¶ Mac Geek Gab 1106 for Wednesday, September 10th, 2025
It's time for Mac Geek Cab, and there is no listener quick tip this week, because right now what we're going to do is talk about our reactions to all of the things Apple announced, didn't announce, what we're buying, what we're not buying, our thoughts, your thoughts, all of that. Today on Mac Geekab 1106 for Wednesday, September 10th, National Anti-Junk Light Day. So maybe you, if you're watching this on YouTube or somewhere, maybe you should close your eyes and just listen. 2025.
Greetings, folks, and welcome to MacGeekGab, the show where we normally share your quick tips and cool stuff found and answer your questions. And we will get right back to that on Monday, the 15th. But for today, an atypically timed episode coming out, being recorded and coming out on a Wednesday, We will be, as I said, talking about your, our reactions to the keynote and the things Apple just announced during their, what was it called? The awe something event. I forget.
Awe dropping.
Awe dropping. That's it. I knew I had something somewhere there. Our sponsors for today include Coda.io slash MGG, where you can go to get six months of their team plan for startups for free. And fireflies.ai slash mgg, where you can go to get two months free of this cool little AI teammate that can like transcribe and come up with action items for all your meetings. We'll talk more about those in a little bit. For now, here in Durham, New Hampshire, I'm Dave Hamilton.
And here in South Dakota, I'm Adam Christensen.
And here also in New Hampshire, it's Pilot Pete. And I think still, gents, whether we want to or not, we may learn, you know, five new things that... You know, whether or not we want to learn them.
I hope to learn five new things. That is the goal. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
So. You're going to start off with our initial impressions, right, Dave?
Well, there's two things that we want to do. The first thing I want to do, and it's with a heavy heart that I say thank you to a dear friend and podcasting industry visionary, Todd Cochran, for everything he did, for being such a great friend, for being such a great leader of the company Blueberry, his company makes the PowerPress plug-in. We lost him on Monday very unexpectedly. I just saw him two weeks ago, and he was great. But I know you knew him as well.
I mean, I would say podcasting legend. I mean, really a pioneer. This industry honestly wouldn't be where it is without his presence in it. And so it's just a huge loss. Very, very sad news.
Yeah, really sad news. And thank you, Todd,
For all of it. The last thing is my heart goes out to everybody who knew him, his friends, his family.
Yeah, it's horrible. I would venture to guess. I mean, I used his product and wasn't even aware of it. Didn't have the honor or pleasure of knowing him or privilege thereof. But, man, almost everybody's using PowerPress.
And it's because, and Blueberry is still a very thriving and active company. I mean, obviously they are mourning Todd's loss as well, but there's a great team over there. Todd was very much a champion for the independent podcaster and the concept of independent podcasting. Almost to a fault except I would never fault him for doing that because like you said Adam the industry wouldn't be the same without him so yeah that's awesome We did this the last time we did a keynote reaction episode.
¶ What do we each think we’re ordering?
We ended by sharing what we were each going to order. And we're going to do that again today. But what we realized was in in doing that episode that our minds changed based on our discussion. So at least some of us, you know, so I want to go very quickly around the room as it is here and share what we think we are ordering. And then we'll do it again at the end with a little bookend and see if anyone's
minds have been changed by things that we sort of discover together here as we do this. So, Adam? Yeah. You want to start?
Nada. Nunca. Nothing. I'm willing to have my mind changed. Sure. But at this point, no, I'm all good with my Apple gear.
Okay. And remind us which iPhone.
I have an iPhone 16 Pro.
Yeah. Okay.
I have AirPods 2 Generation 2.
AirPods Pro Generation 2.
Generation 2. Sorry, yes. Okay. And, you know, I just bought a brand new M4 MacBook Pro. So. Yep.
Yep. Okay.
Pretty well said.
And you don't use an iPad regularly enough for that to matter, nor an Apple Watch?
I have a really old Apple Watch, but I probably don't use it enough. Sure. And we'll get into the details.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
When we talk about the details about the Apple Watches. But I have a Series 6 Apple Watch.
Okay.
All right.
Pete, what are you ordering? So, right away. Yeah. Quick gut reactions. Right away.
Look, I want the AirPods Pro 3. There's just no doubt about it. The problem is my AirPods Pro 2 are still going strong. I want to say two and a half years in. Yep. And they're amazing. So I can't quite justify those, although four times the noise cancellation. You know, like I was at the air show last weekend and, you know, looking at the noise thing, 110 decibels.
All right, well, we're going to talk.
Oh, yeah, yeah. I think you just got to stay on point here, Pete. Fair enough. It's the point is the reason I want them is that but the noise canceling and then I think, the iPhone air May be a Christmas gift because my wife is always complaining about her 12 camera not being nearly as nice as my 16 Pro and and it's not right, but this camera looks pretty amazing for, for such a small phone. Yep, and I, I can't justify a watch either. Well, I won, but my Ultra is great.
Good quality. Can't justify it yet. So probably just the air immediately for a Christmas gift.
Okay. All right. I too am very much leaning towards ordering the AirPods Pro 3. I have not yet. And I think the only reason I haven't is because I am traveling the day that everything will be delivered if you order on time. And I'm tempted to have those shipped to my hotel in Virginia because we're going down to Virginia to see some concerts that Friday, Saturday and Sunday night. We're going to see fish, of course. And so having them for the concerts might not be the worst idea.
So i but i haven't ordered as of wednesday morning here i have not ordered yet but we'll we'll have our conversation and then and then that's it as far as iphone i don't think i'm ordering a new iphone But let's ask me this question in, you know, about 45 minutes or so after we talk about everything else.
Right.
All right. Okay. So now that we've got our predictions of what we're each going to order locked in, let's talk about those new iPhones, shall we? Mm-hmm.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Before we dive in, I have to say one more thing. Yes. So another thing that could strongly influence what I end up doing is I am in Chicago, probably giving way too much information here, on the 19th, like directly across from the Apple Store.
Uh-huh.
Almost.
Yes.
Wander in. Yes.
Yeah, my issue with ordering remotely, or not ordering remotely, but having it delivered, obtaining it while I am not at home, is that I would pay tax on whatever I have delivered to my hotel in Virginia.
Oh, right.
Because it's not being delivered to New Hampshire where we don't pay sales tax. So don't worry, folks. We pay plenty in property taxes here. Yes, we do. To more than make up for it. It all balances out. It's just fine. But when we moved here from Connecticut to New Hampshire, the amount of taxes that I paid to my state didn't change. It was just which buckets it went into. So it's all fine. It's all good. All right. So new iPhones.
¶ New iPhones
I guess we start with just the base model 17.
Yeah.
Yeah. Yeah. Okay.
Nice phone.
Yeah. It is a nice phone. It is, I'm going to pull up the Apple, put up little grids of the thing. And so I'll put those on our, on the video. If you're watching on YouTube, although again, national anti-junk light day, at least it has a black background. So. To me, the big change here is that it comes, is the new display. It's always on and, of course, has ProMotion, which I think you need the ProMotion in order to have an always-on display. But that's crazy.
Yeah, finally.
Finally, yeah.
Apple's been behind on this, if we're being honest, and we always should be honest. Um you know like android phones have had uh 120 hertz hertz displays for a while so apple's kind of late to this party and i think it's about time so it's great yeah i agree though this is a huge update for that that and um you know the cameras uh going to a 48 megapixel
Yes the the right main camera the the main camera i'm trying to think if i have a screenshot of that while we're talking about it but yeah you're you're right yeah the main camera to 48 megapixels and then also the uh yeah i do have a a grid for this so i will bring that up uh briefly here but the uh yeah the the main camera going to 48 megapixels it's still got the two times telephoto uh but yeah i mean that that's a big upgrade for that camera for sure for
Sure that and also you got to throw in the front facing camera, right? Which is, I mean, I guess we should just mention now across the board, they all have this new front facing camera that's using a square sensor, which then gives them the ability to, you don't have to rotate your phone to get it into landscape. And they're using cool Apple intelligence.
If you're taking a selfie and other people get into the frame, it will automatically adjust and expand your aspect ratio to kind of fit everybody into the into the scene which is awesome yep yep
All right so let's let's compare these cameras um from from say the the base model iphone 16 to the base model iphone 17 uh so the 16 also had a 48 megapixel main camera and a 12 megapixel ultra wide what the 17 does is it updates that ultra wide camera to 48 megapixels that's the that's the big uh the big change there i think so um yeah yeah is that right but this is apple's apple's data is saying two different things what am i what am i missing here i'm looking at the the
screenshot from the um From the event, which talks about the telephoto, the 48-megapixel main camera, and then the 12-megapixel two-times telephoto camera, but when I look at the comparison... The on apple's website it says for the iphone 17 it's not listing the 12 megapixel camera so what am i missing oh because the ultra wide is considered a fusion camera now oh it's
Part of that same lens yeah it's a two lens.
Yes okay all right that i see and then yes okay Clever marketing. Clever marketing. Yes.
I didn't realize the 16 had a 48 megapixel. I thought it was still in the dark ages.
No, because I have the base model 16. Maybe not base model. I mean, I think I have 512 gigs of storage. But no, no, I don't have the Pro. That's what I'm saying is I have an iPhone 16, not Pro. And the cameras, it's been fantastic. Yeah. So, yeah.
That really does put more of the emphasis on that upgrade being on the display, in my opinion. I mean, the fusion camera thing's cool and all, but...
Yep. And the front-facing camera. Not getting more pixels. I think we need to not forget about that. I mean, I know you just mentioned it, but to me, that's a probably...
Like in addition to the display the front facing camera being square is huge and for me the idea of being able to take a selfie i know this is going to sound ridiculous uh so i'm just going to say it anyway uh when you're taking a group selfie with you know multiple people uh holding the camera holding the phone sideways and not putting your hand in front of the lens and being able to grab the button because you can't hit the the the shutter button on
screen because now that's covered by your hand like it's a whole thing doing doing this and trying to get it just right and not hitting the wrong button when you squeeze the trigger and remember everybody look at the green dot right like you know don't look at the middle of the thing otherwise your eyes are going to be shifted to the side like that whole thing goes away yeah when you can hold the phone like like straight up and down and just look at the phone and take a picture it it
sounds ridiculous but i we've all done it and i think we all understand so anyway that's my yes yeah yeah um
Absolutely. I just thought of something that's kind of, oh, another thing that got a little bit buried, but I think is very important to point out. And again, this is across all of the models, the base models. 256 storage is the bottom now.
Was that not the case with the 16?
128 was the 16. Okay.
All right.
And then, although the top, you're paying a grand per terabyte almost.
Well, you know. It's got to come out in the wash somewhere.
Apple's never charged a lot of money for memory before. I don't know why they're starting now. You know, I just, oh, wait, wrong company.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean, it was also the base with the 16 Pro, for the record.
Okay. All right. I believe you, obviously.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah.
I'm looking at Mac Tracker right now.
So the other thing that I found interesting about it is the nits. The Pro, 16 Pro was 2,000 nits peak brightness, And they've gone to 3,000 for the 17, which I think should be interesting. And I did some asking around on the AI just because I was curious, is that really 50% brighter? And, well, technically, yes, it is. It talks about how the human brain perceives it, that 2,000 to 3,000 nits is not... Perceived as 50% brighter. I was like, oh, okay.
And to put it this way, look, if you go from 100 to 200 nits, that's noticeable. If you go from 2000 to 2100, it's much less noticeable. So it's an algorithmic progression and perception.
Logrhythmic, not algorithmic.
That's what I meant. Yeah, I meant what I knew. I got you.
I got you.
Pick a word with a rhythm in it. And thank you for that. But yeah, I think 3000 is a lot because I think my 16 is pretty stinking bright even outdoors in the sun it does all right so that's yeah what you know.
What was the um the 16s knits do we have 2000 uh 16 16
Pro is 2000 16.
Pro is 2000 well so is the 16 yeah okay uh the base model 16 so the not pro 16 i should say yeah okay so so it it just the peak brightness goes up but i will say i when i'm outside in the summer with my 16 i get peak brightness for about 38 seconds and then the heat drops it down to like you know two nits and i don't get to read my screen anymore so i but they did say that things were better in sunlight with the iPhone's 17. So yeah.
All right.
But I think the always on for everyone, like you said, it should be table stakes, Adam, and now it is. So yeah, I think that's good.
Is it worth mentioning the Plus is now gone?
Well, and that the iPhone, yes, it is. And the iPhone 16 was 6.1 inch screen and the iPhone 17 is a 6.3 inch screen, right? And what was the plus prior to that?
6.7.
Okay. All right. So if you want 6.7, you got to, well, you got to ante up. So for the Pro, right? For the Pro Max, I guess. Yeah, yeah. That's 6.9, right? Yeah, okay.
Yeah, you got to go all the way to the Pro Max.
Yeah, okay. Yeah. All right. Well, since we're talking about the Pro and Pro Max, let's go there, and then let's come back to the phone you're going to get, Pete. so yeah uh
¶ iPhone Pro/Pro Max
I i beg to differ when he hears some things i well it's for his wife not for him yeah yeah yeah okay then maybe but even still maybe not i'm gonna make a case pete
To you yeah me you know maybe not i mean that the uh because i'll tell you i'm the pro and the pro max what's, attractive about that is what dave just talked about which is the heat it looks like they've done some serious engineering to do some heat dissipation.
It's liquid cooled they have a vapor chamber with with liquid in it yeah that's amazing it seems you don't
Have to drive down the road holding your phone up to the air conditioning vent anymore.
Well yeah yes but also it's anyone who has carried a five gallon bucket knows water is heavy yeah and that's interesting to me that they're choosing water to add water to the phone uh but but and i i have more to say about this too but 8x zoom but liquid cooled yeah well
That again another thing borrowed from the competitors that they've been doing that for a while. Probably more because they had to earlier than Apple. You know, Apple's chip technology, as we know, is very, very good and very, very efficient. But yeah, like Galaxy phones and some other phones have had vapor water-cooled chambers, some of the higher-end flagship phones. So yeah. Okay. It's the first time Apple's had to, I think, had to implement it.
Yep.
You know? So.
And that's...
This was a little bit forced. as well as it caused them to dump titanium for same reasons.
Right.
Yeah.
Right. Yeah, it's, I'm looking at my list here to see if there's anything else about the pros. Well, I mean, it's probably worth talking about the hump, I'm sorry, the plateau.
The plateau. Apple likes their geographic terms. The digital island.
Yes. Plateau. Yeah, we get islands on both sides of the iPhone now. Yeah, that's right.
Shout out to Linus Tech Tips. He pointed that out. I thought it was kind of funny.
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I don't know. I mean, it's, it is what it is. It's just Apple's thing, but yeah. Yeah. And this ceramic shield is on the back of everything too. So yeah. Okay. Yeah. Yep. And that's what the A19 Pro chip. I don't really have anything more to, I guess we can, we can.
I mean, again, the camera system, I mean, in that, the camera system totally updated. I'm pretty sure I need to go double-check now, but I think this is the first time everything's a 48-megapixel sensor, right?
I think you are correct.
I think you're right, yes.
Yes, it is. You're right. All three cameras, the Fusion ultrawide, the Fusion telephoto, and the Fusion main are listed as 48s,
Yes. And so with the fusion stuff, the telephoto now is up to a 200 millimeter lens equivalent. So I think it's like a 8X.
Okay. Yeah. Yes. It is an 8X.
I mean, it's not. It's not. I don't think it's 8X optical, though. Are we sure about that? I think it was like five. Yeah. Check the tech specs.
Oh, right. It's a little elegant lenses. They would have put that on the thing, but we can look at the tech specs.
It's eight times optical in my notes. Yeah. Max zoom, eight times optical. That's what I, that was my note.
I think that you end up with a lower pixel count image.
Optic, nope. It is optical zoom options on the tech specs for both the 17 Pro and 17 Pro Max go from 0.5 to 8X and optical zoom on the 17 goes from 0.5 to 2X. So it is 8X optical zoom.
That's crazy. Yeah. That is amazing.
Yeah. Yeah
Yeah 16 had five is that right
The 16 the 16 pro you want to say five yeah let's look i want
To say it's
You are you are correct it had five yep yep yep So, okay.
Go ahead. It's all done with mirrors, right? Isn't that how they did it in there?
It's all done with mirrors, Pete. It's all plastic.
No smoke, just mirrors. That's right.
Yeah, no smoke, just mirrors.
So, I mean, it's a nice camera upgrade. A lot of nice camera upgrades here. And, you know, it'll be interesting to see. I mean, jury's out on the whole Fusion thing. I mean, it sounds great. We'll see how it goes in practice. I mean, I would imagine, you know, that's them pulling in their AI stuff and doing computational things.
Well, see, I mean, based on the keynote, which was shot entirely on, I believe, the iPhone 17 Pro or Pro Max, that whole thing, I think it was very deliberate that all of that stuff was filmed at night.
Well, it was also, they showed a thing, when they were talking about things that were filmed on iPhone 17 Pro. And I mean, some of this stuff has a lot more tech that holds the iPhone 17 Pro. Sure, it's the iPhone 17 Pro's cameras, but the stabilization and all that stuff is quite advanced and far better than what you or I would do holding the camera.
Yeah, but I'm just commenting on the low light performance. Like, that keynote was gorgeous, you know, and I'm sure they've got extra lighting and all that fun stuff, right? Yeah, there's definitely extra equipment going on. Yeah, yeah. It looked like one of the richest, kind of most gorgeous keynotes I remember seeing in a while, more so than when they were just standing outside Apple Park. I think they were definitely in New York. I think they were going between different cities.
Yeah, so Miami, New York. Yeah, different Apple stores and stuff like that and different landmarks. And it just looked really nice. And it's probably also because of them bringing um like pro res right
Yes yes yep so yep yep uh right because that's right because there's new you're right pro res is now on the on the phone yeah yeah yeah yeah uh should is it time to talk about the iphone air is that yeah we're going next okay yep yep no number by the way talk
¶ iPhone Air (no number!)
Me out of it man.
Well i think it's going to have massive thermal problems
It's the same chip as
The pro yeah it's
An a19 pro yep and
It's titanium case and they made a specific thing that they had to change the they had to change the pro models to be aluminum because heat
And they put up vapor yeah exactly yeah
Like, how is that thing not going to get hot and just burn up and then start to throttle?
It's air. Air, Adam. It's in the name. Air. It's air-cooled.
And with its thinness, you know, you notice all they said when they brought up the,
At least in the keynote,
In terms of battery life, all day battery life. Yeah. They didn't give a number.
Well that's not the only thing they brought up i'm i'm looking to find the uh the i think i took a picture a screenshot of it to get the right details but they they talked about no i guess i didn't um they uh when they oh but
They brought the extra battery is that what you're.
Talking yeah when they put up the screenshot for all day battery life or not all day battery life sorry when they brought up the screenshot for 40 hours of video playback it was with the new apple mag safe battery yes
Attached which makes it as thick as you know a regular iphone and and hotter because it's now transferring that electric field.
Inefficiently by the way yeah i mean i know mag safe is more efficient than just standard chi and all that stuff but like a cable is way more efficient than that you're not losing heat uh so i yeah i i know i don't speak for everyone my my it's not just my preference or my opinion it's all of the feedback we get and all of the things that i see online prior to this announcement i i don't see a sizable subset of people clamoring for a thinner iphone if it were my personal preference i
would want the iphone mini smaller screen size right smaller form factor but i even that i'd want a little thicker with battery so where and this is truly a question this is i mean it's going to sound like a but where are all the people that want a thinner iphone i i don't know where they are if you are one of them, feedback at MacEcup.com, please, please, because I want to understand this.
It's a style thing. I mean, the thing is sexy as all. Oh, yeah.
Oh, yeah.
Like, I want one just because of how it looks. Oh, yeah. But there's too many trade-offs. That's the problem. So, I think it was, I was watching Marquez's video, and I think he brought up the good point that, you know, there's possibly a couple reasons, and the one that he, that, for this be existing. And I think the one that makes sense to me and resonates is Apple. And I've talked about this for years. Apple will often throw things out there to see what sticks. I call it their public R&D.
This was how we wound up with awesome today MacBook Airs. But you remember when the MacBook Air came out? It was sexy as heck. Nobody wanted it. It was underpowered. It did too much. It had barely, you know, not enough port. It was like, it had a lot of trade-offs, but it allowed them to iterate. And, you know, so I think this is purely like challenge to the engineers, figure out how you can do this with this technology.
We're going to throw it out there. We're probably not going to sell a lot of them. Some people will buy them just because the sex, you know, the sexiness factor. We'll figure out all the issues with it, like the thermal throttling, and what people don't like. And this will lead to future generations of phones that are thinner, but do have good, you know, like it's the engineering challenge of it. I think that, you know, often Apple will create these products for.
Yeah, because this is the, not the iPhone 17 Air. This is the iPhone Air. And we will potentially maybe in two years get an iPhone Air 2.
That's a really great point because I was one of those that bought the first MacBook Air because i i wanted a smaller form factor laptop it was great but it wasn't great like the thermals on that thing were like unfathomably awful right you know the fan ran all the time and even then it didn't really do all that well but now the macbook air is the computer for almost everyone right you know you almost smoking machine right exactly so uh it's a really good point adam So
To further push Pete away, this thing's, I mean, great price point at $9.99 starting, but you're trading off a lot of stuff and you could get The iPhone 17, cheaper, with more technology, better battery life, probably not going to overheat, like a lot of these things.
Yeah, fair enough. Because I'll tell you, I mean, the big thing, look, it is sexy because it's less than a quarter inch thick. I mean, that is cool.
There's no doubt about it. Would you use it, would you be like Adam and use it naked and unafraid, though?
Oh, absolutely. No. Again, this is Debbie's. If it's anybody's, it would be for Debbie. And I think you may have pushed me away just because I hadn't thought through this one yet, is the battery life. Damn it, I can't keep her to keep her phone charged with her regular iPhone.
You're going to have to get her the battery and then it's just as thick anyway. Right.
Yeah.
And you're giving up a camera lens and there's a lot you're giving up. I mean, you'll give up the Pro processor, I guess, but like i don't
Know that's gonna matter
Ostensibly its camera is the same as all that you know the other four all in one but you know that's what they tried to they well they you know they it's they marketed it as a four in one uh yeah you know it's it's all 48 megapixels ultra wide fusion it's it's the equivalent of four lenses i think is what they said That's.
What they said, but when you look at the specs here, you don't get macro photography on the air, which already tells me, okay, what have we given up here?
The other marketing claim that I predict right now is going to be thoroughly disproven once we start getting drop tests is that this is the most durable iPhone that they make.
Well, of course, they put ceramic on the front. Back um and then the one thing i noticed that on all the phones is that they put an anti-glare in in that ceramic so that's that's kind of nice that uh without making it a matte screen i think.
Yeah and they were they were very deliberate to point out it's an apple designed ceramic coating and it does this micro fusion with the other stuff and that's their claim to it being the most durable again like i mean i as you guys know i mean i use my iphone without anything and the glass on the 16 pro was the best strongest ever i still have scratches on it like sure you know this it's marketing fluff and with that thinness you you cannot tell me that
thing's not going to have some flex to it and if you drop that thing i mean maybe because it's lighter it's less prone to damage again I predict now it will be quickly disproven that that is stronger than other models of iPhone that had been produced.
Well, it's only $1,000, so buy a couple, throw one, and, you know.
It's too bad Bob Levitas is retired because he would be doing the, you know, throw it drop test and find out.
The drop test, yeah, from the second story.
I have, there's two
Bits Happy to be proven wrong.
Bits of real time. Yes, of course. Oh, always. I really want to know, like, who is it for? Feedback at MacGear.com. Matthew Dropko in our comments says maybe Otterbox will make a case that has a slot to put one of those lunchbox frozen gel blocks in it to keep it cool there you go so you know uh
Again it again it may be amazing like it might not have these issues but it's just interesting that they throw that a19 pro in there right and they keep the titanium yet with the pro models they're like oh the a19 pros you know so it gets warm so we need to move back to aluminum and we need to because they were trying to sell us on titanium for years yeah and the only reason i mean they obviously had to keep the titanium titanium or maybe not obviously but my assumption
is they had to keep the titanium because of the thinness otherwise it really would bend like if that thing was made out of aluminum oh
You get a foldable iphone just like just like pete's gonna say in monday's episode that we've already recorded yeah exactly Yes,
Coming up.
Coming up, that's right. So we do have a question from Scott who asks,
¶ Scott-Is it worth Upgrading from a 16 Pro to a 17 Pro?
is it, and I realize this is a personal thing and it's different for everybody, but I think it's a good question. Is it worth upgrading from a 16 Pro Max to the 17 Pro Max in your opinion? Pete, do you have a?
Yeah, no. Okay. I'm not doing it. The camera's amazing on my 16 Pro. I have no need to go anywhere yet. And that's the other thing I use it for besides phone calls, right? Yep. It's that camera.
Oh, that's right. This was the bit that changed in our discussion last year. Yes. Because you were going to get the Max because the Max had always had a notch up on the camera. And last year, the Pro and Pro Max had the same camera and the same is true now. So, but, but, but comparing the 16 pro to pro max to the 17 pro max, the camera there. Um, yeah, I mean, it's, it's better for sure.
Sure it is. But yeah, is it that much better?
Not you get eight X zoom. That would be, if that matters to you, uh, yeah, I mean, it might, then that would be certainly a thing. And and again i know i'm gonna get flack for this for dave the old guy talking about selfies but that center stage front camera man um that's
Cool yeah i'll give you that and there's no doubt.
Uh kiwi gram in our chat also asks in talking about this camera that's now square as the sensor instead of uh four by three with four by four yes but if you do four by three or three by four when and you have a square sensor, aren't you just ignoring some of the data? And the answer is of course, well, logically, yes, probably. I mean, the computational photography might be taking some of that data into account for lighting and things like that.
But in general, yes, but it is an 18 megapixel center stage front camera, whereas iPhone's 16 had a 12 megapixel true depth camera. So there's more data to ignore, so yeah. All right. We have other things to talk about. All of the new Apple OS 26 updates come out on Monday. As I just mentioned, we have already recorded Monday's episode for the 15th, 1107. Don't ask.
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¶ When Should I Upgrade to [x]OS 26?
out on Monday, September 15th. So iOS 26, Mac OS, iPad OS, watch OS, TV OS. Monday is the day they're all going to be released. I've been running the betas of, I think, all of these. Adam, I know people will find out during Monday's episode that you updated to the beta last week.
Uh yeah yeah public beta yeah the
Public beta yeah yeah i've been running dev betas on on all of these how is ios 26 running for you
It's fine i mean not other than the visual stuff right um some of which i like some of which i'm like a little bit like do i like this do i not i haven't formed a really solid opinion on it yet um trying to think if there's any new feature that i'm like oh yeah that's like game changer for me there really isn't it's it's it's a nice upgrade it's fine you know sure visually again i'm a little conflicted on i like some things some other things it's like oh that's
kind of weird or that's kind of hard to see or you know some of the translucency is a little bit off i'm hoping they're still work on tweaking some of that you know occasionally yep um i'm trying to think if there's i can't even so the fact that i can't name one feature that i was like oh blown away by i guess says a lot um i know one thing i don't like is they change the clock icon to white and i wish i could change it back to black but
Can you not can't you i
Didn't find a setting for it if so if somebody knows how to do it that
Would be great there's the whole icon editing thing you take a look at that because you might be able to tweak that
Adam okay cool yep uh
Any stability issues what
Would you know are
You are you a thumbs up for release day? Like, if people want to update on release day? If you're that kind of person.
My iPhone for iOS?
Yeah, iOS only, we're asking right now.
On iOS on iPhone, I've never been really afraid to update. Um... My iPad, now I would do it because I just don't use my iPad that much anymore. If you really, really rely on your iPad for things, then maybe you want to wait. And I'm the same way on the Mac. Like, I will probably update my Mac right away. I'm not really worried about it in this day and age. I'm doing a lot less, like, professional stuff on my Mac. It's more casual usage since I kind of stopped doing my podcast, I guess.
And the one thing I'll have to check is I'll have to just check and make sure there's no issues with my MOTU, my M4 audio interface with the new OS. So I'll double check that before I upgrade because I do need to record my other show debut film podcast that I do with my daughter. Well, and this one too. Yeah.
Fair.
Fair.
Yeah.
So I still have podcasts I have to worry about. So that's where I worry about Mac OS updates is just like, if you're relying on it for any kind of business or work, make sure all your stuff's going to, going to work. And you might just want to hold off in case there are any quirky issues. But if you're just a casual user and stuff like that, at this day and age, knock on wood, I have not had any major issues with any Apple updates in the past couple years.
It's all been a pretty smooth transition for the most part. I know that hasn't been your experience, but for me, that's been my experience.
How about you, Pete? You've been running the iOS and watchOS betas. Is that it?
I have. And so far, I like them. And so I violated my own advice that when the beta first became available, I went ahead and did that. And I've not had any problems. But I think there's no better advice than, especially if you rely on that machine, give it a week to 10 days. Let, you know, let the interwebs go wild with whatever, you know, is wrong with it so that you can't be accused of holding it wrong, as it were.
Yeah.
I think, yeah, I think waiting a week for a major operating system update so that, you know, and the other advice Adam gave is excellent. Make sure that whatever programs you rely on are, in fact, going to work well with, in this case, Tahoe. before you update your Mac. That's it. Simple and sage advice. Just give it a few days so that you aren't surprised.
And are you saying a few days on just macOS or a few days on iOS and watchOS 2?
Well, you know, it wouldn't hurt to do it on your iOS and watch either. For whatever machine you really rely on, I mean, like I say, I violated my own advice by upgrading to iOS right away. And, and, you know, that's one where you can't roll back very easily. Well, none of them are for that matter. Yep. So, so I probably wouldn't do that again if I thought about it. I just wasn't thinking about it when I did it. Right.
I've done it before. And I, I, it was, you know, a month and a half of, of pain before it finally started to kind of come around. So, yeah. Yep. I, so I've been running all of them. And I would say for iOS, watchOS, and tvOS – Even if you use your devices daily, I think release day is okay. Whatever day you install liquid glass on your watch and your iPhone, you're going to go through a sort of visual change process. You might have some change resistance.
We've talked that we shared the tip about going into accessibility and turning off the, I'll come up with it. It's the visual effects, but it's, you can, what is it? Visual display and text size, reduced transparency is the one that basically turns off a lot of the kind of the transparent part of liquid glass, which is the most glaring difference. So if you don't like that, turn that off, but give it some time. You might like it. You might not.
But I say for iOS, watchOS and tvOS, those are stable. Those are they work fine and go ahead and and and update on day one if you want.
Ipad os if you use your ipad casually yes fine update on day one otherwise i would wait a month for the 0.1 update or the you know some update to come out it is it's quirky man uh it like still i i have the the release on it as of the the ninth of the you know the announcement day presumably that's the release candidate and it's still a little quirky on my ipad 6 mini so you bear that in mind but if using it it's fine but i use my ipad casually if i was using it and relying on it
every day i'd probably be in a world of regret at this point um so that's my advice for mac os Uh, I, I think you can do it on release day. It has gotten way more stable in the developer betas have gotten way more stable in the last two weeks for me.
But what's also changed in the last two weeks is I've learned how to manage my third party menu bar items that there, There was some fundamental change to the way that all works and apps apps like bartender had to be completely reimagined uh and and he's been catching up with it all too of course as he's developing it right um but that's come around it's still a little different than what we've known for years if you run bartender and rely on it it's going to be a little different uh it's
yep um just in terms of responsiveness but it keeps getting better but uh iStat menus works great with the new menu bar the stats thing that we've mentioned on the show it the the freeware uh sort of iStat menus look alike if you will that and bartender and mac os 26 there's there ain't no love there so i had to switch back to iStat menus and then with the updates to bartender and the updates to mac os 26 like i finally feel like i don't i don't cringe when i open my
i've had it on my macbook uh air my m2 air so i but i i would you know release day is okay but bear in mind check out those third-party menu bar items uh and to your point adam your hardware i will not be updating the machine in the studio right away right ever i never ever never never ever so yeah
Because audio audio you know firmware and drivers and stuff can go south really
Really real fat oh and then you're in a world of hurt trying to roll back there ain't no rolling back so yeah yeah
Dave was it you saying that some some or most uh music uh concert you know professional musicians are you know on machines that are 10 15 years old and they never update that stuff because it's you know yeah it's it's.
A problem it's a tool Right. And it works. It works. Correct.
Don't fix it.
This is the same reason why when I, because I got my new monitors,
¶ There’s a reason studio and front of house engineers delay a LONG time before you update your macOS
right, and I had moved things around on my desk. When you have a piece of outboard audio equipment, you set it up, hopefully, one time, you get all the dials and knobs turned exactly where you want, and you never, ever touch it again. It's a similar thing, right? You just don't want to be changing things.
Why change this? It's not like here in the studio. I live a weird life, right? Because it's an audio system here that I have and primarily is used for that.
One of the primary uses is that it's being used to record a podcast for troubleshooting apple products or tech products and with a focus on apple products obviously this show and so like not having continuity when that first came out was like oh this kind of sucks not to have this right here on the machine that i'm recording this show on so that's where that's the line i balance otherwise i'd probably still be
on you know i don't know whatever it's a two year old operating system and happy about it
Something from the keynote that i always forget and and they did it in the videos and this is related to the operating system so i think that this is valid in continuity because you brought up continuity the copy paste gestures for going between devices. Did you catch that? No. They showed that where you, I think you swipe out with
¶ New copy/paste gestures with iOS 26 and iPadOS 26
like fingers like that and that's like copy from one device and then you can like paste it onto another device with a gesture.
Oh, I missed this gesture.
No, I gotta try this. Okay.
Yeah, I mean it'd have to be between an iOS device, obviously two iOS devices. So the only place you could really use it is iPhone and iPad, or I guess if you had two iPhones, you could do it.
Right, right.
I just don't use my iPad enough, but I was like, oh yeah, they have that cool gesture where it's like, I can't, I think you pinch in to kind of pick it up to copy the thing. And then you pinch out. I think it might be with three, at least three fingers.
Interesting. Wow. Okay. There's a quick tip for you folks. Yeah.
It looks really magical. I'll look up the exact gesture and get it. But yeah, it's like, oh yeah, they have that thing. I've never used that before. That's really cool.
All right. Let's talk AirPods, because both Pete and I said that we were definitely
¶ New AirPods Pro 3
going to buy new AirPods. And because those AirPods Pro 3 are, they seem pretty amazing. I know all three of us are huge fans of our AirPods Pro 2 for a variety of reasons.
And i know you and i adam use them as you know active earplugs when we go see live music and it it's amazing right you know so uh yep so let's let's talk about these so they look the same but apple says they won't fall out the same uh because they've got new tips on them and and they look the same but they're not actually the same the design has changed right different shape yeah different And I'm eager, they come with foam tips now, which will help with,
I think that's a big part of the better seal, which then gives you better, you know, the better noise cancellation.
Yep.
Are they actually foam? I was a little bit confused by how they said that, because it sounded like they were still the silicone ones. Foam infused or something like that. Yeah, foam infused or foam inside.
Okay.
Yeah. You might be right about this.
Yeah, yeah.
I don't know. It was a weird phrasing how they said it.
Yeah. All right.
But maybe they feel it.
No, you're right. They say all new ear tips fuse a thin layer of soft foam to the silicon shell to give you even better acoustic performance. Okay. You've been able to buy third-party tips essentially like this.
Yes, which I have.
Same. Right. So I'm curious to see how, you know, where the additional noise-canceling features are. I think there's, there's some of the microphones and all that stuff. I think there's a difference there, but I also think a big part of it is physical. I mean, noise canceling starts with isolation, right? And, and then you can build on that. And the AirPods four, which have no isolation doing a magical, a magical job of that.
So I'm sure there's more tech here that you, you can like, it starts with isolation, but you can also what you do is you record with the microphone i say this cavalierly like it's super easy uh you record with the microphone and then quickly quickly calculate uh an out of phase uh uh mirror image of that and send it to your ears so that you're essentially canceling out like that's active noise canceling so i'm sure they could do they are doing more of that but i think the isolation is a huge
part of it yep yep um that said better go yeah
Supposedly you know it sounds like they've rerouted the base in there there's more ports and they've rerouted the base to make it longer and somehow deeper so that sounds like it'll be an interesting audio experience It's more rich.
Yep.
Yeah. So that was cool. But then all the other tech they've put in there from starting your workouts and heart rate monitors.
I love the idea that the AirPods will do heart rate monitoring. So if you're not an Apple watch owner, but you want to track your workouts, there you go.
Yeah.
That's great.
And I'll tell you what. But actually, I like the idea, now that I think about it, of the silicone bud fitting that actually goes in your ear, being that and then having rubber or foam, I guess, behind that or in it. Because one of the things I've noticed with these aftermarket ones that I have, they are foam, which means they're also like a sponge. So I have had them when I've worked out with them, I've had them come back very wet and it's like, oh, that's nasty.
I got to set them out so they dry out. And so I like the idea that that's got a rubber coat on top of it so that it won't absorb. Uh that's yep but yeah that here's.
The thing i don't know yours are just foam they they don't have this silicone oh yeah that would make a difference for sure yeah it makes
It like a sponge but here's the other thing about these that and i know you've tried a dozen different earbuds bluetooth earbuds i have as well and nobody does it like the airpods pro they just don't from the touch controls to being able to answer and hang up and turn up the volume and turn down the volume and pause and play and just it no one no one's even close.
Jb i i would i would say that jbl has some offerings that are not just close but as good in many ways not as good in some better in some that jbl and and other manufacturers the whole idea where they have a case that that you can do you like case with with a screen and controls on it where you can adjust the volume and your active noise canceling and all that stuff on the case now they have that because they aren't in control center
on your iphone right yeah but but still like it's really nice to be able to look at the case and actually see a battery meter, you know, for your AirPods, for the thing, like, so, and control Bluetooth pairing from the case with, with a screen. So like they're, they're, these aren't just universally the best, but they are among the best and they are certainly for us iPhone users, they are the easiest to use.
And no one else is doing the active hearing aid, hearing protection, sorry, not hearing aid the active earplugs feature like apple is uh i i'm eager for other people to do that but no one's doing it yet so
Yeah yeah and they transition seamlessly between my laptop and my and my phone and my apple tv you know if i get up in the morning early and because i can't sleep and turn on the tv i don't bother anybody in the house right.
The only problem i have have with that is it sometimes too well because I come into the office listening to stuff on my iPhone and then connect to Zoom and immediately it goes right to my Mac and it's like, no, no, no, I was listening to that. And they do pop up the little, like on the dynamic ion, it pops up the little thing. Hey, we just moved it and there's a button to move it back. But I'm not fast enough to get to it. It's like, ah, just missed it.
I want to point out something that I misunderstood
¶ Note: Live Translation comes to all recent AirPods
is that in looking at the AirPods model comparison engine on Apple's website, so I have the new AirPods Pro 3, the AirPods Pro 2, and the AirPods 4 up, and looking through, they all run the H2 chip, They have different noise cancellation, as we've discussed. They all have the same conversation awareness. The AirPods Pro 3 is unique in that it has heart rate sensing during workouts. Live translation comes to all three of these models.
Yes. Which tells me that's in iOS, not on the AirPods.
Right?
Correct.
Correct. I just wanted to say that out loud because yesterday watching the keynote, i had uh easily forgotten that live translation was a a new you know ios airpods os feature as opposed to i was i was hook line and sinker like oh this is just a feature of the only the new ones ain't that ain't true so yeah there's yep yep there's
Gonna be a firmware update yeah um from what i read and um this is the this is probably the number one reason why i'm like oh oh, maybe I don't really need it. And not even that I'm ever probably going to ever use this feature. I thought it was just really cool. But it was like, oh, so I don't even need to upgrade to get that feature. I mean, the better noise cancellation would be the second most reason for me to upgrade.
But I think the noise cancellation on the ones I have is just fine for what I do. So I'll maybe get the next ones of these things. What is that, fourth generation or something like that? It just, once it was like, well, live translations come into mind. Oh, okay, cool.
Yep. Yeah.
And that'll be cool when both are wearing... Air pods pro right.
Yep so here you can just
Have the conversation.
Here is the the thing though uh in looking at the notes it's funny that it doesn't list air pods pro 3 and what i'm about to say but it is included obviously but apple's note verbatim reads live translation with air pods works on air pods 4 with active noise cancellation and air pods pro 2 and later okay with the latest firmware when paired with an apple intelligence enabled iphone running ios 26 and later so you need an iphone that can well if you had an iphone 15 and airpods pro 3 you you know
you're not you're not playing this game so uh you know the 15
Or the 14 when does ai come in.
A 15 pro is when ai comes in got it and i know this because last year i bought more iphones for my family than i ever have before because i had a 15 pro that went to my son and then uh that's right my daughter my wife and i all got iphone 16 base models which is probably part of why i bought base model because i had to buy three freaking iphone right so but you know here's the thing though i bought it because of the promise of apple intelligence i wanted the entire family to have access to it
it's obviously been kind of a sad trombone so far with with how that's gone this is the first time where it's like, wait, everybody in the family will get this feature and I don't have to spend another dime. So there I go.
Right. Just quick update that copy-paste gesture is pinch in with three fingers to copy, pinch out to paste. And I forgot, I mean, you could do this on device too, right? Right, right. I think it's even cooler when you kind of use the, along with continuity to like go between two devices. It's like, I just picked the thing up on this phone and I'm throwing it onto my iPad.
Yes, that's much cooler. Can you do it to, say, your wife's on, though? Because it's on the same...
I don't know that. I don't know. No, because continuity needs to be the same exact iCloud account.
So, yeah, okay. Yeah.
All right. We're burning time. I'm not saying we're running out of time, but we might be.
¶ New Apple Watches
I think we all have things that we need to do today. But still, let's talk about the Apple Watch is released. Yes. Yeah. Yeah. The array of Apple watches that have come out this series 11, the SE three and the ultra three Pete. Where do you want to start?
Uh, all of them, well, not the ultra does, the ultra already does. This is all day battery. Actually, it's like 48 hours now, I think, but, uh, 72 and low power mode is what I recall. But this is, I think the first real upgrade to the batteries since the original Apple watch, they all now claim up to 24 hours, which before it was just all day. Meaning like 16 to 18 hours is what you were getting out of it.
Um, I want to make sure we're saying that. right yeah you've got 24 hours on the series 11 42 hours on the ultra 3 the series 72
If you put it in low power mode.
Sure the set the series 10 had up to 18 hours so that that is you're right that's the difference between the 10 and the 11 what i'm curious about is the se3 the se3 is still just 18 hours so i just wanted to make sure that's
Right yeah good point i missed that.
Sorry, continue. Yeah, please.
Yeah, no, and I mean, here's the thing. I'd go for one of those in a heartbeat except my now, I think, three-year-old Ultra one. I still get, you know, 30 hours battery out of this thing. It's an amazing watch, and, you know, I can't justify a new Ultra yet. And I would only do the Ultra because I'm now so spoiled by having the Ultra that I have that the stuff that's in the Apple Watch Series 11 is amazing from hypertension monitoring and... The battery bump, and it's just amazing.
And the price, $399, is, I don't think, bad. And especially if you use your military first responder, educator, whatever other discount. These are really reasonable devices. And what's funny about that is this is a device that I thought I would never want, use, need. Oh, come on. Who's going to check messages on your wristwatch? Who's going to use it for working out? Yeah, yeah. And, oh, boy, a wearable has become one of the hottest things, right?
I am noticed there are a few things I want to make note of. One is that just like with our iPhones, always on for everyone applies to watches, too. The SE3 now gets the always on screen. So I love that.
Yeah. another thing where i was misled by the keynote is sleep score comes to not just the new crop of watches series 10 will get sleep score i'm not seeing even though i'm running the beta on my ultra 2 which will also get sleep score i'm not seeing it um but maybe maybe i'm just not looking on the right place i don't know i gotta look maybe they
Haven't rolled it out
Yet correct I don't know that we had heard about sleep score prior to now, so maybe this is one of those. They were probably hiding it. Yeah, they were hiding it. But I could be wrong. What about my Series 6,
Dave?
What about your Series 6? I can find out. Okay, the Series 6 gets sleep score. Let's go back to the Series 5. Does not get sleep score. Okay, so Series 6 and later get sleep score.
Another reason I don't have to upgrade. I don't get the sleep apnea notification. That was never part of mine.
I don't think.
Right. Yeah. Yeah. I think, I think you're right. This is the apnea stuff. And, and that's not like, um, that's more, the apnea stuff is it monitored. It started in series nine. Uh, it might've started in the original ultra. Would you know it's series nine is when it started. Um, the apnea stuff is more trend based. It's not last night. You might have experienced it. It's over the last month. you might have, you should talk to, you know, a medical professional or whatever. Yeah.
Yeah. Don't lose your medical. Tell your doc you've got sleep apnea.
Oh, is that right?
Yeah.
Yeah. You have to, you know, you have to have the CPAP machine with you if you have, if you're diagnosed with it in order to keep your medical.
In order to keep your flight medical. Well, that makes sense. I mean, yeah, sure. Okay. So it has to be managed. It's not just. Yes, that's correct. Got it. Okay.
But then certain countries wouldn't let you in during COVID.
Oh, yeah, for sure. Yeah. the thing the things we learn as as pete like sort of debriefs from all of this stuff it just comes out it's like oh sorry no it's i it's fascinating
Maybe i missed it did we already mention the satellite stuff on oh no we didn't watch ultra like that's that's that's the big thing in the big upgrade in my opinion in the watch ultra is it'll now do the satellite stuff So you can do the messages and get emergency help and all that stuff on the watch.
I thought it was interesting. They said you get the emergency SOS via satellite and you can send messages and all of that. If you have a cell carrier for your watch, if you don't, then all you get is emergency SOS via satellite, which I found very interesting. Yeah. Yeah. So.
Still, there's a book out there called Deep Survival. And several of the situations which darn near killed people would have just not been an issue with an Apple Watch Ultra 3 and satellite.
All right. Let's just quickly acknowledge what they have not yet talked about.
¶ Is there an October event brewing?
No Apple TV. I was kind of expecting that here since they've fallen off the refurb store for months. So no new Apple TV yet. But, I mean, we hear that one is coming. So is there an October event coming for that? What what else didn't they talk about that we are expecting them to talk about
Uh computers yep.
Yeah they never do at this
Event that's that's true
Ever the time where they talk about computers so that's like
That's true to be expected yep right yeah the apple tv i kind of expected for this event but um maybe maybe that's more the the you know the fall the truly the fall event as opposed to the September event.
Well, aren't there kind of some rumors that they, there's always been these rumors that Apple might do more of a home, like base kind of thing, right? Apple TV might morph into something more of like a home control center. I think there's some rumors that they might do some sort of slimmed down iPad that's just like a home surface for doing all your Apple HomeKit stuff.
Huh.
Right? So just a screen that you can mount on the wall and it has all your, it just basically has the home app running on it. It's your control center and your,
Yeah.
That sort of thing. So maybe there's bigger plans for that,
Like home kind of stuff. Because, I mean, another device, you know, we talked about wearables, the Apple TV. Remember that first generation was just, it was basically a media server and that was it. Oh, yeah. What they call it, his hobby.
It's changed for sure. Yeah. Yeah, you used to, you could do a lot more with the OG Apple TV than you can do with the current one. That's right. I mean, not feature wise, no, but yeah.
It'd be, yeah, it'd be really cool for Apple to have a whole separate event just around their home stuff. because I'm thinking there's a rumor of the new screen thing. There's a rumor of some sort of new control center that could be also an Apple TV plus additional stuff. They also didn't talk about HomePods. So they could start to move more into the home automation space with some new products and kind of make that a whole
other part of their business. I don't know if they're interested in doing it.
Yeah, right, right, right.
There have been these little rumors surrounding different ideas or products I know that are floating around out there.
Interesting. yeah yeah yeah all right well you know there we go uh okay well it it it is oh and also final cut camera 2.0 was was announced uh it it supports the uh the the pro res raw and all of that stuff so uh but that that app is out and it's free so if you're using final cut camera 2.0
¶ Buried…Final Cut Camera 2.0
Is out gen lock that's something i i'm assuming something really important to content creators and pro creators and stuff like i some kind of syncing thing so if you're shooting with multiple cameras it helps line everything back up here's automatically or something yeah
Final cut camera 2.0 also supports gen lock allowing creators to precisely sync iphone 17 pro and pro max with other recording devices to the same reference signal ensuring each frame is perfectly in sync this technique lets creatives achieve professional frame accurate edits without hours of manual frame by frame alignment the genlock api support is available to third parties and is already being used with the new black magic
design camera pro doc so that actually you know i i've always had this this thought of and and i know there are apps out there doing it but this might Make it easier if, you know, people use this API, you know, you, well, you go to a concert and everybody's filming different, you know, bits and pieces of it. As the band, though, you could film, you know, your two camera shot for your entire show and then have your audience members, your fans upload their little video snippets. Right.
And if there was this Genlock thing, you could easily far more easily than you can today incorporate all of those snippets into your, you know, here we did a video for this one song from our live show. The audio all comes from our soundboard, so it's great. We've got two fixed cameras that we did, and now all of y'all that did your little snippets, now we get lots of different points of view that we can mix together. If somebody knows of an app that currently does that well, I would love it.
But I feel like this Genlock thing might be more. What do you think, Adam? I saw you waving your arm.
Yeah, no. The reason I was saying that is there was another thing that we didn't talk about that was shown off, and that's the new iPhones. And I don't know if this is, again, exclusive to the new iPhones, the ability to record the FaceTime camera and the video camera at the same time.
Oh, that's true. Yes.
So is that, I now wonder if that's exclusive. I didn't do my research. So if anybody knows, feedback at MacGeekCab.com.
You heard him, feedback at MacGeekCab.com.
Yeah, I'm wondering. Dual Capture is what it's called, And on the feature list, I think dual capture is what they're calling it. And on the feature list, comparing the 17 Pro Max to the 16 Pro Max and the 16 Pro, it only shows on the 17 Pro Max. So there's the answer to that question. It just happened to be on my screen.
It seems weird. Like, what would be the technical limitation on a 16 Pro?
This feels intentionally software locked. Just like I thought the live translation and sleep score was. Those are not software locked out of this device, out of our old devices, I think this one is. Because wasn't somebody, wasn't there a third-party app that did this?
There probably is right now. We probably could go on the App Store and find something
That does this.
But maybe not at the highest quality. Yeah, Apple's pretty picky about it. So I think maybe it's something related to the image processor. They now have the new neural engines on a per core basis or whatever. Like there are some new technologies in the a 19 chips that maybe makes it easier to do this at a higher quality.
Every time Apple would want to require. Every time you say a 19, I want to sing Steely Dan, but a hat tip to Mike Rose for, for putting that idea in my head. All right. It's time. We need to go. But before we go, what are we actually each ordering?
¶ What are we each actually ordering?
We'll go in the same order, Adam.
Not a muka nothing no no not i mean again if i walk into the apple store in chicago who knows but i just i don't have uh money burning a hole in my pocket right now yeah
Yeah all right pete what are you actually ordering
Uh yeah probably a no on that air just for the battery alone yeah iphone air so that's changed But, yeah, because the iPhone 17 is cheaper with more tech and better cooling. Good point. Yeah, I've got to get, I don't have money burning the hole in my pocket, but the AirPods Pro are calling my name.
Still does, yep.
Yeah, got to do that. Yep.
The other thing on the iPhone, just real quick, Pete, you got good color choices, too.
Yeah, fair enough. That's a really good point. And that's important to my wife.
Yep, there you go. uh all right i uh i think for the moment anyway i have joined team adam i don't think i'm ordering anything i don't think i'm ordering airpods pro 3 because my airpods pro 2 with the right tips do the thing although almost certainly i will order airpods pro 3 between sometime before the end of the year like i'll like i'll have one of those moments where i'm just like i gotta get them or i might or i think my wife's airpods pro 2 are a little
bit wonky so maybe the i'll either get the pro 3 for her or which has been a pattern she's had that she had the pro 2 before i did so that might there there will be a set of airpods pro 3 ordered whether they're they go to me or my wife but you know something like that will happen uh but i don't think i'm ordering i'm I'm not ordering anything for release day, no.
Yeah, the problem with the AirPods Pro, is in Apple economics, they're quote-unquote affordable.
Right.
And I caveat that with it. This is Apple economics, people. They are not cheap. They're not, you know. I don't sneeze lightly at, what, they're $250? Is that right?
They're $250.
$250 is not a drop in the bucket.
No, but it is way less expensive than paying for custom-fit ear-passive earplugs. Yeah. Like, for the earplugs custom-fit alone, you'll probably pay about $200, and then you're going to pay somewhere between $50 and $100 more for the molds and, you know, the whole process. And they're not, as someone who has both, the custom fit passive earplugs are not as good as the AirPods Pro 2, in my opinion. So, like, when you do, depending on what you're going to use them for, the math can work out well.
But I already, I've just said it, I have both. I really don't need the new ones. But I know when I try the new ones, I'll say, oh, this is better. But it's already really good. for what i use it for the noise canceling isn't as important to me as it is for you pete so like i get why the pro 3 makes sense yeah yeah
Can you i think with apple care you can also get lost pod replacement coverage right yes you.
Lose one with apple care yes that's true yes yeah yeah yeah i've
Never lost one again knock on wood but yeah but i've done it now what i was saying, Dave, is my way of saying I could be in the same camp as you down the road. It's like, yeah, I'm just going to bite the bullet, give myself a Christmas present, and buy the new ones, but I don't have a burning need for them right now.
All right, so this is going to be an interesting... Assuming we all stay true to what we're saying here, and of course we reserve the right to change our minds, we just did it, or some of us did it over the last hour here. None of the three of us will have any iPhone 17 in our worlds, at least not right out of the gate. And that... I like that alone might make me decide, OK, I should get one of these things like, you know, so I don't know.
Well, just to be able to talk about it. Like, I mean, you know, we always joke that all of the things that we buy are business expenses. But but in that sense, it's true. Right. Like it is important at some level, sometimes for us to have practical experience with these things. So that that is weighing on me here. So, yeah, yeah. OK. what
They've made now is good quality it's so you know we don't need to upgrade yet.
That's the thing is just like we talked about what's the so you let us know what are you getting feedback
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Yeah.
Yeah, man. Have fun, everybody. Have a good day. And, uh... Yeah, um, don't get caught, eh? Hey, made out of battle.