For twenty years, Tony Sales was Britain's biggest fraudster. From cloning credit cards and identities to emptying cash machines and being a confidence trickster, Tony knew how to make money. In this first episode of the new series of Listening to the Dead, Lynda and Cass are joined by Tony and his colleague, former Head of the Fraud Squad Andy McDonald about fraud, to discuss fraud: how investigating it has evolved, the current threats, the impact on victims and the devastating iSpoof case of 2...
Mar 18, 2024•48 min•Season 4Ep. 2
The Listening to the Dead crew return to Crime Con in London for another live recording. In this episode the team are joined by renowned forensic podiatrist Haydn Kelly to discuss his remarkable career and the first use of forensic gait analysis as expert evidence in criminal law at The Old Bailey in the trial of jewellery thief John Saunders. From Shakespeare to the Usual Suspects, a person's gait is mentioned time and again. But how much can you really tell from a person's gait? More than you ...
Jun 30, 2023•39 min•Season 4Ep. 1
In this final episode we’re discussing forensic searches: searches for bodies, searches for evidence, searches for criminals. Lynda and Cass focus on the tragic case of April Jones, the 5-year-old who went missing in Wales in 2012. The police search was one of the largest ever mounted. It lasted six months, and though an arrest was made, of Mark Bridger, April’s body was never found. In this episode we reunite two forensic search experts who worked in different capacities on this harrowing and c...
Mar 23, 2022•47 min•Season 3Ep. 7
In 1996 the IRA were planning a major bombing campaign. Their targets were the electrical substations around Greater London. Had they been successful it would have crippled the electricity supply of south-east England. Fortunately, the police launched Operation Airlines, a covert investigation to foil the campaign and gather evidence to prosecute those planning it. Forensic fibres expert Dr Ann Priston joins Lynda and Cass to discuss her memories of analysing the evidence that linked the prime s...
Mar 16, 2022•39 min•Season 3Ep. 6
The investigation into the murderer Colin Pitchfork is referenced in forensic courses around the world. Why? Because it was the first case where DNA screening was used. From the team responsible for this remarkable break-through, Lynda and Cass welcome Dr Tim Clayton. Tim discusses the cases of Colin Pitchfork, and later that of Colette Aram, and explains how they developed the DNA screening programme, its limitations and how it was refined into the crucial investigative tool it is today. Dr Tim...
Mar 09, 2022•50 min•Season 3Ep. 5
Lynda and Cass are joined by Pippa Gregory – Behavioural Investigative Advisor – and one of only three criminal profilers working in the UK today. She discusses the infamous cases of Yvonne Killian and Rachel Nickell - two investigations where criminal profiling was testing and found wanting. The fallout from these two cases led to the practice of criminal profiling being questioned and mistrusted by the police and public for some years. While Pippa Gregory was not directly involved in either ca...
Feb 23, 2022•50 min•Season 3Ep. 3
We start Season 3 with an absolute cracker as Lynda, Cass and Jon discuss the forensics behind the Great Train Robbery with some of those who were involved. In a world first, Listening to the Dead brings together the son of the robbery's mastermind, Bruce Reynolds, with a fingerprint expert who worked on the case back in 1963. Sit back and enjoy a lively discussion about planted evidence, bungling robbers, the swinging Sixties, betrayal, distrust and life on the run. Jack Deans was just starting...
Feb 16, 2022•55 min•Season 3Ep. 2
In October 1975, Peter Sutcliffe committed his first murder. Over the next five years he went on to become one of the UK’s worst serial killers. One of the main reasons the police took so long to find him was because they were sent off in the wrong direction by a series of hoax letters and a tape purporting to be from the killer. Nicknamed Weirside Jack, the perpetrator was never identified at the time. It wasn’t until 25 years later that Chris Davies – a forensic document examiner – got his han...
Feb 02, 2022•41 min•Season 3Ep. 4
Here we go then - let's kick off Season 3 of Listening to the Dead as we once more peel back the curtain of crime and reveal the forensics that cracked some of Britain's most famous cases. From the Great Train Robbery to the Yorkshire Ripper, we speak to some of those involved and hear astonishing revelations about the crimes, investigations forensics and protagonists. Join Lynda and Cass and get closer to crime! Subscribe now and don't miss the first episode on the Great Train Robbery out on 16...
Jan 20, 2022•1 min•Season 3Ep. 1
CORRECTION! 2nd Dec 2021. Apologies listeners, we previously uploaded a part-edited version of this episode in error. This one is now the real deal. We hope you enjoy it. Bonus episode recorded live at CrimeCon 2021 in London. Lynda and Cass look back at two seasons of Listening to the Dead and share more stories about the forensic experts and cases that have fascinated us most.
Dec 02, 2021•42 min•Season 2Ep. 8
**We apologise for the variable sound quality on some of the season two episodes which were recorded during the 2020 lockdown. Please don't judge us too harshly - we're back in studio in season 3!** A bumper episode to end the season! In 15% of homicide cases involving a female victim, the cause of death is unknown. Despite the huge advances in post-mortem sciences, pathologists are still faced with cases of suspicious death where the cause of death cannot be conclusively proved. In this episode...
Apr 07, 2021•1 hr•Season 2Ep. 7
**We apologise for the variable sound quality on some of the season two episodes which were recorded during the 2020 lockdown. Please don't judge us too harshly - we're back in studio in season 3!** A rarely seen method of murder today (outside of novels and state-sponsored assassination) but one of the most fascinating and challenging to investigate. A favourite of authors for generations, poisoning has appeared in some of the most famous crime novels as well as historic cases of murder and sui...
Mar 31, 2021•45 min•Season 2Ep. 6
**We apologise for the variable sound quality on some of the season two episodes which were recorded during the 2020 lockdown. Please don't judge us too harshly - we're back in studio in season 3!** In this episode the team are joined by pathologist Dr Brett Lockyer, part of the experienced team at Forensic Access ( www.forensic-access.co.uk ), as he reveals how to tell the difference between strangulation and hanging during a post mortem, and where best to look for evidence that a suicide is no...
Mar 17, 2021•34 min•Season 2Ep. 5
**We apologise for the variable sound quality on some of the season two episodes which were recorded during the 2020 lockdown. Please don't judge us too harshly - we're back in studio in season 3!** Unlike in America, there is little debate between pro-gun control and pro-gun ownership lobbies in the UK. There is general public consensus against ownership of handguns, which is enforced under strict legislation. Despite these strong sentiments, the UK has not averted gun crime by any means. In th...
Mar 10, 2021•46 min•Season 2Ep. 4
**We apologise for the variable sound quality on some of the season two episodes which were recorded during the 2020 lockdown. Please don't judge us too harshly - we're back in studio in season 3!** From terrorist attacks to war zones, from earthquakes to floods, mass disasters are some of the most difficult and harrowing cases for police and forensic teams to investigate. Whether it’s identifying body parts or tracing a bomb factory from a tiny fragment of a device, the clues are often minuscul...
Mar 03, 2021•45 min•Season 2Ep. 3
**We apologise for the variable sound quality on some of the season two episodes which were recorded during the 2020 lockdown. Please don't judge us too harshly - we're back in studio in season 3!** The Listening to the Dead team are back for a new season looking at causes of death and the investigative techniques that surround them. This episode we welcome back pathologist Dr Stuart Hamilton to discuss his experiences in investigating blunt force homicide. Three of the six causes of death in th...
Feb 24, 2021•44 min•Season 2Ep. 2
Get ready for Listening to the Dead Season 2: Cause of Death! More crimes, more forensics, more revelations. Subscribe now and don't miss episode one on 24th February 2021.
Jan 28, 2021•1 min•Season 2Ep. 1
Fibre analysis is one most important resources in forensic science. The discovery of fibres evidence is essential when determining what an attacker or killer was wearing at the time of an incident. In this bonus episode, Lynda and Cass are joined by former President of the Chartered Society of Forensic Sciences, Dr Ann Priston. A leading expert in forensic fibre analysis, Dr Priston visits Lynda at her home to discuss how exhaustive fibre analysis has helped to solve some of the most infamous an...
Apr 10, 2020•49 min•Season 1Ep. 8
Perhaps the most well-known of all the forensic sciences, portrayed in books and films for years, it's the pathologists job to establish cause of death. But what is the real-life experience of a pathologist like: can they really give time of death so quickly; what can they really tell about cause of death from a body at the scene and in the mortuary; and are they really on first name terms with detectives? This episode Lynda and Cass are joined by veteran pathologist Dr Stuart Hamilton who revea...
Apr 02, 2020•32 min•Season 1Ep. 7
One of the newest and fastest evolving forensic disciplines, this science of extracting evidence from digital devices has become a central part of police investigations. From phones to Fitbits, from laptops to smart speakers, digital devices are ubiquitous in our lives and that means that we all leave a trail – a digital footprint – that forensics can follow. Join Lynda, Cass and industry expert Dr Jan Collie as they discuss the dark web, digital profiling and Jan's experiences analysing the dig...
Mar 26, 2020•33 min•Season 1Ep. 6
In this episode, Lynda and Cass explore the science of forensic entomology – the study of how insects and bugs interact with a cadaver. At times it sounds like something out of a horror movie, but it’s a vital part of many police investigations, giving clues as to time of death and whether a body might have been moved. As Cass meets Dr Martin Hall in his lab at the Natural History Museum and gets hands-on with some maggots, Lynda recalls her first encounter with entomology at a murder scene. Fro...
Mar 19, 2020•30 min•Season 1Ep. 5
In 1986 the world of forensics changed forever when a British scientist discovered that patterns in some regions of a person’s DNA could be used to distinguish one individual from another. For a CSI like Cass Sutherland, it meant changing his whole approach to investigating a crime scene and learning how this new evidence should be interpreted. For an author like Lynda La Plante, it changed crime writing more than anything else in her long career. For bloody pattern analysis expert Dr Peter Smit...
Mar 12, 2020•33 min•Season 1Ep. 4
In this episode, Lynda and Cass turn their attention to the forensic investigation of fire with Dr Peter Mansi. A former fireman and colleague of Cass’, Peter is now an internationally renowned fire investigator who has worked on some of the most infamous cases or arson and accidental fire, including the recent tragedy at Grenfell. Peter reveals to Lynda and Cass how he goes about investigating a fire, from reconstructing rooms to study fire behaviour, to tracking an ignition source and reading ...
Mar 05, 2020•32 min•Season 1Ep. 3
Lynda and Cass kick off their new podcast series by exploring the fascinating world of forensic botany and ecology with leading expert Professor Patricia Wiltshire. The team discuss how plant regrowth can be used to track a killer’s path months after a crime was committed and the infamous Soham murders – a case that Patricia's botanical evidence helped to crack and a trail that Lynda attended. Over seven episodes, Lynda and Cass will investigate seven branches of forensics: discussing their own ...
Feb 27, 2020•32 min•Season 1Ep. 2
Introducing the new Listening to the Dead podcast with Lynda La Plante and CSI Cass Sutherland! First episode out on 27th February. Subscribe now!
Feb 03, 2020•3 min•Season 1Ep. 1