you understand both the you know the pros and cons of of choosing not to or choosing to use it so i like what your company's doing adam because you're kind of finding the path
Which is good yeah i mean yeah they're working their way into it i'm sure they're going to do i'm sure they will do an in-house probably server or something for the coders at some point you know but i mean that's not it takes some time to build something up like that yeah and i mean they even did announce our last like little corporate conference for our customers they're building a a in-house search thing so that will be private and on our servers for our clients and stuff like that so smart.
Huh. I like that. Yeah. Using it for your customer service is fantastic because if you feed it all your knowledge bases and also like knowledge base articles and also every customer service query interaction that has happened over the last, you know, however long you have in your history, feed that into the GPT. Now it's going to be able to help you generate those answers faster.
They already did that for all of our uh documentation and i think our forums and stuff like that so there's a bot on our site now that you can ask it a bunch of stuff and i even used it the other day for a programmer question somebody asked me like hey can our software do xyz and i'm like i think so but i don't know specifically so i just asked the front end bot on our website and it was like yeah here's the little code snippet you need and
i'm like yep there it is because we have a we have a huge uh it's called our source code kit that we often have to go into and find functions that maybe aren't all publicly documented i mean it's all public stuff that is the stuff that's in that source code because the source code is published, that part of it it's like our template code our front-end language and um but it's massive so like going into the source code to try and find the function that you you
know exists is like can be difficult so that's all in that front end system so for for our developing you know third party developers and stuff like that so just asked it was like oh that worked i.
Have i have an idea adam um that we can workshop right here because we've created you know a little bit of content here with this show over the years slash decades right and
Well davy so you don't need help becoming a content creator, Dave? Yeah, exactly. Asking for a friend.
Yeah, asking for your LinkedIn friends.
Yeah.
But I... So we have all this content, a lot of it, like starting, certainly not half of it, but starting maybe four or five years ago, we started generating transcripts of the audio. But that's relatively trivial to do. It's a little bit time-consuming-ish, but certainly automatable. So we've got transcripts linked in the RSS and in the thing.
Thing they're not published on the site in an in an easy digestible way but your podcast client if you use one that that supports transcripts it will it will pull the ones that we put in there so we've got these transcripts they're linked to time stamps in the show like all that data is there why not could we is there a wordpress plugin for example that could you know ingest this stuff into a custom gpt that we could then put like you say a chatbot or even
just integrating it with search on the site so that when somebody comes and searches for mesh wi-fi or whatever like they could ask a fairly specific question like what have there been episodes where mesh wi-fi with you know wire long long distance wired backhaul have been discussed like that data is there and yeah like like that would make our search on our site like super valuable for everyone yeah
Totally. I'm going to say I just took a stone or a long rabbit hole off of quick tips. So maybe we should jump back to that. Sure.
We have another quick tip about AI while we're here, because Russ had something to add to the conversation. Russ has added to this conversation a few times about perplexity. Russ wrote, he says, perplexity, one of the LLM engines out there, is great as a tutor.
Uh i'll give you one example but i've asked it many questions about italian and gotten really great answers because i'm learning italian russ says my course duolingo has started throwing present perfect tense and imperfect tense both passed at me in questions how can i figure out which to use in any given sentence perplexity pro responded to decide between the present perfect and imperfect tense in italian consider the nature of the action and its connection to
the present and gave a slew of examples and like explanations of why to do it and then also examples in italian with their english translations i'm not going to read through the whole thing but and then it and then it summarized some tips for ask yourself you know here here's your here's how you here's how you do this here's the cheat sheet right you know ask yourself is the action completed and connected to the present if so use present perfect is the action ongoing habitual or descriptive
of a past state if so use imperfect etc etc so yeah it can be um that can be really helpful it's it's fascinating so fun stuff that's where we're at cool that's where we're at yep david
Has a little oh sorry i.
Was just gonna say a quick uh just almost an ad hoc quick tip on that then is it We've been talking about it like everybody knows that we know or they know what we're doing. I don't know how to say that. The point is, rather than just asking questions, you've talked about giving it data. And you can give it all kinds of chat GPT, all kinds of data yourself. You can upload PDFs. You can upload photos.
You can upload all kinds of things. And you just drop it right into the interface, and it uploads it, and it takes it. So if you haven't been doing that, try giving it some data. Like I gave my daughter three different resumes. I said, give me one. Help her put a resume together. And it took all three resumes, didn't repeat anything, and combined it into a beautiful PDF resume. Boom, done.
It's awesome.
Yeah. So give it input. I guess this is the quick tip.
Yeah.
Give it what you want. So sorry. Took us down to the red hole.
David has a little follow-up to some of the backup stuff that we were talking about. Says, love the show each week. I followed Adam over, and even though I miss his show, I'm really enjoying this new team. Well, that's great. And thanks for following. Yeah, yeah. Two weeks ago, you helped motivate me to update my backup strategy. I used to have a great backup strategy, as Adam taught us all, taught all of us.
But then I got a new MacBook M2 Pro, one terabyte and got sloppy i always backed up my family videos grandson soccer and all my family videos backup from backed up from vhs dvd other media onto two ssds four terabyte those are full and needed more space so i have two one terabyte ssds for saving the new soccer games and family videos and then went out and bought two more two terabyte uh hard drives spinning the old spinning ones.
One for Time Machine and one for Carbon Copy Cloner or for CCC Backup. I just bought a new copy. Cool. So I think I'm pretty well set. Thanks for the motivation. Well, David, that sounds like a great upgrade to your backup strategy. So congrats.
Yeah, I agree. For years, listeners have been telling us here that we're expensive people to know because of all the things we recommend but but but like you'd
See how much we cost ourselves
Yeah you're right exactly yeah exactly right but it like these those kinds of purchases i i think are i think that's smart for sure yeah yeah uh
That's the typical upfront investment that's going to be a moderate amount of money to save you lots of money for the alternative is what i always tell people it's You know, $100, two terabyte backup hard drives, a lot cheaper than sending it to the recovery service. Has, you know, a 50 to maybe 70% chance of recovering anything for you. And it's going to cost you thousands of dollars.
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Hey guys hey adam guess what what larry harry has a question for us he says hello oh oh oh wise geeks i'm guessing you've heard this question already but i will ask having fear of what the tariffs might do to apple's prices i'm looking at my 2021 m1 max and considering whether it might be time to upgrade to avoid any price increases. Plus, it still has a $1,200 trade-in credit value with AppleCare till September. So I'm looking at the M4 Pro, and it has 24 gigs of unified memory.
My MacBook Pro has 64 gigabytes. I know that a change in processor could be, with the change in processor, it could be more effective on the M4 Pro, but how much more? I'm looking at activity monitor and about 10 or 11 or 10 or 12 applications are open and they're using 42 gigabytes of memory i closed everything except the finder and it was using up to 24 gigabytes should i just hold on to my computer and wait and see if something dynamic comes out towards the fall and if not just continue.
Buying apple care until this dies so i think the overall question here is do i upgrade and maybe have less memory or do i keep what i have and kind of just keep it going and continue with apple care and see where see where things land or.
Wait for the next best thing right that reminds me of an old uh i think it was gateway computer ad where the guy's driving home with the super 3000 in the backseat of his convertible and the guy is just finishing the billboard on the side of the road for the super 4,000. It's like, you know, obsolescence is only a day away. So waiting for the next great thing is probably not the thing to do because it's something new is going to come out tomorrow. Anyway, so that's number one.
The other thing is, I would think buy the machine now before prices go up. And then if you can, hold on to your trade-in for a little while and see if prices do go up. I don't know. If you guys got any thoughts on that. I think that the likelihood of prices going up that much, it may just be worth trading. Do it now. Get your trade-in and go from there. And then he talked about memory.
I've got 32 on my MacBook Pro, and whenever I go into Activity Monitor, I rarely see the memory being used above 16 to 20 gigs being used. Although, back to the advice, right? You buy as much as you can afford, perhaps a little more, especially if you're going to keep this machine 8 or 10 years, which you can easily do with Apple hardware.
So um that's some nebulous advice uh there right yeah but it's you know buy don't wait for the next best thing because as soon as you do the the next next best thing is going to be right behind it buy as much memory as you can and as as for the tariffs i don't know maybe it's almost i think it's almost like timing the stock market you're going to lose when you do that just just pull the trigger and be happy with your gear. Is that anyone else?
I have thoughts. I just to give you a comparison, your M1 Pro CPU, this is according to MacTracker, your M1 Pro CPU in your 2021 MacBook Pro has a multi-core speed of 12,000. Okay. The M4 Pro in the 2024 MacBook Pro has a speed of 22,000. So essentially twice as fast, not quite, but in terms of the CPU, twice as fast.
So factor that in and bear in mind how, and you only you would know this but bear in mind how often you're actually using all of your cpu power because you know i i mean i'm i'm in the i'm i'm recording a podcast right now streaming video doing lots of things and i'm you know um i don't know 30 on my og mac studio here base model right so you know just like think about that maybe maybe 35 40 something like that but it's not
I'm not taxing this cpu i'm not anywhere close and and that's a what is that cpu that's a m1 max so probably very similar to what you've got there i don't i don't have it up in front of me in terms of memory I think the most important thing to look at is memory pressure in Activity Monitor and see. You know, he mentioned that it was using 42 gigs of memory and then it was down to 24.
Well, you know, Unix in general and certainly macOS manages memory to take advantage of everything you've got as often as it possibly can. And so the amount that's being used isn't as important as how it's being used and how much is being used to make the machine respond faster, like with caching and things like that.
So look at memory pressure and the other thing, and you can see both of these on the memory tab and activity monitor at the bottom, you want to look at memory pressure and the amount of swap used. If you're using more than like a gig of swap, then that's telling you that you're using more RAM than you have. But otherwise, those would be the things I would look at.
Yeah, that's a very good point about, you know, it's going to use what you have if it can. Obviously, right?
Maybe not obviously. I mean, like, yeah, but yes.
I mean, that's the idea. if you have the physical ram it's going to want to use that over you know doing unified or going out to your your hard drive now what that means for performance versus one or the other, that's where i think it gets a little bit nebulous right it's like how because apple's ssds are really fast and they've focused on this unified memory thing and, I guarantee it's not as good as physical RAM. I would almost guarantee.
I guess I shouldn't guarantee that. But I would think logically that the physical RAM is going to be better in terms of performance overall. But yeah, I think you made some very valid points there. The only other thing I have to add is kind of goes back to what Pete was talking about earlier is about not waiting for a machine. And it's almost the opposite, not opposite, but it's a complementary view that I've had for years.
And I think I've said it before, but I'll say it again because I think it's important for people to hear. Buy a machine when you need a machine. I'm only saying that here because I don't know, it doesn't sound like maybe he needs a new machine. He's just worried about the tariff pricing stuff and wants to get ahead of the curve.
But the reality is just like pete was saying with stock market all this stuff goes up and down and up and down and up and down technology's changing so quickly and you don't know what's going to happen a year from now or two years from now so throwing money at a problem you don't have today because you're worried about something that might have you know is going to be happening tomorrow i mean buy a machine when you need a new machine and get the most machine that you can get that's
That's the basic advice I've given everybody. It's like, if you need a new machine, if there's really a reason why you need it, and the need can be, I just want one.
That's okay. Right. Yes. Yes, for sure. Yep.
Whatever your need is, I don't care what your need is, but don't just buy a machine because of some external influence that you're, I don't know. I don't buy that way. I buy it when I'm like, that's why I don't have a new machine currently. That's why I'm still on this Intel machine. It does everything I need it to do. Why am I going to throw $2,000 at a problem I don't have?
Right that's a great that's a great question to ask i and and i i think it's probably not always a rhetorical question right because there have been we have all seen technological advancements that would actually give an answer to that question right it's because it's not Not necessarily. Why am I going to throw $2,000 at a problem I don't have? That's a good question and is almost rhetorical. Changing it slightly to why might I want to throw $2,000 at a problem I don't know that I have, right?
And so I'm thinking of when we migrated from dial-up to cable modems or broadband connections, we all lived within the confines of what we had on dial-up, right? And I, you know, it might not come as a surprise that I am an early adopter. I got, you know, a cable modem the day before I was ever able to get one. You know, I wanted to be number zero on the list. Like, oh, of course I did. But that's me. And then I would go to my clients. I was in Austin at the time.
I'd go to my clients and be like, all right, well, we got to get you to a cable modem. And it was a hard sell for a lot of them.
Even people that would you know always make sure they bought the latest and greatest computer this was at a time when you basically had to buy a new computer every three years if not every two years right and i was like why are they hesitant like this is not it's really not that much more money per month like or even per year what's the hesitation and the hesitation was they couldn't see why they needed it because everything they were doing worked
on dial-up because all they had was dial-up right they didn't enough of their colleagues slash friends slash peers whatever Weren't yet doing things that they were aware of that they now had envy right like wait i want or need to be able to do whatever you're doing and and but you know once i and it's hard to show people here's how fast the cable modem makes your internet browsing when they don't have a cable modem because you know i didn't really want to bring everybody to
my house but uh you know but like that kind of a thing without knowing what your problem is you don't know whether you should throw some money at it or or even just throw some headache in time even if it's not extra money so i i know that was a long-winded way of Saying that, but welcome to the world of my brain.
Only you have to live in there, Dave.
I don't recommend anybody else jump on this thought train.
No, no. We'll run for fun in the discord, but you know, people think computers are expensive now go back to the eighties or nineties. And what I'd add to that is actually, I mean, if you, if you consider just the straight dollar amount price of computers, they haven't gone up they've actually gone like just not even accounting for inflation or just like the pure dollar number right they pretty much remain either flat or are actually cheaper yes this is a weird thing to think about.
I used to i used to do easy what and but even not comparing what they can do right like you're right adam i used to know that every three years i was going to spend three grand on a computer and now every eight to ten years i spend for it on a desktop computer this was not even a laptop right and now every eight to ten years i spend probably 1500 bucks on a computer or two grand on a computer yeah yeah yeah now of course
i'm spending you know a thousand dollars a year on a phone and you know watch and like so so maybe if we add it all up. Right.
Yeah. Yeah. and, and Will points out again, three grand in 1995 was a lot more money than it is than three grand is today, but that's why it's 1500 today. So it's probably pretty comparable in terms of percentage of inflation and like all these other things, like they've remained relatively. And that's because of the advantages of manufacturing and technology and things have gone down and gotten faster. Like there's all these balances, right? So, yeah.
Yeah, Moore's Law was interesting to follow right up until somebody decided that we could put two cores, well, somebody, it was Intel, decided that we could put two cores inside of one CPU, and then Moore's Law was kind of out the window. It was like, oh, they don't just need to get faster and hotter and more power-hungry, do they? Thank goodness. All right, well, that was fun. Barry has a question. My early 2019 iMac died because its SSD died.
Rather than mess around with it, I'm just going to boot the system on an external drive and put the iMac in the basement to be used for exercise and streaming TV only. Okay, repurposing. Fine, no problem. I have on order a Mac Studio, which hopefully will be here in the coming week. He's got some complaints about FedEx holding Apple deliveries, so I don't know anybody that can nudge that system.
What I've been thinking of, and I've never really heard discussed, is that when you have multiple backups, like Barry says he does, which one is the best one to use for recovery, specifically with Migration Assistant on my new computer? He says, I have Time Machine, I have Carbon Copy Cloner, I have Backblaze, and I have Q-Sync, which is data synced to my QNAP NAS.
Do you have any knowledge or ideas on this i need to get set up and going as soon as possible because i'd rather finish my taxes which have been held in suspension and i don't look good in stripes same barry uh adam
Yes, this is pretty straightforward, especially since he said he needs to get back up and running quickly. So the correct answer would be whichever one of those backups is on your fastest local drive. So meaning it could be a time machine drive. It could be a carbon copy cloner drive. But you probably and if you have the one that's what we use these days, Thunderbolt, right?
Sure.
USB Thunderbolt one or USB 4 or 3 or whatever, but the one that is physically connected to your machine and the one that is the fastest. If you have a choice between the SSD and the spinning drive, use the SSD one. That's where I would start. If all you have is an over-the-network backup, then that's going to go a lot slower because it's going over your network. You can also do the trick, although I never had much luck with this.
There's the trick where you can stick a Thunderbolt cable between two Macs, right? I think that still works.
Yeah. I mean, Barry can't do that because his SSD died in his old Mac, so he's reliant on backup. But that is generally my first path to choose. It's not necessarily the fastest. It can be. But it is the most convenient and therefore often the fastest because if I'm migrating from a working computer to a new computer, it's possible – this is my brain working. Again, I told you you don't want to go in there – that my backup probably doesn't
have everything exactly up to date. So why not just transfer from the computer I'm using to the computer I'm going to be using? And it's easy, right? You plug a Thunderbolt cable in or a USB cable in and, and effectively, you know, you're off to the races and it, it'll, it'll shuttle all the stuff over and it's, it usually works, you know,
You want to know a dirty.
What's that?
I think the last couple of times I've done it because I haven't been in a hurry. I just let it do it over the network. It has been fine.
And that too. I've, yeah, I've done it over wifi. That's true for sure.
Yeah. Why not? But it's not fast. You, you, it's several, I mean, yeah, it's half a day, you know, basically I just set it up and I walk away and I go do other things and then come back and it's done.
I, I have started a migration assist because I'm impatient. So I'll start it over the network, right, to get it up and running. And then I will dig out a Thunderbolt cable and plug the two devices into each other and watch it migrate from change. I know it's migration assistant, but it adapts and it says, oh, I've got a faster connection via Thunderbolt. It actually tests the two and says, all right, yep, we're going to go to Thunderbolt now.
And then it uses Thunderbolt for the rest of it. So you can do all kinds of things.
It the one thing and it's been a little while a little over a year year and a half now maybe knock on wood i don't have to do this anytime soon that was an expensive summer a couple years ago losing all those computers but um the one thing that i've found in the past that really slows it down is if i have installed homebrew for whatever reason that migrating and it's probably because it's lots of little files or whatever but it's super
that like and i think we all kind of realized this at one point it was like why is migration assistant taking so long and somebody like looked at the logs or whatever and it's like oh it's that because it's tons of little files so it doesn't really take advantage of the speed of the connection you know it's just one by one one by one one by one but i mean it gets it done you know like you said like overnight good to go
But fastest direct hard drive.
Yeah. I agree with that. You got anything to add to that one, Pete?
No, I really don't. Um, that that's it that, you know, I would have just on the surface of it. I would have said, you know, the clone obviously. But the connection is the, is the key, right? Don't do it over Bluetooth. It's going to take a while.
Oh man.
Yeah.
You'd have to work pretty hard to make that happen.
No, I get that. Yeah. I'm just, but that's my point. It's the connection, right? I mean, it's so, but yeah, I would, I would definitely, if you've got a clone, obviously That to me is, you know, that's going to be the most accurate. No.
Depends on how recently.
Yeah. Yeah. Least overhead. I mean, yeah, because of versioning and extra data in time machine.
Yeah. My gut, I have not done any testing on this. My gut would say that, would agree with you that the clone would likely be a more efficient path than pulling from time machine. But that's assuming all backups are equal. Right. You know, the place with your most recent data is the best one, you know? Yeah.
Right. Yeah. I mean, that's why I tried to do a clone a couple of times a week. Just, you know, I just plug it in and let it go and walk away.
Yeah. But I mean, time machine's continuous. So like in his case, right, his SSD died on his internal. So who knows when his last clone was? It could have been the day before. Right. Yeah.
Yeah. And, and, and to Kiwi Graham's point in the live chat at MattGeekGab.com slash discord, uh time machines apfs snapshots are pretty efficient that is very correct yeah yeah so and really time machine's always been efficient even when it was using you know the kind of sort of hard links in hfs plus i mean it you know it just mounted like a volume because it was a volume and you just read from it so yeah yeah anyway uh gw has a question for you pete he says i've
used 1Password for many, many years. Would you guys suggest changing the passwords in 1Password at regular intervals like every six months or every year? Or is it okay to just leave them be until they have to be changed by either a work policy or a site policy or perhaps a breach that requests or mandates it?
So, you know, it's always good practice to look both ways before stepping out into the street. And if you're going to change your password, you're basically putting a blindfold on and stepping out into the street because you don't know if you're stepping out in front of a hack that's going to get your new password. Or if you're stepping out behind the bus that's already passed and it's never going to get your password.
Assuming somebody's trying to hack your password actively as you're changing your password.
I i tend to be in the school that changing your password for the sake of change is a waste of time and non-productive and perhaps even less secure if you're if now he mentioned he's using one password and that's great because you can use these powerful random passwords and not have to remember them but if you're changing them to change them and you aren't using something like that, now you're going to go to something less secure because you're trying to be
doing something that's memorable and therefore easier to crack. But I always like to refer people that ask the password question to Steve Gibson's grc.com slash hastack. And he's got a great example in there. Try to visualize, close your eyes and visualize this unless you're driving, keep your eyes open. And one of the passwords up there is uppercase D, zero, lowercase g, and 23 dots behind it. And then below that, he's got a password that's all uppercase, lowercase numbers and symbols.
And the thing about that is it's only a 23-character password, whereas the D0G is 24 characters. So which one is harder? From a massive cracking attempt, the easier one to remember is far more strong because it's going to take longer to get there and crack that 24-digit password as opposed to a 23-digit or character password. So, and it goes back to, I talked about it on the show a few weeks ago, I'm sure, is padding. I try to pad all my passwords with either a symbol or a letter or something
along those lines. Now, some of them don't let you repeat characters and stuff, and that's kind of annoying. But I find that putting a long password in and padding it is helpful if I have to remember it. But I am firmly in the camp of it's a waste of time to change your password unless your company or whatever is forcing you so to do.
I would... I understand why the length of a password is objectively better, more important rather than the entropy of the password, right? The variability. That's the word for entropy.
Thank you.
However, knowing that we have known that and knowing how humans are, if I were writing a password hacking algorithm, I would try lots of characters together in a row because I would prioritize trying that over something else. Now, what you don't get with this is, you know, unlike somebody like we see in movies when you're cracking a safe, like, OK, I got the first number. OK, I know I got the first one I got. You don't know if you're trying to hack
somebody's password. You don't know if you've got 23 of their 24 characters. Right. You're just trying random things all the time. So, yeah, I guess I I guess the argument still stands. I can't poke holes in this. The length is more important than entropy. yeah yeah size especially
If someone doesn't know the length because they've got to start by eight and then nine all nine characters correct i'll think
Yeah you don't know that's that's why i use a not four digit passcode on my iphone yeah um because with a four digit you can you know it'll show you okay here's the the four things only 10 000 possibilities you know what yeah you know what you're trying to do whereas mine mine actually could be a four digit passcode um It's not obvious because I choose that option of, you know, use a variable length.
I forget what it is, but that way it's, it's just not obvious to someone who picks up my phone, how many digits there are in my passcode. So same. Yeah. You do the same thing, Adam. Yeah. Yeah.
Yeah. And I actually, and I know I've talked about this before too, but I actually use a good luck finding it. If you can find my phone and still can't get it.
Yeah.
Uh uh like a character with an accent over it and i know which character and which accent is in there and where it's placed in there so good luck yeah
Have fun with that that's right yes
Um i i have something actually specific to add to this uh that backs up what you were saying pete about um you know changing it is actually probably worse than not if you're doing the right best password practices and you have something that is very long with you know a lot of randomization and stuff like that and this came up because my company forces us to change our password every 90 days on our like microsoft account or whatever it might be and i have made a case it hasn't
gone through yet but that this is a really bad practice and i was doing some research on this and the national institute of standards and technology nist changed this requirement in their documentation back in 2017. That's how long they've recommended not doing this. Verifiers should not be required to change memorized secrets arbitrarily, and that's because their research found that when you do that, people tend to choose, exactly like you said, weaker passwords.
And so they said, you're better off teaching them to create the correct good passwords and then not ever have to change them. And especially, again, in this case where you're using something like 1Password and randomly generating a very long password or something with a lot of, what do they call that? Do they call it entropy? Is that what we just said? Yes. Yeah.
I think that's the right word, too. It sounds like we're smart using it. I'm pretty sure it's the right word.
50-cent word of the day, folks. Entropy.
Yeah, so this is in publication, Digital Identity Guidelines 800-63B, Section 5.112, Memorized Secret Verifiers. So it's that section if you want to go reference it.
And it looks like the NCSC, which is the UK's National Cyber Security Center, gave this same advice, I think, in 2015. Yeah, 2015. They basically said the same thing. It's pretty well accepted that forcing people to change their passwords is just not. No bueno. Yes.
The only time they recommend it is when there has been a known breach or compromise. Then you absolutely need to go change it. So let's be very specific.
Right, yes, yes. Forcing change for the sake of change or scheduled change, not so great.
Yeah, and even Microsoft changed this policy back in 2019. They used to require Windows passwords be changed like every 60 days or something like that, or that was their recommendation. And they got rid of that requirement too.
I suppose I could make an argument that in a corporate setting, I'm thinking of, And it's been a while since I've been in a corporate setting. So, but back when I was, and even if I wasn't the IT person, I became the de facto IT person for a lot of people. People would come to me first or any, or even when I was doing consulting, right? I knew everyone's passwords. I had to be able to get into their computers.
There was not, this was not a time where multi logins were a thing, but even when they are, a lot of times you're troubleshooting a problem with that user account versus another user account, right?
You need to be able to get in. people don't want to have to be over your shoulder you know typing their password and then getting out of your way so you can troubleshoot and all that stuff so It's likely, unless you enforce some really strict penalties for sharing your password with coworkers, it's likely that more than one person at the company knows your password, right? And so if, obviously, you would expire the account or close the account or certainly at least change the password.
If it's my account, if I leave, you'd change my password. But if I leave, would you change everybody else's passwords?
You know who would be the one to realize wait dave yeah dave knew everybody's passwords because we all gave them to him willingly right you know and we don't expect dave to do anything bad but if dave doesn't work here anymore shouldn't we all change our passwords so i could not hear man dave's not here yeah exactly so i could see that being an argument for regular scheduled password changes in a company environment i maybe one
That drives me nuts is we have two-factor authentication so even if you know my password you know you've got to use we use octa
Yeah you
Know you're not getting in without the second factor
That's fair but
They're making us change it anyway drives you nuts yeah
Yeah yeah yeah well
And i'll be honest with you mine i have to change it.
They check
Back on the last 10 passwords so guess how mine gets changed super long password one next 90 days super long password same super long password two yeah this is the problem right.
I guarantee you're not alone and
Then i get to 10 and then i start at one again, yeah so it's not really changed that password's not changed because.
Right
Well yeah exercise and.
They finally changed it uh where i where i am and and the problem is there i used to just it was four previous passwords so i'd go in and change it five times back to what it
Was right and they
Finally put a kibosh on that but
Yeah let us know what you folks are doing and your thoughts on this because even just as we're having and we spent five minutes talking about this and or more actually I think it was about 10 and, uh, and, and we're already kind of coming up with the nuances of this. So let us know feedback at Mac geek, cab.com. I'm, I'm curious.
You heard him. Feedback at MacGeekCab.com.
Yeah, we'd love to hear from you at feedback at MacGeekCab.com.
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What size battery do you travel with when you want to have something extra in your bag? And I'll leave it nebulous. The follow-up question would be, and what is the thing that you would be charging with that battery thing or things that you would be using that extra battery to rely on? Adam do you know
Uh yeah i was trying to go find it um i i don't even know the size of it i want to say it's just a little like 10 000 milliamp hour thing from anchor anchor however we say that i'm never really sure yeah yeah um i don't remember the little it's like this little model and it's got a built-in uh usbc cable i don't think it was very expensive yeah uh oh here it is the Anker Nano Power Bank. It's 30 watt, yeah, 10,000 milliamp hours. Comes in a bunch of little different colors.
It has a display on the front that shows you the charging. It has a built-in USB-C cable. So I'm usually just plugging that into my iPhone that also acts as like a little loop. And then it has a USB-C port for either charging or you can also charge from and then a usba on it it's just a little tiny thing it was 40 40 bucks i think i got for less on amazon it's.
32 today or 30 if you if you're willing to not buy the black color so
Yeah yeah different i got i got that uh i got the little purplish color or whatever because it was like cheaper at the time so that's.
The most expensive one now that's 35 bucks now yeah of course
Reminds blue i think it's actually the light blue oh there.
You go yeah
Yeah okay
Uh all right yeah so based on that's that's what i use i have a i have a much bigger one that's you know massive that i've had for years but this is my new go-to for especially for traveling.
How about you pete
Dave size doesn't matter but as long as you're asking 20 000 milliamp is what i have okay and it's uh it here's the cool thing about the one i have and i can't tell you the brand it's in my backpack but sure it's got the chi charging capability on it or in this case it's now mag safe right yes that's that's even more important which is nice because i actually had to loan mine one time on riding on an airplane scale it's like do you have a cable and of course i
had the lightning cable she was samsung but i had a chi charging battery right there and she was able to use it to charge her phone to to make a text home um so that's it it's 20 000 milliamps It's got USB-C, USB-A. I don't think it has many, but it has the Qi charging and a little display on it telling me the battery state. Yep. And the basic answer is that, you know, obviously not going to try and charge my laptop off it, but an iPad and or an iPhone.
That's my go-to battery backup on the road. And then back in cool stuff found right after CES. So late January, we had a couple of these and there's some nice little ones that fit right onto your Right onto the back of your phone and in your pocket.
I want to ask you a question, though, and I'll share what I'm using now because mine has changed. You said, obviously, I'm not going to charge my MacBook with it. And so my question is, why?
Well, because I don't have an Intel MacBook. I don't need it. I can go all day.
Okay, that's fair. That's fair. Yeah. Yeah. All right. Okay. Because I have always kept, like, I probably have, you know, two pounds of batteries in my travel bag. And last week we talked about that INIU, the 10,000 milliamp hour battery with, you know, 30 watt output and Qi2. And I charged it up, you know, it came at like 60% or whatever. I charged it up and it was Saturday.
And i was sitting on the kitchen counter kind of messing with things and real messing with my laptop and realized oh you know it's down to like 20 i didn't charge it last night like i have this battery here it says it's got a 30 watt output on it let's let's see and a built-in cable like okay and it's 35 bucks so it's like you know the same price as the thing adam talked about a little bit more actually Adams is is uh cheaper and and arguably perhaps better because it's got the little screen
on it but this one's chi2 so you know mag safe-ish right um so I could charge it that way or plug it into my phone but I plugged it into my laptop and it brought me from 20% to about 75% so the 10,000 milliamp hours in that battery gave me a 50% charge on my m2 macbook air right and okay and so i was like okay wait a minute now that i've done this you know i could give my laptop 30 and my iphone a full charge on this thing with just this little 10 000 milliamp hour battery
lightweight already has its own cable in there and what i can't do is charge via chi 2 and usb at the same time right it's either or it's not gonna power out both ends Right. So like I can't do both simultaneously or at least maybe not. I didn't try it with another cable, but like it was in that moment that I realized I don't need more than a 10,000 milliamp hour battery in my travel bag now because to your point, Pete.
It's rare that I would be in a scenario where my laptop needs a top up during the day, but not impossible. Like the scenario would be, I forgot to charge it last night. Right. Like that's or or two nights ago or whatever, you know, but like it could run out. So I want the ability to buy myself some time.
That's that's the Boy Scout in me. Fine. Always be prepared. but like when and then i thought well you know i i travel with three batteries in my travel bag and my question to myself was you know i travel a lot in the first quarter this year i never used any of them ever like yeah in in three months of a lot of travel and including like going to conferences where you know i'm using either my phone or my laptop at sessions you know all day long yeah actually i might have used i
have a chi battery from anchor that and it's like an anchor pop socket battery that's got a pop socket on it i may have used that at south by southwest it's possible in fact i think i i brought it with me i probably like i brought it with me out of the hotel one day i probably used it but okay so that's it like when am i going to use these things so yeah I
Would actually like to say one other thing about batteries and travel and and The airlines did a disservice to the public when you had to turn your Kindle off for takeoff and landing. And, you know, can't use your cell phone, has to be in the airplane mode, you know, and, you know, it's bad. It could bring the airplane down. And really the engineering hadn't been done in the, I wouldn't actually, that's a misstatement.
It was the FAA that was, that was doing that. They did a disservice to the traveling public, because I think that leads to the, you know, How many people texted? How many people did phone calls when they weren't supposed to be doing it? And it never hurt anything, and so they got away with it. Or just forgot.
Yeah, or forgot.
And my concern is that that got people into the same mode with the rules about batteries. And let me tell you, I'm not worried about the battery in your AirTag. It doesn't have enough juice to do the damage. If it goes high order, it can damage the AirTag. and that's about it. Let me tell you, a laptop battery or one of these 10,000 lithium-ion batteries, they go high order, it can bring an airliner down, and that's no BS.
So when they're saying don't put those in the cargo hold, that's because there's no way to fight a fire down there. If it's in the passenger cabin with you and the overhead starts smoking, someone can get it out and put it. The flight attendants have bags to put this equipment in. Should it go high order. Yeah, they're on all the airplanes now. So they can fight a fire if they can get to the fire. Guess where they can't get to the fire? Down in the baggage compartment.
So they're not kidding when they say, don't put your batteries in check luggage.
So you're saying that the disservice, I want to make sure that A, I understand, and B, we articulate it right for our audience. You're saying that the disservice is that they... They they made they made a rule that we all knew was not as important as they made it out to seem. And therefore, we now apply that. We got in the habit of breaking those rules. I got it. OK. Yeah. Thank you. I just wanted to make sure that this one they're not.
Right.
Say that again, because I might have spoke over you this time.
Yeah, they're not kidding this time. The battery the battery rules are important. Uh they are uh life and death important
Got it thank you okay that's yeah that's good to know right because it's they they did do us a disservice like when you know you could shave during takeoff and landing but i couldn't read on my kindle you know and like yeah or my wife could knit during takeoff and landing yeah i was not all that comfortable i'm very comfortable on airplanes uh when my wife was knitting next to me during a landing i'm like you know this could like if we bounce too much man i like i don't know i
Got one word toronto
Yeah yeah yeah things
Can go badly quickly
Yeah yeah yeah all right thank you for thank you for sharing that now
Pete's got me worried because i you know like they're not they do they they're not scanning for that kind of stuff right so like yes i'm trying to think of like all the iot things all the things that now have lipo batteries in them.
Yeah and a
Number of times people might not even know they have a thing that has a lipo battery in it in their.
Check language i went to check i went to check a bag i had like jet blue mosaic or something so i could check two bags for free and i was going somewhere and i was like you know what just check the second bag i had a you know i had a big suitcase for some reason in a small one and I was like check them both like it doesn't matter sure and the woman stopped and she's like wait you were gonna bring this on the plane weren't you and I was like yeah that was the plan
she's like so you didn't think about batteries is there a battery in this? And I said, yes, there is. Thank you for asking. So I pulled it out and she said, if I asked her, I said, what would have happened? She's like, oh, they would have bounced the battery out. So in her mind, anyway, there was some scan that is happening to all of our luggage and they're looking for that.
Here's where the hole is, I think in the system is if someone doesn't ask that and you're at the gate with your bag and now they're checking your bags.
Correct.
And those aren't getting scanned, I don't believe, before going into the cargo hold.
Yeah, because they've already been through TSA scans, but TSA doesn't care about batteries the same way the leverage does. Yep, that's right.
And Matthew in YouTube put up the comment that, you know, he's joking, oh, last you can get out of your cage and put the fire out because you'd think they'd have some extinguishers in there after all these years. And they do. That being said, they do.
Uh-oh. We lost Pete. I think they've silenced him, Adam. Oh, no, Pete's back. Okay, great. I'm here.
Oh, I went away? All right. I've been here the whole time. Just ask me. But Matthew's point is they would have firefighting in the cargo hold, and they do. But... So firefighting, standard firefighting does not put out a lithium ion battery like you'd think it. Go on YouTube and look at some of those videos. You can, if you put it in ice, it actually makes a little igloo that insulates it and it makes it hotter. So it needs to be submerged in water. Interesting.
And the firefighting equipment in the cargo hold is not going to submerge your battery in water while it's catching everything around it on fire. Yeah, right. So there's no good way to fight a lithium-ion battery fire in the cargo hold. So while there is firefighting equipment down there, it ain't good enough.
Thank you. Again, I'm just thinking about electric shavers, and I'm thinking about brushes.
Well, but I think to Pete's point that it's the larger batteries that are the issue.
Yeah, once you hit the 10,000 range, I think, you know, that it's… Thank you.
Maybe
Even 5 000 but uh but yeah
But not the one in the toothbrush or the like you said the air tag or those sorts of things so all right cool thank you we have time for one more adam do we have time for one more sure okay i
Had a question from who is this from gw says i'm not sure if this is a geek gab question i think all questions are geek gab questions but i had used the mint budgeting app for many, many years until they moved to Credit Karma. And it's not at all like it was. There are so many apps out there to choose from. Do you guys have any recommendations of a great one? It did everything I needed for budgeting and tracking. Thanks, as always.
So it sounds like he's looking for a replacement for Mint Budgeting, a budgeting app. Anybody got recommendations?
I do, actually. I answered this one. I really liked Banktivity.
Oh, yeah.
Yeah, when I came over from Windows, I actually ran Parallels for years so I could keep using Quicken because Quicken on the Mac sucked.
It's better now. We'll get to that. Yes.
Okay. Well, this is 18 years ago.
Yeah, exactly. And it did. It sucked. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Yeah. But banktivity was fantastic. And you could put in, you could link it to your investment accounts and all those sorts of things. And I found it to be great. Now, over the years, I have since let go and let my financial advisor. And I don't balance my checkbook twice a month anymore like I used to, but it's fantastic. If you need to track financial data very closely, I found Banktivity to be an excellent, excellent software.
Yeah, and it's still being updated all these years later. I looked at the change log or the release notes, same thing, and the most recent update was February of 25. So they're on it, macOS and iOS. So they are Apple-only products. Okay. Interesting. Yeah. I, yeah, yeah, yeah.
The iOS app was pretty good as I recall. And it looked nice.
I mean, I liked the look of this. Also the pricing, I think he blew by the pricing. It looks like a subscription, but it's not crazy. Five bucks a month for the base tier. I don't know what all the differences are.
But. Yeah. It's somewhere between 60 and a hundred dollars a year. So, and I, I bet it'll, I bet it'll tell you that if you put that in your budget, it'll save your budget. So, you know, literally has the opportunity to pay for itself so yeah i mean
That seems in line with like probably what you had to pay for quick and back in the day.
Well this is just budgeting um although i guess what else would you be using these things for i still use quicken i was one of those people that that lived through the dark times and there were two versions of quicken for a while there was the old version which i think was quicken five is what i have in my head or something and then they kept trying to release these versions that were this watered down thing that i'm sure was great but not for those of us that were using like all
of the nitty-gritty features of quicken and then quicken stopped being uh an intuit product and that's when it really started to finally head down the right path i i still use quicken uh interesting i did not know that but it's a it's a much better piece of software now uh than it it was in those dark times you know um so yeah no i i quicken quicken's what i use but i you know i think i think i'm Am I using Quicken Classic? I think I am. Yeah, Quicken Classic is what I'm using these days.
That's kind of the more nitty gritty kind of thing. Yeah.
Is that the one that's still local or all this stuff cloud?
No, it's, it's local and you can choose to sync it with the cloud in various ways if you want. So, yeah. And, and, and it will pull down your, um, you know, your data from your banks and sync and do all the things that, you know, things do and it'll do your investments and all that stuff too.
I mean, it got to the point where I could import my statement and hit reconcile and it would balance my checkbook with a couple clicks.
That's what I do with it. Yeah, it definitely does that. You were going to ask something, Adam?
I was just going to say, quick, it looks like it's priced similarly to Banktivity.
Yes. Yeah. Yeah, I think I'm paying about $100 a year, maybe less. I think maybe $60 or $70, but it's in that range of, yeah. It's worth, for me, it's worth paying for it. It keeps, keeps me from not looking at my finances, which is good. I need to like keep an eye on things. So, all right. Well, I think we, I think we succeeded. We, we did the thing and the thing is called Mac geek up 10 85.
So I bet we come back next week and do it again.
Yeah. There's plenty that we didn't get to. So we're going to have to, yeah, we're going to have to come back to that. Yeah, I guess so.
Sorry.
No, I love this. A lot of rabbit holes this week. Yeah, we did find a few, didn't we? Yeah.
Yeah. Stepped in every one of them.
That's fine. I think so. You let us know, though. Like, this is our show. I don't mean that it's the show of the three of us. All of our, not just the three of us. If you are hearing this, it's our show. So let us know. Like, we hit more than one rabbit hole today, as Pete articulated.
Thoughts on that let us know really you know well we can we can probably reign it in i know we can tighten it up yeah we can tighten it up we have tightened it up this show's shorter than it used to be uh and more focused i think than it used to be so and that's because of the conversation we all have together about what what we want from this show so yeah it's good thanks for hanging out All the bandwidth. Thanks to CleanMyMac for doing our monthly giveaway.
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