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the Lockdown Bengals podcast. I'm Jake. Let's go, joined today by Mike Santagata app Bengals Underscore Sands to talk about the top defensive tackles in the twenty twenty four draft class. If you're new to the Lockdown Bengals podcast, yesterday we talked about what the early tag means for t Higgins and what's going on with the Bengals salary cap with the two hundred and fifty five million dollars salary cap announcement from the That episode available to you on YouTube and any view anywhere
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guys. And one interesting thing to me, at least as we start this conversation is the guy that we seem to be higher on so far is a guy that has been increasingly projected as a faller and we know he's not actually going to test in Indianapolis. And that's Johnny Newton, the three tech from Illinois, the defensive tackle from Illinois. So we're going to go through some scouting reports and strengths, weaknesses, and some takeaways from watching their tape.
That's where we're going to start, Mike, and I believe he is your top tackle in this draft class. Correct, definitely my top tackle. What is it that makes buy or not buy Ram Murphy. We're gonna talk about him later. Johnny Newton your top tackle. So I think as a pass rusher he has it's a little bit inconsistent sometimes with his recognition of when the ball is snap, but he has a good get off, and that's gonna be We're gonna talk about Newton too. We're gonna talk about Murphy too.
Oh goodness, were good to confused Murphy too. Murphy's got that too. But what Newton presents is some refined tools to not only win with his get off, but to beat the hands, beat the man on the to the inside or the outside. I mean, he's got quite a few moves, but the most I saw was a swipe and a club or a swim move in there. Try to disengage and come completely clean to get a hit on the quarterback. So you've got those, and then he can also bull us
through the offensive lineman. And then when you talk about that, you're talking inside, outside, and through a guy as a pass rusher. That's you know, that's what you're looking for. You're looking for a way to beat the guy in front of you all three ways. That becomes when it's really difficult to block those guys. And Newton, to me, I didn't see. I know there's arm length questions with him. I saw it a little bit more in the run game than I saw it in the past game.
And I also think to go with those moves he sets them up well, some stutters, some hesitations, some jabs, not too much, not that he never just rushes ahead and tries to win around the outsider through a guy, But it feels to me as if I was a guard, he would be the hardest to block in a pass situation, just because he has all these refined moves already. And I think he's only still twenty one years old, so he's not an older prospect that's refined. Yeah, we've got him
at around twenty one and a half when the draft rolls around. He's a junior, so still a younger guy, still has room for development, room for growth. Listed at six two two ninety five, So those measurements in the arm length like you mentioned, are going to be critical for him, I think in terms of how he's perceived in terms of a first round prospect
or a fringe first round prospect. And there's obviously a type of player there, right, that's your penetrating three at tech who's going to try to shoot gaps. That's your Geno Akins size guy that you're hoping can be a Geno Atkins type player. Are there similarities from a play style perspective? From a traits perspective between Newton and Atkins, I think so, but I get a
little nervous about that. You know, the Hall of Fame type of player I liked because Geno was always low, and I know Newton has some that natural leverge at six foot two. It reminds me of a little bit more of a Javon Hargrave who gets a little high in the run game, who can get swallowed up in the run game more than Atkins could. Atkins, it felt like, didn't really have any issues against the run, where it
feels like Newton, not that he's terrible against the run. He can lock guys out, crossface shed, all that stuff kind of translates over but just at times guys that are really long can kind of swallow him up and he can kind of get high out of his stance. And he does that on his bull rush too sometimes where he just gets high right out of his stance. It just SAPs all of his power because now he's not playing with the
proper leverage. So I do see some layers with Atkins being a penetrating three tech having all these moves to win around guys and through them, but actually kind of like the slightly lower version of Javon Hargrave, who Bagels fans me included wanted last year in free agency and was a top defensive tackle on the free agent market. But yeah, I just think some of the pad level stuff and some of the run game stuff makes him feel a little bit less
like Geno to me. But maybe that's me putting Gino on a pedestal because I thought he was awesome. And from an alignment perspective, are you seeing mostly three tech alignments from Newton? I'm just looking at his data over at PFF. It looks like there's a lot of four I or even head up on tackles as well. In the profile. Is he a guy that you see as versatile in terms of where you could put him. Is he a guy that you're ever putting in that Chris Jones role and saying, hey,
you've got a bad right tackle. I'm going to go put Chris Jones over Hakeemid energy in the clutch. Is that something that you think is part of his game? I definitely think he I mean three tech to four eyes even head up, that's fine to me. That's almost all the same position for the most part. Yeah, Yeah, but going outside to end I could
see it a little bit. I think that the length hurts him. I think when you're talking about tackles are really that's where you know if he faces and he faced Fashu a few times in the Penn State game, it just felt like Fashu's length was a deterrent for him just being able to get hands on him first and kind of stall his rush out. So that would be what would stop me. I don't think that other than that there's a reason he couldn't do it. But I think of him more as just kind of
a B gap player. So when you're thinking about what makes a first round grade happen for Newton, when you're thinking about why he's your top rated tackle, what traits really speak to you and elevate him into that top spot. When you're evaluating this year's class, which we know we're all looking at because of Ben have a need there. Yeah, I think it's a combination of the athleticism age and then refinement, especially as a pass rusher. I don't
think he's bad on rundowns. I feel like I haven't praised him enough there. He does his job, especially upper body strength, walk guys out and
whatever. But what makes him my top tackle is just not only is he athletic and young, but he's got some of that refinement to his game where I think day one he could be a plus pass rusher and maybe he won't be a plus run defender yet, but I think the potential is there to be a good run defender, and the most important thing for the Bengals, in my opinion, might be the pass rush from this three tech position, because I kind of have the more run defending three tech in bj Hill now
nose tackle, I would be much more worried about his ability to defend the run. But with him being a three tech and what they've been missing since Larry Ogunjobi, it feels like he could be a better version of Ogunjobi year one, and that's something that they have missed sorely since Ogunjobi left. Certainly a name that we're going to be watching. He should have a pro day
closer to the draft. I think we will get testing for him. I think that will be important and if he tests really well, then that's where you can project the athleticism forward too. You can project the strength for because when you think about a guy like Gino, it was really the strength for
him that separated him. Like he had the quickness, he could cross your face, he could shoot a gap, but he also could just walk you back into your quarterback and use you as a projectile to tackle your quarterback. And that's a pretty uncomfortable place to be for an into your alignement. So I know you talked about the strength. He had a great pass rush win rate according to PFF, fifteen point four percent puts him in like the ninety
fifth plus percentile, seventy fifth percentile plus run stop rate as well. So some of the data really strong for him as well. And it's not like Illinois is this powerhouse of a football program and in the Big Ten you're you're generally facing a AFC North style of football, but worse because it's the Big
Ten. Last question, real quick, on a scale of Zach Carter to Geno Watkins, where do you rank where would you rate the strength and the functional power for jun Newton Johnny Newto Yeah, h definitely definitely higher than the first name, but he's not at Atkins level. I do think as a pass rush he prefers to win inside outside. It could be violently, but he prefers to win inside outside rather than through a guy, through a guy's
kind of his secondary. So I think it's like a seven point five in that it's pretty good, still well above average, you know, seventy fifth percentile strength. You take that. Coming up next, let's talk about some of the other defensive tackles in this class. We'll talk about those Texas boys Bira Murphy to Vandre Sweat, a couple of very different style of players coming up next. This show is sponsored by Better Help. A lot of us
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dot com. Slash lockdown today to get ten percent off your first month. That's better Help. HLP dot com slash locked on Mike. Let's go Byron Murphy next, Texas interior defensive lineman, who is up to twelfth on the PFF Big Board, and I think by consensus has been rising quite a bit as I think folks are talking more to NFL sources and realizing that the NFL is higher on Murphy than perhaps they were going into the Senior Bowl process.
For example, of course, Murphy wasn't at the Senior Bowl. His teammate to and Andre Sweat was, but a similar sized player, a little bit bigger but shorter, listed at six to one three oh eight, so a little bit more weight to him. About the same age for Murphy and Newton, and similar productivity, similar pass rush win rates, similar run stop rates. One of the big differences is that Texas used Bira Murphy, despite his size that you would project to be more of a three tech in the NFL.
That used him a lot. In the A gap he used him at nose tackle a lot. But let's start big picture. What are your big takeaways when you look at Bira Murphy and how far apart are you on Murphy Newton. I think with Murphy he has I think more potential than Newton, just because he does have a tiny bit more length, a little bit more
weight, and I think he's actually a little bit more athletic. So starting there, if you are just and I think some NFL teams will think this, you know, we'll get the most out of them, you know, like we don't care about the floor so much, we just care about the ceiling. I think you go with Murphy because he has the ceiling to I think be even better than Newton. It will be, and I'm pretty high in Newton's ceiling. I think that Murphy has an awesome get off of even
better get off than Newton. I think the main difference I have between the two is a little bit of refinement things and a little bit of questions with the tape two because when you talked about his A gap stuff. Well, I don't see him playing there much because to me, he wasn't doing like real good nose tackle things, and it felt more like this guy's out of position, you know, like he's getting iow State film, not he was
getting pushed around by those guys as like Iowa State guys. I don't know the center guard combo here, but how are you not able to hold up there? So like maybe we should get you off these double teams and into the B gaps where you can maybe shoot the gap a little bit, or they slanted him from the A gap, but it was just I didn't love it, especially when you have Sweat, who we'll get to, but it's three hundred and sixty pounds, like put him at nose, Like why are
we putting Murphy att nose and him at three tech? I feel like we're just I don't understand that. But the refinement thing I think shows up when you're talking about his ability to finish. He can maybe achieve the upper hand on a lot of guys, but he's not getting those hands off of him winning clean. So it might get charred as a pressure, might get charred
as a pass rush win. But to me, it's not as valuable as what Newton was able to do, where he comes completely clean and is able to put a hit on the quarterback or able to sack the quarterback or come right at him, and the quarterback knows he has to get the ball out rather than just move off of his spot or maybe have to go make something happen off script. I think run game, he's kind of similar to Newton.
I think some people have talked about his run game. His run defense is better, and I just it was weird because I was reading something with his double team, was like, yeah, he goes to a knee. I've never seen them ever made what are we talking about? I watched DJ do that four times a game. But he does that sometimes he can stay lower against those double teams. He also got moved by the double teams a lot, and he looked like a three tech trying to play nose against those
double teams. So to me, I felt like him and Newton struggled against double teams, and they were pretty good when they got soloed up and were able to lock out, cross face, shed all of those fun defensive lineman techniques. I think the main difference is he's a little bit more athletic, maybe a little bit higher potential, a little bit lower floor to me, a little bit more questions because we didn't see him exclusively at three TECH.
In fact, some games you would see him mostly at nose shade one two I wherever, just near the A gaps rather than near the B gaps. So that doesn't feel like where I would use him, and that left me
to left me with some questions too. He also played a lot less than Newton did, like he had eleven hundred career snaps roughly eleven twenty eight according to PFF's snapcounts and Gerson Newton the last two years is just two years, fourteen hundred in total in his career, well over two thousand snaps, So Newton a lot more experienced than Murphy, which is interesting. Murphy also a little bit of a late breakout from a productivity perspective, like he was a
fine player at Texas for two years. Started his career as a freshman, playing more against the run than as a pass rusher, only had eleven total pressures that year according to PFF. As a sophomore. In his second year at Texas, played a little bit more, they added one hundred snaps of workload for him. He got to rush the passer sixty times more that year than he was out there to defend the run. Ends up with twenty total pressures that year on two hundred and twenty six pass pass rushes, which is
a pretty efficient rate of getting home to the quarterback. But that's still not a ton of experience for Murphy. And then even this year as a junior plays in fourteen games, would only play as four hund and thirty eight snaps. So I guess Texas must just be incredibly deep on the defensive line.
We know that they had two guys drafted last year, for example, and we know Tavandre Sweat we're about to talk about on this defensive line as well, and they have some young and up and coming guys as well, I think, but that split really grew in favor of pass rush snaps. The growth in terms of snap count for Murphy year over year from twenty two to
twenty three was all adding pass rush snaps. And you also really saw the pressure rate take off this year for Texas, where he went from twenty pressures last year to forty five in twenty twenty three, and that comes on just fifty more or so pass rushing snaps, So you doubled the pressures on just
fifty more snaps. That's a pretty significant jump. So you did see a really significant breakout I think for Murphy as a pass rusher this year, and that still comes with one hundred and twenty seven a gap of position snaps, which I'm wondering if that's just like a weird college thing where they're doing weird stuff with their defensive lines and they're keeping him out there in passing downs but just putting him at nose and sometimes he's dealing with the run in those situations.
In Texas has a bit of a weird rotation going on. We've complained about it back and forth, like when talking about JC Latham, Like the kinds of defensive fronts that colleges are using in college offensive linemen have to face are a little bit weird. But I wonder what triggered that pass rush breakout as it were, for Murphy this year. What's his calling card? How does he most frequently win? Because the pass rush grades really high for PFF,
the pass rush win rate even higher than Newton's. He comes in just south of twenty percent, which for an interior lignement is pretty crazy, especially for a guy with as many snaps at noses he got. So how does he win as a pass rusher? Mostly to me athleticism, get off winning around, and some strengthen there too. I think he's a strong player and
turn that speed into power. But most of the time I believe that I saw him won and I watched, however, many games, So maybe there's games where he was looking like a really refined swipe and you know, rip, dip, whatever move you want to talk about. Maybe he had some of that in there, But the games I watched, it was mostly him being a better athlete and just beating a guy to his spot and being able to just rip through that or run through that contact, or maybe just bool
that outside shoulder or inside shoulder wherever he's trying to contact a guy. Also felt like, did guil little help from our guy sweat that we'll talk about with some of the stunts. I think some of those, you know sweat, it's kind of like a pick and roll basketball guy says the screen. He doesn't get any credit, so he got some open looks that way too.
I just I felt like when I watched Murphy, it actually, weirdly enough, reminded me of Murphy last year, where I'm like, yeah, there's a lot of athleticism here, there's a lot of reasons to think that the ceiling is awesome. But when you're picking at eighteen versus twenty eight, do you want the guy that's not very refined and maybe your first year you're
just going like, hey, let's just get him some experience. He should be viable out there, and then we'll get some flash plays and then year two, year three, that's when he can really come on for the team. That's interesting because of just the trends where he seems to be taking off
and on their trajectory for a lot of consensus. Borts big boards to be the number one tackle in the class for a lot of folks, and you're sounding cautionary alarms as far as how Murphy would fit as a first round splash player where the Bengals are looking for, or at least we're looking for for the Bengals, that first round impact, that ability to hit the ground running when you're picking in the middle of the first round instead of at the end
of the first round, anything else on Murphy before we move on and finish the show with his teammate to Andre Sweat. Mike No, I think it makes sense we're talking about climbing up the consensus sports and talking to NFL guys because I feel like NFL guys really hone in on a ceiling type of thing where they feel like they're just we'll get the most of that guy. We're going to turn him into the best version of himself or whoever you could think
of for that. So that's where I think some of that comes from, Whereas maybe Newton is not maxed out or anything, but he's a little closer to his ceiling than Murphy is. So you look at that, you're like, yeah, Newton could be a really good player, but Murphy he could be he could be like All Pro special type of player, And and what
what is the ceiling? Then you think Pro Bowl ceiling for Newton? Do you think all Pro is a ceiling realistically for Newton if you're taking a mid first round pick there, Yes, or no. I think I'm closer to a Pro Bowl ceiling on him, But I wouldn't be that surprised if he turns into an All Pro player. I think that's just the real high end, like Piste von Hargrave made an All Pro, don't don't. I don't think so, But like last year, you could have made the case.
I think that's where Newton lies, where he's like a pro Bowl player, and like there's a couple of years you could make the case he could be an All Pro. Let's finish up the show with Byron Murphy's teammate Tovandre Sweat the Massive Nose tackle from Texas coming up next. Today's show is brought to you by fan Duel. Get buckets with your first bet on Fandel, America's number one sports book, because right now new customers get one hundred and fifty
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the NBA. All right, Mike, there's a clear need for the Cincinnati Bengals and nose tackle DJ Readers a free agent. I would feel a little surprised that the Bengals got to the draft and they hadn't addressed this in some way, shape or form. I don't think you can go into the draft needing a player as specialized as a nose tackle. But when you look at Devandre Sweats last year at Texas, where there were some character concerns, apparently
motivation concerns, then he put it all together. According to people that have talked to his coaches, he's put that behind him. He played five hundred snaps, was actually on the field more for the Texas Longhorns in twenty twenty three than his teammate Bier Murphy, despite carrying sixty more pounds over three hundred and sixty pounds at six y four and has a pass rush win rate that
rivals Joshon Newton. Has a run stop rate that blows everybody away. And when you think about DJ Reader, one of the reasons he's so good for the Bengals is because he can affect the passer as well. When you watch and sweat, are there shades of DJ Reader? Is that too lofty to think about for sweat ceiling? I think it's there. I think you you talk about a guy his size, three hundred and sixty pounds, that's higher, that's bigger than listed Vince wolfork than listed Casey Hampton. Then like your
traditional like that's a nose tack. Well, he doesn't move too much, but you know he's a run stock. This guy moves. He cross faced a center, he was tilted whatever you will talk about. He stilled the get off at three hundred and sixty something pounds to cross the face of the center and get a clean hit on the quarterback. I was that's I watched Texas last year for those defensive tackles. I think we're day three guys, and I remember looking up, like, who's ninety three? Why aren't we
talking about this guy? I was like, oh, Sweat, is he coming out? No? Okay, sure, and he wasn't as good last year as he was this year, but just you could still see the movement at the size. It's just rare to me. And now I know that the Eagles just drafted Jordan Davis kind of had that similar idea where he's look
at that size and the movement ability. He went first round, and I think Sweat to me is kind of a first round nose tackle where dominant against the run, a good pass rusher, and the ability to get off and move like he can at his size. Now, I don't think he's gonna come up with like a ten RAS score or something, but when you talk at three hundred and sixty pounds being able to just put yourself ahead of other
guys that are three hundred and twenty pounds plus. I remember I talked to the the grid Iron Gang guys, the Bengals fans that do the draft stuff. I was like, because they listened to the defense at tackles by productivity, I was like, oh, sweat third, Like, where's that compared to a three hundred and twenty plus pound players. You're like, that's rare, Like this's usually three texts only on this list. It's like yeah, yeah, because he you shouldn't win like this. I thought he had some
good hands. I think he's more refined than his teammate. I think the pad level, if you're gonna talk about a concern, there is. He's six foot four and the pad level can get high. But that had no matter in the collegiate level, so I think you might have to work on that. I don't think it's like a he can't bend down thing. I think it's just it didn't matter. Call it like double teams. You can just take him on, Just throw a guy to the side and go make
the stop. I think I think awesome, he's my kind of player, you know, nose tackle that can rush the passer. I think that's rare to find. I don't think he'll be VPA when you consider, you know, like how much is he going to play? What's the value of the
nose tackle, et cetera. But I mean my ideal start if he could follow around two with some of those concerned like, oh man, that is such a great pick because I think he's a first round player and just to me, the special thing just comes from yes, he's a dominant nose tackle that can stop the run at three hundred and sixty pounds, but what becomes
rare is his ability to move and rush the passer at that size. Yeah, and what's weird with Sweat is, at least according to PFF's Big Board, he is way down, like down to ninety on the PFF Big Board, which is a post Senior Bowl update, which he had a great Senior Bowl. So that has to come from Trevor Sikonma talking to people in Mobile, Alabama and getting the field that perhaps to the NFL not as not as high on Sweat as he was. Yeah, I mean, I have no
idea. I know the first day of the Senior Bowl, I think he didn't have the best day and then dominated every other day, like you just kind of like a wake up like they treat the series, these guys are good, and then just took it to him. I mean that pass rush up he had against the Arkansas Center where he just rushed it straight into the ground. That was pretty awesome. Bolimmer I think was his name. Adol
mentioned Botlimber got the better of him on the day one. I remember that people were talking about it, and then day two it felt like Sweat was like, yeah, no, I am that dude. So he showed up. Yeah, It's not like he's like perfect at the Senior Bowl, but he did notably bend a man in half backward and trumple him on one particular ref which is a highlight that you will never forget once you've seen it. And if you haven't seen it, go search it up on Twitter. Tavandras
what crushes Limmer or bend's man in half? Should turn that up. He's thirty three, by the way on Dame Bruler's big board that he released about a week ago. Two weeks ago on the Athletic dot Com, he wrote about Sweat kind of in line with what I just talked about. He's known for immature tendencies as an underclass when you return for his Super Senior season,
which is interesting, so we'll have to check on his age. But Super Senior season in twenty twenty three and made several key changes on and off the field that helped elevate him and answered questions NFL scouts might have had about him. He was also the first Texas played to when the Outland trophies since nineteen ninety seven describes a powerful base that you talked about, Mike doesn't get moved by individuals not to mention, or by double teams not to mention individuals.
And when you think about what the Bengals need, that's where Devandre Sweat is so appealing. Like you talk about Brock Bauers as a potential first round fit who does a lot of the things that Bengals are looking for as a playmaker in that perspective, or you talk about you know, I talk about my personal opinion JC Latham. The things that the Bengals need is from a right
tackle. When you think about the things they need to replace the productivity they got from DJ Reader when he is on the field, a guy that can consistently affect the pocket by his sheer size and you have to account for because he's three hundred and sixty pounds. You have to game plan for that. When you can practically apply that three hundred and sixty pounds and use it with functional strength. This is a guy that is very, very attractive to me
as a draft target for the Bengals. It's just a question of where you would have to pick him and if the Bengals will be in position to do so. I would imagine the standard deviation for him on NFL boards will be pretty big. There's going to be teams that say, nose tackle, I'll get one in the fourth round. There's going to be teams to look at him and say, man, you see what DJ Reader does when he's healthy. For that Bengals defense, tobandres Well can be ninety percent of DJ Reader.
That's probably worth a premium pick, and so that'll be really interesting. Yeah, the guy it came to because DJ Reader is just a little bit shorter and can play lower with don Terry Poe. If you remember at his I'm Pro Bowl Player, second team All Pro like really good play, not just the It kind of fits too because they used to Vanders sweat on the offensive side. He caught a touchdown Tod the Heisman pos and Poe obviously had
that fun pass passing touchdown. The heaviest player to ever throw a touchdown, So they kind of have that fun miss factor to them. But they were both big guys that could move really well. And that's where I keep coming back to Or is man, who can you think of that is this tall, this wide that can move like that and can hold up like He's not just some unrefined physical marvel like. I think he has refinement to him. I think he has the ability to day one be an impact player. That's
why I could come back to it. And where do you value that? I don't know. And then I think a lot of sweat is going to be what we talked about too, with the off the field stuff like you mentioned last Or he got more serious this super senior season. His senior season, the only award he had I think was a second team preseason Big twelve All American going oh that was going into this year. And then this year obviously he won the outline. He was a unanimous first team All American.
Like he obviously put everything together and won just about every award you could win as a nose tackle other than as a nose tackle over won the Heisman. I don't think he had a shot. Yeah, No, I don't think so either, but between a great Senior Bowl, a great final season at Texas, and a spotty college career before then, I think that's one of the things that just makes him a very interesting prospect to project in the draft.
And like I said, I think the standard deviation on where teams around the NFL evaluate him and grades around the NFL and him will be very desperate. But we'll see how he tests as well. If we get tests for these guys at the combine going to be fascinating. Does he throw up like the thirty bench press reps or whatever it was for DJ Reader and show off that massive strength on the bench press? What kind of arm length measurement?
Well, I guess we have the rest of the measurements. Oh, he didn't weigh into the Senior Bowl, so does he weigh in at the combine? Will be another question. I think you think about Jawan Jones fall last for the way that he treated the Senior Bowl. Now Devandre Sweat didn't leave early, but he didn't weigh in and so wait, I'm sure will be a question for Sweat and something that he's working on ahead of his combine way in which should be later this week. I haven't looked at the combine schedule.
We'll maybe be this weekend, but we'll find out in the near future, so we'll be watching all three of these guys and Mike, we appreciate it. You can go find his right up on Tvandre Sweat and a Johnny Newton right up at Allbengals dot com, and of course he's a big contributor to the draft ranking sheet that we work on with Joe Gubberry every year as well that we'll be putting out closer to the Draft. You can find him on Twitter. Like I said, at Bengals Underscore stands. Until next time,
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