¶ Undefined Spleen: Fear of Letting Go
The undefined spleen tends to, in a conditioned state, overly attached to people or circumstances in an effort to give yourself the experience of security so it feels safe. To have that security blanket of a defined spleen or of a job that gives you a sense of security or a home or a circumstance, a relationship.
But remember where you're undefined, you're meant to experience things on a fluctuating basis, and you're meant to sample all sorts of different potentials for that center. And so when an undefined spleen fixates, on something that at one point gave them a sense of security that felt good, they will end up being attached to something that is no longer correct for them or the circumstances of it are no longer correct for them, but the fear of losing it
And losing what was supposed to be a temporary source of security anyways will override that person's strategy and effect.
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¶ The Spleen Center: Instinctive Awareness
Spleen center is our oldest form of awareness as a species. Four million years old. It's the center for instinctive awareness and it deals with our awareness of how to hold on to life, aka our awareness around survival, both as a species, as group. tribes and as individuals. It processes our sense of security, fear, health, and well being in the moment. The spleen only operates on a moment to moment basis. And it communicates to us, it communicates its awareness to us.
Somatically through light, spontaneous moment by moment hits and telling us what is safe and healthy for us and what is not. It's instinctive awareness in the now. It's often referred to as our instincts. As well as in human design it's often referred to as intuition. I will sometimes use the word intuition for the spleen, but I sometimes worry about using that word for the spleen, even though it is commonplace in human design to associate the spleen with intuitive knowing and intuition.
simply because of the popularity of the w the in the word intuition and intuitive outside of human design because I think the sort of generalized understanding of intuition out in the non-human design world. can be applied to the idea of inner authority in human design. So like an emotional authority person might understand their emotional knowing and their emotional processes, their intuition, but that use of the word is different.
inner knowing, inner authority is a different thing than the intuitive, instinctive hits of the spleen. So just sharing that depending on who you're talking to and the extent to which they've learned the language of human design like formally. or through their lineage of learning human design, they might use the word intuition a little more widely, which I might sometimes as well. And I will usually tend to say instinct per spleen instead of intuition in order to remain clear about that.
¶ Defined Spleen: Trusting Your Instincts
People with a defined spleen center, a defined instinctive awareness center, have a consistent access to spontaneous awareness and alertness through the body and the senses. The defined spleen has a sense of knowing that it's safe unless it feels that it's not safe. And when those instincts hit, it trusts them. It trusts their body's system for alerting them of their safety or not in the moment. Splenic people.
defined spleen people and and maybe even especially people for whom the spleen center is the authority. So that would be defined spleen people who are undefined in both the emotional center and the sacral. Well sometimes just suddenly know things and not know why, like not be able to explain from a mental perspective, a mental plane, why they know things, but they just suddenly know things in their body, these quick spontaneous light hits.
And they know they can trust them. So these tend to be spontaneous people. It can it's correct and healthy for people with a defined spleen to be spontaneous and to trust those instinctive hits. If you have a defined spleen, you likely have a sense that you know how to survive and that you are safe, unless you are not. Although this can definitely be one of those things that defined spleen people take for granted, their consistent sense of being able to trust.
that unless their body is alerting them that there's a threat to their safety and survival, that they're all good. Definitely something that I I know as a defined spleen person I've taken for granted. I've had to do a lot of squinty eyes in considering, is this something that I that I know? And then over time, as I observe people with undefined spleens and hear about their experiences, I'm able to see, okay, yes, I suppose it is true that I generally trust the health and well being of my body.
But I didn't realize that wasn't the case for everyone, right? So defined spleen is one that I think is really easy to take for granted. People with a defined spleen have a fixed way of processing our fears which are called tend to be consistent for us and it can be correct for the defined spleen person to inquire into our fears because again if the body is alerting you there's something not safe here, I feel threatened.
My life feels threatened, my well being, my health, my security feels threatened. That's your own instinctive awareness coming online and so something that you can generally trust and it can be safe and aligned for you to look into. Defined spleen people can provide a feeling of safety and security to others. A defined spleen can feel like a security blanket to someone with an undefined spleen or oftentimes we talk about like animals with undefined spleens will be the animals that gravitate.
towards people with defined spleens and just wanna like stay on their lap or in the case of my bird, stay in my hand constantly,'cause it just feels safe and the same sort of dynamic can exist between an undefined spleen person and a defined spleen person. A person with a defined spleen you may enjoy scenarios in which you have to rely on your instincts.
So, you know, certain like sports where you have to be your reflexes have to be on point, your instinctive reflexes have to be on point. Driving, being able to like kind of defensively drive, like keep yourself safe.
We don't really think of driving as highly dangerous necessarily anymore, but it is. Like people of long ago would have been probably terrified in cars on the highway. And defined spleen people might have a more natural sense of security in a situation like driving, but also even enjoy it.
Things like um camping, survival skills, even things like waiting tables or jobs that rely highly on your quick intuitive, instinctive, spontaneous awareness and ability to handle things quickly as they come up.
¶ Undefined Spleen: Fluctuating Awareness
If you have an undefined spleen, your access to this spontaneous awareness will fluctuate. This also means that your sense of your own safety, health, and well being and of your tribe or of the collective, if you're more of a tribal or collective person, may shift And may vary significantly. You will not always feel safe and healthy in your body.
you're going to be experiencing all sorts of little hits that might actually feel that little in your body because you're amplifying them from others of fears of perceived potential threats. to the health and well being of yourself, of your tribe, and of the collective, but those may not be for you. There can be, from the not self-minds perspective, a perceived lack of safety and security that can feel very
scary and threatening to the undefined spleen. The undefined spleen is taking in and amplifying the fears, the instincts, the intuitive hits, and the ill health of others. Intuition and instinct are a variable for the undefined spleen. Spontaneity may not be for the undefined spleen because there's not a sense of reliance and trust
in the hits, the spontaneous hits as they come. So an undefined spleen person might not feel as safe driving. They might not feel comfortable with high risk situations like survival things, camping, even not high risk situations, but things like I used in the other example, like waiting tables or or sports or games that require those quick instincts. Mm, it's possible that in certain situations
the undefined spleen and the wisdom of it and its ability to pick up on the instincts of others could be really supportive. Like consider that in regards to I'm watching the NBA playoffs right now. So in regards to basketball, maybe an undefined spleen would do really well to be able to pick up on the instincts of the players around them.
someone's gonna pass to me or this person's gonna try to fake me out and actually run that way, right? So it's not that that person might not enjoy um or excel at those things, but it's gonna be a different sensation, a different experience with high instinct.
things and for a conditioned undefined spleen especially that might just be a lot if if someone has an undefined spleen and doesn't know how to engage with all of those instincts and fears and hits coming in from the outside, they will get lost in it and it will manifest in a lot of over amplified fear.
¶ Undefined Spleen: Wisdom, Health, Fear
and perception of a risk to their health and their well-being and their survival. An undefined spleen person is designed to witness and become wise about fear, not to identify with it or be driven by it. The spleen tends to have a lot to do with survival in general and fear can be a threat to survival in any way that fear shows up. But one of the things that I've started to really see in the experiences in the lives of the undefined spleen people that I'm close to who
are deconditioning or have done deconditioning work on their spleen. So in many cases, these are my human design friends with undefined spleens. There tends to be a commonality of having an orientation towards health, like understanding the human body in general and being wise about many different multimodal approaches to tending to the health and survival of the human body.
So for me, these are people who have like some cancer survivor, people who have done a lot of work with, have a lot of experience with. with alternative medicine, with oils, with essences, with acupuncture, and people whose work in many cases has started to be very oriented around health. So I just wanted to bring that in th th the spleen is not only
health in terms of like the health of the body on an ongoing basis. It's also health as in literally holding on to life in any given moment. So safety, security, survival. But I do really see health and becoming wise about health and the many different approaches that one can take to live well and stay living well tends to be associated a lot with the undefined spleen which You know that kind of
relates here to this idea of you have a sense that you know how to survive and that you're safe if you have a defined spleen. Defined spleen people, we don't need to become wise about health because we don't need to try many things. We our default is we feel pretty safe and healthy in our bodies. And when we don't, the spleen gives us a clear intuitive hit around what might need to happen in order to remedy that.
So we we just we don't really we're not called, we're not naturally compelled in most cases to need to be wise about health the way that the undefined spleen person might naturally see themselves becoming.
¶ Undefined Spleen: Over-Attachment and Conditioning
The undefined spleen may tend to often tends to, in a conditioned state, overly attached. yourself to people or circumstances in an effort to give yourself the experience of security. So it feels safe. to have that security blanket of a defined spleen or of a job that gives you a sense of security in one moment or a home or a circumstance, a relationship.
But remember, where you're undefined, you're meant to experience things on a fluctuating basis, and you're meant to sample all sorts of different potentials for that center. And so when an undefined spleen fixates,
on something that at one point gave them a sense of security that felt good, they will end up being attached to something that is no longer correct for them or the circumstances of it are no longer correct for them, but the fear of losing it and losing what was supposed to be a temporary source of security anyways will override that person's strategy and authority.
¶ Community and Other Podcast Offerings
So it's correct for an undefined spleen person to use strategy and authority to navigate what fears that you have to confront and process and when it may be time to let go of people or circumstances that are not right for you. You know that I started two new podcasts since we first released the Living Your Design one. I just can't stop my friends. When you need a break from the very mental info heavy LYD lectures, you can check out Lab Partners and or Quality Time.
Lab Partners is a behind-the-scenes collaborative podcast that follows me and seven folks who I was very close with in this last season as we experimented together with creativity, authenticity. relationship, collaboration, and visibility. It's really good and it was one of my favorite things I created in 2025. I think it's very magical and alchemical and it's changing the world and it's streamable wherever you get your podcast. That one's free to get in on, so go get in on it.
And quality time is a little bit more behind the scenes even. It's my new special sacred protected podcast where I drop in deep with loved ones who have been through the Living Your Design teaching, integrated it in their lives. studied with me at some point over the years and have become dear friends of mine and peers in this consciousness work.
My guests who joined me on Quality Time are catching up with me and together we're touching on some pretty tender subjects, spiraling through the deconditioning journey together and Finding some relief and peace in our connections with each other and sharing that relief and peace and connection with you. Quality time is available exclusively for patrons.
There's just some really incredible conversations happening across these two projects. Cross pollination is in effect, worlds are being built, their grid work is flowing. And aside from these podcasts, there's tons of stuff happening in the orbit field, a lively Discord, an archive of human design and astrology teachings, with new ones added monthly, and more and more and more and more. My altar tier which is like my high touch.
You get access to me and my community several times a month and I get to know you and your astrology, your and your design, and I'm available to work with you one on one. is currently closed to new students. So I don't know why I just said all that. But you can still join the orbit field either as an alum if you've already studied with me, or you can join on the much lower cost self-study solarium tier, which is ten dollars a month.
Gives you access to quality time, my archive of astrology and human design workshops with new ones added monthly. A little bit of access to me and to the community in the Orbit Field Discord where you can chat with people who have your profile, have your aura type, and just chat in general about these cosmic languages. See you there, maybe?
¶ Defined Spleen: Healthy Versus Not-Self
Good. A defined spleen in a healthy state is tuned in and responsive to your instinctual awareness. It trusts those momentary spontaneous instinctive quick gut feelings and intuitions as they come. Now typically when we say gut feelings in human design we're re we're referring to the sacral, but there's a lot of people whose spleen is defined through the sacral.
Or if we're talking about generators, seventy percent of the planet, people who are splenic have splenic definition and our generators, whether or not that definition is com is connected, the sacral to spleen, there might be an association with a gut feeling and the instincts and intuitions.
Define spleen person, regardless of what else you have define. You're designed to move with a bit of spontaneity, to trust those hits as they come, even if they're totally unexplainable or totally stray from the plan you had or what you anticipated. A healthy defined spleen has a consistent way of processing fears.
which offers them a consistent sense of security in their body. Again, something that would be easy to take for granted probably. Healthy defined spleen has a natural sense of being able to survive. In good health, a defined spleen will give a person a sense of well-being, good feels, and safety and protection that they are then also able to condition others with. So a healthy person with a defined spleen literally carries the feeling of good health.
feeling good and healthy and regulated in the body into the room and into presence of or other auras that they interact with. A defined spleen person in a not self-state is someone who is having an experience of conditioning from other centers, distorting their acceptance, awareness of, and trust of their own instincts. So they're not gonna trust that need to move spontaneously according to intuitive hits. They're gonna ignore their instincts and ignore their intuition.
often they'll let their own mind and or other people's emotions, energy, or urgency override their intuition in the now. And something that's often talked about with the spleen is that It communicates in the now moment and it comes once, it hits you once and then it leaves. That intuitive awareness, those instincts hit and then they go. So when you ignore them, you miss it.
And I don't wanna condone like a scarcity or a fix a mental fixation or obsession with splenic awareness, but it's just something to play with and consider as you experiment with strategy and authority, especially for people who have the spleen as their authority, but even for people with sacral or emotional authority who also have a defined spleen, it's something to be aware of and play with and experiment with.
notice if you can tell when you have the instinct to change something or say something or do something or move in a different direction than you were planning to or you're used to and if you ignore it and how that process interfaces with your strategy and with your authority if you don't have splenic authority.
It'll come back and tell you what you need to know in a new form, in a new moment, but the hit that you get when you get it is not something you can return to. That spontaneous acknowledgement of the splenic awareness is pretty crucial.
And it can be easy, as we've discussed with many other centers, when someone else's life force If you have an undefined sacral is overcoming you and it feels good, that can overpower your instinct that's saying, It's time to go, it's time to go right now, go home, get out of here or someone else's emotions or
ego are wanting, are making you feel like you have to people please or you have to prove something that can override your splenic instincts that are actually telling you what's safe and healthy and correct for you in the moment.
¶ Undefined Spleen: Healthy Versus Not-Self
When an undefined spleen is in a healthy state, not operating from conditioning, they feel comfortable taking their time processing their intuition and navigating whatever comes their way. So when we talk about like Who's intuitive? Like who are the intuitive people? It's kind of like with the solar plexus, you can't really say that defined or undefined is more emotional than the other. It's just a different orientation to emotions. A defined solar plexus person is.
is a pretty emotional person because we're always cycling through our emotional process. We're never not somewhere. in our emotional wave. But an undefined emotional person, while their default might be very calm, cool, collected, they when they're not operating from conditioning, they seem pretty cool and unemotional. When the emotions come in, they feel really big. There's a lot of emotional empathy. So same idea here with splenic awareness.
One thing that I I didn't mention, anything that filters through the spleen, so the left side of the body graph is gonna have this kind of cool calm orientation to it, this like cool instinctual sense. anything that is circulated through the emotional center, the right side of the body graph, the solar plexus is gonna have a more heated, warm, emotional, passionate sort of sense to it. So
if you continue to study human design and you learn more about the different circuits of channels, that's something that will become clear. But I j I guess I just kinda wanted to point that out that splenic people or people with a lot of circuitry that channels that go through the spleen have a cooler orientation to them.
Whereas emotional people have a more heated and we can see the ego is over there near the solar plexus too. So that whole side of the body graph is a bit more emotional and passionate and warm and heated. But yeah, coming back to this idea, apologies for that, for going astray there for a moment. Coming back to this idea that We are not more or less emotional necessarily. Like that's too black and white as a way to approach whether people are emotional with an undefined or defined solar plexus.
Same thing with the splinging, you know, everybody wants to know am I everyone's ego mind wants to know, ooh, am I intuitive? Well, yes, you are. It's just a matter of are your intuitions and your connection and access to instinctual intuitive awareness, is it something that's consistent and always for you in your subjective experience? Or is it something that's inconsistent and fluctuates and amplifies?
the instincts and intuitive awareness of others. So someone who's got a defined spleen is very intuitive in the sense of their instincts are guiding them all of the time. versus someone who's undefined in the spleen is extremely intuitive in the sense of they're picking up on other people's intuitions and instincts and
that can be really useful in in settings like, you know, counseling or divining for people, tarot, different forms of divination, stuff like that. But when it comes to your own intuition, a healthy, undefined spleen person is gonna feel more comfortable taking their time to process these instinctive hits that are coming in because it needs to get filtered through your own strategy and authority process for you to know what to act on and what not.
So in a not self state might be a little bit more spontaneous versus an undefined sleeping person in a healthy state is gonna allow themselves to take their time processing these intuitive hits. A healthy undefined spleen uses strategy and authority to know what fears to confront. And use a strategy and an authority to know when to hold on to and when to let go of circumstances and relationships.
Trusting that the absence of security, of familiar security, can be correct for you if it is what your strategy and authority are calling for. a healthy, undefined spleen, feels comfortable with their health and how they take care of their body, becomes wise about health and well being without obsessing over it.
A not self-undefined spleen is gonna hold on to people, things, situations and circumstances that are no longer healthy or correct for them. So staying in a relationship much longer than is actually good and healthy for you. staying in a job much longer than is actually good and healthy for you, a living situation maybe, because there's a familiar sense of consistent
security, but this is a familiar sense of consistent security according to the mind, which is fearful of letting go of that security. Your body is actually designed to experience all sorts of different versions of feeling secure and safe and healthy. And in order for you to have those experiences, sample those things and ultimately become very wise about health, immunity, survival. in life, you have to be able to detach from these different versions of security that you come into.
So on the same note, the the not self state of the undefined spleen is gonna drive someone to be overly dependent on relationships, circumstances, or habits that bring a consistent sense of security. The undefined spleen in a not self state tends to then develop quite rigid habits. in attempts to hold on to things. So even habits can be something that the undefined spleen can cling to, like I have to stick with this healthcare regimen exactly, or I won't be safe.
And part of... I when I think about what it must be like to have an undefined spleen, there have been moments in my process where I've really thought that seems scary. But that's because I have a defined spleen. You know, I can't I can't fathom what it would be like to operate without that consistent access to knowing I'm safe and secure. But the truth of the matter is that if you have an undefined spleen You don't actually need that consistent
sense of safety and security in order to survive. Everything you need in order to survive and hold on to your life is accounted for in your own body graph, in your own design, in your own definition, regardless of how many centers you have defined or not. So what's important for the undefined spleen person to look at, to experiment with and play with is that
When you obsess over these fears, that's actually you're not self-mind, right? You don't actually have control over your survival, over whether you're going to die or not, or how long you're going to live.
And your body, through its strategy and with its authority, which is not the spleen, is going to take care of your trajectory in life and take care of you and show you who you need to be near and what forms of spunic definition and spunic conditioning are good for you and when, so that absence of security itself for the undefined spleen is not actually an indication that you are unsafe.
the not self-state of the undefined spleen is going to be overwhelmed with a fear of safety, health, et cetera, and will react spontaneously to those fears rather than taking their time processing. intuition and navigating those fears using their strategy and their authority.
The theme of the not self-spleen is, as we've already kind of found through the last couple slides, holding on to what isn't good for me. And the undefined or open spleen center not self-voice can sound like I can't survive without blank. I'm not going to do this because I might fail and failure makes me vulnerable and unsafe. I don't want to do anything that makes me feel insecure without this blank job relationship routine savings account. I will not be safe.
I can't do this or I can't say this because it might upset this person. So, you know, I was talking about the two sides of the body graph. And in many cases, the body graph's not perfectly symmetrical, but where it is, it is sort of a mirror, the splenic orientation to something versus the emotional orientation to something.
And so you can see a bit of a mirror of the solar plexus and some of the aspects of the not self spleen. The not self solar plexus wants to avoid truth and confrontation and ends up people pleasing. because it wants to maintain the emotional bond with someone without having to take in their uncomfortable emotional reactions. The spleen wants to maintain a a bond with someone
for the sake of survival and holding on to the sense of security that that person or that relationship offers them. And so there's a different but similar sort of potential for fawning and people pleasing with the undefined spleen with not wanting to upset someone.
But not because you're afraid of the emotional outburst necessarily. You might also have an undefined solar plexus and relate to that. But because you're literally fearful for your life and your well being if you can't maintain that connection and access to whatever version of security your mind thinks you're getting and you need from that person or that relationship.
The not self of the undefined spleen can sound like I'm only safe if I blank, if I have this healthcare regimen, if I live in this house, if I stay in this relationship, if I maintain contact with this abusive parent.
If I am inadequate, I might lose blank, and that would be a threat to my safety or wellbeing. My job, money, my reputation, my relationship, literally insert anything. So in summary, the question to ask yourself to discern whether you might be stuck in a loop having to do with your not self spleen conditioning is am I holding on to what is not good for me?
¶ Splenic Biology, Gates, and Circuitry
About fifty-five percent of the population has the spleen defined, so close to half and half, but slightly more people have splenic definition than do not. The biological correspondence in the spleen is of course the immune system and the lymphatic system. The spleen can be defined in five directions.
The spleen can be defined in the root. So these three centers down here, there's a collective one, an individual one, and a tribal one, the eighteen, twenty-eight, and thirty-two, come from the root. Those are root to spleen channels, and so that's root pressure and a little bit of ignition fuel for instinctual awareness.
Through the fifty, twenty seven, the twenty sevens in the sacral, the root can be defined to the sacral, that's a tribal channel, and that is sacral life force that powers up instinctual awareness. energy to operate from the instincts, instincts for how to use energy, life force. The spleen can be defined through its one channel towards the s the ego, which is the forty four twenty six, forty four in the spleen, twenty six in the ego, and that's intuitive willpower, instinctive willpower.
It can be defined in connection to the G through the fifty seven ten, and that is the instinct to behave as oneself and to move in the direction of one's own integrity. And it can be defined to the throat center, connected to the throat center, ver through either the fifty-seven twenty or the forty-eight sixteen. Both of these channels are about the instinct to communicate and express in the now, knowing what to express instinctually in the now.
There's seven total gates in the spleen. And a really interesting thing about the spleen is that this is the only center in which all of the the gates happen in really close proximity to each other in the zodiac. So if we're talking about like sun sign season. It's when the sun is in Libra and Scorpio that all of the gates are hit with the sun, are activated or defined by the sun.
So you've got five of these gates in Libra, eighteen thirty two, fifty, fifty seven and forty eight. It's very interesting to me Libra being like cardinal heir. Air feels very instinctual to me. It's very quick moving like the spleen. And then cardinal is like taking responsibility for initiatory moving. So y I feel like I can really feel the splenic's orientation to like Oh I have to do this, oh I have to do this, oh I have to do this with cardinal air.
And then we also have three splenet gates in Scorpio. And so together uh and Scorpio is, you know, the the the sign associated with death and the loss of life. So this life death orientation is very alive in Scorpio, which has three gates in the spleen. Libra and Scorpio are the autumn equinox when we're looking at it from a tropical zodiac solar movement perspective. And so sometimes people in the human design space refer to kind of like jokingly, refer to October as Splenic Awareness Month.
because that's when we have the sun in all the spleen gates. And just an interesting orientation I think to consider that this is when in the northern hemisphere life is dying. Plants are dying and the spleen is about holding on to life, the instinct to hold on to life.
circuitry wise, three of the seven splenet gates are tribal, two are collective and two are individual. So actually three centers have more tribal gates than than otherwise. I think I said two when we were overviewing the Solar plexus, but it's the spleen, the ego, and the solar plexus that all have more tribal gates than anyone.
¶ Episode Conclusion and Resources
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