Hello, everyone. I am a park ranger, and I will be leading you on the tour. All of the park rangers here at Alcatraz were at one time guards, myself included. My name is John Johnson, but everyone here calls me Vicky. Will you please follow me?
I love Vicky. He's a great guy. CHARLIE MACKENZIE: He's the best. Oh.
[TELEVISION, "FRICTION"]
You are listening to WREK, Atlanta. And this is Lost in the Stacks, the research library rock and roll radio show. I'm Charlie Bennett, but everyone here calls me Vicky. I'm in the studio with-- oh gosh, a panel that's moving-- with Marlee Givens, Fred Rascoe, Cody Turner, and some dude. Each week on Lost in the Stacks, we pick a theme and then use it to create a mix of music and library talk. Whichever you tune in for, we hope you dig it.
MARLEE GIVENS: And our show today is called The GT Library Guidebook. It is, in fact, the first of a new occasional series for Lost in the Stacks in which we will tour the Georgia Tech Library as a physical space. Yeah, we're going to lean back into library as place.
Ah, that old chestnut.
We get into theory and research and advocacy on this show. And we talk about the virtual experience and the digital presence. But there was a time just a little while ago where it seemed like all the show considered was the library building and how it was changing. And I just kind of miss those days.
You're talking about almost 10 years ago, Vicky-- Charlie.
Yeah, you can call me Vicky. I am a stereotypical middle-aged man, Fred. I am looking back to the past.
I can identify.
Yes, you can.
All right, both of you, snap out of it.
Whoa, OK.
Let's get back to the present. Our guest today has given a ton of tours of the building, so he seemed like the right person to kick off the series-- a little practical, a little meta--
I like it.
--as we talk about what's in the building.
And our songs today are about being guided along a path, experiencing the place where you are, and looking for answers. We all know what it's like for a library, trying to get the attention of a community and to communicate our worth. It's hard. Perhaps in our more pessimistic moments, we feel that minimum returns in usage and engagement aren't worth the maximum effort spent to get that engagement.
That is a long way to say a small thing, Fred.
So let's start-- I specialize in that. So let's start with a track about facing those long odds. This is "Pyrrhic Pyrrhic" by Red Dons right here on Lost in the Stacks.
[RED DONS, "PYRRHIC PYRRHIC"]
That was "Pyrrhic Pyrrhic" by Red Dons. And this is Lost in the Stacks. Our show today is called The Georgia Tech Library Guidebook, The GT Library Guidebook, GT for Georgia Tech if you're in the know. It's our kickoff episode for a series that we're calling, well, The GT Library Guidebook.
On the first Friday of each month, we'll have an episode of The Guidebook, featuring a space or a service in the Georgia Tech Library.
And for a kickoff episode, we thought we would consider the big picture, the library buildings themselves. So our guest is Jason Wright, director of communications at the Georgia Tech Library. And welcome back to the show, Jason.
Oh, hello.
OK, we're going to have a number of characters appear throughout the show, and that's OK. Jason, when I was doing prep for the show, I found this phrase. I was like, oh, this is where we're starting. So part of your job description or your biography for the library is you are responsible for telling the Georgia Tech Library's story. What? JASON WRIGHT: Like, what is that? What does that mean? Yeah.
From a very practical standpoint, it means all the things that we do that we want people to know about, so classes, workshops, events, that sort of thing. So people, various librarians, or faculty members, staff members come and they say, hey, I want to have this event, or, I want to teach this workshop. I say, OK. So I take that. And I put it in the right systems and create some visuals for it and things like that and just make sure it all kind of goes smoothly.
And then I run all that stuff on social media. And so you can look at social media, the feed that it gives you, as your brand story. That's the metaphor that is usually used in the parlance of-- yeah.
I'm getting a little itchy with this corporate talk.
Yeah, yeah. So basically, the story that I'm telling is that Georgia Tech Library is a lively place. Come. We've got things going on all the time. And then we supplement that with what electronic resources are new, pieces that I might just come across. Or today, we had a piece that was published with Dr. Dylan Henry, who runs retroTECH. And so it's just kind of highlighting retroTECH. So it's like, hey, check out this piece that Dr. Dylan Henry did about retroTECH.
And then also, I want to give a shout out to my student assistant, Niknaz. She does these great pieces, where she just kind of interviews students or does just vibe things around campus. And it absolutely outperforms anything I ever do by far. And it really gives a nice feel because it's about, here's just people in the library, and this is part of your college experience. And you're in college now. This is it, man. Like, this is what you're going to remember, those types of things.
The entirety of that together is the story of the library.
Got you, trying to give people an image of the library that will kind of be their default. Is how that works?
Yeah, yeah, yeah. So, I mean, if you go back to the birth of public relations, what it is really about is the psychology of placing an image in someone's mind. That's what it is, a concept or an image in people's minds.
And so for us, really what that breaks down to is, every single day, multiple touch points across various platforms, whether it be the website, social media, in the building, that all say the same thing, all visually say the same thing, all kind of meta contextually say the same thing of, this is a place that you come for knowledge, but you can bring your friends.
And this is a place where you can be buttoned up and quiet up on the seventh floor, or you can be in a raucous, collaborative group, like on the third floor or fourth floor. You can do multimedia stuff. And it allows that story to have various shades of the different things you can do in the library. CHARLIE BENNETT: You're not a librarian who was tasked to do this. We hired you because you were a professional at telling these stories.
Was there anything that was new when you came to the library or anything that didn't work that you were used to using? So I came from local government. And then before that, I was a journalist. So all of higher ed was new to me. And libraries were very new to me, too. I do have to give a huge shout out to-- there it is again. I said it again-- but one of our former colleagues who hired me. oh my god, my mind is--
You said shout out too many times. It kind of-- it fries you.
Yeah, I did. I did. And then I got lost on that. CHARLIE BENNETT: Yeah, I actually don't know who hired you. There are so many former colleagues. The person that you started the show with.
Ameet.
Ameet.
Ameet!
Yes.
Ameet hired you? CHARLIE BENNETT: Not a vegetable.
I am way too old. I am so old. I'm 43. I got two kids. They run me to death.
OK, we'll cut this part out when it goes to podcast.
So anyway, so for me, he gave me all this great foundational stuff to read before I started so that I could really understand the history of libraries and what was going on at the Georgia Tech Library. So that was incredibly valuable. But then I will say what was very new to me was, in government, you can't really have much personality to any of your communications because that gets you in trouble, right? A lot of brands have tried this. And it gets them in trouble.
Like, one that works is Wendy's. People love that. Wendy's is a brand. And they're snarky on their social media. But then The AJC, The Atlanta Journal-Constitution, tried some stuff like that. And it's like, I'm sorry, but you can't.
I feel like we could do shows and shows and shows about that moment when Wendy's decided to be the kind of abrasive, "just eat the food" sort of social media idea.
Yeah. And so where I came from, local government, a lot of stuff-- I had done crime before and all this different stuff. So I ended up just being very cut and dry and really focusing a lot on-- especially at that time, it was like, OK, well, how do I get people to actually look at this? And it was happy kids at our events, pets, dogs, things like that, right?
This is the local government part? Yeah.
The government thing. The government thing. And then when it came to Georgia Tech, it was like, OK, so I've got a little bit more latitude. And so I've kind of dabbled in that a little bit. But once again, it is something that I'm really hesitant because as powerful as humor can be, it can get you in trouble kind of quick. And so it's constantly a balancing act of trying to ensure that we're being authentic to the library.
And, yes, here are the actual-- this is the important scholarship that is happening and things that are great at the library. But then-- and this is where Niknaz really comes in, allowing some kind of fun things to come in, too, because we're in college. And it's not as staid an environment. And so that's something that was kind of new to me that I really enjoy. And it's something that I'm really hoping to push forward.
I made the proposal yesterday to the dean that we have another student-- CHARLIE BENNETT: Oh, it's a scoop. And that this student, maybe their entire job is just whatever ridiculous meme thing is going on at that time-- because I've seen some other libraries that are doing pretty good at this. And it's literally-- so if it's-- I know demure is probably already done, right? That was last week. But so it would--
I have literally no idea what you were just referring to. And that's totally cool. But I just realized we're going far afield.
OK, sorry, sorry, sorry. CHARLIE BENNETT: So I think we're going to shut down before we get a meme-ified segment. Is that OK? Totally fine.
Thanks, dude.
OK, so we're going to talk more. This is Lost in the Stacks. And we're going to talk more about the Georgia Tech Library story with Jason Wright after a music set.
File this set under AM7.C67.
[MURDERBAIT, "GHOST"]
[THE ERGS!, "FISH BULB"]
That was "Fish Bulb" by The Ergs!, and before that, "Ghost" by Murderbait, songs about being guided along a path.
[TELEVISION, "FRICTION"]
This is Lost in the Stacks. And today's show is called The GT Library Guidebook. And we are speaking with the Georgia Tech Library's director of communications, Jason Wright. And Jason was telling us about when he was hired. And it occurred to me it was around the time that we were doing a lot of talking about library's place because we were changing the physical building of the library. CHARLIE BENNETT: Yeah, was it 2016?
Late 2015.
Yeah.
OK.
Yeah. So now that we've changed the building and we're no longer having to convince people that we can do the library a different way-- so I feel like, Jason, your job has kind of leveled out. And you're able to talk about the library as a whole a little bit more.
Absolutely. So when I first started, it really was all about selling this concept of the new library. And it was tough because it was like, in a couple of years, you're going to have something really great. And it was also difficult because of just the sea change of moving most of the collections into cold storage and having only the highest-circulating materials in the building, where now it really is much, much more about the various kind of different things.
And I really do get a lot of nice different touch points. I try to have multiple types of content going out there. I always try and have a piece of visual content. I always try and have written and oral in terms of Lost in the Stacks or something I use all the time, and then video content, just all sorts of great stuff. And we get to do-- like, we get to highlight archives with Who Was. And we get to highlight our partnership with the Paper Museum with the Tech's Tactile Thursdays.
And we get to have a student do great stuff for us. So it really is-- it's a much more balanced approach to the library right now.
In the description of you doing your job, both in the last segment and this segment, you use terms like selling and branding. And it's a lot of language from-- you use the example from Wendy's. So it's a lot of example from the corporate world. But you, I don't think, have done this sort of work in the-- you mentioned working for government. You mentioned being a journalist. Now you're working in state academia.
Is it just because that language around doing this kind of thing comes from the corporate world?
Yeah. Well, and the corporate world is generally at the vanguard of any new practice, right? So you're going to want to look. Although I will say to a large part now, I think, most of the advancements come simply from young people, young people using social media. And I actually saw this great piece with Harmony Korine recently, where he was saying that movies are losing out to social media. That's where the great talent is coming from. And I think that's totally true.
I think it's like anything else. It's like young people use it in new ways because they've never been told not to, right? And so I try and have a wide berth of influence that I look at all times. That's called environment scanning.
The look on your face. I wish I could explain to people what you just did.
Yeah, in terms of strategic communication initiatives, that's known as the environment scanning piece. But that's the type of thing where I keep-- and the thing is, I look at other libraries. I look at other governments. I look at all sorts of different things just to try-- I will pull anything from anywhere if I think it would work for us and just give it a try.
But I will say, one of the very difficult things, though, is I do not have a bottom line, which is very clarifying in terms of, was I successful when it comes to public relations, right, because-- using the example of Wendy's, Wendy's stayed with that because more people talked about Wendy's. And they sold more burgers because of that.
They had the numbers of engagement. And then they could look at sales.
Exactly.
So now we're into the area that libraries really struggle with. How do we measure our impact? I feel like we're veering off into another show.
Yeah, let's go to a very narrow focus of your job because, clearly, we've talked about this larger sort of introduction of the library to multiple stakeholders and interested parties. But then the thing that this is sort of starting to become about is actually touring the building and looking around the building for what's going on in the library. You do tours, too. Are you in control of the tours? Are you in charge?
Very much so. CHARLIE BENNETT: What goes into that? So initially, what happened was when we opened the buildings, I went ahead and wrote the tour script. And we have lots of great input from-- like, Kirk was a great example of someone to be able to help me out to know about Paul Heffernan, who designed Price Gilbert. But basically, I was able to just take all that information, put it into a tour. And now my tours are pretty standard. They will change depending on the audience.
But for the most part, what I get are families or prospective students or people who want to come to campus to look at this cool library that they've heard about. And I pretty much take them through. I always start off in front of the gallery at PG1. That's a good, all-purpose entrance.
Say the full sentence for people who don't know what we're doing here.
Sorry. I start it off at the exhibit gallery, which is located on Price Gilbert's first floor, which is more or less a main entrance. The library is really porous. It has seven entrances and exits that also connect to Clough. But a lot of people like to come in through Price Gilbert One because the architecture suggests this as a main entrance because it was for a very long time.
There used to be a rotunda stuck to it.
Yes, yeah. So I start there. And I tell them about, oh, I know you're used to libraries, but here's a cool exhibit. Like, right now, we've got Dataseum going on in there, which is about recombinating publicly available data. And students did that. It's a great example of the type of thing we're trying to do in the library. Then I can take them to popular reading, which is right there, which fulfills their understanding of a library.
So that helps me over that because when we did not have books in the library, that was a huge impediment.
So we have to come to the end of this segment. But to top off what you're saying, you're telling a story in the tour also. You're trying to figure out how to do that. OK, we're going to talk a lot more about that soon.
Sure.
You're listening to Lost in the Stacks. And we are going to hear more about that and the Georgia Tech Library with Jason Wright on the left side of the hour.
[TELEVISION, "FRICTION"]
[ROCK MUSIC]
PETE LUDOVICE:You're listening to Lost in the Stacks on WREK Atlanta.
You believe in WREK?
I believe in WREK.
Today's show is called The GT Library Guidebook. This is almost a nostalgic episode for me because when we started Lost in the Stacks, we spent a lot of time talking about the building, telling people our story, talking about things that happened in the building, places in the library. We even told stories about the seventh floor, which was nothing like the current seventh floor. Back then, there were old paintings and wood panels and ghosts up there.
I'd like to take this mid-show break to read you a bit from a short story by Jorge Luis Borges from his book The Garden of Forking Paths, published in 1941. The universe, which others call the library, is composed of an indefinite, perhaps an infinite number of hexagonal galleries, with enormous ventilation shafts in the middle, encircled by very low railings. From any hexagon, the upper or lower stories are visible endlessly. The distribution of the galleries is invariable.
20 shelves, five long shelves per side, cover all sides except two. Their height, which is that of each floor, scarcely exceeds that of an average librarian. One of the free sides gives upon a narrow entrance way, which opens onto another gallery identical to the first, identical, in fact, to all. In the entrance way hangs a mirror, which faithfully duplicates appearances. People often infer from this mirror that the library is not infinite.
If it really were, what need would there be for that illusory duplication? I prefer to dream that the burnished surfaces are a figuration and promise of the infinite. I love that guy. File this set under G155.A1P547.
[RADISH, "LITTLE PINK STARS"]
That was "Little Pink Stars" by Radish, which could also be rad-ish, ish-rad? No. A song about thoroughly experiencing a place.
[TELEVISION, "FRICTION"]
This is Lost in the Stacks. And in our show today, we're speaking with Jason Wright, director of communications at the Georgia Tech Library in our first chapter of The Georgia Tech Library Guidebook. So at the very top of the interview, we asked you about leading a library tour. And what goes into that?
When you're deciding you're going to lead someone around and tell that library story that you talked about, what do you think about when you're thinking about what you're going to include, what you're going to leave out?
Sure thing. Absolutely. It's all audience based. Sorry, it's all audience based. So if I have young people, the very first thing I do is I take them to the seventh floor.
What are we defining as young people here?
So middle schoolers, high schoolers, incoming students. CHARLIE BENNETT: Actual young people. Yeah, yeah, yeah. The first thing I do is I take them to the seventh floor, to the terraces out there, because it's the perfect place to get a selfie, right? So I'm like, OK, everybody, let's go up to the top. Go get your selfies. Make sure you tag us in it when you put it on social media. So that's the number one thing that I take any young person. Now, if it's-- sorry, I keep hitting the mic.
If it's like an architecture tour, I will show them, I mean, just weird little things, like the fact that the travertine is original as you go through the building. And I'm like--
That's like the rock that's kind of on the side of the walls.
The kind of porous rock, right? Yeah.
And I take them. And when we begin in Price Gilbert on the first floor, it's the perfect example of Paul Heffernan, who had traveled extensively in Europe and brought with him that kind of Bauhaus style to America. And so it was a really early mid-century, modern building in America, being '52, right after the war. And so architectural people are like, yeah, it's interesting. And it also it explains a lot about-- a lot of light coming in. They just--
Apologies to all of our architect listeners.
Yeah, but they had just won World War II. It's a very hopeful building. But then by the time you get to Crosland Tower in 1968--
Brutalism.
It's brutalism. It's a nuclear fallout shelter, 100%. Yes. And so I think that's an interesting and emblematic of the times in which they were built, the colloquialisms of the architecture. But then if it's incoming students, I always take them by-- I already mentioned it, but retroTECH. Also, if I can tell if they are someone who went to Georgia Tech, I always take them by retroTECH, too, because they always go in there, and they go, oh my god, a Selectric typewriter.
Or they go, oh man, I've got an old Mac in my garage. Do you guys want it? And I'm like, here's Dr. Henry. Talk to him. The archives reading room is another great example because we've got all the old blueprints in there. So they can go through and find their senior picture, which is always a great thing. And then taking them through the multimedia spaces is always really popular, too, especially the audio and video recording studios, because they look exactly like what you would expect.
And they include a whisper booth that has mics like these. They've got Blackmagic cameras. And I say things to try and connect to them. So if it's an older audience, I'm like, you can pretty much do Saturday Night Live from there.
That would resonate with me.
Yeah, right? Or news. You can do news from there.
I think you're older folks, right?
Yeah, I think I was the target audience for that one.
Yeah, yeah, Yeah. Or you can do the news from there and stuff, things that don't require-- like, you can cut between multiple cameras, but you're not filming beforehand. But you can do stuff like that in there. And they tend to think that's pretty cool. And then-- like I said, so for younger people. And then I make sure to always show them in our popular reading how we've got tons of manga. And we've got lots of whatever the new release, kind of cool thing that came out, I show them that.
And I show them stuff, things that they wouldn't necessarily think that we have, too, like romance novels that are friendly to the spectrum of human sexuality and things like that, just to try and connect to them, meet them where they are. I mean, that's like a primary thing that you do in PR.
Yeah. It's so interesting that-- I had an idea of what we would talk about. It wasn't connected to this. But this is a really interesting conversation to follow in the future, that there's a lens not only that we look at the library through, but everybody who comes in there has a different lens. And matching the narrative of what you're showing is almost more important than what it is in particular. You're not going to not show people the video recording studio.
You're going to show it to them and then explain it in a language that they can understand or something like that. Yeah. JASON WRIGHT: Well, and the thing is, it's not like I nailed this the first time. It just has taken-- it's almost like a stand-up act. You go through with a bunch of different types of crowds. And you're like, OK. And you kind of feel them out beforehand, talking to them before you go up. And of course, I ask, what are you interested in? What would you like to see?
So coming into the end of the segment, what are you interested in? Do you have a favorite space in the library?
Yeah, so I would say my favorite space right now, something I'm working on a lot, is the interactive Media Zone.
Oh, your baby.
Yes, yes, yes, which is down on Grove level of Price Gilbert in that kind of liminal space between Price Gilbert and Crosland, right behind Blue Donkey, or Blonky, as the students like to call it. I'm seeing that a lot.
I'm so old. I'm so old. I am so old.
I'm writing that down.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. They love Blonky. So essentially what it is, it's a giant digital canvas. It can do a bunch of different things. It can run these really big, beautiful kind of ambient art pieces, which is what I'm using it for right now. Our first artist-- our artist in resident is going to be the first one to use it. So that's Bojana Ginn. She's going to be able to use--
She will be on the show in just a month.
OK, perfect. She's going to do a true multimedia with figural sculptures and digital aspects of it. And then there's also an interactive exhibit aspect of it, so to take the things that we have up in the exhibit gallery, so like that Dataseum. But right now, l we have on there is 50 years of Title IX. So it's kind of like being at a children's museum. You walk up. You can touch the screen. You can move through the different stuff.
And I'm getting it to a place where it's stable and can run for everybody right now. And it's just working out the kinks because it's brand new. CHARLIE BENNETT: So it's clear, even if I want to talk about some physical space in the building, it's going to be digital, too. Phygital.
Oh my god.
And I'm going to thank Ameet for that one, too, because he introduced that into my lexicon, the physical and digital space, the phygital space. CHARLIE BENNETT: Thank you, Ameet.
Thank you. CHARLIE BENNETT: Wherever you might be.
Princeton. Princeton, New Jersey. He's up there.
Oh, I know.
He got his elbow patches.
That was just a minor little threat I was sending out to him.
This is Ameet's co-creation, Lost in the Stacks. And our guest today is Jason Wright, director of communications at the Georgia Tech Library, helping us launch our new series, The GT Library Guidebook. Thank you, Jason, for being on the show. JASON WRIGHT: Absolutely, thank you. Can I do my radio voice? CHARLIE BENNETT: Yeah, here you go. Why don't you file the set with your radio voice.
Welcome back to WREK 91.1, the buzz, here with DJ and the scuzz. File this set under Z716.4.A84.
I love that it challenges the voice so much, you can't keep it going.
Rock Block Weekend.
[DRUG CHRUCH, "BUT DOES IT WORK?"]
[THE WEDDING PRESENT, "DARE"]
That was "Dare" by The Wedding Present, and before that, "But Does It Work?" by Drug Church. Those are songs about learning how something works by being there and trying it out.
Good strategy.
[ROCK MUSIC]
Today's show was called The GT Library Guidebook. And I think to finish up, we should call out some spaces in the library we'd love to show to visitors. Mine, or one of mine, is the lobby when you come in from Bobby Dodd, which has the artwork watermark on the windows. And it gets flooded with colors when the sun hits it just right. Fred?
Well, Jason already mentioned that this happens to him. But it happens to me as well when I show people around. I like all the, oh yeah, I remember that, reactions when I show a guest retroTECH, all the PCs and video game systems in there. Yeah. Marlee?
I really enjoy the moment of calm that descends on the group when we exit the seventh-floor elevators, and we're facing the reading room. It's a wonderful moment. But my personal favorite place is the old Price Gilbert stairs, that hospital green. I love them. How about you, Jason?
Let's see. I already said-- how about-- I like just the visual cacophony of popular reading, just looking at all of it at once. And, Cody, how about you?
Well, I love the seventh floor. The only thing that I love more than the seventh floor is the rooftop garden on Clough because you get to still be amongst the trees. You still have access to the Wi-Fi. And you get to still see the views of the city and the campus. So it's like all one for me there. CHARLIE BENNETT: And, Jason, we're calling the Clough Library? Is that right?
It's the Clough Undergraduate Learning Commons. It is connected to the library. They're both open all the time. The library runs it. But it has its own Clough partners. It's a complicated--
Good enough. Roll the credits.
[ELECTRONIC MUSIC]
MARLEE GIVENS: Lost in the Stacks is a collaboration between WREK Atlanta and the Georgia Tech Library, written and produced by Alex McGee, Charlie Bennett, Fred Rascoe, and Marlee Givens. Legal counsel and a series of very brand-effective selfies were provided by the Burrus Intellectual Property Law Group in Atlanta, Georgia.
Special thanks to Jason for being on the show, to everyone who ever gave a tour of the Georgia Tech Library. And thanks, as always, to each and every one of you for listening.
Our web page is library.gatech.e du/lostinthestacks, where you'll find our most recent episode, a link to our podcast feed, and a web form, if you want to get in touch with us.
On next week's show, we will talk to Georgia Tech's metadata librarian. And don't call her a cataloger.
It is time for our last song today. I don't know if you all were aware of this, but our guest, Jason Wright, is not only a wealth of PR and marketing ideas for the library. He's got music ideas as well. He suggested all the songs we played today.
There was a different tone today, Fred.
That's why. I could finagle most of the songs that he suggested to fit the themes of the day. This last one, though, that I've got about to play, I'm having some trouble with. It's a song called "Kagemni" by Jex Thoth. They were called Totem at first. But yeah, they're called Jex Thoth now. And the title refers to, I believe, an Egyptian tomb. I think it does. And the lyrics are about things like birds falling out of the sky and disaster striking. I don't know. We're talking about library tours.
How do we fit that in to the theme of the day? Any ideas? Anyone?
I got it. So it's an idea of a space provided by something that was one way and now is another.
Oh, that's very good. Anyone else?
I didn't know about that Totem, Jex Toth thing. I found Totem is the album. This is amazing.
We're going to go with what Charlie said?
Yeah.
Mm-hmm.
OK. Yeah, sounds good then. OK. Well, then what Charlie said. And this is "Kagemni" by Totem, now Jex Thoth-- Toss, Thoth, I don't know-- right here on Lost in the Stacks. Have a great weekend, everyone.
Trying to beat the end of the credits roll.
Jason, these songs that you gave us, my goodness.
[JEX THOTH, "KAGEMNI"]