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Living Cult Free: The Podcast

Gerette Buglion & Living Cult Freewww.gerettebuglion.com

Welcome to "Living Cult Free: The Podcast," where survivors of high-control groups share their raw, unfiltered stories. No narrators, no sensationalism—just pure, unadulterated survivor accounts. Listen to the voices often eclipsed by cult leaders and hear the truth, one story at a time.

This podcast was originally called: Everyday Cults, Everyday People and produced by C. Jane Taylor and Gerette Buglion. To hear Gerette riff about the stages of cultic involvement as described in her memoir, An Everyday Cult, listen to Season One, Episodes 1-6. 

To check out helpful conversations with Dr. Steve Hassan about the Influence Continuum and the BITE model, head over to Season Two, Episodes 7 - 12. 

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Episodes

S3: The Price for Freedom - Cerese’s Pilgrimage

Please note this episode has been edited to keep some names and identifiers confidential. Having grown up in a religious cult, Cerese shares the confusion, doubts, and even self hate - especially as an adolescent - feeling betrayed by her maturing body. The prescribed norms of the church dictated her reality, severing the healthy bonds with her father. Adolescence heralded the end of them sharing their mutual love for the outdoors. Survival as an adult included a return to the outdoors and throu...

Mar 18, 202556 minSeason 3Ep. 7

S3: Finally Free: Lori Unravels Her Binds to a Controlling Virtual "School"

Lori shares her story of how she became deeply involved in an online school that blurred the line between education and coercion. She opens up about the power of community, the subtle ways control takes hold, and the moment she realized she had to break free. In this candid conversation, Lori reflects on the challenges of leaving, rebuilding her life, and reclaiming her personal power. A powerful story of resilience, self-discovery, and the long road to healing. The episode opens with Lori readi...

Feb 17, 202542 minSeason 3Ep. 6

S3: Breaking Free: Mariama’s Journey of Healing and Self Discovery

In this powerful episode, Mariama shares her deeply personal journey of growing up in a high-control religious group. She reflects on her upbringing, the constraints on personal expression, and the challenges of finding her identity while under constant scrutiny. Mariama opens up about the pivotal moments that led her to question the group's teachings, the emotional toll of leaving, and the courage it took to reclaim her life. Her candid storytelling highlights themes of self-discovery, healing,...

Jan 20, 202554 minSeason 3Ep. 5

S3: Finding Home: Elad's Journey Into and Out of Hasidic Judaism

Elad shares how he grew up a secular Jew with Israeli parents and went on a spiritual journey, seeking meaning and community. This led him to a Hasidic community where he found “beauty, truth and beautifully true people.” Over time, though, he realized that ongoing acceptance within this religious family required a “total sublimation of my selfhood.” He describes the painful journey into a spiritual home, through disillusionment and, finally, walking away from the beliefs, people and places that...

Oct 07, 202447 minSeason 3Ep. 3

S3: Rebecca’s Story: The Profound Impact of Religious Cults on Personal Identities

Rebecca’s story transcends individual experience to illuminate universal themes of resilience, identity, and healing. It underscores the power of community, self-discovery, and the ongoing process of healing from psychological and emotional wounds inflicted by cults and similar restrictive groups while celebrating the courage and strength required to break free and reclaim one’s authentic self. Listen as Rebecca describes accepting and flourishing in her queer and polyamorous identity, and how g...

Aug 05, 202434 minSeason 3Ep. 2

S3: Ciara’s Story: Is it a Sin to Talk About It?

Grappling with existential questions about the origins of her thoughts, the influence of external forces on her autonomy, and her experiences within a religious cult, Ciara reflects on themes of control, deception, and the struggle for personal identity and freedom within a structured belief system. Listen to find out how Ciara finds bursts of inspiration often fueled by a sense of urgency or emotional resonance throughout her daily life. Find Ciara on Instagram You can find Living Cult Free on ...

Jul 01, 20241 hrSeason 3Ep. 1

S2: STRATEGIES - Get Out or Help Someone You Love Get Out

Today we explore strategies you can use to get out of a cult or help a loved one get out. To setup the framework for our discussion, we look at numbers and definitions. The numbers are huge. Up to 10,000 cults still exist today in the United States. That number is growing. “Millions of people have been affected by undue influence. Many of us have had religions chosen for us or we’ve joined self-help or spiritual groups that became harmful or destructive. We have suffered from coercive control an...

Nov 11, 202145 minSeason 2Ep. 6

S2: EMOTION CONTROL - Emotional Backfire

The subject of today’s podcast is Emotion Control. Like it or not, as human beings, we creatures tend to respond emotionally. Comfort, praise, recognition, and a sense of belonging are among our top stimuli. Our yearning for these is manna from heaven to cult leaders. They prey upon exactly this type of vulnerability. They lure us in under the veil of comfort and specialness and then set up an “us” versus “them” dichotomy. While under cultic influence, Dr. Hassan was told that the Moonies were h...

Nov 05, 202138 minSeason 2Ep. 5

S2: THOUGHT CONTROL - They Co-Opted my Brain!

As smart, functioning adults, we like to think that we are in control of our own thoughts. This is not always the case. As we know from Gerette’s book An Everyday Cult and from this podcast, we know that destructive cults use any number of techniques to get members to stay and commit themselves to what may be harmful activities. Thought Control is the most insidious. Listen in as we discuss the different techniques cult leaders use to control the thoughts of their followers. Some techniques are ...

Oct 29, 202138 minSeason 2Ep. 4

S2: INFORMATION CONTROL - Standing up to Scrutiny

Controlling information is a critical way authoritarian leaders and cult leaders control the hearts and minds of their followers. This week we discuss how they do it and how you can take some agency regarding the information you consume. Dr. Hassan suggests that we must each do independent research, that we must ask difficult questions, and really dig beyond the cult-controlled internet algorithms to challenge our own beliefs. Gerette describes her experience within CTL, whose leaders subtly con...

Oct 21, 202134 minSeason 2Ep. 3

S2: BEHAVIOR- Love is Stronger Than Mind Control

Our focus today is Behavior Control, the first methodology in the BITE model, which refers to control of Behavior, Information, Thought, and Emotion. Dr. Hassan developed BITE as a model for evaluating degrees undue influence. As functioning adults, we like to think that we are in control of our own behavior. Last week’s conversation about Influence leads us to reexamine that possibility. In this episode, we discuss how we become vulnerable to behavior control, types of behavior control, and how...

Oct 15, 202141 minSeason 2Ep. 2

S2: INFLUENCE - from mild to extreme and everything in between

Can understanding the nature of influence support people in cult recovery? Dr. Steve Hassan, former cult member, author, educator, and world authority on cults will be our honored guest throughout this season . His published works include: The Cult of Trump: A Leading Cult Expert Explains How the President Uses Mind Control, Combating Cult Mind Control: The Guide to Protection, Rescue and Recovery from Destructive Cults, Freedom of Mind: Helping Loved Ones Leave Controlling People, Cults, and Be...

Oct 09, 202142 minSeason 2Ep. 1

S1: Everyday Cults. Everyday People. Episode Six: Waking Up Again and Again

We explore what Gerette has identified in her book as the final stage of cultic involvement: Waking Up Again and Again. In this ongoing phase, one becomes fully aware of the reality of cultism. Awake, cult survivors remain ever watchful for the potential for harmful power dynamics that play out in the world or in themselves. Waking Up Again and Again is the effort required to be a conscious, conscientious, human being. In this episode on post-cult life, we discuss the human need to be part of a ...

Jul 07, 202140 minSeason 1Ep. 6

S1: Everyday Cults. Everyday People. Episode Five: Snapping

In this episode of Everyday Cults. Everyday People, we explore what Gerette identified in her book as the fourth stage of cultic involvement: Snapping—as in snapping out of it. This is the period of dawning recognition; it’s the acknowledgement that you have been indoctrinated. It demands a huge shift in consciousness. For many, it is also an awakening of conscience when you see how you or your loved ones have been harmed by the group. It may also be a realization that you have been complicit wi...

Jun 11, 202128 minSeason 1Ep. 5

S1: Everyday Cults. Everyday People. Episode Four: Asleep

Everyday Cults. Everyday People explores the five stages of cultic involvement identified by Gerette Buglion in her new memoir An Everyday Cult. In this episode, we discuss what she calls “Asleep,” the third stage of cultic involvement. Gerette estimates that she was asleep for five out of the eighteen years she was in the cult. We discuss how the cult leader lulled members into this stage and the impact it had and still has on their lives. We also talk about how to recognize such a sleeper and ...

Jun 04, 202130 minSeason 1Ep. 4

S1: Everyday Cults. Everyday People. Episode Three: Drifting

In this, our first season of Everyday Cults. Everyday People we explore the five stages of cultic involvement Gerette identifies in her new memoir An Everyday Cult . Last week, our subject was Falling—as in falling for the trickery of a cult. Today, we discuss drifting, the second stage. Drifting is a period of psychological meandering where part of one’s psyche is lulled into unconscious complicity with a doctrine. During this stage one can be easily influenced but can also hold down a job and ...

May 25, 202131 minSeason 1Ep. 3

S1: Everyday Cults. Everyday People. Episode Two: Falling

Just as no one intentionally falls in love with an abuser, no one intentionally joins a cult—we fall for them. Falling, in this case, refers to both falling in love and falling asleep. Gerette fell. Her fall lasted eighteen years. Often - but not always – cultic involvement begins with 'love-bombing' - a starry-eyed stage where someone is magnetically drawn to a group or a leader who promises the moon and it feels really good. Typically, the early stages of cultic involvement can include a lot o...

May 18, 202123 minSeason 1Ep. 2

S1: Everyday Cults. Everyday People. Episode One: Everyday Cults 101

What is a cult? How are they created? Who joins a cult? Why? How can we recognize a cult if we’re in one? In this introductory episode, cult survivor Gerette Buglion, author of An Everyday Cult, delves into her experience living in a cult for eighteen years to answer these compelling questions. Cult dynamics exist in all layers of society. They can be political, racist, religious, sexual, satanic, or educational. They can be founded on human potential, mass transformation, or mass marketing… Ini...

May 12, 202127 minSeason 1Ep. 1
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