It's time for MacGeekCab and listener Perry brings us our quick tip of the week with you probably knew that when you play an audio stream on your iPhone, you can set a timer to act as a sleep timer with the alarm to stop playing instead of a sound. So did you know that the reverse is also true? If you pause your audio stream in Sirius, Apple Music, etc., and then set the timer time and set the alarm to stop playing, it will actually start playing that stream when the timer ends.
I don't know how long a timer you can set, but it worked with a five-minute timer, and I had no idea of this odd functionality, but there you are. Perhaps it'll be useful to someone. More tips like this, plus your questions answered today on Mac Geek app number 1083 for Monday, March 31st, 2025.
We'll be right back. Greetings, folks, and welcome to MacGeek, the show where you send in tips just like that. We share them. You send in cool stuff out. We share that stuff, too. You send in your questions. We share them. And bonus, sometimes, hopefully most of the time, we even answer them or at least talk through how that answer might be found here in Durham, New Hampshire on World Backup Day. I'm Dave Hamilton.
And here in South Dakota, I'm Adam Christensen.
And here also in New Hampshire, it's Pilot Pete. Good to be back this week. Yeah. I made it in spite of my best efforts.
We missed you, man.
So I did it? Yeah. So, hey, quick addendum on that opening quick tip. The alarm thing and timer, I also found out that, hey, rather than set alarm, you can say, hey, S-lady, set a timer to go off at 7 a.m. tomorrow. And she does all the math. Oh. Oh, so, yeah. So you could use that as an alarm. If you want to wake up to a given music or something like that, set the set, the stop playing and you go, Hey, yes, lady set a timer to go off at 7am.
And if it's, you know, yeah, if it's eight hours, 43 minutes and 12 seconds, you know, It starts.
So you're just describing it.
So instead of setting an alarm for.
Instead of saying set an alarm, you're saying set a timer. And the difference of words will decide whether it's just setting an alarm. I see what you're saying. Yeah? Yeah. That's cool.
Yeah.
Very cool. I like it.
Yeah. We've got probably some show business and then some tips, Dave.
Yeah.
What do you think?
It's World What Day. it well it it's uh it's world backup day it's also police code 1083 it is uh is work or school crossing detail is what what it seems you found right adam yeah.
I didn't i didn't know what a work crossing was i've never heard of that school crossing probably
Road work or
Something like road work yeah that makes sense okay yeah
I don't know if you have a big factory with a parking lot across the street from the factory maybe they they have a crossing guard for that too i don't know maybe yeah yeah good.
Good opportunity for some overtime but it looks like a miserable detail in the big scheme of things because it's not always nice in springtime
Well that's the difference isn't it yeah yeah that's a good point um it's world backup day so i i figure it's worth at.
Least hold on backup it's what day
Just i sorry thanks that's what i, Can we back up to last week, Adam? No, just kidding.
Adam tried. He was 10 minutes ahead of us or behind us or something.
I figure it's as good a time as any to talk through our backup routines, at least at a top level. And, you know, like often happens on this show, we'll have a conversation about something for some reason. And that will catalyze kind of a, you know, a recurring discussion for a few weeks about that topic as we kind of dissect it and hone down on it. So this is as good a time as any to kick off that discussion. Pete, you want to go first? Adam, you want to? Adam, you go first.
Yeah, here's where here's where. So anybody who had listened to my show for a long time or knows me.
Um backups are hugely hugely important to me and i have a like i generally had had for the longest time a very robust backup solution so always time machine there would always be a time machine backup running um i have that mind set up locally for my wife and my kids it was a network time machine backup uh and then also cloud backup so using um backblaze i have that running and then i would have what i called my um kind of archival backup or more specific backup
where i would use chrono sync to back up very specific folders and documents and things in very specific ways to uh drobo that i had connected okay so that example of that would be like for when i was doing mac cast it would always take my anything that was in my mac cast folder which was all of my source files all of my show notes all of my materials and it would one way sync that back that up to the the drobo and then that drobo folder was also backed up to um backblaze oh
Because backblaze okay yeah.
Backup local external connected drives so like that specific folder and like i said it was a one way so i could always delete anything in that folder on my mac and know that there was a copy on robo and then there was a copy of that in the cloud like it never went away and so i do that with a lot of folders i you know it was also a web developer so all of my like web projects and and code and all that stuff was the same kind of thing my photos
was similar kind of thing so there were specific strategic things that it was like all right this is the stuff i want to have make sure i have a third copy of that it's an archive that what's in there will never go away even if i deleted on my local Mac. And that was kind of my setup for years. What I have to admit is since kind of quasi retiring from podcasting, and doing a lot of my outside development work, because I kind of ran my own business for a while.
And then that turned into when I went back to work full time for somebody that turned into little side projects, but it kind of got less and less and I'm pretty much not doing any of that anymore. So I very rarely have my Mac connected and a lot of the backup solution was reliant, especially the time machine on external USB-C drives.
Right.
Well, I was having issues with those disconnecting and it was causing other problems during things like shows like this. So one day I just got pissed and then it turns out this was just a little over a year ago and I just disconnected all that stuff. I was like,
I don't want to deal with it. You haven't Time Machine backed up? Out of a bout of frustration, you have not Time Machine backed up in over a year?
Since March 17th, 2024, apparently. I was just checking.
Huh.
Yeah, and Time Machine likes to pop up and remind me, hey, you haven't Time Machine backed up in, you know. But actually, it's good we're having this conversation because I just realized... Why haven't I set this up like I have my wife and kids set up because I have the Synology. It has a time machine network backup thing. I just need to move to that.
You just need to do it.
So I'm going to do that this week.
Your time machine backups are less up to date than mine are on this machine here in the studio. However uh this machine in the studio has not backed up to time machine since november 22nd of 2024 yeah and because it fails you know so yeah.
In my defense i do want to say i still have the backblaze backup running so there is a backup but i really only have one one backup but i don't do a lot on this machine anymore like honestly like i'm not recording this show like I don't, there's, I'm not putting stuff onto it that I need to protect anymore. And all of the stuff that I wanted protected, again, is in those other locations. It's already on the time machine backup. It's already in the thing.
I'm not creating any real new content on that machine. And, and also I will point out anything in my documents folder is also in iCloud. So that's in iCloud, that's in Backblaze.
So I at least have two copies of the stuff that I really care about yep and uh but i do need to get back to a to a time machine backup for sure and it's like i don't know why it didn't dawn on me it's like just set it up as a network one and then it'll just do its thing when it's just sitting around the house plugged into power you know yeah so yeah easy peasy problem solved problems
There you go yes exactly how about how about you what do you uh yeah so backup routine look like.
Man computers are reliable they never break hard drives you know what do you need to pack up for you know no especially
Especially especially when from 2019 right yeah it's gonna be
Fine yeah you're totally fine listen if it's worked this long adam it's just gonna keep working forever i'm.
Sure absolutely so i actually uh so i use the time machine that thing constantly runs to my synology drive that and i and now i have that i have two synologies one backs up to the other so that's kind of cool i really like that the but the main thing my main source if if i were to lose my laptop so to speak i would go to that time machine backup but the other thing is and i just realized that i pulled sitting here on the desk i looked oh it's
not there i have one of these little seagate USB hard drives. It's like two terabytes. Okay. And I should, after this show, plug it back into Debbie's iMac and get that up and running so that it's constantly running a backup to that. And so I try to do that to all the machines in the house. And I use either, I have both CCC backup and SuperDuper, and I run those probably every six weeks or so. I'll run a complete clone of my laptop. Yep. And then the other thing is, what's it called?
It's just Synology Drive, right? It's like your own personal Dropbox.
Yep.
So all of our household, Debbie needs an insurance policy or some other document or seed or things like that. We have a mutual folder that everything kind of goes into. And so if one computer is lost or broken or something like that, it's still there. Now, that being said, it's just as easy for something to go in and corrupt that and delete it. Sure. So my hope is that the Synology backing up to the other Synology would preserve that in the event we needed it.
That's kind of the extent of it. There's not a whole lot there. There's some, you know, a synchronization is not a backup. A cloud is not a backup. But it's better than nothing.
Well, I would disagree with that. Okay. Well, with an asterisk. I would add an asterisk to that. A sync without versioning is not a great backup is how I would describe that. But a sync with versioning, man, that's backup. In my world, like I've been able to go and get that stuff out of a backup. So, yeah, sync with versioning, which is what Synology Drive will do. iCloud Drive, no. Synology Drive, yes, assuming you turn it on, which you can.
So, yeah, I like, yeah, and my my setup, I use a lot of the same things you guys do. I have I attempt to have Time Machine on every one of my Macs running to some local network destination, whether it decides to start failing like this machine did in November and I didn't catch it yet. Fine. But it's not Time Machine is not my primary destination. Even it's not, it's not the primary thing that I rely on as a backup.
However, if I need to restore something from a backup, it is often the first place that I will go, assuming it's been working just because it's so easy. I use CCC backup on every one of my Macs to copy some files to my NAS every day and then also clone the entire drive to another local drive that's sitting right there on on every one of my desktop Macs anyway.
Um the other thing that i make a lot of use of is hazel from noodle soft which is kind of like folder actions the way they should have been done if if kids you can ask your parents what folder actions are supposed to be um but what hazel does is you point it at a folder and you can point it at many folders and give it a set of rules and it can do things with these rules it can delete old files and nothing else it can like i have mine set to like with all the audio
that i capture for the podcast it goes into a local folder on my mac anything that's more than two weeks old via a hazel rule is first copied to my uh a folder on my synology and then erased from my local drive so that I'm, I'm, I don't, cause I used to get into a scenario. It was like, how did I run out of space on this computer? Oh, I've got a year's worth of podcast recordings. That's why, you know, so Hazel just deals with that for me and puts it off over there.
Um, I also on one of my Macs use arc ARQ backup to, uh, to do some local backups.
It, it can back up to destinations like uh amazon s3 and things like that i have it backing up to an s3 destination that's actually my disk station but again it's just more sort of belt and suspenders kind of stuff but you could certainly use it to back up to a cloud destination that like an s3 or anything like that and then speaking of amazon s3 i back up my synology most of the data on it basically excluding media like video files um movies specifically because i i can't afford the
cloud storage that it would take to be able to hold all my movies but uh i i use synology's hyper backup to back up everything including all the stuff that i dump to it like the podcast downloads or the podcast recordings and all that stuff is backed up to a cloud destination and, is at iDrive E2. And this is S3 compatible storage. I've mentioned S3 a few times. S3 is Amazon's cloud storage offering.
And it is all done, you interface with it via, I mean, there are web interfaces that you can use, but your backup software uses API calls.
And those API calls are published and well-known and i guess not copyrighted or anything so other people can create uh apps their own apps with their own storage that are compatible with those s3 calls so i drive e2 is an s3 compatible backup destination and it's cheap like inexpensive i don't want to say it's cheap because i've had very good luck with it but it is inexpensive you know your first year of one terabyte is 24 and 75 cents
that's a full year you're saying that's half price your second year and they know they've got you so i understand this your second year is 50 but it's 50 for a terabyte of storage in the cloud uh for an entire year, And obviously you can scale up from there. So I'm a big fan of iDrive E2 and your first year is half price. So you can go check it out. We'll put a link in the show notes to that. But that's what I back my Synology up to is the iDrive E2 destination.
It's relatively inexpensive. And I think I'm paying, I think I have two terabytes. So I'm paying a hundred bucks a year. And then my Synology can just blast to that with hyper backup. My movies are backed up, but only locally. I just back them up to another disk station and it's getting to the point where I don't even know that I can afford the hard drives for the storage to keep as that keeps growing. But that's my, that's a Dave issue. So yeah.
It's a Dave problem.
If only Apple would compete with those prices.
Yeah. Can you imagine? Or if only Apple would let me choose my, my, you know, photo sync storage location. Like I just like, yeah, I know. I know. I know why they don't. As an Apple shareholder, I'm well aware of why they don't. But there is one other thing. I have a monthly reminder recurring on my calendar that says check backups. I do whatever computer I am on. When I see that notification, I check all of its backups. Now, obviously, it's imperfect.
I haven't addressed. I've been aware of the issue with Time Machine on this computer for a while. But I'm at least reminding myself once a month, hey, think about backups and, you know, I'll check Lisa's computer once once a quarter kind of thing. Just something to keep my head in the game so that I'm I'm aware of the holes in my backup strategy, I think.
Yep.
Yeah.
So am I. I think going back to my earlier thing. I think that is a big part of this, right? If you know you're not doing backups properly and you're willing to like say, okay, I'm not, that's okay too, but you're doing it with full eyes open. But don't be naive and think kind of like we were joking about, but a lot of people do think like, oh, it's a solid state drive in my computer. What could happen? It's never going to go bad.
I'm totally safe. And that's the trap. That's where you get caught. Yes. When that enters your brain, that's when you get caught. Now, me, knowing my time machine's broken for so long, I know I'm going to get caught if I don't do something about it. Yes. And I'm willingly choosing, I willingly have chosen for a year that I didn't care enough about it to do it.
You can suffer the, you are aware, exactly aware of what the consequence is. And you've decided that you can suffer that risk. Correct. If it were to happen, that's all. Like you said, eyes wide open.
Yeah. If my tribe died and I lost what's ever on there right now, it'd be like, yeah, that's your fault. Yeah. It's gone. You get to live with that choice.
That is a choice that you made in the past, you know, and now you're living with it. Dan Keeling, and I hope I'm pronouncing your last name right, Dan, said in our YouTube chat actually that he says my best way to describe hazel is email rules for your file system i love that thank you dan.
That was great. And I hadn't even thought about using Hazel in that sense because I use it like if I download my American Express statement, it goes into my downloads folder. Hazel immediately reads it, grabs it, renames it, dates it, and throws it in my American Express statements folder. But I never thought about using it because I'm constantly manually pulling old shows off, putting them down on the Synology drive, and cleaning off my… It's like, ah, brilliant.
Yeah. No, Hazel's great. I, I, I, I, I can't imagine that's another one of those apps that like, it just does its thing. I, you know, I, I haven't, I don't know when the last time was I built a new Hazel rule, but it was probably once in the last year, but I have probably 15 Hazel rules running constantly.
And if i didn't yeah i would my drives would just fill up and i wouldn't know where anything was it just yeah it's super reliable and super efficient it just the only time and it's really not an issue the only time that i am even sort of made aware of hazel is when i get an error from it saying hey your network drive's not mounted so i can't move the thing that you want me to move And it doesn't delete it like it knows I have the rule set up to stop.
And and and I know that, well, I don't even need to worry about it because at some point in the next few days, I'm going to reboot my network drive is going to remount the right way. And then Hazel will just take care of it. And it's all totally fine.
Yeah, there you go. And he says it's keeling.
Keeling. Thank you, Dan. Yeah, good stuff.
Um, so just a couple last things to add. I don't know, I guess we're probably getting close to moving on. Um, I want to mention that before I ripped all my drives out, I also did have a CCC backup running. So that's a, that's another part of the backup thing.
I think that's common among all of us. and then you said something very interesting about time machine like you said that's the first place you'd go to to try and like grab something even though you know like yeah it's it's a very easy place to restore i also have often said and i still believe this just this day if you are not doing backup currently i think time machine is the perfect place to start because it's super easy get a usb powered little drive like pete showed earlier
i have ones from western digital or seagate or whoever um and you know and it can even be a spinning drive if you want to save money and get more storage but you know ssds have come down more so they'll be more performant faster and like there's advantages and we've talked about those in the past but get some sort of external bus powered usbc drive plug it in when it asks you do you want to use this as a time machine backup say yes
and my general rule in terms of time machine for just the history of it is get one that's about two size two times the size of whatever your internal drive is and just let it back up your internal drive it's super easy and turn it on now you have at least one form of backup.
Yep. As long as Time Machine remains reliable.
Yeah. Mine, I just noticed, has a dent in it.
Oh, wow.
Still running. It's a spindle drive, still running with a dent in it. Gotta love it.
Hopefully not a dent in the platters.
Right.
I mean, Time Machine's been reliable for me for years. 10 years now. I don't know how long we've had it for. I started using it when it first came out. And I mean, back in the early days, it wasn't as reliable. But I think nowadays it's like.
They were corrupt. Have they changed the method by, do you know, Dave? Have they changed the method by which Time Machine?
Still uses hard links. But the file system has been updated. Yes. To, with the idea that Time Machine is going to be used.
Time Machine was a bolt-on to HFS Plus. and so and hard links were a bolt on to hfs plus they were literally stored in a text file like yeah i talked about i did like a backups session at macworld once and after the session somebody came up to me who it turns out was an apple engineer but like did not want that you know made public at all and they're like uh listen there's something you need to know about hfs plus and time machine. I was like, oh my gosh, holy crap.
Like, I wish I knew that before my presentation. They're like, well, I mean, yeah, but you can't say that in your presentation. Like, oh no, I could say it. I just am not going to attribute it to anyone. And people are going to ask me, how do you know this? And I'm just going to say, I know things. I'm Dave and I know things.
Yeah. That's what I do.
That's what I do. That's it. Yeah. And he was like, oh yeah, that's okay. Yeah. He's like, just don't say where it came from. So I I don't even remember who this person was. Like, I don't believe there's someone that I'm still in touch with. If they are, I have completely forgotten that it was you that gave me that information. It was in my memory is that this was a random person that came up and I had one interaction with them, which was great. So you also forget things.
You're Dave, you know things and you forget.
I forget the right things, Pete. That's right.
I don't. I forget the wrong things. All the time. I think we should go to Quick Tips. Yeah. I remember that. That's where we were.
Yeah. Karsten had an interesting... Quick tip for us about AirTags. Karsten is someone who travels quite a bit and winds up using different pieces of luggage depending on, you know, how long of a trip he's taking and that sort of thing. And his advice is twofold. Number one, unless you just want to spend a bunch of money on AirTags and put AirTags in every suitcase you own, which for some of us is totally fine. Some of us not so fine.
And it really depends on the number of suitcases you have. I suppose disposable income is part of this, but, you know, you hit Carsten's advice is take your AirTags and a label maker and number them. So you've got AirTag one, AirTag two, AirTag three, AirTag four. That way, when you are looking at the AirTag, you know exactly which one it is. And you don't have to, like, hold it up to a phone to identify it and do all that stuff.
Then in your phone name the air tags you know one dave's red away suitcase you know two dave's large purple suitcase whatever three dave's backpack you know whatever it's going to be and you can change those names in the find my app and of course they'll change kind of throughout the system if you're syncing with other people or whatever but uh but that way it's easy to move things around and you know all right air tag two
is in that air tag three is here air tag one is here and and it just makes it simpler to kind of bounce things around uh easily so yeah i like that tip thanks carsten good stuff hey dave hey adam something.
Quick to add to
That yeah um.
If you are ordering air tags from apple you can have them engraved for free and not only that they have numbers all the way 1 through 50 so you could just engrave that
That's even better oh i like that, yeah that's really smart love it oh man that's i love when quick tips have bonus quick tips yeah good uh bill has our next quick tip and we've been talking enough bill take it away, Hey guys, Bill from Menlo Park here. Here's a quick tip. If you're viewing a page in Safari and it's not coming up right, like you run a search and nothing shows up, but you know it's there, It's probably the content blockers that Safari has.
And I used to do this and curse and then copy the URL and paste it into Chrome or Edge or Firefox. But now I've noticed today that under the view menu, in the bottom half, where it has stop and reload page, it has an option that says reload without content blockers. Suddenly, the website I was looking at works. so that's it reload without content blockers it's a menu option under the it's a menu option under view in safari on the mac bye amazing i you know i use cool is that i use an ad blocker.
Some of the time and when it's ad block plus or something i can't remember the name of it off the top of my head uh i'll figure it out uh yeah i think it's adblock plus anyway i uh there is an option in the safari toolbar where i can click and say allow ads on this page right and that will work in about six hours but if i want it to allow ads on this page now the only way i can do it is either you know copy the url and move to chrome where i don't have an ad blocker installed or uh you know
go in and turn off the entire extension system-wide but the for whatever reason the ux of allow ads on this page or this site does not work immediately i had never realized until bill's tip came in that i could just go to view reload without content blockers and everything i think that's new maybe that could be wrong no yeah.
Nope i've
Used it for forever
Yeah really like years no it's been hidden in plain sight right there it has
Sorry I use one blocker is the ad blocker I use same.
One I use yeah yep
But I can't get it. Like if I tell it, allow on this page or this site, it is not an immediate thing for me. I don't know why, but anyway.
Yeah, having to go in and hit the settings and mess with all of that, which is what I'm on. Man.
Yeah.
Love it. That's a great setting. I'm glad he pointed it out. You know, it's hidden in plain sight this whole time.
I believe you, Adam, obviously, that it's been there forever. But Bill is the one who made me aware of it.
Oh, yeah. No, no, no. And I don't remember if it's always been accessed the same way, but I remember even just right-clicking on the URL bar, I think, and you can get it as an option.
Yeah.
How do they expect us to see it when it's right there in the menu? Come on.
Right-clicking on the URL bar.
I think it used to. Maybe that's how I used to use it.
Yeah. I'm not seeing it that way.
Yeah. So they changed it. Yeah. So now I think they have the little icon or whatever it is.
Yeah, right, right, right. Can I? Oh, no. If you right click on the reload, the little arrow in a circle. If you right click on that, you can choose reload without content blockers. Nice catch.
That's where I always access it from.
I wonder if you click on that with the option key held down, what happens? It's like class on the streams.
Nothing. Oh, well, the same thing that happens in the view menu. It does not change the reload without content blockers option, but it does the reload page. If you hold down the option key in either place, the view menu or the right click from the circle in an arrow thing changes from reload page to reload page from origin, which is can you articulate, Adam? And I know I'm putting you on the spot, what the difference between ReloadPage and ReloadPage from origin is?
I am just seeing this for the first time, but my guess would be... Oh, this is something to do with... Clickthrough? One of the security features that Apple has added recently, right? Where if you're using the, like... Don't they, like, route stuff through some of their servers?
For oh for iCloud private relay yeah.
Or one of those services i so
No i don't think it's that i think it predates that but i could be wrong my my use case of this let me put it that way is to force safari to reload all of the cached things like javascript and css from origin even if the cash, the local cash hasn't expired.
That was my first guess, yeah.
Yeah, that's the general consensus online. I'm looking at a Stack Overflow discussion about it, that it will bypass the cache. But maybe also what you're saying, like, it's possible both are true.
The developer documentation for the reload from origin function if you're using a web kit view says reloads the current web page and performs end-to-end revalidation of the content using cache validating conditionals if possible so yeah okay confirms you're not getting any cached stuff basically that
Makes sense yep all right you want to take us to karsten's second tip of the day, Pete?
I will. And this one's cool. I really like this. I'm going to start doing this. He says, in an episode, you spoke about password managers and a concern about if a company gets breached. Here's my super easy tip to never get caught. I use one password, not that that matters, but for any website that falls into the category of financial content, banks, or anything with personally identifiable information, health-related, et cetera, et cetera. He says, I save the password as I normally would.
However, on the website, I manually add six characters that only I know. Then, when I save the name of the website, I add an asterisk symbol to the end of the name and disable the 1Password autofill for that website. When I now select a website in 1Password containing an asterisk, the password will autofill and I only need to complete the last six characters to log in. If one password gets breached, the hackers still don't have the right password
because you can't hack what's not there. Brilliant.
I like this.
That is awesome.
I have, I have things to add. Adam, were you about to say something or no?
No, no, no. I'm just thinking through this. It's like this basically adding a pin after the password, right? You, you have a known pin that you use, but only, you know it. Yeah. Interesting.
So the, the only, well, not the only, a, a, an issue with this is if you, Your actual password, like the password and the PIN all inclusive, gets divulged somewhere and maybe two passwords get divulged somewhere. That PIN now is seen as being common to two of them. Someone might be able to deduce. I mean, they need to really be targeting you. Right. So I think Karsten's plan here is a solid one for the most part. the thing question.
When you get it
The thing i have always done or not always but i started doing maybe 10 years ago for those things that i just absolutely don't want to store in a password manager at least not in a way that someone else could use them is i will use um um. References to things that I know. So everything is different. So for example, and I'm trying to think of an example here, that's not the actual thing that I use. All right.
So, uh, I've talked about my kids on the show and my wife and you, you know, their names. So instead of putting, you know, uh, Lisa Lucas Schuyler, uh, you know, and then a number, or let's say our wedding anniversary, you know, whatever. Lisa Lucas, Skylar, 24. Instead, I would put a wife, son, daughter, anniversary in the password app. And now, of course, that's not difficult information to find out about me. This is just an example.
But there are things that I know that you don't know the reference at all. Like it would be impossible for you to know the reference, but it's enough to remind me. And then I can reverse it. I could do son, daughter, wife, and a birthday or something. You know, again, these are not the things that I'm using. And I could choose to do son with a capital S or son with a lowercase s. And now I know to type his name with the capital L or the lowercase L or initials or any of those things.
So it is a thing that tells me and only me what the password is and anybody else seeing that would be like i got nothing for you i have no idea what this reference is and so that's another way of doing it don't use your your spouse or your kids names because that's stuff that's easily discoverable about you but yeah things that might not be discoverable about you um would be the way to do that so well so.
The way i'm reading it though is he doesn't even put it in there so there's no way for them to find it so he just pushed an asterisk there to remind himself hey put your code put your own code
In right but if the password is breached i guess and this would work in in both cases if the password on the server not the password in one password oh right the passwords on the server is breached and he's using the same pin in every case now that's the weak point but that would be the same for mine right if you if you didn't know my kids names or my wife's name and and you know i wasn't someone who went on a podcast every week and and said
them routinely uh to the world yeah to the world yeah exactly um then you know you if you saw that you'd be like ah wait i understand his formula okay now i can hack everything that he's done so and that would be true about me boy.
That would be hard to do assuming right that the that the password is all hashed and how are you going to get the password right now okay you're laughing at me all right oh okay fair enough i have
Just this is why we don't use the same password everywhere man this.
Is why i've been schooled well
Fair enough passwords are i mean but they're not always stored hashed that's the thing we found yeah yeah.
It depends on the sites you go to and stuff like that and and here's here's the to dave's point who do you think is more likely to have less secure password policies or how they're storing things? Is that more likely that the reputable password manager...
Is gonna have that issue or is it more likely that like you're low well think of all the people that use a like local bank like or around here like since moving here a lot of the services that i log into like even the the hospital that i go to their site sucks and i can guarantee you that the it people that put together the password stuff there not to disparage them maybe they're really really great but it's much more likely that they're making a mistake or not as secure as one pass
right just just say oh for
Sure for absolute.
Certain i've seen the front end of their website and i can see like how the forums are set up like yeah i'm not they're probably not doing you know weapons grade military like no policies maybe they are like again i'm not trying to throw shade on anybody no
I i there's.
A lot of indicators like that this is probably not as secure fair enough that i
Need i need to be very careful about how much i speak here my family's probably if they're listening they're probably going oh no dave don't talk about this um but as someone who has built databases in my life and is someone who has built them quickly and it with the interest of getting them launched, I am very aware of the kinds of things that are overlooked in that process.
And there have been more than a few times in my life where I've taken a look at something that's been stood up very quickly, often by a very reputable, perhaps even government agency, whatever. And it's like, I guarantee you there's a hole here and there's always a hole. It's eventually plugged.
But eventually can take a very long time. And so, yeah, to Adam's point, you know, something, especially like you said, your local little, maybe your banks are different because there are regulations and there's like people that come and make sure your policies are there.
Just like their self-care regulations.
It's fair. For you hope.
Right. No, but like, you're right. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, but things get overlooked, and even when on the surface they pass all of the, yep, okay, you're doing all the right things, you're checking all the right boxes, yep, look two layers deep, and it's like, like you said, why is this all being stored in the clear in a text file? Well, we're going to get to that. We had to get it up and running. The we had to get it up and running is the bane of security's existence.
Convenience versus security. That's it.
Yeah. And convenience isn't just about you slash us, the users. It's about the people putting it together. They are making similar decisions about security versus their convenience, a.k.a. Speed in getting something launched.
Yeah, exactly. So I have an ad hoc quick tip then. It doesn't help with the healthcare side, but go freeze your credit accounts at the credit bureaus. It's free. Used to cost money to do, but no one, even if they have your name, your password, your social security number and all that stuff. In theory, if the financial institution is doing the right thing, no one can open credit in your name if your credit bureau accounts are frozen.
There's three of them, right? I want to make sure because I'll put links at TransUnion correct and Experian Experian Experian yep yeah I will find links because I have them before this episode is published I will put links in the show notes to where you can go to freeze those and if you want those links and.
Automatically delivered to your inbox so you don't have to remember to go and look at the website like oh yeah i gotta go back and look at the website don't worry about it go to macgeekup.com one time put in your email address once a week we will send you an email that has all the links that are in the episode and you've just got them you can archive the email you can do whatever you want of course we archive it too you know it's on the site macgeekup.com but this way you've got
them you can just go through and you can click you can learn about all the things we talk about and we promise we don't sell your name to people obviously i mean i know we need to say it but obviously if we were going to sell your name your name would have to be worth a lot a lot i mean everybody's got a price i don't know what ours is but it's really high because we kind of need to sleep at night and we're not the kind of people it's more than 50 It's way more than $50.
Yeah, it's way more than other people value your name. We value your privacy far higher than other people value access to you. So, yeah, it's not a thing.
And have your password manager up when you do go freeze your credit report, because they're going to give you pins that you need to unfreeze it, or even you can't open credit in your name.
I mean, no, that's not the case. Usually, because I just had to do it. You just create an account there. Which you would store in your password manager.
That's what I mean. Yeah, yeah. You need to be able to recall how to get into your own account there.
Yes.
Yeah. And then it's easy. Like when you go get a car, you go, okay, well, which one of these three do you use? And you only need to unfreeze the one that they use when they want to run a credit check.
Yeah, as long as they know which one they're using, which sometimes...
Some don't. They don't.
Yeah. Yep. Yep. So... All right. Well, we've done three quarters of an episode full of, well, I guess, backup and quick tips and other discussions. Shall we? Let's let's jump to some show business here. I want to address a couple of reviews in that I want to share them because they're fantastic and reviews help the show quite a bit.
So go to mattgeekup.com slash review and then that's where you can go and review the show and that really helps us I I'm looking for these reviews as I'm talking here and I can't find them to save my life oh I found it great oh I didn't move them over our first review comes from Simon Locke who says five stars owning anything Apple this show is a must updated March 2025 review. I keep updating this review because this show really deserves a place in your podcast player.
I've been a dedicated listener for more than 15 years, and it remains my absolute favorite podcast about Apple products. Whether you are a beginner or an expert, this show has something for everyone. The hosts do an incredible job of breaking down complex topics in a way that is easy to understand while stilping it, still stilping it? While still keeping it engaging for more advanced users. The production quality is always top notch with clear audio and a professional yet friendly atmosphere.
It's truly my go-to podcast whenever I want to learn something new or just enjoy a great discussion about Apple products and tech. If you're into Apple, this podcast is an absolute must. Thank you, Simon Locke. That means a lot. Thank you, thank you, thank you.
Yeah thank you
Yeah amazing and then uh and then we have one more from uh from rn doug, and oh i gotta type it in the right way because i'm sure i didn't put this one in the right place rn doug five stars the best apple related podcast out there i've been a listener for a number of years and this remains my favorite podcast the crew gives great tips and content without the pontification you see in other casts listen we adam you and i pontificated a little bit at the
end of last week's episode but you know did we well about ai and right wasn't it oh.
Yeah yeah yeah we did it
Uh listening feels more like hanging out talking tech with friends than listening to content mgg also has the best discord server out there you know what that's my review of this show i agree with r and doug we have the best discord server out there it is like the the one place on the internet where everybody it's not just civil discussion it's productive friendly full of camaraderie it's a big family of 2 000 people 2 500 people whatever it is now it's freaking amazing
and that y'all rock thank you for that yeah yeah utterly amazing so.
Yeah uh so those are the reviews that we have and then oh um we did talk about figuring out how to how to share the load on on thanking our premium listeners but we didn't do anything about that so i'm just going to be the one to uh to to thank those of you whose contributions came in in the last week so thanking uh the following for their 25 contributions that came in in the last week here doug from richmond wayne from waipahu randy from westport anthony from bournemouth steven from Linlithgow,
Sharon from Wesley Chapel, Fernando from somewhere, Michael from Omaha, Robbie from Hendersonville, Andrew from Honolulu, Bryn from Sun City, Ed from Torrance, Roger from Hove, Kirit from Bloomfield Hills, and Mark from New Palestine. Thank you for your $25 contributions. And $10 contributions thanks to, Stephen in Plainfield, John in Vienna, Joseph in Marietta, Barry in Des Plaines, Kevin in Brandon, Jonathan in Plainsboro, Paul in Lawrenceville, James in Amity Harbor, and John in Wake Forest.
You all rock. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. So outstanding. Is it time to move on to questions? Yep.
All right. Don't get caught.
What's that? No.
Questions or don't get caught?
We're moving to questions. David says I gotta find David's question for you David's question is very simple it's a short one he says, I get an error. Failed to eject. Credence, 11M6270, yadda, yadda, yadda. Secure PKI trust store assets, yadda, yadda, yadda. Because it is currently in use. What the heck does this mean, Adam?
This was very thick. And part of it is cryptics. So Credence is at the front. The last word is cryptics. So it's like, what the heck is Credence cryptics? What is going on here? And I did not know anything about this. But basically, this is something that apparently started showing up for some users in macOS 10, 15x Sequoia. So it seems to have started maybe around 0.1 or 0.2. It wasn't really clear from the research I did online.
But what these are, are parts of the file system disk images that normally you should never ever see.
They're related to some of the security features that apple has been adding they're specifically there to install encrypted data key storage for authentication uh to ensure security of sensitive data like passwords encryption keys certificates so they're like a portion of your drive that that apple has set aside for all this like security stuff normally they're not supposed to be visual visible to the users but something in some users systems when they upgraded to Sequoia
started causing them to appear. Now it's not really clear if it's like a bug on Apple's side or it's related to third party tools or software that were installed in the past. I'm going to guess it's related to, you know how we used to have those things that would let you like access parts of the file system. I can't remember, but there was one of them related to like S3 stuff and network storage things and stuff like that.
But there used to be third party tools you could add to that would like make things visible in your file system or maybe you did the thing where you could see uh windows formatted drives and read and write to them i think there were some tools for that you know these sorts of things yeah yeah so they kind of like add on bolt on like extensions or things into the file system that let it do more than it's so i don't know if it's related to that or what it's it's not really clear but
apparently some users are seeing these things and so that's what it is um they won't You can't, you're not supposed to see them mounted. So you can't normally eject them. So that's like what this message is, is like, it's trying to eject that and it can't because it's not allowed to and yada, yada, yada, right? So if this is happening to you, apparently there's some things that you can check. One would be check if you do have apps or utilities set up to run at login.
So, you know, go into your login items and see if there's something in there. So under system settings, general login items, see if there's anything in their utility or tool or something that might be related to your drives or storage or that sort of thing. You could also check for security extensions. So there's extensions specifically related to security. And I didn't know that these were there, but if you go into system settings, privacy and security extensions.
And then there's this thing called added extensions, you could see if there's anything in there, maybe related to that. So if you're seeing these things, apparently, you can see them not only in the finder, but also in disk utility. If you're having this problem, if you don't see them, nothing to worry about, you should never ever see them. So you're fine.
But you can also boot into safe mode and see if those volumes go away because if they do that's a good indication that it's some sort of third-party software that is likely the issue because when you boot into safe mode right none of that third-party stuff will load so if you don't see credence cryptics volumes after being in safe mode then you know you can start the hunt for what third-party thing do i have on here And so to boot into safe mode on an Apple Silicon Mac, you shut down the Mac,
you press and hold the power button on your Mac until the loading startup options appear. You select your boot volume and then you press and hold the shift key and then click continue to go into safe mode. I think on Intel Macs, it's literally just reboot with the shift key on and it'll go into. I don't know why it got. Oh, I think it got more complicated on Silicon Macs because of that, again, because of the encryption security stuff. Yeah, yeah.
Anyway, on Intel Mac, you can just hold down the shift key and boot. And then finally, just make sure on the latest version of macOS, so if it is a bug, hopefully newer versions of macOS 15 have resolved that.
Interesting. Creepin's cryptics. Rolls off the tongue in a fun little way.
I don't know why it's called that, or I couldn't find a lot of information about it, probably because it's security-related, and Apple probably doesn't want to publish a lot of information about it. so yeah
Interesting huh man what what is, interesting love it okay uh yeah i have nothing to add shall we move on we.
Shall we shall
Okay i think you're reading the next one adam, from joe from joe.
Yep i was just trying to get it pulled up here sorry i know problem because i had to read the credence cryptic stuff because yes yeah yeah
We didn't we didn't we didn't pace this the right way now that i'm thinking about it it's all good.
Joe says how do i stop windows from enlarging when i drag them in mac os 15 is there a way to turn off the capability in the new version of mac os it is really irritating and additional work to have to make windows that have an that have enlarged on my laptop screen when i attempt to move them so yeah this is like some new feature I didn't know this existed until right when we were doing the show. If you like drag it close to an edge or something like that, it just like auto resizes.
That's exactly right. Yeah. And it is annoying. There is a way, at least that I found, to disable it. If you go into system settings and then go to the desktop and dock pane, there is a Windows section there. And there are some options you can disable. And one of those options is drag Windows to screen edge to tile. And then also drag windows to menu bar to fill screen, turn those off.
And hopefully your Mac will stop doing that. So you don't even have to, you know, find some defaults right command. It's it's it's there in system settings. And then there's there's others that you might want to leave on. The one that I've left on is hold option while dragging to tile a window, which is kind of the way I would like it to be instead of, you know, dragging it to the edge. If I want it, I'll hold down the option key and then we're all on the same page.
That's the answer i i think i think so yep yep sweet.
Yeah uh
Pete are you reading the next one yeah let's do it yeah.
So uh he writes in i don't have i don't know who wrote in but he wrote in and he said hi dave adam and pilot pete i have an extension an extensive club i'm still being here I have an extensive collection of CDs and DVDs with some Blu-ray and would like to digitize it all. However, one is the quality I would get by repurchasing each item I already have on physical media better than what I would get if I ripped any of the aforementioned.
I realized that even at the highest quality, ripping a CD is still dependent on what the master quality is that they used when they created the CD or DVD in the first place. I also realize that it takes time to convert and then store, et cetera. But if the quality is better, I may not, I may opt to just repurchase. Now the final question, can you recommend an optical drive, which is fast, reliable, and USB-C? Thanks for all you do. So I'd want to get rid of degrading optical media.
Yep. And I'm sorry, I threw this one in there. This was Sassano, I think it's Sassano.
Sure.
So that's who this is from um and yeah so my answer was basically yes in my opinion any new digital version of something that you would buy from a service online i i buy almost exclusively exclusively from apple you know is going to be a 4k version or better and that's going to be generally or definitely better quality than anything you could rip from a dvd blu-ray you're going to get a little better um but apple's digital versions are excellent quality
in in my opinion at least in my experience so you know that's generally the route that i go but obviously that has the downside of the fact that it locks you into whatever platform you're purchasing from right and you're not going to be able to share trade resell transfer any of that stuff like you could if you actually had the physical media. So that's for sure a downside to, you know, kind of not doing it on your own. So you have to kind of make that choice, right?
And then as far as like actually, you know, what to get if you do want to like rip your own, I would say just about any name brand USB-C optical drive that you can find on Amazon that is mac os compatible should be fine at least in my experience i had one from lg that worked great it was you know usb bus powered it was really thin it did blu-ray dvd cd i mean that technology's been around for so long i haven't really run
into any issues the key is make sure you find one that's mac compatible because they're not all mac compatible most
Of them are now but but you're right like yeah yeah yeah yeah remember.
How expensive those things used to be hundreds of dollars yeah
I know yeah.
They're still not cheap in my opinion you're They're still going to spend around $100, I would think, on a quality one, which is not terrible. But, I mean, the technology is so old, like, who really uses it anymore? But that's exactly what happened is they don't sell as many, so the price is going to be a little bit high.
It's so old, they don't even bother to put it in the machines from Apple anymore.
Well, again, you can purchase or acquire a lot of high-quality copies online.
That's fair. One thing I will point out about Apple's is that they are still compressed, and especially the sound. Apple TV does not support uncompressed Atmos sound or anything, so all the stuff that you get. Now, whether your system and or your ears are able to discern a meaningful difference between compressed via Apple, which is compressed fairly well and not overly compressed or anything, whether you can tell the difference, that's up to you.
But if you're going to rip a Blu-ray using something like make MKV, then you can get the, you know, the raw thing. It's going to be massive. You know, it's going to be, you know, 60 gigs or something for a movie. But you can do it. And then you can have the completely DRM free, you know, super portable, well, portable from an encryption security standpoint, maybe portable, depending on how much storage you have, you know, because these things are huge.
But that that would be the way to do it and make MKV is the app. As far as I know, I don't I've I haven't found anything else, although it's been a little while since I've ripped a DVD. but that's the one that i always go to if you know of a better way uh feedback at macgeekgab.com.
Please that's a great idea feedback at macgeekgab.com
Tell us yeah that's what i would do feedback at macgeekgab.com let's uh dave wait yeah before we move on i have a question about the audio thing with apple tv so is at most not a good substitute
Atmos is amazing.
Well, most of their stuff's in Atmos, right? And Apple TVs, latest Apple TVs will do Atmos.
Correct. But they won't do uncompressed Atmos. So what Atmos is, so Atmos is not a format. It is a, really, it's a standardized way of adding metadata to the audio stream to describe where any given sound should appear. Audibly appear, to come from.
It it the old way of doing things is to say all right you know you've got let's say 5.1 sound right you know and so that's left right left center right rear left and right and then the point one is your subwoofer and you would say all right make this sound come out of the left speaker make this sound come out of the center speaker make this come out of the subwoofer and you could be discreet about that you know as the engineer mixing it with Atmos you don't mix for a specific system
you mix for the room and it's up to the system to interpret the metadata that says okay this sound should appear to or it sound like it's coming above you or sound like it's coming from behind you and then the system takes that and based on what its capabilities are interprets it in that particular environment so everybody regardless of what your system is you get whatever version of that experience you can recreate and and so at most
is awesome and and it can be a lot of fun but the underlying audio signal is the the thing that matters here And it often is a 7.1 signal that then is adapted if the receiver or the processor can do Atmos. If it can't, then you just get 7.1 and it's mixed for that and you're fine. Right. So uncompressed sound has more data than compressed sound. And again, Apple compresses it pretty well.
But, but if like, for example, if you have uncompressed Atmos, like, you know, Plex can't play that on, on an Apple TV because the Apple TV has no way to pass that through. Even though the device on the other end is like, yeah, give me the uncompressed thing. The Apple TV is like, no, no, we can only pass through compressed data. It's like, there's no reason for this. It's a software limitation, but that's so yes. I know that got way geekier than you probably.
No, no, that's what I wanted to know because obviously, you know, I was unaware of that. So I think other people might be unaware of that. So I appreciate the explanation.
Yeah, sure. Yeah, no, no, it's, I love this stuff. Uh, okay. Uh, I think Pete, you had a really cool, cool stuff found and I want to make sure we don't miss this. So let's, let's jump to cool stuff out and wrap up the show there. Oh, okay.
Well, uh, I, for those that are on the discord, I put some pictures in there that I recently got because I got this thing at CES. I saw it at CES and it's called Feather Snap. It has feathers on a bird and snap as in snapshots. This thing is a bird feeder with two sides to it. So you can put in two different types of bird feed to attract a wider variety of birds. And oh, by the way, they've got a hummingbird feeder coming out later this year.
But it does motion sensitivity and takes high definition photos and you can request a video of it as well and you can then slow slow mo the video and that sort of thing but i've got a house finch a cardinal a blue jay some amazing birds already right up close and watch a meeting and watch them you know shell the seeds and if you're into birds at all this is really cool and i'm not even that much into birds but i just find this absolutely fascinating and
the pictures are amazing and here's the cool thing if you get a bird and you don't know what it is it has links to ai right in the app on your phone to help you determine what kind of bird it is that you're seeing so amazing if you're at all into it yeah and right now uh you can get it uh we have a link in the show notes for amazon it's uh 169 instead of its regular 189 and like i say the hummingbird feeder is due out soon. Um, Which I totally have every intent of getting one of those as well,
because I love to watch hummingbirds. And I imagine those, I don't know.
And this one's solar powered, is that right?
Yeah. Oh, yeah. I missed that. Yeah, it's solar powered, so you never have to recharge the camera. It recharges itself on a daily basis.
So cool.
Yeah. Huh. And.
I love it. That's great.
Yeah. Yeah. So, and I actually put in a ticket for them, because I was having a hard time getting it to join my network, and I put in a ticket when I figured out what it was doing. It was me. I was forcing everything to go. We talked about it the other day, the different DNS. I was forcing everything to go to a different DNS, and it wanted to go to its own DNS and was fighting me on that. Once I let it go, it got its own DNS. It came right up and worked. But these are beautiful pictures.
Yeah, they really are.
Yeah. I've got a card. The one in the cardinal in there is just amazing. And he keeps coming back. So I've got some amazing video of him.
So. Yeah, I might have to get the hummingbird feeder one. I love taking pictures of our hummingbirds. Yeah.
Right.
All right.
Yeah. So yeah, Feather Snap is, that was a fun one. I'm really excited to get one of those feeders.
Cool. Cool.
Yeah.
Well, you've got the next one, right, Adam?
Oh, we're doing, uh.
Cool stuff found. It's okay. We're doing Rob.
I didn't know we were going forward. I thought we were wrapping up.
Oh.
But we got a little bit of time.
We got a little bit of time. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah.
Yeah. So this is from Rob. And Rob has a little AI tool for doing terminal. So he said, I stumbled on this and I knew you all would be interested.
Well, we are. this is a new command line utility powered by ai it's called warp.dev i'm just scratching the surface of it but it seems amazing it will help you with syntax context and help you with scripting etc so it's at warp w-a-r-p.dev we'll have the link in the show notes but yeah it looks like it allows you to you can basically just tell it like what you're wanting to do in the terminal And it will interpret that and then help give you the commands so you don't
have to remember things like, you know, how do I grab the name of a directory and copy it to my clipboard? That sort of thing.
Oh, man. I mean, this makes sense. I do this kind of thing with chat GPT open in one window in my terminal and another copy pasting back and forth. For me, it's like, all right, I want to convert the show. I need to use FFmpeg. Ffmpeg how do i use ffmpeg to do this and it's this back and forth kind of copy paste thing this right takes this out of the equation of course somebody created this oh.
Now you can just ask your terminal yeah i didn't i didn't look up what it works with i'm assuming it's going through something like a chat the different engines has most these tools do yeah i would assume like chat gpd or something like that but
Yeah it doesn't you're right it's not obvious privacy probably tells you what it's using maybe, LLMs telemetry settings privacy how warp works, warp a i uh are powered by large language models running in the background maybe it's their own i didn't really maybe.
It's their own
Yeah i don't know yeah yeah yeah there is a privacy link there i don't want to spend the time here trying to yeah it is there to get you that information wow that's pretty cool huh thanks rob good stuff yeah yeah i have uh one from tony that uh tony says uh well listening to another popular mac podcast you can tell us which one we like to promote other shows uh one of the co-hosts griped about the difficulty in identifying the active window on
their mac desktop confused for a second until i remembered a great little utility i found a long long time ago and have been using ever since it's an app called haze over And it dims inactive windows and makes the active window the brightest one. So now I never have trouble knowing which window is active. It's six bucks and it's in setup. But yeah.
Perfect.
Yeah. I need to mess with this and see if I like it. Like i i don't know how much i wind up looking at inactive windows and reading things from them you know without making them active but i can totally see the benefit to this um with current workflows or with some workflows rather yeah and you can set the degree of hazing over too which is handy huh yeah hazeover.com or if you have a setup subscription that's in setup i.
Love it confused with hazel.com
Right hazeover hazel there's a song in there somewhere i don't know, I have one more cool stuff found that I'll throw in and it's, you know, I test headphones. I test a lot of headphones and it's difficult for me to like come up with the reason to recommend something. The folks at OneMore have lots of different headphones and I just tested their, I'll call them their high end. They're called the Sonoflow, and it's one more, the number one M-O-R-E, Sonoflow Pro noise-canceling headphones.
These are over-the-ear headphones. They've got high-res Bluetooth audio, Bluetooth 5.4, 100 hours of playtime, great noise-canceling, really comfortable fit. They come in a nice case that packs down fairly flat to fit in your travel bag. I used them going back and forth to South by Southwest. They sound great. The noise canceling works fantastic on the flight. And they're $70. Like, that's the thing. They're 70 bucks. So it's like, okay, wait a minute. And you can wire them if you want to.
Like if you wanted to plug into the airplane thing or get completely lossless audio, you know, obviously the hardwire is the way to go.
So yeah 70 bucks on amazon right now so that to me that was the differentiator it's like wait a minute you know i have 300 headphones that these sound kind of the same and so yep yeah yep it's got a 40 millimeter driver in each ear like they they sound good if i have one complaint and i have this complaint about several uh headphones is that when in noise canceling mode. Sometimes the the sound isn't loud enough and I really don't like to listen loud.
I'm fairly tuned in to where my hearing needs to be and I'm not pushing 85 dB plus to my to my ears. But, yeah, they they were a little quiet. But I find that with a lot of over the ear headphones with noise canceling. It's it's certainly not limited to them. But everything was intelligible. I guess maybe the right way to say it is I was listening with them cranked and then everything was fine. But it was, you know, there wasn't any headroom, but I could still hear everything.
And I swear I'm really not terribly deaf. So but yeah, no, really for 70 bucks, man, I happily use them on both flights back and forth to South by and I'll use them this week back and forth to to Chicago for podcast movement. So yep good stuff we have anything else to add i guess that's it not.
Here i got nothing
I guess it's time the band there they are amazing they're.
There how did they know right on
Time i know well i think they're just playing the whole time and when i when i bring up the fader there they are they're just like magic yeah it's great love it, They're, yeah, they're professionals. You know, on Gig Gab, our catchphrase over there is always be performing. I think the band here, like, I think they took it to heart. Yeah, they're always performing. Because you can just, like, take it out and talk for a little bit, and then you just bring up the fader, and there they are.
Back to performing. 24-7, 365.
365. That's it.
Wow.
Yeah. Don't their fingers ever get tired?
I would imagine. it turns out I'm the drummer on that track and so yeah sometimes my fingers get tired I guess it's a whole like parallel universe multiverse kind of thing going on thanks for hanging out with us everybody thanks to, BZG Apps for doing our giveaway there's one day left of our March giveaway and yes there is an April giveaway coming which you will be able to check out on april 1st that is not a joke uh but yeah unite six they're giving away five copies of that
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Do I do three simple words I bet you know what they are but I'm going to tell you anyway
Don't get caught
I knew what they were Pete, Later.