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Moosestuck Act 4 Part 2: Back from the Future

Jun 15, 202341 minSeason 8Ep. 7
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Time to finish up Act 4! Lots and lots happens, including our first real experience with doomed timelines and Dave's time shenanigans! Also the first time Homestuck made me cry.

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Navigating the Complexities of Act 4

Jackie

Hi and welcome back to Live Laugh Stuck . This is Jackie , aka Jax , and I'm here once again with Moosey to talk about Act 4 , Part 2 . Hi , Moosey how are you doing ? I'm alright . How are you doing ? I'm sad because the end of Act 4 makes me sad . Also , i'm just feeling like I stopped Part 1 too early .

I thought it was a good place , and then I'm like , jesus Christ , there's so much .

Moosie

In the second part , though , Yeah , I had a lot of pages of notes just from all the information given .

Jackie

in the second part we read Yeah , i feel like maybe I should have stopped it . I forgot that there was a recap in the middle of it . Maybe that would have been a good stopping spot . I feel like I don't know . It's hard to tell what a good stopping spot is , but you said that you had your own summary for Act 4 .

Moosie

Oh , not so much . I was mostly just reading through the Andrew Hussie recap and the Grafename recap . I'm not sure how I would even describe everything that happens , because there's so much and different timelines and stuff .

Jackie

Yeah , it does get tricky . So where we left off before was starting a lot of things into motion . The first when you came back to Act 4 , the first thing was the future Dave . it wasn't Dave Ascend , it was something like that .

Moosie

Yeah , it was after John went through the portal and proceeded to die , but that was offscreen . So then you're just reading Dave and Rose hanging out four months later and eventually realize they're in a bad timeline and Dave goes back in time .

Jackie

Yeah , our first real situation with time shenanigans and alternate timelines . How was that ? How was your first experience with time shenanigans ?

Moosie

Well , i was confused at first , so I understood . Dave went back in time When I was reading the recap . It said that Rose got some of the memories from Dream Rose in the doomed timeline and I did not pick up on that at all . There were a lot of things that I didn't pick up on that I was reading through the recaps .

I was like , oh , that's what happened . I did not know that .

Jackie

Yeah , a lot of stuff gets shoved into it and a lot of it tends to be pretty subtle . So it was like doomed timeline Rose's hope that , whatever that if she would , she would be able to merge with alpha timeline Rose in some way .

Moosie

Then Dave doomed future . Dave went back in time and prototyped himself as Dave's kernel sprite , convinced John not to go into the seventh gate or eighth gate or something . We went to the second gate instead , where Rose is .

At Rose There was a dream Rose hanging out trying to wake up dream Dave , there was meow , meow , meow , meow , meow , meow , meow , meow , meow , which is an important plot point . Extremely , there's a bunch of different bunnies that seem like the same bunny , but maybe different timelines of bunny and the trolls doing stuff which I don't quite understand . Why .

What was their name ? I don't remember their names , why one of them wanted to have Dave go kill himself , or if they were just messing around . Where was that one ? Well , you know when . Sorry , i mean John , to go with the going in the wrong gate thing , i think that was just trolling of hot .

Jackie

Let's see if this idiot will do it . But because she has access to , like , the whole timeline and the alpha timeline , he doesn't do it .

Moosie

So it was just like a thing that wasn't going to happen , but then did actually happen , you know , yeah , and I can't help but wonder is this doomed timeline going to come back to bite them in some way , or if it's just , it's done , it's the terminating part of that one . You don't have to worry about that timeline anymore , yeah .

And then a bunch of the guardians go into a portal and go to a lab . Yeah , I don't really know why everyone's going to the lab , but everyone shows up at the lab at some point or another .

Jackie

Yeah , they got to drop off all those things for the kids to be sent back with .

Moosie

Yeah , which is another thing I'm wondering about is how much do the Guardians know about what's going on ? When did they find out what was going on ? Because the kids don't know about the medium and the insipisphere until they start the game , but do the Guardians know about it ahead of time ?

Jackie

Yeah , it's real interesting because you know , rose's mom has that lab that seems a lot of like , really similar to a lot of the lab stuff on the meteors . And then , yeah , all the Guardians seemed very well prepared to deal with what was going on in the medium . Somehow , jade's grandpa just has this huge fucking boat .

Moosie

And they are . I guess it's technically is the entire world , the insipisphere , like the entire game world versus Earth , like where they're currently in .

That's what I thought it was with , like the planets inside of it or something I think so I have a hard time remembering the greater classifications of things Like what's in what Like how did the parents get there ? Because the kids had to go through the video game .

Jackie

Well , the game is transported their houses and , besides Jade's grandpa , all the Guardians were like in the house .

Moosie

OK . So yeah , I was wondering , like how did they get there ? and they just are sailing around on a ship .

Jackie

Yeah , jade's grandpa is the most mysterious of the bunch because in the timeline Jade is in , he's dead .

Moosie

Then there's the Charipatians and there are war going on between the Black and the White Queen or kingdoms . A ring is stolen from our person . The PM , jack Moore , is killing things and trying to take over the world and destroy it or something , and that apparently launches or creates the start of the reckoning Yep , yep , yep , Jack goes and fuck shit up .

And then I also saw something called the Rift reference , and I don't know if that's the same thing as the reckoning or a different thing .

Jackie

We don't know that yet .

Moosie

OK , all right So then , yeah , for some reason , all of the parents or Guardians go to the lab . John somehow goes to the lab . I don't know how he knows to start messing around with the lab equipment , but he happens to like clone all of the Guardians And then that makes more clones by combining the Guardians , which I also didn't understand . What was .

That was what was going on when I was reading it originally . A lot of people don't their first time reading Yeah like I , reading through the recap , is like wait , those are the OK , two babies per couple of them and grow plus mom equals these two babies and Nana plus grandpa equal these two , these two babies . And then everyone gets shipped off on meteors .

Yeah , that was a whole thing . Dad gave mom a scarf back . I don't know if that was important at all . And then AR is just flying in the veil and also sees well , a temple goes in there . Why is he just flying in the veil ? I don't know .

Jackie

What are you supposed to do when you see a sweet like fucking flying boogie board ?

Moosie

I guess Incidentally flying around . And then there was some backstory with the Guardians and then this weird time capsule flower . Where did the time capsule flower come from ? Sorry , i'm just like literally scrolling through really fast to try to recap like what's going on .

Jackie

No , you're good . There's a lot of moving pieces .

Moosie

John finally gets his package . It's from Jade and a pin pal And also there's a robot bunny . Why is there a robot bunny ? Who is the pin pal ? I assume we haven't figured out who the pin pal is yet . Correct , And I think that's the most of it . Prospects moon gets severed and it falls to the sky and Jade dream Jade buys .

Dream John is awake And then the carrot the Paceans are doing stuff on earth after the meteor apocalypse , which the meteor apocalypse was also portals on sky as a defense mechanisms that the meteors were all because of the reckoning And I'm not sure about the timelines .

Jackie

Yeah , it's all pretty convoluted , timeline wise , which reminds me there is a someone did put together , homestuck but chronological , that I started reading through a while ago .

I need to go back to that because just wild seeing how because like even the last like section like after act four technically ends before act five starts , where we see a lot of that is just like jumping around in the timeline like already That's , that's a lot of it .

If I can dream Jade dying and then leave it and then like John waking up as she dies and she dies to save him and then reading the letter of how she can't wait to hang out with him always gets me .

Every time it's our first like onscreen kid death because we have like John die offscreen and presumably Jade die offscreen , yeah , but this time we see it , and I'm also confused about the different versions of the kids . Yeah , that's fair . This is when the awake and dream selves really start intermingling more , i guess .

I mean even I mean they're not even really intermingling but like because before we kind of saw , you know , jade , and then more recently Dave and Rose , like on the moons of Prospect and Durst , just kind of hanging out and not super interacting with a lot . But yeah , now we see John interacting with , like parcel mistress , with PM , and yeah , it's just .

there's just two versions . They just have two versions of themselves right now .

Moosie

So my question is since they're , let's say , like the incephalosphere is the universe or something , and the medium is in there and prospects in there , basically where they're at now is just not Earth . That is in the incephalosphere , right .

Jackie

Yeah , again , i can't remember if the incephalosphere also includes Earth in it , because the meteors do get transported to Earth .

Moosie

The description says something like the incephalosphere is like a solar system of the game session world .

Jackie

Okay , that's right .

Moosie

So it contains Skyya , prospect , durst , the Vale , the medium , and then there's the infinite void or something at the end of it , or something .

Jackie

The furthest ring , I think , is what that references .

Moosie

So then my question is if the kids awake forms are in the medium or like around there , can they interact with their dream forms which were like on the moons and stuff ?

Jackie

Theoretically , i mean , they're all in the same , all in the same place .

Moosie

I'm pretty sure I was wondering about that And also just like are the Earth kids the real kids or the dream

Unpacking Homestuck's Complex Story

kids the real kids ? I mean , what do ?

Jackie

you find as what do you define as the real kids ? I don't know , because it seems like everything is .

Moosie

It seems like the incephalosphere is kind of like the real world in a way , based on the story , and then Earth was just like the kids are trapped on Earth and they don't know anything about the rest of the world . But I also don't know how much the game kind of symbology carries through Like is it literally just a video game , something ?

Jackie

I think this gets explored later . But or explored more later . But like kind of the vibe is , is that , yeah , the incephalosphere is just literally the video game world . It's just the video game world and the real world aren't as separate as thought .

Moosie

Ok , so they're all in the matrix , Oh kind of maybe Yeah , kind of maybe .

Jackie

Yeah , yeah , i mean , that's the whole deal with the Paradox clones , right , is they had to play the game to create themselves , to send themselves to Earth , so they could play the game ? It's kind of just classic home stuck bullshit , circular shit , you know .

Moosie

Yeah , so then also , since the incephalosphere contains all the game sessions and the trolls are kids who played games , played the game before something Are there . I don't know if you can answer this , but are there any other game sessions that come into play in the story , or are we just kind of focused on the kids and the troll sessions ?

Jackie

That would be a spoiler , ok , like it makes references to other people having started right game on Earth .

Moosie

And I remember that part . I was just wondering are all the other sessions over And then these are the only two active ones , or how do they interact with each other , since apparently the reckoning on the kids session is affecting something with the trolls session ?

Jackie

Or I will say this because I think it was supposed to be clear or like not . Maybe not clear is a bad word to use , but I think that carcat did Sorry , we don't know his name yet . Cg did say it . It's it's hard because in the commentary has he refers to the trolls by name , so I forget to refer to them by the letters .

But yeah , cg , shouty McShouty did , did say that , like I . I think it said by now that the kid session was not supposed to interact with the troll session , but something happened and it did .

Moosie

OK , I completely missed that part .

Jackie

It might only been one or two lines . It becomes way more clear later on .

Moosie

OK , so then they're interacting . I'm still just like I'm just talking through it , because I'm still trying to make sense of it , even though I feel like I have a lot more information now than before I mean you do , but like it's also like more information that leads to more questions , right , right , like why ? Why is sperm a game ? Why is it ?

Is it to just get people from Earth into the medium ? Why does it ? Why is it in a game form ? Yeah , is the alchemy going to matter later ? Because I know they keep making some stuff but it just kind of seems like a side thing in a way . But we spent so much time learning about the alchemy at the beginning . And why does Rose destroy her first gate ?

It was just in the recap . It was like she just felt like it or just randomly decided to .

Jackie

As far as we know , that's what it seems like That does get touched on later .

Moosie

OK , and also , who are the ? what was it ? What were they called ? She's talking to gods of the furthest ring and they want the genetic code to be destroyed . Why is she talking ? Yeah , i mean , i know that on Durs , i know on Durs they can hear that And that's like Separate from frost but seeing dream clouds or like prophetic clouds .

But why is she listening to a bunch of random gods ?

Jackie

She's very goth and they're basically Cthulhu . Ok , i mean like that's . That's that's kind of the explanation at this point . Is they're the yeah , is there ?

Moosie

they're kind of Cthulhu , adjacent elder beings And so I guess a question for later is since that genetic code created back , why is the genetic code ? Why should it have been destroyed , or why should back not have been created , or yeah , other things like that . And Well , you just trust a voice , i don't know .

Jackie

I don't know , You know if you were a 13 year old and Eldritch , being started telling you what to do . I don't know . That's . That's kind of the explanation we have right now .

Moosie

And then something I'm still confused about from the beginning of the story was why did Dave's brother want to fight him ? That's just a Dave's bro thing , maybe just testing Dave's strength for the oncoming quests , or something .

Jackie

Yeah , like you , at this point of the story you have questions of how much the Guardians knew about the game . Mm hmm , so at this point it is theorized that they did know and they each had their own way of trying to prepare their kids for the game , right ?

Moosie

But then they couldn't talk to the kids about the game .

Jackie

Yeah , that's just one theory at this point in the in the comic .

Moosie

Yeah , and then I did observe , like just also from the recap , that John is a bit of like the odd one out , since the others have their birthday in December and he's in April . I don't know if it also counts as kind of being the odd one out , but , like his guardian was supposed to be the grandmother , the Nana , but she died , yeah , died from his meteor .

Yeah . So then like how is the ? how did much did the dad know ? versus like it , you know , to take over that role or something , because I don't know how is the family talking to each other , because they didn't seem to be talking to each other during the first act .

Jackie

Yeah , except for the little notes left around . Yeah .

Moosie

And who is the pen pal ? and why did they want to create a robot bunny ? Why wouldn't you ?

Jackie

want to create a robot bunny ? I don't know . Yeah , all good questions , i'm not sure if it was clear , but this was the robot bunny that was in the box that Jack Noir opened to kill the Queen .

Moosie

Yeah , i got that from the recap . Oh , ok , cool Yeah , and then some other stuff that was more clear . The intermission is from the trolls session when , kind of when the carapaceans went off to go do other things , I guess .

Jackie

Yeah , i think that can only be clear from the recap . I don't know how clear that could have been in the comic yet , except for at the very end of the intermission Jack Noir starts up a screen and you see car cat CG .

Moosie

I don't know how he kept it all straight , is my in their mind .

Jackie

Yeah , i don't know . I'm reading through the form spring , which I am a bit behind on for this episode , because there's just there's just a lot of information And , yeah , i don't know .

Some of it is like they had ideas that they meant to implement sooner and then other shit just got in the way , so it just ended up being like a while later That stuff that they had planned got implemented . So that might be part of it , but yeah , i don't know , because there is certainly just a lot .

Moosie

Yeah , i know it's . There's not really a good way for me to know the thought process of how it was all designed and worked out , especially this far after the fact , but I think that would be really interesting to like . I wish there was a behind the scenes documentary .

Jackie

Yeah the most we got is we have the commentary , we have the news posts and we have the form spring And it's just you have to dig through a lot of bullshit to like figure things out .

Like I sent you one form spring question that was asking how far the trolls were planned And it's like the trolls didn't come together until Hussie realized that they were making a pattern with the initials of the kids . Chum handles for DNA codes . And then that turned into 12 trolls , and then that turned into you know , zodiac stuff .

Moosie

Yeah , I wonder if Homestuck would have been as popular without the trolls . Really hard to say .

Jackie

The trolls definitely drew a lot of people .

Exploring Homestuck's Troll Society

It was a common refrain back in the day to just skip to act five . Spoiler alert Act five just about the trolls , at least act five . Act one Okay , it's not a huge spoiler because you'll find that out as soon as we click on the next page . Yeah , right , yeah , act five entirely about the trolls .

Moosie

That will be interesting Yeah .

Jackie

You'll . you're like , okay . well , I still have a lot of questions about how SBIRB works and like how all the guardians and stuff happened , But now we're going to have troll society questions , Oh good .

Moosie

We get to learn about a whole new society .

Jackie

Yeah , And this would be an interesting point , maybe . See , i just have such a hard time deciding when I want us to dig into Hive Swap and Hive Swap Friendsim because , like , that's just a whole other endeavor . Right Is playing through all the games .

Yeah , as we're about to learn about troll society , hive Swap Friendsim , especially , digs way more into it than act five does .

Moosie

When did the Hive Swap Friendsim come out , compared to everything else here ?

Jackie

Oh post cannon Okay , post act seven Yeah , so we could wait to get to it until after we're done with Homestuck .

Moosie

I guess if we're going to be learning about troll culture , it might be good to really immerse ourselves in troll culture .

Jackie

Yeah , And this would be another good like break , because you know we're stopping with the kids stuff and we're getting into the troll stuff . We're going to have a bit of a pause on the current plot happenings anyway .

Moosie

I also will note that apparently we're done with part one according to the ravename thumbnail list , because , yes , now it's part two with Purple House . I don't know if the house . Colors mean anything .

Jackie

I'm not sure the house color means anything , but , like you know , it is bigger to fit all the 12 trolls .

Moosie

Oh , i see , Okay , that's why it looks like that .

Jackie

Yup , yeah , part two is just act five , i think .

Moosie

Yeah , That's what it says Act one , act five , act one , act five , act two and then act five , And then part three is act six , act one through act six , act five , and then part four is what leads up to act six , six , six and seven .

Jackie

Yeah , stuff starts getting real dumb as far as structure goes .

Moosie

I know I've said this before on the previous episodes and stuff , but I just really wish that either if the forums were still around or just I kind of wish I was there when it was new being dropped so that as we read through this , maybe , like you know , you're kind of giving me answers for , and clarification of certain things happening .

but it would have been cool to just talk with people in the forums and be like what do you think this is ? What do you think that is ? Yeah , i missed out on the thing .

Jackie

Yeah , it's hard , especially since , like fandom discussion in like heavily influenced the comic , like I'll tell you this when it comes out because we'll get to an act five . But like one character , just like holy , like their whole , like plot is around a fandom assumption , like was affected by a fandom assumption and just completely affected that .

And it's wild how much the fandom changed a home stuck as it was , like happening , it's not changed , but like influenced .

Moosie

Yeah , But even then I just want to be like I need someone who's . I guess I could try to talk to my random . Esther chum friend and be like what page are you at now ? Let's discuss it . You didn't find any spoilers , right ? Don't tell me any spoilers . It's very hard , Because I certainly cannot look up anything homestuck at this point ?

Jackie

Absolutely not . I'm sure half the spoilers would mean absolutely nothing to you , but they would be spoilers .

Moosie

Unless , maybe I do a YouTube search for the specific year before Be like only these videos that are 13 years old .

Jackie

Right . So what do you think about the reveal that the characters were like Dave , dave and Rose and Jade and John are like ectobiologically related ?

Moosie

I was just like uh-huh , cool . Ok , so we have the Guardians And they were created in the lab . They didn't pre-exist . I don't know , but time loop thing makes it .

Jackie

Yeah , it's a circular thing of they exist , because John grabbed their genetic material to make sure they existed .

Moosie

Yeah , and then again , i didn't remember reading any sort of thought process from John while he was doing that .

Jackie

Like why did ?

Moosie

you just like , let's make some babies with combining each of these two people or four people together .

Jackie

Yeah , so I think what happens . I think the canonical thought process is things happened , button glowed . John pressed button , then after a while Kat sat on button and made things happen .

Moosie

Yeah , it just feels so incidental in a way .

Jackie

Yeah , I mean yeah , there was nothing purposeful about it happening besides the fact that it needed to happen for John to exist in that moment .

Moosie

He just kind of like Mr Magood , his way into creating himself . Basically , yes .

Jackie

Yeah .

Moosie

I want to learn more about the Guardians now . Yeah , because at first I didn't realize they would be important in any way to the story . They're just kind of there in the background . But now I'm like I hope we get to learn more about the journeys of the Guardians or something . Yeah absolutely .

Jackie

They're running around kicking ass and leaving random objects for babies to find .

Moosie

I'm curious about this rabbit . Yeah , seems like an important rabbit . I'm assuming Robo Bunny and Patrick Bunny and Soiled Bunny are all the same bunny . Yeah , just different timelines of bunny . It's like , why is the bunny important ?

Jackie

It is . It is real funny that bunny do get around .

Moosie

I'd like to see some more salamanders . Yeah , do we get to see more salamanders ?

Jackie

Yeah , we get to see more salamanders , specifically the salamanders . What about the other planets ? also have their own little guys .

Moosie

I don't . Did we see other ?

Jackie

little guys . You know what I'm not sure we did . We end up seeing this is not really a spoiler , but we do end up seeing more on Dave's . They each are supposed to have their own little guys . OK , we just explore a lot more as John in this act . I really only remember the salamanders . We might have only seen the salamanders by now .

Moosie

Well cool , Everyone gets their own little virtual pet to have in their game world .

Jackie

It's like pets , but also people who have a society but also not . Their sentience is depending on the joke at the moment . Right .

Moosie

So then do we also get to meet the trolls , planets , animals .

Jackie

We'll certainly see in the next act , ok .

Moosie

Yeah , just thinking about , i know each session is somewhat different and unique , with the same template , basically Based on what was prototyped in the Colonel's sprites before , when they were on Earth . I don't know if the animals are different or the world types are different . Like the , was it land of wind and shade ?

Jackie

Yeah , land of wind and shade , land of heat and clockwork , land of what is roses land , land of rain and something I think .

Moosie

so I have it written down somewhere in here , but maybe not right where I want it to be . So then , are those unique to the kids ? Did the 12 trolls have their own L ? O consonant , a consonant world ?

Jackie

We'll see right .

Moosie

After . It's like this . It feels like it's going to be so far from now , but I want to check out some fan games and stuff also once we're done with home . Stuck in past episodes , I've asked about other homestuck style comics and stuff And , oh yeah , I don't remember if it was Gio or Bambosh from the previous one that they suggested reading Ocean Falls .

I might look at that too , because it looks like the same kind of format . It has the little arrow thing and it asks for the character's name and there's animations and stuff . So I'll be interested in finding like a directory of ?

Jackie

Oh , yeah , that's . I can send you the link . It's mspafcom . I think I'm wrong . Oh , mspfa , i got the letters wrong . Offline for maintenance . Oh , but this is where everything is . There's one that I really like that actually centers around a character that you just just just just found , dave Sprite . There's a AU that focuses on Dave Sprite .

That just finished and I need to finish it , but it's currently offline for maintenance , not now .

Moosie

Yeah , i wonder how long it's been offline , because if it doesn't have dates on this , then it makes me nervous .

Jackie

That's fair . It's usually up , so I don't .

Moosie

Hopefully it is not down permanently .

Jackie

Yeah , let me see . Oh , no way I would have . There is no way it could be down permanently , like yeah , I mean the site is there .

Moosie

It's just that it's very minimal at the moment .

Jackie

I feel like I would have heard riots in the street by now . Yeah , oh no , it has been down for a while . Yeah , so they have a Twitter account . So we're having issues . Right now We're working on getting back online , but there is a read only mode for most adventures . You just have to know what the adventure idea is , which you can probably .

So it's not as good right now , but yeah , it has been down . Oh , that's right . The Discord server have been compromised . Maybe that has something to do with the actual server . They're having issues , but yeah , it's been since February 3rd . Dang , i hope that gets fixed soon .

Moosie

Stop compromising fan webpages . Don't do that . Go attack the bigger companies and corporations .

Jackie

For real . Yeah , it should hopefully get back online . I it's worrying that it's been down for so long , but like this has been like a pretty big constant in that fandom for a while , so I don't see it like going down permanently anytime soon , you know .

Moosie

Yeah , i guess we'll see . Yeah , maybe worse comes to worse . I can be like what are your server issues ? Can I fix it ? Yeah right .

Jackie

I think the guy who runs it mentioned something about like being like in a cyber security type career . I don't know nerds reading home stuff . Yeah , it's like you got the home stuff , cybersecurity , people , and you got the furries . There's the two ends of the spectrum . Sometimes they overlap quite frequently . They overlap quite frequently , they overlap .

Yeah , i'm so sad it's down , because it's it's . that is not something that's that's . that's really happened a lot , but that that is the home where everyone puts their , their fan adventures .

Moosie

for the most part , That's cool , though at least I mean that's another . I just want to explore more of just stuff that everybody has made around home , stuff , But I don't want to do that searching until later .

Jackie

For sure . And there's plenty of comics where they just like make their own thing Right , like it's their own version of Esper that may have like look very little like actual Esper and stuff There's yeah there's some that they use . There's some that's just completely different , like there's like a Kesha stuck .

I I'm not as into that side of it , but there's there's a lot of classics on there .

Moosie

I did watch a YouTube video once about like the AUs based on undertale and like just that rabbit hole .

Jackie

Yeah , that's fair . And since a lot of undertale people came from , homestuck , same deal .

Moosie

Yeah .

Jackie

Like we've been talking about a lot of bullshit for a bit , but that's what happens . It's just because there's so much , and again it's just like a lot of a lot of questions . We got mom and dad romantically together after 13 years of not seeing each other and only seeing each other once . Romance for the ages . We see Dave's bro fighting Jack Noir .

Moosie

And also destroyed a meteor to save Dave .

Jackie

Yeah , it's a lot of fun , a lot of flashes with a lot of heavy information , and I don't know this is the part where I'm just getting more is like oh , i can't wait till we see this one next , next time , can't wait till we see we , we go to act five and start seeing more about the trolls .

I know you're waiting for a hook Any any of theming to like really hook you , anything hook you . Yet Are you still waiting ?

Moosie

So at the moment I'm still . I'm like this is a very interesting piece of multimedia content and the world building is impressive , but I still feel like the pacing sucks .

Jackie

That's fair . Just imagine if you had it live instead of being able to sit down and consume it as you wanted . True , You know people . Are you aware of Dracula daily ? that happened last year . No , I don't know what that is That is . So someone made up a sub stack where they sent out emails , because you know Dracula is made up of letters , right ?

So they sent out the , the letters on the day that it was sent in the book .

Moosie

Wait , what are we talking about with a Dracula like the vampire , like the book , like the book Dracula , yeah .

Jackie

OK , yeah , yeah , so someone like sent out like each chapter to people , since it's , like you know , free , okay .

Moosie

So since it was like based like a correspondence looking type of book , like letters as the format type of thing , i thought I was thinking like alphabet . I was like Dracula is made up of letters , yes , no , like like it's a mail back and forth .

Jackie

Yes , okay , so it was sent the days the letters were released .

Moosie

So I want a homestack , that's just .

Jackie

it spans seven years of you only get updates whenever Hussie updated it . So some days you're getting like 30 pages of updates and then you got to wait six months so you can really experience how it was meant to . That would be funny .

Moosie

Just add that as a mod to the unofficial reader Yeah , so I'm going to add that as a mod to the official reader .

Jackie

Yeah , Sorry , you're locked out of this until August . God . I was looking at the form spring and someone asked if Hussie knew when this was going to end , because the last one problem sleuth lasted one entire year , like just one year , and so this is now past one year . So I was like , hey , do you know when this is going to end ?

And they were like , uh , i don't know . Maybe , like I've been thinking about maybe August 26 , 2010 . And I was like , no , that doesn't happen . I'm telling you it doesn't happen . Yeah .

Moosie

And at that point , how much did they have planned versus Yeah , because apparently it did balloon out of control , right ?

Jackie

Yeah , like if it act , for they thought that they were going to end because this was asked in like April or May And it's like they thought they'd have it before the end of the year . Mm , hmm , extremely funny . Yeah , yeah , cool .

Excitement for Act Five

I'm excited for act five . I was very happy again . The ending always gets me here , always gets me , but act five is going to be fun . You get introduced to so many new characters . I can talk to you about so much more . You will understand so much of the core of home stock in act five . Extremely exciting . I am looking forward to it .

Yeah , because because you , you already have heard the name , friska , mm hmm , Yeah , extremely exciting . But yeah , anyway , i guess that's it for now . We'll go ahead and wrap up here . See you guys in two weeks , whether that's with .

I've been trying to interrupt each episode with like a fan stack episode that I have recorded , so we'll see if that still ends up being a thing . Yeah , so I'll see you guys in two weeks and we'll be back then or a little bit later with act five . Yay .

Moosie

Bye , bye .

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