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You are Locked On Bengals, your daily Cincinnati Bengals podcast, part of the Locked On Podcast Network, Your Team every Day. One Up, Bengals fans, and welcome to another episode of the Lockdown Bengals Podcast. I'm your host Jake Lisco, He's your host James Rapine. We're part of the Lockdown podcast network here on Lockdown Bengals, covering your team every day, on YouTube or anywhere you get your podcasts. We appreciate all of you who are every days
and everyone who makes us their first listen. Today's episode brought to you by the Game Time app. You can use promo code Lockdown NFL for twenty dollars off your first tickets first purchase of last minute tickets for the lowest price guaranteed. And James, let's start with some injury notes. Since the last time we talked, it was confirmed the DJ Reader has the torn quad tendon. He will not be turning this year. DJ Ivy has the ACL injury.
Really unfortunate for those guys. Hate to see it for both of those guys. Obviously, DJ Reader, we talked about the contract year, all the things that go with that. Ivy seventh round pick coming into his own. But Jamar Chase has a chance to play this week after what was described as an AC joint injury. And so a few different big injuries to talk about there, yeah, none bigger than DJ Readers. It's awful and it's it's hard to see the path to them figuring out how to replace him, and
I've been kind of racking on Brian my mind around different ideas. You mentioned tr Tart the other day. Who knows, As we record this, we'd all know what's going to happen with him. Will he get claimed, will he not? Will he become a free agent? I don't know, But I think the answer is that you can't replace him, and that you're gonna have a bunch of guys that are going to try to make up for it, and Luien Arumo is gonna have to find the right mix, the right
cocktail to figure that out. Because if I'm the Steelers today, guess what I'm attacking the middle of that defense and it's up to Zach Carter and Sam Hubbard. Maybe move Sam inside a little bit more, even though they haven't, especially with Miles coming on, but maybe that's maybe this is the perfect time to do that. Miles Murphy's coming on, some move Sam inside some
that. I mean, that's that seems like the best option to me, But who knows, because he's still not going to be DJ Reader and you're not gonna be able to do it as much as you would have Reader on the field anyway. So I think it'll be a mixture of things that could could include potentially an outside edition, could include internal guys, practice squad guys. I know Dominique Davis is a fan favorite from the preseason, but there's
no making up for the loss of DJ Reader and it just sucks. And even if Sam Hubbard is playing more inside, like you said, I mean, that's totally different positions and a difference of at least sixty pounds if not
more between those two guys. I mean, Sam Hubbard great edge run defender, but that's pretty different from taking on a garden a center or a gardener tackle on a double team and splitting a double team or anchoring against a double team, and you know, different stuff we're talking about for those two positions.
To your point, though, just as a matter of curiosity, Sam Hubbard is played and this is a generous count a position that isn't outside the right tackle of the opposing offense twenty times this year out of six hundred snaps. So for all we've talked about, getting Miles Murphy on the field more, Sam hobb moving inside, more, all this stuff, they don't do it. Sam Hobbard continues to play the left defensive end position, and they
continue to try different guys with BJ Hill in those third down packages. Last week it was Cam Sample and maybe Miles Murphy should be on the field more because he has been the team's second best pass rusher in terms of actually creating. DJ Reader while he was playing was a great pocket pusher and they're going to have to replace that too, And maybe BJ Hill continues to step up
and what has been a late season surge there. But what is more concerning than those aspects of pass rushing aspect is definitely how they're going to deal with the run game. The splits with DJ Reader on and off the field over the last few years have been stark. The Bengals run defense, even with
DJ Reader has struggled this year without him. It's hard to imagine it getting better without throwing more resources at it, which makes you more vulnerable in other ways, which we saw last week with like the play action dump off to the running back in the flat where the Bengals have to sell out on the run and then they get an explosive play on a little play action flat.
So something has to improve there or something will give without DJ. But we'll see what happens, right this is going to be more playing time for Zach Carter. Probably means J two fell at least in the short term, is active, and maybe Dominique Davis as well, Right, and those guys will have to play better, and we've seen them playing better. They're part of a group that has stepped up a little bit in the Jake Grounding era in
particular. But losing DJ Reader obviously hard to understate or overstate, hard to overstate the impact of that loss for this team and is something they'll have to overcome down the stretch in addition to potentially Jamar Chase injuries. So if you're talking about Jamar missing time and DJ missing time, you've already lost Joe Burrow
for the season. How much can this team take and overcome when you're talking about three of their best best players that make the team go potentially missing time down the stretch, Jamar is it's hard to figure out a path to them being able to overcome this without Jamar. Now, maybe it's just one game and then say you can make that case, but I mean over the next three weeks, because we'll go over it in the playoff scenarios. Yeah, they won this week and they're in if it ended today, but there the
road is not over. They need to win and keep winning. And having Jamar out there, we know what he does, the impact he has, and so hopefully he can give it a go. Even if he's seventy percent, hopefully he can give it a go. It's that time of year, as unfortunate as it is to play injured or play hurt. If he can do it, they need him, and they need him because they're already shorthanded and you can only do so much when you're You're a team that's relying on
these guys to make plays. And T. Higgins came up big, and I have no doubt that he can continue to come up big. But it's not just that. It's the ripple effect that not having Jamar has. So now t is double team and it's Trenton Irwin one on one on a guy to have it play instead of Tyler Boyd or instead of T. Higgins, and that makes it tough. So hopefully Jamar can be out there. We'll see. We won't know more until the Bengals practice on Tuesday afternoon and that
practice report comes out. But having Jamar, I'm not saying it's a must because I've seen this team overcome. I do think it's a must for them to make the playoffs over the next three weeks. I don't think you can go three games without Jamar, and I don't think it's going to be that Zach Taylor said it was day to day, but I don't think you can overcome it. So how much is too much? I think that is too
much over three games. If it's one who knows, maybe they could go to Pittsburgh and win with the weird quarterback saga that will get to coming up in a bit that's going on right now in the Steel City. Yeah,
it's the compound effect of Burrow reader Chase. I mean, the defensive side of the ball is still going to have to be a team effort, but also Cam Taylor, Britt and another guy that we haven't mentioned gonna miss at least another week before he's eligible to return for week seventeen, which is the earliest he can return, and if he's ready to go at that point, yeah, they're gonna have to have guys step up, and we'll see about Jamar. There is a chance that he plays this week. It wasn't the
worst news that it could have been. And when Zach says somebody is day to day, that that is notably different from when Zach says somebody is weak to week, and that means they're not going to be back imminently. But with mar Chase, I think there's a chance. You mentioned, by the way, Trent Irwin instead of Jamar Chase. It is worth pointing out that andre Yosavash did out snap Trent Irwin last week by eight So eighteen to ten point still stands. Ye, yeah, I know you, I know,
you know, but like it's still the ripple effect. Even though I like I like Yoshi and I think he can make plays. It's just a lot to ask. That's all. Incidentally, just while I'm looking at this, and then we'll move on. Charlie Jones. Also, he had three charge last week. He got two of them. One of them could have been a touchdown. We've talked about that play. He had four snaps on offense and he had three targets, all three of the passing place he was on
the field for he was targeted. How about that for volume per snap? Sure? Charlie Jones coming up next. The playoff picture is currently Rosie for the Cincinnati Bengals, but when you look forward it does. As you mentioned, James get murky. This team needs to continue to win. We'll talk about that playoff picture coming up next. Today's episode is sponsored by game Time. Game Time knows that if you want tickets for the Bengals last home game
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We know the Bengals drive for perfection. Shultz Stroulers does too, because when it has to be perfect, it has to be Shultz Stroulers. Let's talk playoff scenarios. James and Bengals have done their job the last three weeks to stay squarely in this conversation. Three weeks ago, when the Bengals on of their first game with Jake Browning, I asked a question on this podcast,
should we be talking about the playoffs? And we said at the time maybe if they win a couple more games, and they have won a couple more games, we can really dig into it. And as of today, regardless of what happens in an NFC matchup on Monday Night Football, the Cincinnati
Bengals are the sixth seed in the AFC. A lot can change. A lot can change when you look at the schedules of the teams that are competing with the rest of the way a lot can and it stinks because a lot of things didn't go their way, and it looked like they were going to the bear stink justin fields. How about your make a play and they they blow that game. Sure it shouldn't come down to that, but yeah, Darnell Mooney, Jake Lisko would have caught that one. Darnell, what are
you doing so? I mean, you're literally laying on your back like our listeners. Catch that ball. It's the easiest catch ever. Anyways, Instead he kicked it. Soccer player kicked it into the air and it was intercepted. Anyways, it seemed like any game that was going to go against what the Bengals needed did outside of the Ravens, I guess ending the Bengals AFC
North chances. They weren't winning the division anyway, so who cares? But sort of helping you want the Jags to slide back and not win that AFC South. That would help if the Texans could emerge in the South. But it's a tight race and the easiest thing. And I get why Zach Taylor is saying this because if I was in that locker room, I wouldn't really be looking at the scenarios. I'd be saying, all right, we just got to win, because if you don't win, someone's going to pass you.
It's guaranteed. And so you just got to find a way to keep winning. And they've done that over the past three weeks to their credit, and it has to continue on Saturday. Yeah, the muddled middle of the AFC right now, of so many teams in such similar situations. I was looking at this last night, and the path I'm not saying this is likely per se, but it is certainly possible. The path to five plus teams in the AFC being ten and seven is wide open. Buffalo needs two wins
out of their last three they finished ten and seven. Cleveland just needs one win out of their last three to get to ten and seven. Houston two wins get seed to ten and seven. Indy needs two wins to get to ten and seven. Denver needs to win all three to get to ten and seven. Cincinnati, of course, needs two wins to get to ten and seven as well. You could see five plus teams at ten and seven. Not saying it's likely to happen, but you could see it. It's well
within the realm of possibility that this could happen. Of course, likely some of these teams win more or less games than exactly the amount of games they need to get to ten and seven. But if that were to happen, the tiebreakers are not good for the Bengals because all these head to head tiebreakers that you would think would be good for them with these teams in the playoff race, really talking about Indie and Jacksonville wouldn't matter. It'll come down to
conference record or it'll come down to division record. And with these teams, if the Bengals aren't a tie with them at ten and seven, they almost certainly lose those tiebreakers. So to your point talking about what Zach Taylor said about not looking at the scenarios, One, they're incredibly complicated with three weeks to play and the amount of things that can happen in three weeks, be it injuries, upsets, whatever it is that totally change our perception of the
Bengals road hypothetical road to the playoffs or potential road to the playoffs. One. A lot can change too. It's unpredictable. Three, Like you said, if they just win, that's the simplest way from a math perspective, From a playoff scenario perspective, it's also the hardest way because they have to win all their games. Simple, not always easy, but from a perspect from a scenario perspective, yeah, the easiest way to sort it all out
is just go win. And who I really don't remember a playoff race like this one where there were so many teams in the mix. I mean, we're twenty four hours are moved from Aaron Rodgers saying he could still play, which is the first off, the dumbest thing ever because the Jets were never making the playoffs and I'm glad that's over. But it's just crazy that there are so many teams in the mix. I think I will say this, there aren't many teams that make the playoffs despite being one and five in the
division. And if the Bengals win the next two, they could realistically get in with ten wins, which I've said ten wins is your goal, but that's still weird to me. And yet there's an actual chance where that is the case, where that Cleveland game could not matter. Maybe you drop Pittsburgh and then you win the next two and you get into the playoffs with a one in five record in the ANFC North. It's it's just really weird, and I think that kind of tells the story as much as anything. Ideally,
you would obviously be two and four in the AFC North. Handle business against the Browns, handle business against the Steelers and give yourself a chance to beat up Taylor Swift Kansas City Chiefs on New Year's Eve. But even if they are too and four in the division, if division tiebreakers come up, they lose all of them. So you need the wins, but sure then to the tie breakers, and then two and four is if it comes up not good enough. If you beat the Steelers, they're done, eliminated,
and they're eliminated, really no doubt in their heads. They're thinking, let's win out, maybe we have a shot, But you beat them on Saturday, you end it. And that's why I think this game is going to be really tough. The Steelers have their backs against the wall and it's it's
it or nothing, and we're going to go over in a second. They're shorthanded like the Bengals, They're going to be dealing with some injuries that are important, and I think that also is another reason why it would be really nice to have Jamar Chase on the field on Sunday, Jacob or Saturday Saturday. These Saturday games are making me angry on Saturday, the last one. It's just natural to say Sunday. I don't mind games being on Saturday, but uh, it's weird. It's weird. I kind of mind, just
like a little bit, it's weird football should be on Sunday. We don't need to get into that too much here. The head to head tiebreakers, by the way I mentioned, they don't necessarily matter. They could come up, and so the fact that the Bengals did beat the Colts, the Bills, the Jaguars, if it does come down to head to head tiebreakers, that's great. And like you said, James, you want to avoid the head to head tiebreaker with the Texans. So there are scenarios where those games
couldn't matter. So I don't want people to think that those head to head tiebreakers don't matter at all. For example, right now, the reason the Bengals are the sixth seed in a conference with five teams at eight and six. Jacksonville currently leading their division, the AFC South, with two other teams in the AFC South at eight and six is because as of today, having the head to head tiebreakers over Buffalo and Indy put them at six instead of
out of the playoffs. Because they do matter in the scenario that is occurring in this filment today, but they don't necessarily matter at the end of the season depending on how things go, which is perhaps why talking about the specific scenarios is a little premature. The Steelers have announced a quarterback change. We will talk about that and what that could mean for this game to finish the show coming up next. Today's show is brought to you by LinkedIn Jobs.
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up. So if you're wondering why we're not talking more about what the Bengals did after Djvead left the game on the interior defensive line, or how they adapted when Jamar Chase left the game and they still manage to get that when we'll cover some of those topics in addition to how this was different and how maybe some of the previous declarations or distinctions between the Browning offense and the Borough
offense have been a little overstated. We'll have time to get to that this week, but today some drama in Pittsburgh and some of this is about the quarterback position, but there's even more since we started recording this episode that we'll talk I got you as well. But where we're going to start is Mason Rudolph will start at quarterback for the Pittsburgh Steelers if Kenny Pickett is not available. But Mike Tomlin did leave the door open for Kenny Pickett this week.
It seems like a long shot today, we'll see. Obviously, a lot can change between now and Saturday. The previous reporting was that they were hopeful to get him back for Seattle and that would be next week, but Tomlin did say that he would categorize Pickett as questionable this week. The bigger note is that they are done with the Mitchell Trubisky experience and are going back to the Mason Rudolph experience, which does doesn't seem to offer much greener pastures.
But that's where the Steelers are right now. Quick story. Once upon a time, a general manager named Sashi Brown, who was no longer in the NFL, wanted the draft Mitch Trubisky to the Cleveland Browns number one over onstead of Miles Garrett. I wish he would have done it. Yeah, it's gonna be Mason Rudolph. And if it isn't Kenny Pickett, which is weird. The whole thing's weird. If I was Mike Tomlin, I would have
left it wide open and just said that Pickett was questionable. Instead he says, oh, no, Mason's the starter and then Picket's questionable, and that's literally how it went in his news conference. So we'll see the other injuries of note, and this is why it would be mighty mighty nice to have that man. Jamar Chase with t Higgins is Miga. Fitzpatrick is out for
Saturday's game, will not play. That's huge. And Demante Kazi CAZy, I think it's CAZy was suspended as well for without pay for the rest of the season following a hit that he had in the Colts game against Michael Pittman Junior. So that just came out a few minutes ago as we recorded this on Monday afternoon. That's a big deal. I think not having those two guys because their backs are against the wall. And I think that's why pick
it is questionable because if they lose this game, it's over. If he can give it a go, why not get your best option out there on the field, which he clearly is their best option. At QB and Mason Rudolph isn't good, but it's Rudolph time, baby, Come on, Rudolph. He's two and oh against the Bengals. I looked at that. We've seen the Bengals have issues a backup quarterbacks, but they've won two in a row against backup quarterbacks that are now starting for their respective teams. He's also
two and zero against the twenty nineteen team. That's where he got his two wins. His second win against the Bengals, it was sixteen to ten, by the way, ugly game in twenty nineteen. He was eight of sixteen in that game against that Bengals defense. Against that Bengals defense in twenty nineteen. Yeah, the Bengals and Steelers playing an ugly game in twenty nineteen,
though, like you couldn't beat up on that defense, Mason. I mean, well, and there's an opportunity against this defense too, as we've seen Nick Mullens just beat up on this defense. Given there is a Justin Jefferson on that offense and a much better offensive line on that offense, and Nick Mullens is probably honestly a better option than Mason Rudolph. But that doesn't mean Mason Rudolph can't go out there and make plays. We've seen it happen before.
We've seen the Mike White experience, and we've seen what Jake Browning has done, frankly, coming out of nowhere to play pretty good football the last three weeks and certainly good enough for the Bengals to win. But without Demontekzi or CAZy, I'm not sure how that name is pronounced either. Make offense Patrick. This defense for the Steelers is Joey Porter junior in the secondary, a late career Patrick Peterson and some backup safeties. There's certainly some vulnerabilities in
that secondary at that point. There's a vulnerability at quarterback, even if Kenny Pickett plays. Quite frankly, no matter who plays quarterback for the Steelers is vulnerability at quarterback. And you're talking about a team that TJ. Watt, Alex Heismith, Cam Hayward and friends. And that's what the Steelers are, I mean the Steelers. Chris Carter on Lockdown Steelers just been an episode talking about has forward with and without Mike Tomlin and potential head coach replacements, Like
that's where the Steelers are right now. When Mike Tomlin's in danger with a bad team of going under five hundred, potentially for the first time ever. And I mean there's a little bit of concern about Mike tomlin voodoo magic at this point the season, threatening to not go over five hundred or at least five hundred, threatening to have a losing season for the first time in his career, that it's about time for that Mike Tomlin voodoo magic to kick in.
But these absences and changes on the Steelers secondary and on the stea at the Steelers quarterback position could certainly be impactful here as we look at this game early in the week. Yeah, it could. And it's just a reminder. You're right, it's such a week to week league. I think the Vikings element of this, let's just use that as bad as the Steelers as
it feels for the Steelers right now. The Vikings had won three to nothing, and they beat the Raiders three nothing, and then the Raiders came out and did what on Thursday Night Football the Bengals, it felt like it was over after losing to the Steelers team and since then they've won three games in twelve days and they're right back in the thick of the playoff race, So
I expect Saturday to be a heck of a game. It's going to be a tough one, and it's one that I'm excited to track Jamar Chase's injury. Hopefully he can bounce back and be healthy enough to play and cover it this week ahead of the game. It should be a good one. Hopefully Jake brown gives us one or two more one liners. That you saw the video right the Bengals released it. That's the best video I've ever seen in
my life. Hyped, I mean the best. The helmet toss, the fact that the Bengals added the audio behind it just for dramatic effect, just staring into the camera. I love it. And you better believe you're going to see that plenty before their game on Saturday. I'm sure the Bengals have already sent the footage to NFL Films. And the confidence of Jake Browning has
showed up in these games against the Vikings. It was late in the game, it was after he played a pretty bad two and a half quarters, after he threw a really really bad interception, and then he came out and was on fire down the stretch, making difficult plays down the field, still had a lot of passes out behind the line of scrimmage. It turned out. I was surprised at the volume of adder behind line of scrimmage passes for
Browning in that game, but was way better throwing down the field. And that confidence is something that he'll need going against the Pittsburgh team that handled him the last time these teams played, and he'll need to play better. Hopefully the experience the game has slowed down for him a little bit. Hopefully after four games of starting in the NFL and having seen this defense before settling into an offense that doesn't feature nearly as much empty Hopefully these things can help this
time around. The last note that I'll throw out there, you're talking about it being a week to week league. One of the factors that I know both of those games were at home minute for Las Vegas going three zero, then sixty three twenty one. But the home road splits in the NFL this year I was looking at earlier today and they are dramatic for a number of teams, notably the Cleveland Browns were one of them. The Cleveland Browns at home this year haven't lost and on the road are two and four, and
that is one of the one of the Bengals remaining games. Of course, Vegas another one that is very interesting and is related to the Bengals playoff push, as it were five and three at home versus one five on the road. The most relevant game in that regard for the Bengals is that that Week eighteen game for Vegas is Denver in Vegas, where Vegas plays much better. Certainly not a team that has been good this year, but a team that
has been much better at home. So just some interesting things on the home road splits. We'll see how that plays out for the Bengals here down the stretch as well, with two straight road games Pittsburgh Kansas City before returning home for the finale against the Cleveland team that has been very bad on the road. A lot of things in the air, from injuries, home road splits, unpredictability of the week to week nature of the NFL in the first place,
and the quarterback situation in Pittsford. Should be an interesting week. Like I said, tomorrow, we're going to spend one more day on the Vikings game and what film takeaways we have to talk about. Both from individuals to scheme, and then we'll get into our first look at the Steelers contest with Chris Carter before our game preview later this week. So until them, thanks for listening to this episode of the Lockdown Bengals podcast. Who Day and Having
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