Bock, okay. Monica believes in energies. Yeah, you know I do. Yes, in the energies and let' s also say that in these kinds of therapies that exist and in fact, I try to look for a lot of information to solve issues of life, influence on the energies, on their friendships, for example, in their relationships. Sometimes I feel like there ' s a lot of g Yes, sometimes I feel like there' s a theme of taste. That which you say I have no faith and I
feel something strange with this person. Yeah, that happens to me. We ' re with Kate Jogi. She is therefore a wonderful influencer. I was looking at the profile with a tremendous number of followers community in Tiktok look here I have the figure almost three million, but only in Tiktok. On Instagram it also exceeds the million of three hundred thousand followers and a community also very
large on YouTube that does and growing. I mean, the profile of the woman we have here very well, of course, thank you for being with us. Oh, thank you for inviting me. What an illusion it gives me to be here with you that, of course, I can know you and that I can also tell you a little bit about this story and who is behind that profile that you tell so much. Yes, I want to start because look she has a description in her profile that surely many who know
her have already read. It' s tricks or magic that change his life. How is this about creating an account where, besides, you talk about that, those magic tricks that change the, which changed your life and punctually, what we' re talking about. It' s a very nice thing, because this motto of magical tricks that change your life has had a long
process. I mean, it' s not like one day it occurred to me and I woke up thinking about what I was going to do, but my process in the holistic world, in the energy world, starts seven years ago. So I started with yoga, I started with something that that I don' t trans it, I don' t get so excited by the energies anymore if I didn' t attract myself more for doing a posture, for stopping half- headed for those things and customizing that yoga thing. It
was that I started discovering the reiki. It was that I began to discover that energies, spirituality, began to discover a little bit, reflexology and many
holistic therapies, because I feel that today define me. So I like to call it magic tricks, because I feel like we need that magic when you get to different harmonic scenarios and I don' t know if it happens and sometimes it says I feel the heavy energy, or sometimes you feel a little bit nicer at the end that ends up influencing there that there' s exactly there that you can sometimes uccir s and how to put it in exact word,
because look at that there are like there are two very important ways to define it and take into account one thing. It' s what they call energetic parasites, energetic parasites, so it' s like a source of energy that feeds on your fears, that feeds on your pain, that feeds on like darkness. So I don' t know if it' s happened to you that sometimes you' re, like, you' re trying to fall into a hole and every time more and more and more and I kind of
get out of here hard. That' s because it' s like an energy that' s sucking you and that I feel it' s super important that people also know that cleaning the spaces and cleaning the spaces not only energetically, but keeping a clean open space where air ventilates. That' s going to be first of all your energy as such, your frequency and your vibration, because in the end, when we talk about energy, we talk about
the way you' re vibrating. You know, I don' t know if any of the people who know someone have happened to you, and at first sight it kind of gives you a good vibe, and at the same time, like, or there are others who don' t give you such a good Bible, then it' s a little bit. Understanding that part of energy is important. It' s there, but there' s also something else called energetic vampires. Energy vampires is when you know someone who' s having a really bad time, and it' s that we really need
to like recharge, recharge in acupuncture. They call it the chi. There are many ways to call energy as such, because it is like the food of our soul. It' s what keeps us alive It' s what keeps people alive. I don' t know what you say to an eighty - year- old man how this lady city can be so vital is that energy that he keeps it that way, but there' s also the other side and it' s the already personal issue and I don' t know if you lived it too at some point and it' s a lot of
people tell us this stress issue. Not that I feel like I can' t for my life. I feel like it' s a lot of things that are happening to me, I can' t control them, and many times because the medicine or the traditional part tries to solve you, you don ' t get it. In the specific case, let' s say, and in your own experience, there was some moment in your life when you said. I feel that this I want to assume or resolve through other alternatives.
It' s just, look, I think it' s very chevere that you' ve touched on that subject to me, because I feel like, like we' ve separated two tools that really should be together. A lot of people, when they think of the holistic world and alternative therapies, think that if you rex and just do Reky. But what I want people
to understand is that you have to complement both. You have to go to the doctor, because it is important for people to know that we have been evolving for many years sometimes the human being and we continue to evolve and we continue to discover things, and that must be taken into account, but it must be complemented with this holistic and spiritual part. So it' s a personal experience of what happened to me. It was in the two thousand and
twenty. That time you know, it was the worst of all excrement, because it gave me a paralysis is facial in the face. This part of my face makes me paralysed, one day I woke up with my face paralyzed. Just like that. I went to all the doctors, I went to acupuncture, more, to neurologist gespion, I did a lot of tests, I did so many, so many things, everything I had to take,
the injections, all that part. Let' s just say I did it from traditional medicine, but it didn' t take me six months with my face paralyzed and what the doctors were telling you, that' s because they said it was really weird, because in fact, I took a test where you could see my nerve. They told me there are three levels of nerve damage. It' s like the lightest thing in a tiny month you get fixed, which is when they take a cord off your face and it kind
of paralyzes your face. Then it' s level two, which is that your nerves died and they have to be reborn. And part three is the most serious, which is like he' s been scissored directly to the nerve and that' s it. I had both. Then I had to wait for my nerves to get back on my face to move my face again. But it was a stress situation you had. It' s just that you know it' s the funny thing that one day I woke up like this, but it' s not like I said look, it' s just
that I was having a really bad time. No, and one day I woke up. I don' t know one day you wake up and say what a terrible day. There is no explanation No one has an explanation to this day. No doctor had an explanation. No one knew, because I had given a facial paralysis and not bad at all or what you thought at the time, because I imagine the scare so tremendous and impotence. I had
a really bad time. I spent a very sad period. I spent a very very very deep period in a hole, in that hole in which I can' t get out and all this energy issue sank me more. And that' s where I found the light, because many times we need to get lost in a dark hole that' s totally lost. There so I
can find you and tell ufff what I do for me. And that' s where I started connecting with my spirituality and I said look I tried everything, I did everything, I went to all the doctors, I applied everything. That I lack my spirituality and discovered facial yoga. I started meditating I started my work more personal, fit and emotional. It' s just that people don' t know if you' re gonna believe it or not. But in a month I was already moving my face and the doctors were telling
you, I mean, they knew you were complementing you. But a doctor, the neurologist, you know what. He told me if you know how to pray do it and I like what hope, so hope. The prognosis was tremendous. This was in Spain or Colombia. Here, in Colombia. OK, and I have a question. You' ve become sensitive to energies. You become sensitive to the energies, that is, you get very quickly the energy of a person. Yeah, it' s just, in fact, we can all capture people' s energy. What happens doesn' t
get any more sensitive or less. I guess. Yes, because you develop the gift, I mean, right now there are people I don' t know if you meditate or like any of this, but if you don' t, you have the gift, but you haven' t developed it. Okay, yeah, let' s say I' ve been meditating longer. I have more developed that gift. Then I' m sure I can feel your energy. I felt the energy of the people who are here and I can understand the energy of space a little bit. I went in and I
looked good, how everything is around here and how everything is. All right, when I came in I greeted you how you felt, for example, not very pretty, you' re like very humble, I mean, I felt like comfortable and I' m okay, you can cho, well, no longer taking note, but for the law, because to wake you up
I thought he wants to be emphasis on a part of his descriptions. No, but it seems to me that it is the tremendous that and how you do at the time of coming back to see so sensitive to the energies.
It' s not carrying them. It' s very difficult. It' s a process that you have to learn to drive, because it happens to me that we can be here sharing all together and it may be that someone is wrong, sick, sad, because the person who steals your energy does not steal it as if I' m going to suck you, but because it needs light. That person is sad, sick, heartbroken or something will
have happened to him. And if there' s someone here who' s going through, that' s why, the most normal thing is that when he comes to my house, he' s destroyed, so he' s like this, he needs a full day' s rest. It' s something that I keep managing today and I keep working on protecting that energy, but it' s something that not only I see, but that people see me around that location with whom you were today are destroyed, that is,
like they tell me. Go to sleep that you have a real face what you tell your cate to people who say well, I don' t believe much in this, because you also know that entanglement is all there. And besides that this theme of spirituality, because it has several nuances, there are people who say I believe in this can be a word and so on, how you respond to it besides, especially from your own experience, because you
are telling it the subject of the specific experience that you say. You look at something that I have learned over time is that I can' t convince anyone of what I know and of my truth, because my truth is different from yours and yours And if you really don' t exist the energies,
I respect it completely, but I expect the same from you. I hope that, just as I respect that part of you, you respect that part of me and my spirituality and that if I tell you something so personal and that it healed me from a spiritual side, that you don' t take it or take it away from these things that usually happen on social networks and has happened to you with comments on networks a lot, that is, there are many, but that' s another thing that has been learned over time
and that has helped me get back a lot and connect a lot with people. And it' s at first I got a lot of it. Hete what did lying hippie hippie swindler people say to you? I don' t understand why hippe is an offense, but well, hip hippie told me everything, that is, everything he can tell you. Ah well, there are many people who are very religious, also attack this world. You know why it says only Jesus Christ, highly God alone and those people are pretty dense.
Also that if they want to talk about it later and you want to put those comments, that is, you read answers or what strategy you were. What I learned is that if you leave me that comment, that' s not me. Me. They don' t define me, and they call me a lying hippie crazy con artist. I know who I am. Me. I know what my heart is, what' s in my heart, but it gives me a little bit of the impression that it affected you at a time in your life and it did. I mean, yes,
of course. There was a time when I received so much hete, especially as a group of pharmacists who are like too rational and are as much into their world, and went viral a video that made me a lot of bullying about biodecoding. I don' t know if you know about that. Biodecoding is something that tells you the pain of your body, the disease you have has like an emotional side. Then let' s say you have a headache. There may be something inside that we need to work, that is,
you have stomach pain, you may be a very nervous person. You are a person who, perhaps as a child, was very insecure. So those things can be worked from the katy crisingtheuos biodecoding. Yes, I believe in God. What I feel is that I feel that people confuse religion with spirituality a lot. Yes, spirituality is to think and that is, that God is in each one of us. God is in the trees, in nature,
in every living thing on this planet. There' s God. Yeah, not as much as in a saying as in a person, say, this person is videos you know. On the other hand, I feel that religion calls more a Bible, to go more into detail of something that explains you and then, that' s why I think there is so much hate through spirituality, because spirituality tells you you speak from love you heal, from
love. My spirituality comes in my meditation, in believing in me, in believing in you, in believing in nature, in respecting every living thing there is. You studied marketing. It' s not like how this issue of change was, because there are so many that we graduate and say good. I' m going to dedicate myself to this. I don' t know if you had that stage of business working as such by exercising your career and if you had it, how did that change happen? And say good.
Now I am going to dedicate that to this topic and, besides, to creating tremendous community in networks yes look I until recently found in my path. I mean, now you look super safe, because I' m pretty sure what I want to do, but until recently I' ve been looking everywhere for my way. I love marketing, I mean, I love what marketing is. Marketig marketing has made me grow male marketing growing on social media has
made me, that is, the knowledge I have in marketing. I don ' t trade it for anything, but you know what I got to do. That change from that chip. It was the moment I finished my college. And now what do you get to do, what do they tell you? I usually look for exact business jobs. Then I said I had already known yoga. I said well, you go, what do you want to do for the rest of your life and if you die tomorrow, what would you do, even though it doesn' t matter the money, it doesn
' t matter anything, what would you do. And I said first in a locked office, my life goes to my soul. I can' t tell you. Second, I want to do yoga. I want to teach this that I like so much and I love social media, that I grew up with social media. And then it was like that change in which you obviously know a lot of comments from this woman. He' s damaged his life. This woman is not going to get anywhere, she' s going to do yoga and you didn' t feel afraid there much and much.
I mean, you, imagine you' re making that decision and everyone tells you that you' re doing really bad, it' s that you' re what you' re going to do, it' s that your mom ' s going to keep you alive. Then it was up to me to face that fear because I told them that c and I die tomorrow that I stay in a company working and there I said no. I' m going to put my social media content on this topic that I like so much.
But, I mean, you weren' t happy at work. It' s not that when I studied marketing at the university, I was very happy, but when I went to an office, I got depressed clearly, but of course people would say ay to me, but hold on, that' s what you have to do, that' s what you have to be and I said no. I come into this life to be happy, I don' t come to meet anyone' s expectations or to meet anyone you tell me. I come to fulfill my dreams and to be happy and my
dreams do no harm to anyone. I' m not affecting anyone with this. So that' s where I started growing up and my mom bothers me a lot today because I remember he said Mommy, I' m gonna live on this. Listen to me, I' m gonna live on this. And that happened about four years ago and then I made myself today you remember when you said done to me and then you can say that you live on
this one. Yeah, I' m alive then. And there was no such process because in addition in networks it happens that, since it is a complex world in which to start monetizing, start generating, these communities are delayed. In your case, how late that process was. It was slow. There was a time when you repented, when you thought about it again. I think I was wrong or not. Yeah, that' s the slow process. The problem is, we don' t have patience. Two years
without winning anything, that is zero twenty years of the four relios. Yeah, imagine, that was love for pure art, that' s me. The maximum that I earned was five hundred thousand pesos and how by monetization or what I didn' t do workshops that I loaf and knew by networks and they knew me by networks. Yeah, but until two years ago I started living on this thing that I said uffo until I was surprised at or how we' re going. But you live well. Yes, of course,
I live very well. And what is the formula, especially for many people who also say I want to try tangled, but I feel it is very complicated, which is very difficult in your particular case. What could have been that strategy you' re saying This is what worked for me, which made me take off for myself two things in particular. The first is you have to find your place, that is, if you don' t know what you want to do and what you want to teach. You' re not
gonna make it. First, you need to know what you want to talk about, because you' re gonna marry that for the rest of your life. You know. And the second is discipline. You know if a video you uploaded and didn' t have a view, if it didn' t have likes, it' s the same. Tomorrow you go back up another one and keep going up another one and another one. That' s for me the key to success finding out what your place is, what your niche is. And second, don' t stop bars doesn' t matter the
end result. What do you say to kate A, because let' s say that in the midst of all these comments that you read in networks that this is a generation of crystal, that we are talking about, a generation that is very sensitive, that before we say, people addressed their problems, because without so much thing, without so much topic, now that we are talking about a generation of truth is a generation of crystal more sensitive than the
one that responds to the front of them. But I hear it because a lot of people are saying it, and above all a lot of people are older, bigger. No, this young generation is a much more generation. That' s what I' m saying I mean, we' re underestimated, I don' t know, and there' s, like, the way you see this. I think we' re evolving, we' re growing up, and being more vulnerable means having a little bit more connected to spirituality, you know, it' s feeling and being more connected to your
mental health, to your well- being. Then I think it' s a joke. It' s very funny, but actually, I think it ' s the best thing that can happen to us, because we keep growing and evolving. No and its bad also Cate and Juan, the fact that these issues are talked about and addressed, even through social networks, because surely those of that other generation, because they did not address those issues, which passed by. And I think this is a generation that dares that too,
so let' s say talk. Reason. That' s where I put my opinion, but I think it' s a topic. It' s a long topic to talk about. And Kate, you' re always this quiet. I don' t know why people tell me I' m calm if I feel super no, but you' re quiet, you' re very calm. Yeah, yeah, I' m like this to see I ' ve got my angry moments too. Let' s really say it makes you brave, that black po, that brings out the genius. Yeah, I' m just very impatient, so look at me having to be patient.
I' ve learned a lot in my process, but wait or that have to wait a long time. Those things put me in a bad mood. But it' s not like you' re making me hysterical. I don' t get like that when you get over my limits and that' s when I feel like you' re respecting me or when I feel like that. But it' s not like I tell you that she passed it on to me and how you take on those moments of your own, that
is, here you' re already hysterical. The first thing is to get it all out, if you' re hysterical, get it out, but not to get it out means with you or anyone else, because that person is not to blame for what' s happening to you, that is, you throw the mother in the mind and you say all the words after you give in your mind. Yeah, but then you take a deep breath and say good, because you know what happens after that anger, behind all that anger, there' s really the wisdom and there' s the calm.
Then you have to take it out, because there are a lot of people who tend to keep it and it' s like or like nothing happened. I don' t know, I don' t know, I don' t know, and then you make a ball and it explodes. I have to ask you something by taking advantage of the fact that I have you here because it happens to me and I am sure that much that aroused me curiosity
here has nothing to do with the subject of meditation. I mean, I feel like I' ve read it and I' ve read it and then I' ve googled it and the good thing about how I start meditating, because I understand that and let' s say I' ve known it works for a lot of things in life, but there' s no know.
It happens to me, I don' t know if you guys stay, I don' t know if I' ve tried, but here one starts and in the middle or I start thinking about something else, because I kind of despair and then I kind of feel, like, or not, this doesn' t make sense to be able to handle it as a runaway, like what it should be or a tip at least you can tell me to start in this world of meditation and for those with attention deficits. That way,
too, I raise my hand. It' s just something as curious as stereotypes, and they tell you that to meditate you have to keep your mind blank. But it' s just that it' s impossible to have how you blank it. Yeah, you can' t do that. That ' s just as much as they tell you to keep your mind blank. You can' t keep your mind blank. So, my first advice is that less is more than five minutes. Five minutes and in a position where
you' re calm, where you can sit down anyway. Yes, you put yourself on YouTube or Spotify, where you want a meditation and listen to it. If you in that meditation. In those five minutes, in the minute, you started thinking what you have to do for work. You have to let it be and just say ah ok and go back to meditation. But the problem is that we attacked each other again how bad are you doing
it? Yeah? Yeah? Yeah? Yeah, they try there already you start to feel like a rejection of that and I don' t feel part of it. I' m not good at this, but it' s really you stop being and stop thinking about me, which is what you want. Meditation is giving time to what you' re thinking, that many times we think things that we don' t even realize all the time in your moment we' re thinking no and pay a lot of thoughts in a matter
of seconds. It says at what point they didn' t have I wasn ' t aware maybe the amount of ideas you had there waves in your head and this kept ringing a lot, Kati, that you feel very much the energies. You become more sensitive to that somewhere that you never forget, where you felt an energy that you came as you say sucked the house that is better said, the malls in general, if they are the worst. I mean, it' s not like I have any of that, but I just can' t get into a mall. No. I can' t.
It' s terrible. It' s a stagnant energy. People who work in malls are usually people who are not happy, they are usually people who are poorly paid, they are usually people who are not happy, they do not enter the sun, there is no natural light. I don' t have a good time, the food, the kind of food they sell in malls. Also this type of very fast food, which also attend people who are so sad, who are people who are sad with their work,
who are not valued. When you' re valued at your job, you ' re doing everything reluctantly and all that energy you' re doing reluctantly the deliveries already as long as you haven' t been in a mall, but I mean, yeah, I have to go into a mall. It' s because he touched me but a while ago. And the thing is, for many people the plan is and it' s a mall. Yeah,
jor or the weekend plan, let' s go to the mall. Hand in there, today we have, we have a section here in the viral, which are quick questions for you to be short, it' s worth faster in piece or run. What do you regret about nothing influences me to be an entrepreneur, an entrepreneur, the biggest lie you' ve ever heard about yoga, which is from the devil, a phrase that inspires you.
Believe in you the worst of networks the derogatory comments to you the best to reach out and connect with so many people a comment in networks that has broken your heart, that stops being so lying, so lying scammer and fooling others a secret, a secret. This is makeup and a fulfilled dream. I have fulfilled many dreams actually reach the million followers on Instagram. Well, that ' s fine there. Thank you for those stains. Here I felt super
comfortable, I felt super quiet. Thank you for giving me that peace of mind too, because it is important for people here to feel calm. And you did that. So thank you very much. Yeah, you can do it here at the Yuga session. That would be great. No, no, and we have to keep going. I mean, you don' t have to read about the fine thing. Here' s where the news from this country. Charging with that energy, yes, it' s complicated. Have sex. Thank you Thank you.