KATY PERRY

what's most important. You know, you're the record folks, and everybody the producers sent me all this these facts about you. Know you're amazing success. But I love the fact that whenever I see you on any show or anything, you seem so down to earth and reel. Well. I put my pants on one leg at a time, just like everybody else. Um, I can't fly, and you know I won't make it out here alive. So I think all

those reminders you know, level me every day. But I think I do have a gift and I love using it and I love sharing it, and I love making people happy. I think that makes me really happy to make other people happy, but um, I really feel very normal. And also I'm sometimes just completely surprised by all of this. Not surprised because I work really really hard, but just like super grateful. Right, Well, you do work very, very hard, and you've got a new album out and you're going

on tour in September. I am. I have a tour that kicks off in the United States is September seven, and it goes all around the country. Check out. You can go to Katy Perry dot com to look for the tour dates. And it's going to be a really a super fun show. It's always an experience when you're coming to one of my shows. It's larger than life. It's not just one one look or one scene. It's going to be like, uh, you know some of my heroes like well Disney, just like bringing a whole difference

to real world to an arena. So it's super fun. So the album is Witness and we're we started playing a song off of it a couple of weeks ago. Janey sent it to me and she said, de stir because I'm in a wonderful relationship with a wonderful man and we're married and I love him. Deeply. But before all that, I was in a situation let's just leave it at that. And she sent me the single save a draft. He's like, you got to listen to this song. And I listened to it and I'm like, oh my gosh,

how many times did I do that? You write the words, you come up with the letter, what you're gonna say, how you're going to say it, so they finally understand how much you love them and it all works out. I know, And you know, I've been in that cycle before in a relationship and it had kind of re ignited the relationship. And um, there's only so many times you can reignite the relationship or want to or should and sometimes you just need to write it and never

send it. It's just that exercise, you know, that cathartic exercise. Um, you shouldn't press send. It's like a lesson in self control, you know what. That's what best friends are for. Yeah, you do send it to your your best friend. For my producer, Janey has been my best friend for almost thirty years and she knows me through and through. And I mean that when I say that, because she was the birth and coach for my two bio babies. Um, but we have a packed, we have a life packed.

You do not hit send until you send it to your best friend exactly. I mean, I like, I like, um, drafting and then sleeping on it because you know, for me, my emotions get very heightened in the evening. I don't know everybody else, it's just like one of those things. And then in the morning when I wake up, I'm like, oh, I'm so glad I didn't send that. I can get you know, I can get through another day without this situation, and in nighttime comes around and that's why my show

is so successful. Yeah. Well, I mean, by the way, I've been listening to you my whole life, um, and your voice is it's so soothing and I think everybody feels really safe listening to you. Um. It's uh. Many a coast drives from Los Angeles to Santa Barbara have been had just listening to you speak. So you're kind of like a bit of a meditation. So thank you so much for everything you do and how calm you keep us all. Thank you. But you know what it's

true about our emotions. They are heightened at night. That's when addictions kick in. That's when your destructive habits kick in. That's when that's when asthma people who are asthmatics. I have a daughter who's severe asthmatic. That's when you're asthma reactions kick in is late at night. And so that that's one of the reasons that God has me here at night, because that's when the monsters crawl out from under the bed and you you hit sinned. Yeah, I know. Well,

I'm glad for you. So seriously, part of part of your mission is I'm guessing, especially from the lyrics of the new songs on your new album, is to help people realize how empowered they are and how blessed they are. And I'm reading the lyrics and I'm just devouring them, and I have to ask you this. The lyrics of a couple of your new songs, UM talks about how you've had to fight for the right to be true to who you are, yes authenticity. So I was going

to ask who who? And I don't I'm not asking you to tattle tale or name names, but what situations for young women, especially who are listening. I have seven daughters, UM, what situations have you been in where you now can look back and go, thank god I was true to myself. Thank God I didn't let them control me or steal me or make me into something else. Yeah. I mean, I think it's really prevalent in all the social media

interactions these days. I think, um, you know, uh, it's it seems small, but I think it's a big exercise to kind of step away from your phone and from your Instagram and from posting or like, you know, I think we're all in this cycle of trying to like take a picture of everything and then doctor it up or make our lives look so fabulous or keep you know, keep up with these appearances or you know, keeping up with the Joneses or whatever, and it's not real, and

it's making everyone so really, um lonely and disconnected. And they think they're being connected because they're getting the like so they're getting the comments. But um, I just encourage people to set their phone down and actually, you know, have real community with their friends, or try and go on a hike and leave their phone in the car, or um you know, socialized but not socialized on the internet.

Because I think that we're getting really caught up in um creating this alternate reality that we could never keep up with this idea of perfection. Um. And I think it's making young people, especially young girls, feel more insecure than ever. Um and uh. I think I did this experiment where I went four days um live streaming on YouTube and I showed everything. I showed, UM all this it all of the dark circles, the good, the bad, the ugly. You know, people think pop stars or like

people in Hollywood are perfect. They're really not. They're really just normal. And I don't. I don't want to be perfect, and I don't want to show that kind of thing off. And UM, I think there's really really real beauty in the imperfection. And um, I want to encourage that imperfectious that okaynus with imperfection in young people. I think that

social media is kind of a real dark place. An even though like you know, I have a hundred million people on the winter following me, which is hilarious, I say that, but it's I go on there and and I just it's like a lot of people that are arguing and not really talking with each other. They're talking at each other, and like you go on, you make a statement and or you like argue with the person that you know, like, would you say those things to those people when you meet them? Would you say them

to their face? You know, we live in this unaccountable phase online which is really really strange. So, um, I

just I like I encourage community more. Um Like, I'm doing a real interactive um thing with the Boys and Girls Club of America all over America during my tour where um my fans get the opportunity to instead of buying a ticket, they can earn the ticket through volunteering or doing a good deed through the Boys and Girls Called of America Because I think the kids there are the future they are and you know, if those kids that young can um learn the right thing the right

ways and have better tools, than we're gonna have a better future. But if everyone just logs onto Instagram, I'm like, I'm out, even even though like I posed, But you know, I want to talk about the Boys and Girls Club just a little bit more because not only can they earn their ticket, but a dollar of every ticket sold for your for your Witness tour goes to the Boys and Girls clubs locally. Right, absolutely, Yeah, that's wonderful, thank you. No, I mean here's the thing is like it's over a

hundred and fifty years old and it's tried and true. UM, I think people forget that there's a boys and girls club around the corner from basically every one, and UM that they can get involved there. You know, they don't have to start a new organization. And if they do, that's great too. But UM, a lot of people, I think right now, they're like, well, we've done the donate thing. How can I really give my time? How can I really give my energy? How can I actually have a

real interaction with a person? You know, how can I touch a heart and UM learn and gives you know, I don't want to just click. I don't want to just click a button on the internet anymore. I really want to go out there and do it myself. My whole mission right now for me is like I do have that feeling of like wanting to change the world. And I know I have a lot of spotlight UM and advantage and privilege and et cetera. But like, if I can't even change myself, how can I change the world?

Or if I can't even affect you know, the people I work with, UM on a day to day basis, how can I change the world, or like even living in Los Angeles, I'm like, oh, I want to change the world, or I want to go to you know, crazy places in the world and affect it. But like, the homeless rate in Los Angeles is crazier than ever. If you turn one wrong corner downtown, it looks like a refugee camp and you're and I'm thinking to myself, wait, hold on, maybe I just need to help in my

own neighborhood, in my own community. The Boys and Girls Club is such a great way to do that because, like you said, they're tried and true. They've been around forever, and the good they do transforms lives. If you can get a hold of a kid when they're eight or nine or ten and give them a sense of self worth and a sense of family, so they don't join the gang, they don't you know, start using, they don't

start drinking and drugging at twelve or fifteen. They don't start, you know, disrespecting their bodies and using their bodies for whatever. Then you you you didn't just impact a child, You

just saved a life. Yeah, I agree with you, And that's going to be what, you know, like my purposes on this next tour on the Witness the tour, UM, it's just to see people and to witness them and to hear their story and to connect with them, UM and help them and encourage them in any way possible I can um, whether it's just to be there physically or uh, just to hear them, to give them that moment um I don't know, just like you know, make them feel like they do exist, that they are special,

they do have a purpose. Just overall encouragement. I'm so excited. I'm going to go to boys and Growth clubs all across America and um really learn kind of what the state of America is right now and really meet the people and really connect with them. That's my goal and my purpose for this next tour. The song that we're playing right now, um You is fun and wonderful and

helpful when we're angst NG. But the song that touched me the deepest when I listened to the each song on the new album really is the title cut Witness. Oh Great. That says it all. That's to me. That's the whole philosophy of my faith and my life wrapped up in just a few words, so beautifully. So thank you. For that. We're all here just to be connected. That's what we want so badly, Like at the end of the day, we just want to be seen. We just want to connect. We want to feel loved and like

feel like we exist. And you know, we do everything, like we work so hard, we like grind, we we try and make as much money as possible to be seen, to be connected, maybe even with one individual when we lay our head down at the pillow at night, we just want to like we want to connect to that person, you know. And I think it's as simple as that, Like human connection is what we're here for. I had a path st that gave a two part sermon probably

thirty forty years ago. He doesn't even remember it because I brought it up to him a couple of times. His name is Mike McCorkle, and his message was in two parts. In the first part, he said when when I die, he says, I believe when I come face to face with my creator, He's going to ask me two questions. Number one, what did you do with me while you were alive? And number two, what did you do with every single person that I put in your path to connect with? And so the first weeks, you know,

talk was about what did you do with me? Did you did you make room in your heart for me? Did you believe in me? And the second part was what did you do with every person that I put in your path? And he said, people aren't put in your path by accident. The person you're setting next to on the plane isn't there by accident. And as he went through this, I went that Katie, that changed me on a cellular level to realize that my whole purpose is to share love with the people that God places

in my life. Absolutely all you can do is just be kind time and time again in every circumstance. Just be kind and well, like I said when I listened to Witness and then I read the lyrics that I went, she just she summed it up in like three and a half minutes. Beautifully, Thank you, beautifully, No, thank you. I mean, I think, I think, no matter if you're Joe Schmo or Katy Perry, you just want to connect, you know, no matter if you have it all or

if you don't have anything, you just want to connect. Well, you connect with my listeners and you know this, I mean, it's in such a huge world. Thank you. I appreciate you guys playing Savis draft um and UM. I know everyone can resonate with that because we've all been there. We've all wanted to send that tech or we have and then we realize, oh, now we have to deal with that or the email, you know, or the letter.

So sometimes it's just good to sleep on it. The line in that song that I cracked up with is you don't usually mess around with with coins, but you've been, you know, tossing a few. How many times do I toss the coin? Okay, if it comes up heads, that means I'm supposed to call him. That's what that means. No, no, no, no, no right right right, no, I know, HI know. Why don't you just listen? Why don't you just listen to

the green, yellow red light in your heart? If we all listen to that more, we would be in a better place. Yeah we would. That's the original coin flipper. But we don't because we're knuckle heads. And when you love, the heart wants what the heart wants. Yeah, I get it. I understand. Well, thank you for giving us so much

of your time. Before you hang up, I have to tell you that, Um, Sheyla and Angel and Blessing and Clara and Eva and Zach and t K and all my kids adore you and they just those are that's all the names of your children. You're That's amazing. I

love those names. I might, I might borrow a couple. Okay, here you go, you ready, Lanka, Isaiah, Eugene, Tanjanique, Teresa, Emmanuel, Demetrius, Trade, Jerome, Angel, Mercy, Bridget, Lucky Girls, Sheyla, Maria, Zachariah, Miguel, Thomas, Carlton, Blessing, Uh, Princess Clara, Belle, Delilah my name's sake. And now baby Paul, What does Delilah mean? You don't want to know. I do want to know. It means evil, seductress, Delila. Oh

my gosh, what Catherine means pure? So remember the story of Samson and Delilah, how she told him you've cut his hair, cut his hair got a Lilah. I had to live up to that for a year. Two. Yeah, you've come a long way and you are rewriting your story obviously, aren't we all? Aren't we all? Thank thank God? God is a god of second chances and third chances

and fifth chances. Otherwise I've been dead. I love waking up every morning remembering that that, like, no matter what happened yesterday, I can just start new today, Like I can make a decision, a choice to have more a better positive attitude, you know. I can let things go. I can't. I don't have to do things that I don't want to do, you know. Or I can make better choices starting right now. I love mornings because of that.

Thank you Katie Perry for spending time with this, and thank you for being so passionate about music and about loving on kids and about keeping it real. Well, thank you the Lilac left you go down and let some more with you. Line Love