It's time for MacGeekGab and listener Ventmore, and our Discord brings us our quick tip of the week, telling us that if we need to undo something on our iPhones and we don't want to shake to undo, there are other ways. You can swipe with three fingers to the left to undo, to the right to redo, and you can also tap with three fingers and get a little message up that will offer to undo for you. I had no idea, and I love that.
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And we'll talk more about that in a little bit. For now, here in Durham, New Hampshire, I'm Dave Hamilton.
And here in South Dakota, I'm Adam Christensen.
And here just down the road from Dave in New Hampshire, where it's snowing, Dave. I don't know if you noticed that when you're in the pre-show break, but there it is, a snowy day in New Hampshire. It's Pilot Pete. Good to be back with you. Police code 1076 en route to a prowler or en route. So we are en route somewhere. I think we should be en route to some quick tips.
Oh, that's a good segue.
Roll it, roll it, roll it.
Well, the first of many Steve's writes in. He says, howdy. I find myself activating Siri accidentally from time to time while engaging in everyday activities, such as putting on a t-shirt or roughhousing with my dog. Excuse me. Digging my phone out of my pocket to turn Siri off is sort of a pain, especially when dressed in snow gear. On previous versions of iOS, I had to say goodbye, and S-Lady would think about it briefly and then give some strange answer like, sure, don't mention it.
As of iOS 18, simply saying cancel just turns off S-Lady as if I had pressed the side button and there's no voice confirmation. This is much faster, much less fuss, and I don't confuse people around me saying goodbye out of nowhere like a weirdo or sounding like the AOL guy, Steve.
And that folks is the classic example of a quick tip it's one of those things i've been doing i don't know how long so clearly since 18 but i i have to tell her to be quiet all the time and i simply saying cancel works huh yeah yeah i
Don't think that's i think that's been around for a while i've been using that one for a quite a while so.
Interesting i like it yeah yeah it's It's in your workflow.
That's it. Yeah. I can't say whether I've done that before or not. It feels new, but I don't know if it is for me because it's also is one of those things that might actually be intuitive. So, you know, we'll find out.
I would like it if abort worked. Abort, abort.
Oh, that would be fun. Yeah, yeah. Belay that order. Yeah.
That'd be another good one, too. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Well, let us know. Feedback at MattGeekab.com of any other things that you found that will stop Siri from doing whatever it's doing at that moment in time.
You heard him. Feedback at MacGeekCab.com. Let us know.
Pete, was that feedback at MacGeekCab.com?
Yeah, it was.
Yeah, it was. The second of many Steve's writes in with yet another thing I had no idea about. He says, I was playing with some files for my home assistant setup, and I had different files with .json, .yaml, .py extensions, and they were opening with Xcode by default, but I preferred editing them with bbedit. You can do so by right-clicking the file and selecting open with and select BBEdit.
But if you want that file to be open all future times with BBEdit as well, without that extra step, just hold option on your keyboard while selecting it. So you're doing the right-click open with, and before you click on, in his case, BBEdit, you hold the option key down. Now click bbedit the next time simply double clicking that file will open it with bbedit sadly it does it file per file not per type uh so it's only one file at a time so if you do it with a .json file it will
only do it with that .json file not all .json files if you want to do it with all you have to go into the get info window and change all there but uh but yeah i had no idea that you could do that i i hope to incorporate this into my workflow too so thank you for that steve that that's yeah good one for sure very cool did you know about that adam
Uh i did not.
Yeah but uh
You know that magic option key that we talk about all the time does all kinds of fun stuff yep.
Exactly exactly yeah Rod L. sent us a link to an article from the Tailscale folks that instructs, they tell us that there are three different ways of installing Tailscale on macOS. One is the App Store version. One is the standalone download that you get from Tailscale themselves. And then the third is a command line version. They suggest that we all use the standalone variant, a.k.a. The app that you can download from TailScale itself.
And they recommend that over the App Store version because they say it offers the best combination of security and usability for most users, takes advantage of features introduced in macOS 10.15, namely support for system extension-based VPN implementations, And they provide a more secure alternative to the older legacy kernel extensions. And they also allow it to do some other things that keep it more reliable than the App Store version is allowed to do.
So if you are running Tailscale on your Mac, make sure you're running the downloadable version from Tailscale and not the App Store version, which for me was 100% of my machines were running the App Store version because, of course, they were. So, I need to change those over, yeah.
That's a good general tip if a developer does offer a direct download of an app. Not in all cases will it be different than the App Store version, but many times it can be because the rules are slightly different around what they're allowed to do. So, a lot of the App Store versions... I shouldn't say a lot. Some of the app store versions can have less features and you might not even know it.
Yeah, I know I started to use the app store version of DaVinci Resolve from Blackmagic simply because that would keep it up to date for me. And DaVinci Resolve is not an app that I launch frequently. It's maybe once a month. And every time I launch it, it's like, hey, do you want to download an update? And it's like, no, I want to use it now. And it's also, unfortunately, one of those apps that Mac Updater cannot auto update. So you have to do it sort of the manual way.
And so I had switched to the App Store version and then found out, oh, no, no, no, no, no. No one uses the App Store version of this app. It doesn't have all the features you need. So it's like, all right, back to the other one. All right.
I got a couple from Borthos John. I'll start with one of them here. Okay. Brothers John says, especially now that I use AI Assistant with my DevOps work and even simple terminal commands, I find I need more and more to paste things into a prompt to ask what it means. It's easy to copy from a window and then paste in the terminal, but sometimes it's a pain to go the other way.
This tip makes it easier. after any command you type if you want the result to go to the clipboard for pasting simply pipe it that's using the pipe symbol to the command pb copy that means that at the end of the command you type a pipe symbol and then the words pb copy and that will copy that the results of that to your clipboard.
Ah, yeah. So I'll put an example in there for you, Pete. One of the ones that Porthos John suggested was if you want to paste the contents of your Etsy hosts file into ChatGPT to ask it if it might be causing you a problem, you would type cat space slash Etsy slash hosts space, the pipe symbol, which is simply the straight up and down thing. That's above the backslash on most Apple keyboards, and then space, and then pbcopying.
You don't have to remember any of this, folks. I will make sure it's in the show notes there. But then that way, you could have put your Etsy host file into ChatGPT to find out if that was causing you any issues, Pete.
ChatGPT's never wrong.
Well, yeah, isn't that the truth?
So, oh, man.
Yeah.
So, well, I'll take us to Alex, And, of course, the note is absolutely screwed up. And what he wrote, I've somehow managed to delete when I put the note in and answered. Yeah, because, you know, that's what I do. I didn't go back and double check that. I feel badly about it. But what he sent in turns out to be a great tip and didn't realize I was doing this. And once I took his tip, it got me back to all mail. So, one of the things that Google Gmail does is it puts things into categories.
Wait, wait, wait. Promotions. Keep going with this. I think we're talking about iOS mail in the end. Yeah, we are. Okay, great.
We are, but these are Gmail. My understanding is this is only, it works with Gmail accounts.
No. No, no. Oh.
Is this only iOS mail too?
Okay. Yeah, let me take the tip here because I think I understand where Alex was going. For years gmail has had categories uh where they will they will put your mail into buckets if you want them to and now apple mail has started doing the same thing if you like that you can leave it alone if you don't like that and it this is not just with gmail accounts it's a feature they they borrowed from gmail but it they do it with every i
Didn't realize that okay yeah i use a gmail account in my
Ios exactly no it's not inheriting well i don't know whether it's inheriting gmail's categorization or not but like my fast mail account does not have that on the server but it certainly could have that on iphone and if you want to tell people how to turn it on and off on iphone do you remember pete
You just go into the settings, the three, what are they, the hamburger menu?
I don't know.
Three horizontal lines in the top left corner.
It's the three dots in the top right corner, but that's just nitpicking. Yeah. And, well, at least on my phone at the moment, there's three dots in the upper right corner.
And then deselect categories.
You can choose between categories in list view. That's right. Yeah. Yeah.
And then if you if you unchoose categories, so to speak, or choose list, you get all your mail back instead
Of here's a bonus. Quick tip. Have you ever been annoyed by the little if you switch out of the categories of you or even if you're in it? Mail now shows you this priority window at the top that summarizes what it thinks are the important messages that are still in your inbox. You can turn that off with this menu too i just noticed because there is a show priority option and you can just kill that and then that would bring you back to pre-iOS 18 non-AI filtered email
So yeah and none of this stuff has made its way to the mac yet.
Right oh no i believe it has i think the mail categorization exists on the mac if you have an ai an apple assistance capable mac
Oh okay that's why i'm safe.
I think yeah maybe because
I don't see any of that stuff on my old intel and that's.
Probably why got it i'm pretty sure it's there and i had to turn it off there but maybe it was just on my iphone and ipad yeah i i but i certainly turned it off i i do not need my mail filtering is already set for me i don't need something else added to the mix thank you very much yes yeah
No super simple like you said yeah the three dots and right there list you in categories So, so I already started it back to list view.
Sorry. I'm glad you helped because I,
I completely goobered that note in notes and didn't notice it until I went to read it.
Got it. Yep. No problem. So whoops. Hey, it's all good. That's why, that's why we don't just do that. None of us do, does this show solo. We are all here. We're all here to help each other. And that, that starts with the three of us, but it doesn't end with the three of us. We all, so many of these quick tips come from you. we're we're not the ones generating this stuff right we all help each other we're just we're the funnel does it make you feel good to be a funnel i don't know
I have a good example of this from ed go because he has a follow-up to some stuff we were a tip from our previous show so in episode 1075 um we were covering we had a quick tip for multi-tabs in the finder where you can hit shift command backslash, and then you get this expose-like view of all your open tabs. And he says, in episode 1075, we asked the question because after displaying it, we noticed you can do the control tab to tab through those Finder windows.
But there didn't seem to be a way to select that tab and bring it forward. Enter didn't work. Return didn't work. We couldn't figure out the command. Well, Ed did. He says, all you have to do is type shift command backslash again. And then it'll go to that selected tab.
It's pretty easy to remember once you know. It turns out. Yeah.
Who knew?
Well, Ed knew. Ed was one of the people who knew. We got a lot of emails about this. Porthos John also knew. And then Porthos John had even more Finder tips to share, didn't he?
Correct. He absolutely did. He says, after listening to MGG 1075, I realized that two Finder quick tips are related to the command. Is that a pipe? Yeah.
Yeah. Does Command Pipe also work in the Finder to do this? Oh, it is Command Pipe because it's Command Shift Backslash, which it turns out is Command Pipe.
Oh, you don't need the shift?
Well, I don't know how else to get to the pipe character without the shift. This episode seems to be all about the pipe character.
Oh, so we've been saying it wrong.
Well, I don't know. I think Command Shift Backslash, but you're right. It's Command Pipe. Yeah, yeah. Whatever. Potato, potato.
Okay now i see uh so that that command that we just covered to bring up the finder windows from the tab uh you can do shortcuts for both of these either via the keyboard uh they are on the window menu in the finder so you can use settings keyboard keyboard shortcuts to set them up or a gesture via something like better touch tool so he says uh move tab to a new window I like dragging and dropping files or copy-paste between windows and not tabs,
so I have a shortcut set up to move a tab to a new window on the Finder Window menu or right-click a tab, which then makes it easy to drag and drop or cycle between for copy and paste with the keyboard.
So that's one and then he says two merging all windows after number one above i like to clean up my finder windows into a single window with tabs so i have a shortcut for merge all windows, on the finder window menu which you can find in the finder window menu select it and all your windows become tabs in a single window so the tips here you know set up you can use that keyboard shortcuts or something like better touch
tool with gestures to set up additional window management or tab management in your finder window.
Huh move tab to new window that's fast and this is not when that switcher is open this is just when the finder just in just in finder in general i never knew about that move tab to new window command oh yeah yeah i need to set up keyboard shortcuts for that faux show huh oh yeah that's huge and the collapse all tabs to one window merge the merge all windows thing whatever you want to call it yep yep uh okay this is great stuff i i prepped this one and i didn't understand it as it was
as you were reading it adam that i was like oh wait a minute i need this in my life yeah yeah yeah i think i'm going to do it with keyboard maestro only because then it syncs to all of my macs whereas if i do it with the add a command to the the thing right it'll only be on that mac and then i have to remember to go and do it on the others and i'm i'm lazy so uh i will use keyboard maestro but i will create a group of macros
in keyboard maestro and set that group to only be active when the finder is the front most apps so that it's not in, it's not grabbing whatever keystrokes I choose and doing it, but yeah, that's great. Love this.
Yeah.
All right. We have another follow-up, don't we?
We do. And I'm probably going to need help again, Dave, because the note is absolutely goobered.
I have no idea what's going on in this. I can't help you on this one. Well, no, no, no. We're not going to guess our way through it. We're going to skip it because there's a specific command that I remember Bill told us about, and we're just going to get it right for the next episode. Okay. So we're going to go to Niceville Steve because I have noticed that the Don't Get Caught that you prepped for Lucas also has nothing in it.
What is going on?
I don't know. I don't know what was happening when you were doing your show prep, but it was fun.
Something weird.
The good news is that by moving into the Don't Get Caught section, we get to our third of many Steves.
And this is niceville steve who said beware texts that appear to be apple wanting to change your password niceville steve continues he says i got scammed almost with an early morning text waking me up saying it was from apple i realized shortly what it was and with the help of apple i stopped them from changing my password but be cautious because they are very crafty with the help of AI says I've had 20 plus years of training in this and I still got caught. It's true that the.
The scams are getting better. I was on a happened to be in a staff meeting yesterday with one of my other companies. And our one of my partners said, oh, hey, we just got a note from Twitter, a copyright violation on one of our tweets. And we actually we got three of them. And it's like, oh, crap. OK, what did we do? You know, OK, fine.
So in the email, it looked like it came from X. Um and the domain was something we dug once we dug a little deeper we realized it was a scam but the domain was you know something like recovery dash x or you know security dash x.com so a quick look right exactly it looks like x.com exactly and they had a screenshot of and a link to the the tweet in the email and saying you know we've we got a copyright violation report from the copyright holder after a thorough investigation
we have determined that they were correct we will be closing your account if you do not reply within 48 hours click here to you know log into the the system of course and then it wanted our x password at a domain that was not actually x.com and therefore our password managers didn't like light up with our you know with our login or anything like that so but and and this particular guy is a way better programmer and and even
more tech savvy than me and if it weren't for the both of us being on the call together i think we figured out it was a scam before we clicked through i think clicking through would have been the thing that triggered us to realize wait wait why isn't why aren't we logging into our account like what's going on here It was really, really well done. So, yeah, don't get caught with this. It's hard, though. Like, you know, you get that thing and it's like, well, crap,
we need our X account. Like, okay. So, yeah.
Here's the thing on that sort of stuff. And this is what I have told my kids and my mom. And I think it's the general good advice. Never click the link in the text or the email. Go to the service. Log into your account. Like if there's a problem, they're going to tell you when you log into your account that there's a problem.
Yeah.
Just don't click the link. You know, go on your own. You know it came from X, so go to X, log into your account.
And that's what I did. I did log into our actual X account and looked at our notifications because I know darn well that it would be the top notification. Like it's super obvious.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So yeah and then if that doesn't work call support you know if it's Apple right call Apple right be like go to Apple's site find their support number open up the support app Apple chat which is great if you don't have the support app on your phone just the Apple support app you can initiate a call you can initiate a chat with Apple from that and then you can just ask them hey I got this thing is this legit yep.
Yeah and oh by the way Apple support never initiates the call to you
Correct.
Oh, yeah, that's fair.
You know, because that happened to my mother-in-law. They got, you know, Apple support. It was the caller ID, and they took her down the primrose path. So, yeah, it was terrible. I managed to fix Lucas's Don't Get Caught because that was recent enough that I was able to pull that up.
All right, go ahead.
He says, when I go into a new event on Apple's calendar app on iOS or Mac, I'll get prompted to duplicate a prior event if the titles are similar. By selecting the prior event, it creates a duplicate event at the new time. Logically, by design, it copies over all the other prior event information, including the invitee list. The trouble is, the list of suggested prior events is not limited to those I created. It also suggests events I was invited to.
Thus, erroneously, I could think I'm simply adding a reminder to myself on my personal calendar, but I'm actually accidentally inviting 100 people to a new instance of a prior meeting. Of course, I know better. I don't get caught, but I've been invited to more than one accidental meeting this way, and I'm sure Apple considers this a feature and not a bug, but it would be nice if Apple provided a setting saying, only suggest prior events I created.
Wouldn't that be nice? Cheers. The other Lucas in the Chicago-ish land. And now I know why my co-host on the other show I do keeps inviting previous guests to record with us.
Yes. He got caught. He got caught. That makes sense.
We recorded with him already. What are you inviting him for?
Yeah.
So.
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Thank you.
Nice. Yeah.
Pete, are you taking the one from 1.2 or is that back to me?
Oh, I got it. I was going to do 12.20 is the one that I had in front of me.
I just did 12.20.
Dave just did that one. Yeah.
The short one
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Should we get to some questions?
Let's do it.
Uncle Jamie has one for us. He says, which 2.5 gigabit switches should I get? I have two managed Ethernet switches in my network that I would like to upgrade to 2.5 gigabits, right? From one gigabit?
Gigabit, gigabyte. I think it's the same for the giga realm, isn't it?
I thought so. I don't know. The GB ones. He wants to go to 2.5 GB from one. And he says, I need VLAN support. I don't want to buy some off-brand switch from an alphabet soup named foreign company. One of my existing switches is a TP-Link, but there's now a dark cloud over that brand. What do you guys like?
Uh first of all the dark cloud over tp link is with their routers not their switches uh i i believe so and even that like take it you know controversy yeah yeah yeah so uh but i don't know that tp link makes any affordable 2.5 gig switches because i just bought a bunch of 2.5 gig switches when i updated my network to yes 2.5 gigs uh And so the, the, the, the one, if you want a, like, and, and, and this conversation sort of evolved and uncle Jamie said they were looking for a five port switch.
My favorite five port switch is the ubiquity. What's it called? The USW flex five is, I believe the name of it. Yes.
The flex mini 2.5 G. uh it's 49 i don't know where you're gonna find a 2.5 gig switch and what's cool about this one is it can be powered with usbc so you plug it into you know whatever power source you want or it can take power over uh poe power over ethernet so i actually have one of these in my attic powered by the switch in my house that switch in my house is plugged into a ups so in theory the network doesn't go down when the power flickers and
all of that stuff i don't want to put a ups in my attic because i don't like the idea of having a battery above my bedroom when it's 125 degrees in the attic i don't know that's just me uh but yeah if you so that that's definitely the Five port switch that i would recommend i don't know where you're going to find a five port switch for 49 bucks that's 2.5 g and the fact that it's poe powered is icing on the cake but if you
want larger switches uh the ones that i bought are those off brand never heard of it before um you know switches but they are working for me the first is the good 16 port switch from Goodtop. Yep, never heard of them before. But it is web-managed, and it works great. It is, that one is kind of the hub of my network, if you will. And it, it works fine. So, you know, not sure what the, what good top is, but it works great. So yeah, it's clearly a Chinese, you know, a Chinese brand or whatever.
It's two 29 right now. And then there's a $40 coupon you can apply to, to bring it down to less than 200 bucks, which for a 16 port switch is great um yeah yeah so and then i also have a zike store eight port switch x i k e and again don't know what this brand means but you know it also works great has been running i bought these in early october and they've been running on my network since um i i have not really found 2.5 gig switches from the known name vendors or
at least i didn't in october and if there was one it was so prohibitively priced that i it was just like well i'm clearly not gonna you know do this so um that so that's why i bought the off-brand ones and just figured well i'll see what happens and they all they work great i mean if you are hearing this show they worked because i'm going through let's see one two the one in the attic because i'm in the studio three all three of the switches
i mentioned my signal is going through in order to record this show so nice yeah yeah it worked it worked and i get it's amazing even with um You know, the direct burial cable that's, I mean, it's got to be 25, 30 years old now that lives between my house and my office that was patched once.
I still get two and a half gig from the studio all the way down underground to the house, up to the attic, over, down to the other side of the house, 2.5 gig all the way through, which amazes me that it works on that, you know, direct buried cat five, but sure does. So I'll take it. Questions, thoughts?
Just do we need to provide any clarity? Because I didn't understand the dark cloud on the TP-Link router thing. So I Googled it real quick. It seems like back in December, there were some allegations from a couple of defense department or departments in the government that TP-Link routers were being hacked by Chinese government, basically, for buying things. And I think the allegation was probably that there was some security issues. I would assume, you know, the company came back out.
I would assume by now those have been addressed, hopefully. But, you know, I don't know what the follow-up is. But, like, this is, like, your classic thing. Like, hey, security in this router isn't, it's got an issue. Somebody uncovered something. You know, and it's usually that whole cat and mouse back and forth. So, I don't know if I'd call that, you know, a dark cloud. It's just, I think, one of those things that happens from time to time.
It might be more.
Am I wrong on that?
I don't know. I still will recommend the Deco routers because of how great they are for their price. However, maybe this is the reason. The issue is that TP-Link is a Chinese company, and therefore the Chinese government has some version of ownership control. I don't quite understand all the things, but it's the same concern that we were seeing with TikTok and all of that. So the question is, is that like, is the Chinese government able to use these TP-Link routers and any Chinese made routers?
Like, let's be clear. It's not limited to TP-Link. They're just the big brand name that we know about. Right. But, you know, any routers made by a Chinese company, could there be a could they be used to, you know, form some future coordinated cyber attack on the U.S.?
Okay.
That's the question.
I mean, fair enough.
Yeah, fair enough.
I think it's do your own research. You know, what I want to get back to is like, do your own research to make sure you understand, you know, this stuff. Like, I mean, I have certain things I won't use just because I feel certain ways about things, you know, but that's me.
Right.
To each their own.
Right. Yeah, I haven't seen any major issues with the TP-Link stuff, but please, I mean, I don't see everything. So let us know um where we we often change our minds when faced with new information here on mac geek app so like in fact i would say that that that happens more often than anything else here
We i think that the allegory here is i don't i don't use tiktok and i do that for a specific reason and i'm a lot on a lot of other social media platforms yeah but that's my choice i know a lot of people love and love tick tock and think it's great.
They've got the best algorithm. They bring us things that, that bring joy to our lives. Like that. It's, it's great. If, if you're into that. Yeah. So, yep. I don't spend a lot of time on tick tock either. Probably. I probably should spend more there and less elsewhere, but you know, that's, that's, that's, that's my issue.
So, well, because of their algorithm, it could be a colossal waste of time. So avoiding it altogether up front is.
Yeah.
Right. You know, that's, that's why I don't do a lot of video games because I know what a time suck they can be.
It is the reason that I don't get into back into video games. Cause I know how much time I spent with them as a kid. And it's like, yeah, maybe that's what I'll do in my retirement. Yeah.
I might have cool stuff found for you guys a little later coming up here.
All right. Oh, that's not good. That's not good. Okay, Adam, you're a bad influence. All right, let's get to that. But shall we do Larry's question here, Pete?
We shall. We shall. And you know what? I actually know where it is, and I can read it this time. I'm a little less discombobulated than I was earlier in the show. Oh, my. What a date. Anyway, hey, Larry writes in. He says, I have a car stereo that I've used for years successfully with Bluetooth. If I'm listening to a source, be it a podcast or music, when I leave my vehicle and then come back in and turn on my vehicle, it picks up where I left off with the source.
My rhetorical question is, is that how Bluetooth is supposed to work when connecting to a Bluetooth car stereo that has been paired with it? In other words, if I'm listening to a podcast and shut off my vehicle and go in and catch a cup of coffee and then come back and turn my vehicle on, I should pick up right where I left off, right? A few updates ago, it started acting differently. About 75% of the time, it would start up with a podcast when I went back into my van.
The other 25% of the time, it would launch the music app and start with the very first song in my library. And you took this part out, but he was driving him nuts. Can you help me troubleshoot this
Properly yeah it was the it was the first song uh the introduction of the first song on noel gallagher's high flying birds record which starts with a lot of distorted guitar uh just like every oasis record did great songs but not necessarily the thing you want to hear when you get into your car however um i have experienced this too with bluetooth and it's I believe, yes, to answer your rhetorical question, yes, that is how Bluetooth is supposed to work.
It's supposed to resume what you were listening to last. However, if the app that you were listening to has been quit by the operating system to free up resources for something else that you were doing in the meantime, then it defaults to the app that is always available because it's built in and that is music.
And so then it just it knows it's supposed to start playing so it starts playing and it starts playing the first song in your library so i'm wondering and maybe you guys can help me cogitate on this what if a we put a song in the music library that comes up first alphabetically that we create that has a very slow ramp up to like nice sounding birds or some other pleasant sound, but starts at zero and comes up. We can create this song. Come to our Discord. We'll create this track, right?
So we put that track in. We'll figure out some way of naming it so that it's the first. We haven't done this yet, but I'm just... And then, is there a way to, when Bluetooth is connected, pause the music. So that you never get to the point where it's like blasting you with the next song, a.k.a. the intro of High Flying Birds. Is there a shortcut, like an automation that you can do on the iPhone? And I don't know this answer. This is all kind of, you know, I'm spitballing here.
But can you create an automation that is like i know you can do an automation for car play which might solve this problem for someone who has a car play car but not not a bluetooth car but yeah when my oh and you can pick the device yes so when the it's a trigger so you go into shortcuts on your phone go into automation add a new automation and then scroll down to bluetooth and choose the device and it will list all the devices that your thing knows about when you connect to that device
you can run immediately without confirmation and you can have it pause music or do whatever you want it to do you could even have it launch your podcast app at that point to bring it all back up but in the meantime like what what's first going to happen is it's going to start playing that song so you got i think you're going to want to have that song there otherwise you're going to hear a second of you know guitar and
then it'll the shortcut will trigger it will take a second and based on my experience and and what we've heard from other listeners it it the the music will start playing first and then the shortcut will kick in but that would be my answer i don't know what do you think adam um
Sounds good to me.
Okay yeah
Uh i do know that um i've known people.
Who will create
A just minute long audio file that's just silence and do exactly what you just described yeah you know put that as their very first song in their in their music library and you know i don't know how you avoid like i like to listen to my stuff on shuffle a lot so my library on shuffle so i don't know how you avoid that just popping up during that.
But Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
So that's the only downside is, you know, that's going to be in your music library.
Right. Right. Yes, it's definitely, it's going to be there. But I mean, if you're like me, you have things in your library you probably don't want anyway. So.
Yep.
Yep.
Can I circumvent and just do a quick audible cool stuff found?
You don't have to ask permission. There's no one who needs to give you permission.
Because it's kind of related. Do you guys know there's like AI services that will actually create songs for you? Yes. I did not know this. So I found out about one called Suno AI, S-U-N-O, I think. Okay. Okay. It looks like it's at dot com. And I only found out about this because I know a guy named Scott Fletcher through some podcast stuff. And he did a he has a YouTube channel. Find the link to it where he created a is Die Hard a Christmas movie like machine over the holidays.
Like he was doing bell ringing for Salvation Army. And, you know, it was kind of to pull people in and get them to engage and stuff like that. So he has a whole video, uh, Fletcher makes this his YouTube channel and he created this thing, but he wanted music songs to go to play, you know, and he created them all through this service. And I was like, some of them are actually really pretty good.
I know it's scary yep it's scary i'm trying to find the ones we had uh somebody one of our listeners of gig gab the podcast that i do uh for musicians he told it to yeah suno.com he used to write a theme song and sing it like lyrics and everything yeah
No it's the whole that's thought it creates whole songs yeah.
Yeah i i here's one that that he created for for gigab he told it make it in an 80s ballad style Working musicians, come on,
Let's give.
So that's the 80s ballad. Then he had 90s reggae rock. It's like...
Nice.
Always be performing. That's the way to live gig life.
And he did one with like 90s horn rock and like a gospel Jason Mraz kind of thing. But yeah, and you can adjust the lyrics. It's crazy. Crazy. Yep.
So anyway, didn't know such a thing existed, but it does.
It's amazing. I know. It's, you know, like all of this stuff, it's a tool and it can be used. It can be used to like, I know songwriters who are using it to help them like flesh out ideas. And, you know, for me, the best uses of all of this AI tech are when I treat it like a collaborator and not a not just go do this work for me blindly. Right. It's when I'm engaging and interacting with it.
It's crazy. Yeah. Yeah. It's crazy. um to that end i'll audible another cool stuff found in i every year i like to create uh an executive summary that basically sums up what we did in the businesses last year What we what marks we hit what marks we didn't what we can do in this next year and all of that stuff and january was crazy month to travel for me as you guys know and on the plane to la for nam I was like, I've really got to do this.
And so I'm like, but I just don't even know where to get started. And that for me is when I go to AI, right? That thought of like, I don't know how to get started on this. That's AI helps me with that, you know, that writer's block, whatever you want to call it, because it will create something awful. And then I can tweak, but it's now I'm editing and I'm in it. So it's awesome.
I thought, oh, well, I'll use AI on the jet blue plane. It was one of the flights that I actually happened to have Wi-Fi. And so I told it very briefly, hey, create me an executive summary based on what you know of all my businesses. I didn't even list the names of the businesses, right? And I said, and give me something that I'm going to edit and we can collaborate on. And it did. And the summary was 90% perfect, which was astounding. But it also jumped into the chat GPT Canvas.
Do you guys know about this, Pete? I know you use AI sometimes. So if you used ChatGPT's Canvas feature,
I have not.
Dude, what it did was it created a two-column view. The left column was a thin column, and that was my interaction, like, text back and forth with ChatGPT. The right, the wide column, was this executive summary. It could edit it. I could also edit it. It was like being in a Google Doc with someone else where we could edit simultaneously. Dude, it was mind-blowing. And it has existed since October, and I found it two weeks ago.
And it's – obviously, I used it for this, and then I even told it – like, I made some edits, and it was like, okay, I see your edits. Great. And then once we got it right, I said, now I want to add two KPIs per business so that we know what to hit in 2025. And again, I figured I'd edit. And as I looked at the KPIs that it added, I was like, gosh, you know, I wouldn't have set these bars because I'm the one that has to hit them. But these are realistic bars to hit.
So maybe I should just stick with what ChatGPT suggested. So, yeah, ChatGPT's Canvas. Amazing.
Crazy.
It's crazy. Yeah. And then there's the whole ChatGPT Pro, which is like 200 bucks a month. Uh, I, well, but it has, I forget what it's called, but it's like, it has agents. And he told this guy on Twitter, uh, he recorded a video of the whole thing. He told it, Hey, um, he'd always had this idea where he sees people on Facebook marketplace wanting to give away pianos and people wanting pianos. And the issue is moving the piano because nobody has the wherewithal to move a piano.
And so he thought he's always thought well you know there's a business opportunity there of just simply moving pianos you could spend the weekend moving pianos at 200 bucks a piece and you know you make a thousand bucks a day the what the heck and so he told the agent this with his $200 a month chat gpt account and said go lot here let me log you into my facebook marketplace account and and you go find these people and message with them and only
find people within this radius with these certain parameters and build me a schedule for saturday where i can go and move pianos and it did it like real time on the fly as he's doing this video for 15 minutes you're watching chat gpt messaging back and forth with these people setting up appointments yeah
So that is off the charts
Off the charts so
I gotta ask now obviously i'm not going to go 200 bucks a month, but you said it's Canvas. I'm not seeing where that is in ChatGPT. How does...
The way I've learned to invoke it is to say and use Canvas for this and then it just comes up. I invoked it accidentally when I said, I want to collaborate on this. And it decided to move to Canvas. But you can do this mid-chat. You don't have to do it to start a chat. And for programming, which I have not yet tried it with, people say it's amazing because you're getting this sort of interactive code partner. So, yeah. Right. Yeah. So just say, use Canvas, and it will do it.
Okay.
You put something you put something in the in the show notes adam
Yes uh just now.
I think this uh is diehard a christmas movie voting machine that
Was that was where i found out about the the sonos ai music that's the link to scott fletcher's youtube channel brilliant uh and he goes over how he built the whole machine with an arduino and all kinds of stuff so that's that's where i found all.
That stuff amazing amazing love it well and here we are in cool stuff found um yeah gird
Your wallets folks
Yeah i don't know they are no next one oh i gotta get back summer free i gotta get back to my mac geekab thing because i've jumped over to gigab to find those songs right um this was actually a cool stuff found in response to a question in our discord where porthos john was asking uh he says she my wife works with her macbook air open and has a ultra wide monitor on her desk she prefers to keep the dock on the laptop screen because the ultra
wide is above it both physically and in arrangement settings because if she pauses as she moves to the top the dock moves and this annoys her How do I tell the doc to freeze and stop moving to the secondary screen? And Paul Conaway, within about a couple hours, replied with an app called HiDoc that solves this and other doc problems that you can download for free at HiDoc, H-I-D-O-C-K dot app.
And it does all kinds of things where you can choose where you want the doc to be and where you do not want it to be. And you can send a donation if you so choose, but it is available for free. So that's high doc. So thank you for that. Paul Conaway. Great stuff. And thanks for answering the question in the discord. I love our discord. Randy Walker posted also in our discord about another app that is from our friends at the icon factory.
And the app is called tapestry and it combines posts from all your favorite social media services like blue sky mastodon tumblr and others and also rss feeds and podcasts and youtube channels and more and all of your content is presented in chronological order with no algorithm deciding what you should or shouldn't be seeing um so uh and it is i think it's advertising supported is how uh how the icon factory is paying for this but um but yeah it's free to
download uh on the app store so fun stuff oh i know yeah i like i know when i saw that i was like oh i probably need to download this i haven't yet but i
Would assume it's not including x right because their api is still all private and not.
Available i would assume that to be true yeah there there is no third-party access to x anymore yeah i know i like yeah i mean i i get it from a business standpoint they want to control the advertising and make all the money they can so that they can capitalize the investment but i think there's a long that's a long road to hoe i'm
Wondering am i misunderstanding what you're saying then because i use an app called friendly for twitter which lets me have b3 accounts logged in with an interface
Is the app yeah um but you're logged
Into your twitter account right.
It is logged into the Twitter
Account. Is it just a web, like a web view of your Twitter account?
No, it's an app with... It's called Friendly for Twitter. So maybe I'm misunderstanding what you mean by there's no third-party access to X.
I thought they had closed off all third-party access to X.
Yeah, I have to use the X app. I can't use... I mean, they shut down...
When was their last update? Like, do they somehow have, are they grandfathered in for a little while longer?
You're asking the wrong person. I've just used it.
Yeah, the copyright is 2019.
Okay.
I'm not seeing.
I'm not seeing it in the app store. I don't even know where I got it now.
I mean, I have a, I have a link to it. I mean, I have a link to it for the app store for sure. Yeah. I'll put a link in the show notes. I'll put a link in our, our Twitter, in our discord too. Sorry.
Apps.apple.com.
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. But my guess is that this won't work forever. It's not supposed to anymore. Yep. Yeah. For sure. I am trying to launch it on my iPhone here to see if I can download it. Friendly for Twitter. It says I can get it. I've never tried it on iOS. Yeah. I'm curious if I can log in. But yeah, I'll try that later because we've got other cool stuff found to do. But yeah, yeah, yeah.
Interesting. Because it lets me use all three of the X accounts that I have and switch seamlessly betwixt.
Yeah.
So there's an impromptu cool stuff found.
Yeah. Friendly.io.
Yeah.
They do not list this app on their website anymore.
Oh.
Yeah. So it's a, they certainly couldn't update it. I can't imagine. I mean, I don't know. Yeah.
Huh. You know, it's probably, for lack of a better word, a browser that logs in and presents it.
Oh, it definitely is. I just launched it and it brought up the Twitter. Yeah. So it's just a web view for Twitter, but I mean, still.
Yeah.
Yeah. do you get notifications from it or no i
Don't know i don't think
So yeah my guess i don't leave
It up i don't leave it up and running
Right okay yeah that makes sense yeah all right should we move on to uh let's do it the agenda here of of uh yeah
Yeah we got lots of stuff to get to.
Yeah you're up
Uh am i up yep oh i think i might not have tagged that one hold on let me add a audible oh yeah here we go pro notes mark mark has pro notes where you can add formatting ai templates markdown and apple notes uh for those of you who want to use apple notes like and like to use markdown plus a few other features like formatting bar templates ai as a paid upgrade there is something called pro notes to supercharge your apple notes huh.
I know i know this is why I teed it up for you Adam because you get all kinds of things yup It's pretty amazing what this thing will do to Apple Notes. We were talking about it in Discord after Mark M. Suggested this, and we all now want this for the iPhone version of Notes, too.
So this is Mac only.
Yes, but you have this formatting bar that does all kinds of things. You can write in Markdown, which would be great for creating lists and such. So yeah i
Didn't i don't even think i knew that apple notes had extensions.
That is the first thing that came to my mind as well yes yep yep you can build tables with slash commands i've
Been wanting to be able to write and mark down in notes.
This is why i teed it up for you i didn't
Know i mean because apple kind of pseudo has it i think it does the heading yes.
Natively yes excuse me yep yep it's pretty amazing pretty amazing so obviously there's a link to that in the show notes guess
What day it is.
Uh national clean up your computer day no oh it's first friday oh yeah that too there it is uh you know you we could invite people to that with apple's new invites app that's available for iCloud plus users uh it'll allow you to invite up to 100 people i believe and like manages rsvps even if they don't have an apple account and of course you can make things look pretty and all that stuff i don't we don't like people in our house so we don't invite
people over but um if If we were to be those kinds of people that invited people, when we decide to become those people who invite people into our home, we will, we will create this. Maybe I'll invite people to gigs with this.
Maybe that's. Oh, there you go. Why not?
Come to the gig. Sure. I could send out invites. If, you know, if I sent out invites to 75 people and 20% of them came, that'd be great. Sure. I might start doing that. Why not?
So this kind of replaces evites.
Yeah, but only to a hundred people. I think that's the limit on Apple invites from what I seem to remember, I believe from the press release.
So I'm not sure I've ever sent an evite to more than a hundred people. So that's fair.
Yeah, that's fair. Right. Right. Yeah. Good point. Yeah. But yes, this does replace that.
So we all don't do Cirque de Mac Dave.
Right. That's yes. No, I, yeah, that was a lot of people that it got to a point where I didn't need to invite anyone to Cirque de Mac though. People, people came to me and asked for tickets.
They invited themselves.
Well, yeah, exactly. So to speak. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It was interesting, the people that I would get emails from asking to be invited to Cirque du Mac, like the people whose names we know, would email and say, hey, I hear you, the person to ask for invites. Interesting. Fun. Anyway, Pete, you've got one that blew me away when I saw it in your house. Pete is muted, but it still blew me away regardless of all of that.
Yeah. So I do have it. I actually started this over at the other house before we moved last summer because one of our two garage door openers, the light burned out. It was a 23-year-old opener, which worked great. So am I going to replace the motor and all that stuff because the light doesn't work? Even though you change the light bulb, light bulb doesn't work. This isn't any good.
Well, I had a garage light in the overhead, and with this motion-sensing LED garage light, it screws in and unscrews just like a regular light bulb, but it's motion-sensing, and it's super bright. And so I was able to have a motion sensing light always on in the garage. And anytime you walked in or open the garage door, it lit up the entire garage. And I went, oh, these are wonderful. Much to Debbie's chagrin, I bought a second one because we have two garage lights in our new garage.
And rather than deal with the one little dim 100-watt bulb in the opener, this motion-sensing garage LED light gives like 18,000 lumens.
Yeah. It looks like you're screwing a small ceiling fan into the socket. It's got the fan blades, and the fan blades are where the lights are. The middle of it is where the motion sensor is so yeah i i um i'm going to order two of these for my office garage mainly because i routinely leave the lights on in the garage and then i see them from the house and it's like well i'm not going out in the cold to turn them off i'm just leaving them on all night so this will solve the problem for me yeah
So yeah and they it works out to be with the two that i have in 18 000 lumens it works out to be excuse me about 180 watts which okay i figured out it's like 15 watts per 15 lumens per watt is about what it works out okay so um so it's a little over 100 watts but these things are uber bright yeah so i mean if you go down to one you know you're still well under 100 watts but you've got many many thousands of lumens
Yeah i'm gonna i'm just gonna plug two of them in and be done with it i i just added them to my cart and i'm gonna go check out because that's what uh that's what i that's what i do yeah and
Lights are always on um i find that when i'm in the garage looking through a toolbox for a given tool if i'm standing there for more than two or three minutes i have to wave my arm right hey light back on please oh yeah that makes sense okay yeah and you can set the time on it to a few minutes
Great longer yeah yeah that's great yeah when i come home from gigs i back into the garage the light from the opener is on and i start unpacking my car and invariably i am left in the dark you know three minutes later two minutes later or whatever it is so this is going to solve my problem all right cool how are we doing we we got okay we can get to these last two i am certain of it steve uh solves another problem with a cool stuff found uh called stop the
madness he says this is another great way to fix all of those annoying web forms that don't allow you to paste uh it's a safari extension and its main purpose is to fix all of those broken websites but it does so much more and uh and it's from underpassapp.com uh and it's called stop the madness and there's now stop the madness pro out there too so um yeah there's a there's a he even has a test page that will show the problems where
uh stop the madness will fix all the crap that web pages do to keep us from doing things that we just want to do and we want to paste into a form we want to paste into So thank you for sharing that, Steve. Great, great stuff.
Very, very nice.
All right, Adam, you said you had something for us.
Yes. Okay. So, I mean, this is going to depend. I guess there's some apps that you might get into that'll spend some money, but I love board games, games just in general, like physical games.
I also very much love, uh anything in the puzzle solving genre specifically what i call like puzzle boxes or if you like games like mist or the room or so these are things like you know back in the day you'd have a physical box that was locked right and you had to figure out like a secret code or a secret passcode or escape rooms is another great example of this if you're like really in escape rooms so neil patrick harris partners with this company called theory 11
and he's created this is his second version of this game it's called box two there's also box one which i highly recommend i think they're around 30 35 bucks and what's great about these is one it's a single player game so you don't see many of those you just play by yourself um and it the entire game box is basically a series of puzzles and challenges and thought things, and it ties into a website. And so you have to figure out all of these puzzles to solve the game, basically.
And I don't want to give too much away, but it's basically, you know, like an escape room or a thing. And the box itself is the like puzzle box. So you're interacting with the box.
You're trying to, you know, unlock secrets find secret compartments find objects do and um the first version is pretty good uh this new version is really really the pieces are all very high quality it's very well built very well done um i will tell you like it's a basically a play once and you're done kind of thing there's not a replayability but what they encourage you to do is once you've solved it you can hand it down or give it to someone else to play um,
And it's just amazing. So there's that. And then if you just want digital versions of this stuff.
Could you play it with another person? Like, could two people work?
Yeah, you could work on the puzzles together, obviously. Collaboratively, yeah. You could play collaboratively. But then, you know, I would encourage, it just depends how you are. I like to try and figure out how to solve these things on my own. Now, in box two, you are partnered, quote unquote, with other people through a virtual chat, but it's like an AI chat. Like, I don't even know if it's actually AI.
I think it might already have like canned responses based on what you, but basically, and what that is, and actually, I'll tell you this, be careful with that, because it's a hint system is what it really is. Oh, I see.
Okay.
If you don't want hints, do not chat with the chat thing because it will start prompting you. And each time you basically go back to it, it gives you more and more detail. So I learned that like on the first one and I got a little frustrated because it's like, oh, no, you're giving me too much information. So just be careful with that. But if you do get stuck, you can chat your partner and it will give you basically a hint. Yeah, okay.
Gotcha. Okay. That was my question. What if you get jammed up? You just can't figure out. Okay. So there's a...
Well, there's also... There's the internet and the game has Reddit threads. Right. Of course. You don't Google stuff either because they will... It'll give you answers. Yeah, right. So if you don't want to... You can get a lot of help. So it just depends on how you are, you know, how long you want to take with the game, you know. It's up to you. But I like to, like, figure this stuff out myself,
even if I'm really stuck. So like on one of these, on the new one, I got stuck and I was late and I went to bed.
And then the next day it was like, Oh, I think I know what I need to do, you know? And like, super super fun um and again like if you want more of the there's a bunch of ios apps that i would recommend that are all the same thing or like if you've ever played mist i think a lot of mac apple people yeah people know that know that game yeah in that genre um i love the ios series the room the room 2 yeah and the room old sins um there was also the really cool app called black box which is like a
puzzle game but it physically uses your phone like you have to figure out things that actually physical interactions on your phone to like progress.
Through the black box game. Like the gyroscope and different things.
Yeah, yeah. And then Monument Valley is kind of in the Monument Valley series. So all of those things are...
Those are the games I stay away from, Adam. But I do like well, I like playing board games with the family, like the interactive time with games. That is great. Yeah, for sure.
Yeah, that's what's great about these box one and box two games is it's really fun. And I You know, I finished box one and gave it to my brother-in-law, who's really into games. And I don't know what I'm going to do with this one now. But they're great. So highly recommended.
Fun. Thank you. Amazing.
Nice.
It's that time, guys.
Oh, yeah.
We're here. Thanks for hanging out with us, everybody. Thanks for contributing to the show.
Thanks for being like so active in our discord and everywhere it's just it's such a pleasure to be a part of this community that we all have so thank you for what you all you do more for this community than we do because there's more of you so it's thank you it's amazing it's really awesome ditto yeah it's crazy our monthly giveaway so as not to forget at macgeekup.com slash giveaway is you have the ability to win one of five copies of Carbon Copy Cloner, a.k.a. CCC Backup from Bombick.
So great time to register for the giveaway.
Thanks. Are you winning a copy or the original?
Nobody has the original. That's right. You're winning a license, Pete.
You get the clone.
You get the clone. That's right. Right. Okay. I did see something about how Apple fixed a bug the folks that The CCC backups competitor at Shirtpocket software that makes super duper posted something about how you can now make a bootable clone of Mac OS again somehow. I know. We'll dig into this for next week. I promise. I promise. Until then, thanks to Cashfly for providing all the bandwidth to get the show from us to you. Make sure to check out the other podcasts that we do.
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Adam yes sir what's.
Pete's shirt say
Well it has good advice for even pete like with his notes and it says don't get caught.
Good stuff follow it yeah so say we all so say we all later