Mac, I come to you with my hat in my hand. Oh, forgiveness maybe or okay. I feel like I have found common ground with someone who I thought was a movie villain, an all time terrible father, if you will, yeah, yeah, okay, And that is Peter McAllister. Every time that we have discussed home alone, how when Uncle Frank calls his son Kevin a little jerk, I've always said, hey, any father would step in there and say, hey, why don't you shove it up your
butt? But now I understand explain Sometimes kids are just little jerks. Yes, yeah, Well I feel like it depends who's coming from. Like if your close relative calls your kid a little jerk, I feel like you gotta can't get upset about it. They're probably being a little jerk, you know. Granted, don't get me wrong the way that Uncle Frank says it a little much, total asshole. Peter McCall not a great dad. He's got,
first of all, too many kids. Well that's also I'm not gonna forgive him for you know, leaving his kid twice, you know, forgetting about his kid twice, fool me once, fool me twice. All right, But hey, I apologize. You can apologize, but we still agree that he sucks. He does. But also that one thing though, Like I I feel like when I watch Home Alone this year, I'm gonna side with him, to be on his side, I get it. Yeah,
Like Kevin's a real piece of shit. One good three? Yeah, job three, King of Queen Marl Street entertain I'm good a man, and we are the Mac and Goo program. We bring you sky high friendship. Oh sore in friendship. That's good too. I like that one. Uh yeah, Today we are bringing you a trio of friendship. We unfortunately don't have a third one here to complete our triumvit, but a duel will be good. I just reached over to pick up a puppet that I don't have them,
Like, do I have a puppet in here? I can make our third person, you know, if anyone would have a puppet within arms. That's what I just thought you. I was like, yeah, I might have a puppet in here. Today we are discussing the Marvels. Yeah, of course, the latest MCU movie, the forty second entry into the MCU thirty third movie. Goo. May I read my pre written statement, what do you got here? Goo? More? Like the Mehvilles. I don't. I don't care for that attitude. Yeah, get ready for a whole
bunch of that. Would you have a bad experience in the theater? Yeah, because of what I watched? Oh wow? Really kind of thanks? Goodn't disagree more? Good? Disagree more. Actually, I don't think there's much wrong with it. I think it's capped going in. I don't have many complaints about this man, Look right. I enjoyed the ride. They took a couple of swings that I appreciated but also did not find very funny.
Yeah, you're just a real sour puss. This's all the callister things been in your head, probably all now that me and Peter mccallis are the same thing. That's what it is, real fucking mcaics. I hate fun things. Christ all right. The Marvels gooz a PG thirteen action adventure in fantasy with a runtime of one hundred and five minutes, but really it was probably more like ninety five if to take out the credits in one and the
flashbacks. If you take off the flashbacks, it's like an hour. Like they had to So I understand why, because they assume that most people have not seen Miss Marvel. And then they also said, it's been a long time since Carol Danvers has been on the screen. We need to kind of fill in those blanks. And maybe you all saw Division Wan Division. So a lot of flashbacks. Yeah, well not a lot. There was like maybe two minutes more than the average, maybe to the minutes little, but
they needed that for the simpletons who have not seen those properties. So you're right, it was a bit distracting, but it made sense as to why they did it. Goo, this is a sorry I already already said. It was PG. Thirteen on Rodney T's gou sixty two percent from the critics, eighty four percent from the audience. Yeah, I don't care about Rodny
T. So you're you're talking to the rock person. Yeah. Comparatively, the First Captain Marvel from twenty nineteen seventy nine percent from the critics, forty five percent from the audience. Throw Away the forty that got review bombed. Yeah, stunning to me that the critics like that movie more than this, Although if you think about it, that's mostly self contained origin story, so they didn't need to know other stuff. This movie you needed to have seen
at least two other things. So the critics are just real curmudgeons when it comes to that shared universes. They hate that show. Well, I would just say like, and not to jump too far ahead. Here we are just in the first thirty seconds of our podcast, when did I hit record? But besides Kamala Khan, not much else here for me? Really yeah, yeah, all right, McAllister. I was gonna say, gou the thing that throws me off here is sixty two percent Miss Marvel. The show
gu ninety eight percent on Rotten Tomatoes, eighty percent from the audience. Because that character rules. That character is great. I love that character. She dominates a lot of this movie. So this just felt like an extended episode of the show with more stakes, of course, but this felt a lot like that series. Felt like tonally, I would say that anything that is said by any other character in this movie really bad dialogue. Anything that's not
her or her family, terrible dialogue. Yeah, I don't agree with at all. I didn't have an issue with the dialogue's because you wrote the movie goo on Metacritic, which obviously you put your review in a fifty a fifty on Metacritic. If I'm not mistaken. That is the lowest Metacritic score in the MCU, now playing Metacritic every episode because I forget, let's have flashbacks. This is where the critics actually give it a score, and they average
the score. Oh fifty good. There is a number of movies a lot worse than this in the MCU. Fifty is insane, insane. It makes no fucking sense to me. And again, for comparison, what this movie feels most like is a combo of the first Captain Marvel and the Miss Marvel Show those out of sixty four Captain Marvel at a seventy eight for Miss Marvel, I get it. Yeah, I don't at all. It's it's it's to like Captain Marvel, to like Miss Marvel and to not like this.
It doesn't make sense. You'll have to explain that. If that's the case. Good. This movie is written by Nia DaCosta. You would know her from Candy Man Uh, the one from a couple of years ago, Megan McDonald. She was a writer on WandaVision and Alyssa Karasick. She was a writer on Loki Season one. This is directed by Nia DaCosta. She also directed Candy Man Goo synopsis and Uh, by the way, I had no issue with the direction nor the writing. I thought they were all perfectly fine.
Kevin Figy did a great job on both. No. Three writers in here come on. Maybe Carol Danvers gets her powers entangled with those of Kamala Khan and Monica Rambo, forcing them to work together to save the universe. This movie stars Brie Larson as Carol Danvers, Tayana Parris is Monica Rambo, Aman Vallani is Kamala Khan, Samuel L. Jackson is Nick Fury, and Zahwei Ashton as dar Ben. She's the VILLAINKI go, uh is this taking place? This is after Secret Invasion? Correct that? I don't know that.
I'm not sure. I'm assuming it is right. It may It may be because I feel like Nick Fury was a little too laid back with what just happened. Oh no, he like the end of Secret Invasion, he's like all set, you know, he's over the hill. He just wants to kind of relax, and he's very relaxed on this. He's all two relaxed. He's in the caf birds. He should have died a million times. He's getting nothing to lose. At this point, I'm gonna write down
my note in spoilers, I don't want to say it. Here some other characters and here they played a part. Gary Lewis is Emperor Droje Drogue. I don't know how to say it. He was the scroll leader on that scull planet that we visit. Also, what I really liked about this and we really only have gotten this in Infinity War Endgame in the Guardians movies, jumping around the galaxy. That's always fun to me. I enjoy that.
Parks you, June, I probably butchered that as Prince jan Zenobia Shroff as Muniba Khan that's Kamala's mother, Mohar Kapor as Yusuf Khan that's the father, Cigar Shake Shike as a Meer Khan, he's the brother. All three of phenomenal, and they were phenomenal from the show. All the cons are great. It's she's one of the best characters that wasn't in like the original equation from the last five years. She's one of the best things. Then, I also want to say that she is the exact same off the camera,
and it's fucking amazing. Yeah, I really want to see her and Peter Parker interact and I hope that happens pretty soon. The other three here, we got Leila Farzad. She was one of the Saber astronauts that you see at the beginning, as well as Abraham Papula. He's the three hundred year old named dog Dog Is he an as guardian? He had some as guardian beard type stuff. Dred years old he may have been an as guardian. And then Daniel Ings is Tyrone. His name is just ty Rone. That
was dar Ben's like number one in command, the right hand man. Uh. My main gripe about this movie goo and it's really honestly, the first act is clunky. But outside that, my only major grip about this movie is if you're gonna tell me that the Bengal that she finds on that fucking moon or planet whatever, and because she finds that opens up these shitty riffs that causes an entanglement because it activates the other Bengal. Why is she not
entangled with our three heroes. I'm also curious who hid that second Bengal that's very, very far from the first one. Yeah, I think that was the point to keep them separate. You didn't want to one person to get a hold of them. I think that's it. It's just kind of like Infinity Stone. Well it's still happened now. Well, yeah, it's just like it did with Infinity Stones. I don't see you complained about that. I never complained about anything. I'm not even complaining about this. I'm just
asking questions. I'm just I don't quite understand why our three marvels swapped and dar Ben doesn't swap with them. Now. I think they sort of almost intentionally show you her not using the Bengal while they're using powers to maybe say that's why. But it's it's hard to wrap my mind around that. That that definitely bothered me and bothered me. No, but she's if she's absorbing powers while someone else is using power, that is using a power, absorbing
other people's powers so that the Bengals absorbing it. I know, but that is really that's using a power, though she doesn't know because she doesn't really have a power. You have to remember Kamala has mutated genees. She's a mutant. She has powers other than the Bengal, and you see that when the Mengel comes off, she still has power. But let me ask you a question. If a sponge is just sopping up water, isn't it working? Isn't it being used? The Bengal is sopping up power. Therefore it
is being used. I know. What I'm saying is the clarification may very well be that Darben doesn't have any powers and that's why she's just utilizing the Bengal. I'm saying, that's that's possible. So you're just bother on question. You're answering your own question. Then I'm just trying to figure out what what I'm playing Devil's advocate here. But I was bothered by that from the jump, because that happens. Do you even't need me here? Can you
just talk to yourself? Then? Cool? I had a feeling that you might not not like this, and I don't know if it hit for me, but I think it fits the goofy tone of the movie. M hm, they land on Aladna, this planet that in the comics, I think they speak in rhyme. In this they had them sing so sort of whatever one and the same. It was goofy for sure. Look everything with this and the Flurkin I like the idea of but when it happened. I would just roll my eyes and be like, this is kind of stupid, this
is not great. Yeah, but coot. A lot of shit like that happens in the three Guardians movies, and I've never heard you call it stupid. I've called a lot of stuff in the second movie stupid. What are you talking about? And then you're like, you can't not the second one. Don't you have a major You have a one major gripe with the second movie. You haven't called a lot of shit stupid. I've called some stuff in the second one stupid. Yeah, I have go check the receipts.
Point B. There's no audio for it. There's a lot of stuff like that in the Guardians movies, and it seems well, okay. Let me also say this is that with the Guardians movies, you are dealing with goofy your characters. You are dealing with a goofy your leading character in Peter Quill. With this one, although Kamala is kind of a goofy character, it still has to do with Carol Danvers story, so it feels out of place
with her. Oh I don't agree, because I almost feel like the audience is viewing the story through Kamala, and so when you look at it like that, it makes a lot of sense because she has this like young girlish charm and this like happy to be their type thing, And that's what a lot of the movie felt like, and it felt it felt more like a Kamala movie than anything, even though, Yeah, but I would rather have Monica are there goofy silly Kamala in uh more serious situations because the other two
characters are so serious. The Crack three cracks a little bit, but Monica Rambeau doesn't. She's She's pretty serious throughout, but you sort of understand why she's been through a lot of fucking shit. Nah. I just felt like this felt like an extension of the show Miss Marvel, which I really enjoyed and admittedly probably liked more than most. And I don't know how like for you, I don't understand how because you also really like like that show and
not really like this movie I did. I really like her, but outside of her, I would fail the movie. I think the rest of the movie sucks. Yeah, I don't agree whatsoever. Okay, I'm really happy to hear that from you. I'm I'm happy that you enjoyed your experience. But like I, so, did you like the first Captain Marvel movie? Yeah? So you like that more than this? Yes? Oh my god, yes, I liked that one way more than this. This is better.
Definitely this. This Field like just like a zombiefied version of what we had there. And like I said, the dialogue in this was terrible and the lines were not delivered well and it's this was a real hard sit for me. I enjoy this now, Listen. I didn't love this movie, but this movie was a lot of fun for me. I enjoyed it. I giggled. I ate some popcorn. I had a heck of a time. I had some podcorn. What the hell happened to you? I ate
popcorn. When I check that receipt bad popcorn. I guess that was good popcorn. Maybe maybe you folks on the popcorn. I ate it really quick and then I had no more. So I almost finished at large this time. Oh, I only got a small because I didn't want to have too much for my tummy. Chuckfield, Yeah, I want to do the fun factor stuff. Sure, Mac, Let's get to the octagon. First up is fun Factor, and I do First off, Kamalaka is fun. And then also I liked and I wish they did more of this is them having
difficulties swapping off with the powers. They did it a decent amount, but just do it more. Oh yeah, see, but I feel like that's the messiest part of the movie, and I think they did it just enough because the swipt sweat messiness with the story as well at the beginning, and that's where I felt like was the weakest part of the movie is the first act. So I was fine with the amount that they did it, and you got a good enough montage to show them not mastering it but figuring it
out somewhat, so I was I was happy with that. Goote, because Kamala is in the whole movie. I thought the whole movie was fun. I had fun the whole run time. I actually liked the first act more than the more than the third act. I hated the third act. Really, Yeah, that's insane. It was. It was so cookie cutter and bland, and the villain the villains acting clearly the worst of the three acts. I'd argue that none of the three are that great, but the first
one at least gives you a ton of Kamala and her family. Kamala is in the whole movie. Our family's in the whole movie, but it's more No, it's not it. It was spaced out. It was fucking good for that. Yeah, I know the movies in Space. I get it, Mac. I had fun in Space, and you clearly didn't. Satisfactor. There was the exact end of the movie and the end credits that, even though I knew one of them was coming, pretty satisfied by it.
The end of the movie, which wasn't quite like a mirror post credit, that was pretty satisfying. We had an idea that was gonna happen, but the way they do it, because it's a Kamala thing, I think was awesome. And then obviously the mid credit here, which you and I were well aware of for a while. I'm sure a lot of folks at home weren't. But that's pretty cool. Even though I hate the person playing the character that's going opens up pandoras ing the character, let's just say that.
Yeah. Yeah, But going into this movie, I knew it was gonna lack some sort of satisfy factor because, like I thought, like the best version of this movie might be thirty six hot Dogs, and I knew it was gonna be missing that like punch that a lot of the Marvel movies have, But to me it felt like satisfactor wise one of the ant Man movies. It was you knew you were capped going in, but you were hoping to enjoy the ride. Bor amed or were you bored during the movie?
Really anything, because they don't think they drove it home or they tried to drive it home, and they didn't do it well. But the stuff with Monica and U and with Captain America not Captain America, Captain Marvel having to do with her leaving or her mom, Like, I don't think that was done very well. I wonder it did feel a little rush, but also
they got shit to do, so I get that. I wonder if there was a couple of scenes like cut between Monica and Carol expanding upon that emotional connection because it is legitimate, and obviously Monica is still dealing with a lot of PTSD from being blipped, and while she was blipped, her mother dies from cancer. So that's the whole thing that we haven't explored a ton yet. WandaVision gets into it a little bit they get into it a little bit
here, but that's a major thing. And I also think that's why when we get to the end of the movie she does what she does. But I felt like this movie hit It never quite hit a home run, but there was a ton of singles, a ton of doubles. It hit the right notes throughout. I wasn't bored like at all Halloween. Will this movie wane over time and I might forget a lot of this. It's gonna be
hard to wange just because it's such a quick watch. Now, I'm not chipper to go rewatch it, but I don't have any ill will towards a rewatch, and I'm interested to see. So the Bengals are a big thing, and they've been setting them up along with the Ten Rings going forward, and that's gonna mean a lot, So there might be something to come back to this movie. Ah Quator, Is this movie better than twenty seventeen's Aquaman? That was a noise of me being like, I don't know, it's
better by a lot. I don't think it is buy a lot. I don't think it is pants tensity, excite, bike mania? What got you going in this flick? The end of it. I really liked that last scene. I really like the power set of Monica Rambau, And part of it is because I don't fully understand it, and I just like that she can sort of do Oh she can do that too, Yeah, And I'm like, all right, whatever, It's both a good and bad like it leads to some fun stuff and they're able to use it to excuse away things.
But I love her power set, so anytime like she did stuff, I thought that was really cool. And of course, you know, Kamala is just such a great character that I have fun watching her. I will say this too, is that much like Superman. I know that you're a sup boy, but much like Superman, Captain Marvel's just kind of boring with her power set where she can just kind of do anything. I agree. That's why I'm stunned you would say the first movie is better than this one
because I felt, well, she barely had the powers. It was her learning who she was. Sure. Yeah, fall down seven times, Get up eight and I enjoyed that movie. I just thought this was clearly better. Max credit Union, Who would you like to give credit to Kamala Khan? The character is great. Saves the Malakan. Yeah, and what they may be setting up going forward. I hope they lean heavily on her. Her and Tom Holland as Spider Man. I think are the two lynchpins going
forward hopefully. And having said that, Tom might only have Tom sorry, I know him very well. I might only have one movie left. Yeah, hopefully not. But maybe for those of you tardy to the Mac and Goo party, we rate everything on a forty hot dog basis. Mac, since you love this movie, I'll let you go first. I didn't love this movie. Again I go I went in knowing I wasn't gonna love the
movie, but I really enjoyed my experience. Gu I love Kamala. Though that said, I love Kamala. I really liked that this movie skewed towards goofiness because she's the best character of the three. Totally, it felt a lot more like her show than it did the Captain Marvel movie or Wanda Vision. Also, like we've talked about her family's hysterical and they didn't use them too much, to use them an appropriate amount. I thought it was a
seamless transition for them from the Disney Plus side onto the big screen. I also thought Monica was very good now one note, but she was very good at sort of being that emotional center of the three, So it worked for me. I always liked Brie Larche and everything she does. I have no complaints about her. I thought there was really good chemistry among the three. They bounced off each other. Well. Like I said with Monica, it also applies to the other two. The power sets are fun since we don't
really understand them. They can kind of do this, kind of do that. It's basically whatever they want. But it works to a certain degree. The switching stuff that they use to hurt them and help them, it gets a little messy at times. I like it and it don't. It doesn't fully make sense because sometimes they seem to both these powers but don't switch, and then another time it happened. There was one time where two of them used it and they swapped with one. That did confuse me. But then
it had the best line of the movie of oh it's just Carol. That was great. That's the funniest line of them. Not a great pop in my theater, Yeah, that was. But it's one of those things like I'm not diving deep into it because if I'm gonna forgive the time travel and endgame. I can't overthink this. It's just it just gets messy. The first act in general is messy, but they get they get past it quickly. Uh. The villain was fine. She was neither good nor bad,
like you understood her motives. To me, she was like a better version of Ronan because you didn't really understand why though she's a better version of that. Yeah, she was a You understood what she was doing and why she was doing it, which is all you really need from a villain, I guess. But that's part of the reason why this movie is capped as well. You didn't you don't have a great villain potential here. Ultimately, like I felt like this was one of the best outcomes of this movie. And
again I never thought this had forty dog potential or anything like that. I don't have a ton to complain about. It was a mix of that first Captain Marvel movie with a heavy dose of Miss Marvel, both of which I enjoyed, plus a nice little dash of Monica who has the awesome powers.
I got this at thirty four Hot Dogs Goo number twenty two in the MCU, just behind Wakanda Forever, just above Miss Marvel, but it's technically tied with like six or seven MCU entries at thirty four hot Dogs and for twenty twenty three, this is number ten, just behind Quantum Mania and just above Renfield. You are gonna regret that No. I enjoyed this, nuch. I just wanted to say that, because you've told me that multiple times.
I've given a suck. I actually it was fun. Right before recorded, one of my college roommates was a big MCU guy, Texamine, said he loved this movie. He's gonna regret that too. Mac. I love Kamala Khan. I love the Khan family, but I just didn't really care for Monica or for Carol. I do really like the power swapping in this I thought that was fun and I could have used more of it. And I actually I really liked that one scene where they knew what they were doing in
their power swapping and they were planning things out ahead of time. That was a pretty fun team. I also liked them, you know, planning it cee. Mac. I'm being pretty positive. The dialogue fucking sucked. It was bad. I really hated from I didn't buy anything between any of these characters outside of Kamala. Well, that's so, that's the acting, that's not the dialogue. No, what they were given was pretty bad. I don't. I feel like you're picking this bone and there's nothing there to pick
off of it. Speaking of being pretty bad, the villain stunk very one note not great. Better than stink though, am I right? Yeah? Were having a short run time, real bad pacing. I was what I was waiting for this thing to end. Jesus Christ, good, you gotta find a new theater. But then, having said that, by the time we got to that final scene, I'm like, give me more of this. I want this the whole time. I don't. That is insane to me because I enjoyed, like I want a second season of Miss Marvel.
That's yes, I want Miss Marvel. I don't want the other two Marvels. The other two Marvels are not fun, which again brings me back to how did you enjoy Captain Marvel? Because she wasn't Marvel for most of it. She's a boring hero. Superman is a boring hero. But I again, what I'm pointing out here is your own points. It makes no sense for you to have enjoyed Captain Marvel the way you did and not like this. No, I like the Superman Origin, or you hated Captain Marvel and
didn't like this. That makes sense. Don't you put words in my mouth or thoughts in my brain whatever you're trying to do. Right now, I got to say, that's twenty five hot dogs. Geez dude, that is low. It is low. I have this just below Iron Man three and just below just above the Captain America boys. Oh wow, Yeah, I got thirty five out of forty one and on the year twenty third, just below Indiana Jones. I'm an old man riding a horse in the subway.
How many movies you at for twenty twenty three? By the thirty two, I think about thirty eight. I want to say I will get to like forty to fifty by the end of the year. But I got this long assplect to Hawaii to and from so I'm hoping to get two movies to drag brag. But I will say it's just better than the machine. What's the mission? Oh, the Burt Kreisler movie. So credit to them, Jesus Christ Good. I read to that. I feel like you're doing it doing
a bit or something. I just fully don't understand how you didn't like this movie. It's not very good. I thought I thought it was like the definition of good. And I'm a marvel apologist. I am a Marvel I get paid by Disney to say nice things about their movies, and I just can't do it. Like, to me, the very definition of good, nuck great is this in the first ant man? I think, also coming off the back of It's really stuck with me the finale of Loki and how
much I love that episode to then go to this. Five episodes prior to Loki were like, just fine, can you shut up for one second? But this ends on a high note too. No, not really. The third act is bad. I like, no, I like the final scene that doesn't have anything to do with the rest of the movie. I just I don't get it. I don't get it. Look, man, you can be off on Revis Island by yourself. Shall we spoil? Yeah, let's get to the spoiler spiler spiler spilers? Can I put up my favorite
part of the movie, sure, best laugh of the entire movie. My entire theater was cackling when they were looking for someone to take the refugees and Valkyrie. You know, Rainbow rode in which, by the way, she's in this movie for a couple of minutes. She Rainbow rode it onto the ship. Yeah, and like it. Well, no, so it had like that Marvel panshot where like it showed her and like kind of like establishes her on screen and the lady sitting next to me. He goes, what
the fuck is that everyone in the theater died? H that's pretty good. Yeah. I didn't know that the Guardians could still use the bifrost. I didn't know that that was still a thing that they could do. Does she have storm Breaker? Because storm Breaker has what it is is him Dahal's son probably has that, right, He's able to do that. Oh, did Thor toss it to him like, Hey, I'm gonna leave now, I'm gonna play on the beach. No, Well, Thor can do that,
sure, but I'm saying him Dahal could do that. I'm pretty sure his Himdal had a sword that could do that well to operate the bridge. Yes, I think him Dal could do it. Anyways, because remember in Endgame he sends Or in Infinity War he sends Hulk to Earth. Do you think that there was an original line in the movie where Carol's like, wait, how do you do that without all of your technology? And then she goes just shut the fuck up. So I'm pretty sure he's shoots her there.
The second thing is what the biggest takeaway from Secret Invasion is the President hates Aliens, hates and hates everyone. So did she take the scrolls back to New Asgard on Earth or are they elsewhere? No? New Asguard Earth. That's definitely why they assume that though, because that's what she runs. Where else would she take them? They very easily could have gone to a new
planet because the President's like, hey, war with Aliens? Maybe, But I would assume that she would take them to the land that she now owns. Yeah, that's what I'm That's what I one would think on on surface level, But then you consider Secret I'm a surface level might have a planet. I'm a surface level thinker. I love windows products. What I really liked about this movie Goo is not operating on Earth, finally being out in
space. And the only movies that I've really done that is if any war endgame in the Guardians movie So I liked that because what it does is you're not sitting there questioning, oh, where's so and so, where's where's this place? That I did? I question that at the end. So uh, Like I said earlier, I thought that Nick Furro was a little too
loosey goosey if you asked me, And it really was. At the end when Barten Denbar dar Ben bab Bar is trying to steal the Sun and she wants the Marvels to go there because she wants Miss Marvel's Bengal, and Nick Fury even points that out, and she's like, I'm not gonna lose. He's like, all right, cool, see you later. He's not like, you know, you stay here and I will call any of the other heroes. They're not gonna lose with Captain Marvel, and they did lose the
Bengals. It looks like she did lose for a second. Yeah, yeah, so a Bengal for a second. I feel like Nick Fury on his game says, no, I'm gonna send war Machine instead. No, she very easily explains it. The only way to save the universe is to unite the two Bengals. So yes, that is a risk we're taking, but we need to also obtain the second Bengal to save the universe. I'm just saying Nick Fury wouldn't have done that in the past. I think he absolutely
would have because he has no attachment to Kamala Kon. He would have gave it to someone better, like who strong, who could go out into space. I just said, war Machine, what were She's not going out to space? You shouldn't be Can you imagine that Bengal on his warm don cheetle would get up into the upper atmosphere and fucking piss himself, war Machine, where'd you put the Bengal? It's not on your wrist cling It's not as cock mac cock talk. Yeah. Nice. Yeah, we got a review
saying that we needed more cock, So there we go. That's very true. Thirty sevens. Let's get to the biggest takeaway from this movie the mid credit scene. But so if the biggest takeaways and the best parts are the end of the movie and the mid credit scenes, we've already said this a million times, that speaks poorly of the movie. I knew going in this movie wasn't gonna be great. This movie is great. You know what you're
talking about. Uh. The biggest takeaway clearly though, is the X Men, which would be the big away and any non Avengers movie X Men. But also it just says that those X Men are in an alternate reality. Yeah, so here's the biggest thing. So number one, we get Kelsey Grammer voicing Voicing Beast slash Hank McCoy, And then we get do you think they tried to put the makeup on him at first? And he's like,
I've got too much shit around with a limp? Yeah, I know him at the end of Days of Future Past, and he didn't look great. I'll be honest, didn't look great there. But he is here as the voice. And we see Maria rambo a variant of her. She might be binary, which I guess is a hero, but maybe just Captain mart is one of the two that the variant that was in Doctor Strange. No sure or not. I'm just I'm asking you don't snap at me. They also
of course reference Charles, so they're in the X Men mansion. But because Maria Rambau is there and because it's a CGI Beast, I don't think this is the X Men that we know already. I think this is a version of The X Men we haven't met. I think it could be. I don't think there's like a definitive yes, No, I don't think it's definitive.
But I think it would be a weird choice to have like seven movies with Kelsey Grammer as Beast and have him not be CGI, even like if you look to the younger version of Nicholas Holt, I was gonna ask you, do you think they tried to get Holt first? I don't know. That's a good question though, but those were not CGI beasts and this one is. I think it's because Kelsey Grammar is really old and it's really easy just to see giam. I think also that means it's a different version of
the X Men. That's all I'm saying. I think that to me is all right. So go on Twitter right now? Do you side with Mac or Goo? Have I even said which side I side with? Uh? One of the cooler scenes in the movie here Goo is in the conclusion. This is the best scene of the movie. After they've saved the universe. You have have Kamala Khan sneaking into Kate Bishop's apartment Nick Fury style sitting down with the hat in the Shadows, and she asked Kate Bishop to join a
team. She's built pretty much the exact same dialogue that Nick Fury gives to iron Man in iron Man one, and she tries to be like kind of cool, intimidating, and then the jig is up because Kate Bishop's like what and then she's like, I got feelers out to Cassie Laning. So this is a setup obviously for the Young Avengers, which I think we'll see them maybe in the Thunderbolts as a team for the first time. That's that's my guess. And the other other thing in this movie, go Goosta Flirkin gives
birth to thirty other Flurkins. You think about that, it's too much. I don't know what flirkins can do. That's another thing, because like inside their mouths is just a whole. It's like a quantum realm inside their mouths. They can just fit whatever they want. That was a bit much. That's Oh, I enjoyed that. I liked the idea once again, but I'm just like, this is too much. Other than Sam Jackson saying,
oh, it's just Kara, what killed me? Was the PA announcer on the saber station saying don't run, the Flirkins are gonna save us, and everyone's still running. Yeah, it was great, it was real good. Yeah, thirty four hot dougskoo, Am I being too hard on this movie? Mac? I think so. I think I've ever been too high.
I think you're being too soft. No, if the first Captain Marvel three, I wouldn't be surprised if what the general consensus is is like twenty nine or thirty hot Dogs and you're just being Daddy Bear, I'm being Mama Bear. I don't know. I feel like it's hard to not like this movie now. I don't know if anyone's gonna fucking love this movie sounds my college roommate, but it's fun, it's quick, Kamala Khan's great. Like I have Miss Marvel at thirty four, I think I've Captain Marvel at thirty two,
maybe thirty three. And this I thought was for sure better than the first movie and on par if not better than the Miss Marvel series. If you ever become someone get that gets your like movie writings onto like rotten tomatoes, could your first one be either this is fucking awesome or this is fucking terrible and just get kicked off immediately. I'll use flirking instead. This is flirking terrible. No no, no, no, no no no. We don't bleep each other out. No no, I'll bleed my asps. I
won't bleed my ce'es. I'll bleed as my conservative writer. But he uses the word cut quite a bit, like he wouldn't even say ass. He used took us and then in the same sentence, you only got one. Come on, man, let's get into Max and maxac could be anything that could be a boat in mac. I don't have anything in your sack. Do you have anything in your sack? I got nothing. I'm I'm I'm
interested to see. Uh. Some of the fallout from our Loki Discussiro there talking about what we do for Cain going forward and who the big bad is gonna be. They have a movie planned and named Kane Dynasty, so clearly he's still in there. But I think the conclusion of Loki obviously opens up stories into this X Men type of universe that we see at the end of the marvels, as well as maybe Doctor Doom comes in here, and that's how they introduce the Fantastic Four, which I think is a year and a
half away, is that movie. So there's a lot of possibilities on the horizon and a big part of that is because of the Loki finale. So I'm pretty intrigued as to where Marvel is going now. It also could get real messy, but I'm looking forward to it. Also, Tom Hidlston was on the Jimmy Fallon show That is our Bible, of course, and he said he pretty much made it known that this is kind of it for him
and Marvel. Well that's what he said. At least I wouldn't be surprised if he shows up again, but if this is it for him, his finale was great. Yeah, I agree, great send off for the character. Some of the rumors I've seen as he might pop up in Secret Wars like maybe be like a pull in the strings type of character. But I
don't know. I almost don't want him to come back because it was such a good sendoff it was, But I also I want we might not see this version of Thor again, but I still want to see these two together, like one more time. Hemsworth and Hittleston. How do you really do that? Though? Being where Loki's at. You know, how would they get that to work if they both get killed and they both go to is
it Valhalla? Valhalla? But so Loki being at the end of time essentially now, but he's not the Citadel because I think that's where rens Layer is, so it's just his own little chair area for him to be removed from there. I think he's gonna be killed, right, so maybe a Kang kills him and then and now that he's a good guy, maybe we're gonna vary it we get him as a variant. Maybe I guess he can't do it. I guess I don't know. It's to be hard to do.
Yeah, hard to explain, but once again, awesome send off. I'm cool with it. The last twenty minutes of Loki were phenomenal. Would you I mean, Iron Man Tony Stark best send off so far? Would you put it above or below the sendoff for Captain America before he shows up again? Ah, it was very satisfying to see Steve Rogers go back and live out the life you wanted to live. It was more fitting for the Loki character, So wrestle that how you want. Well, because they both got
what they wanted. Loki didn't really get what he wanted. Well, he begrudgingly made a second no, but he did, and if you haven't seen the end of it, just turned this podcast off. All he's ever wanted in all of these movies is a throne. He got his throne, I guess, so, if you want to frame it like that, he is sitting on a throne. He is sitting on a throne. He has what he wants, all right, that I'll do it for this episode of Mac
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other day, and Tim Meadows is just perfect. Had I think I had a top five in my rank. It's tough five or top six, but that's one of the ones that like definitely gets better each time. But also because I'm usually annoyed when uh Tim Robinson hands off a great character to someone else, because I'm like, I would rather see him do it. But Tim Meadows nails this one. Yeah. Yeah. Oh by the way, goo yeah. Did you see the who were the uh the shorts now on
SNL those oh do not destroy? Did you see the short they did with uh Shallow May this past weekend? No, I'm gonna watch it in a second. It's like, it feels like Tim Robinson. It feels like a Tim Robinson rip off. Now, those guys are funny enough, but that feels like a Tim Robinson's sketch. Watch it and tell me I don't mean to speak ill of people. But I mean their stuff feels like a mix of Lonely Island and Tim Robinson. They're just capitalizing on what the other two
had done successfully. Yeah, And then also mean they were on foul on the other day, and two of their fathers were writers on SNL, so it's like, all right, yeah, all right, that makes sense. But also I saw the first four minutes of their Peacock movie coming out and Conan O'Brien's in it, and Conan made me laugh. All right, when's that out? Is it out already? H soon? Okay? I thought it was a tea and my cousin told me, no, it's a movie. I'm like, I believe it's a movie. Yeah, shut up,
dude. All right, So, uh, news dump. At the end of the week, you go have fun. Yeah, you go to you go to Hella'i. We'll see how if I ever come back. Did you win your raffle? No, it did not win. It looks like Max is coming back. Max coming back. That would have been nice. So yeah, I will find someone'll I'll go to our deep bench of mac and Goo felins and get doc or something. Well, wait, are you are you catching any screenings this week because we have like fucking three or four.
I am I am going to see Next Goal wins tomorrow night or tonight, last night, whenever you're listening to this, it'd be last night because this is Goose Day right now. And then I am not seeing Napoleon because it's being shown at one o'clock in the afternoon. Sadly, I actually do really want to see it, mainly because Ridley Scott is the man, like, he is just the best. He's on a page right now, he is
on a James Cameron rampage right now. Someone called him out for not having historically accurate things in the movie, and he just goes, fuck you, like I respect that. What a great response. I do respect that. Yes, And then was there another one? Wish? I think was the other one. I'm just not gonna see Wish. I don't want to see Wish. Okay, fair enough, but maybe I will, who knows.
Yeah, all right, Mac, you enjoy your flight. Hopefully you get to watch a bunch of sweet movies on the theater plane the plane theater, on the plane theater. Yeah. Are you on one of those planes that has a theater on it? Yeah? Of course, I spent up for that. Yeah, would people spend up for one of those? You think? Now? Probably not for those seats, for sure. That's a good
point. I would love comfortable seats. I've never done a flight this long eleven or twelve hours, so I don't know what the seat's gonna I've done twenty four hours and I wanted to kill myself. Yeah I might. That might be me in a day. Yeah, so all right, Tuesdays or Guesdays I abuse kangaroos. I please flip the cassette over to side B to continue the adventure.